EDH/Commander General

>forgot the damn thread topic

Who is your favorite spellslinger general?

>>50797586
>Melek Proteus Staff
How on earth have I never thought of this

>>50797482
I don't actually have one.
>>50797586
Nice. It would be funnier if there is multiple images for each aspect, like tribal version, mono colored version, etc.

Has anyone ever built the Landfall Ob Nix? I really want to try it, might be hilarious

How viable is Newzuri? I got the precon ages ago but never took it apart and it looks easy a hell to break him with +1/+1 counter creatures like sage of hours.

>>50797659
I don't get it. How do the two interact?

>>50798125
>run Melek as your only creature
>activate Proteus Staff
>take a half hour to stack your deck exactly how you want it

>>50798035
Very.

>>50798035
It's literally just sage of hours. Name one other creature that would be busted with him. Everything else is just kind of neat or synergistic.

>>50798366
This.

The deck is basically 'Did you draw Sage of Hours y/n, if n, lose game'

t. Remoseful buyer

>>50798580
Can you describe your meta? It sounds miserable if your only way to win was drawing infinite turns.

>>50798601
Legacy players and several pro tour members who play EDH 'Competitively', which is helped along by the store owner giving away packs to people who win pods.

I shit you not I actually enjoy Standard more there.

>>50798033
I feel like he'd be better in Grittog Horror's 99.

Is there a way to build Prossh and not be a cunt?

I just wanna build Jund goodstuff but the rest of the commanders just don't effect the board enough for me to run in my meta.

>>50798580
Don't forget infect

:^)

>>50798761
Honestly I'm tempted to build it as an infect, if only to ensure that when I lay down the beats it actually makes a difference when I lay in with a 11/11 Wild Beastmaster or something.

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>decide to build Seizan Suicide Slugfest
>everyone drawing more cards than they thought possible and going fucking berserk with their decks

This deck is a keeper

>>50798366
>>50798580
I've never built newzuri so how is he like sage of hours?

>>50798805
Get to 5 experience counters. Play Sage of Hours. Get Infinite Turns.

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>>50798777
Ezuri infect is fucking fabulous
>tfw you turn on your inkmoth nexus and give it those lethal counters

>>50798796
List?

>>50798619
Well that sucks. Any chance of getting a lower-powered group set up? Switching stores?

>>50798366
That new +1/+1 counters = mana creature is stupid good with Newzuri and/or Forgotten Ancient.

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>>50798828
>>50798805
>>50798777
Newzuri staple

>>50798918

As far as I know there's nothing like that description in the last few blocks

Just how new is it? Nothing is coming to mind, sounds like an interesting card id like to find it

Mentalgen, I decided last night that I wanted to make a Queen marchasa deck, and while Pillowfort/taxes I want to make a part of it I'm also considering mainly deathtouching creatures generally annoying things like humility.

What would you guys consider some good tech for Queen marchesa other than her pillowfort foundation?

>>50799240
Atraxa precon

>>50797586
>Actually Help
>Pheldagriff

How to be a bad person, Volume I.

>>50799405
Although the placement of Kaalia is completely accurate, I have to say.

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I have Wheel.dek, currently Grixis but with some Green cards I could just slot in.

Would I be better off sticking with Nekusar as commander, or with changing to UBRG and Kydele and Vial Smasher (i.e., just Kydele)? Nekusar is just such a huge removal magnet, it really feels like the deck just has to work without him.

>>50799567
I dunno I kinda like those two together.

>>50798856
I have to go to sleep but I should have it ready tomorrow, don't have it up on anything but tappedout

Basically it forces everyone into drawing a bunch during either upkeep or draw step and then punishes them for it by way of massive life loss for the draw. My meta is casual so they don't have tons of answers for the stuff I use but it can catch new people off-guard when I bust it out

>>50799671
>anything but tappedout
Anything but paper*

Yeah I definitely need to sleep

Which commander has the biggest/best tits?

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>>50799713
Obviously. She's even got tit in her name.

>>50799567
I literally lost to "Not!Nekusar" an hour or so ago. Reminder to snap the neck and feel no pity as early as possible.

Kydele and vial smasher are very cool together

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>>50799713

No contest

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>>50799713

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>>50799793
The deck itself is pretty great, just setting up, like, a Waste Not and an Underworld Dreams and wheeling everybody to death is a ton of fun. But Nekusar... every single time I cast him, it feels like he lives all of one turn before someone guns his undead ass down because they can see it coming. He's everything the deck wants to do in one packaged, which is great in theory, but he effectively just does NOTHING almost every time because everybody knows that, and he's slow.

Kydele similarly lets me go crazy if I untap with her, but has a lower, easier casting cost, and would probably be considered a lesser threat, AND doesn't feel quite so bad to cast if my board isn't already set up. But I dunno if that's wishful thinking.

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Look at this mythic I got with really cheap!

>>50799966
Lucas?
Is that you?

And I agree, I almost feel like adding green to the mix was really needed. It's basically playing nekusar,but in little pieces rather than as one big slow motherfucker that could be seen from a mile away
>>50799975
are you alright?

What am I missing?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/20-12-16-landsdec/
Im still missing 13 cards. Im done for non-lands but I still need more activated abilities.

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>>50799713

>>50800002
Sorry, I'm not your friend, pal.

>>50800019

I'm not your pal, buddy.

>>50800019
>>50800045

Damn. Yeah, the kydele and vial smasher won a match, and lost one. In a 6 man game (I know) he made it to 4th,then got smashed by a master of cruelties and pinged for one

>>50800045
I'm not your buddy, guy.

tolaria west is a more interesting tutor than i thought at first glance. pulling any land out your ass for 3 mana can be game changing

>>50799776
They don't look all that impressive
>>50799830
Those are decent
>>50799938
Cleavage yes, but those aren't very large
>>50800017
Those are some big fuzzy tits.

1.5/4 so far.
Assuming usage of a random five color commander, is it possible to make a 'tits' theme deck?

>>50800263
Well yeah, you could. I'd suggest karona at the lead

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>>50800263
that anon posted the wrong pic

>>50800002
But Serra Angel is literally a mythic.

>>50800263
Titania is literally like 100 ft. tall dude, her breasts are bigger than your entire smelly bedroom, get fucking gud.

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>>50799713

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>>50800263
Obligatory.

>>50800469
>he doesn't know about Damia

>>50800484
What about her?

Hers look smaller.

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>>50799713
I give you Ravnica's own titty monster.

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>>50799713

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>>50799713

>>50800458
They're still average based on relative scale. Also, at those scales breasts like on humans just wouldn't work.

>>50800469
I can't tell if those are really large or just saggy granny titties.

>>50800530
Those are pretty rockin'. Shame she looks the type to never get them out for some reason.
>>50800544
That's a really awkward pose but I approve.
>>50800547
Hard to make out the art.
>>50800470
She's actually pretty flat, which makes sense considering she's supposed to be lithe.

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>>50800563

>>50797586
I thought Kaalia was no longer competative?

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>>50800563

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This is a cool spell

>>50800616
Yeah, she's stacked.
>>50800662
If she drinks blood, does it go to her tits?

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>>50800484
I've seen bigger tits on a Gorgon.

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>>50800752

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>>50800760
Touché.

>>50798035
I have a list, its not all exactly up to date but it can win consistently without sage of hours, although I run it just in case. Even won via commander dmg

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ezuri-claw-of-progress-or-the-game-where-you-lose/

>>50800790
Honestly, I just feel newzuri is boring and uninspired compared to the other fun commanders in U/G

Plus any deck that can win just by drawing 1 card that combos infinitely with its commander is fucking lame.

>>50797586
Why is there no Nekusar, the Mindrazer? Jhoira of the Ghitu? I feel so unrepresented.

>>50800827
I don't try to win with Sage of Hours. I like to win through old fashion killing everyone. But when I play against narset or animar you damn well know I will go for sage

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Alright. I give up. How do you build around this beauty?

>>50800894
Run double damage effects and build a strong wall/aggressive and big bodies then force your opponents to navigate combat hell.

Alt. pillow fort with chaos, then use her ability to watch all hell break loose. But that's the more cancerous option.

>I have a job where I get to act like a badass and people respect me because I look serious
>deep down I just want to watch cartoons and collect gunpla
What deck should I build lads? Bosh seems rad, particularly with some sort of ramp setup into flinging giant robots, and The Mimeoplasm is both a dinosaur and a slime monster, but I'm open to suggestions.

>>50800886
To each their own, I'll never understand newzuri. The only way I like him is infect.

>>50800894
Double damage, double strike, multiple Combat phases, combat tricks. Try to put your opponents in a tight spot where they can't "IN RESPONSE " you when you decide to swing at them for 32 commander in the air.

Force utility creatures and creature combo pieces to attack, and block with your bigger creatures. If they decide to swing utility creatures at other opponents, Make sure you've got all your "everything does double damage"enchantments out to do the most damage possible.

Also manabarbs, sunforger, etc

>>50801049
I love self mill mimeo into incredibly difficult to deal with scenarios (mimeo is a 13/13 invisible stalker, or 17/17 simic sky swallower, good luck! )

But I heard bosh is pretty cool too. If you like bosh, I'm sure you'd love brion stoutarm. That guy is baller. If you want giant robot route, go for something voltron.

Trying to brew a sort of Artificer tribal deck, with a Wizard subtheme.
Basically a think tank of smarties inventing fiddly little artifacts, with the Wizards playing the part of bureaucrats, moving people around, providing protection of necessary.

Who would make a good general for that?

>>50801097
Oh easy, azami lady of scrolls. Wizard thinktank.

Or padeem for artifacts and artificers

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>>50797586
>Isamaru for swords over Nahiri

>>50801119
Anything not mono blue?

>>50801088
Who would be the most mecha commander? I just want to slap my jitte and swords on some snazzy robot and style my way to victory. Bonus points for white, so I can use all the equipment tutors and puresteel paladin, or black, so I can use the binding blade thing and make my sword into a demon.

>>50801119
>>50801097

Muzzio is also a good call, or arcum.
I think padeem or Muzzio are your best bets. Rayne is cool too!

>>50801163
Umm.. damia? Maybe ith, high arcanist. Riku of two reflections? What you asked for earlier seems mono blue.

>>50801199
I know mono blue seems a no brainer for it, but there are a lot of Artificers that aren't blue.
Having it be multicolored makes it more flavorful, I think.

>>50801056
All great ideas, and it sounds fairly interesting to build. The one question is that if I'm running Sunforger, how many instants am I going to be using to avoid conflicting with Basandra's abilities?

>>50801035
I am in a meta with nothing but cancer. Grand Abolisher is going in regardless.

>>50801229

maybe breya then, to get all the R and W artificers, and the cool UB artifact cards from alara and such

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>>50801173
I think you'd like isamaru. Super simple, put armor and swords on the dog early and swing for the fences.


But as far as most mecha goes... you can try voltron muzzio, run plenty of equipments, swords, ways to give vigilance(so he can attack each turn AND activate his ability. Run artificers that tap for 2 colorless (only for artifacts or to activate abilities of artifacts. This works for equipping) I have a friend who calls it his mecha deck, because muzzio literally builds a mech as the game progresses,and beats people to death as a giant war machine.

I need to choose which deck I should get for christmas. Should I get Shu Yun, Nekusar, or Rosheen Meanderer? Maelstrom Wanderer is also an option.

>>50801272
Meanderer.

Don't do maelstrom wanderer, do ydris

>>50801173

akiri could be cool

>>50801253
...how could I have forgotten that Breya is an Artificer?
I'm an idiot.

Looks like I'm gonna have 2 Breya decks...

>>50801173
Kalemne. Double-strike Vigilant Swords is balls fun

>>50801324
I'm very tired of playing against a c16 4 color legendary every game

every game it's atraxa, breya, or ydris

I know it's flavor of the month, but isn't atraxa 3rd highest legendary played on edhrec?

kill Me, Pete

>>50801354
Trying playing Kynaios and Tiro

>>50801354

maybe he should do akiri + silas renn instead?

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Always kind of wanted to build pic related. Any spicy tech I should be aware of?

>>50801354
Well, do you have another suggestion for multi color Artificer tribal?

Because Breya brings a lot to the table there, even if I never cast her.

>>50801354
>I'm tired of people having fun with new commanders

Get over yourself faggot and go back to playing Narset, Zur, Melek, or Meren.

>>50799793
>>50799567
I prefer pairing VS with the other GU person that comes with her. It gives you a decent mana outlet for when you manage to make too much.

>>50801324
>>50801253

Breya actually isn't an artificer persay, creature type she is a plain old human. Mishra would be another option if you had the cash to spend to make him worth a damn

>>50801268
>Muzzio
Well, I know what memnarch is going to become. I just wish he looked more like a robot, or some edgy monster of some sort, but that's small potatoes, the deck is going to be kick ass. The dog sounds more stylish, but how does one overcome whites horrible card draw?

>>50801309
Oh, that's very stylish anon. Do you think it's strong enough to do what I need? I mean, vigilance and first strike is nice, but the partner part scares me a bit.

>>50801351
I promised myself I'd stop casting fatties. All my decks are about cheating out fatties and Kalemne is going to feed that janky habit to a self destructive extent. All my decks have nice curves, but most durdle like a motherfucker early game with no board.

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>>50797586

This Chart is missing Ob Nixilis the Fallen from the "Lands" category. Everyone always defaults to Titania or Gitrog or Omnath but I can tell you this guys makes use of landfall/crucible in such an evil, efficient way it is terrifying.

>>50801457
Wait, Breya doesn't have a class?
Isn't that weird?

>>50801417
Get over myself? I'm not caught up on myself, I just really get tired of seeing the same decks over and over. The fun of edh is in variety and different decks at the table.

I also don't play any of those, I play circu, yukora, kami, mimeoplasm self mill, endrek

>>50801402
Listen to >>50801379, i think is the best option, honestly. It's same colors ,and a lot more interesting.

>>50801378
My little brother does

>>50801464
>how does the dog overcome whites horrible draw?

It doesn't

>>50801508
Is your little brother a fag?

>>50801508
>it doesn't
So, to play white is to experience true randomness of never drawing? I guess the answer is tutor up skullclamp, which isn't really robot nor voltron.

>>50801508
>It's same colors, and a lot more interesting
...but neither of them fit into a theme of eggheads fiddling about with SCIENCE! at all.

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>>50801543
Literally, yes, he's bisexual.
I wouldn't call him a fag though, I'm very lucky to have a little brother as cool as he is. He also plays roon, daretti, and azami.

>>50801564
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. I like the partners route more than breya, but I'd still stick with mono U muzzio voltron for kicks, or the most clear choice of azami. Your call in the end.

>>50801551
Yeah, mono white suffers pretty heavily in card draw. The best there is for mono W equipment draw would be puresteel paladin, I think


And yeah, sorry all for the unpopular opinion (>>50801354), I live in WI ,and our lgs isn't the largest. It's filled to the brim on edh nights now with new c16 players all with 1 deck only. I'm looking forward to when (if) they all expand their horizons to other decks.

>>50801692
Honestly your lucky to have family that's into the game and he sounds lucky to have a family cool about his sexuality.

I used to play with my brother and sister but they're filthy casuals so they gave up on it.

>>50801692
Mentor of the Meek,Bygone Bishop, Wall of Omens flickering/cloning, Land Tax + Scroll Rack, Stonehewer Giant (while not technically drawing anything it puts stuff from your library onto the field), recruiter of the guard, Stoneforge mystic, Ranger of Eos

>>50801718
Honestly, the family really wasnt cool about it, most of them are Roman catholic and were super shitty to him for a long time, seeing sexuality as black or white compared to the 'spectrum' it's accepted as now. He got harassed and told he needs to change or he'll go to hell and all that. But nowadays he's doing better and the family is coming around. I've always been accepting of him, and always will be.

Yeah, I taught him how to play way back. He's better than me at this point I think, mostly because he's got more spike in him,where I'm mostly johnny. Im very glad I get to share this hobby with him, I'm lucky honestly. I even have my girlfriend into it! (She has Queen marchesa, kemba, oona, aurelia, dromoka)

Nothing better than subjecting your loved ones to your grindy and oppressive stax decks, because it's the funnest way to play

>>50801755
>this motherfucking champion dishing straight fiya
Perfect! Throw in a few cantrips and white just might be playable.

>>50801173
Im still waiting for a "Crew X" card to put into a 5 color deck. Power ranger deck is still plausible

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>>50801388
Maybe foil. Bounce lands back then discard the lands to protect your combo

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Is it worth a slot in Lord of Riots?

>>50801865
>no foil version of foil
0/10 shit card

>>50801932
>no foil version of foil with a homemade tinfoil sleeve

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>>50799713
Emmara also has big tits

>>50801953
Why is she so shit

>>50801927
it only hurts u during your upkeep, not your opponents


so unless you are going to run a lot of flash mechanics, no

>>50801692

for the equipment route, i like mask of memory, sword of fire and ice, mask of riddles, and skullclamp

skullclamp is so good that any mostly white equipment deck is going to need it as a consistent source of draw

pairs well with stoneforge mystic, steelshaper's gift, etc

you just need to dedicate some dorks and tokens to the strat, its a package, not just a card

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>>50801964
she was supposed to be this card

>>50801964
It's for flavor reasons. The guild picked her *because* she a shit.

>>50801987
I remember. I never did manage to get a copy of voice now that i think about it. It was one of the cards i wanted then

>>50801973
Oh, I thought it was a universal effect. Thanks for clearing it up.

>>50801280
Any advice for how to build yidris? Was thinking of making a storm build with a small voltron package.

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>>50802096
consider this

>>50802161
that has the same problem friendo

>>50802096
>>50802161
Impact Tremors/Purphoros/Warstorm Surge are more helpful

>>50802184

I think he's worried about that first cast, not how much cost reduction your getting when he's already in play

>>50800624
I admit I don't know that much about power levels, but kaalia can still piss people off, which is why she is targeted asap.

>>50801464
Just pair akiri with a partner that helps her, with the most obvious example being silas renn. Since you're edh will revolve around artifacts, it'll be easier fixing your mana through mana rocks. Throw in mana rocks, artifact lands, equips, utility artifact creatures, artifacts that help(such as sensei's divining top) artifact tokens, etc, and akiri will get big fast. She only costs 2 mana, so she'll be easy to recast. Silas will be more of a support role, mainly recovering artifacts.

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So is the strategy to just go wide with big tokens_ It sounds fun, but maybe it gets boring?

Whats your experience with Rith?

>>50801787
I didn't ask for your life story, you little bitch.

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>>50802670

I'm going to do it. I'm going to get my group to ban cyclonic rift

>cast cyclonic rift
>get it back from the game with archaeomancer
>cast it again
>recur archaeomancer

i will keep doing it until they ban the card. wish me luck

>>50802751
>from the game
from the grave, even

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>>50802751
Don't be a fag, Anon

>>50802825
im honestly just really tired of my group showing a blind eye to how retarded the card is

>pretty casual meta, have to power down my decks for it
>cast grave pact
>"wow dude anon that card is really unfun, now we cant have creatures"
>cast kokusho
>"wow dude anon that card isnt balanced at all"
>recur kokusho with rescue from the underworld
>"holy FUCK anon FUCK you"

and then 5 minutes later

>about to swing for lethal on a very much weakened player
>see he has 7 mana open and sigh and tell him to just fucking cast it already and he does
>"haha i have outplayed you :^)"

and then he wins

fuck everything

>>50797586
>the I like lands I suggested is there but no Angry Bobo or Sasaya in it
HEY

>>50802882
Still Anon that doesn't mean that you should try to get it banned. Although after hearing your story I do think you should show the fucks that playing a retarded boardwipe doesn't make them good strategists

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>>50803090
these guys asked me not to play my commander in my monoblack. like, they didn't "houseban" it but they unanimously asked me to find a different commander. my deck doesn't work without the commander so now i'm taking it apart.

i guess it's my fault for giving into these guys' demands

>>50798726
There's no way to run a goodstuff deck without being a cunt. You can however run Prosh as Jund dragon tribal.

>>50798918
Gyre sage?

>>50803346
Crystalline Crawler

>>50803365
He's also great in Atraxa with hardened scales. Also very fun to play

>>50803194
>these guys asked me not to play my commander in my monoblack. like, they didn't "houseban" it but they unanimously asked me to find a different commander.
Fuck them up senpai

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Yo, what are some cards to run with this fucker that I haven't thought about?

>>50801388
High Tide + Eternal Dominion

Thank me later

>>50797586

>literally none of my past or present decks were mentioned besides Jor Kadeen

You could have atleast had Maelstrom Wanderer without possibility storm + 97 lands

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>>50803493
Darksteel relic

>"here's a token of my gratitude"
>"t-thanks?"

>>50801987
Was she actually? Because god damn that would have been a phenomenal effect for a commander

Can someone post that screenshot of Stand Anon's decks?

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>>50803972

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>>50803982
thanks anon

>>50803493

Give the Oloro player Test of Endurance, and then hit him with Stigma Lasher.

>>50803493
What are some wincons that Zedruu runs? Giving shitty permanents to opponents is obvious, but how does she actualky win by doing that?

>>50798619
That sounds absolutely awful, anon. My condolences for losing your fun.

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>>50804017
well for one this

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>>50804017
and if you're under 20 and they have 20 or 10,000 then this.

>>50804200
That only kills one opponent though, and it doesn't even necessarily kill.

>>50804214
That seems brutal as fuck. Zedruu gains you life though, so if you're winning already you can't really play it.

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>>50803982
Those aren't my actual decks, they're my works in progress.

These are the decks I have built presently.

>>50804236
Grandeur is for sure only a 1 enemy kill and like you said even then, but usually it knocks them low enough that other people take them out. Most players tend to overlook zedruu since she's not in your face scary, and will politake people out for you. Plus you get 20 life out of it so, no complaints.

Transcendence is trickier but if you're about to die you pop that shit and not only DON'T lose but also win.

I can't count the number of times I've won without even Zedruu and just using a bazaar trader with liquimetal coating and some nasty enchantments.

>>50803943
More or less, yeah. She was originally Mythic rare, because some of the Runners were mythic and some were rare. They only had 10 total mythic slots, and Ral Zarek was already taking one of those slots, so they couldn't ALL be mythic. They toyed with making Ral 'count' as the Izzet runner, but decided that largely for Commander purposes they did want an actual Legendary Creature as the runner for each guild. Fairly late in development, they decided to just bump the Mythic ones they had down to Rare, and Emmara was one of them. Originally SHE made */* tokens (that's why the pack-token for Voice of Resurgence has art that clearly depicts the walking plant thing behind her). They basically swapped the abilities and changed a few things.

>>50804236
How about >>50804200 plus Test of Endurance or that one zendikari cat that does the same?

>>50804297
Do you have some nice examples of nasty enchantments that fuck uo their controllers? Looked on EDHrec but it only has 2 or so.

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Does anybody have a less oppressive narset list that's different to the standard "take infinite turns with narset triggers"? I want the game to be fun for my playgroup instead of making them watch me solitaire for half an hour

>>50804415
I've seen voltron lists with auras and equips and some token ones (spells that shit tokens and buffs). You could try one of those directions.

>>50804415
Two funny ways I've seen her used is to go apeshit on "things that make tokens", so you swing with her and flip over Spectral Procession, Devils' Playground, and Rise from the Tiddes

The other way was "Monk Tribal".

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How does hidetsugu interact with damage doublers?

>>50804555
One-shots people with even life totals, leaves odd life totals at 1.

>>50804555
if its not an odd number, they lose their entire life. If it is it gets them down to 1.

>>50804555
(Near) lethal? I mean, it calculates the damage based on their life. Then the damage doubler kicks in and doubles that. So if he has even life, he's dead, otherwise he's down to 1.

>>50804555

Exactly what
" >>50804590
>>50804591
>>50804592 "
Said.

More importantly, try giving him infect.

Or lifelink

>>50804716
Giving him Infect is dangerous unless you can protect yourself from his damage, because you'd have to be at 19 or lower otherwise to avoid dying yourself.

>>50804269
You should be in charge of naming my decks.

>>50804785
I appreciate the compliment! For a while I wasn't SUPER happy about the names for Ruric (The Talking Heads; I later decided to exclusively use song names and not include bands) and Gitrog (Not Easy Being Green), but I like these ones better.

>>50804269
How do you get your profile to show decks that way?

>>50804823
It's not on my profile! I made folders (one for my built decks, one for my works in progress, one for jokes, and one for retired ideas) and just put each deck into a folder. Then I just go to my "Folders" and screenshot.

Alright yall I need some good, relatively cheap monoblack Doomsday piles. I'm mostly tryna get funky with a Hellcarver Demon but normal DD piles are also ok

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/orzhovian-lifegain-cancer/
Advice? spicy tech?

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>>50804807
Best I can come up with half the time is stupid meme names.

>>50804995
You do you, man. Originally I wanted all of my decks to either have a name, or a theme song, and somehow that morphed into just naming them like Stands.

>>50804889
Cards to consider: urborg, sorin markov, blood baron of vizkopa, drana's emissary, blood artist, suture priest, rune tail, test of endurance, rhox faithmender, exsanguinate, beacon of immortality, archangel of thune, erebos, noxious gearhulk, wall of reverence, well of lost dreams, cradle of vitality, angelic accord, slaughter, hatred, toxic deluge, bloodgift drmon, necropotence, venser's journal, ivory tower, shattered angel, drogskol reaver.

Not all of these cards are equally good of course, but some of them are really necessary. You could also consider adding some general lifegain/drain weenies, their effects do add up quite considerably.

Besides that you're playing too many board wipes and too much targeted removal imo.

Most important cards I mentioned are probably rhox faithmender, beacon of immortality, exsanguinate, slaughter, necropotence, venser's journal, rune tail, drana's emmissary, erebos, toxic deluge, angelic accord, hatred and well of lost dreams. Biggest thing you're missing are cards that use your life as a resource. If you're planning to gain stupid amounts of life, you want to be able to use it for things other than taking hits if possible.

I could also list the cards I think are sub-optimal if you want.

>>50804017
She can be aura voltron. Give away the auras that already enchant her

>>50797586
I loled. And my boy Isamaru is represented :^)

>>50805152
Thanks a lot, Anon
>I could also list the cards I think are sub-optimal if you want.
please do.

Is the 5 pack of Commander 2016 worth getting. I heard its print run closing. Massdrop is doing a deal on it. What do you guys make of the new commanders?

>tuning down decks to reduce rage and remove combos
>accidentally tuned up the decks other aspects too much and went full beastmode and oneshot somebody with 36 damage
Why is green so op in edh?

>>50804415
I have her as a superfriends build, but desu, once I get 5+ walkers & a chain veil out, my turns still take a while.

>>50798796
Great art, great card that tends to make people focus on other players, good choice all around.

>>50805787
Commanders are hit or miss, but there are a lot of good staples in each deck, especially Breya and Atraxa. If the deal is good you'll get a lot in trade/deck upgrade value

>>50805787
>>50805916
I've only recently got into magic, and I got the not-blue one with saskia. Is it a decent one?

>>50805787
>>50805916
>>50805931
should mention I as of yet only play 1v1 games, don't know enough people for bigger games

>>50804415
I made a really goofy deck, non-creature creature tribal with Genjus and such, it's pretty terrible.

>>50805936
1v1 with commander is missing a lot of the point/fun. Hit up your LGS. Multiplayer allows for a lot of decks/cards to be used that'd otherwise be unplayable.

Guys, what are some FUN commanders that can win games without making other players hate you?
Bonus point if they are cheap to build as well.

>>50797586
fun chart, could be expaned.

>>50805594
First of all, trim down on your boardwipes and removal. 3-4 wipes is fine, you don't need 6-7 in this deck, same for removal.

Gold myr: it being a creature as well is actually bad in edh due to excessive board wiping. Throw it out or sub it for a mana rock.

grave titan: good card, but doesn't fit your theme as all. If you want a fatty then there are plenty of lifegain/taxing friendly options you could pick instead.

kothoped: bloodgift demon is more controlled and generally better. Kothoped + enemy token army + boardwipe = death, I've seen it happen before.

serra avatar: gets chumpblocked for days, unless you have plenty of things to make it unblockable it's pretty useless (except for swordsing it yourself).

everflowing chalice: mana acceleration make this a good card, but you lack that. Not bad or anything, but you're better of with something else.

tamiyo's journal: if it's for the tutoring, then it's inefficient. If it's for the card draw, then it's inefficient as well.

disenchant: too weak, you want bigger effects in edh. Return to dust is better.

erase: too limited, use vindicate instead.

fated retribution: to expensive for a board wipe that will generally only amount to a wrath, unless your meta is PW heavy, then it's fine i guess.

radiant purge: limited, also too much removal.

Ultimate price: way too limited, also ti much removal.

elspeth, liliana vess: don't fit your theme at all, seem like wasted slots.

heroes remembered: awful unless you have it first turn or very early after. Overcosted to fuck for hardcasting. Beacon of immortality is vastly superior.

kirtar's wrath: sucks, honestly. A wrath that gives you 2 tokens? That's equal to a wrath in edh, it's overcosted. Better of with decree of pain or toxic deluge.

read the bones: if you're only gonna use one direct card draw spell, use ambition's cost instead.

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>>50805936
>should mention I as of yet only play 1v1 games

that is not commander. I usually play in a group of 4 (including me). The most we have played with is 7 people. Games should on average take about 2 hours. My longest game I played took around 8 hours to finish. I play with my buddies that I have known since high school. The atmosphere of balls out commander is something special, that normally can't be replicated in a card shop environment which is usually rigid and cold.

Pic related is the reason why my longest game occurred. Control with no way to finish.

>>50806059
>Seven people
At that point, how do people even keep track of what others are doing/have on the board?

>>50806168
Pft, I played 10-player two-headed giant once.

>>50805948
>>50806059
Maybe he lives in France. Multiplayer commander is more like a rarity here compared to other places.

>>50806168
>how do people even keep track of what others are doing/have on the board?

that is a big problem but also very centric to how the game goes on. It usually becomes very defensive. By the end most of us are shit faced which is a win-win for all of us

>>50806168
I suppose, you need to get really good at filtering information.

>>50806396
I also mean like, you'll just have a hard as fuck time even seeing what they have the board.

>>50806054
>heroes remembered
but I like being able to shoot someone for 20 damage
>tamiyo's journal
something I'm trying out, has worked well so far
>elspeth
True. Its a relic from where the deck was more creature based
>liliana vess
the tutor is nice and have saved my bacon om occation
>kirtar's wrath
I know. I will replace it after Christmas
>grave titan
see above
>Gold myr
would burnished hart be better? if so I might have to get one
>read the bones
the scry is nice, but I probably should replace it with a top
>kothoped
things die all the time and it can work as a deterrent. Still it does get hated out fairly quick most of the time.
>erase/radiant purge/Ultimate price/disenchant
true but I like to not have to tutor for removal still I probably should opt for some higher quality stuff

I really appreciate your feedback, Anon.

>>50806438
get up and move to their position and look at their field. It literally trolls the fuck out of them. The normal reaction is "Why the fuck you coming over here, I've been nice to you this whole game you piece of shit." No one is expecting you to memorize a board state with fucking 7 people. That is why playing at your LCS is kinda lame depending on their rules for swearing and drinking. Chilling at a friends house and calling them cocksuckers, nothing better.

>>50806438
Depends on the kind of table you have. The table we usually use is perfect for 6 players. However, with 1 more player, things would get complicated.
Since we rarely have more than 6 players, we never bothered finding something better.
The biggest problem was somebody who "swung for lethal" and didn't realize that the other part of my percentile dice was slightly moved.

>>50806572
>percentile dice

You guys should really consider just using stock paper/pen and put it in the middle. That is what we do, makes things a whole lot easier. Makes it easier to keep track of commander dmg and infect dmg.

>>50806168
Once you go past 5 people I find it pretty much mandatory to do Limited Range of Influence.

>>50806659
We use these erasable board things, like boogie board only the generic walmart brand.

>>50806448
>But I like being able to shoot someone for 20 damage
Even in a deck that likes lifegain, you don't want cards that do literally nothing but gain you life. Yeah it's fun to suspend that on turn 1 and drop a Sanguine Bond to turn it into an impending laser, but without Bond it's REALLY disappointing, and it's overcosted to just cast it. There's better cards.

>something I'm trying out, has worked well so far
Black has enough draw and tutor you don't need Journal. Journal works well in other colors that need the draw/tutor, or if you've got a LOT of Investigating happening to tutor consistently. In black you could just stick a Phyrexian Arena 2 turns earlier for way better returns. It's not unplayable, but again, you have better options.

>Would burnished hart be better?
Almost certainly. The problem with mana dorks is they tend to eat the business end of a wrath spell too often. Hart is better accel in nongreen.

>>50802882
>not running vela the night clad weenies and artifact ramp
Trust me anon, they will know pain the second you point out that you have 15 nonland low curve permanents that you're just going to play the next turn for better etbs after you say everything you can to ashnods.

>>50801483
Yeah I've actually seen it done with this guy, fucking ridiculous. All he literally did was play lands, bleed opponents, swing, and save all his mana for kill spells.

>50806448
Beacon is cheaper (except for susped 10, but that sucks dick), reusable and one shots an opponent. Alternatively use congregate, in EDH it'll easily do more than heroes.

Burnished hart would most definitely be better than gold myr.

While the tutor on liliana fits in any deck, the rest of her abilities don't. Just run a tutor if you want that.

And yeah, things die all the time, but kothoped gets much more hate than bloodgift demon, and again, it can kill you. Also, deterrent to what? People killing things? Seems like that's self-defeating.

>tfw you realize your Ghave deck doesn't do much of anything

I think it's time to take it apart. Much as I like fiddling with tokens and shit, it just kinda sits around until I can generate huge mana.

>>50807004
How? If you put Ghave and any 2 random nonland permanents on board there's about a 30% chance you have an infinite combo. He combos with EVERYTHING.

Any neat ideas for a Patron of the Moon deck?

My current list is ramp into fatties and massive draw but it feels a little lacking.

>>50807004
I know that pain anon. I built a Mazirek and Lazav deck that both looked tits on paper, but durdled and did nothing until t5 or t6.

>>50806059
>control with no finishers
>terrible Brago alter
I'm disappointed. Brago has a two mana wincon, and motherfucking phyrexian ingester/duplicant/palace jailer.

Anyone have any experience with Daxos the Returned? Is he any fun?

>>50807125
I was about to ask what the two mana wincon is but you're talking about Ninth Bridge Patrol right?

He could've also won through commnader damage, Empyrial Plate or Armor in Brago since a lot of the etbs involve draw anyway.

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>>50807204
Plus a mana rock

Give me advice on my Yidris brew, /edh/. I love cascade and need something that can let me cast shit for free.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-cascade-apprentince/

>>50801973
IT FUCKING SAYS "DURING HIS OR HER UPKEEP"
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO OFF MEMORY, IT'S RIGHT THERE
still a bad card tho

>>50807331
Yeah, you didn't get what he was saying. Yes, it triggers during each player's upkeep, but it hurts the player -whose turn it is-.

It makes you lose life on your turn, not your opponent. It makes your opponent lose life on THEIR turn. It's not gonna enable Rakdos unless you're flashing shit in, because it hurts them during THEIR TURN. Not yours.

>>50807377
YOU'RE RIGHT
FUCK BRO MY BAD

>>50807296
Fireshrieker, blood mist, other double strike cards, whispersilk cloak, prowler's helm, delve cards (temporal trespass, treasure cruise and that other blue one).

Don't know why you took out treasure cruise while keeping wheel effexts, that just seems stupid.

>>50807032
Just the way of things. I know he combos with everything, but arbitrarily making Saprolings and placing counters ad nauseam gets kinda stale. Also I'm not the type to run the Boonweaver Pattern combo because I like my friends and don't want to destroy my group

>>50807204
Yup Ninth Bridge Patrol. You just set up a loop and laugh as you instantly win on your next turn, assuming you don't have anything better out. Even in a slow game, the sheer number of flickers you can get will be a serious problem.

>>50807042
Do you have Roil Elemental, Amulet of Vigor and Meloku the Clouded Mirror to go infinite?

>>50807539
Okay, I'm not seeing how that goes infinite.

>>50807539
Nykthos+Amulet of Vigor + any moonfolk is basically infinite mana with the Patron out.

>>50807596
You might need a caged sun for it to go infinite.

>>50807539
This is the list I'm working with.

Trying to keep the list under 50. Basically the only "expensive" cards I'm allowing are Nykthos and Amulet of Vigor. The Caged Sun there I'm taking out of a deck I already have.

>>50807639
Actually the part that fucked me up is I read "Patron of the Moon" as "Kami of the Crescent Moon" so I was just looking specifically at the three listed cards and saying "These don't interact at all!"

But yeah, with Patron, I get it. Pay 1 and bounce a land for an Illusion, repeat, then pay 1 to put those lands back.

It doesn't go infinite unless your lands make more than 1 mana each, though, and Roil Elemental seems wholly unnecessary.

>>50807666
This list

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/15-12-16-patron-of-the-moon/

>>50807666
>The only "expensive" cards are 5 and 7 dollars
Hoo boy.

>>50804269
>>50803982
How many fucking threads are the same jokes gonna be circulated? It's like fucking Groundhog's Day. Honestly surprised I haven't seen more pumaposting.

>>50807692
That's why I put it in quotation marks. I keep myself to a budget when I build decks.

>>50807716
Any reason your budget is so atrociously hilariously low?

>>50807712
Hey man, my decks are not jokes.

jokes are funny

>>50807688
Needs more Gush.

>>50807729
Is there a problem with low budgets?

>>50798366
Fathom mage

>>50807765
Other than intentionally kneecapping yourself? it's like saying "Guys, I want you to give me the best possible training regimen to lift big, but I refuse to change my diet and also I'll only work out once a week".

>>50807765
it's lower then low

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>>50804995
>Elesh Sandusky

>>50807889
If the card is essential to the strategy I'd consider it. Like I don't see myself running this deck without the Amulet. But magic is not my only expense. It's not even my only hobby.

This is just a change of pace with a commander I've been interested in for a while.

>copying Decimate 8 times to blow up everyone's Very Important Shit
>Final Fortune for all or nothing win
>Next turn float all my mana, play Prismatic Omen, drop Scapeshift for everything except my Valakut and Vesuva copy, get every remaining land for massive damage
>Splendid Reclamation with remaining mana for even more damage and the win

This much fun in Gruul with so few creatures should not be allowed

>>50808017
There were 8 different enchantments for you to target?

Any way to avoid making Slobad into just mono-brown goodstuff? I want to do something more combo-oriented

>>50806919
>>50806448
Oh, and I forgot glacial chasm.

While it may seem like a steep cost, in lifegain/drain decks it's fucking devastating. It also makes your opponents kill each other.

>>50808101
He said copy, so it probably was at instant speed letting him repeatedly target the same things.

>>50808101
I was facing down Uril, Gwafa Hazid pillowfort and Mono-W Anafenza. Most of them were on Uril's board but everyone wanted Gwafa's Sphere of Safety gone so we could actually attack the guy

>>50808101
The copies don't need to target different stuff for all of them to resolve so maybe two or three were aimed at the same enchantments.

>>50808188
>>50808137

Spells only need 1 legal target to resolve, they need all legal targets to cast but copies aren't cast

>building New Avacyn Weenies, Indestructible Things, and Boardwipes
>have never built a red, or white deck
>also have never built a weenies deck
Any tips? I'm very experienced with the other three colours, but I really want to branch out, and Boros is the last 2 colour deck I need to make to have a full set.

>>50808262

>never built a red or white deck
>only need Boros to have full set of 2 color decks

So what about azorius and gruul and such? I'm confused

Anyway it's important to have efficient attackers so you don't have to commit too much to the board to deal damage

>>50808200
There can be million things targeting a single object, no matter if the spells were cast or not. The spells resolve if there's at least one legal target for it, Hex for example. You need 6 different targets for it, but if one to five of them gain hexproof or similar before it resolves, it resolves and kills all legal targets

>>50808297
>So what about azorius and gruul and such? I'm confused
Well, I've never built a monocoloured red or white deck. I've built very strong mono black, blue and green decks, but normally red and white are support colours for the various other things I'm running. For example, Azorious/Izzet has all the blue card draw I could ask for, Gruul/Selesnya has all the spicy green ramp tech, and Orhozov/Rakdos have access to cheap tutors, reliable draw power, and solid removal, at the cost of being extremely janky. When I mash red and white together, I have no idea how to draw cards or ramp, which is pretty much all my other decks do. I have this giant pile of things I think are sort of good, but I have no idea how to use them effectively.

How do you recover from removal? Do you just wing it and play a tempo-style thing, hoping to hold advantage until you can combo off or lock down the board?

>>50808409

Right that too

>>50808479

Well red and white are just as reliant on draw and ramp, you just need to work harder to get it than you do in UG

RW definitely wants as much mana rocks as possible, and as much draw as you can support

>>50808017
Some fun tech with Splendid Rec. is Overlaid Terrain.

>>50808479
Mono-red EDH is the most fun you can have with your clothes on, anon. Find a general you like and build the shit out of it.

>>50808701
I have both a new Grenzo and a Heartless Hidestugu complete with damage doublers hanging out. Why is it so much fun anon?

>>50808688
Hmm, any good rocks that generate coloured mana in those colours? I have the full suite of rocks outside of the hilariously expensive ones. Do I just throw the rocks in there, or do I need to Jor Kadeem things to get the most bang for my buck.

Are there any artifacts, outside of top and skullclamp, that draw cards consistently?

>>50808701

Don't listen to this guy, mono red is shit and boring, artifacts are good but you can build artifacts in any color combo. It's a classic bait and switch.

>look at muh awesome daretti/Slobad deck, see how cool red is?
>no don't even think about using any of these sweet artifacts in a less shit color combo, that's impossible

Fuck red

>>50808768
>implying we're talking about artifacts
The most fun monoR commanders have jackshit to do with artifacts nigga (appart from ramp, obvs), have you heard of Zirilan, NuGrenzo and Zada?

>>50808262
In Boros, you really need to rely on Colorless draw. Minds Eyes, Howling Mine, font of mythos, ect. Some other draw like mentor of the meet and seers sundial can work too.

Boros is the color of combat imo. Combat tricks are your best bet. For ramp you need stuff like land tax, creatures that fetch lands to your hand, and there's a sorcery from a commander set that fetches like 3 Plains to your hand or something.

Lasth word of advice; Sunforger.

>>50808740

All the mana rocks are good except the ones that are obviously outclassed (manalith vs darksteel ingot). You don't need anything other than spells to cast to make mana rocks good, they are possibly the best cards in all of magic. You definitely don't NEED a jor kadeen to make running them worth it in a RW deck, although there's nothing wrong with jor kadeen either, he's a decent card.

>>50808768
Where did the Hidetsugu player touch you, anon

>>50808801

>zirilan, nugrenzo, and Zada

Ehhh, I mean these guys are kinda interesting

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You know a golgari themed deck with varolz as a commander seems pretty fun. How is he? Basically the mimeoplasm lite?

>>50808768
But anon norin the wary coinflip chaos is fun and mono red. :^)

>>50808875
>randomly mill things into the graveyard
>maybe you get something good
>maybe you dont
>either way, you get shit on before you can really do anything with him
>every. single. game.
He's a minus 2 anon. You need a creature out, and a creature in the yard for him to do anything, and it's rough.

>>50807157
Very. Serra's Sanctum, Cabal Coffers, and Friends can make you masturbate your turn for a good 10minutes.

>>50808875

>basically the mimeoplasm lite

That's an awfully generous interpretation of Varolz

Varolz is pretty bad but you can do some cute stuff with Phyrexian dreadnought and the like

>>50808110
>>50808110
pls help

>>50808479
>How do you recover from removal?
Boros Charm, Rootborn Defenses, Eerie Interlude, Ghostway, Faith's Reward, Legion's Initiative.

Boros should be wiping everyone's shit and not caring about it. Fun Fact: each of those Instants are 4CMC or less

>>50808822
Nothing like having an Exoskeleton in play with Hidetsugu and saying "If you fuck with me, I swear to God I'll kill us all."

>>50809138
We all know about Sunforger though.

>>50809253
The point is Boros has the best non-counterspell responses to board wipes.

>>50807915
At least someone gets it.

>>50809253
Reminds me of the Simpson's episode with the fat camp.

"I'm driving. I'll kill us."

>>50808975
>>50809023
Ah, that sucks. Only have seen him in 1v1and he seemed pretty fun, but I guess multiplayer is a completely different story.

>>50804415
Make it a group hug deck.

>>50808875
He's a much better 99 than a commander.

>>50803433
i actually dont enjoy playing my kokusho that much. a lot of time i'll just be messing around while holding onto a tutor for my wincon memes that i don't want to use because then i'll just be ashnod altaring and corpse dancing until i win

i do want to make a similar deck but without kokusho. currently trying out some dimir shenanigans

>Want to play a Grouphug deck on cockatrice, to give myself a break from Stax
>get Blue Braids
>End up dropping Vedalken Orrery on turn 4, Flash Braids at the end of Turn 5, Drop Ulamog, Cast Time Warp, Drop Caged Sun, Swing with Ull against Karn, Cast Beacon of Tomorrows, Drop Tidesprout Tyrant, and just bounce everyone's lands

I WANTED TO PLAY GROUP HUG, GOD DAMNIT

What is the best commander for a primarily wall, group hug deck?

>>50809138
>>50808819
>>50808805
Thanks, I'm going to build the same sort of Avacyn invincible boardwipes thing, but I really appreciate knowing the theory behind what I'm doing.

What do people usually tutor with sunforger? I happen to have one just hanging out. Deflecting Palm, the list of nasty combat tricks that one anon suggested, and various fogs could be sneaky. Red -X/-X effects might also be nice with things that punish people for swinging at me. I'm much more familiar with enchantments, to be honest, but this seems like it could be super dickish 1v1, which is what I mostly play.

I'm thinking of running tempo creatures, token producers, and hasty things to force people into selling out early, like some of those new werewolves, so I can fog/indestructible it, force them into a bad play, and smack them back. That way I can use the early game to fuel the avacyn/wrath wombo combo, and keep my curve nice.

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oh, i see you're running jin-gitaxias. it'd be unfortunate if we had some card that locks the command zone, you piece of shit.

>>50809969
right, if only blue didn't have Bounce or some shit like that

>>50809969
>counterspell
>bounce it
Come on anon, you're making it too easy. I personally like Exclusion Ritual in my rampy Brago deck, but that's mostly for multiplayer shenanigans, like blightsteel or sol ring, and doesn't really work on commanders.

>>50809488
>dimir
Dimir can be very powerful. Good luck.

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>>50809788
But anon, if you don't own those cards, aren't you just pretending to have pretend fun?

>>50810047
Fun is just a buzzword anyway.

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>>50810047

Don't you even try motherfucker

>>50809859
>Wild Ricochet
Never played Sunforger without it

>>50798726
Shattergang Bros, jund life brother

>>50801097
there's that new weird insect from eldritch moon thats sweet in wizards decks, if you're going tribal, just add adaptive automaton, coat of arms, door of destinies, obelisk of urd and some others. but azami is your best bet if you're going mono-colored.

>>50810079
>>50810061
>Time WARP not Time Walk
I apologize for the sass, I thought it was one of those "Look at me, I'm smart because I don't spend money on magic but why won't anyone play with me?"

>>50809859
I play a Tariel deck that's basically exactly what you're describing, but with a bunch of reanimation (especially of my own cards, since tariel doesn't hit those) and untap shenanigans.

It's a lot of fun to just fucking waltz over your opponents, killing everyone with tribal angels you drop for cheap by flashing in dictate of the twin gods post blocks.

>>50797586
>Shirei Shadowborn
I want to do this now

/tg/ I need to know: what is the crunchiest play your deck is capable of? It may or may not be the best, strongest, or most optimal play but, it certainly is the play that makes you pop a stiffy.

For me its casting High Tide -> Time Spiral to draw a fresh seven and end up netting 18+ mana.

So I've narrowed my next deck down to five commanders. Rosheen Meanderer, Shu Yun, Nekusar, Brago, and Yidris. Which one do you guys think I should go with?

>>50809969
>jin in the command zone
laffo

>>50811047
Rosheen for Hydra Stampede

>>50809820

Kami of the crescent moon is cool but you only get U so not as many walls

I think K&T gives you the most options for good walls and good group hug cards

>>50811007
Resolving Brightflame with X = 10 against a token deck

>>50801238
>how many instants am I going to be using to avoid conflicting with Basandra's abilities?
I'd say it's more about which instants. Master Warcraft is fine, something like Deflecting Palm seems like a complete nonbo

>>50811145
Any group hug cards/combos you would recommend?

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>>50811170
You forgot the best part

>>50811240
I run it in Jor but power to ya

>>50811143
How does this look?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rosheen-requires-fireballs-and-hydras/

>>50811231

I'm honestly not an expert on group hug but they usually go for a prison set up so that opponents can't use all the extra cards you're giving them. Stasis/winter orb and other stax stuff does this. But also stuff like arcane lab and rule of law

>>50811007
>Sen triplets
Casting paradox haze and copying it enough times to be able to hit every opponent, then using all their removal to fuck eachother over and playing glacial chasm at the end of my turn. It makes me feel like I'm a fucking accountant, checking their hands for "invalid" cards and doing away with them.

>Merieke Ri Berit
Getting enough untap and blink going to literally do all my tap triggers in response to eachother, gaining control of every creature (and enchantments if I have opalescence and liquimetal coating/sydri on the field). Feels even better when you destroy them all by untapping once.

>Oloro
It always feels good to get your life into the quadruple digits, then stacking aerherflux triggers to kill every creature and every player. Feels like you're piloting the death star. Also, having an aetherflux reservoir on the fiekd at 50+ life is diagusting, because you can always activate it in response, so you basically control politics until you eventually win from nobody daring to attack you.

I like esper man, leave me alone

>>50811231
make a hefty amount of space for boardwipes


everyone gonna be playing their snazzy shit earlier than normal so pack some means to reset the board once they've overextended

>>50805152
Is Blood Baron worth it? I've got one but don't think it really fits in EDH. I feel like most of the time if your opponent is bellow 10 life then they are probably going to die anyway and the baron won't proc for long enough to be useful. Is a 4/4 with lifelink and pro white/black for 5cmc worth it?

>>50812082
I run sorin and magister sphinx (Oloro) so 10 happens pretty often. But lifegain decks (especially if you add pillowfort) tend to survive pretty long, so it'll be a 10/10 for a good portion of the time. And when it's a 10/10, you get to bringing the rest of the opponents to 10 life.

With cards like exsanguinate and debt to the deathless it also gets pretty easy, not to mention general life drain shenanigans.

My experiences with it have been mostly positive.

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>>50797586
>tfw your EDHfu made it on the list for the exact same reason you like playing her

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Include this dumb combo in Mizzix as an alternate win con? Running Talrand too so Blue Man Group can buff the drakes.

>>50813143
Who is it?

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I wanna brew this guy, must include cards besides blood funnel, possibility storm and Nether void?

>>50799273
Anything to turn her assassins into pingers, and fun voting cards.

I put Death by Dragons in mine and whenever I use it, I name myself as the target.

>>50797464
>just made some edits to my Abzan deck.
>led by either Daghatar or Anafenza the Foremost depending on what I decide at the moment
>input lads?
link: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/abzan-antics/

>>50813409
Probably ink eyes or kemba

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So I showed this commander to my friend and he said that it was shit.Is he right about it?Would grimgrin be a better choice?Are they both shit?

>>50814173
hes not shit but hes not amazing either. he's just kinda there