Age of Sigmar General

first for president kroak and vp vortex

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>>50773178
Chaos Dwarfs reporting

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What are you working on /aosg/?

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Have the lesser factions thanked the Stormcast for liberating them today yet?

>>50773508
Have the Stormcast thanked their gracious lizard overlords for keeping Chaos out of Azyr?

>>50773442
holy shit anon that's really coming along nicely since last time you posted.

I just went to my local store and bought all my stuff to get started in AoS! Cost me about 200 after tax but i'm hypeeee

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No army and Seraphon battletome reporting.
What should be my 2nd battletome?

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>>50773442
I'm certain I'll be adding more grots to my moonclan hordes after the holidays so I am eagerly awaiting that

That sphinx is coming along nicely by the way, good work

>>50773532
The only thing the Seraphaggots are keeping is the bench warm.

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>>50773592
>>50773643
Thanks!

I have 3 sphinxes all WIP

I'm planning on doing the last one in blue

Bonus shot of my WIP casket of souls

>>50773752
nice anon, they will surely make some people jelly.
the green one is made to look like jade yes?
Red one is what? red marble stuff?

>>50773709
what child of the eighties or ninties can dislike dinosaurs shooting laser beams?

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>>50773781
Different shades of marble

I want these to be centerpieces that stand out from my regular skelebros

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Help me build a Slaanesh army.
I recently bought 30 daemonettes of slaanesh and 10 seekers of slaanesh (because GW made to order Diaz daemonettes).
I basically want to make something like a Chaos lord and his harem of daemonettes

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>>50770416
This as to be the biggest bait ever.
I guess pic is realated.

Order already got 5 FUCKING BATLLETOME!
Also i guess sylvaneth are TOTALLY NOT! Elves now.

Point me the new AOS models for death please ?

>More spoiled than dwarf players (they already got releases)?
ITS THE SAME FUCKING ALLEGIANCE.
Also they just created a new dwarf army were NONE of the model you ever bought are used.
That like if they fucking shit a battletome SEA ELVES that disappeared 20 years ago and everyone is like -"lol you got a release what are you complaining about


>Elves have been no where to be seen in tournaments. They have won zero, placed high in zero tournaments. (if you can find a counter example please show me).
So now i need to find results online for 20 years of gaming and 4 editions all around the world (i presume) or it will be nothing else but "a local meta thing" ?

This as to be bait. Or you are 14.

In late 8th Dark elves were consistently top8 because of all the reroll everywhere and anti magic.

Early 8th High elves AND dark elves were tabling everyone thanks to pendant great banner faggot and Lion Hordes

in 7th they were the brokenest just after demon

In 6th ALL THREE ELVES were consistently scoring high.

In 5th AKA ELF HEROHAMMER, Wood and high elves stomped everything

In 1992 in 4th edition They were already so widespread they got into the starter. Simplified the statline made elves OP (lol best movement, best shooting and best magic in the game lolol while being tied for best melee and best monster)
Introducing a card-based magic system the new formula for determining point values of units made them absolutely undercosted for what they were.

Im really sorry that THIS YEAR they aren't top3 like they were in the past 25.
Alternatively the game is also composed of 12 other former armies and now 4 great allegiance divided in more or less 100 faction (15! of which are elves)

>>50773613
no recommendations?
sadness

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Dear /aosg/ bros,
What should my next army be? I've got some Christmas money coming in, and I want to find a good use for it.

I currently have Bloodbound and Slaanesh daemons. I've been eyeing other grand alliances, but I don't know what to start first.

Order: I'm interested in Wanderers/Wood Elves and have been for some time. I never played WHFB, but I would have picked them if I had started a few years ago.

Destruction: Ironjawz. Never was a huge orc fan but these guys are cool. I'm also curious if they play nice with bonesplittaz. IIRC, ironjawz don't have they're own benefits and traits and shit in their battle tome right? Would possibly adding some bonesplittaz in the future cause me problems?

Death: Bone Zone. The appeal of this is pretty self explanatory. Also I think the morghast models are badass.

What should I get first dudes? Odds are good I'll probably start all of them eventually.

Secondary options are to wait for rumored new elf stuff to see if I like it better, wait for new Slaanesh (maybe forever), or just buy something totally different.

>>50773984
Well you already have 600 points and 2 battle line.
Pic any lord and a slaanesh deamon chariot and you have a 1K point army.

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>>50774026
>using type of currency to discredit other posters
>muh slavshit

wow it's nothing.
Can't stand opinions of others?
Better call them shitposters and insult based on place of birth, that will surely show them.
Not to forget caps-lock

>Also i guess sylvaneth are TOTALLY NOT! Elves now.
they aren't. They are treekin-ish race

dude stop being butthurt, you create more salt and shitpostage than the other dude and he probably didn't intend to argue with anyone

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>>50774054
Destruction is the only real and non edgy faction of the settings.
They also have the best monster diversity thanks to FW and can counter anything.
All the big monsters are viable and strong, Giants are cool and the global aesthetic is truly great.
I use my moonclan a lot with monstrous arcanum reinforcement. Basically all destruction army are really strong, and you have monsters spiders that looks so great.

Death well.. only have FEC fleshed out right now, and there wont be another battletome before at least 5 elves battletome judging by the last 10 AoS generals.
If you like them its cool tho.
They are great because re-spawning isn't MAGIC, its just a passive ability.
Morghast super cool and i field the ones with 5 attacks a LOT given how much more useful they are now compared to WHFB.

really depend on what you'll like to paint the most between green and white i guess.

>>50774132
Elves being strong in the span of the last 25 years isn't an opinions tho.
Sorry i nailed it on your currency tho ;^)
most shitpost do revolves around people screecaping GW's website with all prices in PLN, slav.

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>>50774054
Play Moonclan ya git!

But in all seriousness I'd say wait. Who knows, maybe in the summer there will be some new AoS releases. It'd be a shame for you to start a new army just to see something you like release and then have no money for it.

>>50773613
> No army
> but wants ideas for a second one
Here is my recommendation anon:
Make your first fucking army.

>>50774054
>Order: I'm interested in Wanderers/Wood Elves and have been for some time. I never played WHFB, but I would have picked them if I had started a few years ago.
i'm interested in Elves myself but i would wait for some type of battletome or anything that would sum up at least one race nicely.
>Destruction: Ironjawz. Never was a huge orc fan but these guys are cool. I'm also curious if they play nice with bonesplittaz. IIRC, ironjawz don't have they're own benefits and traits and shit in their battle tome right? Would possibly adding some bonesplittaz in the future cause me problems?
Ironjawz are very strong but their movement is incredibly slow. You can boost them with usage of surprise charges and stuff though. They have some mechanics for that
>Death: Bone Zone. The appeal of this is pretty self explanatory. Also I think the morghast models are badass.
I didn't think about anything from Death, at least yet.

Myself i would ask you if it would be better to get Khorne Bloodbound or just go Slaves to Darkness and make them into whatever i want?

>>50773752
Love the green, not so in love with the red marble.

>>50774097
Thing is the Lord of Slaanesh have a command ability that only targets MORTAL SLAANESH, so basically either only himself or the hellstriders of slaanesh, which im not going to buy because I really don't like how they look.
(Although is there a cool way to convert them cooler?)

>>50774026
Go start a blog or something, because that post is too fucking long.
Make your point in three to four sentences or get the fuck out

>>50774224
k bro, whatever floats your boat

+ i am not this anon >>>50770416

make of that whatever you please

>>50774301
Then get a nice keeper of secret (sorry for the 30 years old ugly overpriced sculpt in failcast)
Alternatively take the FW keeper of secret since he isn't that expensive, and you'll be able to use it in bigger game as the exalted version.
You just need that and a chariot, really.
Or you could take a mounted Slaanesh Mortal hero and some Slaanesh marked chaos knight.
(I have one FW Keeper that is in its box for now 5 years i could send you for free if i wasn't 18 330 kilometers away from my home)

>>50774288
I feel the same way.

The red was more difficult to do because my process involved mixing white and black pigment into the same base colour, but mixing white with red produced a pink colour that I didn't want. I like the way it turned out but the green one definitely looks better.

>>50774422
damn you live in the other side of the world or what?
usa to australia?

>>50774422
thanks for proposing anyways anon

>>50773752
Can you zoom on the green one ? on the pattern most specifically.
What is your goal to finish the gold ?
Green/blue + gold fits much better than red+gold.
nice work anon

>>50774422
fw exhalted keeper just got new rules too.

>>50774422
what about daemon prince of slaanesh as b0ss?

>>50774593
I indeed fled France to New Zealand..
Most of my models are still in the boat.

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>>50774635
Heres an older shot of the green warsphinx

Photos dont do it justice because of the ardcoat

>>50773178
Isn't the fluff terrible for AoS?
Like utter and complete shit.

>>50774684
> France to new Zealand
What?

>>50775066
>Isn't the fluff terrible for AoS?
>Like utter and complete shit.
more like there is barely any fluff right now.
Old world died and new was born of remnants.
Which means new lore has to be made over years.
Some deities and heroes might/comeback but changed.
Like Gorkamorka which is Gork + Mork combined

>>50775066
I unironically enjoyed the Realmgate War series
I've read over 100+ BL books

They've overtaken 2 shelves and a wardrobe

>>50773804
carnac

>>50775147
I would love a pic of that

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>tfw got a 50% discount at gw
>only want to collect tomb kings

>>50775066
Nah its alright. I havent been dissapointed but I havent been blown away yet. Im waiting for the fluff to stop establishing story and setting and get more specialised. I want to know more about the seraphon, I found the battletome a little light on what I wanted to know about.

Got a battletome of Seraphons,
which one would be nice next?
Preferably something from CHAOS allegiance

>>50775872
Read Skaven pestilens legends book in OP. Got more stuff and a hilarious backstabby skaven clan.

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I love an idea of army made of big dinosaurs and lizard riding lizards.

I don't think that I'll use anything form start collecting besides big dino, so I'm looking at:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Seraphon-Thunderbeast-Host
Is this box a good start point? I'd probably add skinks screens or saurus guards along with them. And mandatory lazer platform.

>>50776231
well for being what they are, they are strong. Engine of the Gods has insane bonuses that can fuck up the whole game for the enemy like additional turn for you.
Carnosaur is strong af.
Bastiladon with lazor melts people.
Only thing i dunno much about are ripperdactyls

I'm planning on going to a tournament which rulled all spells, artifacts, and abilities to be randomly rolled. I was planning on just bringing a generic 1k Kunnin' Rukk list, but randomly rolling has made me humor going general Destruction and swapping out my Wargogg Prophet and Weirdnob Shaman for something else.

What do you think, /tg/? I'm not going to have much use out of them if I roll shitty spells. Should I just pack an extra 20 archers? Try to squeeze in some sort of hammer unit for when the archers turn into an anvil? Take 2 squads of Big Stabbas? I've been pretty underwhelmed by boar boys in the past, but I guess I could pack 2 squads of those.

The core I'm running boils down to:
Kunnin' Rukk
Savage Big Boss
10 Savage Orks
10 Savage Orks
40 Arrow Boys

TLDR: 240 points left what do

>>50776335
>40 Arrow boys
Ok...

>>50776370
I want to see
>40 Shoota Boyz
in a few years, after GW make end times and age of emperor in 40k.

>>50776370
See a problem with that?

After reviewing my options, I'm thinking of taking an Ork Warboss on Wyvern or some Mangler Squigs just to split my enemy's focus. Only issue is finding the Wyvern Boss model.

>>50776335
buy whatever monster you can with the other 240, or some fast units like boarboyz
You have no physical hammer.

You'll stomp with a list like that anyway.

>>50776231
If you want big dino monsters then check out the Thunderquake Starhost

>>50776587
Boss is webstore exclusive. He means you're a cheesemonger for running 40 arrow boys in a kunnin rukk.

>>50774026
>being triggered
he is super triggered

So how many people uses third party minis in their army? I'm making most of my Free Guilders out of historical minis.

>>50777478
>out of historical minis
Heroic Scale i hope.
True scale looks terrible when put side by side to heroic scale.

>>50777513
True scale. I like to think of it as the other way around.

>>50777357
There is only so much fun to be had in a competitive setting. I plan to have all of it.

Trust me when I say the Arrowboys never leave the case at the FLGS. There's no joy to be had in rolling 300+ dice a game at 1k points.

>>50773984
The Lord on Daemonic Steed can work. He can always cast the command ability on himself and he trigger the loci of the Daemonettes because he has the Daemon Keyword.

It does not replace a KoS, but he works well in smaller games.

How's this for a seraphon list? I've got 1 sc box so far but I'm having trouble incorporating all the models into a decent list.

+++ Seraphon (Age of Sigmar v8) (1500pts) +++

++ Pitched Battle (2,000) (Grand Alliance: Order v26) (1500pts) ++

+ Uncategorised +

Allegiance [Seraphon]

+ Leader (220pts) +

Saurus Sunblood (120pts)

Skink Priest (100pts)

+ Leader/Behemoth (580pts) +

Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (320pts)

Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (260pts)

+ Behemoth (200pts) +

Stegadon (200pts)

+ Battleline (400pts) +

Saurus Warriors (100pts) [10 Saurus Warriors]

Saurus Warriors (100pts) [10 Saurus Warriors]

Saurus Warriors (200pts) [2x 10 Saurus Warriors]

+ Battalion (100pts) +

Battalion: Bloodclaw Starhost (100pts)

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>>50777478
my 400 zombies are kings of war zombie.
superior in gw ones in everyway and i got the lot during a wayland sale for like 120€.
400 zombies for 120€.
played them a lot in whfb 8th and i never saw someone desagreeing their superiority compared to GWs.
Most Vampire count players asked what it was the first time i bring them and they basically all ended up ordering from that same sale batch.
GWs have no saying in our tournament scene and most GW store dont even accept games anymore due to lack of tables.
so its not a problem for us.
Most of our terrain comes from Tabletop World. Also tremendously superior to GW's offering.

>>50777914
Illegal list, you don't have enough valid heroes for a Bloodclaw Starhost - it requires an Oldblood and 3 other Saurus heroes

>>50778020
>Mostly Tabletop World

Are you guys made of dosh? Lucky.

>>50778029
I have the sunblood, priest and scar-vet

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>>50773178
>>AoS
>>Aenarion the Defender

>>50778068
Skink Priest is not a Saurus hero

>>50778083
Oh damn I thought it called for 3 heroes, well I can convert a scar vet on cold one pretty easily so ill run him instead of the priest.

+++ Seraphon (Age of Sigmar v8) (1500pts) +++

++ Pitched Battle (2,000) (Grand Alliance: Order v26) (1500pts) ++

+ Uncategorised +

Allegiance [Seraphon]

+ Leader (220pts) +

Saurus Sunblood (120pts)

Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One(100pts)

+ Leader/Behemoth (580pts) +

Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (320pts)

Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (260pts)

+ Behemoth (200pts) +

Stegadon (200pts)

+ Battleline (400pts) +

Saurus Warriors (100pts) [10 Saurus Warriors]

Saurus Warriors (100pts) [10 Saurus Warriors]

Saurus Warriors (200pts) [2x 10 Saurus Warriors]

+ Battalion (100pts) +

Battalion: Bloodclaw Starhost (100pts)

>>50778150
A slow melee army cannot do well in competitive AOS.

You have almost no ability to focus fire key units (stegadon bow is good but not enough by itself) and your opponent can easily outmaneuver you, or position defensive units in your charge path and then cripple you with a riposte.

You have low rend across the board aside from the Stegadon, and it will get poked down before it gets to melee so it will usually be at Rend-2. Combined with the lack of mortal wounds you will struggle to deal with high saves.

You don't need to force a Bloodclaw Starhost, the bonuses aren't that good and you are spending too many points on Warriors. Swap the 40 warriors to 15 knights or 10 guard + 5 knights, swap one of the Carnosaurs for a Bastiladon (gives you a powerful ranged attack and an anchor to build a defensive line) then bring a Skink Priest and Skink Starseer for support.

If those are the models you have then it's not a bad list.

>>50778058
they gave some crazy deals a couple years back. just wait for christmas each time.
Also saved 480€ by buying Kings zombiew instead of GW. even if i only ever used 200 tops in huge games after so many turn of nehek.
Thats a lot of tabletop world scenery for 480 with christmas deals (basically all you will ever realistically need and more)

the other 200 fill the diorama at home and the shelf. Given the price i wont complain.

>>50778077
Vandus would rek Aenarion.

>>50778273
I only have what comes in the sc box, the carnosaur is magnetized so it can be whatever. My plan was to buy another sc box and a bastiladon to keep costs somewhat down, as two carnosaurs seem quite good. But like I mentioned before , I'm having slot of trouble building a decent list, everything costs slot of points and seemed to need quite a chunk of support

>>50778357
I was a little overwhelmed when I started, too. Just get out there and play games. Seraphon feel overcosted but they usually perform very well.

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>>50778353

>>50778273
Second all of this as excellent advice. This is literally everything wrong with my army, which I am now trying to fix.

>so much focus on competitive play and Waac
>by the time I finish my army and show up to my first game it is going to be kroak vortex bone zone mortal wound raiders every game

>>50779235

I too am worrying about that. I've only painted 5 brutes and a mega boss on foot and it's taken me like 2 months. I was going to get the start collecting box next since it seemed like a good deal but already reading "don't bother with gore grunts they are shit". This is just 40k again isn't it.... I swear the ease of collation of information provided by the internet has ruined a lot of vidya James and table top. I hope generals handbook 2 fixes point costs in things people are calling shit.

>>50779458
Gore Gruntas killed my Warden King on turn 2 today on their own so...not bad? Also wrecked a unit of Quarrellers.

Does a formation need to be of the same allegiance as the army?

Example I have a bunch of beastclaw and gutbuster stuff, could I run it all together as a destruction army and have gutbuster formation and beastclaw formations?

>>50779458
just dont play WAAC neckbeards.
Gore gruntas are nice, just not brokenly retarded like some people want them to be.

>>50779694
you can do whatever as long as you have enough Battleline and leaders.

>>50779924
Would I need battle line units for both factions? I mean to fill the formations I likely already would

>>50779945
I think you just need battleline to fill the requirements of play, not for both factions. Needing to fill full army requirements twice seems rather silly, yeah?

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hey bros, got Seraphon battletome but i feel like one more army.
What would you recommend?
Chaos allegiance preferably

>>50779989
Which army looks cool?

>>50779989
Isn't this the 3rd time you've posted shit in here? Go get an army dweeb.

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>>50775876
>>50779989
>>50773613
wat da fuk man

Anyone know what sort of round base a Warboss on a Wyvern goes on? Not even GW's site seems to have the round base size in the description.

so it turns out the only slightly nearby (still over 2 hours away) game store only plays AoS on nights I have to work late, and there are no clubs around that I could find.

Even 40k barely has players around here. I don't understand if I am honest. The city I live in has a million people, but none of them like plastic army men?

>>50780507
That's hard to believe, I live outside a city of a couple hundred thousand and we have three FLGS and sigmar is played weekly at at least two

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3 Tenebrael Shard Leader 360 points
2 units of 10 Darkshards Battleline 200
1 unit of 10 Executioners 200 points
1 Cauldron of Blood Leader Behemoth 220 points
3 units of 10 Witch Aelves 420 points
1 Exiled Blood Cult formation 80 points
total points: 1480

The highlights about this list is that it is very good at dishing mortal wounds. The three units of Witch Aelves and the Executioners will generate a mortal wound on a to wound roll of 6.
The Executioners already do 2 mortal wounds on to hit rolls of 6.

The cauldron of blood command ability grants one unit the ability to pile in and attack twice in the combat phase. The Cauldron of blood also grants a +1 to wound bonus to one unit per turn providing nice synergy with the mortal wounds on 6+ to wound.

The battleline tax is darkshards who will screen the flanks and try to be available to sit on objectives while they shoot.

The Tenebrael Shards teleport during the hero phase to any location on the board within 3 inches of any enemy model and if they kill any model can immediately make a move of 8 inches when their attacks are resolved. They aren't the best at killing high armor save targets but they can do the job of back line harassment and enemy movement blocking very well.

The general strategy is to use the teleporting assassins to lock down the enemy high value targets and pick off priority enemy characters / war machines. The Cauldron of Blood, witch elves and executioners deploy and move very aggressively up the field (probably getting turn 1 due to 5 of the units deploying as a formation). Lots of choppy choppy and mortal wounds later everything should be dead or on the run.

Looking for feedback here. last thread archived with no responses. any thoughts, suggestions, recommendations?

Pic is a mash up of everything cool about the army.

>>50779989
I thought I told your ass to FINISH THE FIRST ARMY YOU FUCK

>>50780779
Why wouldn't you just spam cauldrons for the stacking save instead of pussyfooting around with the Shards?

>>50780259
60mm

>>50776231
Buy start collecting box.
Will give you big dinosaur and all the battle line you will need.
Two not! Allosaurus better than one

>>50780799
asking the same question here.

>>50780826
That's extremely tiny. I've seen 120x90, 100mm round, and 105x70 tossed around, though.

>>50779458
Gore gruntas are out performed by brutes, but they have one advantage- speed. Use it.

>>50780799
>>50780837
because I'm not an asshole...

>>50780779
well the only problem is that you lack movement and magic.
Obviously the list try to dominate close combat. the problem is that youll only dominate what your enemy feed you.

You have no fast unit which mean 2 weakness :
A fast army could choose all the fight during all the game, and the other guy isnt dumb enough to not combocharge or throz unit into your buff bubble. He will only pick fight he win 100% then you will be behind at least 200 points.

No fast unit also mean youll loose to anything that shoot half seriously, i mean you could try to outshoot them with your 20 Shard, but a simple 5 "anything" mounted unit will ravage you shards for a fraction of the point.

i get what you are trying to do, and the strong theme, but you need to ass something that move at least 10" to deal with threats you can answer.

Your worst matchup will probably be Beastclaw. he has the speed to crush each quarter of your army one by one with half its force and you can literraly do nothing about it. It can also just turn1 shot off the table your cauldron.
All its unit will hit harder and stronger tham your but you will outnumber him.

second worst will be 40 arrowboys killing of on average 4 units of your in 2 turn with only 400 points of his own army.

slightly defavorable matchup would be any other shooty army or things that teleport like extremis.

youll probably crush every other footslogging army tho, unless they have artillery or fast unit you cannot deal with.

Cool theme tho.

>>50774812
>Photos dont do it justice
set up a couple desk lamps just out of frame to cover the model in intense light from every direction. Do that then take your pictures, promise it will make a huge difference.

Also model looks cool.

>>50780779
Well I for one think it's a cool idea anon. I would keep the shards as well. Removing he warmachine threat is better than relying on a 6+ save.

>>50780984
>No fast unit
you don't think the teleporting assassins are up to the job of keeping things pinned down until the help arrives turn 2? Just asking cause ive tried out the tenebrael shards and they are pretty good at that, being able to appear at the far edge of a unit and minimize their ability to pile in while also preventing them from charging is pretty strong...


>Cool theme tho.

thanks :) whats the point if it doesn't have a cool theme? am I right!

>>50780745
idk...

there used to be a game store nearby but they didn't have enough regular customers and had to close down early this year

rpgs seem kind of popular still, but it's like traditional gaming is just kind of going away

the major nearby tg conventions get less and less people each year. One of the smaller ones decided not to run this year due to lack of interest.

>>50780779
>another slow moving pure melee list

When will you people learn

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So I had this idea for a Slayer model. In my theoretical story, he decided to go looking for ways to die in the Realm of Metal
Unfortunately for him the Realm of Metal likes to transform things, so he actually got turned into a living metal dorf...which is awesome, until he realises he can't die now.

Plan on putting a bunch of dirt and rust/verdigris and dings in his metal skin and shit to make him old and beaten to hell. Cool idea?

>>50781021
thanks!

>>50781159
That's pretty cool. I can dig it.

Or you could say he went after some tzeentch sorcerer, and it cursed him at its death and gave him the properties of metal.

Now he seeks a heat-death.

>>50781153
>slow moving
but my teleporting assassins... you really don't think they can fill that gap. I deliberately included them there to fill that roll of extreme mobility harass and movement disruption...

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>>50781153
>there are two factions I like
>one has NO shooting at all
>the other has just one unit that shoots... kind of? 9" range...
>both not that fast
I wish there could be less speed and shooting. If I wanted 12" + 3d6" movement with rerollable 2+ saves, and rerollable 2+/2+ 24" range shooting I would play that other GW game

>>50781200
That gives me the mental image of a half-melting Slayer just going "FINALLY!" I like it.

I also was contemplating an army of Chaos Dwarfs or Fyreslayers and make em look like they're on fire internally, black/grey on outside. Sorta Balrog-y. That probably won't be for a while though.

>>50781215
You mean your 5+ save 5 wound heroes with a bad melee profile? Huge waste of 360 points.

>>50781240
>You mean your 5+ save 5 wound heroes with a bad melee profile? Huge waste of 360 points.

but are they? they don't need to kill whole units alone they just need to be in the right place to prevent enemy movement and charges for a turn or two at most. or they can kill create a back line threat to characters/warmachines that will force the opponent to either split their offense between dealing with the threats on two fronts or conceding the backfield and loseing those warmachines/characters...

seems really good in my head.

>>50781217
name of the factions ?

>>50781321
Throwing your points into the enemy army for no reason is not a good strategy.

Unless you're playing against total morons, your opponent will deploy a screen around their units vulnerable to the shard. After your shards are dead they'll spend two turns shooting your slow ass army in the middle of the field before you get a chance to engage and you'll probably lose more to Battleshock.

It seems good in your head but try playing against somebody with a brain in theirs.

>>50781321
i think you should try 10 games without changing the list.
Report back how the 3 assassins do.
that's the only thing we can say about the list. if you make it work then good for you, if it doesnt, you'll just tell use what went wrong.
How soon can you try the list ?

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>>50781400
>How soon can you try the list ?

I have everything but the witch elves already painted and or assembled. Sadly I just got this (pic related) and will be painting it for a while so it may be a couple months before I could give a good report.

Honestly though, I think ill give it a try (the list) I think it has promise and a power level of 8/10 instead of being a super hardcore thing that wouldn't be fun for any one I played against.

Ill let yall know how it pans out! thanks for the insights!

>>50781371
>It seems good in your head but try playing against somebody with a brain in theirs.

you're a dick

>>50781364
>khorne bloodbound
>pseudo ranged slow moving infantry hero, doesn't count
>otherwise they are slow melee faction

>slaves to darkness
>9" javelins on marauder horsemen
>aside from chariots and knights, they are a slow melee faction

>muh daemons
>muh beastmen
I don't like daemons or beastmen

>>50781535
welcome to the internet

>>50781641
slaves arent a slow army like the bloodbound

they have chariots, knights, wizards, and large flying monsters

bloodbound just move forward and hope they dont get shot down before they get to melee

>>50781708
if you aren't using chariots, knights, and manticores you shouldn't bother right?

>>50781772
Marauders, chaos warriors, and chosen are good units. A list that only contains these units is bad.

The Khorne Bloodbound have lots of good units but their faction is bad because it only has a single niche that is easily countered.

Most of their key units are too slow so you either run a list full of Skullcrushers or your Skullcrushers have to hang back and wait for the rest of your army to catch up. They have no shooting or magic so they can't focus fire key units or clear screens before a charge, which means your opponent completely dictates your charges.

Their melee is average at best, which doesn't make any sense given that all their weaknesses should lead them to having an exceptional combat phase.

So I was contemplating a themed dwarf list along the lines of 'everything appears after set up' to negate some of the dwarfs being slow moving melee armies everyone keeps talking about.

1 Warden King 120 points
1 Josef Bugman 100 points
2 units of 10 Miners 240 points
1 unit of 20 Quarrellers 240 points
1 unit of 10 Quarrellers 120 points

I'd say run Grombrindal for the last 180 but he technically has no points value, we've just run him as 'whatever you agree on' at my FLGS. Runelord and Grimm Burloksson?

>>50781909
I'm an idiot and forgot about Battleline. I guess...switch the small unit of quarrellers to Warriors, and add Grimm and another 10 Warriors? And scrap Runelord?

anyone have a link to that website that lets you create your own warscrolls?

>>50781887
>who cares about lore, narrative, or fun on casual games? waac or gtfo

>>50782218
He was just giving out some helpful advice you gigantic cockgobbler.

>>50782218
Then why are you complaining here >>50781217 when answering about a matched play question ?
Everything is good in casual games, thats the freaking point.

I dont even understand what you are trying to do here.

>>50782218
>post list, specifically say "looking for feedback", "thoughts, suggestions reccomendations"
>get criticism
>WOWWWWWW FUCK OFF WAAC FAGGOT

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Just a small starting force to keep be entertained until Death armies get better books
-- Call of the Grave (Death) --
>Leader
Arkhan - 340
Banshee - 80

>Battleline
20x Skeletons - 160
20x Skeletons - 160

>Other
2x Archai - 240
-980 points

>>50782508
I posted this >>50780779

I am not this guy >>50782218

just letting you know...

>>50783054
the Banshee serves no purpose here, remove her.

Use the 100 reinforcement points to invoc more usefull things or spawn the banshee turn 2-3 behind enemy lines.

Morghast are really strong in 1000 points, and Arkhan should carry the list easily

>>50783224.
I'll probably keep her off the table and summon her in then.
Thanks

Start Collecting Pestilens fun/good?

>>50783597
both.
the only reason Skaven isnt more played is that nobody wants to paint 300 rats

>>50783626
stormfiends tho

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Hey AosG.
Are those guys legit ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsJkbpmhXo

The """""""""""""""""Strategy"""""""""""""""" of the death player was to suicide charge its mourngul into literraly the only guy that could kill him.
The stormcats kinda stayed there rolling dice for the bow and won.

wtf is this game ?
Tell me you dont play like that AOSG.

I am on the fence between AoS and 40k. I watched a lot of battle reports in the past few days, but the AoS ones I've seen are just two morons pushing fuckpacks into one another and rolling melee from thereon out.

Is there more depth to AoS than these games would belie, or is it just really that simplistic? Not saying 40k is a masterwork of complexity, but at least there are some more options it seems that come up (like the Psyker phase)

>>50783899
AoS can be very fun if you actaully have a brain, since there's no way to really bubblewrap ICs/Heroes, not to mention the random turn order.
MWG and Frontline do good AoS reports (and even the GW first AoS "tourney" was actaully good too)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeP1lG7RHkQ

All i can say is that 40k will have more technicality to it, but that's because AoS was meant to get newbies into wargaming - Wait to 8th ed 40k for more

So from what I've read about the powerful synergy between spellcasters and the frost phoenix I put this together.
Anointed on Frostspyre phoenix 260
Prince on Griffon
Teclis 200
Alarielle 200
Loremaster 100
3x Spearelves 240
20 phoenix guard 400
3x Bolt throwers 360
Also, I couldn't find any rules for it, but is it possibly to improve the Phoenix save to beyond a 2+?

>>50783965
Are Or(c/k)s bad in AoS?

>>50784355
Savage are fun (and can be so OP)
Orruks themselves are ok

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/new-qu-re/pantheon-ebook.html

>In the age before Chaos, during a time of myth, the pantheon of gods ruled at Sigmar’s hand. As dark times return to the Mortal Realms, Sigmar beseeches the goddess Alarielle to heed a tale of those better years, one he hopes will restore not only her faith but the faith of all noble creatures. Heed then the saga of the mage Bayla who seeks the Realms' End, a mythic place believed to hold a great secret. Beseeching the aid of wise Teclis and dread Nagash, Bayla's desire for knowledge and the fulfilment of his quest blinds him to the danger in his midst, one that could imperil his very soul.

This sounds interesting.

Ironjawz list for 2k

Maw krusha
X2 war chanters
IRONFIST
X30 ard boys full command
X5 brutes with hacka, grab and basher
Above two more times totaling 15 brutes
3 gruntas

Mob em with buffed out ard boy blob, brutes mob things that need to be killed, maw krusha removes problems, gruntas exist.

Works fairly well for turn 2 charges.

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In the last seconds of the last GW's video, there are some fast pics passing. I screenshot them.

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>>50785079

>>50785094
>>50785079

i have been waiting for this, my body is ready

>>50785079
>>50785094
So the staff prediction was spot on, and that mechanical arm probably belonged to the Mechanicum guy at the end

The only thing we don't know for certain now is the robot thing they teased first and the recent robe thing

For any anons how want a decent explanation of AoS being played
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-R3Si5DtHA

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>Pale skin, like my Daemonettes?
>Dark skin, like my Mortals?

I can't decide. He looks like both and neither.

>>50785481
paint his mutations like your daemons
paint his human features like your mortals

>>50783054
Decided to expand this since i'm in bed with the flu
-- Call of the Grave (Death) --
>Leader
Arkhan - 340
Wraith - 60
Wight King - 120
Wight King w/Axe - 120

>Battleline
20x Skeletons - 160
20x Skeletons - 160
20x Skeletons - 160

>Other
2x Archai - 240
2x Archai - 240
5x Hexwraiths - 160
6x Spirit Hosts - 240
--2000 points

Thoughts?

>>50785094
>tzaangors on disks
Eggcellent.

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With the new 'leaks' I've made a quick composite to match them, so far 2 of the rumour engines pics can now be directly sourced to forthcoming miniatures.

>>50785079
Guy with big scroll, reckon he's just the unit champion or a hero character?
>>50785094
Anyone else notice the Tzaangor on the disc with the bow in the background left?

>>50785656
We know there is a Dark Eldar game, i guess the cloth comes from there.

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>>50785656
Also, this could easily be one of the disks the Tzaangor are riding on.

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>>50785094
Also I noticed these two guys here, look like Tzaangor wizards or something.

>>50785787
I don't thing they'd use 2 different pics to tease one miniature. But it's probably for a Tzeentch model of some kind.

>>50785767
Dark Eldar game? Source on that?

>>50785857
see >>50784102

>>50785397
Key is most definitely from the new AdMech guy: >>50785656

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>>50785094
>>50785079
>old school concept
>no sign of sigmarines
almost smells of home

Those behind the first line of tzaangors (who carry great weapons, mind), look like disc cavalry! And one has what looks like a yumi bow...

Warhammer TV will be previewing the Disciples of Tzeentch battletome tomorrow, so y'all know.

>>50786757
They're not called Tzeentch Arcanites anymore?

>>50786757
>There will be no heavily armoured Tzeentchian Warriors

Fugg.

Can someone explain points to me pls
eg
>clanrats are min 10 max 40 unit size 60 points
does that mean
>60 points per 10 models
or
>60 for any number of models between 10 and 40

I'm thinking of trying AoS due to having a bunch of Slaaneshi daemons (40 Daemonettes, 10 Seekers, 2 KoS, and an enslaved Bloodthirster).

Also, are there copies of the Grand Alliance books online? What do they contain? $40 CDN is pretty reasonable for a GW book but I want to know what they have before I consider picking one up.

>>50787080
60 per 10.

>>50787107
whut, that defeats the whole part of them being a slave army, or have all the points been timesed by 2

>>50787106
Grand Alliance books just have warscrolls which you can get for free, and some battalions (but none for Slaanesh daemons).

The only essential book for AoS is the General's Handbook. Which can be found in the OP if you don't want to buy it.

>>50787106
>I'm thinking of trying AoS due to having a bunch of Slaaneshi daemons
Good. Praise Slaanesh!
>are there copies of the Grand Alliance books online?
no
>What do they contain?
For Slaanesh? Nothing. Download the pdf or use the app and you'll be alright. Do not use the compendium though. Daemonettes have some slightly different rules. You can use the Daemon Cohort from the Compendium though.
>$40 CDN is pretty reasonable for a GW book but I want to know what they have before I consider picking one up.
It's nice if you like to have your rules printed. Otherwise, just use the app or print the few pdf you need.

So a few friends have convinced me to give this game a shot, so planning to grab a start collecting box, maybe something else if its needed to play a few small games to see how I feel about it. Planning to go with Stormcast Eternals.

Unlike most people, I actually quite like the look of the Sigmarines, I think they look cool, fuck you. My question is, how do they play? I don't actually have any idea how AoS is played so I'm not quite sure I would know the difference between playstyles simply by looking at stats. Are they tanky beasticks? Jacks of all trade? OP bullshit?

>>50787148

Thanks. I was wondering about that.

>>50787154

Where are the warscrolls located? On the GW website I can only find the compendiums unless I'm looking in the wrong place. Do I have to get the app for them?

>>50787163
>unlike most people
You mean most 4channers? Like 80% of the people and community I know/watch (normiebook, forums, local store) all fucking have stormcast eternals as their main or pocket army.

They're powerful in that they have decent stats and synergy out of the boxes usually. They're tanky all-rounders. Once you go up against specialized stuff or range cheese you'll get cracked.

>>50787080
A unit can be 10,20,30, or 40 clan rats. It costs 60 points per 10.

So say you have 30 clan rats, that'd cost 180 points, and you can make 3 units of 10, one unit of 30 or one unit of 10 and one unit of 20.

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>>50787206
On each model's store page, to the right of the description, there should be a link to download a pdf of the unit's rules.

>>50787214
>You mean most 4channers
eeeeh, kinda. The only people I actually know who play hate the look of them, so my only other exposure to the community is the cancer that is the /tg/ general community and other forums.

Follow up question, are their benefits in the game to sticking within your subfaction? Cuz the Stormcast Eternals and the Extremis Chamber are different subfactions within the order faction (allegiance, whatever) right? So would I benefit from just bringing stormcast eternals as a force, or is there no penalty for mixing and matching?

>>50787252

I never noticed that before. Probably because I rarely open up the actual model's page when browsing. Thanks.

>>50787232
thanks

Also if I wanted to also play fantasy should I just put them on the square bases as CCW have range now, and where do you measure from, the end of the blade on the handle grip

>>50785791
>tzaangor bowman
oh shitttt

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>>50785079
>>50785094
>bird cultists
I could get behind this

>>50785079
>Moonman sending his Anti-Nigger eagle out to kill some filthy monkeys.

>ungor kit is same as old one
>unit profile has mauls and spears
>no bows
So magic is my only ranged option?

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>>50787680
My body is ready!

>>50785791
They look like Tzaangor bestigors.

It's fucking surreal seeing Beastmen become a big sub-faction.

>>50787713
>ungor raiders
>cygor

>>50787816
so a monster that throws stone and magic are my ranged options, sure makes up for tthe lost ambush rules

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>>50787857

>>50787801
I'm thinking with the Tzaangor on disc at the front, he looks alot different from the guys in back, that maybe there will be a three model set like the Exalted sorcerors for the thousand sons?

>>50787857
Are you blind or just illiterate?

>>50787955
>https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ungors

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10 man Grave Guard or 5 Hexwraiths?

>>50788013
Do you already have a solid battle line to hold their melee or no? If you already have clogging melee like skeles or a strong battle line go hex. If you need a more powerful line/flank wrapper I'd go grave

>>50788087
My proposed list is here >>50785549

>>50788102
Hmmm hard to say. Skeletons while good at clogging have a chance of getting torn through if enemy have artillery or
something that can do fat wounds. Also you already have 5 hex. I'd say if you're against someone without strong battle lines take hex. If it's going to turn into a grindmill, go crypt.

>>50787964
From what I can see we have the basic Tzaangor's, the Arcanites and then we have the new units that are.

a) bigger Tzaangors riding Disks
b) some kind of Bray-sorceror
c) The same bigger Tzaangor's on the ground with bows

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>>50788134
Nah i was thinking about swapping the HWraiths for the Guard, hence why i asked.
I could also swap them for 2 Banshees i suppose

>Just waiting on a proper Vampire or Skeleton Battletome

>>50784661
Has anyone uploaded this to the MEGA yet?

>Tzeentch daemon-kin was sort of real between Magnus and this
>Sisters in plastic

Meme-magic is real and a powerful force

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>>50781153
>Implying im not behind 120+ Skeletons, with Tomb King on Tomb Sphinx, Wight King, Tomb Herald, and a Necromancer.
Step up behind them
Not so fast, Sempai

Reminder that if you aren't playing to win you have no business playing pitched battles.

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Can stormcast asmor be broken or os it indestructible an autoregenerating like necrons ?
I have some liberators and wanted to make a kind of mad max/eternal war kind of theme.

>>50788430
I think part of the reforging process is to make them all shiny and chrome, anon. Not sure. I remember one of the new Tzeentch pictures that surfaced is a Sigmarine getting his armour crushed.

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>>50788430
Some art shows it being scratched by skaven claws.

But this nigga thinks he can survive a minotaur charge

It's as indestructible as the plot requires. i don't think it regens until they die and return to sigmar in a flash of lightning.

>>50788430
There was that one storm cast who had his helmet stolen and went through some lengths to get it back.

My headcanon tells me their armor is special in some way and they don't just replace it, but that each chamber might look different. Maybe one chamber prefers a worn look to their armor as it shows that they don't shy away from battle? They "wear" their battles with pride, or something like that

>>50788486
>>50788430
Stormcast are not metal men, however, their Arms and Armour is forged from bits of Malus, the old world, and is incredibly strong, probably the strongest metal bar Chaos-bound or Urgold shit.

The value of it is sentimental, Stormcast wear helms fashioned to look like Sigmar, and each one carries Armour and weapons forged from Sigmar's most Cherished object.

It's a finite resource.

>>50785549
You have arhan you should remove hexwraith and spirit host amd jus summon them where you want.
Alternatively you can add a mourngul instead of them. you have a nice battleline already. The spirit host are only used as bttleline for nightgaunt have have an army with smaller footprint, not as a thing to kill.
What im trying to say is that they fill the same roles as your Spooky Skellingtons.
Hexwraith are really strong if you dont make too much mistake with them

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>>50788545
Thanks for the feedback anon
Appreciate it

Are High Elves or their Sigmar equivalent a playable full faction yet?

>>50788571
Its is very much stronger than they were in WhFB thats gor sure. especially the Dragon Lords and the sea helms.
They dont have the book yet but all their rules are available

>>50788595
Did GW discontinue their models? Or are they not under the Age of Sigmar tab?

>>50788571
They also introduced a battallion that let's you field the Spire of Dawn contents as one nice army. Seems like a good starting point and it has 'everything'

anyone know when spire of dawn is getting restocked

>>50785079
>>50785094
Arcaanites confirmified!

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>>50785094
Do they have an Orgy ability?

>>50788622
All the models are there. Please use the free phone app for all rules and direct link to miniatures. Look under the order grand alliance

>>50784355
ORC/KS WHAT ARE THOSE
WE ORRUKS NOW

So what are the realmgate wars? Is it a war that is currently going on or something that happened in the past?

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>>50788801
For orgies in mask, you must look in another direction.
Best Tzeentch can do is some book club.

>>50788933
Still ongoing

>>50788801
They fucking better now!

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>>50773442
I am working on my bestigors. Still a long way to go before they are finished.

>>50788801
Requesting a kind anon to make an OC version of this with Frank and Dennis being Tzeentch followers and the man at the door being a Stormcast

Guys I bought some ironjawz ardboyz. Do the drummer and standard bearer get attacks or what?

>>50788571
Well, Swifthawk Agents are probably the most complete elven faction as of a few days ago. Two heroes, three battle-line units and a selection of nice support, plus a way to include archmages and swordmasters without breaking allegiance.

>>50788960
I thought the battle for the All-gates marked the end of the Realmgate Wars?

>>50789786
Yes, musicians and standard bearers can fight normally.

>>50789793
Considering the Realms of Light and Shadows are still effectively unknown to Sigmar i doubt it'll be over
Let alone Slaanesh

>>50789786
Yes they are much more determined than their brother and basically smash their drumstick into peoples head.
And the standard guy just scythe his way through people.

>>50788571
the key to playing elves in age of sigmar at this time is to cherry pick the best units to synergize from the full range of original three flavors (high, dark, wood).

The new "factions" that you see the elves broken into are a trap. If you try to make an army exclusively of any of them it will be a sad horrible mess without a chance of being any good.

>>50789366
Soon they will be poop smithing and shiting their way across the mortal realms before dying for their betters

So I'm putting together my first gorebeast chariot. Should I paint the riders seperately like with knights? then glue them on or put them on and paint it all at the same time since they are standing?

>>50789939
Well, Swifthawk Agents seem fairly solid now that they have some selection. I think an army from that selection would fare reasonably well.
Agreed on the rest, though.

>>50789997
Paint it seperatly. It saves you a lot of effort overall.

>>50790032
does glue do fine adhesing to painted stuff? Literally my first set of models. Should I paint the gorebeast seperate too I assume? then just connect everything via chain and shit

Grot's battletome when?

>>50790010
>Well, Swifthawk Agents seem fairly solid now that they have some selection. I think an army from that selection would fare reasonably well.Agreed on the rest, though.

look at that army objectively though...

the griffon rider is not that hot. costs a lot of points for a meh stat line and paper defense. the pile in gimic on it is nice if you only use him to harass and pick off weak targets but in a strait fight he will lose every time to most leader behemoths.

The archmage is just bad. his spell is pretty useless and he too costs a lot of points.

The seaguard are (even at 120 points) very limp noodle with poor armor saves and very lackluster damage.

The cavalry are fast and that's about all they have going. They cant win a strait fight with anything and their shooting will be an annoyance at best to any opponent.

The whole thing is at best a 4/10 for overall strength.

It is fluffy so for fluffy casual games it looks great! if that's all you want from it, and there is nothing wrong with that, then that force is for you :)

>>50790131
Underrated post.
Where the fuck are my sky pirate grots

How do factions work in this game? You have the four alliences, so are those the factions made up of subfactions? Or are those simply categorizations of the factions? Is there any reason I would bring only Fyreslayers or only Stormcast Eternals, or is it simply a narrative/fluff reasons you wouldn't mix and match all the tiny factions together?

>>50790292
>How do factions work in this game? You have the four alliences, so are those the factions made up of subfactions? Or are those simply categorizations of the factions? Is there any reason I would bring only Fyreslayers or only Stormcast Eternals, or is it simply a narrative/fluff reasons you wouldn't mix and match all the tiny factions together?

in matched play (the kind where you use points) you are limited to picking your army from one of the grand alliance factions (order, death, destruction, chaos).

Those 4 are further broken into smaller sub factions that may or may not provide additional benefits if you select your army entirely from within one of them.

>>50790266
Sky pirate grots it's your wishlisting. They will never be released. Like Terracotta Army of Cathay.

>>50773752
Holy shit, how do you paint that jade?

>>50790073
>does glue do fine adhesing to painted stuff? Literally my first set of models. Should I paint the gorebeast seperate too I assume? then just connect everything via chain and shit


I learned the hard way that fully assembling models before painting them is a huge mistake almost every time.

The problem you run into is that you'll be fighting your brushes and lamps to try and reach and see under, between, inside, the back portion of the rear of everything and it'll drive you nuts and take forever and never be as good as you want it to be.

Even single models are this way too and its usually better to leave off the arms until the torso is painted.

As for gluing it all together after its painted that's never a problem. Worst case you have to add a little paint here or there to clean up the joints.

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>>50790266
Buy this.

>>50780831
Aren't cavalry and saurus warriors crap?

>>50790159
I'm not sure I'd agree on your assessment.
- As you said, Reavers are fast and can pour out a lot of shots. For a unit that will probably never be engaged that's nice enough.
- The Archmage's Elemental Shield affects quite a lot of models and allows to reinforce your Spireguard anchor quite well. He really costs a lot, though.
- While the High Warden is probably only useful as an assassin and harasser, the Skywarden is buff central (especially with Reckless) and can support both an aggressive strike force or a defensive line.
Even Shadow Warriors and Spire Guard are flexible and competent enough to be relied upon.

>>50790495
lol nope. half the army would dream of having those

How many Dryads is too many? I kinda want to do a Harvestboon Wargrove.

>>50790556
In several threads I've seen that I shouldn't even touch them, and go with either guard or skinks.

I'm confused now

Are regular ogres a waste in a gutbuster army? Should you just take leadbelchers for battle line and bring ironguts?

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>>50785079
>>50785094
>bird worshippers army
i came.
release when

>>50790159
They will indeed be my fluffy zipping army.

>>50790573
maybe 300 is more than you need...
below that you can probably continue buying SC!

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Can we talk about how well designed the FW chaos dorfs are?
>big hats relegated to the important dorfs only
>coiled beards still on everyone
>awesome rank and file face masks for every other non important dorf

>>50791225
>shit rules for every dwarf

>>50789980
What do you have against Beastmen Anon?

>>50791044

Well, I'm getting the big one for Christmas most likely, a SC! Box is an easy addition, and I have a bunch from my old WE battalions.

Is running tons of Dryads viable, though? Forest folk seems pretty decent.

Lads. Can somebody explain to me the 'Arrer Boyz are OP meme? I'm way behind. Also

>Exhalted Bloodthirster of Khorne
>20 Wounds
>10 Bravery
>3+
>Can do 38 Damage per turn potentially
>Can do Mortal Wounds to units trying to charge it and potentially fucking their charge

Okay...

>Can be made 2+ due to no debuff against magic, good or bad

Wat.

Even the Dread Saurian can't beat that. You'd need to get it to a 2+ and then hope all your attacks hit. If you don't kill it in one go, the Bloodthirster will kill the Dread Saurian in next phase due to 3+/2+ -2 D3.

Not that you'd let it be charged. You'd just fly the Bloodthirster away and spam Lash on it.

Pantheon has been uploaded to the Mega

Who was the dwarf? Grombrindal?

>>50790710
Saurus Warriors with HW are OK. They're not the best, but they're OK. They're out-damaged and are weaker save than Empire Swordsmen and Dryads and shit. Though they 'make up' for this with ignoring -1 Rend and having 10 Bravery. They're still easily dealt with, though, since lots of armies can spam Mortal Wounds forever and lots of armies have models which heal (Nurgle, Skaven and so on) every turn.

Knights are shit, really, don't bother. Their 'Lances' are 1", despite every other Lance in game being 2". The bonus for using Lances relies on D6 luck and that's really shit. Their hand weapons aren't much better. They're not fast enough. They went from one of the best armoured cavalry in WHFB to one of the worst. If you want cavalry, stick with Terradons or Ripperdactyls. Even though the latter are nerfed really hard by Rule of 1, they're still good artillery and range user killers.

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>>50791310
But not too expensive points-wise. They're a horde army!

>>50791503
>buying them in anything but the war host bundle

>>50791403
According to 1d4chan:

"A pretty easy strategy is going 30 archers, tossing them in a kunnin rukk and just let them shoot with the big bosses' command ability and bellowing tyrant on them."

Basically 3 shots each, kunnin rukk lets them shoot in the hero phase, Boss gives extra attacks on hits of 6+. I think there's a destruction allegiance ability that gives everyone +1 to hit too.

tl;dr too much dakka

>>50791594
Huh. So... If they have the allegiance ability, they're 3+/4+? Not too bad. But seeing as you can make shit like Saurus Guard 2+ it's not that good.

I guess the reason is cause they're cheap and you can spam them.

>>50791691
Also, Lizardmen are still broken in a number of ways, so don't treat them as baseline.

>>50791503
Explain? I'm a newbie and don't understand what your talking about

>>50791922
>chaos dwarves have fairly underwhelming rules
>they cost comperatively few points
Thus, field them as a horde to make the most of them. Oh, wait, they're from Forgeworld and thus cost an arm and a leg, so have fun getting a large enough number of them.

That wasn't not that difficult, now was it?

Just bought me a box of judicators. What weapons should I have on them?

>>50792680
Bows are a solid all-round choice, given the stormcast the ability to reach across the table which they can otherwise lack. Crossbows really need you to set up your army to make best use of them, so if you're not sure, they're probably not the right choice.

Put the special bow on the prime whichever option you go for, however.

>>50792680
If you deploy in a deepstrike batallion, crossbows + shockbolt bow on the prime. Otherwise, bows + shockbolt bow on the prime.

>>50773178
Newfag here with a lore question: So in the end times Chaos destroyed the classic Warhammer fantasy world and left behind a void. Franz-Sigmar was one of the few survivors from the classic Warhammer Universe. He was camping out in his heavenly realm and has just decided to send out his Stormcast Eternals to conquer the seven realms and liberate them from chaos. What are the seven realms? Isn't it all void? Why bother liberating other people?

>>50793246
That's wrong on pretty much all points. Well done.

>>50781909
Drop grim and bring 30 quarrelers so you can have the double shots longer because at 20 one death nerfs you hard

>>50784235
No but you can start to ignore rend but a roll of 1 always fails

>>50791594
stop stop at 30 and not have 40 arrowboys ?

>>50791691
35 per turn on average for 400 points is bad.

lol. show me your 1k point list that beat that

>>50791379
yeha its very nice. dont forget a couple of the big kurnouth tree and yyou are good to go

>>50773984
Damn I wish I bought the good Daemonettes when they were up. Who knows when or if they'll ever go up again.

Does Khazalid still exist in AoS or is that gone with the Old World? Or do we just not know yet, given the scarcity of dwarf fluff?

>>50794265
there is way too much money to be done. they will come back.

>>50794266
Think it might still be about. Some of the runes hammered into the fyreslayers look an awful lot like khazalid anyway.

>>50794266
We know very little of the grugni worshipping duardin of this setting. At least for now.

But it is used by the fyreslayers as the runes they hammer into things. It could be seen as an ancient language by duardin, barely understood by most, but widely accepted to have magical properties.

>>50787262
There are benefits with taking all of one sub faction in that they usually synergize well with each other. There are some allegiance rules for taking all of one subfaction but I think only a few armies have that right now.
I'm pretty new to this too so take what I say with I grain of salt

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>>50790131
I want my moonclan to have a new edge, damn it!

>>50778357
Do you mean the chair is magnetized? Like, not the saurus on the chair, but removing the chair from the carnosaur's back?

How did you do it? I'm new too but haven't figured that one out yet.

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are these related (pic)...

was there anything else that actually pointed to a release of "steam punk dwarves"?

Could it all have just be wishful thinking?


for those who don't know these are the new release teasers for sisters and the rumor engine picture from a while back off the GW community website.

>>50795503
In the bottom right, that symbol is obviously dwarf in nature. GW just really likes that type of gold.

More likely the teaser is the bloodbowl steamroller that is confirmed to be a part of the dwarfs team.

>>50791439
It was him, he's confirmed to exist in AoS and has a playable model.

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Help. How do I get rid of this glue line? Filing hasn't been successful with my razor since his back is textures

>>50796438
Use liquid green stuff or thinned milliput to fill the gap, then smooth

>>50796438
wow hmmm are you sure you removed all mold lines with a knife or lime ? because I made 6 for my WHFB army and it fitted perfectly.

>>50796438
most of the pieces arent even trimmed... no wonder you end up with gap this big.

>>50786957
Maybe it will contain more than one faction. Apparently they said it is a little different to regular battletomes.

>>50790416
Followed this guide here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGAywWej_vQ

>>50791403
Its not OP, only dumb players lose to it.

>>50794194
Seraphon Eternal Starhost + Bastiladon. 2+ rerollable save.
Settra + Chariots + Necropolis Knights = turn 1 charge
Stormfiend deep strike wipes your unit on the first turn
Stormcast deep strike wipes your unit on the first turn
Nurgle battalion that gives you -2 to hit in shooting phase
Chaos command trait that reduces your hit roll by 1 on the first turn. (Second turn you get charged and die)
Tzeentch Slaves to Darkness giving chaos warriors a 2+ save that rerolls 1
Phoenixes with 0+ save and 4+ ignore
Zombies

So many counters. Arrowboys are just a shitty meme. You could get so many better warscrolls for 400 points.

>>50794266
It exists.

>The air rings with cannon fire and booming Khazalid hymns as the Dispossessed go to war.

>>50795503
Anyone else thinking about converting the new sisters into female stormcast?

>>50798001
>Implying they'll be anywhere near big enough to be Stormcast.

>>50798001
If anything, st celestine may pass as a regular prosecutor, and she would be a small one. The other 2 would be way too small.

>>50795452
No the saurus himself is magnetized so I can change him between an old blood and a scar vet. Tbh if probably just have a thick magnet stick from the carnosaurs back and into the saddle, since there is a bit of a gap anyway but I'm pretty bad at magnetization

>>50794214

That's good to know. I like doing tree things.

>>50796744
t. player that play on completly flat boring table with no terrain and fail to even formulate an argument and just spit vague things just because.

i dont see how teleporting will get you anywhere near the 40 arrowboys
>inb4 hurrr durrrr after tje orruk player saw i have a teleporting army he placed them alone unprotected and the other 600 point of the army too far.

>Le eternity starhost meme lell
Please. The tax is 520 point and for that you get a whopping 16 models split in 3 group of 5 + a warden.
And thats not taking into account the 300 point Bastilladon.
because, you know, the arrowboys will shoot to kill on average 12 Saurus guard a turn (yes the 3+ save is taken into account) not on the bastilladon to specifically loose their shot.

you should try not playing against autist.

>>50798079
>Implying anybody will be dumb enough to refuse a game if they use the same bases as stormcast

>>50798634
I am legit terrified people will refuse games because I put my chaos marauders on 32mm bases

>>50798680
if they do you just need another flgs friend.

that's serious level autism

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>>50787983
Yeah?

>>50798605
I always generate terrain as per the 4 page rules

You asked for lists that beat the arrowboy memeshit. I provided you many.

>3+ save
You mean 2+ rerollable, right? You need 36 unsaved wounds to kill 1 guard on average.

If you are using 600 points to screen your 400 points of arrows then you are already losing the game

You should try playing against competent opponents. If you're winning with arrowboys then your opponent sucks

>>50798118
Kitbash some prosecutor wings onto them, they'll look fine

Celestine-Prime will be glorious

Just bought some Stormfiends; should I make them all with the Projectors? Seem to be the best option.

>>50799250
Magnetize them

They're the Crisis Suits of AOS

>>50799250
All options are good, except those damn wind launcher shits.

>>50799276
Windlaunchers won't do as much damage as the other two shooting options BUT they don't need line of sight and they have a slightly longer range. That extra range can be the difference between getting shots off and not shooting at all, and Rend-2 D3 damage is quite powerful (even if 4+/4+ is hot garbage).

Windlaunchers let you hit enemies that try to hide behind walls, or behind screens of other units. They are situationally useful.

Ratling Cannons are great at killing low armor save screens.
Warpfire Projectors are great at killing high armor targets and focus firing behemoths.
Windlaunchers are great for sniping wizards or other low wound heroes.

>>50799397
>They are situationally useful.
Which is why you take mortar teams if you need them, keep your stormfiends useful.

>>50799246
No you don't understand, the stormcast eternal models are huge. These are going to be tiny. They are going to look like fucking halflings alongside prosecutors, and the the wings would look comically large on them.

I know you are wanting femcasts really bad, but really only st celestine would be anywhere near close enough to fit in with even just regular prosecutors.

Let alone a celestant-prime, which would be really weird looking.

>>50799233
they dont have 2+ rerrollable.

>>50799809
>No you don't understand, the stormcast eternal models are huge.
I Have 80+ stormcast.
>These are going to be tiny.
So like any woman next to Scharzenegger , Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson or The Rock ? I dont see the problem.

>>50800073
>I dont see the problem.

that's because there isn't one. Do it man, it'll look awesome.

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What do you guys think of my saurus knight conversion/kitbash? First attempt at one so I know the green stuff work is sloppy and I'm not skilled enough to sculpt scales, but I think they came out decent enough

Also made a skink priest with boys from the troglodon

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>>50800876
2/3

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>>50800876
3/3 everyone is going to get a better base when I get around to it, as of right now the little guys feet look awkward but I think with some rocks and other bits he will be looking good

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