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First for Black Knight

$750 Ancient Gold Lantern here, unless I am missing something it seems like the best pledge deal with the earliest delivery times.

(wont have to wait years). Is this correct?

Pledge helpers for people.

Pledge Comparator & Shipping Calculator:
https://stdobby.github.io/kingdomdeath/

Miniature Count with bonus statistics:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ujOUYfjTFp3jOx7T4f3wl-KmxBh0hST0Spa2Q3fy2k/edit#gid=0

>>50733196


So far the witches have mostly been pinup-eriffic but that doesn't mean they won't get rules in the future. For the moment, Knights are the gameplay creatures (and tend to be Big Bads of their tier) and the witch stuff is mostly for pin up fun.

>>50733277
Check the two links I just posted, and keep in mind that there are at least two and almost certainly more new expansions yet to be revealed. Ancient Gold Lantern is certainly a great deal, especially with the early shipping time frame, but there's a lot of good deals in other pledges too.

>>50733301
The witch and her deciples are the only overtly-sexy humanoids in canon right now.

Knight is a title, there are many different and different kinds of Knight.

The only witch is the Flower Witch, and she has a handful of "human" followers.

Gambler's Chest Contents (so far)
>Advanced Rulebook
>1 Survivor (TK Fang) [1xMiniature]
>1 Survivor (Aya) [1xMiniature, +2 Promo cards, +1 Art card]
>1 Survivor (JoJo Adam) [1xMiniature, +1 Fighting Art, +1 Philosophy]
>1 Survivor (Last Man Standing) [1xMiniature, +1 Mighty Axe Rare Gear ]
>1 Survivor (Scout of Death) [1xMiniature, +Pages to Advanced Rulebook, + "A bunch of cards"]
>1 Survivor (Murderer) [1xMiniature, +1 Philosophy, +1 Settlement Event, +1 Secret Fighting Art, +2 Gear Cards]
>1 Survivor (Bow Master) [1xMiniature, +1 Rare Gear Card]
>1 Survivor (Deadrock Fighter) [1xMiniature, +1 Fighting Art]
>1 Survivor (Romantic Adventurer) [1xMiniature, +1 Philosophy, +1 Rare Gear Card]
>1 Survivor (Screaming Hoarder) [1xMiniature, +1 Advanced Disorder, +1 Hunt Event]
>1 Survivor (Darkeye) [1xMiniature, +1 Advanced Fighting Art]
>1 Survivor (Cockroach Queen) [1xMiniature, +1 Advanced Disorder, +1 Philosophy]
>1 Survivor (Beast Hunter) [1xMiniature, 1xArmour Set Card, +1 Rare Gear Card]
>1 Survivor (Zanbato) [1xMiniature, +1 Fighting Art, +1 Philosophy]
>1 Survivor (Bone Eater) [1xMiniature, +1 Philosophy, +1 Secret Fighting Art, +1 Settlement Event, +(?) New Bone Gear]
>1 Survivor (Bright Knives) [1xMiniature, +1 Fighting Art, +1 Gear Card]
>1 Survivor (Papa + Junior) [1xMiniature, +1 Fighting Art, +1 Gear Card]
>1 Survivor (Cursed Spear) ]1xMiniature, +1 Philosophy, +5 Rare Gear Cards]
=
Advanced Rulebook (Includes Philosophy of Death)
>17xMiniatures
2xPromo Gear Cards
9xRare Gear Cards
4xGear Cards
1xArt Card
2xSecret Fighting Art
5xFighting Arts
1xAdvanced Fighting Art
7xPhilosophy Cards
2xSettlement Event
2xAdvanced Disorders
1xHunt Event
1xArmour Set Card
+"New Bone Gear"
+"A Bunch of Cards" for Scouts of Death.

>to be continued

I hope they do a pinup of The Hand and make her absolutely smug as fuck. Complete smug saturation.

>>50733439
Nah. MALE Pinup of the Hand which is basically just shirtless Vegeta.

>>50733439
The only pinup for the Hand would be one of himself.

Otherwise, you're thinking of a Pinup Handmaiden.

>>50733439
I want the hand pinup to be the hand just posing.

Here's some fucking crazy math for you guys:

Poots once said that a "100% gameplay pledge", including promos because those have gameplay, would cost more than a Satan pledge even after a bundle discount.

Ancient Gold Lantern: $750
Seven revealed new expansions: $290 total
New promos: $40 total (so far just Super Survivors)
Old promos: ~13 models, let's value it at $250 for argument's sake, probably high but approximately ballpark

1666 - 750 - 290 - 40 - 250 = $336.

There are at least $336 worth of new expansions and promos left to reveal. Probably more. Let that sink in for a bit.

>>50733562
In fact we've only revealed $330 worth of new expansions + promos by that count. We aren't even halfway done. Jesus christ.

>>50733562
If he releases the other 4-5 xpacs we're expecting that should easily be $200+

Also pinups of all the old monsters and some of the new ones. easily at least 5+ so that's $75.

Promos could be whatever.

But that's about what I'm expecting.

>>50733594
Pinups wouldn't be included in that figure, just promos. Promos have gameplay, pinups don't. At least, that's what Poots has been saying although he then immediately contradicted that shit with the Pinups of Death II pack so... yeah.

For promos, I'm still expecting a Messenger of Fashion JoJo figure. More Messengers, in general, could be really cool.

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>>50733579
>>50733562
NO BRAKES

>>50733632
I don't take Poo at his word because he flips more than a light switch.

Plus if everything (xpacs) is revealed by the 24th there's what, one week worth of reveals.

>>50733530

This. I want stupid sexy shirtless The Hand that is just in an absurd pose and showing off his abs, but is still wearing his helmet.

>>50733499
>>50733510
>>50733530
>>50733723
We need to start sending this shit to Poots. This shit is gold.

>>50733723
Man, I would actually love some gag pinups. Like The Hand in the exact same pose wearing the helmet, a codpiece, and NOTHING ELSE.

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Jesus...this is going to 100% worth it.

>>50733767
If it's trap isn't called FINAL SMASH I'm gonna be disappointed. It's fight LITERALLY uses Smash Bros rules.

>>50733767
I really hope he makes the model more interesting because SQUATS AND OATS gryphon just isn't really doing it for me.

>>50733767
Man, for once I really don't like a model. It's so uninteresting and I'm bored of penis tails. I hope the WiP is better.

>>50733767
Can't wait to crit to pop its back zit.

>>50733767

Yeah but I don't like the look of the armor sets.

>>50734086
Am I the only one who doesn't like any of the armor set images they've shown recently? Not the Frogdog ones, not the Oblivion Mosquito ones, and not the Gryphon ones. I don't even think it's because I dislike the design, I think I just do not like that art style / presentation. They all look exactly the same to me. It's real disappointing to look at. Just a bunch of variations on "cloth armor with WoW shoulderpads".

>>50734029
>gain 3 extra Gryphon resources and a Lingering Scent strange resource. Then, [_|_] INDOCRTINATING FRAGRANCE

>INDOCRTINATING FRAGRANCE
>The survivors breath in a full lungful of the strange scent, their minds going into overdrive as they become obsessed with serving the Gryphon. The survivors never return. Archive all resources gained this fight and suffer the Starvation effect on the hunt board.

>>50734242
Yea the new armour sets look like trash. Whatever, they're not included in the xpac so the people who want trash you pay extra for it.

>>50733384
>Apotheosis
>not overtly pinupperrific and perfect in every way.

>>50734242

Frog dog and screaming god were both great, IMO.

>>50734436
The Screaming God armor looked great, but it was a different style and different artist. I'd be willing to bet, personally, that if the same artist did the Screaming God armor as did the others I would hate it too. It's just really boring and uninspiring.

At this point I'm just bitching for the sake of bitching, but it's something I noticed.

>>50734242

I think its just the art style, but you are right that the newer stuff seems a bit too... overdesigned.

The mosquito armor looks cool, at least, if only because of the mirror faces. Gonna put FOIL on that shit.

What expansions does /tg/ recommend, heard Lonely Tree wasn't too good.

>>50734872
Gorm and Dragon King

>>50734872
>best
Gorm, Dragon, Beetle Knight
>great
Sunstalker, Flower Knight, Lion Knight
>good
Spidicules, Manhunter, Slenderman
>not worth the cost but good if you can get it black friday or through the ks
Lion God
>completionist bait
Wojack Tree, Green Armor

>>50734872
Great: Gorm, Dragon King, Dung Beetle Knight
Good: Sunstalker, Flower Knight, Manhunter
OK: Lion Knight, Spidicules, Slenderman
Bad: Lonely Tree, Lion God, Green Knight Armor

These are also sorted by value. The OK and even the Bad ones aren't actually terrible, they just don't give as much content as the ones above.

>>50734975
Doesn't Lion Knight come with role survivors as well as Lion Knight Armor survivors?

>>50735006
Nemeses don't have armor. He just comes with Role Survivors. And those are nice, but that's not really what I meant by value -- by that I meant gameplay value, the 'breadth' of play that the expansion effects.

The Manhunter vs. Lion Knight question is a monster of a question. The two play very similar roles in a campaign and really aren't usable in the same campaign unless you're very masochistic. Manhunter is mean as hell and just fucking kicks you while you're down constantly, while Lion Knight is a little more lighthearted and helps you out as well.

It really comes down to what you would prefer: a goofy lion who shows up at your settlement and wants to put on plays and helps as much as he hurts, or a savage bastard who just wants to kidnap people and drive you into the dirt.

>>50735062
>Nemeses don't have armor. He just comes with Role Survivors.
Thanks, I haven't played any of the expacs.

>>50735154
I hope this isn't confusing, but you can still get armor from Nemeses. They also have gear that can be attached to the ~120 figures you get from the main game.

https://www.shutupandsitdown.com/review-kingdom-death-monster/

tl;dr
>it's hyped, so we did it to cash in
>wtf is this, I can't even!
>it's so weird!
>it's so hard!
>it's so expensive!
>it's so sexist!

>>50735657
>https://www.shutupandsitdown.com/review-kingdom-death-monster/
>this "Humor"
Holy fuck.

>>50735657
>>50735732

We just spent last thread talking about this. Move on.

>>50735794
bleh, I wasn't here last thread...
time to do some back reading then

>>50735794
Fuck you faggot, thread is ded as fuck we may as well yell at british people.

If we want to laugh at autistic idiots, and shitpost, lets talk about how Nognoth has reduced his gofundme to only ask for 750 dollars. He continues to be a poor pleb who does nothing for this game, but expects thanks from the community for stealing the work of other modders.

>>50735863
Fuck you right back cunt. Here, I'll boil down the conversation to you.

>He's an SJW
>He makes some good points
>We'll ignore those though because he sounds funny
>Fart noises

>>50735894
>he is muh internet friend because I watch his reviews
>so we'll ignore the grotesquely biased bullshit like at 17:40, where he displays NOTHING but tits from multiple rulebooks to prove a point.

>>50735942
Thanks for proving the point

>>50735942
>Talking out of your ass
>this is the first review of his I've ever watched

>>50735894
You're a faggot, your opinion is discarded.

>>50735970
>He watches review shows.
Lmao

>>50735894
Well he makes a few big mistakes.

Like saying you need to do the tutorial fight every time you start a campaign.

>>50736105
>Fart noises

>>50736163
>Faggot.
See I can do that too!

>>50736183
Cunt

>>50736215
>Fart Noises! EX DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Faggot.

how sad, being such a raging sjw that you have to invade a rinky dink forum to ensure people are sticking with your one and only truth

>>50735960
>>50735970
>>50736105
>>50736134
>>50736163
>>50736183
>>50736215
>>50736226
Quality discussion

>>50736226
There was literally news that the gryphon, probably one of the hypest expansions so far, a giant dragon sized bird lion that rips survivors in half with a penis tail and enslaves civilizations to build its nest is on its way, and instead of talking about that, you're calling someone on the internet you will never meet a homophobic slur.

Why are you even here?

>>50736253
Why not?

>>50736253
Also;
>Gryphon
>Hype
It's not Ringtail OR BIG BLACK KNIGHT

You fucking cuck.

>>50736325
I just feel there could be a better use of your time. Isn't there some chores you need to do? You probably have dishes in the sink.

>>50736342
>projecting
Wew Lad
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>>50736352
Shit, I do have dishes in the sink. Well played.

>>50736368
And I do not.

Looks like the washcloth is on the OTHER hand.

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My friends and I just finished a campaign last night, beat the watcher. Starting a new settlement right now! We'll be streaming it for a while

www.vidyashorts.com/ss/#rudywastaken

Posted wrong link before

>>50736381
>TTS
D:

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>>50733277

as far as I can tell, it is the best bang for your buck tier. As of right now, its a $770 value on the kickstarter prices, and roughly double that for MSRP prices.

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>>50733632

I would fucking love a JoJo promo, especially after getting a JoJo version of Poots in the Gambler's Chest.

>*Yes, we will fix the card with the wrong name and hook up anyone that needs it!
What did he mean by this?

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Now wait a second, this 4 Million Pledge Goal was not there before, was it?
Are we getting something new again?

>>50735657
People are mad about this? This is a fucking glowing review.

His only complaint is that the format is unnecessarily messy and crowded, and that having to replay it from the top can be boring. Honestly, I'm not sure why he says he can't recommend it. Nearly everything he talked about was "hey if you like this kind of thing you'll love it but if you don't you probably won't care one way or the other"

All the shit about how everything is against you and this is a game where cascade failure is in full force like Darkest Dungeon or Xcom is exactly what I love about it. It's part of that new doom and gloom "you aren't meant to win you're meant to have fun losing" genra that cropped up recently. And even if fighting the white lion for the hundredth fucking time gets kind of repetitive, dude even admits that the randomness and learning as you play keeps things fresh despite that. Unless of corse you want to waste your time making the game less interesting by reading through every possible scenario, in the same way you replay a mission in xcom over and over until you get it right.

... I've been replaying xcom lately.

>>50737583
Both the $1,5M and $4M goal weren't there before last night's update. So yes Adam apparently came up with something new.

>>50737862
not mad, sort of amused rather. he really seems overwhelmed by it all

If you got to design a monster for the game just by giving poots it's name; what would it be?

>>50738008
El Presidente

>>50738008
Wendigo!

>>50738008
Huldra

>>50738008
The Living Martyr
Revelations Unheeded
Goatsinger
King All-Thor
The Moon

>>50738008
Girtablilu/stonewurm

oomukade

>>50738100
The hulders were held to be kind to charcoal burners

>/pol/

Why is Lonely Tree so looked down upon? Is it just because it's a complicated build? Is it too punishing? Or are the rewards just not worth the inclusion?

>>50738228
You have to pray to the RNG during another showdown just to get the chance to face the tree.

>>50738008
Hydra, I'd fucking love a KD hysra.

>>50738008
Pick any of the stupid D&D original monsters.
Intellect Devourer
Displacer beast
Rust monster
Grick
Grell
Hook Horror.
All that silly shit would be treat.

Ok i think living martyr or goatsinner wins.

The Toymaker.

>>50738228
It´s just very expensive for what it adds, which is a Nemesis with pretty nice rewards that you have to get really lucky to ever encounter, though.
Most of the time it is basically just a pretty model for a Nightmare Tree terrain.

>>50738008
Mimics

>>50738008
Domesticated Lionfish

Could someone explain the sunstalker campaign? I'm definitely getting dragon king but I dislike the sunstalker mini so I'd like to know if the campaign would make it worthwhile.

>>50739043
It's like moving in with abusive partner that leeches off you and every once in a while pukes all over your shit.

>>50739068
I've been in that kind of relationship already, I'm not sure I want to enter another one.

So much vomit.

>>50739043
The Sunstalker forces you into the Survival of the Fittest principle, though with a somewhat milder Intimacy table, that means quite a bit for the direction of your campaign.

>>50735062
Doesn't the lion knight also have rules for hybrid armor sets? Those seem awesome

>>50737539
The setup card incorrectly refers to the nightmare fruits as something else. Poots is going to fix this

>>50739143
The Lion Knight expansion comes with two Hybrid Armour Set cards if I recall correctly.

>>50739177
Three, actually.

>>50738008

Golden screaming Ant

>>50738008
Edge Lord

>>50738117
>King All-Thor
not King Al'Thor

>>50738008

Puppeteer
Dweller below
Hercules Beetle Knight
Dead Winds
Mantis
Marsh Snake

>>50733499
The Hand struck me as more of a Freeza. He's the smug-est.

>>50738008

Far Eastern Ant Knight

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>>50739633
>Mantis

>>50738008
The Waker's Circle
Voivode
The Lambent Flame
The Watcher in the Dark

>>50738008
I bet Poots could create something horrible with the most innocent of names

Benevolent Mother Marissa
The Holy Trinity
Jimmy
Brother Bear
Unicorn Queen

>>50739633

These are good

>>50738008

Forgotten Forest God
Enkidu
Mother of Sins
Mirror Knight
It

>>50739785
>Jimmy
>Not Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld.

>>50740001
>Forgotten Forest God
That could be quite interesting.

>>50740047
Are there even forests in there? I've always wondered.
If the KDM world is a neverending flat barren with nothing but stone faces on the ground, and there's no sunlight, how do the survivors get wood, or water, or grow vegetables?

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When you active the Shield, and supposing you get attacked with Speed 3, do you parry all of these hits or just one of them?
I'd be tempted to lean on "all of them" but it seems to be much more powerful than it has any right to be desu

>>50740119

There's the Flower Knight's garden.

>>50740119
there's definitely different areas, and at least 1 forest and an upside down mountain have been mentioned

>>50740139
You only block one successful hit per block.

>>50738008
After the first KS I though about a couple.
>Octopus
Fought in an underwater cave. Stationary monster deployed on a table edge, but a bunch of tentacles can hurt/drag survivors. Think of it like a Gradius Boss fight

>The Thing
Basically Stephen King's the Thing. Fight a nemesis monster, but, at the end of the fight, one of the survivors is randomly/secretly infected and becomes the new Thing. The for the duration of the game and until the Thing is permanently killed, settlement has to figure out who it is or it infects the rest.

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>tfw you will never unlock Kingsman Pinup

>>50740119
The Forest and the Abyssal Woods are places in the KD universe. Flower Knight, Flower Witch /w Disciples, and Spidicules are all from there... I think.

>>50738008

Triggered Harpy :)

>>50740119
>If the KDM world is a neverending flat barren with nothing but stone faces on the ground, and there's no sunlight,
That's just the Plains where Kingdom Death: Monster takes place. The world has more variety, there's sea, forests, cities and many more.

>>50740299
I like this

>>50738049
>>50738100
I favor these options.

Though it's occured to me that the Gambler might be a Wanderer rather than a Nemesis, and perhaps a Huldra could work that way too.

>>50740533

I feel like the gambler works better as a settlement event. He shows up, challenges the settlement to a game, and you play for keeps.

You have to bet something to play, and the more you bet the more you win/lose based on a simple game of 'roll higher than me'.

Bet a piece of gear? Lose it or get some basic resources.

Bet a survivor's life? they die or they learn a (secret?) fighting art

Bet three lives? They all die, or you get a piece of rare gear.

That sort of thing.

You play until you stop playing or you lose, and then the Gambler leaves.

>>50738008
Triglaw.

Comes from old Slavic lore, it means Three Head(ed). Triglaw is merge of three old gods who had to join forces as the faith in the old way waned. The heads / personalities are at odds with each other - one is greedy and wicked, one is stern and noble and the last one is the judge and keeper of the old laws.

>>50740588
At 12+ pop you can chose 4 Survivors to gamble for one game. The bet is everybody else in the settlement.

>>50740588
>>50740533
Nah, People of the Wager campaign. It's a bet between the gamblers first face and second face on if your settlement will survive.

>>50738008
Flail Snail
Wampus Cat
Melting Turtle
The Grinning Owl
Behemoth
Cryptic Knight

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>>50733993
>I'm bored of penis tails

Alright I already pledged for the $300 tier. I have another $300 to spend on add ons. What do you guys think are the ones most worth?

Would I also be able to add on more add-ons after the campaign during the pledge manager?

>>50740828
>Would I also be able to add on more add-ons after the campaign during the pledge manager?
The theory and general opinion is yes, there will be an opportunity to add more funds for addons during the pledge manager, but Poots is being intentionally cagey about it because he wants the numbers on the main page to go up as much as possible.

As for addons, you have to ask yourself if you want just new expansions, just old expansions, or if you're okay getting some sooner some later and paying shipping both waves. A lot of people are intentionally only pledging for one of the two expansion waves to save on shipping. From the sounds of it you've got the Black Friday Gold Lantern pledge so you'll have the Gambler's Chest showing up in wave 3 approximately ~6 months after the old expansions show up in wave 2, so you could conceivably wait for the new expansions in wave 4 and get what appear to be better deals on them. But that's up to you.

The "quality" of the new stuff is very much up in the air. You know as much as we do on that. For the old stuff, I refer to these posts:
>>50734964
>>50734975

>>50740828
I'm pledging for 300 now and nothing else even if I could go up to 500. I'll take either all the expansions in a bulk deal or none at all. Even if the next bulk deal comes in 2020.

>>50740139
You only block that many hits as Block says.
Usually just one (Block 1), some shields have Block 2 I think.

>>50733252
sauce on image ?

>>50740971
The Beacon Shield has block 2. I believe that's the only core game shield with block 2, though.

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i had to pay 22.90 euro extra for this order.

i am not upset i would just like to understand

i thought vat costs where like 20%

>>50733767
It's just a generic fantasy gryphon with a penis tail. To be honest is a fucking shitty model, totally not in the style of KD and definitely not worth the massive money they ask for it.

That improvement better be a massive overhaul.

>>50738008
Impurity Construct

So if I back this at a tier that includes the original KDM + all 12 expansions... is there anything significant from the original Kickstarter that isn't included in that?

>>50740994
Lantern Festival concept art with crudely pasted Spidicules face. We made it back it the day of the first kickstarter.

>>50741233
VAT is not uniform across the EU. 20% is simplification for foreigners shipping into the EU so they have some idea what to expect, realistically it can be anything between 17 and 29.

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>>50740994
Here's the unmodified version.

>>50738008
Chained slug-knight
Stockade witch

>>50739581
Fuck, I was worried it'd been thought of but assumed by Grant Morrison, not some generic fantasy writer

Let's say you're playing a Seven Swordsmen campaign and you draw the clinging mist settlement event and roll a 8+. If you choose to start a new settlement, do you gain the new population for a settlement, overriding the seven swordsmen rules, or is the new settlement permanently capped at 4 population?

>>50741382
I'm the original poster of the question and I declare this the winner. I picture a clockwork woman that swamps your party with various -1 tokens?

>>50740588
>based in a simple game of rill higher than me
So a straight 50/50 shot

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>I plan on taking alot of time and effort removing this perverted nonsense from the models, via sandpaper, glue, and green stuff. Creating a great game like KDM, and ruining it with some weird sexual fetish.. *shrug* I can fix it myself easily enough.

>>50741233
First you pay a customs charge depending on the type of goods you are receiving plus the shipping and any insurance (20% for miniatures into the UK but it varies by country).

Then You pay VAT on all goods bought in from outside the EU including the customs charge. You only pay this if the order is over £135 in the UK.

Then in the UK the post office shamelessly make you pay a "handling fee" which is essentially them charging you for having charged you vat / customs fees.

Also the customs and VAT are worked out in the currency of your receiving country but are worked out using the government's own exchange rate rather then the one you might find on XE etc.

They like to screw you in every hole they can find.

>>50741806
Smooth, porcelain skin broken up by jagged spikes erupting from beneath the cold flesh of the creature.

Maybe it hails from a long lost romantic settlement that created intricate mannequins for an unknown purpose. When the settlement fell, and the darkness overcame them, the will of the constructs was supplanted.

Maybe her AI deck has a bunch of dancing themed attacks/gimmicks.

How many of the pinups have actual gameplay attached to them?

If I want to back just enough to get everything that adds to the gameplay, do I need to pick up any of the pinups?

>>50741812
>not sure if ruse or that bad at math

>>50741431
>significant
Depends on your definition of the word "significant". There are a lot of figures which you will not be receiving. Some of those were duplicates -- for whatever reason, original backers of the game got multiple copies of certain armor kit sprues, two Phoenixes, two Watchers, and five Kingsmen. Many of the ones you would be missing are pinups figures -- sexy ladies -- with no gameplay components. Some of those you would be missing are promotional figures which originally *did not* come with gameplay but Poots has confirmed *will now have* some game content associated with them. However, Poots has confirmed that there will be a card pack available for those who already have the figures to get just the cards, and presumably those who don't have the figures and just want the gameplay could buy that. But there is absolutely no detail on the subject outside of that.

>>50741945
None of the pinups or promos in the original campaign have gameplay associated with them.

So far, none of the new pinups or promos in the current campaign have gameplay advertised as being associated with them -- but I, for one, do expact the Super Survivors to get gameplay once Poots fully reveals them, because he has said that promos will now have some small gameplay features associated with them.

A good chunk of the pinups released *between* the two campaigns have some exploratory gameplay content. Percival, Fade, Before the Wall, the new repackaged White Speaker box, etc etc etc. Most of it is very small and minor and appeared to be Poots' way of experimenting with what gameplay bonuses he could put into optional content without really breaking the game. None of these figures are available for purchase in the campaign.

The Pinups of Death II box will include some quantity of gameplay in it, just like the collated Pinups of Death I box did. PoD1 had extremely tiny amounts of gameplay so I for one don't expect much out of PoD2 but you never know. Poots has said that a separate card pack with just the PoD2 cards will be available.

Finally, you've got the original campaign's promos which did not originally arrive with gameplay (actually, they had gameplay planned for them but it turned out to suck in playtesting so Poots cancelled it) but will be gaining gameplay with the new printing. Poots has said that it will be possible to buy that gameplay content separately in its own pack, like the PoD2 card pack, for those who already have the figures / who don't want to buy new figures.

Neither the original promo card pack nor the PoD2 card pack have prices or any hard detail on them other than Poots saying he wants to make them.

>>50741877
Was that seriously a KS comment?

>>50742059
Yes, go look at the comments of the latest update.

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Anyone else got a Frogdog? Ugly as it is, I like the model. But this gap down her back is something else.

>>50742180
>order a surprise bag of miscasts
>surprised the parts don't match
Sometimes, I wonder...

Is there even a tier that includes EVERYTHING in this KS?

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>>50742202
No, it is a first run resin. Just sat on it a while, decided to start painting it now.

>>50742230
Yes. Gambler's Lanterns, Satan, Frodo and God Frogdog include everything in the Kickstarter.

No. No pledge includes Candy and Cola.

>>50742257
Gambler's Lanterns and regular Frogdog do not include old content.

>>50742230
Check the google document I posted here ( >>50733281 ) for a pictorial view of what pledges include what addons.

>>50742257
wait what, isnt candy and cola a promo?

>>50742338
It's a "crossover". And as such it isn't included due to IP restrictions. That's the reason Poots gave; good luck arguing with him otherwise.

>>50742338
it's add-on only due to licensing

>>50742240
Resin parts don't always line up neatly, especially big chunks. I'd say, gap filling time.

>>50742180
>>50742240
Honestly it looks like you fucked up. This is what dry fitting is for. You could've fixed this with a little filing and greenstuff before it became a huge issue, but you glued it in a stupid order and didn't dry fit it and in the end you deserve what you got.

>>50742409
I did dry-fit. It was either gap along the back, or gap along the face. I figured back would be less troublesome to fill and the hair easy enough to match with green stuff.

>>50742375
>>50742383
>have to change my pledge to 897 because of this

poots stop

>>50742627
"Pledge responsibly"
Adam Poots, 2016

>>50742043
Thank you for such a comprehensive answer, Anon.

>>50742511
Why can't you just squeeze it together? Dunk it in some hot water and make it work.

>>50741233
this scares me

i live in europe as well and looking at this order its a mere 50$ yet has an enormous extra cost.

was it confirmed yet, that if everything is shipped to the eu warehouse that we dont have to pay vat ?


ps
are these all not kickstarter figures with stories?

>>50742679
That's not how resin works, anon

>>50742708
Hot water softens it up. Use a pair of clamps to keep it together when you pull it out, and let it set.

>>50741912
Maybe she has a mood like wind down. She wounds herself at the end of each of her turns but has speed and attack equal to her remaining AI cards

>>50742708
That's exactly how you unwarp resin parts, anon.

>>50741233
The thing is, on top of the VAT you're usually paying handling costs from Customs as well.

Taking the Netherlands as an example (as I live there and order KD stuff all the time), you pay 21% VAT plus €14 handling fee.

Especially on smaller orders the handling fee will be nearly as high as the VAT.

>>50742719
Oh my god, what is this sorcery?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7NG2RaGqrU

How did I not see this before? Thanks anon, I'd tip my hat, but I don't wear one.

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A billion hours in Photoshop. A reference for new folk who keep asking which expansions are worth it.

Why are all poeple in this game so damn hot?

Is this game part of something occult? It's got evil vibes and looks like a money scam

>>50743015
Survival of the fittest.

>>50743015
The 'humans' are created by the Scribe for unknown purposes, if there are any, and he likes thick hotties and pretty men

I'm working on a homebrew expansion, but I'm stuck a bit on specific wordage for some names.

The main thematic resource is "daemon silver" that forges into durable weapons, and can be reforged/recycled at a metaphysical cost.

What I'm a bit hung up on is the use of the word daemonic, where I'm intending it as the original more neutral spiritual meaning and not the more modernized evil-only like demonic. What are some other words besides daemonic or fey that may be fitting for this?

>>50743057
http://www.thesaurus.net/

>>50742927
get rid of gorm shiba or fix it. otherwise not bad

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>>50742927
>tfw I bought it because I think its the best model

wish they didnt retcon it being a nemesis that showed up after killing too many lions

>>50743093
Gorm shiba is the best part. The Lion Knight is the one who doesn't fit. That head is tiny compared to the rest.

>>50743028
If the Evil Scam™ is that it delivers a great boardgame, then I suppose it's guilty.

Can you even win this game?

>>50743057

Antidiluvian Silver

Witch-Silver

Star Platinum

Mythic Silver

>>50743203
Yep.
But once you win, your characters die, your settlement is wiped out, and all known Survivors fade away into darkness.

>>50743231
Shit, maybe I should have put spoilers there.

>>50743241
That would have been prudent, yes.

>>50743231
Who can TPK count as win?

>>50743295
It's a story TPK. "Congratulations, you win! Your reward is death!"

>>50743231
>>50743241
Screw you. It's probably what I expected anyway.

>>50743325
Get rekt faggot

>>50743079
Honestly not all that useful, suggestions here were too broad to where I may as well typed in "fantasy creature."

>>50743219
There hasn't been any floods mentioned.

The only known Witch is the Flower Witch, and I want to avoid tacking on stuff to more specific things like that.

>ORA

Mythic might be a bit too on-the-nose, as practically everything in the setting is mythical.

I appreciate the suggestions.

>>50743119
>Gorm Shiba
Such shit.
Much piss.
Very vomit.
Wow!

>>50743343
Silence, you ravenous knobgobbling pillowbiter

>>50743387
>The only known Witch is the Flower Witch, and I want to avoid tacking on stuff to more specific things like that.
Bone Witch would like a word Anon... and some bones...

>>50733252
>a game about living Adonis-like statues in hell that try to stay alive

Is this really what the people are? Is there any place to read up on the combined lore of the world? I found a wiki but it was pretty empty.

>>50743436
I always forget about her.

I can't even make a penis joke due to the maneater bug.

>>50743427
I fail to see why you would use ravenous knobgobbling pillowbiter as ad hominem.

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>>50743119
not that anon, but pasted a slightly larger head on. lion knight just has a small head

>>50743436
You might say she'd have a bone to pick with Anon. Being left out like that is sure to be a bone of contention. Anon is basically boned, is what I'm saying.

>>50743467
People aren't really made from stone, but they certainly have bodies like those of an artist's sculpture.

However, I don't recall them actually being called human in fluff, typically just survivors, or men and women.

>>50743321
Well this sucks ass. My desire to buy this game droped to zero.

>>50743508
>men and women.

Can they fuck?

>>50743513
With that attitude you were never going to make it anyways. You were going to be one of those bitches who thought the prologue lion was too hard and quit three rounds in.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

>>50743508
>>50743467
A creature with an inverted face carves/draws all the stone faces in the ground. The Scribe then writes their story, or at least the prologue, into a great book and a survivor appears with eyes crusted with ink.

>>50743513
All roads in life lead to death. Everyone dies eventually even in They Lived Happily Ever After. But the People of the Stars die and turn into dragons, which isn't as bad.

>>50743529
>Can they fuck?
They can die fucking!

>>50743497
who the hell is the little guy? buyer's remorse?

>>50743504
exactly

>>50738008
>The Cynical Ape

A soul-stealing, smarter-than-you monkey that finds humanity's tendency for civilization bemusing. It'd be an end-game nemesis that first joins the settlement, living in a barrel off of donations. Maaaaybe it can offer things to the survivors that end up working against them during its fight later?

>>50743529
The settlement can trigger the Intimacy event to select a consenting male and consenting female survivors, and then roll on the d10 chart. Good results lead to a baby, or even twins or special children, bad results lead to miscarrages, be it motherly death, or both parents die from depression.

>>50738370
>The final showdown is against JC and a Welshman.

>>50743562
that's a lot of headcanon other than the first ones waking with ink eyes

>>50743554
>>50743570

It kinda sucks you're being punished for success instead of escaping into some less nasty place, growing into a real nation or some shit like that.

>>50742756
Something similar to Lion Knight where the survivors have a chance to play along? Like line dancing, the survivors are wounded if they drop the rhythm and suffer brain damage instead if the join in the dance.

>>50743641
The People of the Stars campaign is the closest to a "happy" ending, as the winning survivors turn into dragons.

>>50743609
Are parrent's traits inherited by the child so you can paly breeding game?

>>50743679

No, they're randomly rolled. Genetics has no hold on this world.

>>50743679
Somewhat but not to a great degree. Innovations are more important for pumping out stronk kids then any particular parent.

>>50743487
It's not ad hominem since I'm not trying to disprove an argument by attacking you instead.
I'm just calling you a fucking faggot in a more creative way.

>>50743679
What >>50743706, except for People of the Stars. And it makes sense -- most stats/traits are acquired, the basic 'genetics' of a KDM human is +0 to all stats, Move 5, no fighting arts, disorders, Understanding, Courage, abilities, or impairments. You can kinda teach kids the weapon proficiency of a parent, and if you have the right innovations new survivors might start out with some stat boosts. But the People of the Stars get dragon traits, which can be things like, oh, scales. These can get inherited once you've got the proper Innovation, and in fact doing mad in/cross-breeding is probably necessary to really succeed in People of the Stars.

>>50742627
It's clear (from context) Poots has to pay SPM for each crossover figure bought, so adding it to the bundle pledges would mean SPM would get a cut of all bundles, as would every other company he does a crossover with.

>>50738359
Displacer beasts rule

>>50740776
>Flail Snail

Any answer other than this is inferior.

>>50742682
>was it confirmed yet, that if everything is shipped to the eu warehouse that we dont have to pay vat ?
Poots will never confirm that as he doesn't want to be held to that promise if something goes down in the EU in the next 4 years.

>>50742682
>was it confirmed yet, that if everything is shipped to the eu warehouse that we dont have to pay vat ?
You will always have to pay VAT unless Poots decides to start producing his figures in the EU. VAT applies to all imports. KD:M, coming from China, counts as an import, even if it is shipped from a warehouse in the EU.

That's the law. For a while KS companies would skip paying VAT because they thought being a crowdfunding campaign meant they weren't imports, but there's been some brushes where a couple companies got fucked massively by that and since then every campaign either makes EU customers pay their own VAT (KD, Cthulhu Wars, God's War), or subsidizes the VAT across the entire KS (Scythe) or just lies to customs and hopes they don't get caught at some point (CMoN).

>>50743595
Poots being sad people don't appreciate nightmare tree and lion god

>>50743057
Star-kissed silver

>>50743473
Witch - silver is cool

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Ram ass

>>50743513
Death comes for us all, anon
Poots simply chose not to end the story before that point

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>>50743659
Not what I was thinking. It's the only non organic monster i believe, so no games not many sanity attacks. Just straight up killing machine made of gears and bone. That eventually kills itself.

>>50743815
so if they where send right now. we wouldnt pay vat ?

>>50744132
You will always pay VAT unless Poots decides to either pay the VAT himself (like he did before) or smuggle it into the country on false pretenses (like CMoN does).

Poots is not going to do either of those things, so you will have to pay VAT.

>>50744000
>[try holding with both hands].jpg

>>50744074
Isnt that kind of close to the Butcher?

>>50743219
>>50743978
On second thought, Star Platinum/Star Silver could work thematically, as gemini is also a theme. The alchemical icon for platinum could easily be designed into the set's emblem.


I was already going to include a gauntlet weapon with Fist & Tooth type, may as well work with the anime reference. It's what Poots would have wanted.

>>50744165
but he didnt have that eu warehouse in the previous campaign.

>>50744354
He set it up for fulfilment on the first campaign, so yes for our rewards we were not paying VAT.

>>50744354
You are not listening. At all.

The warehouse does not matter for VAT. It does not make a lick of fucking difference. All the warehouse does is reduce shipping costs.

Every. Single. Thing. That. Comes. Into. The. EU. Must. Pay. VAT. Everything. Either Poots pays it (he wont'), or Poots lies about their value (he won't), or he passes the cost onto you (he will).

>>50744381
You didn't pay VAT the first time because Poots paid it for you. Tens of thousands of dollars worth of it. This time he isn't stupid and is not promising free shipping and is passing the price onto you for having ridiculous import taxes.

>>50744403
>You didn't pay VAT the first time because Poots paid it for you. Tens of thousands of dollars worth of it. This time he isn't stupid and is not promising free shipping and is passing the price onto you for having ridiculous import taxes.
I know

Poots wont pay for vat/taxes, but the thing that puzzles me is high shipment price (40 for base game?) I mean if they ship it from germany its very high prize even for 7kg box. Ethier we're group paying for conteiner with boxes on the china-germany line, or like somebody said (and i hope it may be true) whole order (conteiner)is taxed diffently (to our benefit in this instance).

>>50744778
this is what i think is happening and why poots isnt flat out saying we will pay vat (i mean why wouldnt he)

a lot of eu guys dont have to pay vat. but its gonna depends on the explicit ruling and stuff like brexit

>>50744778
It's an 11 kg box, and above all it's massive.
Size of the package influences shipping cost quite a bit, not just the weight.

>>50743641
Welcome to Kingdom Death! Where there are no happy endings; only eternal suffering!

>>50733767
I'm pretty excited to see what fucked-up-tivity People of the Nest causes.

Is anyone going to be playing a game on TTS this weekend that has an open slot? I'm hoping to try some of the game so I can figure out exactly how much I want to get other than the base game

>>50746523
You can try playing the game alone. TTS is kind of clunky for group play.

>>50746523
Just do a solo game.

I'm debating doing a new solo TTS runthrough using the "less valued" current expansions if only to see how good they are. Spidicules, Sunstalker, Slenderman, Manhunter, Lonely Tree, Lion God. (I know Sunstalker is well liked but it usually gets overshadowed by Dragon King as a campaign and by Dung Beetle Knight as a quarry).

Narrowing down what I want to order for expansions is goddamn impossible I swear. Gotta somehow stay away from that Satan pledge...

>>50733252
>And would be great if you didn't need to take out a fucking mortgage to get it and a few other monsters to play the game

FTFY

>>50746765
>250 dollars is a lot of money for a group of 4

How's the weather out there in Botswana?

>>50745641
>The eternal suffering of your wallet
>Emperors new clothes ltd edition add on coming soon!

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>>50746765
>>50746842
(You)

>>50746857
Is that a flower knight?

>>50744221
Maybe. It could be a node one nemesis that replaces butcher

>>50747447
As a nemesis it tajes away defeated survivors and stuffs mechanisms inside of them to create clockwork abominations. Losing the nemesis battle means the survivors lose a few pop as the construct drags victims into the darkness.

>>50747604
Now what would be interesting was if that added encounters with the mechanized survivors to the basic hunt event deck when you lose, removing each when resolved or all when you beat the construct nemesis.

>>50746857
>>50747447
>>50747604
>>50747659
I take it you're all level 4 Cum Glutton Knights?

>>50747717
Gluttons for punishment at least. We're playing KDM after all.

>>50747659
What story events does the construct add?

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So, how does this sound for a homebrewed, alternate campaign to get more mileage out of the Lion God:

On LY20, instead of triggering Watched, the survivors must depart and defeat a level 1 Lion God.

On LY25, instead of the Nemesis Encounter: Watcher, the survivors must depart and defeat a level 2 Lion God.

On LY28, an additional Nemesis Encounter: Level 3 must be faced (continuing the trend for the expanded campaign).

On LY30, instead of the Nemesis Encounter: Gold Smoke Knight, the survivors must depart and defeat a level 3 Lion God.

If the survivors ever fail to defeat the Lion God their settlement is lost. However, the Lion God cannot move off the hunt board; it will stay on the Starvation space even if instructed to move back.


To those of you who have fought the Lion God, does this seem balanced or fair? I honestly have no idea how hard he is beyond the fact that people have hyped him up as the hardest encounter in the game so far.

>>50747850
Also, on this note, without spoiling please, should the Silver City event be moved forward or just left at LY13?

Also considering giving the thing +2 Basic Resources to its L1 and L2 hunts to match up with the revealed changes to resource distribution.

>>50747832
like how to make simple machines somehow? Crossbows maybe.

Man, the Tyrant is somehow a lot easier than I expected.
Actually made it out of it totally unharmed.
He basically killed himself by drawing Mood Cards after Mood Cards.

>>50747717
> Cum glutton Knight
Stat me /tg

Can anyone remember what "price tier" the original Kickstarter went at for a copy of the game?

I remember it being very underpriced and I assume they probably learned their lesson this time round.

>>50747956
Maybe the ruins of the settlement the construct came from. Perhaps something that interacts with forbidden dance or drums or something. Gear could perhaps be made from the jagged protrusions which are hard like iron. People of the Impurity?

>>50741314
Generic minus that second head inside its head.

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>>50748131
And the mind-control zit, and killing bigger monsters somehow instead of stealing from shepherds.

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So, these Antelope rewards.

It used to be monster rewards went:
4 / 4
4 / 6
4 / 8 + special resource

In comparison, these are:

+0 / +0
+2 / +1
+2 / +2

Poots said to add +1 / +1 to L2 monster rewards in general. The update specifically says that the Antelope gained "greater rewards" to make it a more appealing hunt, so it is reasonable to assume that the other monsters won't get as large of a boost.

For a generic non-antelope L3, would +1 / +2 sound reasonable? Would make 'generic' quarries give:

4 / 4
5 / 7
5 / 10 + special resource

The Antelope maintains its superiority as a monty haul monster, but the other L3 hunts become more tasty as well.

Thoughts?

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>>50733252
Dragon King Expansion Question:
What does the Dragon Speech Innovation card say? Can anyone type it out or post a pic?
THANKS!

>>50748795
slagathor plz go

>>50748805
I'm asking for Slagathor, yes.

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>>50748808
It is literally language.

wow its fucking nothing.png.jpg.tiff

>>50744403
Pledges meant for EU will probably be shipped from China directly to the EU hub. There will be import charges, but the same goes for the US pledges imported from China (companies that manufacture in China have normally calculated these charges into retail price). Shipping from the EU hub to the various EU countries does not incur VAT or import charges.

>>50738008
Wendigo
Underwater Panther or Mishipeshu

>>50748967
>Shipping from the EU hub to the various EU countries does not incur VAT or import charges.
This is false. The company has to pay VAT when they bring the product into the warehouse, and they have to pay it on the retail price of the goods. This is why Poots is passing the price onto the EU customers.

>>50749012
>The company has to pay VAT when they bring the product into the warehouse, and they have to pay it on the retail price of the goods.
I'm all for authoritarian leftism but this is straight-up protectionism.

Anyone have a link to where I can read some of the fluff on the setting/monsters?

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>>50749113
There is no such place. The game isn't designed that way. It's a 'show, don't tell' kind of game.

>>50749171
I'd like this to be the OP of next general.

>>50748845
But clearly this is deep lore implying they speak a different language that is more like Russian (due to the red bubble).

>>50749182
No joke. How many times have people asked, "Duh, ware cun I just no errythang?"

>>50748845
Thanks, and, fuck off you cocktail sucking faggot

>>50749113
http://insidethewall.forumatic.com/viewforum.php?f=21

It's possibly not comprehensive, but it's not a bad repository.

>>50749247
Far better than the collection on Vibrant Lantern, thanks.

>>50749247
>>50749113
This is the best one I've found.
https://shop.kingdomdeath.com/collections/sold-out

>>50749325
Vibrant Lantern is a retarded Poo sycophant. He also makes shit tons of mistakes in literally everything he puts up.

Surprised people use that terrible site.

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>>50749326
>/sold-out

>>50749326
The thing is, some of the stuff recorded on Inside the Wall has fallen off the Shop or came from updates and announcements (like Ringtail survivors) and was never there in the first place.

>>50750253
Just a real shame they didn't rehost any of their images, tons of Kickstarter this link is missing shit in there.

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>>50748094
the cheapest "early black friday" deals were at a ridiculous 85$ USD.
Got mine at a early BF deal for 133 to come with extra shits, including the "Survivor" box which had even more armor sprues, a 2nd phoenix watcher and 4 kingsmen

the game went by its own at 100$ usd otherwise

A stupidly good deal

>>50750303
Yeah, that's probably the biggest downside.

I heard 4chan had decent discussion of kingdom death, but this seems pretty dead

>>50750875
Quality, not quanity.

However it's midnight EST so the shitposting children are sleeping right now.

>>50750692
Meh. Can't tell who the faces are other than SPARTA

>>50750875
Don't believe everything you hear, young one. Sit next to someone with a few lantern years on them, you might gain some understanding

Is lactation a thing in this game? Like in a wierd way?

>>50750692
Those mammarios are ban, anon. But she would fit in with that body

>>50751011
Besides the giant, mind controlling monster that uses it?

>>50751054
>>50751085
that would be how I would die from being unable to stop cumming: the wetnurse made out of Alexandria daddario... I would just immediately suffer frenzy brain trauma and fuck every part of it I could reach

>>50751085
Which isn't in the game.

>>50751011
Not in any sexualized context. The Wet Nurse monster is just that, a wet nurse. It just brainwashes the people in the process. However, the Wet Nurse will almost never become an expansion to the game, just a entitity with lore and a model behind it.

>>50751138
>>50751165
It needs to be. I want to collect its sliced off tits as organ resources, and create shoulder pads and helmets for female survivors. When struck they would lactate stored monster grease and aid evasion, when not increasing rolls for intimacy

>>50750692
That's quite the batch of survivors. What disorders and fighting arts would Nicholas cage have?

>>50751291
>disorders
all of them

>>50751130
you haven't seen the model then, I take it.

>>50750875
What did you want to discuss?

>>50739177
>>50739309
Also it's a Knight, so it comes with a Badge that allows for tactics cards.

Although the LK tactics aren't necessarily as good as the ones for other knights.

>>50751011
The wet nurse pinup comes with a beast pump gear card.

>>50749012
And how is he doing that? Are you implying it is included in the shipping costs mentioned in the KS page?

>>50749012
so then you are saying that all americans need to pay vat to. since it is imported from china.

>>50753402
VAT is a EU law.

American import taxes are miniscule in comparison. Although, let's be honest here... they might not be for terribly long.

>>50749012
>Since I don't know where you live the fastest way to find out if you have to pay VAT or not is to check which warehouse for fulfillment is closest to you - US, CA, EU, AU - and check online if your country charges VAT rates if you receive a package from the other country.
For example if you live anywhere in the EU you won't pay VAT because everything will be shipped from the EU warehouse to your place.
Also no he couldn't just confirm which countrys have to pay VAT or not, since he would have to check it for every single country and that could take some time.

>VAT is region dependent, so if your region isn't in the warehouse typography it's shipped in, additional charges may occur depending on the country.

>>50750827
>the cheapest "early black friday" deals were at a ridiculous 85$ USD.
>Got mine at a early BF deal for 133 to come with extra shits, including the "Survivor" box which had even more armor sprues, a 2nd phoenix watcher and 4 kingsmen
>the game went by its own at 100$ usd otherwise
>A stupidly good deal
Exactly why I didn't back it. It was doomed to failure but Poots just kept rolling tens.

>>50753492
>>50753492
i pledged a total of 500$ tho, for nearly every xpac and shit

it was still a lot of money he got back then

sure it felt at times as though most might not make it but in the end, he did. everything delivered except lantern festival which he refunded.

thats passion

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