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so, has anyone played Bellum Maga http://projects.inklesspe

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so, has anyone played Bellum Maga

http://projects.inklesspen.com/fatal-and-friends/kurieg/bellum-maga/#1
for those that haven't seen it before
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>>50686975
>Witch girls adventures
Still TF and bad end heavy?
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> I’m going to need more alcohol for this.
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>>50686975
It reads just like one of those villain sourcebooks from oWoD. Like I'm watching the internal perspective of the Baali or Nephandus.
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>>50686975
Fuck I hate my fetish. It scares people away and it can never happen (which is probably for the best) but most of all, I hate other people who have my fetish, because they make shit like this.

This is some real stupid and fucked up shit, but at least they aren't marketing it to children anymore.
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>>50688417
extremely

Honestly working for the Serpent seems pretty chill. You get to hang out with Ronald Reagan, get superhuman strength, and can kill the horrific Maga
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>>50689220
if it makes you feel better pervert-anon, I don't think this is fap fuel. Its more of a power fantasy and radical feminism for pseudointellectual crazies
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>>50688949
As a someone barely sober enough to still read in English and using autocorrect to get shit posted. It doesn't help at all
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>>50689220
>>50689396
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>>50689396
Going by their previous work?
It's fap fuel
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RPGs where you play as the BBEG are uncommon.

Wish there was a module or something that let you play as Moonman and the KKK Mafia.
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>>50689950
Saying this system let's you play as a BBEG is true, but it gives the system too much credit. I don't think they're self aware enough to know the characters are pure evil
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>>50689220
I'm confused, what fetish is this even?
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>>50690104
The previous works by the same people who made this system are pretty infamous. Witch Girls Adventures was a tabletop game that had a lot of elements relating to transformation. If I'm remembering correctly, the creator of the game used to work on transformation fetish porn, so the massive amount of fucked up transformations in Witch Girls, supposedly a game for young girls, was alarming to say the least.
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>>50690138
Even looking past the fetish aspect all together, the imagery and implications of the transformation content was dark as fuck.

Shit like "turn someone into dust thats still conscious and will never die" just for being annoying, was encouraged.

It literally hits IHNMAIMS levels of fucked.
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>>50690176
It goes beyond IHNMAIMS. At least AM was fully aware of being pure evil and acted on open malice. While here we've got a situation where you are playing as outright sociopaths who don't care and often don't even register their actions in any morality code.
On the other hand, it IS a game about giving almost unlimited powers to teenage girls, so at least the game doesn't shy from being open how this shit would worked if you suddenly empower someone to be almost a physical god. The "Chronicle" wibe is what made me look at the game in the first place.

And yeah, it's also very fetishistic in nature, even without looking who made it.
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>>50690104
>>50690138
The content in Witchgirls adventures and his old fetish porn was EXACTLY THE SAME, right down to his evil mary sue OC he added to the game's fluff
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>>50686975
>Tumblr: The Delusion, The TRPG

This literally reads like some Tumblrwhale's fucking Fanfic made RPG
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>>50692279
I've seen worse. And given who made it, it's just typical power fantasy combined with a lot of /d/ stuff.
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>>50692279
To be frank, the stuff /tg/ produces every time a new wave of neckbears hears about WGA for the first time is even more cringe-inducing.
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>>50694297
Usually because it's purely reactionary. If you try to make a setting/game/fluff based entirely around the anger you feel for someone else's already garbage game system, you probably aren't going to be making a masterpiece.
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>>50694297
The game is now what? 6 years old? 7? Is it even still possible to "first time" hear about it, while using /tg/ on regular basis?
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>>50694360
You are missing the point so hard I'm not even sure if you weren't replying to different thread, but mixed up windows in the end.
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>>50694244

>I've seen worse.

Now my curiosity has been piqued. What have you seen besides Fatal?
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>>50694465
At minimum there's Wraeththu (or however it's spelled), as well as a fairly large chunk of CthulhuTech. I'm sure there's others.
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>>50694481

Flower dicked hermaphrodites, I remember. What about CthulhuTech, though?
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>>50694499
Gratuitous inclusion of rape machines, I guess.
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>>50694499
There's at least "hentai genitalia" (exact quote) and rape furries, and I'm pretty sure there's at least one faction that uses rape as a sustainable power source. There's also the rules being trash, but that's probably not what you're asking about.
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>>50694523

Shit man, got anything that you can post?
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>>50694559
I try to avoid saving trash, but I know that FATAL and friends has a review in which they go over the mechanics, as well as some of the core-book examples of trash. Here's a picture of the rape furries as a teaser.
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>>50694432
I'm curious, because I do feel I must be missing the point if you responded like that.
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>>50694598
What's even funnier is that the fluff and crunch of that scene has the player character falling for something that that type of creature is explicitly immune to.
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>>50692279
If the review is anything to go by, Tumblr would probably lynch Abby Soto on sight for being "transphobic".
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>>50695659
I think that was a /tg/ creation
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>>50695659
Really mod?

http://4archive.org/board/tg/thread/46090474
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>>50686975
In case any of you /pol/ types around here are feeling insecure in hating this game, worrying it's just your politics making you think it looks bad, I'm as left wing as they come and I think it looks pretty awful.
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>>50699730
Games designed around the creator's pet social issue tend to be awful.

That's why I only create systems designed around my fetishes.
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>>50699730
Forcing your politics into a game is pretty much always bad
Forcing your politics into the very fabric of the system, so that they can literally NEVER be taken out is always abhorrent.
It's also an objectively stupid business descision, especially in this case since in general you're turning half the available population to your product, and in this case you're trying to appeal to the most fickle and least loyal consumer base possible. If you're lucky, then they'll drop you like a black father holding his kid for the first time. If you ain't, they'll turn on you for some BS reason
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>>50699749
>That's why I only create systems designed around my fetishes
>Implying this isn't the very case with this "game"
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>>50699969
>implying you didn't understand that post was a joke

Wait, you actually didn't understand that, did you
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>>50699989
First day in the net?
I suggest then reading about Poe's Law
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>>50699749
Clever anon
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>>50686975
Reminder that it is perfectly viable and legal in this game to transform yourself into a monstrous (anything) and derive all your magical power from devouring whole servants of the serpent.
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Honestly I think this could be a slightly fun universe.

Under their way? Not in a million years. But from a different angle I think it could be great.

If this is just the propaganda angle of one side shown, the other side would be great. Imagine a game where the party is a group of normal people thrown into joining alongside Southern militia groups as they have to fight against an evil cult that has conquered the globe. With the help of the military remnant and all those to oppose these monsters, you must save the world from the tyranny that is: Matriarchy.
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>>50700599
I feel like pure reactionary is the wrong way to go with this. Let me paint you another picture:

You are Joe Schmuck, an average person living in (CURRENT YEAR). You have your opinions, we all do, but you don't think there's any big evil force out to destroy humanity by casting half of it into servitude to the other half.

Unfortunately for you, you're wrong. There's two of them, both formed of humans who have learned magic, both extremely powerful, and both think that anyone who doesn't side with them is supporting the other. Doesn't even have to be the Serpent and the Goddess, could be any two forces. The point is, they're powerful, vindictive, and now they're after you. Fortunately for you, they're used to taking advantage of their powers and you happen to know ways to foil them. If you falter, you're as good as dead (or worse), but between the few flaws in their magic you've found and their blinding hatred of each other, there are ways for you and those close to you to survive.

Now add in 3 other people and you have a party.
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>>50699730
Can you think of any ways to have a better system/setting with the same politics?
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>>50705093
Literally cWoD/nWoD do this a 1000 times better, if you have a good GM.
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>>50699730
Honestly, any game with an obvious political message is almost always bad. It's mainly because "people I respect but still have major dissagreements with on certain issues" don't make good antagonists, so all the people with opposing viewpoints have to be devil-worshipping psychopaths.
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>>50686975
Why is all of the art rainbow haired dykes perpetrating over the top acts of magical violence against white men.

It's like they've inserted their fetish and their political views into the same thing. This is some next level shit.
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>>50701191
Pretty much. Do you want to sign on to the massive, fascist organization that controls the world and treats regular people like cattle, or the violent, uncontrollable rebels, who see nothing wrong with literally eating a person to regain their power? Choose quickly, because they're both convinced you're working for their enemies!
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>>50705489
>It's like they've inserted their fetish and their political views into the same thing. This is some next level shit.

>not having your fetish be your political views
>not having your political views be your fetish
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>>50705512
>do you have any sexual fantasies
>anarcho-captialism
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>gamemistress
jesus christ, gamemaster is a gender neutral word.

also the spelling/grammar errors make me sad. they do a disservice to every human.
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>>50705524
Free Cities, I presume?
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>>50705534
I'm not familiar. Please explain for clueless normie.
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>>50705544
Twine-based text game where you play as an anarcho-capitalist despot in charge of an arcology, managing your giant harem of sex slaves and making mad dosh through economic warfare.
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>>50705512
I have neither extreme political views (I'm a classical liberal) or extreme fetishes (I like redheads and also women with small boobs). So it's a little difficult for me to do this kind of thing.

This whole "OH MY FUCKING GOD MUST MURDER AND TORMENT THESE LOATHSOME WHITE MALES WITH MAGIC URRRRR" is a little upsetting for me.
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>>50705607
>This whole "OH MY FUCKING GOD MUST MURDER AND TORMENT THESE LOATHSOME WHITE MALES WITH MAGIC URRRRR" is a little upsetting for me.
You get used to it, it's easier to take in if you laugh about it.

>(I like redheads and also women with small boobs)
Green eyes and freckles too?
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>>50705630
actually not a fan of freckles tbqh senpai
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>>50705663
Damn, you almost had perfect taste there for a second. Whatever, redheads are top tier anyways.
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>>50691607
IHNMAIMS? That's a new one for me, and Google does nothing. Unless it's this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream_(video_game)
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>>50705489
If this guy honestly made a game about femdom and inanimate TF I'd probably be for playing a oneshot ERP of it at least, I could also sorta tolerate mixing in his political beliefs in his fapfiction setting as long as it took a backseat, but this all comes off as WAY too far, like those poor fuckers who seem to define themselves by their /pol/ and/or SJW shit
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>>50705868
The short story the game is based on is exactly what I was referring too.
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>>50705917
>If this guy honestly made a game about femdom and inanimate TF
Witch Girls Adventures can still work for that from what I've heard
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>>50701191
I would be willing to play a regular chick who's just wondering what the fuck these batshit crazy fucks are doing in her gender.

how would you kick their asses though? lots of guns? getting women who do have magical powers on your side and actually aren't insane misandrist sadists fighting the crazies for you?
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>>50706018
Eh, point I suppose
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>>50686975
Are they the same ones who made witchgirls?
I figured they quit after it failed or something
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>>50705868
Yep, it's it, because the game is even more about torture porn than the original story.
Either way, it has one of the most famous endings, since it's in the title.
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>>50706713
>Failed
I guess you overestimate costs of making such game and underestimate profit generated by selling them, but mostly greatly underestimate the power of doing stupid shit that everyone then talks about.
The game had pretty much free promition due to the mini-scandal it created, with a lot of people buying it just to see how bad it is. Instead of being a niche game and failed broad project, it turned into two niches, meaning making enough cash to turn meaningful profit.

And the creators still mostly live from making porn, so it's not like they care, really
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>>50706042
>how would you kick their asses though?
Less "kick their asses" and more "avoid horrible death". As for the how, there could be a few folk charms that deal with magic, someone might have a minor supernatural ability, taking advantage of how short-sighted they are when fighting their enemies.
>lots of guns?
Those too, probably. Not very likely to work more than a few times, though.
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>>50694598
These can't be from Cthulhutech, the art style is nothing like the one I remember for it
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>>50708906

Shit man, magic users are easy to kill. Just use gas. They can't cast against what they don't know is there.
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>>50705917
This is worse than typical trash like Racial Holy War because at least they had the decency to keep their kinks out of their genocide fantasy.

With this you've got the genocide fantasy but also all of the murder is creepy magical torture shit. It's like they've doubled down on being degenerates without even realizing it.
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>>50713760
>without even realizing it
>Implying this wasn't intentional
Anon, the entire POINT of making the game was to make something with creepy magical torture shit. Adding genocide fantasy was just a logical conclusion of making entire setting about amoral misanthropists with unlimited magical powers.
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>>50714332
I don't believe that someone could realize that this is what they were doing without stopping themselves.
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>>50714482
Anon, the creators are people who worked and still work in porn industry, cathering for /d/ crowd. It's a fucking common knowledge on /tg/. So I'm not sure why you are surprised or baffled.
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>>50701191
You don't even have a choice, m8. You're locked into one faction depending on your gender.
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>>50714573
I think he's surprised at the fact that someone thought "I'm going to make an RPG featuring obvious transforming torture fetish imagery themed around the most hardcore views of Tumblr brand feminazism" and nobody stopped him.
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>>50714920
I am confused that somebody was able to make that without their brain kicking in and telling them to stop.
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>>50714965
So you are basically surprised people can make a living on delivering content like that and sleep at night?
My sweet summer child...

But just to make it less shocking for you - people delivering stuff A for target group A' are rarely into stuff A or part of the group A'. They just make a living by providing for specific demand, rather than providing for themselves.
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>>50712463
GAS GAS GAS
I'M GOING TO PUT ON THE GAS
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>>50714965
>>50714994
To reitterate - for example people doing furry gay porn are very rarely furfags themselves. But if it pays so much cash, then why not?

Talking from experience, one of my flatmates was a guy with art degree, making his entire living by drawing furry porn. And he was absolutely normal person, not even interested in the slightest in this stuff. But when you got paid 100 bucks for a simple sketch and meanwhile can barely find a contract to not live under a bridge...
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>>50714833
Actually no. The protagonists aren't supposed to automatically hate all men. One of the "classes" is specifically given the magical ability to tell if a man is abusive to his wife and children; if it comes up negative, I don't think they're supposed to attack the guy anyway.
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>>50699730
I'm pretty sure people of all political persuasions can realize that it's hamhanded misandrist wish fulfillment.
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>>50715092
Do remember this is Tumblr brand feminazism. If I look at woman I'm raping her.

What prevents me from fighting back, though? I'll lose, but the thought still counts.
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>>50715613
The entire premise is that you are a pathetic human waste and won't even fight back, because deep down you are a coward and a piece of filth.
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>>50715613
>posts fact about the actual game
>"You're forgetting about my preconceived victim complex."
No, I'm disproving it.
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>>50713760
>This is worse than typical trash like Racial Holy War because at least they had the decency to keep their kinks out of their genocide fantasy.
>With this you've got the genocide fantasy but also all of the murder is creepy magical torture shit. It's like they've doubled down on being degenerates without even realizing it.
Thing is, I could stomach that as long as the genocide fantasy was presented as an aspect of the fetish (and said fetish was reasonably hot EX something along the lines of all amazon tribe of orcs coming to conquer your nation and/or snu snu every man to death), it's the level of obsession about both the fetish and the genocide though that creeps me out

>>50714482
I repeat my line about those poor bastards who obsess over their cause to the point they build their whole life around it

>>50714994
>>50715031
>But just to make it less shocking for you - people delivering stuff A for target group A' are rarely into stuff A or part of the group A'. They just make a living by providing for specific demand, rather than providing for themselves.
Given the history behind those who made this, I'm pretty sure they are part of group A
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>>50718994
>genocide
>genocide
>genocide
You're oddly fond of that word.
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>>50719035
I'm operating under ~3-4 hours of sleep and having trouble to think of a better word that covers hatred/blame/desire to subjugate or exterminat one group
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>>50719068
No, it's pretty clear what you meant. It's not a bad choice of words. It's a good word for a bad lie.
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>>50719098
Okay, not sure why you pointed that out then, probably will after some sleep
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>>50705607
>I have neither extreme political views (I'm a classical liberal) or extreme fetishes (I like redheads and also women with small boobs)
To modern liberals you're a transfobic nazi.
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>>50722716
Since when American liberals constitute for the image of all liberals?
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