Why does Wizards give superfriends so much support? Don't

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don't play a format where superfriends is dominant?

>>50643827
>most expensive
This is the whole point, if they make all the tournament staple cards mythic then they get to sell more packs, both to retailers who need to open product to sell singles and to idiots who try to play the mythic lottery by buying sealed product.

WotC only cares about what makes it the most money

>>50643827
But anon, that doesn't really help superfriends that much. Sure, a 4/4 flying vigilance for 2 seems spicy, until you realize that any 3 drop walker is going to be super vulnerable missing a counter, and all the bigger walkers effectively render this thing a niche t5/6 play.

If it gave more loyalty counters, you'd have something to bitch about. This is a $2 mythic, unless standard revolves around it for some reason.

>>50644120
You aren't going to pop counters off a 3-drop walker to attack with this thing. You simply threaten to block with it. A walker with two counters on it IS super vulnerable, but if your opponent is about to hit it with a 3/X dude then being alive and vulnerable is a lot better than being dead.

>>50643827
Remember when Mythics weren't supposed to be staples?

>>50644253
>You simply threaten to block with it
Which is why you swing with more than one dude. You swing with 2 2/2 creatures, and then you instagib the stupid walker that you needed to take a counter off of.

It's marginally better because you can +X your walker before you take the counters off, but that's still not justification to run it, or spend more than $2 on it.

>>50644000
Standard attendance was way down during Khans/Battle block, when everyone was 4 colors and fetchlands were everywhere. People just didn't want to fork over $500-600 to compete

>>50643827
>most expensive

Anon, that's on purpose.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/how-wizards-manages-its-savings-account

>>50644928
And what if you're not playing an aggro deck? "Hit them with 2 dudes with 2 power on turn 3" is not something that many decks can do. Particularly if one of them has -2/-1.

>>50643827
>Don't they realize that a superfriends deck is probably one of the most expensive
I wonder why they love them so much.

>>50644524
The first set with mythics had Elspeth, Knight-Errant.
That shit was never true.

>>50643827
Because fucking everything is about these shitty 5 planeswalkers.

Why do we not care about the actual worlds now? Why are the planes now just backdrops for the walkers to take selfies in front of?

>>50647363
Hm your post is what's not true, the first mythics were the Lorwyn 5.

>>50647477
Is that how you feel because there's some main characters now? I'm glad I'm not as emotionally fragile as you.

>>50647745
The lorwyn walkers were rare, mythics where introduced in a later set

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>>50647745
Wrong, mythics didn't happen until Alara. The lorwyn five got retconned into being mythic after their reprints.

>>50647768
Glissa, Toshiro, Kos, and Rhys want to have a word with you.

>>50647363
That just shows that they've been lying from the start.

Why didn't you listen to /pol/ about the Jews?

>>50643896
Pauper isn't a recognized format, anon.

>>50648006
Then why is it supported on mtgo and why does it have an official ban list from wotc?

>>50648213
>Mgto
Same reason why EDH sorry, I mean Commander is supported by wizard. Money.

>>50648213
If I can't play it at a sanctioned event, it's not recognized.

>>50649326
You can play it at a sanctioned event. WotC allowed Friday Night Magic to be any format back in 2014.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptktk/friday-night-magic-changes-2014-10-14

>>50647768
I'm more annoyed we probably won't get to see much of Yahenni after Kaladesh block is over. They're one of the best black characters wizards has made, and we're just going to leave them behind, probably to die.

>>50651717
the portal mcguffin could be used to connect the multiverse and allow inter dimensional travel and then they could become a reoccuring character

>>50652090
you mean the portal mcguffin that tezzeret stole and will be using in Amonkhet to enable the Phyrexians to compleate more planes?

>>50644524
>>50647363
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/the-changing-definition-of-mythic-rare

Alternatively, you could play good games and avoid this issue.

>>50652267
>implying I play mtg anymore
I just shitpost because I hate what it became.

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>>50652288

>>50652267
>card quality is motivated by Wizards making money
>this automatically makes MtG a bad game

you're right, we should play all those other games made by companies NOT motivated to make money

>>50652232
Tezz doesn't like, or work for, Phyrexians, who outright rejected him.

>>50652267
Problem is, I enjoy magic a great deal, more than other games. It's just design and MaRo that wants to change that.

>>50652090
That, or they could drain a planeswalker and gain their spark (in theory at least, their card is a creature, so we can't be sure if it happens.) A spark might also fix those unfortunate lifespan issues, since they've already shown extreme aversion to draining people just to live.

>Standard
>Constructed in general

The light is cube drafting, anon.

>>50652773
If they sell a balanced game for money they desserve it.
If they make sure only one card is worth playing each set, and that card is a mythic for the explicit purpose of selling more boosters. They're shit and should be called out for it.

>>50652950
It's mostly MaRo. The sets where Ken or Rick were at the helm were infinitely better than any MaRo shitshow. He genuinely dislikes it when Magic is fun and giggles like a little girl at creature-clogged boards with 100+ life totals..

>>50653579
Which sets were those?

>>50653490
Well, looking at what actually sees play, there's a fairly low portion of mythics for standard. If we move to modern, the number of mythics from recent sets (as a portion of the cards from those sets that see play) is astoundingly low. In fact, the number of mythics that see play in modern in general is quite low. That is, of course, helped by the fact that a large portion of its cardpool is pre-mythic, but even with more recent sets, there are commons that have as much or more impact than any mythic (see: Insolent Neonate and Cathartic Reunion bringing Dredge back to life)

>>50653918
Basically the entire Delirium list is Mythic, I'm not really sure how well that holds up.

>>50653721
Garfield led Innistrad, Nagle led New Phyrexia and Return to Ravnica, Forsythe led M10
Save for Khans of Tarkir 4/5 of the best post-NWO sets were not led by MaRo's neurotic anti-fun.

>>50653970
I would note that MaRo was lead design on Innistrad, and he has said he considers original Innistrad to be one of his best sets ever, so make of that what you will.

>>50653918
If you don't play Gideon, Liliana, Grim Flayer, Ishkana or Emrakul, you can't win in Standard.
It doesn't matter that most of the deck is commons, of course most of the deck is commons since basic lands are common.

The problem is the last time a deck won without mythics was Mono Black Devotion and MaRo absolutely hated it.

>>50644928

If you assume that your opponent has more attacks than you can pony up blockers, why did you bother playing a PW in the first place?

>>50654027
In name only because Garfield was a "consultant". Rick's lectures on game design evidence he didn't care much about the flavor but was the mastermind behind the mechanics and balance while MaRo was putting red abilities on blue chinese-american fatties because he "didn't think Snapcaster could and should have been red at the moment".

>>50654037
I will grant you that it is difficult to have a top level standard deck that has literally no mythics. That would be kind of against the point of having mythics. On the other hand, even mythic-heavy decks like Delirium don't just run down the list of mythics in their colors and throw them all in. Mythics are, by definition, splashy, high-impact cards. Does this include cards that can define a whole season of Standard? Of course. Would it suck if none of the mythics in a set were particularly playable? Also yes.

>>50654097
Balance is development's job, not design's. The mechanics of Innistrad were entirely dependant on and drawn from the flavor; it was explicitly a "top-down" design. I think you just don't want to admit that MaRo could have an actual hand in anything you like because you're invested in him being a boogeyman.

>>50654037
>If you don't play Gideon, Liliana, Grim Flayer, Ishkana or Emrakul, you can't win in Standard.
As a player who created a deck that, at peak efficiency, can sometimes go to game 3 against Gideon or Lili if I'm lucky, this is physically painful to read.

>>50654282
>even mythic-heavy decks like Delirium don't just run down the list of mythics in their colors and throw them all in
That's literally what they do, though.

>>50654340
Everyone but MaRo puts Innistrad's success on Garfield's hands.
And MaRo calls Force of Will one of "his designs" even though all he did was name it. So I don't believe in shit he says.

>>50654282
You don't seem to understand.
Opening a specific mythic takes aprox. 110 boosters.
If 13/15 of a set's mythics are splashy Commander crap but two of them are the absolute Standard staples of the season. WotC has instantly sold 440 boosters just to outfit ONE player with one set of the 3-4 sets of mythics he absolutely needs to run in order to even have a chance at winning.

It's in their best interest for there to be only two competitive decks, and for those decks to use 3-4 mythics from different sets because it keeps SCG, CFB, T&T, Card Kingdom, etc. opening boosters like retards to fullfil their presales, and idiots at Wal Mart, Target or the LGS playing the booster lottery.

>>50654663
Just to further add onto this argument, in an effort to get Standard numbers up, Wizards has had to release packs that contain exclusively rare and mythic cards (and one foil that's always a white common for some stupid reason) because players are starting to get wise to their bullshit.

>>50655444
>STOP GIVING ME FREEBIES WIJJARDSSSS RRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50655508
That's what you got from that?

>>50643827
don't worry anon, just use all the good standard burn to take out superfrien-

>incendiary flow is the best burn card in standard

fuck this game

>>50655508
They stopped giving freebies. Remember player rewards? I miss my free full art foil damnations and full art playable commons/uncommons coming in the mail three times a year at no expense to me beyond my normal playing habits.

>>50655611
but you can fragmentize for 1 white!

>>50655710
My last one is that creepy Sign in Blood.

>>50655710
>The texless promo
I still hate them for stopping that.

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>>50655755
>mfw ive only played 3 prerelease events and no fnms it because there is no reason to go play magic when you have a playgroup

>>50655839
I did go to FNM when the promo interested me. But I didn't keep up after it started being more and more standard fodder.

>>50655872
Yeah, can't understand why wizards don't give more good promos. FNMs were jampacked when Serum Visions was the promo.
I also still remembered when Restoration Angel was the release party reward. Nonstop drafting from morning to midnight.

>>50655872
I've been playing for a year and its sad that all I see when I see fnm is a big fucking money pit because wotc wont give my lgs prize support that they promise players. Also some of my favorite cards in my collection are textless full art cards so I would play standard if that kind of shit was available.

>>50643827
Is this the card that finally makes Tibalt viable?

>>50656046
>2 drop car
>2 drop walker
not even close, this is for 3 drop walkers

>>50656098
>what are 1 drops

>>50656128
deathrite shaman doesnt have loyalty counters, this doesnt incentivize the random discard and jace's phantasm is better than tibalt for activating this card. L2p

>>50656046
Madness creatures make Tibalt usable. Either way, his minus abilities are so good that in some (not tier 1) decks it is worth the cost.

>>50656098
does this mean saheeli rae is standard viable?

>have saheeli rae with 4+ counters
>remove counter from saheeli to crew heart
>-2 saheeli to copy heart with haste
>remove another counter to crew copy

>>50656128
Can you give me an example of a one mana planeswalker?

>>50656817
More like Gideon's Flagship.

>-1 Gideon crew Heart
>+1 Gideon jumped down and become 5/5 indestructible

>>50656817
I would love it if my opponent did that>>50656817

>>50656845
you mean
>play boat
>turn
>play gideon, pump and crew
>pass after beating that ass
>they hit you, crew again if needed
>repeat
>when gideon is at 6 ult and use your creatures to crew the boat
>gideon is now president

>>50656817
Sweet, my opponent jebds up with a single 2/2, and no planeswalker

>>50654577
Citation needed for both of those.

Are there people thinking that this game will ever be good again with the creature powercreep on the rise?

Delete plainswalker, make creatures bad again and then maybe.

>>50658879
>6/11 printed in green for 5 printed in soi
>all the c16 commanders are all 4 mana and bigger than 4/4 with many abilities
No anon, creatures will be the best forever now
unless they printed a fixed alpha 5, a new charm cycle, two new command cycles, and a cycle of 4-7 cost sorceries that gave emblems on cast in addition to their other effects that are on par with sorceries from the past that used to be 7-9 cost

>>50658971
>all c16 commander are bigger than 4/4s for 4
nigga you need to know what you are saying
They are 4/4s,for 4 of every fucking color of mana minus 1. And Saskia is only a 3/4. Ydris is the only 5/4. They are not unbalanced because it takes serious fucking fixing to cast them.

Ok, Atraxa is probably overpowered, but apart from her.

>>50659245
>breya is a 6/6 with flying

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>>50659260
>only 2 of her 6/6 has flying
>she's still 4 color
C'mon, have you SEEN spiritmonger?

>>50658879

I'm fine with good creatures, as long as there are good playable answers to them.

Planeswalkers do need more answers though in a few different colours. Blue can counter them, black can target and destroy them, white can prevent them from activating abilities, red can just redirect burn to them or burn directly, green generally just gets HUGE and beats them all down. I mean current Standard answers to them are ok but then a rotation happens and then they're super good again.

>>50659301
They're all broken because they're 4 color. If you have the money the mana fixing on every single one of these cards is easy. Hell they just reprinted prophetic prism, the sigils, and the checklands recently.

>>50643827
The Jacestice league needs to be the face of the game, and viable in every format, MaRo even said that everyone loves this years late avengers ripoff, and he wouldn't lie.

Which combination of characters would be your perfect Gatewatch? Make sure that all colors are at least somewhat represented and that no obvious villains such as Ob are part of it.

>>50659695
Get rid of jace gideon and liliana to give them a break, kill nissa and chandra. Replace everyone with tamiyo's orgy squad trying to save elspeth from theros. Then dack fayden can come back and when you revisit the gatewatch they can replace chandra with ral'zarek and nissa with garruk

I don't understand what 2 set blocks are achieving in terms of storytelling. All that's happening is Magic's story is turning into a theme park where you move from one zone to the next because if you stayed in one too long you'd see how boring it is.

>>50659804
>I don't understand what 2 set blocks are achieving in terms of storytelling

...nothing?

Two set blocks have nothing to do with improving the story.

>>50659871
Wizards think their players are a bunch of children with ADHD who need lots of different planes as fast as possible to remain interested. I think they gave some asinine reason along the lines of not having to save mechanics until the last set which means they would only be in standard 18 months while at the same time changing standard to rotate every 18 months. This also implied that their mechanics were worth caring about, which is VERY rarely the case. Which guild had the best mechanic in Return to Ravnica? That's right, none of them because they were all shit.

Prerelease kit for 25$?
Y/N?

>>50660293
If so, EMN or KLD?

>>50654097
>red abilities on blue chinese-american fatties
Holy fucking shit let it go already. Snapcaster should be black because Yawgmoth's Will if you're going to keep insisting it not be blue

>>50660864
Never. You know it be true anon, even if you hear it a lot.

>>50660976
>What's the color that cares most about instants and sorceries
Blue
>What's the color that primarily has flash creatures
Blue

I don;t see how anyone could possibly think that just because Recoup was printed once and barely does a third of what Snapcaster does, that alone is reason enough to want it to be red.

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>>50660293
>>50660642
Bump

>>50660293
>>50661200
Just count for yourself whether 6 boosters and one random foil rare is worth it. Personally i think it's a bit expensive, would take it for 20.

Still waiting for some planeswalker hate. Fuck those cocksuckers

>>50662012
Planeswalkers were a mistake.

>>50662012
You have to play black to either ruinous path them, to the slaughter them, or use transgress the mind or lost legacy to get rid of them outright before they go off.

>>50644120
This is not a card for superfriends. This is Copter 5 and 6 for Mardu Vehicles. The loyalty counter crew cost is for Johnnies

For me, as a former player who left when Time Spiral came out, one of the worst parts of the game now is the increasing number of mechanics over the years.
New set, new mechanics^x
The new ones barely get revisited in further sets because of planar lore or some shit, and instead they come up with even dumber mechanics each time

>>50662012
'Exile target planeswalker' should be included at either the one drop slots in white or black, 'destroy' at one drop in red or green, and 'put on the bottom of owner's library' in blue at two drop.

It should also come included with many, many other spells.

>>50643827
What format are you playing where Superfriends is even a deck, let alone dominant? I can't think of a deck in any major format that consistently runs more than 6 (that's 6 total, not 6x4) Planeswalkers.

>>50659345
Have fun losing to Blood Moon/Back to Basics/Ruination.

>>50662012
There's plenty of hate, you just need to get better at the game.

>>50662193
Or play blue to counterspell them, red to burn them directly, or green to attack them with efficient creatures, or white to exile them entirely.

But really, you shouldn't say "play X color", you should look at the decks in the format and see how they're dealt with. At least, if you're talking about Standard.

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>>50661822
Which set would you prefer though? EMN with the foil zombie-token or Kaladesh with more chance for the inventions/better average rares?

>Why does Wizards give superfriends so much support?
> a superfriends deck is probably one of the most expensive

when you answer your own question

>>50662841
I'd go with KLD if you play standard due to the later rotation, and EMN if you plan to play modern due to the chance of playable mythics.
I don't ever buy booster packs though, so I have no idea what is a good criteria.

>>50660134

No, they think that they were continually unable to make 3 appealing sets so they cut it down to 2.

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>>50656824

>>50644524
>Remember when Mythics weren't supposed to be staples?
No.

Remember when mythics were actually good?

>>50656824

Not that anon but Kytheon.

>>50658592
MaRo's tumblr and Forsythe/Stoddard's twitters.

>>50658879
The creature power-creep doesn't make me think Magic is near it's death. Magic Digital Next does.
The new CEO wants an eSport and is willing to sacrifice the collectors and pros to get it.

>>50659664
He has unapologetically admitted that half his job is lying or purposedly giving false information in blogatog.