/swg/: Star Wars General: Never Mind the Bollux, Here's

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Anyone have some spicy SW reaction images?

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Ah out of production droids, I love the CZ communications droid (And most Serv-O-Droid products) Did you know the CZ in ANH was built out of rejected parts for a Darth Vader costume?

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>>50640654
I had an idea for a character/NPC that bought up old Serv-O-Droid and Leisuremech patents and is starting to make a comeback with a few factories and workshops.

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>>50640681
Serv-O-Droid, maker of the coolest stuff.

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>>50640853

Whats the context for this, and why do I love it?

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>>50640804

>>50640870
I hate to say that I've kinda forgotten about the context and where it's from.
All i remember is that its from a comic story timed on /co/.

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Publitechnic makes some cool shit too, like a droid-vehicle hybrid streetsweeper/garage.

ffgrpg: how do i play shards? how do i play a Human replica droid? How do i play a shard with a Human replica droid body?

>>50640915

>Something in Star Wars with an actual guardrail

What madness is this?

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This droid is the cheapest fucking super skilled combat-capable droid out there.

How the fuck do i beat jake farell (vi+ptl+prokets+guid/autothrusters+test pilot) as a scum pilot?

>>50641063
Gee I dunno maybe any combination of two to three extremely broken scum ships with Mindlink?

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Here's a cool thing I found.

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These droids are hilariously well armed.

>>50641470

"You can't just respond to intruders with finger guns!"
"Thats where you're wrong, kiddo!"

>>50640895
It's from the new Darth Vader Marvel run, the same one that brought us "All I am surrounded by is fear and dead men."

They're kind of great, that page is from issue one, Vader used the astromech to frame a snoop that Targie had forced on him. The only loose end is the droid to obligingly takes care of itself.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ugnaught_Surface

Okay I really should have gotten Star Wars: Uprising while it was still available, if they recannonized this silly thing they really musta made it as more than a shitty mobile game cash-in.

>>50641182
Gib list please.

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>>50640648

>>50641928
Protectorate starfighter, Jumpmaster, Shadow Caster

>>50642072

Yeah, if you can get Asajj's mobile arc in range 2 of Jake he's fucked. Plus, since Jake will be pushing the limit all the time, tossing in Letts Razzi on the Shadow Caster makes it basically immune to Jake once his prockets are gone.

Meanwhile, he's got to dogfight against a PS9 Fenn Rau, whilst trying to avoid aforementioned Mobile Arc, and if he ever get's into a situation where he can use his Prockets on Fen, the odds are pretty decent that Fenns going to get 4 Evade dice + 1 free Evade.

Then you have a low PS Scyk with an Ion Cannon or something to block Jake.

Alternatively, the infamous Dengaroo is still lethal and unnerfed.

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MTT sized plasma howitzers, the ultimate surface-to-surface "Fuck you."

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>>50640618

Aside from homebrewing fighter combat rules, what's the secret to running a great squadron-based campaign?

>>50643880
Use Squads/Squadron rules from AoR's GM kit. They work exceptionally well for TIE pilots, since they're meant to blow up by the hundred while the truly skilled survive.

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>>50643880
Brush up on required reading/viewing/gaming. And do try to put together a good music playlist to set the mood if your players are into that.

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I fucking love the multishot grenade attachment.

>>50642109
Mind link is too fragile, dont do it

>>50645158

I wasn't suggesting Mind Link. The other guy did.
I;m the one trying to encourage awareness of just how damn ridiculously tanky Assaj Ventriss with PTL and Letts Razzi is.

>>50645158
Attani Mindlink has virtually 100% representation in all Scum winning regional lists which are also the most numerous of any faction.

>>50642109
I played against basically exactly this list the other day though with manaroo instead of a scyk. It beat me pretty handily though I don't know if that was because of the list or because I was rolling dogshit. It seemed really good though.

>>50645668

I wouldn't have thought there would be enough points for a Manaroo in that list. He must have been skimping something fierce on his Shadow Caster and Fenn Rau builds to afford a proper Manaroo.

>>50645488
It solves a lot of problems for a low cost, with a drawback that can be mitigated through skilled flying.

>>50645733
I'm not 100% on it but yeah I think Manaroo had just the mindlink, Asaaj had just link and Latts and Fenn had just link, title and autothrusters.

>>50645488
That's wrong though, Dengaroo and triple ace are the major regional scum lists. Listen, if you like mindlink, play it, but it can be a major problem if Assaj or stressbot come into play

>>50646159
Fenn Rau, Assaj and Manaroo is what's getting the most results and they're all mindlinked.

Hell even a list of three G1-As and a Z-95 with links managed to win a regional.

>>50646159
>it can be a major problem if Assaj or stressbot come into play

Only if you're bad. Only 1 stress spreads through and 1 stress is easy to clear. Hell, a ship infinitely stressed still gets tokens thanks to his mindlink bros.

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**AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA**

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>>50648577
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Which of the new-canon books does /tg/ recommend? I just finished Tarkin, and loved it. Any others?

>>50649340
Check out Catalyst, Lost Stars, and Lords of the Sith. A New Dawn and Twilight Company are fine as well.

>>50649340
Lucernos books are well made. The aftermath is pure cringe though im really disapointed after reading tarkin and cataclist.

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Is the NuThrawn book out yet?
I want to catch up on muh blueberry husbando.

>>50649651

April 2017, mate.

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>>50649704
Well that's plenty of time to binge all of Clone Wars and Rebels while I wait.

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>>50649725
>Dat watermark on the top left
I don't remember TORtanic having lingerie that delicious.

>>50643880
Having them fly Yellow Squadron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2e3gExPJos

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>>50649855
At this point, Disney really should think about altering the exclusivity deal with EA.

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>>50649340
What are your guys' thoughts on the Tarkin novel? It's been a very long time since I've read any Star Wars books but I've always liked Tarkin and I'm somewhat interested.

>>50650930
It can get a little dry, but it's not bad at all. Catalyst fixes the dry problems with him. So read both and you'll have a good time.

>shipfag says he'll make some stats for this ship i've given players in this game i'm running, a week ago
>says he'll make the stats by saturday
>game is tonight, he hasn't made the stats
>me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYZoxY3sawE

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>>50650930
I thought it was pretty good. Gives a lot of background to Tarkin's character. The actual plot is of relatively no consequence, but the writing is good, and the characterization and perspective are great. It reads like playing Crusader Kings or Europa Universalis feels.

>>50651237 is right, though. It is fairly dry reading, if you're not into that sort of thing.

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>>50649994
Disney just needs to pull a vader

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>>50651365

Asked for Striker and v/1 stats too. Guess he forgot about me ;-;

>>50649776
they had to less than non-lewd things to keep the playerbase around

speaking of playerbases ive actually really been enjoying nubattlefront more and more these days, if nothing else but for the space battles, but how long do you guys think the playerbase will stick around?

>>50649340

Bloodline is a must. Not only has Claudia Gray proven to be by far the best nucanon writer as of yet but it's also a good lead-in to the state of the galaxy in VII.

Plus, the plot can pretty much be described as 'Leia gets sick of everyone's bullshit and decides to get shit done herself' which is always worth reading imo.

>>50652306

Well, EA's gonna do a sequel next year, so that'll probably cause some migration.

Especially if they decide not to do a season pass thing like was talked about in some recent releases. Supposedly they really are trying to change their image and be "players first".

>>50652363
>two Battlefront 2s
That's going to get confusing fast.

>>50652424
I'm sure it will have a subtitle and not just be Battlefront 2.

Of course, they could literally call it Battlefront 2, as "technically" the other one is Battlefront II. Trademarks and copyrights can be funny that way.

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>>50652363

that sounds good

to be fair on EA, i dont like them schlonging my battlefront with DLC ethier but they've been pretty good this time around. Hell you can pick up the season pass for $22 now on origin and i give them credit for at-least offering trial weekends for the DLC

its not perfect but its alot more consumer friendly than other games with season passes and copious amounts of DLC


>>50652424

>implying they wont call it Battlefront: Resurgence or some other dumb subtitle

This makes me think too, what is Battlefront 2's setting going to be? They managed to milk the OT pretty dry within 3 dlcs packs and i think we will see Pandemic Studios make a comeback before disney apporves a prequel triology battlefront

it is confirmed to have a story campaign and the whole point of the first (EA) battlefront's release was to capitlaize on the new star wars movie so i wont be too shocked if its and actual first order V Reistance affiar.

But then again, that would require somebody at Dice doing the amount of world building that the original battlefront 2 did, maybe more

Or they will just re-texture Imperial assets with white streaks for the First Order

>>50652424

Yeah, no shit. I wonder if EA gets the irony.

Or maybe they'll be smart and like, give it a subtitle or something. Because I'm pretty sure the original BF/BFII are available on Steam.

>>50652534
>what is Battlefront 2's setting going to be?

Supposedly, early talks were that it was literally just going to cover TFA. It might cover a bit more now, but if we're lucky (spoiler: we aren't) it'll actually cover all the movies.

>>50652534

The most recent hinting was that it would probably be vignettes like Battlefield One, and actually that it might cover new ground and not tread the same ground they did in the first EAfront - but that might just mean only on new maps, not that their current round of maps might not be included also.

Also, bring back Galactic Conquest.

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>>50652546
>Because I'm pretty sure the original BF/BFII are available on Steam

yes but not on EA's platform origin, infact the last EA game that anyone gave a shit about to sell on steam was bad company i believe

and the funny thing is that the original battlefront 1 isnt on steam and 2 is for some reason, even though steam has a bad habbit of ripping the BF1 cover art for shit like May the 4th sales

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>>50652534
>milk the OT dry
That hasn't stopped Star Wars game devs from doing it over and over. It also hasn't stopped Koei Tecmo from milking Romance of the Three Kingdoms, or Bandai/Sunrise from milking the One-Year War, or Hollywood from milking the superhero origin story.

I'm praying that DICE still has people sane and competent enough to realize that Bad Company 2's formula was already nearly perfect. Reskin Bad Company 2, throw in a Space Vietnam expansion, and unfuck the flight controls.

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>>50652672
>That hasn't stopped Star Wars game devs from doing it over and over.

Well for atleast Battlefront's format its been milked dry, shit OT era star wars is big enough to make 100 games. But for atleast how these games are made- its meant to take place within the OT movies and i think Dice has literally ran out of screen time


>I'm praying that DICE still has people sane and competent enough to realize that Bad Company 2's formula was already nearly perfect. Reskin Bad Company 2, throw in a Space Vietnam expansion, and unfuck the flight controls.

Shit man i would go abit further. Maybe asymmetrically balance it, introduce alot more vehicles, make combat alot more realistic and focused on combined arms


As for the flight controls, are you playing on console? Because even a flight simulator casual like myself can run circles around 90% of other pilots in pic related pulling the most basic of maneuvers

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>>50652797
>Asymmetrical balancing, a la Rising Storm
>More vehicles, including OC like proper fucking MBTs
>More guns, featuring consultant work by Ian from Forgotten Weapons
>Radio Surf

Also, I've played on both PC (my own) and console (a friend's). Not a fan of DICE's flight controls. I've been spoiled by other flight games. Rogue Squadron, Ace Combat, and the Wing Commander games just felt so tight and perfect compared to BF.

Did COMPNOR have their own uniforms/uniform color?

The ISB, part of COMPNOR, uses white, gray, or black (depending, maybe, on one's role/position/rank?).

The Imperial Press Corps, part of the Ministry of Information, which is within the Coalition for Progress, a part of COMPNOR, apparently has lighter blue-gray uniforms.

I think it would be reasonable that there would be some marking, whether the uniform color or some other denotation, between COMPNOR and the Imperial Army/Navy/whatever. So do they?

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>>50651365
Shit,I thought you said the game was on monday, sorry man.I had a bunch of work this week on account of the christmas rush so didn't have time until this weekend, and when that happened, my computer finally packed it in yesterday so I was a bit busy
Good news, though, your requested stats for both the duplex gunship and my homebrewed ex-stealth ship are attached to this post, hopefully it's not too late
>>50651962
I've just been busy, too. sorry. those will be up in literally the next 10 minutes, I have to recreate them but it should be fine

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>>50652928
>>More guns, featuring consultant work by Ian from Forgotten Weapons

shit man, why not. All the battlefront DLC guns follow the same theme of space military surplus anyways. Only of the new pistols is literally a luger with a grey cylinder attachment

>>50653009

Ausfag, so i'm 17 hours into your future. Thanks for the stats, you're just-in-time.

Probably going to force choke you to death regardless though.

How much should a roll handle? New to FF SW and I feel I'm making my players roll too often. During a social encounter, I feel I just made them roll too often. Like, maybe I should have made them just do one deception check for all the questions the imperial port guards asked them instead of individually. Any advice?

>>50653225

I tend to downplay dice rolling, especially with hard failure states, because iterative probability is a bitch. I also assume success in checks where they are very likely to succeed without rolls needed. I'm mostly on the far side of that divide though.

I generally try to parse rolls in terms of 'how much story is there per roll'? And 'how often has X rolled, compared to Y'? Not that X needs to roll just as often as Y does - some people are okay not rolling at all and some people really want to be rolling all the time. Just a thing to keep in mind when GMing, and generally fairly easy to work out once you're thinking of it.

>>50653063
>Ausfag, so i'm 17 hours into your future.
that''d do it
>>50653063
>Probably going to force choke you to death regardless though.
good luck getting here, you'll freeze to death before you hit the first marker

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>>50653052
I'd like to see more obscure shit, as well as weapons from other time periods get blasterized.
>Owen Gun
>Madsen
>Breda modello 30
>M50 Reising
>AR-18
>M16A2
>Colt Defender shotgun
>Kraut Space Magic G11
>All the funky-looking Italian SMGs from World War II
>These fucking things
My dick would be diamonds.

>>50653347
Bottom right already has potential

>>50653347
I'm telling you, the Bren would make a perfect blaster, you only have to remove the magazine

>>50653347
The P90 would make such a good blaster.

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>>50653347

Reminds me how I discovered yesterday that the CR-2 Heavy Blaster Pistol is literally just a Calico with a scope and secondary grip glued onto it.

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>>50652937
Compnor are the same as the standard military uniform and ranks with the exception that they have black trousers.

>>50653225
I tend to be lighter on rolls, higher on dialogue and description, some groups do like the roll more dice if they just want to quickly resolve something without as much talking. If a player comes up with a good line of dialogue for a social encounter and I think they've either been convincing enough to see that section through to conclusion, not even gunna roll if its within what I think the character is capable of. At worst I'd probably throw in some decent upgrades or blue dice if the successes and advantage matters for information gathering.
Sometimes when you've got players from a system that needs rolling for everything it can be hard to just 'man, tell me what you want to do before throwing dice!' and knock it out of them, eventually

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>>50653052
Slightly longer barrel with a flash suppressor off a bren and an offset scope, loaded with tracers I'd totally plink my way into the space age with a Whitney
>everything I want to do is horribly illegal

>>50653284
Good advice! Been a long time since I GMed and it's been rocky getting back in.

Here is another question. So, in today's session, my group went to a planet to get supplies for their rebel base. They went through some hoops with Imps, but convinced them to let them go. The local authorities, who were made clear to be incompetent.

Three weeks ago, they had stole an imperial prototype in the area and they were warned the sector might be on alert.

Right after they payed bail and were on their way out, a moff flanked by stormtrooper showed up and was all like "we've been searching this area for rebel activity. When I heard last night that rebels were spotted here, I came personally. I disagree with the assertion of the local government that you were just 'people trying to avoid the charge for an inn by impersonating imperials' and I want to interogate you personally."

To explain a little more, they were told there was a curfew and they had two hours to get inside or go to jail. They ended up wasting time and got stuck in an inn charging outrageous prices and threaning to throw them out. So, they used the fact creditnels they were given to invade the base to steal the prototype three weeks ago to trick the guy and get in. Due to them getting threat on a check at port, they were being followed by an imp spy who reported this. This is what made me think a moff would get involved, especially since the project was this moff's pet.

I don't know, did I railroad them with this? I ended there on a cliffhanger. They can totally just run onto the ship, fly off, and try to evade his capital ship. Or go with him and be interrogate. Is it a railroad if both options seem risky as fuck?

>>50653693
For the record, I spent a dark side point before the moff arrived and I had like 7 at the time because the players weren't using them.

>>50653886
Sorry, meant to say because they used them too much too quickly.

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On an unrelated note, playing with the idea of writing a /swg/ Holiday Special piece. Good idea or get back to work on existing writefaggotry?

>>50653995
If my game wasn't going on hiatus for the holidays due to it being on Sunday and this year Christmass and New Years are Sundays, I'd do a Life Day special. So, go for it.

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>>50653995
As long as its got Hoojibs and Wookies it could be cool

>>50653693

>did I railroad

It really depends on how you framed it. If there was other stuff going on around them that was drawing their attention, and they knew it was risky to use the imperial credentials (and possibly talked about it in character as such) but used them regardless, then had the guy (maybe a moff if you want to show him as a recurring 'hands-on' manager type, a 'shows up and gets shit done' kind of guy, otherwise thise doesn't rate a moff) show up with the stormtroopers in the morning, talk to the innkeeper, who points them at the PCs (giving them an opportunity to book it) then it's fine.

If it was sorta they do some stuff and then without information/explicit options are put in front of a moff and 50 stormtroopers with guns aimed at them, that's probably less good.

Giving players options and having all roads lead to Plot is good, because Plot is exciting, just approached in different ways from different choices. Allowing clever play to give advantages (and quietly upgunning the opposition to take into account this clever play) is good. Giving players info so they can make informed choices is good, as well as 'deduced info', aka things their characters can work out from all the info present that they can see, that they haven't worked out as players because they are getting a verbal description - not the 5-senses extravaganza their characters are experiencing. 'Railroading' is usually just a synonym for 'not good'.

>>50653995
Not-so-coincidentally, I'm working on a Holiday Special one-shot.

>>50653995
The Empire, lead by Moff Grinich has stolen a precious and sacred Wookie tree. It is up to the PCs to return it

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>>50651962
back from shoveling snow with some TIEs
sorry for the w8 m8
In other news, captcha can suck my cock

>>50652928
>>50652797
>>50652672

Really, all DICE needs to do is grow some balls (or be allowed to) and pick some things from the greater new canon.

In Commander, Disney Interactive directly has put in material like MTV-7, the 2-M Hovertank, the T2-B Tank, rebel Juggernaut tank, and the AT-MP along with old EU ships and stuff. I know those aren't "on screen" vehicles, but fuck man, who ever kept the Battlefront devs on the leash needs to take them off. Run wild, put some shit in HD and give it classy sounds and make some shit up. Hell, in 1080/60fps it'll look better than a lot of CGI shots in the PT and special editions.

>>50655090

There's also a now defunct canon Tower Defense game which had ULAVs and another couple of old Kenner Toy vehicles.

>>50653628
Man, I am a raging liberal, but that is a sexy goddamn firearm.

>>50655372

Americanos using 'liberal' to mean 'the political left' is hella confusing for australians, our Liberal party are the arch-conservatives.

Also confusing to us is the american politicization of gun control. It's just a public safety issue here, not like some weird propaganda thing. I've never had any problem with gun safety/ownership laws in aus, and half my family are farmers, and some of my friends are prizewinning competitive shooters. If anything, most people I know who own guns feel the current laws have too many loopholes/could be designed better to make sure of public safety around guns.

>>50655522

Your country didn't include the right to keep and bear arms as one of the top 10 of freedoms, directly under speech, religion, press, assembly and to redress grievances with the government.

That said the politicization is the usual political base pandering here. Yeah, we get some sensationalized mass killing events, yeah guns are nasty, but a lot of the rhetoric around that shit is just the same party shit - nobody has common sense about it. Pro-gun lobby shovels money into politics to do fuckall, anti talks nonsense about "assault weapons" and talks about gun bans, which would be crazy impossible for pure logistics, both on the firearms and that whole "constitutional right" thing.

Of course, lots of other countries like UK and ANZAC like to yak from the cheap seats about how come we can't just "be better" without thinking about the numbers. US has like x5 the population of UK and x16 the population of Australia, all spread over a fuckton of land and we have to try and make a consensus work. The fact that the US does anything resembling function at all, especially when we can have massive governmental turn over several times in under a decade, is a miracle.

>>50655522
It basically comes down to the division of "murrica". The left-leaning population *tends* to not be as big into gun ownership. The right-wing leaning population, goaded by the republican party, has latched onto that with propaganda about how the democrats are coming to take their guns, revoke the second ammendment, etc. It also doesn't help that the NRA (National rigle Association) has made a lobyist department with the sole purpose of throwing money (bribes) at republican popiticians and lobbying for lighter purchase restrictions and background checks. The reality being only the most extreme and crazy leftwing nutjob wants all guns banned. Those that do, tend to also be the anti-vaxxer, ban all GMO crowd. They certainly exist, and are spreading their own shitty propaganda... But most of their politicians are communist party, green party, or other extremists.

>>50655522
Yeah, sorry about that, unfortunately our shitty electoral system makes it so your position on pretty much every goddamn issue comes included with your tribal identification.

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>>50655522
Gun rights are a key part of American constitutional rights. They're ingrained in the very fiber of American politics. Guns in profuns American political thinking aren't just tools or weapons. They're a symbol of citizenship--owning a gun means you are a trusted, equal member of the polity and have the power to defend your rights against tyranny. A man who has no firearm rights is considered a subject, rather than a citizen.

Say it with me now:
>SHALL

>>50655769

>The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

Also, it's fucking lunacy for anyone to consider the idea of "giving up" a right. I mean, I don't think an american citizen has ever had to evoke their Third Amendment rights, but should we go scratching that line out? No, you keep that in, it's important.

>>50655824
>Also, it's fucking lunacy for anyone to consider the idea of "giving up" a right.

Yeah you just have to brainwash them to vote for Russia's guy.

>>50655633
This, there is a reason why there are only 3 nations our size that even approch our population, US, China and Russia. China is crazy controlling and Russia is slowly turning into us. If i recall they just gave firearms conceal and carry back to the citizenry.

https://www.rt.com/news/206703-russia-guns-self-defense/

>>50655824

The 'adversarial GM' relationship a lot of americanos assume with governments isn't really a thing here, either. A bit of a thing, especially for progressives (wealth + mining + shittons of white people means aus is a bit of a conservative paradise - rich conservative white people retire here), to assume the government is hostile but the weird 'the government is this separate thing from the people' thing is totally unheard of.

>>50655769

Sounds weird man. Every time I visit/hear about america, it looks/sounds like a pretty uncomfortable place to live if you don't buy into some beliefs that always sound pretty crazy to me.

>>50655727

Over time aus is getting a bit more like that (especially since the Nationals and the Liberals merged), and it's scaring the shit out of me.

>>50655633

What gets me the most is the accidental shooting statistics, which are apparently even lower than the actual numbers, due to cover-ups. Not even total populationwise, just the per capita, fucking insane. Due to how guns treated when I was around them as a kid, that kind of lack of gun safety is anathema. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to own guns or use them without supervision.

>>50655711

Funny thing happened last election in Aus, both Right and 'Left' (more like centre these days) had completely batshit insane economic plans (throwing more money at coal mining basically, when it's a dying industry and fucks up our best money-earner, Tourism, meanwhile our budget is totally fucked due to being plundered by mines already and our infrastructure is shitting itself due to lack of funding) because their entire campaign fundings came from mining interests (purely factual, has to be disclosed under laws that just got removed), and the only party - only party - with a sane economic plan was the Greens. They got 15% of the vote or some shit, and no seats, because our electoral system is only mildly better than the US' in that regard.

I voted for them on purely 'not fucking up the economy' grounds. They're also the only party with any people under the age of 60 in the upper management, so they understand things like 'the internet is probably something australia should have' and whatnot.

>>50656018

Yeah, you keep singing that tune, MacCarthy.

>>50656048

India population 1.2+ Billion, holmes.

>>50656109

>The 'adversarial GM' relationship a lot of americanos assume with governments isn't really a thing here, either.

Well, we probably paved the way for you - in some fashion. America got fed up with colonial shit from the Crown, and our government system is full of restrictions to make sure they cannot levy petty and serious shit like Britain was. "No taxation without representation", etc. I think all the break aways of later colonies I can think of did not require armed revolution.

I do know that Aus ending up with so many of Britain's criminals was probably us, the Americas was where they were shipping all the undesirables beforehand.

We're technically "by the people, for the people" here, but everybody tends to give big government the side-eye, especially when they're known for fucking around with us. Politics is probably politics everywhere, America just specifically has a culture grown from this idea that as a citizen the government is supposed to be beholden to you, and can't fuck with you without a very good reason.

>Some people just shouldn't be allowed to own guns or use them without supervision.

Probably, but, y'know, constitutional right. Just like we really wish people like Westboro Baptist or whoever can't assemble and say stupid bullisht and probably "should not", we have to let them.

Funny though, I'd be willing to bet a major organ that if, for example, you tried to push from the government to improve and teach about gun safety, a lot of left-wing politicians would have a freak out (or feel they need to for their constituency) much like the right-wing gets up in arms about sex education.

Same shit, different day.

>>50656109
>it looks/sounds like a pretty uncomfortable place to live if you don't buy into some beliefs that always sound pretty crazy to me.
yeah, nah. speaking as a canadian, which is I guess kinda the halfway point between you wankers and america, america is not even a tenth as 'bad' as your media makes it out to be (and left-wing (and far-right) american media, because the old british self-hatred lives on as a colonial legacy there)
truth is, america is very nearly as great as americans say it is, and frankly, outside of places that love the phrase "at least we're not americans' to cover their own flaws, people know that
>>50656109
>What gets me the most is the accidental shooting statistics, which are apparently even lower than the actual numbers, due to cover-ups
that's about the opposite of reality. the actual truth is that, if anything, it's cover-ups of suicides and attempts as "accidents" inflating the numbers

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>>50656109
Depends on where you choose to live. America's a big place. You've got people of all stripes and most of them are content to live and let live. I can't imagine living anywhere else, honestly. I fucking love this country. Just stay the fuck away from Chicago, San Francisco, and NYC if you intend to live here.

>>50656246

It's not russia in terms of awful, but i've both lived and worked there and certain beliefs and attitudes are pretty fucking bad to someone who grew up in Aus. We don't have a great track record with protecting the rights of workers and the poor here, but like, jesus fuck america I met a guy with a giant tumor on his leg killing him and he couldn't afford the very simple and very doable surgery to remove it. That's my definition of body horror.

>>50656240

I think it's more at a certain point Britain realized their empire was costing them more money than it was making and decided to remove control. It was an economic and practical decision by all accounts, the logistics just cost too much to keep the control required. Queen's still the head of state of aus, and we collectively lose our shit every time a royal visits.

>sex education vs gun education

See i'm for both those things but I don't think you should need a license to have sex, where i'm firmly on the gun-license side of the fence. People totally shouldn't have kids until they are ready, but I still class guns as more dangerous overall. Also in favour of stricter driving tests actually, nearly got hit by a fucking drunk driver the other day. Cars are hella dangerous.

>>50656301

I actually lived in NYC for three months while working on a project, but I was largely working in manhattan.

>>50656246

>truth is, america is very nearly as great as americans say it is, and frankly, outside of places that love the phrase "at least we're not americans' to cover their own flaws, people know that

Every country has it's wackjobs, America is one of them which happens to say that wackjobs have a basic right to assemble, speak and even write newsletters.

I'll admit, a lot of other anglo countries have some shit nailed down we could use, like healthcare, but, y'know that whole ~320 million population thing is a bit of a bugbear.

>>50656301

You never know, an aussie might like a coastal city. I wonder if they too have a left-wing coastal elite thing going on down under?

>>50656372

99% of the population lives on the coast. All the major cities are on the coast, also most of the towns. People in the interior have lots of issues with services and population density, and the amount of farmers killing themselves because the banks have put the squeeze on the countryside so hard that the towns are drying up is heartbreaking. All my family who are still farming are just running cattle for export or doing hydroponic market gardening.

so I was mulling the idea of playing a reprogramned B1 battle droid, upgraded and retrofitted by the alliance, for the rpg after binging rebels
he would identify the rebels as separatists and the empire as republic scum
how would you stat him? while being a terrible shot is more lore worthy, it might not be fun and easily handwaved as alliance targeting software

>>50656350

Well, licensing kind of edges on that issue of "shall not be infringed". If your state or local government wants to require you pass a class and be certified say for, concealed carry outside of your own home - that's fine, I don't even know if Amend II is incorporated, but federally at least, the government should not be able to stop you from owning a firearm or any kind of "Arms". Nor should the government assemble some kind of list of gun owners to track them. They should buy it from Google like everybody else.

But anyway, the sex education thing is mostly related to public schooling. I haven't checked on the issue lately, but especially in central states with larger and more vocal conservative populations, if you raise the idea of teaching kids how to have "safe sex", or god forbid actually try and equip them to do so (even though many states have an age of consent as low as 16) you'll raise unholy hell about how you're just teaching kids how to have sex and they should just be abstinent as jesus the christ was.

My instinct is to assume that vocal, urban "leftist" groups would probably unironically vomit up a similar stance using similar arguments because for some reason in America right now we have a terrible time conceptualizing the idea that the political other is still a human being same as us and we're all made of the same shit inside.

>nearly got hit by a fucking drunk driver the other day.

Which I certainly hope is illegal. And in the US is treated pretty seriously if they can catch you. One of the few cases where I agree with our harsh system.

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>>50655372
Yeah about the only other sort of cheese-sci-fi gun I can think of off the top of my head that looks similar is the .44 automag. But it'd probably jam and blow my hand off.

>>50655522
Our political system is a bun fight of whoever can steal the other ones low hanging fruit for easy votes.
You've got the left stealing immigration control from the conservatives, the far left stealing gun control from the far right, the right is managing to think gays should marry and the far right is comfy in bed with the left about refugees being told to fuck off.
Oh and everyone can manage to fuck up the economy!

It is literally sheer insanity.
Maybe not on the scale of the US having to choose between the massive cunt and the super douche to be el-presidente, but there's not one person in Australian politics I'd trust to run a fruit stand let along the country.

>>50655633
>Your country didn't include the right to keep and bear arms
We never have had it
It comes under the same category of car licences, its something you have to earn and learn.

>>50656372
True, but America has plenty of coastal towns and cities with less absurd costs of living. I hear Hilton Head, SC, is pretty nice. Still above the US average, but it was comfy as fuck when I visited. It's great if you love golfing. Florida's also got lots of great coastal real estate and golfing. Superb weather most of the year, barring hurricane season and the occasional mild winter freeze. It's also a pleasant place for driving. The Southeastern USA in general is comfy as fuck, really, except maybe for Atlanta.

>>50656431
B1s weren't really terrible shots in lore, it was that the standard-issue TradeFed and later Sep rifle was inaccurate thanks to its highly compact construction. B1s were below average shots, OOMs were roughly average shots, not counting their weapons.

That being said if you want him to be more capable on his own an OOM unit would be your best bet, unless you manage to get a B1 officer. B1s were downgraded to cut costs.

>>50640870
looks like an earlier version of the Millenium Falcon

>>50656523

>should just be abstinent as jesus the christ was.

Seems pretty unrealistic, but so is the idea that every idiot should be trusted to own and operate a gun, to me. I meet a lot of idiots and I just.. I don't want them to drive a car, I don't want them to fire a gun, I don't want them to have explosives, or poison, I just want them to stop being an idiot before they're allowed any of that stuff. Especially if they live or work anywhere near kids. Some people are just walking accidents-waiting-to-happen-to-someone-else.

>drunk driving

Super illegal, moreso than the US as I understand it (the penalties and license loss and jail time are harsher), but some people just drive like maniacs even without any blood alcohol content.

>>50656537

The gay marriage thing is just hilariously shameful, marriage is a societal thing but because hillsong etc are losing their shit gay people can't get married? Lolkay. I feel deeply uncomfortable on behalf of my religious friends that this shit is being done by people who theoretically are the same religion as them. Same with adoption, enough kids in foster care that we should care if the loving home they go to has gay parents? Loving home > literally anything fucking else.

And I dunno if i'd call Labour the left anymore. They seem way more centrist than anything else, greens are effectively the new left, they get progressively less extreme (and pick up more of the vote) each election. Ludlam Prime Minster 2020 gets my vote.

anglosphere national cockfighting can devour dragon dildoes, let's get back to star wars
In the post-endor horrorshow, who's y'all's favourite warlord faction?

>>50656372
>I'll admit, a lot of other anglo countries have some shit nailed down we could use, like healthcare, but, y'know that whole ~320 million population thing is a bit of a bugbear.

in principle a larger population shouldn't matter. larger tax base can cover larger costs, but politics can fuck everything up.

>>50657098

Well, that's an issue of our tax system being kind of shenanigans. But also the ol' "no taxation" meme kind of lives on, I don't see Americans as the type to do like say a nordic country and spend upwards of half the money you take in on taxes on the chance you utilize whatever the hell systems all that money goes towards. But also that wraps back into the politics thing, and in the US system at least high population with uneven distribution actually increases the number of politicians. Since congress is split into two units, one flat one proportional, since we couldn't agree on either or.

Well of to run my swrpg game let's see if these plucky heroes can challenge the might of the empire

>>50656597
>so many kinds of droids that all look the same
that makes sense, I always thought that they were all a single model, with the yellow and red ones just having more powerful brains

well, the yellow ones are pretty smart, since they can command a tank

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>>50657014
I'm starting to grow on the idea of a 'cold-war', new order thing that's happening since Ep8 where pissed off Empire has to pay gibmebucks to the people they fucked over.
Given me all sorts of ideas for a post-endor game sometime next year where there's going to be shit like "Its not a battleship" Graf Spee running around with a privateering licence, PC's doing stuff like covert armaments checking and spying... and being assassinated if I can manage it
Lot of the old-canon stuff was a bit all over the place and I'm not really sure if I would want to make a game of it.

>I also secretly bought a new star wars tshirt today

>>50640870
It's from the Darth Vader comic. He had just used the droid to plant evidence that the stooge the Emperor had ordered to watch him was a traitor. It's a great comic, although I have to say that I really dislike the character Dr. Aphra that they created for the series, and she gets way too much focus.

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>>50657914
Never read the comic, had to search her up.
She gets good a good ending.

>>50656301

You're gonna shit on Chicago, Frisco and New York even though they are all their own flavors of awesome regardless of their flaws, but not condemn Actual Worst Place Ever LA?

If I could trade LA for San Francisco I would do it in a heartbeat. Then I would never have to acknowledge the existence of North California again, and I'd get better sports teams across the board to boot.

...well, I mean, the Sharks are about equally good with the Ducks and Kings so that's technically a loss, but the Niners, Warriors and Giants are such an upgrade over the Lakers, Rams, Dodgers and Clippers its more than worth it.

What were we talking about again? Star Wars?

>>50657998

Didn't she just get a spinoff of her own? Wonder how she gets out of this one...

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>>50658075
Dammit that's what I get for not searching up more information.

Have a Sith

>>50658008
>What were we talking about again? Star Wars?

...huh, appparently so. I had to check up top tho.

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>>50656597
>roger roger intensifies

>>50655769
Well XWW, if I didn't know you were a /k/ommando before. I've probably seen you a lot in F-35 and J-20 threads under anon huh?

Anyway, it is true that gun rights are a key part of AMERICAN rights. I'm glad you're not just dismissing Aussies and Europeans as "un-free commies" because they have a different view of guns, which is something that irks me about the pro-gun right(something I generally agree with).

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So anons, a bunch of Rogue One files just went up on various torrent sites about 4-8 hours ago, and they have a LOT of seeds and peers. Did it really happen?

>>50658589

If it did someone will be getting a surprise visit from Vader.

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>>50658589
Looks like a 'download my codec' malware thing
>Not Hondo approved

>>50658589

>RebelsstealRogueOne.holo

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>>50658662

>We stole the plans to the Death Star
>Then we stole the script to the holovid about stealing the plans to the Death Star
>Then we stole the press release explaining how the Rebels had stolen the script to the holovid about the Rebels stealing the plans to the Death Star
>There's only one more thing we need to steal
What?
>THE SCRIPT FOR EPISODE VIII

>>50655769

The Constitution doesn't say GUNS, it says ARMS, which could be any kind of weapon. It also specifies that they be used in a well regulated militia. The romanticism of guns and their ownership /k/fags spew pisses me off. If you want to have guns, fine, you have a right to them and I support your exercise of it, but turn off the Starship Troopers crap please.

>>50658692

Now I can't help but imagine Kyle Katarn shooting Mickey in the face, grabbing the film canister, and running.

I've got a copy of Edge of the Empire, having never played it before, and I don't get the movement system.

I get it's meant to be abstract, but how the fuck does it work? As the GM am I just supposed to keep track in my head how far people are from each other, and arbitrate it? So if I say "A Bounty Hunter and two Thugs are coming down the corridor on your left, two Storm Troopers are coming down the corridor on your right", if someone declares they're using a maneuver to get closer to the bounty hunter I just have to remember that also brings them closer to the thugs? It sounds like it would be a bitch to keep track of if I've got 5-6 players. Or is there something I'm missing that makes it all easier?

>>50658713
if all the PCs are within short range of each other, then you can consider them all the same distance from the storm troopers

>>50658589

no

>>50658713
my group has 7 players and we get by just fine. It works easier than you think, especially since PCs and NPCs tend to form groups.

>>50658783
Also, since range is heavily abstracted characters don't really switch range bands that often in most cases. Everyone is usually where they want to be by the end of the first or second round. The melee characters kinda go against this since they brought swords to a gunfight and need to close distance by necessity.

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>>50654278
No, no no. High Colonel Grover Stinch (of COMPNOR's Coalition for Progress) has determined that the celebration of Life Day is detrimental to the "Cultural Adjustment" of Kashyyyk, and has completely banned the holiday. Soldiers have seized any and all decorations, wrapped Life Day gifts... even the roast bantha rump, while a strict curfew is in effect until the holiday has passed.

He's a mean one, that Grover Stinch.

>>50655633
I mean, as a Britbong, I spend a lot of time facedesking when I listen to other Brits talk about gun control in America.
Sure, if you live in Manhattan you don't need an AR-15, but if you are in Oregon, your next door neighbour is 5 miles away and also a bear, then high calibre weaponry becomes a lot more useful. The wide open spaces that people use for hunting as a recreational activity alone are enough to justify relaxed gun laws (Not really anything that needs much beyond single shot rifles or shotguns to shoot /at/ in the UK)

Since so much of our cultural image of the states is New York/Los Angeles/Texas, it leaves out a metric ton of stuff that makes America what it is.

Gun control as a state issue rather than a Washington one makes a hell of a lot more sense.

>>50658008
>LA
>Worse than IRL Nar Shaddaa
Never been there, so I can't really discuss it with any authority. I can't see how it can be more horrible than the murder capital of the USA, though.

>never acknowledge NorCal
>The place where the Battle of Endor ground scenes were filmed
NorCal is holy ground, heretic.

>>50658008
I've been to LA plenty. The city itself is useless, but the surrounding areas are nice, especially up in the foothills or along the coast.

>>50659193
>I can't see how it can be more horrible than the murder capital of the USA, though.

I thought that was DC?

>>50659721
Not sure about the actual rate, but in terms of raw numbers, Chicago beats DC by a landslide. Upon further inspection, though, it turns out that St. Louis actually ranks highest in the US for murder rate.

Of course, this doesn't take into account fuckery with police procedure regarding the classification of crimes. I could be wrong, given how hard it allegedly is in some cities to classify a homicide specifically as a murder, but there's a reason for why Chicago got the "Chiraq" moniker.

I hereby petition that we rename Star Wars General to The Republic Senate, to better reflect everyone being forced to listen to you guys prattle on about politics.

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So
>what system are you using?
>what's your party like?
>what's your main quest?
>who are your central antagonists?
>what planets have you visited so far?

>>50655321
Wait what? ULAVs? For real?

>>50658700
This is a SW thread, not a place to debate the meaning of commas in revolution era grammar.

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Is this asshole alive or what? Do the new cannon books reveal anything?

>>50660538
his armor was recovered from the sarlaac, but the body was never found

>>50660547
>>50660538
There was supposed to be a Boba Fett movie in the works, but according to Entertainment Weekly, Lucasfilm had a split with their initial director and the project has been "backburnered." I'm guessing that movie would have revealed what happened after the sarlacc incident.

>>50656523
A tank is an Arm (capital A Arm at that). Why can't people own those? Similarly, a nuke is an Arm, but people can't have those either. What sets the limit on these things?

>>50660596

It just seems odd they wouldn't continue his story/myth ... I feel like there's always a Boba Fett figure in every new toy line

>>50660622
The movie was probably meant to do just that. The EW interview mentioning the director split was dated as November 22 of this year, so this could mean either a green light on Fett filler or a search for a new director.

>>50660612
you can own a tank by the way, as long as you adhere to other rules, such as having it be roadsafe, registering all its weapons, etc.
rules vary by country, but one person I recall picks up their kid from school in a tracked AFV

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>>50660213
>what system are you using?
Edge, but our GM has tinkered with it a bit
>what's your party like?
I play a hodge-podge droid bounty hunter cobbled together from different CIS battle droid parts to serve as an enforcer for his creator. Before our game began, the bounty on his own creator had gotten so high the droid, having gone haywire some time earlier, turned on him and cashed in on his bounty, going solo until joining with the rest of the current party. One of my friends plays a Mandalorian smuggler and the other plays a Nightsister. Our first adventure had us backstabbing one another while trying to escape some starter-villain pirates, but then we stole a Gozanti and decided to work together.
>what's your main quest?
At first, we didn't have one. We made a deal that we'd work together to target bounties my droid PC was after but only if it seemed like they had plenty of loot our smuggler could make some money off of while the GM would drop Force artifacts here and there wherever we went for our nightsister to gather. So we spent a few sessions targeting rich, powerful criminals with some mystical items and every new planet was its own self-contained adventure while we developed our characters.
>who are your central antagonists?
We eventually drew the ire of an Imperial secret society of occultists, though not necessarily anyone of them are Force-empowered. The big cheese of that group is an old Clone Wars admiral-turned Moff who has a big collection of old Jedi and Sith stuff, not unlike Grakkus. Our most menacing villain is a Kaminoan inquisitor/serial killer/cloner who clones her most powerful victims and is steadily building an army from the cells of her most challenging adversaries. Our party has found itself on her list of future "conscripts", but we haven't had a big showdown yet.
>what planets have you visited so far?
Saleucami, Naboo, Alderaan while it was still around, Myrkyr, and we're currently on Utapau.

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>>50640648

>>50660279
Just confirmed for myself, that's pretty awesome.

Oh wow, and the Freerunner too!

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>>50658008
I live in San Francisco, I moved here from Florida to work about 3 years ago and there is almost nothing that I miss, it's pretty awesome. Everything is in (effectively) walking distance, the surrounding country is wonderful, it's so much easier to meet and hang out with people, but fuck me literally everything is inordinately expensive. I manage fine thanks to my jerb but coming from FL where the land is cheaper than the oranges that grow on it, it was an adjustment. I work on my own car so I miss having access to a garage and how the concept of hunting for a parking space didn't apply in FL. The people here are pretty pretentious overall but I think that's more do to with me than with the people. I go where the work is, but it would take a pretty good offer for me to leave. I just hope the bonkers housing bubble pops soon, it really is out of control and unless you're ok with living in basically a large bedroom that doesn't quite qualify as a studio the prices are pushing people out even when they're making decent money.

>>50662030
San Fran's only problem (ever) is that the cost of living within the city is stupidly high. Everything else about San Fran is fucking tits.

>>50662016
>>50660279

Yeah, Disney opened up the equivalent of the Star Wars vault for a lot of these early mobile game shit, and we know Lucasfilm has occasionally gone back to "wait, didn't we have a toy for this in the 80s or something?", I/E The Imperial Troop Transport being prominent in rebels

And while it ain't a looker, the ITT would be a great for a video game as like, an APC type craft. Can carry like 6 players who can shoot guns on the outside, got a gunner to run a 360 turret and the driver has two forward guns to shoot

>>50662222

Checked

Also that sounds like the landships from Battlefield 1

>>50662222
I don't think having them actually sit in those would be good, even the ones in Rebels only used them for prisoners/hostages and stored the actual troops inside.

And I'm a sucker for the fork shaped Imperial APC from RS3: Rebel Strike


It's just a shame that so many of the mobile games are server-dependent and thus prone to dying.

>>50662381

Nah, there's been at least one episode where stormies rode in the little slots - and I think they do that on the original toy - the idea was to give players riding something to do like shoot with their guns, rather than be forced to stare at the inside of a floating brick while it moves around.

https://imgur.com/a/ryEyK

Last two U-Wing cards spoiled.

Expertise. 4 PTS, EPT. When attacking, if you are not stressed, you may change all your eyeball results to hit results.

Bistan. 2 PTS. Unique Crew. Rebel Only. When attacking at range 1-2, you may change 1 hit result to crit result.

>>50662774
Expertise is nuts, better version of PtL

>>50662808

It's also four fucking points in a very good slot. Its good, but the high pricing is going to definitely to keep it competitive. You're gonna have to look real hard at those 4 points. And it requires you be unstressed, which can be a problem in today's environment.

But yeah, I'm hearing people say that Xs with EPTs are gonna love this. Rey's gonna love it. It is nothing but action economy.

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Is it just me or do people tend to underestimate TIE/fos? I've started running them in a little swarm like crack blacks used to be and the one shield feels like it makes a huge difference. Anyway post your current lists /tg/!

-98pts-
x4 TIE/fo Fighter: Omega Squadron Pilot (17)
Crack Shot (1)

TIE/fo Fighter: · "Omega Leader" (21)
Juke (2)
Comm Relay (3)

Could maybe use a catchy name for it.

>>50660213
>>what system are you using?
WEG D6, with homebrew adjustments

>>what's your party like?
An angry wookiee, cowardly ithorian, and a quiet swordsman who wants to be a Jedi.

>>what's your main quest?
They didn't know it, but they were helping an Imperial agent destroy the Rebellion. Now they must rebuild it.

>>who are your central antagonists?
Vader, Tarkin, ISB Commsnder Alecia Beck... and Leia.

>>what planets have you visited so far?
Tatooine, Alderaan (post-destruction), Tyed Kant, Kattada, Yavin IV, Raxus Prime, Coruscant (Level 1313/Undercity, COMP NOR Arcology), Dathomir (orbit only), Druckenwell, Colla IV, Mon Cala, and about three others that I can't remember the names of off the top of my head.

>>50663290
>...and Leia
wat

>>50662997
Well yes, as long as you don't have stress it's basically PtL without the added stress and when you're stressed it's the same as PtL since you can't use neither of them, i'll take it for sure over PtL if i have the extra point

>>50663490

Well, with PtL, you could argue usually you have the chance to destress yourself. You could do a green maneuver or whatever else, and be fine for the perform action step - but Expertise needs you to be not stressed when you're actually attacking, so you can run afoul of cards like Ventress, Rebel Captive, ships with higher PS hitting you with something like Tactician or Stressbot, etc. But yeah, in most situations, Expertise is just straight up better than PtL.

Unless you're Soontir Fel.

>>50663312
I didn't want to get too into it, but it's an "alternate timeline" sort of game, where the premise was to play through A New Hope with a different group of characters.

They didn't have the Falcon, instead having a much slower ship, so by time they got to Alderaan the Death Star had left. Leia became a super secret double-agent for the Empire, and the party finally "rescued" her about halfway through the campaign.

Since then, they did her bidding, unwittingly helping Vader bring about the destruction of the Rebellion itself... as well as demolishing the Death Star with the Emperor aboard.

We've gotten a little off track.

And they still didn't know what happened until Leia showed up with a red lightsaber.

It's a mess, but a ridiculous, fun mess.

>>50662078
Also the small chance of horrible death by earthquake.

>>50660213

>System

Using all three. A few minor house rules, and the GM has borrowed a system that he says comes from World of Darkness where between adventures we can develop NPC contacts, special campaign resources for long-term goals, special skills and safe houses.

>what's your party like?

My character is an experienced Rodian force user who specializes in Sabers and Mind Reading, constantly frets about Dark Side corruption, and has a drive to go around helping people solve their immediate problems. The rest of the party: Extremely shooty and hilarious refurbished police droid who's deductions are all conspiracy theories, constantly speculates on if he's feeling emotions or not, and will do anything to protect his owner regardless of morals. The owner, a runaway Moff's daughter who is abnormally strong in the force, thick-headed and impulsive, always has her nose in a book and always wants to do things she's read about in real life, but also has strong morals and enough naivety to want to stick by them no matter what. Ships' captain is disgraced former Imperial Navy who wants to build himself a capital ship and live free in the Outer Rim as only a powerful warship can allow you to.

>what's your main quest?

Right now, nothing specific. However, we were involved in a mysterious event involving a dark force user's attempts to cause a mass slaughter so another darksider would feel the disturbance as a "message." We also saw a force vision of 4 other darksiders lurking around this conflict. We're waiting for the other shoe to drop as we work on personal goals.

>what planets have you visited so far?

Mostly places just outside Hutt Space. Klatooine, Junkfort Station and Ultaar were our big three locations. We're currently on a mission to Thyferra for a sidequest.

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>>50653995
Dude

Dude


DUDE

What do you get a wookiee for Christmas? When he already has a comb?

>>50660213
>what system are you using?
FFG
>what's your party like?
Bothan Charmer, ended up meeting his exfiance Blackmarket dealer (NPC) and they sort of reconnected. Now we have a Black Marketeer on board. They scam together and it's actually cute.

Kel-Dor Pilot/Gunslinger: The Dad of the group. He and the Bothan were sent to the Kessel Mines and escaped together. He takes the youngest character under his wing because he has his own issues of being a father after the Empire killed his family. It hurts him when that character tells him he's not his father

Human Seer/Niman Disciple: After being abducted by an inquisitor several years ago from his noble family on Alderaan, he escaped when a pirate ship bombarded the Shuttle with a holocron that the inquisitor was going to hand into Vader. (Holocron is the one from CotGK). He's a young kid who plays off Lawful Good and wants to see the Rebellion succeed and potentially see the Return of the Jedi.

Mirialan Soldier: ExImperial who went rogue after the garrison told him to kill civilians who had witnessed an Inquisitor's presence. He took out his entire squad and has been a thorn in the side of local imperial government ever since.

>what's your main quest?
We're about to be introduced to the rebellion, but myself and the other GM have plans that include Inquisitors, Family ties, and uncovering a secret treasure from the Old Republic that a Hutt has been looking for (so a little bit of everything).

>who are your central antagonists?
An Inquisitor who we never got his name.
Gavro the Hutt, an individual looking for the lost Treasure left behind from the Jedi Civil War.
Moff Procil, the father of the black marketeer who want his legacy to be returned to him. (he considers her his genetic legacy and wants to ensure she is married off to someone with superior genes)

>what planets have you visited so far?
Tatooine, Arbooine, Rodia, now Arda II

>>50660715
>Kaminoan inquisitor/serial killer/cloner who clones her most powerful victims and is steadily building an army from the cells of her most challenging adversaries
That sounds fucking brilliant.

>>50657914
I wanted to like Aphra, but she literally ruined the series for me.
We get it, you're a smartass. You don't have to prove it every time you open your goddamn mouth.

>>50664395
Shampoo?

>>50664797
actually its Love and Understanding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqpMr8Nwhi4

>>50664395
biggest gun

>>50664059
EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT SAN FRAN IS FUCKING TITS, INCLUDING HORRIBLE DEATH IN EARTHQUAKE!

Just watched the Umbara arc after putting it off for so long.

The feels are real.

>>50660213
>what system are you using?
EoTE. I GM
>what's your party like?
Bunch of fuck-ups consisting of a waifu-bait twi'lek that brings in surprising amount of cash from gambling. A Faleen bounty hunter that just wants to murder people (fucking murderhobos I swear to god), a wannabe force-user most notable for picking up and fucking a underaged crack-whore under influence, a wookie doctor that haven't done shit since they player been absent since the first session and a hypocritical imperial defector pilot that only cares about muh ships
>what's your main quest?
getting the fuck away from the hoodrats the PCs just pissed off. On the long term, get rich and maybe fuck things up for the empire
>who are your central antagonists?
the PCs own incompetence
>what planets have you visited so far?
one hellhole after another. I naturally make sure the players always stumbles into a ghetto to excuse why the police haven't got to them yet

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What would be the blaster vocabulary equivalent of "chambering" a round? "Linking" a power cell?

>>50666344
Probably something like "popping a fresh charge in"

>>50666344

The narrative purpose of chambering a round is the remove the process of loading from the equation. Its either a threat or a way to ramp up tension prior to a fight starting by showing readiness.

That being said, individual rounds don't really exist for blasters, so the concept of chambering wouldn't have an analogue with them. Power cells are like magazines/CLIPS, not individual bullets. The closest thing we see to chambering a round is Han flipping the safety off and/or flipping from stun to kill in the scene with Greedo. Flipping a safety has roughly the same cinematic purpose as chambering a round, so I'd go with that instead of making up jargon that doesn't really make sense.

That said, you could always have your character use Slugthrowers instead of blasters if you really want to chamber rounds.

>>50666344
Not canon, but I've used 'lighting' quite regularly to refer to chambering. 'Light up' sounds pretty neat and star wars-y in my head.

>>50666826
I was working under the thought that it could be an additional safety feature--having to complete the circuit by manually linking the power cell to the blaster's circuitry, even when the fire mode isn't set to safe, if that makes sense.

>>50667019
that's dumb, but then again so is empty-chamber carry IRL

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>>50667072
The world is full of dumb firearms and firearm mechanisms, anon.

>>50667122
That one there could almost make a good blaster, though it would be a little too silly with all those discs that look like an old school raygun.

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>>50667357
Cooling fins, baby. Speaking of dumb firearms, here's this horrid little thing. Even more unsafe than the Nambu Type 94.

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>>50667122

hey man, the Type 92 was a rip-off of the Frecnh hotkiss machine gun of WW1. And in the age of the Maxim gun nobody ever said French machine guns were ineffective.


Obsolete by world war 2 maybe. But a heavy machine gun is a heavy machine gun is a heavy gun and it might aswell be satan itself sending rounds down range if your on the recieving end of it

>>50667357

It dosent look that weird and since there are that many of them the purpose of it being a heat sink is apparent and not that queer. more or less carries the same aesthetic as stuff like the Lewis gun.

>>50667122

>dumb firearms
>posts an effective and reliable firearm

u wot m8

>>50667436
>reliable
>Type 92
The Hotchkiss, maybe, but the combination of strip feeding and Japanese ammo grease didn't work well with the Type 92. It had a reputation of jamming pretty frequently.

>>50666826
Instead, use "turning the stun setting off" to ratchet up tension.

>>50668400
Or, for bonus points, the bigger a blaster is the closer its activation sounds like a Ghostbusters proton pack.

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>>50644753
>ywn remove clankers with your deathspitter

According to /swg/, which race is the:

>most badass
>most sexy
>most evulz
>most trash
>most boring
>most ridiculous
>most underrated

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>>50669460

humans

>>50669460
Yes. That is my answer.

>>50669460
>most badass
Kel-Dor

>most sexy
Pantoran

>most evulz
Bothan or Trandosians

>most trash
The NOTithorian from TFA

>most boring
Mirialan

>most ridiculous
Parwan

>most underrated
Ithorian

>>50669748
>>most underrated
>Ithorian
Nothing says conservationist like turning your whole planet into a nature preserve. Now I want an Itheodore Roosevelt shoop.

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>>50669460
Hutts all the way down.

>>50669864
Aarrba fucking hated those twins and it's hilariously ironic that they thought they were honouring his memory by making that sign after the brother accidentally murders him.

>>50670110
I like how the Great Sith Empire got their shit wrecked thanks to two complete idiots stumbling upon Korriban and helping Naga Sadow start a war.

>>50670110
He didn't really hate them, he was just disappointed in them and angry they ran off with his ship.

>>50669748
>bothans
>evil
I need some context here.

>>50671003
Borsk Feyl'ya and every Bothan designed to be similar to him.

You will hate them more than the actual villains in any book they show up in.

>>50671036
And then there's Koth Melan and Traest Kre'fey, who are awesome-tier Bothans.

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>>50654341
>ship

ty senpai.

>>50671003
Old EU made one known bothan.

Given how we know that there were bothan spies in RotJ, the autists who wrote the EU assumed that their entire society was built on scheming and spying.

>>50671220
Not really, Borsk wasn't even that good at espionage, he was paranoid but that was his only qualification.

>>50671220
>Old EU made one known bothan.
Got cut off.

EU made one known Bothan that became famous and modeled a society around that.

>>50671248
He would fall into the Schemer

>>50669460
>most badass
Human

>most sexy
Togruta

>most evulz
Neimoidian or Hutt (Greedy evil), Sith species (real evil), Human (everything else)

>most trash
Those bunny things, Lepi or whatever? And all the close-but-not species in TFA.

>most boring
Ewoks.

>most ridiculous
Toydarian, Gungan

>most underrated
Duros, Ithorian

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>>50669460
That's too easy!

>>50671139
Koth God-Tier

>>50671426
This but I would tie the Twi'leks and Togruta.

I like Star Wars, but I still think Day of the Tentacle is the best thing with Lucas' name on it.

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>>50671781
That is an acceptable opinion.

>>50666888
Fucking checked man

I would probably call it "powering up" or "charged up"

So many d6holocron downloads get really buggy when viewed in anything but Chrome's built in PDF viewer.

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Does Star Wars have anything like the HMS Victory? An old ass ship that survived through all the shit and ended up being the 'longest commissioned ship'? I guess the Remnant's Chimaera counts by the time of the Fel Empire, but is there any ship that lasted from the Old Republic?

>>50672994
Invincible Class Dreadnoughts are about a thousand years old. Not in mainline service outside the Corporate sector and a few places like it, but incredibly impressive.

>>50672994
>>50673066
Scratch that: THREE THOUSAND years old.

Yeah, they're basically just big durasteel tubes with all the old stuff stripped out, probably the equivalent of a ship of Theseus.

>>50673066
>>50673567
I meant more of something like the HMS Victory. A ship that's stayed in service for a long ass time. I guess the Chimaera eventually counts for the Empire/Remnant/Fel Empire and Home One for the Rebellion/New Republic but I was wondering if there was a specific ship like that dating back to the Old Republic.

>>50673726
HMS Victory represents the unbroken line of British naval history and tradition. Palps would have gotten rid of anything like that as he worked to establish his New Order, it wouldn't do him much good to have symbols of the Old Republic hanging around like that.

I wondernif Kyle Katarn speaks sullustan. His home apparently is on a moon of sullust. (HOW Jerek managed to fill an entire city on the moon of a New Republic founding world is a giant goddamn mystery of its own )

>>50673903
Then maybe the Chimaera in late-Remnant era/early Fel era works.

I was going for a 'infamous/famous ship now a museum piece stolen, government's cultural department wants it back' type of run. I suppose I could have NR Black Ops steal it and then the players have to bring it back.

Having Imperials as good guys working with hired freelancers would be a nice change too.

I could throw in lots of Fast and Furious vibes too and have Soontir come back and take the role of Hobbs back up the freelance players

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>>50674024
>NR black ops hijacking Chimera
>Baron Fel
If you're going to throw in the People's Champion, you should also think about having him face a heel on the level of Voort "The Pig Show" SaBinring.

>>50674024
>I could throw in lots of Fast and Furious vibes too and have Soontir come back and take the role of Hobbs back up the freelance players
You had better do that, then report back here

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>>50671721
OP of >>50671426 here: Yeah, I should have thrown Twi'leks in there, too.

>>50671426
>Neimoidian or Hutt (Greedy evil), Sith species (real evil), Human (everything else)
The Sith as a species were barely evil. They were pretty much Egyptians so I guess the whole slavery thing was bad but when it was Sith species in charge rather than human Dark Jedi, they didn't give a fuck about the Republic and stuck to their own area of space.

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>tfw jumping from pic related to Vector Prime
wish me luck boys

DAMMIT my plan to steal Tapani house stuff for the Senex-Juvex houses falls flat. They treat their subjects way too well.

>>50674277
You're retarded, and luck already favors fools, so I won't.

>>50674277
Why on God's mostly-blue earth would you do a miserable fool thing like that?
It's like cuddling with a girl, deciding you want more like that and then throwing yourself in a fucking trash compactor

>>50674382

Essential Atlas looks at the Senex-Juvex. There might be some inspiration in there.

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>>50674277
>Vector Prime

Two other words which are associated with that 'just dont'

>>50674277
At least read the Hand of Thrawn series before that you moron, especially since it sets up the Vong.

>>50675948
But Zahn's writing is so hackneyed. Coincidences everywhere.

I will seroiusly consider it, but please tell me without spoilers if you can, how HoT sets up the Vong.

I was under the impression that the Vong were only conceived after Del Rey took over.

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Think I'm about 50% more into Victory SD's today.

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Paint job pending, but this is going to be Irregular squadrons special mission reward for successfully completing the ships corresponding mission. Gonna have an intercepted transmission from Incom confirming the location of a derelict clone war era republic testing facility slated for demolition. Incom conveniently sent out the exact coordinates, dock codes and schematics for several prototype fighters in mothballs at the facility that could be a great asset to the local rebel cell.

Going to turn out to be a trap laid by an Inquisitor who has arrived in the aturi cluster to deal with the growing rebel cell known as the Irregulars. He arrives with a pair of Gozanti cruisers loaded with ties, and a pair of elite tie advanced x1's, which come in pairs every 3 turns for 12 turns until the rebels break through the Gozanti line and jump to hyperspace with the prototype ship.

>>50675974
Oh well if you don't like Zahn's writing then you won't like HoT much. And it sets up, in general terms, the idea of an outside context threat. The specifics were invented by Del Rey later.

>>50676381
>And it sets up, in general terms, the idea of an outside context threat.
Is this a big point in HoT, and would you consider them less "coincidence filled" (or just flat out better) than the original Thrawn Trilogy?

I'm at page 35 of Vector Prime, and so far, Salvatore is seeming like he has a more versatile writing style than Zahn.

>>50676447
I'm going to be honest I don't remember much of the duology other than I liked it a lot less than the Heir to the Empire trilogy. If you're already on Vector Prime than there's no point in backtracking now.

>>50676475
>other than I liked it a lot less than the Heir to the Empire trilogy.
bingo
Thanks mate.

>>50676482
No problem anon

>>50675350
I use it already, just wish I had more like house domain maps and heraldry.

>>50675974
Unless you mean that Zahn's writing resembles the writing of Dicken's in that it uses coincidence as a vital plot point, you're using the word hackneyed wrong.

>>50653995
You should write the Rath Sienar Holiday Special.

>>50677570
Someone to talk to, awesome.

Yeah, I don't exactly know what I meant, but something about Zahn's plotting just feels kind of by the numbers to me.
I liked them, but not enough to read the HoT, which people are saying is worse.

You got an opinion on the Hand of Thrawn duology?

>>50677633
Zahn is consistently a top-tier Star Wars author, but creates Mary Jade Sue characters and relies on unlikely coincidence to run plots. The Hand of Thrawn duology is no exception, though I believe he's done with character creation by time he gets to them.

Otherwise, I can't remember specifics.

>>50677633
>Yeah, I don't exactly know what I meant, but something about Zahn's plotting just feels kind of by the numbers to me.
You aren't necessarily wrong, I just think that you should reevaluate your criteria for Star Wars novels. Yes, Zahn makes fun, slightly formulaic pulp sci-fi/space fantasy stuff with more heart than usual. But, when you think about it, isn't that kinda what Star Wars IS, at it's most basic?

>>50675974
>>50677570
>>50677633
Star Wars as a setting has a lot of coincidence/destiny driving it, so I don't see much of a problem with Zahn's use of it.

Luke just HAPPENS to buy the droids, Rebels just HAPPEN to set up a base within easy reach of Han's old friend turned cloud-city owner.

>>50676126
Still not a fan of the weird angle he put the "Steps" it makes me dizzy to look at.

>>50678836
>>50678817

I fear nothing, all is as the Force wills it.

>>50677605
I don't think I'd be able to capture the spirit of the /swg/ Raith Sienar, unfortunately. And I've already started work. It's currently looking to be a comfy, lighthearted Skywalker/Antilles/Antilles special.

I wish there was more information on the Senex-Juvex Tikiar fighters, we only know they have quintuple starburst looking engine patterns and that ships of the same name were in operation before Naboo and as late as 12 ABY, but we don't even know if they were the same ship or very different models.

>>50679127
This is here as a reminder to myself that I need to color code the map by house at some point.

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>>50677605
>1 bby
>The party was in full swing at Sienar Fleet Systems HQ. Despite the new Imperial regulations on alchohol a group of distrubution specialists had smuggled in a substantial quantity of Juma Juice in a TIE Bomber's magazine, while the hangar techs had creatively reduced engine coolant into perfectly serviceable everclear.
>Once they brought it to the high-level get together, things really started moving
>The taste was terrible, but mixed in with a little bit of nerf milk, and it was perfectly possible to drink
>"Where the hell did you GET that milk anyway, why, I thought it was all gone after Alderaan...you know?" an attractive young secretary asked a glowing engineer, while stroking his arm. The young man was reveling in the attention, "Ahh you know sister, the Death Star didn't get every nerf in the galaxy. It's the only thing off that shithole worth saving anyway right?" He shouted to encouraging laughter.
>"OH you're so funny," she fake giggled, eyeing his regulation trousers all the while. "So what do you do anyway?"
>"Oh I'm glad you asked! I'm working on something really cool now!" he said, seemingly oblivious to her increasing hints as he reached into his pocket. He frowned all of a sudden, the intoxication fading as he searched his pockets for a dataslate that wasn't there.
>Suddenly, the lights dimmed, and an extremely nervous young aide stepped up to a podium on a stage near the back of the room. A group of maintenance techs took their chance and slipped out the backdoor, with several gallons of juma juice and two girls in tow.
>The aide cleared his throat and put his chapped lips up to the comm "T-t-thank you f-for coming to the s-s-s-seventh anual l-life day c-celebration of S-Sienar fleet s-systems" he manged to say through his sheen of sweat, to scattered applause.
>"T-t-thank you. M-may I present f-founder of the c-c-company, Raith S-s-Sienar!" he said, clearly fighting off waves of nausea.

>>50679865
>1 bby
>Alderaan is gone

Wut?

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>>50679975
Was supposed to be ABY, sorry

>>50679865
>Up on the stage, Sienar failed to arrive as the applause died down. There was scattered muttering among the audience, only broken by a dull thud as one of the techs outside tripped on something.
>"S-s-s-sir, where are y-y-you?" Casting his gaze about the room, looking like a confused bantha cub in the gaze of a gundark.
>This went on for thirty aganoizing seconds before Sienar suddenly burst in from stage right, his hair flecked white with glitterstim. He bodily shoved the aide off the stage, yanked the comm off the podium, and turned to the face the assemeled employees with his bloody red eyes.
>"What is UP Sienar Fleet personnel!" he screamed into the comm, eliciting cheers from the room as he began thrusting his crotch in an extremely suggestive manner.
>"We've had a great year here at the company! Thanks to those fucks at Incom, the TIE Defender is still going strong! The TIE Interceptor, courtesy of us, is shredding A-Wings across the fucking galaxy, and we're just about to debut the new and exciting TIE Shuttle! WOOOO!" he said slamming his open palm onto the holo display with each motion, bringing up an image of each ship.
>"But here's the fucking thing-" he suddenly belched his elbow, and when he removed it there was a visible green stain, "all this time our ships have been uhhh, you know, anti-fighter right?" He said, a swaying unsteadily on his feet. "But starting now..." he continued, slipping his hand into his pocket
>The engineer at this point had finally noticed the attentions of the young woman and forgotten his datapad.
>"Yeah you know I was talking to him just
>"Stooop it, no way!" she purred, slinking her hand to his inner thigh.
>He laughed, "Yeah I don't know what he wanted though. Really touchy guy," he grinned, "kinda like you."
>Sienar swaying dangerously as he fumbled in his pocket. Finally, he whipped out a datapad and slammed it into the podium's readout.

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>>50680052
>"May I present the LATEST piece of HACKJOB rebel ''''''technology''''''" he spat out, making airquotes with the length of his arms...
>At this point an unusual ship appeared on the readout. It was shaped like a giant letter "T".
>"THE B-WING"
>"This fucker's got a gyroscopic cockpit, dual gunner/pilot setup, multiple laser cannons, and a fucking SUPERLASER built into the thing."
>The tech at this point removed his lips from the secretaries and was staring in disbelief. That was the ship he'd been investigating.
>"It's fuckin' brilliant. I can't fuckin' top it. I mean seriously, I can't top it. I mean a fuckin' superlaser? In a fighter? Why didn't I think of that? " Sienar said quietly.
>Was he actually choking back tears?
>"So thanks a lot Dean the engineer for showing me this piece of SHIT." He shouted, jabbing a finger at the hapless engineer, the secretary still confusedly hanging onto to his engine shaft.
>"So here's the deal buddy, you and your department's gonna work overtime to get me a fighter mounted superlaser. I don't care if you have to steal the damn thing. Starting from TODAY, this is the objective of this company or my name isn't Raith fuckin' Sienar, UNDERSTAND?"
>At this point the spotlight had shifted onto dean and the secretary. The entire audience was glaring at them. The secretary let go of him and slunk into the shadows.
>Sienar was still sulking on stage, glaring at the audience.
>"Party's over folks, get back to work," he said again, point at all of them. "I want my goddamn superlaser."

>>50680186
>>50680052
>>50679865
I can't wait until my Party comes face to face with Sienar.

>>50680243
This story could also work as a pitch for a Sienar Fleet Systems holiday special.

Goal: Steal the B-Wing prototype.

>>50680257
Yes, steal it on Life Day when security will be minimal. Disguise yourselves like holiday performers for a Life Day party in a rebel cell.

So TIE Defenders are now a thing pre a new hope. Bothers me when they do thingsa like that because it leaves you wondering why they weren't there in defense of the Death Star.

>>50680525
It's possible they are, but unseen to our eyes in the movies.

At the same time they might not have been fully mass produced yet.

>>50680548
yeah, i'm telling myself they weren't in any way close to mass production

>>50680525
>>50680548
The F-22 was a twinkle in Lockheed-Martin's eye since the mid 80s, and had prototypes by 1991. Still took fifteen years to reach IOC. Just because you have blueprints or even workable prototypes does not mean they can be produced in large numbers, even accounting for Star Wars' absolutely ridiculous speed of technological advancement and production.

>>50680525
>>50680548
>>50680560
We don't know what setbacks they'll have, or if they're even past the concept drafting pre-prototype stage, they may take quite a while to finish them.

>>50680627
It's likely that Phoenix Squadron's attack on the factory will set them back a bit.

>>50652534
>what is Battlefront 2's setting going to be?
Star Wars, one would think.

By the way, I played some X-Wing last Saturday, and quite enjoyed it. Is it worth getting into as an actual thing?

>>50680884
I'd say it's worth getting into, to just get to a point where you're able to play the basic format it's probably the cheapest miniature game there is, just grab a core set and two or three ships and you've got all you need to make three or four different lists for only like 60 bucks.

>>50650930
It's too short and is a very stupid take on Tarkin. I always thought a story where Tarkin and Vader do a buddy cop adventure would be an interesting/fun story. This book proved that wrong. Far from Lucenos best work, sadly.

>>50680052
Something about this reminded me of Tony stark. Though I guess tony would be Rath Sienar if he made the dark trooper project. So Rath sienar/general mohc. Or, come to think of it, it would be Admiral Galak Fyar

>>50681091
>Something about this reminded me of Tony stark
Probably because there's a very similar scene in Iron Man 2.

>>50680884
>Is it worth getting into as an actual thing
Yes

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>>50681091
>Rom Mohc
He's more like Senator Armstrong if Armstrong was a scientist.

>>50681798
COMBAT EXOSKELETONS SON!

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>>50681798
>Senator Armstrong
>Rom Mohc
>not Galak "Cortosis, son!" Fyyar

>>50682084
Fyarr is just a pale imitation of the original. Not BAD by any measure, just not quite as good as Mohc.

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>>50680315
>>50680257
>Raith Squadron

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>>50680884
Yes, unless you go to an organized tournament it's 100% okay not to have the cards you want to use as long as you have the ships/pilots; so you don't have to buy everything just to be able to play. With the starter box and 2-3 ships you've got enough variety to play for a long time, and there is a genuine skill curve in learning to maneuver around the board. The community is also simultaneously top tier and probably the normiest people in tabletop gaming so you get to play with people that have things like social skills and interests beyond the game you're playing.

>>50681798
I really need a picture of Rom Mohc in the basic Dark Trooper exoskeleton fighting it out with a B2 Grappler droid.

>>50650930

>>50680993
>It's too short and is a very stupid
I had the opposite experience. I enjoyed it thoroughly. It explains a lot about Tarkin's backstory and gives us some fascinating glimpses into the Clone Wars and early Imperial periods.

>>50681798
>>50682079
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/808784561475702785 The one thing twitter is good for: Interrupting Pablo's coffee with /swg/ memes.

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How do these compare to the TIE/IN? If the First Order wanted to upgrade their remaining TIE stocks due to increasing scarcity, why didn't they use the interceptor as the standard and improve it from there?

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>>50682487
How long until he gives in completely to the memes and starts coming here?

>>50682554
In universe?
Probably due to a lack of scarcity and the fact that 1-2 threads ago Sienar decided to make the TIE for the first order, with shields and a life support system.
Though the right answer is out of universe, JJ just wanted to reuse the most iconic original trilogy era elements.

>>50682715
>starts coming here?
I'm sure some on their staff frequent /swg/ and /swco/

>>50682738
>JJ just wanted to reuse the most iconic original trilogy era elements.
JJ just wanted to reuse the original trilogy
FTFY

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>>50682764
If Lucasfilm people are here:

I'm sorry for how we treat you like punching bags sometimes. But for fuck's sake, stop letting Filoni introduce new tech into Rebels. No VTOL lightsabers, no superlaser B-Wings, I'm even hesitant on Ezra's lightsaber blaster.

That said, thanks for making Rogue One happen, it seems like a blast to have a grittier Star Wars movie.

Anyone else want to add anything?

>>50680525
To further expand on >>50680617

During WW2, in the middle of a war, with industry and new designs on rush to get new shit out, it took many tank designs over a year just to be finalized and put into mass production. For example, development on the T-34 began in 1939 after Russia's border skirmishes with Japan. Early prototypes were developed within the year, with the first T-34 prototypes being tested in January of 1940. By September of 1940, the very first models entered production, and about 400 were manufactured (barely anything by Russia's standards). The true "first model" mass production began in 1941, and within 2 years of fighting the vehicle underwent several improvements before (in 1943) the 85mm upgrade began to be mass produced. And that was a main-line medium tank, not an aircraft.

For even further comparison, the Il-2 Sturmovik began conceptual development in the early 1930s, as a need for a "ground attack aircraft". But it wasn't until 1938 that the the plane was designed and prototyped (due mostly to lack of powerful enough engines). Even so, the Il-2 didn't go into mass productuon until the production model passed testing in March of 1941, with it finally seeing service in May 1941.

So in short, just because the B-Wing was prototyped, and the Defender has had it's designs leaked, does not mean they finally went into the field before Hoth.

>>50683226
Please keep up the hard work, we are just tsundere for you