Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1215: Look To Your Sins Edition

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Reposting for Nubee

>>50592358

The current sailor moon jump is shit and like hell I'll let the biggest cornerstone of my childhood get blatantly disrespected through a shitty jump.

(Also Wakfu said that he doesn't care what happens to the jump, so)

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>>50592509
>As a Jumper, you don't have to pick the recommended list of skill packages. Have clarified.
Oh, huh. I'd assumed you got those in addition to your starting ones, as Firewall training or something.

Well. Shit. Now I have to spend 300cp extra on skills. Why are there so many delicious tech packages...


>Ego Bridge
I assume this also works for Companions, so it actually has an use despite the tech-less Resleeving perk?

>It's pronounced SPY-ME
How angry is Firewall going to be at me with this drawback and the DLC?

Also, can these sensors survive in the sun's corona or is my vacation spot free of them?

>Black Mark
Can you take this multiple times?

>Morph Dysphoria
Seems kinda weird, since there's no guarantee at all that a jumper going in has looked like their bodymod appearance in ages or considers that their mental selfimage.

I know my jumper has barely looked anything close to Bodymod, even in base human forms, for millenia. Between appearance perks, height perks, various eye/hair color-affecting perks, and more...

Maybe just go with a "default" appearance?

Also, does having Bodymod Biomorph satisfy the requirements of the drawback, or does it need to be an exact human replica?

>>50596077
In the first Dark Souls jump, it says Miracles aren't actually powered by the gods and your faith can be in anything. Is that true in this one, too?

Also, how are miracles, sorceries, and pyromancies cast? Do you have to chant or something?

Also, by googling it, it seems like spells are normally some kind of page you carry around and have to prepare Vancian style? So would my plan to use spell copying perks like Sorcerer Savant not work?

>>50596194
>Miracles
You recite a passage which is basically a story or prayer.

>Soceries
You seem to just channel magic through a catalyst. Nothing is said about incantations being needed or not.

>Pyromancy
You channel your inner flame into a little fire and then channel that further into various effects. This one is the quickest, it doesn't require must cast time.


It's sorta Vancian, but honestly I think that system is for gameplay purposes more than lore since nobody else talks about slots or spells per day and crap like that.

>>50596194
Dark Souls used to have a vancian system but 3 changed it to a mana bar.

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Jumpers, what virtue do you hold above all else?

>>50596262
>You recite a passage which is basically a story or prayer.
Eh, I dunno about that. It would make sense for healing and the like, but would essentially make the offensive miracles useless.

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Reposting from last thread

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>State your name, rank, and intention.

How do you respond?

>>50596363
Glorp, Slorp, Gwarg!

>>50596348
Why does it keep switching between Lilum, Lilim, and Lilium?

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>>50596363
banchô-Anon ,God, Liberation and you best put that gun down Now girly unless you want to lose that arm

>>50596320
Charity.
>>50596363
None of your business, I suppose I'm the leader of my group, do you have three hours and a whiteboard?

>>50596363
Jumper-kun, Emperor of Space, to shitpost on your Earth internet

>>50596363
Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong?

>>50596320
Above all else? Absolutely? Justice. Never work for the enemy at all costs, and try to avoid killing people if you must. Always protect.

Also no blood magic. That's a nono.

>>50596320
freedom

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>>50596332
>but would essentially make the offensive miracles useless.
They are. Haven't you played Dark Souls 3? Slow as molasses.

>>50596363
I have too many, retired, and road trip.

>>50596363

"Nika, uh...don't have one, love, friendship, and to spread goodwill wherever I go!"

>>50596320
Truth.

>>50596463
But blood is good. You need blood to live.

>>50596480
>implying

>>50596363
[Unintelligible noise that causes their ears to bleed], Captain of the GSV 'Overkill Is A Virtue', and I'm here to hunt waifus.

>>50596428
Because dyslexia is a powerful drug

>>50596320
Self Confidence.

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After many a day buried under bureaucracy I live!

>>50596320
The strong should protect the weak, but the weak should always be given the option to grow strong. Don't know how to say it any better than that.

>>50596363
I go by Gaunlet-Anon for the first, though I do have a list of all my various incarnations names for some researched I'm doing and also I have a different list for my various ranks. Intention? Well if the world is shit I'm here to try and help fix it... I'm kinda a white knight you see...

>>50596320
Prudence.

>>50596320
Kindness/Compassion

>>50596587
Enjoying paperwork?

>>50596320
Power is a responsibility, not a toy.

Reminder to everyone reigniting or absorbing the First Flame in Dark Souls:

This should let you rediscover Flame Sorcery, which is kinda like if Pyromancy and Soul Sorcery (the stuff most people use) had a much more powerful baby. The greatest magic user in history, the Witch of Izalith, specialized in Flame Sorcery before the First Flame became too weak.

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>>50596600
One thing Iove about Exalted is they have a Bureaucracy ability that you can get Excellencies for, I love the fantasy of slaying paperwork so easily.

I just spent like three days buried under inventory manifests.

>>50596077
Is this Jumpable yet?

>>50596320
compasion

>>50596320
Temperance

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>>50596320
Loyalty. Restraint is a close second, though.

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>>50596320
Kindness. I know, I know. I'm a bit of a jerk sometimes but I do try.

>>50596363
Yorokonde, Second Lieutenant 2nd Armored Division, and Classified. If I told you, you wouldn't believe me and if I showed you, you'd consider yourself insane.

Have a lollipop.

>>50596487
They got buffed. I mean, they're still useless in PVP because they're spells, but they're usable in PVE.

So,this new DS3 jump got me thinking. How would the Chaos Flame react to the Dark and Deep and All Things Spooky? Would they merge, would they reject each other, would they create some sort of abyssal demon monstrosity for me to unleash upon Lordran and/or Lothric?

>>50596320
That's totally the oposite of a round table.

>>50596716
Oh, I see. Did they buff Sorcery's damage? I remember that damage was a bigger issue than cast time for them.

Hopefully they didn't nerf Pyromancy or Hexes because those two were still useful sometimes.

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>>50596320
Freedom to myself, and to some extent, my companions

>>50596789
Chaos has nothing to do with Dark. Dark is the property of the Dark Soul, Chaos is the property of the Witch's corrupted Lord Soul (some people call her's the Life Soul.) They're not direct opposites, but they're not related at all.

>>50596792
Well yeah. Batman is sitting at the table. You can't have a round table to symbolize how all are equal when Batman is there. He is objectively better than all of those knights.

>>50596821
Yes, but I'm asking how they would react to each other. It's like putting two volatile chemicals together; will they explode?

>>50596792
Elongated table?

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>>50596363
Jumper (but you can call me Jumper-chan), Pleasure God, to rape and pillage your home-world and this station! And then daemons start infecting everything

>>50596091
Hey douchbag, there's no reason to act like an asshole. If you want to make it better and you've got the go ahead: great. But waving your dick around and talking trash, with no real standing, honestly what have you done, is garbage.

Make the jump or don't, but shut the fuck up about it and leave your soapbox at home. Or at least wait until you've got some laurels before swaggering around.

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>>50596348
Time for builds then.

Origin: Drop In
Race: Human
Drawbacks: May you live in interesting times +300
Perks:
Time to mix drinks and change lives (free)- A luchadore, an enkidu expy, and nervous patrons all walk or get carried into a bar...
Theatrics (100)- ...And promptly turn the expy into a slumbering drink tower.
Big Bossu (300)- And no one had dinner that night.
Script Kiddie (400)- Then he got onto the internet and all was lost.
Danger/u/s (600)- Thus was Jumper born, shitposting anon supreme who on occasion has a point.
2 idiots 1 keyboard (1000)- His fingers were never seen again.

Gear
Kotatsu (free)- Nor was the rest of him.
BTC Beverage Kit (1100)- Mixing intensifies.

Ware:
Dermal Armor (1300)- Yet their skin remains smooth and fun to touch.

Awakening in a bar and not being smashes would be a first for me. Ditto for the shibe damning me with faint praise over the alcohol tower I form the base of. Carefully pulling the tower off without spilling it, I ignore the applause to have femtobots begin devouring the foreign nanites in my system while studying this mesh over my skin for improvement into superior flesh weave. Thus began the story of Jump runner, vigilante freedom fighter by day and shitposting bartender by night. Hanging out with the boss, and secretly slipping Jill money without her being aware I flip between comfy and a brighter cyberpunk aim. At least the corgis vanished from the bar after that, and the patrons are quirky enough to be interesting. Now if only Dorothy would stop soliciting me or the ghost in the machine stop pestering me at work...

>>5059636
don't have one, wiafu, and i'm here to find casinos I haven't been banned from.

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>>50596320
Integrity.

>>50593385
>Just curious, I assume you don't want to create an ugly world and just about every demon in the series has been super uggo so-when you remake all life in demonic form, what'll you add to the Seedbed to ensure folks don't look like gross plant monsters?
I'm not remaking all life, I'm just using the Seedbed as a base for some projects. You know, plant some flowers, let them grow, monitor them to ensure it's only at the level of demonic state I desire, etc. Plenty of other modifications too, but that's likely to come later in the chain. So for now, it's sitting there.

>Also, are you going to personally take on the Dark Sigils/First Flame embers(?) to kindle it, or just shove it all in the Seedbed before shoving it into the flame?
I am Usurping the Flame. Taking those embers and throwing them into the Seedbed of Chaos, going with what Vendrick had theorized. The Dark Sigils are just so I could harness the First Flame and the Dark Soul in tandem, letting me break this stagnant cycle to begin with. 'cause, you know, purposefully prolonging the Flame is what got us into this mess to begin with. So not letting that happen again.

>>50596320
Don't make the Multiverse a less interesting place.

So I've just started getting into jumpchain, so this might be a stupid question. But how do classes work in the FFTA jump? Is there a point or year cost to them?Is it just a grab bag?

>>50596987
>purposefully prolonging the Flame is what got us into this mess to begin with
I thought the fact that the Flame – and the Disparity that came with it – are what caused this mess? Like, hasn't the world already been through countless cycles of Light and Dark, but the world is just falling apart because it's supposed to be Grey and Unchanging?

>>50596320
Comitas which according to wikipedia is the Roman virtue of ease of manner, humour, courtesy, openness, and friendliness.

Seems to be largely on the money.

>>50597103
You can access any of the classes of your race, plus any additional classes you purchase with the Extra Class option. I think FFTAnon said you can also theoretically learn new classes from other people via learning skills, but it's a lot harder.

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>>50592509
Hey Myrmidont, the Flexbot note makes me wonder...

I can also just add more Microbots to my Swarmanoid/Skulker swarm as normal, which is retained by the altform, right?

Also, could I start replace the microbots with miniaturised variants to gradually upgrade myself to a (mostly?) nanoswarm?

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>>50597132
The Primordial Serpents along with the Corvians in the Painted World of Ariandel also imply that purposefully prolonging the flame and forcing it into Ages of Fire that last way longer than they should is what's fucking the world up. Instead of letting it be a natural cycle it's just constant tampering.

The Corvians consider burning their Painted Worlds when Rot sets in to be a natural thing, to make way for the new world instead of prolonging it unnaturally. The world with the First Flame is prolonging things unnaturally and not letting the Age of Dark come on its own, since the Fire Keeper when she's given eyes also implies there will be flame after the Age of Dark. So neither side is meant to last forever.

While this is conjecture, it does make a good amount of sense. The First Flame came naturally, and so it should be meant to fade naturally. It's been through a bunch of cycles yes, but for a bunch of those cycles the First Flame has been kindled and prolonged to the point where its outstayed its welcome. It just feels like the better option so one day a new flame can arise.

>>50596895
Yeah, you're right. Major dick move on my part, and I apologize.

>>50597099
That makes me think.

Jumpers, would you refrain from saving people or improving their lot in life if it made for less interesting conflicts?

What perks should I pick up before jumping Murdertale?

>>50597159
You know, I got curious now: are we in dream-Ivalice, or the real one from A2? While the jump kinda leans towards the first game, it also takes a lot of elements from the second one, so I got a little confused here.

>>50597266
Tolerance of Evil from Overlord would help.

>>50597282
Well, if you take Marche to the Sea like everyone does, you're in Dream Ivalice. Except real. And you and everyone else dies if the dream ends.

>>50597266
Murdertale should be trivially easy to survive. C'mon, anon, a child could do it.

>>50597222
So, using Adaptive Body to absorb what's left of the First Flame: good or bad idea?

>>50597132
I thought it never really reached an Age of Dark. Someone always showed up and kindled the Flame again before it could really start.

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>>50597313
Fucked if I know. I just played it safe and used the method in the game.

Is there anyway I can cleanse evil or purify demons?

>>50597266
Taking a lot of dodging and aiming perks could help. If you really want to be evil, you could just take an endurance perk and when Undyne reforms out of sheer willpower, keep dodging her until she melts (which can actually happen), convice characters to stand down and then kill them. It really takes a strong intent to kill to actually kill a monster.

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>>50597222
I mean, you have a point. But on the other hand, that does mean you're helping Kaathe. Aka Mr. "Hey Oolacile, you know what would be fun? Sticking your dick in the corpse of the primeval man."

Though I haven't played Ariandel yet.

>>50597313
I think they did reach an Age of Dark but lol DS canon.

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>>50597259
That's a complicated one. I mean, sometimes bad things have to happen for the greater good, and other times a little bit of suffering can forge a person from an arrogant little shit to a true hero. But generally, no, I won't let people needlessly suffer just for entertainment's sake.

>>50597311
You, you I like. That was a good one.

>>50597357
You mean you killed the Firekeeper to steal the Flame? Damn, that cold.

>>50597408
Generic Magical Girl

>>50597408
Kingdom Hearts.

>>50597159
>>50597282

New jumper; desu I thought that was partially the point. Even as strangers with outer knowledge, we can't be entirely aware of our own reality in that place. Thankfully, we know a way out that doesn't involve killing what could be an entire world.

On the class thing, I guess it makes sense that a jumper can learn all race related classes in the span of ten years, but it does seem almost too readily exploitable. Still, thanks for the clarification!

>>50597259
Not really. I can find conflict without making people's lives worse.

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>>50597444
There's a third ending if you get five Dark Sigils from Yoel before you hit the Catacombs of Carthus and start helping Yuria out. Fire Keeper best, not to be killed.

>>50597413
You know what you guys need? To feed on the humanity of other humans!

Well yes it means I'm technically getting this Dark Party started right, and that's kind of a warning sign. But it is a far different approach than Kaathe had in DS1, which... was pretty much just throwing Abyss taint everywhere and seeing what happens. Plus if the Fire Keeper says that she can see embers and flame after the Age of Dark, then I'm gonna go with that. She's absurdly loyal, she has no reason to lie.

>>50597499
The third ending is absorbing the fire, and you said you didn't do that. You can't just do whatever. You kindle it or absorb it if you use the sigils.

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>>50597513
See >>50596987, and my build has the Sigils, so... yes, yes I did do that?

>>50597513
They didnt use another perk besides the canon method as said here >>50597357

>>50597499
Don't the Dark Sigils mean you're slowly turning into a rotting corpse.

Do all of your beauty perks mean you're turning everyone you meet into a a necrophiliac?

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>>50597630
Purging Stone purchase, so I've got a supply the second it looks like my appearance is marred from them. Boop.

Even then there's ways to get rid of the Dark Sigil after. They're means to an end and chances are once I've managed to put the First Flame into the Seedbed of Chaos I'll try to bugger them away.

>>50597630
The undead are only supposed to be a thing when the flame is dying.

>>50597691
Actually I'm pretty sure corpses are the true appearance of man. The "human" form is an illusion brought on by the First Flame.

>>50597739
The only other time we see the corpse look is before Humanity exists at all. However, even when the First Flame dies, there is the Dark Soul and thus Humanity, and it's the usage of Humanities that keep you looking fresh in 1 if you'll remember.

>>50597687
>Purging Stone
Sounds like an item from Rome, Hollywood, or the Career Model jump.

>>50597771
Nope, DS3 itself.

>-(50CP) - "Purging Stones": "Ash-colored stone encasing a skull. Inhabitants of Londor, the land of Hollows, use this secret treasure to feign normalcy. Occasionally, a Hollow fools even himself, and turns on his own kind."
>Upon being crushed in hand, it completely removes reverts hollowing back to the first stages, allowing an otherwise desiccated husk of an undead to resemble a human once more. Doesn't not cure hollowing, simply reverts the progress of it.

So it's technically something of a temp solution until I've accomplished my goals.

>>50597756
Doesn't to much humanity make you a giant monster?

>>50597838
Too much of anything turns you into a monster in dark souls. Humanity, souls, flesh, knowledge. All of it.

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For the Sburb jump, would it be possible to fuse both a Lord and a Muse classes? What about a Time and Space aspects?

Would Time combine well with Void and Doom?

>>50597813
Oh come on, how often do you get to make a induced vomiting joke? I work with what I've got.

>>50597892
>hugestokintits.meme

>>50597892
>that one fucking dragon

>>50597939
You can fuse classes? Was there an update or did I just miss that first time around?

>>50597956
That's what happens when you get too much sunlight.

>>50597974
Which one? The giant vagina one?

>>50596035
how did jumpchain get started? what was the first jump?

>>50597939
Well, you can't be a Lord or a Muse, so I'm going to guess no.

>>50597974
>fusing with a fucking dragon
Seems legit

>>50597976
Prototyping

>>50597987
Pokemon and inFamous were the first two jumps. They're in the drive under "Quicksilver's Jumps", he's the one who started this crazy chain.

>>50597998
As in the Prototype jump?

>>50597979
Praise the sun indeed.

>>50597979
>too much anything turns you into a monster
>enormous vagina looking dragon
Yes

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>>50598018
No, as in using two players to prototype a sprite

>>50597939
It's Sburb. I'm pretty sure anything is allowed. Except the stuff that isn't.

I mean, you probably could fuse a Time and Space player, but why? That would be the single most overtaxed player in all of many existences. Responsible for making sure the Time line doesn't collapse as well as making the universe frog? I mean, come on.

I really would suggest combining Time and Doom or Void. Ever. Unless you want all time lines to be doomed to destruction? Because thats how you doom time lines.

But hey, that's just me.

>>50597939
>Fusing Classes

How? Fusing classes seems difficult unless you can somehow, fuse the concepts of those classes.

Fusing a Lord and Muse class would result in a class in the middle--all of the weaknesses, but not the best of both worlds.

Time and Space are destruction and creation--combining the two would be like combining antimatter and matter. It would be terrible!

Time is rules and destruction--it would fuse well with Doom in that respect, but I don't see how it could use with Void.

>>50598052
Ah, okay. Sburb always confuses me.

>>50598052
You can also use any means of fusion that also fuses minds. I've heard Gem Fusion and that One Perk from Aquaria.

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>>50597956
I got you covered, broseph.

>>50598018
No, Prototyping is what it's called when you combine things inside your Kernalsprite. However, this is a terrible way to grant yourself a power boost. Why? Simple, one of the two prototypings HAS to be done pre-entry to the Incipisphere. Pre-entry prototypings grant their powers to all the enemies in the game. So either every enemy gets the powers of whatever extremely strong thing you were trying to fuse with, or every enemy gets your own powers. Either way, you've just boned yourself. Sure, the degree to which they get your powers scales with the monster's level, but there are plenty of high-level monsters. Just because the Jumper-Imps aren't a threat doesn't mean that Jumper-Lich Queens won't be.

>>50597939
Aside from things already brought up... Lord and Muse are the two most Active and most Passive classes.

They're complete opposites, so trying to fuse them would likely make for one unstable/explosive fusion.

>>50598086
>That One Perk
...Dare I ask?

>>50598086
Or dark contract from Ravenloft

>>50598155
>Song of Discovery (600 CP) (Discount Restlessness): There are places of power within Aquaria, where the Verse resonates and echoes until it becomes something new. Within those places, you have learned how to change your own song as well, allowing you to be similarly transformed. Whenever you discover a location which truly captivates you, you will be able to learn the unique song of that environment; when voiced, it will reshape you into a being reflecting its unique beauty, with abilities befitting this new form. However, only one such song may be sung (though know known) at a time; you cannot sing another while so transformed.
I just forgot the name.

>>50598135
Or a Yin-Yang harmony. However that is a long shot.

>>50598116
Thanks famalamamamma.

Through tits, unity.

>>50598179
I think you meant Song of Union, anon.
>Song of Union (600 CP) (Discount Loneliness): Perhaps the greatest secret of the Verse, you have learned to bind your song with the song of another who you have formed a deep and powerful bond with, combining your separate voices into a single harmony and becoming one being. With aspects of both you and your partner, this form will have the ability to call upon the powers of both, and even unite your abilities to create something greater than the sum of its parts. As with all songs of similar power, only one may be maintained at a time; to unite with a second companion in this way, you must first return to your separate forms.

>>50598228
Through unity, tits.

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>>50598228
You're quite welcome. Always happy to aid a good cause.

>>50598179
>>50598263
Well those are cool as fuck.

>>50598263
Shit, sorry, I was watching a video and didn't really pay that much attention.

So after reading through some H. P. Lovecraft and some Exalted stuff as well I have to ask. How does Perfect Shaping Defensive Charms measure against the Eldritch Abominations of the Lovecraft Jump?
I mean the charms are basically anti-reality warping, from my understanding of the wording on the fluff in the Dragonblooded and Core Rulebook. So, how's it measure up?

>>50598363
To clarify my statement I mean how does it measure in context with the Drawbacks available?

>>50598328
Aquaria is a very underrated, both the Jump and the game it is based on.

>>50598328
Aquaria is a rather fun setting, and the jump has some neat stuff to play with.
It's just that since its not a very well know game, and its a low-power one to boot, it tends to be overlooked here. Which is a shame.

>>50598363
Dragonbloods would get stomped by the lesser Great Old Ones, that "perfect" defense is going to do very little against the Outer Gods.

>>50598430
Dragonbloods don't even get shaping defenses.

>>50598363
The general ruling most people are operating under is that perfect defense is a concept dependent on the native metaphysics of Exalted. While usually magic functions as it would in its native universe, perfect defenses trumping everything is actually a local condition in Exalted. The Primordial known as Qaf wrote that rule into the physical laws of Creation and all the realms bordering it. There are conceptual realms in the Beyond where his alterations to the shinma don't apply. So while "perfect" defenses are still very strong ones outside of Exalted, they're not all-defeating. They might be able to protect against a Great Old One, if you backed it up with enough magical power, but don't rely on just the PD to keep you safe.

>>50598443
Not individualy, no, but they can use them as groups. Unless I'm thinking of something else.

>>50598430
>Great Old Ones
Eh, Cthulhu isn't that impressive compared to Exalted.

Outer Gods might be pretty out there though, from what I hear.

>>50598404
And drawbacks are drawback fiat.

>>50598443
>>50598502
Chaos-Warding Prana would like to have a word with you, anons.

>>50598363
It really depends on what Eldritch Abominations your talking about. I'd say it would still work on the one's dependent on dimensional space. Once you get to the Outer Gods then it'll probably go badly. Mostly because they kind of dwarf anything in Exalted by at least one infinity.

>>50598363
Depends on how high up the scale you go. Shit like Azazoth would destroy EXalted by burping, the Mi-go not so much. Basically if something can play concept ball it can probably start to play against perfect defenses.

>>50598430
Solars would stomp GOO, probably couldn't deal with Outer Gods though.

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>>50598418
>>50598423
Huh. How did I miss this Jump? It's very well written and looks to have a ton of interesting concepts. I may have to buy the game. It looks like it could be a cool world to dive into.

>>50598461
Fuck if I know how Exalted works but PErfect defenses work in stages. It basically goes
1.Attack hits perfect defense
2.Defense goes "I'm perfect" and blocks the attack
3.If the attack is perfect it goes "I'm also perfect so I breach perfect defenses. I hit anyway"
4.Perfect defenses then go "Actually I also block attacks that can break a perfect defense."
So if an attack were to have another stage added on where it goes "I break defenses that block things which break any defense." It might work.

Fuck if I know Exalted well enough to say that confidently though.

>>50597995
I'm using this for an End Jump (it's around my 500 Jump). I'm waiting for Infernals, Metroid and a few others to finish my chain for once.

>>50598135
>>50598070
I was thinking on the lines of >>50598180

They don't seem like opposites that would destroy each other, but complement each other.

>>50598671
Not exactly. Every perfect defense in Exalted does have a weakness, but they're activation conditions rather than holes in the armor. There's no way to penetrate a perfect defense, but it is possible to keep someone from using one in the first place. You can't do a "I defeat defenses that defeat attacks that defeat defenses" chain of one-upsmanship, you just prevent them from defending properly in the first place.

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How do you reward failure, Jumpers?

Do you have a stock punishment, or do you tailor your retribution to the occasion? Are you a gentle taskmaster, or are you known for your brutality?

>>50598751
Why ask if you're not going to listen?

>>50598780
How do perfect defenses actually work? Because my understanding is they're kind of like Noble Phantasm where they block shit by conceptually stopping it but if you could play concept ball hard enough even something they should block wouldn't be blocked.

>>50598780
You might be able to. Exalted doesn't get primacy on bullshit conceptual abilities, even ignoring the fact that there are perks that would let you punch through Perfection anyways.

>>50598800
we're all a team, so usually we sit around and discuss what happened and how we prevent it from happening again. Punishment is really only reserved for extreme, repeated failure. I've neved gotten to thag point yet so I haven't thought of a suitable punishment.

>>50598430
So that's the Run, Hide, and Dawn of the Old Gods Drawbacks right? I think Dawn of the Old Gods might actaully be safer since it's mostly Dagon and Cthulhu coming to play ball in comparison to Narly and Sub. Yog is, from the little I've learned in my reading, actually really cool with humanity and likes to hit on women and club it up for the most part.

>>50598443
Er this guy >>50598515 got there before me.

>>50598461
>>50598671
So basically when any two absolutes hit one another, instead of the Defense being the default winner it turns into a roll off? (Meaning the guy with the more likelihood of success, more dice in Exalted's crunch, usually wins.)

>>50598515
>Drawback fiat
Hide states you can't run because she can always follow.
Run states that Narly is aware of your location at all times.
Dawn of the Old Gods states that you have to survive basically with the Stars Right all the time.
None of them say that you can't have Reality Warping Defenses as far as I can tell.

>>50598562
Narly is in Run but I don't know if he's bending every resource at you.
Sub is in Hide and for the first five years it's just a fight between you and her kids.
Dawn of the Old Gods is the big one with Yog coming into the world via incarnation, and because I don't think it was made to be a trap option I'm assuming that he isn't turning the local mutiverse inside out through his presence somehow. However as I've said above Yog is a pretty cool dude, though a terrible dad as far as I can tell.
These are the guys that I might encounter on my Jump, and the Drawbacks that I'm thinking of taking.

>>50598571
I don't think the Demon Sultan is waking in any of the Drawbacks.

>>50598855
From what I understand the way things usually work is just as you said, however outside of Creation the Defensive Primacy is gone, just from what I've read these posts.

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Who have you given a giant robot to recently?

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>>50598939
THAT IS NOT THE IMAGE I MEANT TO ATTACH!

>>50598855
They're defenses of any kind (examples include parries, dodges, turning into shadows, letting an attack break against your momentarily-invulnerable body, briefly altering the laws of physics to make the attack impossible, and other exotic weirdness) that tap into the conceptual ideas of "perfect combat" that Qaf established back when the Primordials were crafting universes to give themselves priority over even the greatest attack. Qaf is really into kung fu, so he set things up so that drawn-out duels were possible instead of everyone one-shotting their opponents. That's why perfect defenses trump perfect attacks. You could defeat the alterations to the Shinma that he made (Shinma are the underlying conceptual principles of reality, in Exalted's multiverse), but it would probably take significant mojo to do.

>>50598869
I was talking about just within the metaphysics of Exalted, not considering out of jump stuff. Establishing a baseline, before we modify things.

>>50598915
Yog Sothoth is basically harmless. He can't get into reality on his own, he needs someone to summon him. If the summoner didn't have anything in mind, he just hangs out mainly. Otherwise he has to do what the summoner wants, which since cultists are insane is usually something nasty.

Basically a lot of cultists want Yog Sothoth to knock them up since he's one of the biggest of the big. And sometimes those kids look like monsters but aren't innately evil (it's humanity that makes them bad etc etc) or sometimes they look like humans but have neat powers. He's been known to contact, talk to, and occasionally help out his kids. Like the protagonist of one of Lovecraft's book was one of Yog's kids. After going through a bunch of nonsense, he ended up dying, but only because when Yog asked him if he could handle it he said "Yeah dad I got this I mastered my powers." when he actually didn't. So his fault.

>>50598939
Well, I've been doing Gundam jumps lately, so...everyone. Literally everyone gets a giant robot.

>>50598939
Valeria would Unlimited Maid Works be an acceptable reality marble for the new Fate jump?

>>50598958
One of my favorite perfect defenses is Kimbery's. Hers lets you absorb any wound without taking damage or losing ability as long as you take an acceptable mutation on where you got hit. The example given is to have someone cut off your arm, but for the arm to reattach to you by a bunch of tentacles.

Is it the best? Holy shit no. But it's cool.

>>50596320
I tend to hold three together Charity, Patience, & Kindness.

>>50599055
>Is it the best? Holy shit no. But it's cool.
That's kind of Kimbery's theme in general. Her charmset isn't the best, but it's just so stylish.

>>50598979
Ah yeah that's a good point. So he's basically going to be hanging around clubbing and being a nice guy to his kids, whilst also being a sanity devastating monster maybe.

>>50599055
I saw someone talking about the Abyssal Perfect Soak and looked at it Wounds Mean Nothing sounds horrifying to watch. The Kibery thing is something we can get in Mortal Heroes right?

>>50599084
To get the best out of her, you really need to use her as a supplement to another yozi's charmset. Which since she can only be taken as a favored and not a caste yozi, is workable.

>>50599085
It's super nasty. But she also has a charm that lets you wash away any mutation instantly if you bathe in the ocean.

>The Kibery thing is something we can get in Mortal Heroes right?
I don't remember what essence level it is. If it's low enough for the Lintha to get it, then yes.

>>50596035
What are the safest jumps? I want to be careful.

>>50599055
>The Kibery thing is something we can get in Mortal Heroes right?
Yes, Sea Dissolves Herself is Essence 3, meaning it comes in under the Essence limit for the Lintha capstone's access to her charms. Do note that it only perfectly defends against Shaping and Crippling attacks, for raw damage you need Bitter Heart Unbleeding (which is also Essence 3. Well, Essence 2, but it's a non-perfect defense until it upgrades at Essence 3. It's weird like that). For how I'd treat that narratively, I'd think of it as the mutations draining enough energy from your metabolism that your total health is still lowered by the attack that cut off your arm, you just still have use of it. Kind of like perks that make you function on an HP system.

>>50599085
>Wounds Mean Nothing sounds horrifying to watch
Well, yeah. That's half the point, no?

>The Kibery thing is something we can get in Mortal Heroes right?
Probably not? Perfect defences aren't accessible to God-Blooded, which Lintha technically count as.

>>50599174
9 to 5
pokemon
generic magical girl
aria
disney princess

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Jumpers, let's talk about nice things. What happened recently in your chain that ended up great?

>>50599174
Hero BBS; you can determine what type of world you go to and what type of demon king you need to deal with, why not be a hero summoned for political marriage to the hot demon Queen?

>>50599184
Awesome!

>>50599188
>Half the point, no?
True.

>Probably not?
Ah it'd be cool since the thing that makes you a Pseudo-God gives you Perfects.

>>50599203
>>50599236
Thanks, will check them out.

>>50599184
That's against RAW so I wouldn't agree with that at all. Makes it not worth the mote cost.

>>50599174
Both Super Smash Bros and No Game No Life are pretty much impossible to be killed in unless you take the capstone drawbacks

>>50599230
My time as a Slasher has helped my to understand the base violence of human nature.

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>>50598819
Listen to what? Two (three) of the replies didn't knew what I was talking about, something that's on the very same jump, other said it was possible and other that they would explode simply because they're opposite.

But the fusions brought in canon have shown some pretty weird fusions being stable and quite powerful. For example, Lord English is a fusion of a Lord of Time, a Heir of Void, a Bard of Rage, and maybe a Prince of Heart (if we count Lil Hal as that class). Erisolsprite was also pretty weird (Hope/Doom).

And the jump says that you should get the strength of all of them, no their weakness and less strengths.

>>50599174
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. You can't die.

>>50599298
It's not against RAW. Sea Dissolves Itself is a perfect defense against Shaping and Crippling effects. The Crippling effect of an attack is separate from the damage.

>>50599408
Don't be an asshole anon.

>>50599371
>Lord English is a fusion
Wait, really?

>>50599417
Do you really want to start a rules lawyering argument?

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How do you sleep for twenty hours? Anyway I noticed some stuff so I'll just comment on them.

>>50599243
I may have not made this clear when I was putting Mortal Heroes up but the perks that grant Perfect effects do so by Jump Fiat. They are supposed to represent the end-point of Mortal Heroes, with God-Blooded turning into Gods being the inspiration for Creation’s Natural Warrior Pattern Engraining Meditations and Demon-Blooded (Yozi-Blooded really) turning into full on Demon's being the inspiration for Mother Sea’s Returning Tide. The apex, and usual end goal, of power in the Mortal Hero games is what I wanted to exemplify with the 800 point perks.

Hope that clarifies some things.

How nasty could Dinotopia get for a very early Jumper?

>>50598939
...Is that zouken?

>>50599446
It's not rules lawyering, though? It's pretty explicit in the text. An attack can have its Crippling aspect removed from it while still dealing damage.

>>50599487
No. It's Fate Zero Caster.

>>50599482
Eaten by a T-Rex or any number of other predatory dinos.

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>>50599435
Yes. Weird things happened in an alternate time-line. Three people got trapped (one already being a fusion) into Lil Cal, and now Lord English exist. In every universe and time-line.

He emerges from Doc Scratch because Lil Cal was used to create Doc Scratch in the first place. And that's how he is able to posses a Jack Noir through Lil Cal.

I should also mention that Arquiusprite is supposedly a Heir/Prince, and he is one of the strongest sprites out there without having First Guardian's bullshit. While the jump says it's probably bad to attempt that combination.

>>50599499
Thats.... Better?

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>>50599487
Blue Beard I think.

>>50599482
>>50599505
Basically the thing that the anon said. If you are as durable as a tank you should be safe from everything but the odd not-magic of the place.

>>50599539
Not really?

>>50599471
>Perfects are a thing for Capstones that give them!
Awesome!

>>50599570
>Not really
I'd rather get killed than be tossed into a pit of 'happiness worms'.

>>50599489
So that's a yes.

>With Essence 4+, she can also block Crippling effects by gaining a mutation, paying only three motes if the mutation connects to the averted injury (like a severedhand staying attached via sinewy tentacle).

Averted injury.

>>50599629
>'happiness worms'
Is that how we're calling them these days?

>>50599643
Yes, it averts the Crippling injury. Meanwhile, the damaging-but-not-Crippling injury persists. It's two separate effects that just go along with each other.

>>50599702
Nah, just something I saw a while ago.

>>50599751
The crippling is an aspect of the injury. It's not two separate attacks.

>>50599629
>happiness worms
ARE NOT A THING.

>>50599828
Rape worms, then?

>>50599799
No, but it is two separate effects. Sea Dissolves Itself averts the injury that would cause Crippling and converts it into one that just causes damage. Just like every other charm that protects against Crippling effects. You're not going to win this one. It makes no sense for Sea Dissolves Itself to be a perfect defense against damage. For one thing, it has no Imperfection, which (Rules As Written) all perfect defenses against damage have. For another, it's resolved as an innate power rather than a charm activation, which together with lacking an Imperfection would make it far superior to Bitter Heart Unbleeding despite the two mote greater cost, so there would be no reason to have that charm exist.

>>50599872
Exactly.

"Kotomine! I shall require YARN!" Is still one of my favourite quotes ever.

>>50599629
Gil does basically the same thing with tentacle monsters though. He also turns people into living instruments.

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>>50599872
How about mind rape worms?

>>50599926
*Gilles

>>50599941
ayyyy

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>>50599962
Here have a gif for that.

>>50599941
Still not as noxious as Illithid.

>>50600000

Ay, exams are done. I'm a free man! I've got an entire month to get stupid again.

But first I'll finish JLD and Occult within a week or two. Probably. Maybe.

>>50596077

Dark Souls III

Irithyll of Boreal Valley
Male
Undead Legion

Rare Vitality - 150
Pyromancy - 150

Yearning For Warmth - 400
Leverage - 0
Blood Oath - 300
Chaos Seed - 400

Salvaged Equipment - 0
Estus Flasks - 0

Karla - 200

Phantoms of the Past + 0
Directionally Challenged + 100
Lacking Sense + 200
Phantom Mess + 300

So, back here again. But things have really gone to shit since last time... And that's saying something.

The world aches for a death to the Flame, even as the Flame redirects fallen champions to link.it once more. All things decay as the First Sin decays reality itself.

The rules must be obeyed. The Cycle must continue as intended, lest all things fracture and rot to the point of no return.

But fuck that. What's the point of being a Jumper if you play by the same rules as everyone else?

The plan here is to use Dresden Files magic to create a thaumaturgic link between the Dark Soul (which I took from Manus in old Oolacile) and all of humanity. Then, I'll take the Crown of the True Monarch and infuse the Dark Soul into it. This will need an incredible amount of magical energy to sustain for any length of time, so I'll tie the enchantment to a copy of Pandora's Box for a fuel source.

If all goes as planned, mankind will be removed from the Cycle entirely. This is only a temporary solution, but it buys me time to find a more permanent fix post-spark. The world is still decaying, but I can fuck with the Flame without accidentally turning humans into an unending legion of Abyss monsters or insane zombies. Probably.

>>50600001
>Eyyy! - You're a cool guy - you can bang malfunctioning machinery to make it work and your jet-skiing abilities are downright ridiculous.

Best perk in the entire Drive right there.

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>>50600083
>you can bang malfunctioning machinery to make it work

>>50599892
>converts it into one that just causes damage
Where does it say that?

>>50600104
Make sure to get a tetanus shot first.

>>50600105
The fact that it stops Crippling effects. Not Crippling attacks, Crippling effects. So damage still applies. Check the corebook, that's how charms that prevent Crippling work. But I presume that you'll continue to keep niggling on inconsequential little details and ambiguous wording all so that you can justify your powerwanking. though I doubt you really care about the charm, you just want to have an argument. And like a fool, I've obliged you. So what I'm saying is, fuck off, after this post I shall be ignoring you.

>>50600058
...Y'see kids, that's what happens when you're an idiot.

Ay, exams are done. I'm a free man! I've got an entire month to get stupid again.
But first I'll finish JLD and Occult within a week or two. Probably. Maybe.

>>50596077

Dark Souls III

Irithyll of Boreal Valley
Male
Undead Legion

Rare Vitality - 150
Pyromancy - 150

Yearning For Warmth - 400
Leverage - 0
Blood Oath - 300
Chaos Seed - 400

Salvaged Equipment - 0
Estus Flasks - 0

Karla - 200

Phantoms of the Past + 0
Directionally Challenged + 100
Lacking Sense + 200
Phantom Mess + 300

So, back here again. But things have really gone to shit since last time... And that's saying something.

The world aches for a death to the Flame, even as the Flame redirects fallen champions to link.it once more. All things decay as the First Sin decays reality itself.

The rules must be obeyed. The Cycle must continue as intended, lest all things fracture and rot to the point of no return.

But fuck that. What's the point of being a Jumper if you play by the same rules as everyone else?

The plan here is to use Dresden Files magic to create a thaumaturgic link between the Dark Soul (which I took from Manus in old Oolacile) and all of humanity. Then, I'll take the Crown of the True Monarch and infuse the Dark Soul into it. This will need an incredible amount of magical energy to sustain for any length of time, so I'll tie the enchantment to a copy of Pandora's Box for a fuel source.

If all goes as planned, mankind will be removed from the Cycle entirely. This is only a temporary solution, but it buys me time to find a more permanent fix post-spark. The world is still decaying, but I can fuck with the Flame without accidentally turning humans into an unending legion of Abyss monsters or insane zombies. Probably.

>>50600140
It says it prevents the injury, anon.

This isn't a perk that stops all attacks. Just ones that aim to cripple.

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>>50600136
Might not be necessary, but I appreciate your concern.

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Jumpers! How do you space? What was your first experience like? Were you a pioneer? Have you tried to help propel humanity to the stars?

Press F to Pay Respects

>>50600193
I'm just saying practice safe sex. Wear a drill bit or something while you go in.

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>>50600315
>safe sex
Aww yeah.

Haven't checked this in a few months, can anyone tell me what new jumps are being worked on? I'm kinda curious whats coming up.

>>50596627
Pretty sure Flame Sorcery actually came from the Witch's Life Soul.

>>50600273
Oh, fuck. He's dead? Well, that's sad. I met him a couple times when I was a kid, actually. He came to my school, twice. Once in his role as a senator talking to children about world affairs, once as an astronaut speaking to our science department. We had this dinky little NASA simulator station that we had built in some spare rooms off of the library, he came to see us reenact his mission. He was really cool about it, treated it with seriousness that it frankly didn't deserve. It was a pretty exciting experience for a twelve year-old with a love of space.

>>50600273
No. Fuck you. Do not tell me this shit. I can't take it.

>>50600273
>How do you space?

I become a star And join the great dance of the spheres.

>What was your first experience like?

imagine being crushed under the weight of newfound perspective, that's pretty much it

>Were you a pioneer?

I was in Starfleet so not really

>>Have you tried to help propel humanity to the stars?

I always do, it's impossible to have the experience of watching everyone and everything you have ever known shrink to the size of a pin prick and not realize so many petty disputes would be solved by the realization of the meaninglessness of boundaries If only everyone could share this moment.

>>50600273
I usually give humanity help with making it to space when I can. In Evangelion I kind of had to, considering the Earth was fucked beyond repair and probably dying.

>>50600273
>>50600620
Also: F. Can't believe he's gone.

>>50596077
Those 100 CP drawbacks are just stupidly brutal for the price.

Which jumps have the most freeform style magic? ie: wave your hand and it rains flower petals, turn your jacket inside out and suddenly wearing new unrelated outfit, set the table with spontaneous copies of one dish of food.

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>>50600533
>>50600577
>>50600638
I got a little teary too, anons. He had an amazing run, though: 95 years, war hero, first American to orbit the Earth, and a Senator. Any of us should be so lucky. So spill a little for him, jumpers. I know I will.

>>50600676
JLD maybe?

>>50600676
King Arthur, Belgariad, Inheritance, Xiaolin Showdown, etc.

>>50600273
Well, now that I'm over the sadness (at least a little bit):

I like the old-fashioned space travel methods. Reactionless drive and FTL and all that nonsense takes the wonder out of space, to me. What's cool about space travel is all the crazy stuff you need to get it to work. So I like nuclear-thermal rockets, and beam-rider plasma sails, and insane bootstrapped launch methods to get us into orbit in the first place. Space travel is the hardest engineering problem mankind has, I'm not going to insult our engineers by trivializing it with my out of context technology. Do this the way they could, if they just had the resources, to prove that they deserve the stars.

>>50600731
>Belgariad
Holy shit there's a Belariad jump? Where is it, I'm not seeing it on the drive. Is it named something strange?

>>50600759
Oh shit, nope. Sorry to get your hopes up, anon. But King Arthur has Belgariad-esque magic if it's any consolation.

>>50600273
>>50600683
His wife passed as well, I heard.

>>50600496
Then it wouldn't have weakened before she corrupted it, but they were inventing pyromancy beforehand.

>>50600790
Now I'm sad. I would try to write it myself if I though I had any sort of chance of doing it justice.

>>50600886
I know that feel. Same reason I don't do phantom tollbooth.

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>>50600273
God damn it. 2016 needs to knock it off. It's like what would happen if Deadpool broke up Lady Death and she just threw herself into work.

>>50600886
Will you at least try, anon? I'd love a Belgariad jump.

>>50601062
We still have little more than half of December left. I have feeling we're going start seeing massive die offs. We got ton of 70-90+ year old celebs/public figures that aren't in best of shape. If not in Dec, we'll see them in early 2017.

From Endless Legend Notes, on Public Library:

>Still, the information is retained, and you can study it later. Secrets plans, forbidden knowledge, covert messages, are still hidden away, although you still find a few notes, pieces of information here and there that can lead you to great discoveries. It won't give you the Death Star's blueprints, but it will give you a suspicious looking cargo manifest to some unknown region of space, and coordinates to it. Like the secrets of Auriga, the greater the secret in other universes, the less information you will pull from the Library, you still need to find it as well, and it will never be anything resembling complete, just scraps and clues.

What exactly counts as "secret", "forbidden", and "covert"? Is it relative? Say, for example, because I'm a member of the secret wizarding society in Harry Potter, would it then include some knowledge on that? Similarly, if I became the Headmaster at Hogwarts or leader of a nefarious cult, would the Library then fill up with (formerly) forbidden or secret texts?

>>50600273
>>50601062
Whoever took the Darkest Timeline drawback... Fuck you.

>>50600676
Narnian Magic (Witchcraft) is pretty undefined, yet powerful.

>>50601304
If you can't get that information in a public library, you won't find it in yours. There is leeway for lesser secrets, like the common library in Hogwarts, but not the forbidden section. Getting higher clearance doesn't affect the contents of the library.

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>>50596320
>>50596680

>>50596363
"(generic false name), (noncombative senior military rank), surprise inspection"

>>50600273
Well, damn.

>How do you space

I pandimensionally fold it around myself, enlightening myself to be everywhere and nowhere at once. Then I collapse the waveform to be where and whenever I need to be.

It may seem like teleportation, but it's actually a lot faster in relative terms.

>>50600676
I'd have to go with Gargoyles', or Buffy's.

>>50596627
Neat! Can't wait to see what you get out of that from tinkering with the Primordial Crystal.

Speeking of merging Dark Souls elements, assuming you have a means to control quasi-spiritual entities on a miniscule level (Nanohollows), the capstone-boosted They Who Hate Life/Twice As Bright perks from Boktai as well as Darkness Tree, JLD's little magic trick of cloning a whole soul from a part-and a /unique/ soul like that of the Last Dragonborn, do you think it would be worth tapping into Twisted Faith/the Deep Cathedral's power in order into turning into into something more suited for your purposes?

I'd quite like to harness the Dark for reasons, but from what I can tell the Deep seems to have arisen from a combination of the broken cycle allowing Humanity to stagnate and the Dark infecting Nito's old dominion-or at least the giants' tomb, so it seemed like a step in the wrong direction. At the same time, it does seem to a darker form of the dark, so I'm torn.

>>50599629
Well, from a certain perspective you really can't have too many worms.

Will the new Inheritance Cycle Hero Slayer Perk protect you from John Constantine's Plot armor?

>>50601525
John Constantine doesn't have literal plot armor, does he? That sounds too crazy even for DC.

I thought he was just an amazing bluffer, with a penchant for selling shit that doesn't belong to him. Like other people's souls.

>>50601434
Can you organize the information or how it manifests at all? Like, can I say that /this/ huge bookshelf/section is for knowledge from /this/ world, or is it entirely random?

>common library in Hogwarts
Would I have to be a member of that society? Because while there are a few people who know about it, the Wizarding community is secret to the world at large and rather small (thousands of people, iirc).

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>>50601268
Not if I can help it. Time to get Lady Death her groove back. I hear Thanos has been trying to get her attention. Time for a blind date, a call to Deadpool, and Shenanigans. If romantic comedies have taught me anything, it's that this plan is full proof.

>>50601368
Wasn't me. I already took amnesia and total powerlessness. I can't imagine I needed more points than that for anything. If it turns out it was me, I'm sorry guys.

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>>50601569
>John Constantine doesn't have literal plot armor, does he?

>>50601525
No.

>>50601569
He might as well. His manipulative skills are basically equal to Batman's preptime.

>>50601475
>the Primordial Crystal.
You mean the one Seathe uses? That's easy. Crystal Sorcery. Seath already uses it and you can too in the games. Just beware that it has a habit of spreading infectious crystals around.

>>50601569
Well, Constantine does pay the price of power in a very roundabout way at times, and Synchronicity Wave Travelling does explain some weird shit.

Anyway, what I'm getting at here is that while Constantine does have active plot armor it's not as bad as people say.

And, while I learned about it while studying Hypercrisis bullshit (so for all I know it's just a bunch of writers doing strange stuff on the down low) there is a possibility that all the magic in the DC universe actively meddles with stuff in order to make the whole superhero game work, both for good (Batman living at all) and ill (Luthor/Joker/[Insert Supervillain Here] not getting killed). So, you know, that second statement is pretty hilarious to me.

>>50601475
>a certain perspective
And which perspective would that be, a waifuing perspective?

>>50601569
>John Constantine doesn't have literal plot armor, does he?
He has a kind of plot armor. He takes damage, sorta, but never enough to kill him. Mostly it beats him up and fills him with regret. Why regret? Because his plot armor works by sacrificing anyone near and or dear to him. Oh, and the plot armor almost universally fucks over whoever attacked him.

And there's this thing where sometimes he does intentionally horrible shit for a variety of reasons, most of them being that he's kinda of a horrible person. He does genuinely heroic shit from time to time, don't get me wrong, but to call him a flawed hero is to say that the US government has some debt.

>That sounds too crazy even for DC.
Clearly you aren't very familiar with DC.

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>>50598363
Depends on who you're fighting, as other folks have said. The Great Old Ones and assorted alien races? Go to town.

The Outer Gods are where it starts to get interesting. Exalted actually does have entities comparable to them-not the Primordials, but the Shinma: The logical outcome of a completely animistic universe, which are mysterious spirits that define fundamental concepts like Existence and Corrosion and Conflict.

Nobody's ever directly "challenged" one since much like Azathoth, they seem to be either not sentient as we understand the term or find it impossible to interact on a scale even the infinite Primordials defined as a journey into the unknown. Across the limitless expanse of the Wyld-they're constant and omnipresent. There's some references to SWLIHN and other Primordials manipulating them, and at E7 Solars may learn a Charm to create miracles by meditating and becoming a conduit for their power. l

...which is a really longwinded way to basically say "I dont know, but this is really really top-tier stuff that normally falls outside regular combat and goes into whatever the ST thinks is the coolest at any given moment territory", especially when E10 Solar charms explicitly cover things even the Primordials don't fully understand. Which may as well be a moot point given we've no direct access to those yet.

In short, if you absolutely have to it's a better idea to hide behind Fair Eyes than use your own PD.

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>>50596167
>Speaking of [The Tools We Are Given], would it be untenable to change its restriction from "can't take it if this is the first jump" to "gives no CP if this is the first jump"?
Seems reasonable, will change.

>Ego Bridge
>I assume this also works for Companions
Yep, and also for other weird creatures you may encounter in other jumps. It's more flexible than just the Forking/resleeving perks, since you can use it to put a fork directly into a biological body, or erase an ego from a body that's in use.

>How angry is Firewall going to be at me with this drawback and the DLC?
Probably very, but it is possible to manage your cell remotely - you'd just have to put your trust in them to do things properly and not be seen actually doing Firewall things.

>Also, can these sensors survive in the sun's corona or is my vacation spot free of them?
Virtually all transhuman habs, even coronal habs, have spimes. As for the open corona itself, maybe the spime is planted on someone following you around, maybe it's actually millions of kilometers away, but it's just got a really good zoom.

>Black Mark
>Can you take this multiple times?
Original intention was no. But since I upped the drawback cap and didn't put any more drawbacks in I should probably allow it.

>Morph Dysphoria
>Seems kinda weird
I had to pick a standard that the local tech can replicate, so the bodymod standard it was.

>does having Bodymod Biomorph satisfy the requirements of the drawback
Yes, but only for morphs with the "H" next to them in the morph list.

>>50597177
>I can also just add more Microbots to my Swarmanoid/Skulker swarm as normal, which is retained by the altform, right?
In theory. Adding more microbots to a skulker/swarmanoid isn't really supported in the EP rules, so you stray into fanwank territory, but it sounds reasonable.

>>50601488
Did you ever find out what was at the bottom of SCP-087, Jumpers?

>>50601475
That trick worked because the souls in JLD are repeatedly described as "like a hologram; each piece contains the whole". Not sure if other souls would be the same.

Also, Dragonborn souls aren't THAT unique, are they? They're just dragon souls in a mortal body.

>>50601569
Eeehhh. Sorta.

http://hellblazer.wikia.com/wiki/Synchronicity_Wave_Travelling

He doesn't NEED plot armor, though.

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>>50601569
Depends on which Constantine, really.

From what I understand the original one bluffed so hard the distinction between his con skills and his magic skills was a little blurry. But otherwise, he's "just" a ruthless asshole with massive chip on his shoulder.

I forgot if the Synchronicity Wave stuff was introduced during or after the original Hellblazer run, but that stuff was essentially actual plot armor I think.

>>50601647
I mean more becoming one with the First Flame, THEN using it to poke the Crystal with to see what happens.

>>50601687
...I swear I was just making a dank reference to some fanfic

>>50601475
>I pandimensionally fold it around myself, enlightening myself to be everywhere and nowhere at once. Then I collapse the waveform to be where and whenever I need to be.
>It may seem like teleportation, but it's actually a lot faster in relative terms.
You're just saying words at this point.

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>>50601797
I happen to have a LOT of souls floating around inside myself. I tend to mass produce them in order to do science and so forth. Sometimes I glue a few together to see what happens.

Now that said-our resident Elder Scrolls buffs put it better but it turns out the Last Dragonborn's really IS that unique. I'm still a little baffled and horrified by the implications this could all have had on my entire chain, but-let's just say I'm starting to wonder if Prayala saw even more in me than I thought I knew.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/50556903/#q50556963

>>50601845
What else is he supposed to say? Colors?

>>50601845
That's how words work sempai

Do try and keep up

>>50601866
I really don't see why that affects your whole chain.

>>50601569
Superman has plot armor. Both literal and LITERAL. They built him a suit out of plot once.

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>>50601747
>Yep, and also for other weird creatures you may encounter in other jumps. It's more flexible than just the Forking/resleeving perks, since you can use it to put a fork directly into a biological body, or erase an ego from a body that's in use.
Cool.

>Virtually all transhuman habs, even coronal habs, have spimes. As for the open corona itself, maybe the spime is planted on someone following you around, maybe it's actually millions of kilometers away, but it's just got a really good zoom.
Damn stalkers and their ridiculous zoom/light filters.

>Original intention was no. But since I upped the drawback cap and didn't put any more drawbacks in I should probably allow it.
Nice. The second one of those will actually get me to the cap then.


>In theory. Adding more microbots to a skulker/swarmanoid isn't really supported in the EP rules, so you stray into fanwank territory, but it sounds reasonable.
Huh, okay... I thought it was kinda supported, because I got the idea from looking up the Morph on the wiki. Since apparently Swarmanoids are mentioned to have some special rules there?

https://eclipse-phase.wikispaces.com/Swarmanoid+Special+Rules

>>50601889
There's difference between saying words to convey meaning, and just vomiting up various things and copy-pasting them together.

>>50601747
Speaking of Eclipse Phase. How much do you actually get from the various genetic samples on purchase?

Like, the Morph Genetics Library. I assume it gets a tons of basic human genetic profiles, and stuff like Furies and Rusters. But does it also get you the less-human stuff like Salamanders or Venusian Gliders?

And does Animal Genetics Library include stuff like Novacrabs and Suryas and Uplifts, or just basic animal and reconstructions?

Where would something like a Selkie fall under, as a human-seal hybrid thing?


And it feels weird that there's no similar thing for making Synths? But then I'm not really that knowledgeable about EP, so maybe that's easier to get for the robot-builders amongst us?

So, you decide to hit up a 40k jump. Assuming for the moment that you possess the means...Do you heal The Emperor?

>>50602293
Not until post-spark where I can stay and babysit all the factions into prosperity.

Why don't Space Marine's ever become Living Saints?

>>50602129
I'll try to break it down, as I read it

>I pandimensionally fold it around myself, enlightening myself to be everywhere and nowhere at once.
He creates a waveform that makes him aware of everything whilst being everywhere but no where. (Omnipresence/sense and Time Stop via being 'Nowhere'and thus no longer tied to space/change until...)
>Then I collapse the waveform to be where and whenever I need to be.
He drops the Omnipresence/sense to a singular point, that isn't 'nowhere'
>It may seem like teleportation, but it's actually a lot faster in relative terms.
Just him noting how teleportation is movement over a distance without moving through the space between, still needing a little, micro seconds or something, amount of time, whereas his proposed ability stops time reposions you in that same moment and then restarts time. At least that's what I'm getting out of this from having read A Wrinkle in Time.

Just trying to help but I have no idea what combo he's working under that can allow this in Jumpchain.
Garlock if you could provide the Combo in question?

>>50602321
Space Marines don't generally think of the Emperor as a god. They see him as a sort of father or ancestor and an unquestionable authority, but not as a literal deity. Some of them disagree, of course. The Grey Knights are rather religious iirc. However, a non-godly view is the majority.

>>50602321
Emps might be a bit pissed with all his kids, and thus the kids of his kids, or they don't really need the boost whilst these young ladies and men of faith and steel will are utterly boned if not for becoming a Living Saint? No idea just what I can come up with on the fly as a theory.

>>50602356
So the whole "Glorious God Emperor" thing is just a meme?

>>50602407
All ideas are potential memes. Look up the definition of the word.

>>50602356
Most still pray to him before battle.

The Imperial Creed and the Inquisition are still a thing, you know.

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>>50601948
Well, for starters?

There's a non-zero chance my whole raison d'etre was motivated by a reincarnated primordial void entity being frustrated and rebelling against his purpose, for one. So Jumper Me has even less to do with IRL Me than I suspected, because I was either a bit of Lorkhan all along, or accidentally started to turn into him.

There's also the issue Elder Scrolls was set at a very, very early point in my chain where I had absolutely no business being what amounts to an SMT protagonist.

So that's troubling.

>>50602129
...but I am conveying meaning, anon.

I exist outside of regular time and space because I studied and recreated the Seithr Fluid Body Theory in Blazblue on a more elaborate scale, became an angel empowered by the souls of Purgatory as well as a mass-produced line of Cambion souls and achieved enlightenment in Journey to the West.

Later I would also gain access to the D-Ripper of GUNNM fame and the God-Machine's spirit-technology, which by fusing with my own mantratech I'd use to apply causality distortion effects to my own forms of travel.

So now space travel is more about thinking about where I need to be.

>>50602293
Ugh, I wish I hadn't.

>>50602407
It's basically super-nationalism, except instead of a nation it's a crumbling galactic empire.

>>50602407
Memes are the DNA of the soul, Jack.

>>50602432
Takes more than a prayer to turn you into a saint. Only the most religious of the religously devoted get that far.

>Creed and Inquisition
Neither of them has strong influence over the marines. They operate fairly independently of the rest of the government. They obey the inquisition sometimes, when they have to or when it's a benefit to, or if their chapter just functions that way, but they often also ignore them and bend or break the rules. Look at all the shit the Space Wolves get up to as an extreme.

>>50596077
Is the stuff in the item section representative of what you could eventually make with "infusion"? Are the gems actually physically part of the items you make, or are they more like material components used up when "enchanting"?

>>50602407
Well, no, most people believe in him as a god. But the Space Marines are descended from him through the Primarchs. He's not a god, he's just their awesome grandpa.

>>50602456
The Wolves cannot be used as a example of anything.

They're marines that didn't split into chapters and they commune with demons.

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>>50602456
Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the Space Wolves are a bit of an exception for how rebellious they are? My understanding was most of the other chapters generally just ignore the government rather than flaunt it entirely.

>>50602518
>>50602532
>As an extreme

>>50602532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihskUz0obzY

If I used one of the Dark/Demon Souls soul smithing perks on a shinigami, would it create their Zanpakuto with its abilities intact?

Is there any way to "sever" a god's mantle and give it to someone else?

What would happen if you used Merrily, Merrily Merrily, Merrily... from Captain SNES on Nyarlathotep? How would he react to the knowledge that he is a mere fictional character meant for the entertainment of humans?

Could Haki let me punch Obito in his stupid face?

How many stupid questions can we ask in a single thread?

>>50602919
You sweet summer child, you know nothing of autism.

>>50602919
Who put you in charge of determining the intelligence of a question?

Can we evolve Generic Post-Apocalypse's Mutagenesis mutation which already is an evolution aura?

>>50596348
So how do I keep from being infected by Glitch City's nanobots in VA-11 Hall-A?

Also, if I am successful, will it result in the White Knights being sent after me, and will the government escalate things to the point where I'll either have to go into hiding, or overthrow them (which basically means, should I take "May you live in interesting times" beforehand)?

>>50602946
>Can we evolve evolution

>>50602822
>>50602872
>>50602901
>>50602908
>>50602946
Will you stop spamming the thread and actually wait a few fucking seconds so people can answer your questions?

Is Dota 2 claimed?

>>50602978
Hey I only asked one of those!

>>50602978
We're not just one person, senpai.

>>50602908
Probably not, his intangibility is more due to him phasing into a different dimension than a property of his body. Maybe if you have some way to get into his dimension and match your shifting to his?

>>50602978
I asked the Nyarlathotep question and none of the others.

>>50602960
That's a good question and without your own nano tech I don't have an answer

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>>50602518
Demons did nothing wrong.

>>50590333
(Generic Medical Drama) #160
-Background: Surgeon (900CP) -The Doctor is in!
-Interesting... (Free) -This will be neat!
-Medical Doctorate (Free) -Surgery! Transplant surgery, to be precise.
-Absurdly High Paying Specialty (700CP) -And on top of that, I'm also a Neurosurgeon.
-Skeleton Key (600CP) -Utility is always worth investing in.
-Bedside Manner (500CP) -Useful for getting people to listen.
-Doctor's Orders (400CP) -WHELP. Considering how much shit I know, I'm needing this!
-Steady Hands (Free) -Super control of my hands. Holy crap, YES.
-You Did Everything You Could (250CP) (Discount) -WELL THEN. This will help me learn from anything I ever do.
-Do No Harm (-50CP) (Discount) -Holy shit. I mean holy SHIT. This is something ELSE.
-The Good Stuff (-150CP) -HA. This is fucking awesome.
-Surgery Scrubs (Free) -Oh I'm gonna abuse the hell out of this.
-Count Backwards From Ten (-200CP) (Discount) -Oh my gods, this is just even BETTER.
-Clinic Hours (0CP)
Dice Rolls: Chicago Hope, 39 years old
-End Choice: Next Adventure

Doctor in the house! Someone get me out of this clinic. Lady, the problem with your weight isn't drinking water, THE PROBLEM IS YOU EATING DEEP FRIED STICKS OF BUTTER REGULARLY.

A fairly decent vacation bit aside from the clinic hours, it's just doing a job and learning the trade while improving what I can do on the side. Plus the increased ability in being able to do surgeries and impart medical wisdom is nothing to scoff at, either. I mean, you'd listen to a Neurosurgeon, right? Of course you would. Neurosurgeons are smart.

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>>50602822
Personally don't think so.

>>50602872
Don't know in all the worlds but in Forgotten Realms you might be able to.

>>50602901
I don't think he'd like the Life is But a Dream part very much.

>>50602908
I don't think so. Haki hits you even if you are fire not hits you even if you aren't there.

>>50602946
>Generic Post-Apocalypse
... didn't know this existed. Or I forgot about it.

>>50602987
Not to my knowledge.

>>50602960
>>50603029
Not that guy but how about Anima: Beyond Fantasy Ancient Blood comboed with the Nano-Machines from Iji?

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>>50602822
I'm not sure, but I think it might depend on your skill at soul smithing/transposition because certain weapons/items forged from other beings in the DS series like Kalameet don't exactly carry over their full, intact abilities.

Or as an even better example-the Soul of Cinder's soul creates the Firelink Sword, rather than giving you all of his abilities.

I think it's likely you'd create a weapon with a thematically similar ability, but not necessary a completely faithful recreation.

I don't know enough about what Zanpakutos are to say for sure, though.

>>50602872
Well, that depends on the kind of god. There is a spell in Fall From Heaven that works on the local gods (read: archangels appointed over various purviews, like LOTR's Vala) and seemingly required the sacrifice of half a civilisation to fuel it.

>>50602901
I think he'd just laugh it off, pointing at Azathoth.

>>50602908
Yes if you catch him off guard, although personally I'd aim for the balls.

>>50602942
The lack of agency that naturally arises from an anonymous imageboard?

>>50602960
I would suggest being an energy being such as a Rakasha from Lord of Light or possesing technopathic abilities such as Hardened Cosmosphere from Ar Tonelico. To a lesser extent being a video conduit would work too I guess. Given it's technologically similar I think you might able to innoculate yourself by using Karmatron Dynamics to tweak the Regenerator Nano from GUNNM as well, doubly so if you somehow integrate Blame!'s Safeguard technology for extra protection.

>>50602946
I'm not sure but I don't see why not, given the correct catalysts. EVO's namesake springs to mind.

>>50602969
That depends on how you define evolution, but The Science of Evolution and Spiral Energy suggests so.

>>50602987
Not that I know of.

>>50602919
I just hope mine gets answered.

>>50602532
Correct. Most chapters just ignore the authorities of the Imperium, or politely tell them to GTFO. Space Wolves are like their Primarch, loyal but rebellious. They do things their way, which ruffles a lot of feathers.

Seeing how ruffling of feathers is something Imperium tries to avoid. It gets them a lot of heat from the =][=. Which often ends up with another Inqusitior MIA.

They can get away with it because they were one of Big E's favorites. They were trusted to basically be his attack dogs, against traitors. Plus they have one the heaviest fortified places outside of the Imperial Palace.

>>50603116
>Personally don't think so.
Any reason why? Making a weapon from a soul in the store gives you the signature weapon of that person if they have one, and it normally has a special abilities related to their powers. And that's without the weapon literally being a manifestation of the wielder's soul like a Zanpakuto is.

>>50603158
At least Magnus has gotten some nice revenge and shit up their planet.

>>50602872
Isn't there an epic spell that does exactly that?

>>50603116
Any sufficiently advanced nanotech would do it. Basically the stuff is in the air so even if you don't breath its probably going to get into your skin unless you have something like an Eclipse Phase nano swarm protecting you. Without that I'd be focusing on counter nanobots inside the body that hunt down and destroy the cities.

What I mean to say is that a cure is outside the scope of the jump, but they are pretty easy to counter with signal jamming and Faraday cages.

Still, I might see about adding some kind of nano scrubber to the implants list if it's a problem.

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>>50603185
The Souls series' soul forging methiods never seem to reproduce what was used by the Bosses. Like the Blade of Choas draining your life when it didn't do that for the spider lady whose name is hard to recall. Also Garlock here >>50603120 has a few more examples that I didn't think of. This is just going from my experiences from the game so I may in fact be wrong, but I personally don't believe it would produce the Hollow with their spiritual energy personified as the Zampaktou does.

Varia [100sp] – There are plenty of dangerous and unwelcome environments in the galaxy, some of which can make short work of even basic Life Support Systems. Luckily, your armor has picked up the Varia Suit upgrade. The Varia System creates an isolated temperature environment for the user in addition to the base Life Support systems, and the wearer can travel in locations like volcanic caverns or the nighttime arctic in relative comfort without their armor, its equipment, or self suffer adversely for it. The internal temperature of the user’s body can even be adjusted at will. That said, this protection is not absolute – swimming in magma or taking a swan dive into a star is still a bad idea. In addition to this environment protection, heat or cold-based attacks are less effective against the armor.

This is one of the things Another gets as a freebie.

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>>50603265
Cool beans. Though at this point I think I'm destined to always get Electromaster in Railgun, having rolled it six different times, so I'm cool but some people might wanna Jump it first so it's up to them.

>>50603271
>Blade of Choas
She has a part of the Life Soul, it probably just drew from that instead of dealing damage to her like it does to a mortal.

>>50603116
>>50603120
>>50603271
So how much would it actually inherit, do you think?

I feel like it'd be a better idea to use the perk as a foundation and to help inform further, original research outside of the perk that would let you fully replicate a Zanpakuto. Remember that you're not limited to just your perks, even in a knowledge sense.

How good of an idea is it to eat the Lich from Adventure Time?

>>50603369
He's eternal nuclear death and decay in skeleton form. He's like a smaller, Neverborn version of Malfeas.

>>50603365
Speaking of, too many jumpers treat themselves like their perks are their Charms and they're a Primordial.

>>50603317
I could see shocks or EMP wreaking the nanobots too, its just that most people aren't suited to getting electrocuted.

>>50603369
Sounds like a bad time, the Lich does some scary ass stuff. He comes across as something like the walking talking concept of death and decay rather than a person.

Are Dragon Breaks undetectable? If I want to try something insane like eating a god, is my "safe" timeline going to get shat on?

>>50596035
Where can I get a cool, non-bloodthirsty dragon?

>>50603317
BTW Gaunlet, why do you avatarpost that guy but haven't made a Psyren jump yet?

>>50603446
The Khajiit on the moon like to record Dragon Breaks, so no, a kitty cat is always watching you.

>>50603454
Dragonlance.

If I choose to be a red dragon in Forgotten Realms, does that mean I'll turn evil?

>>50603469
Jumpers, have you ever made memes real?

>Moon Khajit is watching you

>>50603120
>>50603271
So then the solution is just to skip the middleman and devour the soul itself?

Also, how much of that is game mechanics and how much is "actually" occurring? Do keep in mind that the Souls series often implements dubiously canon things for the sake of gameplay, like Vancian casting in the first game. The description for the Firelink sword makes it sound like transposition wasn't actually used to get it, and that's just the coolest way to purchase it in the developers' minds. It implies that it wasn;t something that was /just/ created.

>The Lords of Cinder linked the First Flame, and this Greatsword was wielded by their deific manifestation. This coiled sword, found thrust in the bonfire, existed long before the throneless lords themselves.

>Skill: Ember - The fading flame momentarily illuminates and launches itself forward.

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Um, I don't mean to be pushy but does nobody have an opinion on harnessing the Deep?

>>50603349
Enough to sustain an attack a few second long, if the examples in-game are any sign.

Although I'm definitely with >>50603365 on this one. Vendrick, Aldia and Oceiros all did much more impressive things by sticking souls where they don't normally belong. Even Gwyn's system is ultimately a very, very advanced use of soul research wielded by a very, very powerful soul.

>>50603369
Well, he melted a prison specifically designed to hold cosmic criminals...by allowing himself to be captured by it. So, from the inside out. Also he's old enough to remember the eldritch abominations that existed before time and life as understood on Ooo.

He also gargles uranium to power up so he probably tastes awful.

All in all wicked tummy ache/10, would not consume.

>>50603396
In my defense, I tried to turn myself into something like a Primordial ages ago so-I'm kind of like a LARPer who took his hobby home with him.

"Jumper, it's time for lunch! Wait, why are you dressed like that?"

"Because I'm a world trapped in a god's body...trapped in a man's body!"

"Okay. Okay, I'll just. You stay there, and I'll get your meds"

"YOU ARE, ALL OF YOU, BENEATH ME. Also why're we having manhatten chowder? You KNOW new england a best! Why don't any of you understand me?!"