"Wrong fucking creature type" edition Old thread:

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first for good alters

>>50549415
>no thread title
>ugly proxy image
>le Saskia type whining even though it's clearly a regiment rather than loners, which is the difference
Delete

>>50549518
>Ablaze is nearly a $10 card
What has gone so wrong with this game?

>shitty OP, forced meme first image
Abandon thread

>>50549691
Alright, you make one then, faggot

>>50549789
Not gonna spam the forum with two threads, if you delete this I'm fine with making one.

Quick! Suggest something interesting to build an EDH deck around! It can be a card, an interaction, a theme, anything so long as it's not the same old tryhard bullshit!

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>>50550060

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Breya hard counters Yidris. What can I run to fuck with her? I already run leyline of the void, rakdos charm, vandal blast, and krosan grip. I got conquerors flail without realizing it doesn't stop abilities. What else can I run to make a combo player cry?

>>50550103

City of Solitude

>>50550103
Hurkyl's Recall
Creeping Corosion

>>50550060
Make a deck where every card has the same CMC.

>>50550103
Breaker of armies.

It doesn't particularly help with Breya but I'd a real fun time using it earlier.

>>50550088

I already have one!

>>50550312

HMMM. Pointless, but why not?

>>50550088
Gonti lord of Luxury

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>>50550388
?

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WHAT SHOULD I BUILD NEXT YOU GUYS

>>50550546
I second this. Volrath is mah niggah, the deck is basically just spare parts with some removal and recursion.

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>>50550594
I don't care if you're a judge, stop being a Azorius loving faggot

>>50550594
Angry Omnath or Rakdos LoR

should i take apart a monoblack deck that my group says is too good to build 2 weaker decks? or should i just tell them to git gud or something

>>50550594
Naya mld enchantress with various indestructible/regenerate things. Could even be voltron if you want to go that way, but I was thinking something something selfless spirit, another something assemble the legion, something something elesh norn.

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>>50550676
To be fair, I need to take Sharuum off that list. The Sphinx tribal was just a goofy idea I had when I wasn't sure what WUB deck to build, and I 'like' the dumbass Zur deck more.

I'm slowly working on building a deck for every 2 and 3 color combination, I guess I just had 'ideas' for UWx before other combinations?

>>50550829
Eh, I already have Bant Enchantress and a Zur Aura-heavy deck in the works, I'd like to avoid having three Enchantress decks. Especially because the Naya one would be even harder to make different than the Bant one with the WG core.

>>50550832
>Reaper King deck
How do you even do this? Just a shitload of Scarecrows/Changelings and bounce effects?

>>50550844
That's a fair point. I've always wanted to see The Mimeoplasm creatureless or ooze tribal, but that's pretty close to ghave. What about Zada/Krenko, or Feldon of the Third Path? Mazirek is another neat option, particularly if you made it bug theme.

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>opponent chaos wraps my blightsteel
>shuffle
>reveal
>blightsteel

>>50550923
Clones too I'd wager. Rite of replication on the king gives you 30 triggers.

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>>50550949
>you're out of cards
>opponent pays life to cast a spell
>topdecks a card that makes it go back to his hand
>he casts it again
>topdecks ANOTHER card that makes it go back to his hand
like, i don't even need to win the game anymore. He is morally defeated.

>>50550949
>Getting tons of damage in with Guttersnipe
>Opponents down to ~15 from Guttersnipe and other little chips of damage, protecting it with countermagic
>Opponent on Nekusar finally casts Evacuation then a Wheel effect to get rid of it
>Brainstorm it away to safety
>Cast it again next turn

>>50550933
I cooked up Ooze Tribal and it seemed... incredibly disappointing. I don't dislike the idea of a Mimeoplasm deck that relies entirely on the opponent for creatures, with the rest just being control and mill.

Mono-color is lower on my priority unless an idea jumps out and bites me (like the Ocean Tribal deck); and unfortunately I already have a BG deck.

That said, I do want to make a bug themed deck with Xira Arien, for literally one reason and one reason only:

so I can play Two Headed Giant with my friend's Sharuum deck and we can be The Hive Queen and the Hegemon

>>50550923
Close! It's Clone Tribal. There's a few Changelings (two, to be exact) and Scarecrows (also two!), but every other creature in the deck is a Clone. There's a reason the deck is named 「D O U B L E V I S I O N 」

The clones can let me copy whatever fun shit my opponents have, and Reaper King turns all of them into Vindicates if I need them to be. And a kicked Rite on Reaper King is fucking hilarious.

>>50551072
25, actually. Reaper King doesn't trigger himself, so each of the copies triggers off of their four buddies, while the OG gives you 5. So you have 5 sets of 4 triggers (20) and one set of 5 triggers for 25 total.

Also for extra pimp factor, the Reaper King I run is a Russian foil I got in Vegas during GP Vegas 2: Electric Boogaloo.

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I'm in the market for something that says "FUCK YOU GRUUL SMASH"

Considering Ruric Thar, but I'd love to be sold on something else.

>>50551360
Whatever it is, it requires Gruul Charm for "Not Gruul? Then die!"

Borborygmos 2.0 is probably a good candidate, what with chucking literal mountains at people's faces.

>>50550132
>>50550208

I will give these cards a whirl, thank you very much.

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>>50551360
>tfw youve played Gruul so long you can actually decipher this letter.
Seconding Borborygmos 2: Lands Bolting U

Pack all the Blue hate you can and tell your opponent to eat mountain

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>>50550949
>villainous wealth Lazav
>sol ring
>duskmantle guildmage
>mindcrank

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tymnasidar-kondo-hatebear-value/

Requesting advice for my Tymna + Sidar Kondo Hatebears deck. After playing at least 7 games with it (all 4 player, won 4 of them), I like the fact that I'm always drawing cards and turning creatures sideways. However, I feel like it's win-conditions need to be more than just "play a lot of hatebears, Overrun, yay".

Also, this deck apperantly sucks against Narset despite having plenty of ways to deal with her. Maybe just bad luck, or maybe I need to add more cards to help either pin her down or tutor for the cards that will.

>>50551553
>This is madness!

>>50550949
>Someone Insurrections 80+ power worth of creatures
>All of them are at me
>Darkness lol

>>50551553
>However, I feel like it's win-conditions need to be more than just "play a lot of hatebears, Overrun, yay".
So combos then?

Well, there's various human combos with Angel of Glory's Rise, for example
Fiend Hunter + AGR + Altar of Dementia = mill someone's library
Fiend Hunter + AGR + "free" sac outlets like Martyr's Cause + ETB humans = infinite ETB triggers
Saffi Eriksdottir + AGR + "free" sac outlets like Martyr's Cause + ETB humans = infinite ETB triggers

You're also missing some obvious stuff like Bitterblossom, Cathars' Crusade, Craterhoof Behemoth, etc.

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>>50551508
>It's another Gruul deck chock full of anti blue cards episode
When will this meme die?

why is courser of kruphix good

>>50551907
Card advantage is always good.

>>50551907
>>50551919
It was also that her fat bum was relevant in non-EDH environments.

>>50549415
Isn't she better as a Human/Soldier type. Why is everyone whinning?

>>50551904
The ability to back your important plays up with anti-counterspell is a "meme"?

>>50552030
>why does /edh/ whine so much
It's /edh/. We whine when something isn't our pet tribe. We whine when power creep doesn't keep going steadily upward. We whine when our friends bully us for spending too much money on the game.

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Best card or greatest card?

>>50551904
So when the U/x player goes for a big combo with counterspell backup it's superior tactics, but when the Gruul player runs REB/Pyroblast/Guttural Response to protect their big plays, it's a meme?

k

>>50549518
>"good alters"
>pretty much fodder for overcompensating masculinity

Not even good fanservice at that

>>50552030
She's 'better' because there's more Soldier support to boost her, yes.

The problem is she's in the colors for Warriors, and is very much a Berserker/Warrior type card, and then they make her a fucking Soldier. It's not thematically correct, and it's frustrating because she's in the perfect colors to be a Warrior Commander... whereas most Soldiers are White anyway and there's plenty of choices for them.

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>>50552154

>>50552171
She's in the soldier colors too and it's clearly a regiment of soldiers, albeit savage, as opposed to loners, which is the defining difference.

>>50552154
counter spells will always be useful. Colour specific hate can often be dead in your hand for most of the game

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>>50552209
>Warriors are loners
k

>>50552078

Haven't seen this puppy in a while but I'm glad it exists as a sort of "case-closed, tired of your bullshit" card

>>50552209
>she's in the soldier colors
44 red Soldiers.
26 Black.
17 green.
359 white.

Total of 87 non-white, and 446 overall

38 white Warriors.
82 black.
130 green.
197 red.

Total of 292 non-white, and 330 overall.

WBRG is more "Warrior colors" than "soldier" once you dig out the 350 fucking mono-white soldiers. Mono-white is the Soldier color.

>>50552166
That's the fucking joke, you very unperceptive person.

>>50552284
Hordechief is my favourite creature card, I love that crazy bastard

is dramatic reversal the best at what it does with isochron scepter?

How many times do I have to fucking post this.

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/152531482013/why-is-saskia-the-unyielding-have-the-creature?route=%2Fpost%2F%3Aid%2F%3Asummary

There's no clearly defined boundary between the tribes. They decide based on the character fluff. They know Saskia's fluff. We don't.

I'm sick of the fucking whining about this, it's ridiculous.

Is it possible to create a white and blue barbarian tribe? (Lore)

>>50549268
Cauldron of Souls + Oran-Rief is the best defense Elves have. Asceticism and Wrap in Vigor are duplications for something Ezuri already has not to mention unless you're a shitter you don't run a board wipe creatures can regenerate from. Fresh Meat and Caller of Claw are precisely the cards that show Green is hosed board wipes be because you don't want 4 or 5 elephants in deck based around pumping Elves.

>>50552457
You mean Gosta Dirk's bros?

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>>50552154
>thinking counterspells and color-specific hate cards are comparable.
ISHYGDDT

>>50552434
Probably. There's other things, but they require you to be using mana rocks because they don't generally untap EVERYTHING. Seriously, you could win with two Islands, Scepter-Reversal, and a Prodigal Sorcerer.

>>50552444
>Well this half-fish, half-person isn't a Merfolk because of story reasons
>We're not gonna ever show you the story though
>He's a Kithkin because we fuckin' said so lol

>>50552534
If the color-hate cards are there for the specific purpose of "protecting big plays from counterspells", 99% of which are blue, then they're at least somewhat comparable.

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>>50550060

wild wheel(of fortune)-man

>>50552591
Except that there's no definitional difference between soldiers and warriors, whereas merfolk are definable, dumbass. Soldiers can (occasionally) be savage just like warriors can (occasionally) fight with other warriors.

>>50549268
I can personally think of plenty of green draw because I've made umpteen monogreen decks and played umpteen monogreen player and I am also scrolling through a card search to be astronomically certain some amazing reliable card wasn't printed in the last couple sets. My point was we are talking about green draw from the perspective of your board is gone, your dorks are dead. Green's draw best works with fatties in the form of high cost enchantments based on p/t or counting creatures. Green best draw is no cheaper than 5 (barring Glimpse of Nature which is a combo card anyway). Both of these types of cards and the ones you listed are TERRIBLE against a board wipe save fecundity. However, fecundity is also benefiting the rest of the board that has been wipe, a deck mind you with problems with card advantage already, and god help you against sac-based deck. Fecundity is also one card in a deck without the ability to tutor for it or put in a functional replacement.

So the deck you're against wipes you and then the rest of the table doesn't harass you for the next 3 to 4 turns it takes to return those cards from the graveyard/refill your hand and play them and they don't wipe your board again in a format known for being a control-favored format. I guess in this hypothetical goldfish reality you live in where they play one wrath and watch you yeah Elves are probably good.

Elves is the quintessential kingmaker deck. You rarely win with it rather you can explode the first couple turns when you're at the advantage and choose who loses or set someone up to lose.

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>>50551508

I hear ya

>>50552602
If you can't play around or through counterspells, without the use of Guttural Response and kin, then you need to get good.

>>50552715
"She's not a merfolk because story"

>>50552534
They're played largely as backup against counterspells.

>>50552728
>If you can't play a combo without using counterspell backup you need to get good

Yet I'm sure if someone said "Man, I feel frustrated by counterspells because it seems like whenever I go for my big play they can counter it" you'd say "LOL LERN 2 DEAL WITH THEM SCRUB"

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>>50552681
Maybe make your opponents draw lots of cards all at once, then Face Laser them to death.

>>50552730
She's a merfolk because she's a fish person.

She's a soldier or warrior because [a bunch of fluff about their philosophy and fighting style and culture].

I don't know how much simpler I can make this for you. I know you're butthurt about this but it doesn't justify how much of a faggot you're being.

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>>50551360
>>50551508
Oh cool, also looking for Gruul stuff here. I dig the centaur, but the extra land elf seems good for landfall green/red stuff

>>50552602
>>50552736
Depends on your meta. If you play against the same decks every match and you know they'll play counters or blue then sure. If you bounce from meta to meta, have unreliable attendence at your playgroup, or play MTGO then their are a lot of times they are dead cards.

>>50552728
This meme needs to die. The notion you can play around every or most board wipes at most points in the game in a control-heavy format is a fluff statement people throw around that doesn't mean anything. This is as cancerous as "oh you didn't destroy this creature in on turn and lost, sounds like you should run more removal" argument.

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>>50552284
I think the Akroans really spell out the flavour difference between soldiers and warriors: which is whether they use coordinated tactics or not. The Linebreaker is a warrior while the Akroan Phalanx, Sergeant etc. are soldiers.

>>50552807
Stonebrow is a worse Xenagos.

>>50552747
It's called timing you fucking retard. Learn to bait out countermagic; don't just drop an overwhelming stampede when your opponent is doing nothing but playing draw-go If you play against NOTHING but blue control decks, then sure I see no reason why running REB and Pyroblast would be bad. If not, then enjoy your dead draws, that could've been literally anything else.

>>50552831
Well yes, the people running them are generally in counterspell heavy metas.

>>50552854
Vorthos tho

Anyone a regular player on mtgo. Didn't know if there was any demand for organizing a /tg/ online playgroup.

>>50552250
>anti-blue cards are just color hate in EDH

If I'm playing against a deck where Pyroblast is a dead card it already payed for itself.

>want to build Alesha
>all of my good BW-colored stuff is tied up in Ghave
FUCK

I just want them hatebears, I've never really built a creature-centric EDH deck before

I'm building my first EDH deck and need help. What cards should I cut? I'm coming from mostly legacy and modern so my card evaluation for EDH is not the best. How many mana rocks should I be running? Are there cards that I am missing?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-12-16-padeem-edh/
Thanks for the help. I appreciate all input.

>>50552788
"She's not a merfolk because story"

>>50552900
It's called timing you fucking retard. Learn to bait out counter-countermagic; don't just drop a Mana Drain when your opponent is doing nothing but playing fatties If you play against NOTHING but red-green aggro decks, then sure I see no reason why running UEB and Hydroblast would be bad. If not, then enjoy your dead draws, that could've been literally anything else

>>50553063
>I was trolling this entire time, I swear

>>50552591
Regardless of whether they release one of their shitty blog lore post about something, WotC has been doing a lot of top down development with their legends. It's very common for the design to integrate a story into card design.

>>50553115
>A lot of top-down development with their legends
Tell that to literally every single one of the Partner commanders. Hell, the 4 color ones feel bottom-up too. They did not write a story for Saskia and then build a card around that, they asked "What is the least blue thing of all, since this is the nonblue one", answered with "Smashing", and then made a WBRG Commander that smashes things. Then they wrote a story for her, but none of us get to see it, but it totally justifies why the WBRG leader of a savage barbarian horde is a Soldier. Trust us.

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>>50553081
Wow, you sure showed me, dude. Enjoy playing your shitty do-nothing cards. Make mama proud of her little angel.

>>50553143
I didn't say they started with a story I said it very likely was integrated at early stages in development.

Partners were likely bottom up. Probably why their reception has been luke-warm. Some 4-color were bottom-up, some were top down. Atraxa and the Sodomite Soldiers were likely top-down.

>>50553179
>some people find use out of niche cards because of meta specifics
>"what a shitter, git gud faggot."

Do you realize how fuckinf obnoxious you sound? You are that guy at an LGS.

>>50553143
>totally justifies why the WBRG leader of a savage barbarian horde is a Soldier. Trust us.
see >>50552850
In my opinion it depends on how coordinated your tactics are. The Kjeldorans are pretty savage but they work in phalanxes and shit so they're soldiers.

>>50553188
Partners were 10000% bottom-up.

Atraxa was probably top-down once they decided on Praetor Angel, and Gay Hugs were probably top-down, but Saskia was 100% bottom-up, and so was "artifacts lel" and "chaos lel"

>>50553243
And yet the Mardu were a horde of coordinated warriors, not coordinated soldiers. Lovisa Coldeyes, the LORD of a horde of barbarians, was not a fucking Soldier.

>>50553260
To my knowledge the Mardu or Lovisa's hordes didn't use coordinated tactics, like phalanxes and whatnot. Fighting in groups doesn't necessarily mean much advanced coordination. It's just more people wanting to beat them until they die.

You warriorfags really are being stubborn faggots about this.

>>50552476
Ezuri isn't always there, and usually ends up eating removal first. Regardless, redundancy isn't bad in this case.

Ezuri is mass tokens for me, so cards like those don't do much of anything but usually guarantee me the win next turn.

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>>50553213
I'd rather obnoxiously tell someone not to run bad cards just because the big mean blue player touched them wrong, than to pat them on the back and tell them what special snowflake they are for running shitty cards. But sure friend, if you want to insist on shitting up your decks, then I see no problem in letting you do so.

>>50552078
I absolutely hate sudden spoiling. When I was new I tried to play it in response to stuff all the time where it just wasn't the right thing to use. Even though I understand it now I still fucking hate it.

>>50549518
Still waiting for the uncensored version.

I just got my copy of planechase anthology, which leads me to having 2 questions /edhg/

1 - I'm thinking of cutting the planar deck down to 40 cards for sleeving purposes, since that's like the most oversized sleeves you can get in a single pack. Which planes are the most fun to play with? Which planes are boring/unfun/otherwise easy cuts?

2 - of the 4 legends included with the set, which is the most fun as a commander? Thromok seems bad, Krond seems boring, Wanderer seems like it would either draw hate or be better off as a Yidris deck, and I have no idea what to think about Vela.

>>50553243
>The Kjeldorans are pretty savage but they work in phalanxes and shit so they're soldiers.
This. I've been saying Saskia and co. scream Kjeldor to me.

>>50552720
Not sure why you replied to me, I didn't really mention anything about green card draw. I have Minds Eye, Sylvan Library, and Harmonize as forms of non-creature based draw.

As for the former, idk. I've never had a situation where I couldn't recover easily. I play very cautiously and I don't generally "explode" my hand early with elves. I play in a mid level meta. There are try hards but we all have extremely competitive, high powered decks too.

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Would you allow this card to be played in an otherwise legal deck?

>>50552720

You're too certain with your generalizations to see the finer details

Also you're exaggerating

It doesn't take 3 to 4 turns to rebuild after a seasons past or a praetor's council, it takes 1 or 2

>>50552995
Cut Darksteel Colossus, Platinum Empyrean (unless there's a combo I'm not noticing), Platinum Angel (same), Colossus of Akros, Filigree Familiar, Elixir of Immortality, Everflowing Chalice, Orbs of Warding, Thoughtcast.

Add Teferi, Chain Veil, Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, and Palinchron.

>>50553543

No

>>50553543
Would you let someone play Goblin Tutor?

>>50553487
1) It depends on what you want. A lot of people trim the bog-shit-down planes like "Skip untap" and The Hippodrome to make things faster. Some people trim down the hyper-aggro planes like Bloodhill Bastion because they can just end games all at once. I highly recommend you trim the reverse-the-turn-order Phenomenon. Beyond that, just sleeve up the 40 you think look fun and play a few games with them. Trim the ones you find dissatisfiying, add in the ones you want to try, repeat until final product.

2) Maelstrom Wanderer is Maelstrom Wanderer.

Should I buy a Trinisphere

>>50553543
Yeah, sure.

>>50553676

It's really good against yidris and maelstrom wanderer, not fantastic in edh generally, but it's a powerful and iconic card and it's not that expensive so I say go for it

>>50553319
No redundancy isn't bad just I've seen a few metas that see an Ezuri deck and it's a note to tutor immediately for damnation or BSZ or terminus or something like that. If you made Elves work in your meta then power to you. I just don't personally feel they work in the average meta.

>>50553324
>these cards are bad because they don't work in my meta

K

>>50553714
Cool I will do it

My friend recently built a Rashmi deck that's no slouch, so it'll be helpful against that, plus I'm working on a terrible mix of stax and combo so we'll see how that one goes

>>50552078
Love it in my Toshiro deck.

>>50550312
Holy shit I want to do this now.

>>50552720
I've skimmed through some of this argument and I'm hopping in. I run a Freyalise elfball deck and while board wipes can hurt, eating one is not the end of the world. I can draw cards with my value engines after the fact/in response or bring a big pile of the good stuff back to hand with Seasons Past, Praetors Counsel, or Gravesifter. Ezuri stops a lot of wipes cold and I'm experimenting with Soul of New Phyrexia. Lifeblood Hydra does not hose board wipes directly, but it refills my hand nicely when it's one of the victims.

>Elves is the quintessential kingmaker deck. You rarely win with it rather you can explode the first couple turns when you're at the advantage and choose who loses or set someone up to lose.
This is not true at all. If that's been your experience then there's a problem with the specific lists or players you're basing that on.

>>50553667
>Maelstrom Wanderer is Maelstrom Wanderer.
what did he mean by this?

>>50552078
This card is still the masterpiece behind my favorite play of all time.
>I'm playing Monoblack Control with Tainted Aether on the field.
>Green Stompy guy has Concordant Crossroad and a shitload of mana.
>He cast Entwined Tooth and Nail
>He grabs (What else) Avenger of Zendikar and Craterhoof Behemoth
>Wait for Saproling trigger to resolve.
>Tainted Aether Trigger, the guy sac all his lands
>Craterhoof Trigger on the stack
>cast Sudden Spoiling in response to the trigger
>And then cycle Decree of Pain

I'm still proud very proud of myself and the salt I caused.

>>50549415
>no EDH in the title

holy shit how do people always fuck that up?

>>50553583
>Accuses me of exaggerating
>proceeds to exaggerate by claiming he can play a fucking praetor's council and replay his hand in the same turn

Is it just Elf players that exaggerate this shit. When the deck was at its fullest potential with Rofellos people claimed that they got turn 3 or 4 kills regularly. Now someone insists on saying something ridiculous like this. I'm doing the opposite of generalizing. I'm painting a very common EDH scenario for you to theorygather your way out with a hypothetical decklist. Green's draw relies on a board state to maximize and this two thread conversation has been about Elves inability to reliably recover with an empty board and small hand. You're the one generalizing in this case.

how do you guys decide on a deck to build? i have 2 precons and want to build one myself but every time i decide on a commander and start brewing i see another commander and want to build that instead. its starting to become a real problem, i have like 12 half baked decks on tapped out

>>50552969
Anyone interested?

>>50553836
It's generally considered an extremely good Commander because you just ramp into big dumb shit.

>>50553487
Thromok is better than it looks, but Wanderer is by far the most popular.

>>50553837
Sick. I love seeing good sequencing get rewarded like that.

>>50553901
Skip tappedout and physically assemble a rough draft in paper.

>>50553940
>Thromok is better than it looks
Eeeeeh. He grows fast (1/1, 4/4, 9/9, 16/16, etc), but he has zero evasion or protection. It's a lot easier to grow an already evasive/hard to kill Commander than it is to protect a big effectively-vanilla beatstick.

>>50553828
What value engines?

>>50553324
>Pyroblast
>REB
>bad
How does it feel to be fagaroni? Just because you play in casual Timmy meta, where such cards aren't effective, doesn't mean that they're bad cards.
You do realize, that certain good cards become bad in certain groups, it's all about the metagame and the decks people play.
In fast meta REB and Pyro are pretty much auto includes, as is Mental Misstep and MAYBE Spell Snare or Nix, but latter two are usually too situational to be playable extensively.

>>50553865

I didn't mean to say I can play praetor's and then my hand in the same turn, I meant that I could play praetor's the turn after the wipe, then the turn after that I'll often play the whole hand again, if heritage druid was involved, or play most of the hand, and finish the turn after

1-2 turns after recurring the cards you'll notice I said

>elves inability to reliably recover with an empty board and a small hand

That's you changing the goal posts fucking fag, you were a fag last thread and you haven't stopped

My elf deck doesn't usually ever end up with an empty board and a small hand, because that means you had a shtty draw or you played it poorly

There's a reason elf decks are really popular in French edh, and I agree they work less well in multiplayer, but not so much less well that they aren't good decks or that they somehow fold to every board wipe that happens

Idk why you're pretending green's recursion isn't amazing, either ignorance or dishonesty, anyway go fuck yourself I'm not replying to your fucking faggy bullshit anymore

>>50553837
Does that work? Wouldn't Sudden Spoiling not matter if the trigger's already on the stack?

>>50553940
>Thromok is better than it looks
He's as good as he looks -- a vanilla fatty which doesn't really go very far in EDH without a lot of Fling effects, which is not very good value.

damn that new tezzeret would be pretty good in a breya deck

>>50554005
>I always have full hand or a board state

Yep. I'm the one generalizing. I just asked you to list cards that help you recover from a board wipe quickly. You give me a 6 and 8 drop card in a deck notably based around creature ramp rather than land ramp. I ask for clarification in regualar EDH scenarios and you call me a fag.

>>50554008

The reason it works is because of that last thing he did, which was cycle decree of pain, to give all the 0/2's (which were about to get +X/+X, but not yet) -2/-2 so they died

>>50553984
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/furious-elves-2/

>>50554008
>Spoiling resolves, creatures become 0/2
>Cycle, -2/-2
>Craterhoof trigger resolves with no creatures in play

>>50554028
>>50553968
You can fling him, but it's more about setting up a haste + trample swing to kill one opponent, then repeating if he lives or making a few tokens to gobble up and recast. If Uril is a glass cannon, Thromok is a grenade launcher.

>>50554005
Also just some things I'd like to point out in your post.

>then the turn aftr that I'll often the whole hand again
>my elf deck doesn't usually end up with an empty band and a small hand

Which is it? Do you play an elf deck by swinging with dorks at a goldfish or do you dump your hand and fold to a competent control player?

>1-2 turns after recurring the cards
>I originally said 3-4 turns to fully recover so 1 turn to redraw graveyard 2 turns to play out shit

But it's exaggerating when I say it.

>>50554106
You might be the only Elf player I've seen run a board wipe. If the deck works in your meta then far be it for me to say it doesn't work. A deck like that wouldn't work in my meta though.

>>50554106
Well yes, if your opponents let you set up a haste-tample source, let you set up the devour tokens and don't Terror him when he swings, I suppose he can do damage.

i enjoy playing the big two hander wielding orc that just smashes face all day. what gruul commander is the best for this?

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>>50554478
Ruric Thar or Borborygmos in Gruul.

They're not the orc with the sword, though. That'd be Zurgo.

Storm Cauldron in Locus of Rage
Y/N

Cons feel like they outweigh the pros.

>>50554273
The deck certainly struggles against linear combo, and if that's the norm in your area you would want Ezuri in the commander slot and a tighter focus on flooding the board. I mostly play against fair decks though, so I have the luxury of durdling a bit in the mid game. All is Dust is my out for cards that are otherwise unbeatable, like Avacyn or Iona on green; I can't get anyone to trade me an Ugin.

>>50554370
If your opponents think Terror is an acceptable card to run then Thromok more than strong enough for the meta.

>>50554478
Ruric Thar

>>50554612
>the kids don't know what Terror means these days
It's just the generic term for instant-speed creature removal.

>>50554648
The exact same response applies to Doom Blade et al.

>>50554777
I was talking any creature removal, including the good ones that people run in good metas.

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>strictly better Voidslime
Nice

Shame that the art is so much worse

How do I beat Atraxa or just counters and that sort of bullshit in general with Red/green or ydiris?
The Atraxa player is getting all high and mighty and it's pissing everyone off

>>50554823
I like the art. And holy fuck, that card.

>>50552352
>people keep making fun of my shitty weaboo fanservice alter that I spent all of my allowance on
>I know! I'll just claim it is just a joke and that people don't get it!

>>50554860
>How do I beat Atraxa
kill her

>>50550060
Is there enough for a hat tribal deck?

>>50552444
here's a fun thought for every one:

the story of the game is imaginary and its unpublished material could be changed at any moment with no perceivable effect. also, the story is poorly written garbage from hack fantasy writers.

so using "muh story" as a consideration for the design of any card is fucking retarded.

>>50554860
make a breya deck and -4/-4 her every time the player casts her. he will still get to proliferate once but if he cant keep her on the board he cant really do a whole lot

>>50554918
In red/green?
Yidris sure, but last I checked does red/green even have removal?

>>50554945

Breya can kill atraxa before proliferate triggers if you leave up mana

>>50554945
That sounds baller as fuck
I was honestly just gonna run Breya as Sharuum combo with red but that's def an good idea right there

>>50554804
>good ones that people run in good metas.
So removal that has nothing in common with the card you named. Got it.

>>50554860
Without more specifics about the deck Ulvenwald Tracker is the best answer I can give.

>>50554944
The soldier-warrior divide isn't mechanical, it's flavourful.

Going purely by mechanics, vigilance is more soldier than warrior, and only that one hydra, to my knowledge, is analagous to her second ability.

>>50554959
>last I checked does red/green even have removal?
m8....

>>50554999
Deck is precon for now but asshole is going all in
Basically everything but red 1/1 counter good stuff

>>50554999
>So removal that has nothing in common with the card you named. Got it.
I'm literally telling you "Terror" stands (stood?) for any and all creature removal. Perhaps the phrases has fallen out of favour and you're new enough to have missed it.

>>50554994
protip, breya straight up kills a shit ton of commanders out there. my breya deck is basically built to train people stop playing commanders i dislike by continously killing their commander. the only real problem is you have to constantly focus on one person

>>50554999
"Dies to Terror" is an old phrase.

>>50555056
How do you keep up with all the tokens?

>>50555075

Not the same guy but in my deck I do the same with Breya, killing commanders a lot, and often I'm sac'ing Breya, not her two thopters, because I'm about to recur her with goblin welder or something

Or I'll sac Breya and myr retriever to kill a commander, then recast Breya from hand same turn

>>50555075
blink effects, token generation or just sac normal artifacts. you basically buy yourself a turn to build everytime you kill a commander unless they hit a ramp card. breya being able to sac herself helps. there is also a red enchantment whos name i cant remember that deal damage when you sac things, put that in the deck too

>>50555047
>new
You keep using that word, but I was playing when Terror was standard legal.

>>50555071
Dies to removal has been a troll argument since Alpha, but no one says "dies to terror" in normal parlance.

>>50550060
play rebel tribal

>>50555184
You got caught taking Terror to literally mean Terror when it doesn't, and now you're attempting to save face on an anonymous board.

Why the fuck is he so stupid??
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/topical-blend-1-%E2%80%93-err-human-2005-03-07-1

>>50555307
You got called on your bad card and now you're desperately backpedaling on an anonymous board.

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>>50555307
>>50555593
You're both morons.

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>>50555660
Right back at you.

I hate you all so fucking much

Why do people even care if Saskia is a warrior or not. There's like two cards I can think of that would maybe be playable if she were (bramblewood paragon and crashing foremost) and it's not like she supports tribal somehow.

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Post true patrician tech

>>50555830
>Destroy target green spell as it's being cast
metal

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>>50555830

>>50555889
the white had draw power all along

>>50553857
And as expected it was an omen for a shitty thread. Well, that and the retarded argument-starter subject.

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Is mark rose water sutistic?

>>50555915
Definitely sutistic

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/edh/, I'm angry! Angry about Fungus!

More specifically that my favorite tribal is unplayable in my new favorite format, since there's just not enough individual cards for it to be viable.

Anyway, I'm looking for a new Token atribal deck I could use. I like decks that generate huge numbers of creatures and tokens, then use cards like Overrun or Craterhoof Behemoth to really wreck the field, and also use token saccs as a resource, using them to gain mana or to fuel abilities such as counters or destruction.

I was thinking of a Karametra Mana-Elves deck, but I like GB as a color better(also mad that Pharika is terrible as a commander. I like gods) maybe something like a GB Zombie Tribal? I'm open to any and all suggestions.

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/scarred-puma/
Rate?

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I came when I saw this, any opinions?

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ITS HAPPENING

>>50556358
Bet she's Rakdos

>>50553260
>Mardu
>Coordinated
They were my favorite clan but no, they were not coordinated.
There was a story showing the difference between how the Mardu prepare for battle and how the abzan, who are mostly soldiers, prepare for battle.

The abzan planned out tactics, organized where they'd be, and prepare a defense and shieldwalls.

The mardu almost literally decided they were done eating for now, headbutted each other, literally yelled "WE RIDE" and charged off to attack with zero organization and planning

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>>50556358

Heres the rest, sorry for screencap.

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Post fun mono commanders now

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>>50556421
>mfw she comes out Rakdos
RB are my colors of choice, but they aren't really ever anything other than "Smash fast" when put together. A Rakdos or my dream of Mardu artificer would be the greatest thing.

>>50556491
I play nothing but mono commanders and Daretti is the one I have the most fun with. No game ever plays out the same way.

>>50556512
>>50556358
>>50556421
>The Scrappers gather for one reason only: to pit their fighting automatons against each other. Though they're a little rough around the edges, the Scrappers are surprisingly meticulous in their designs, constantly looking to refine and modify their automatons to maximize any advantage.
If I wanted to make a R/B artificer, I'd make them an artifact dogpitfighter.

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>>50556491

>>50556491
Shirei
Kaho
8.5 Tails
Both Odrics
Yisan

>>50556564
Yeah, doesn't sound blue at all.

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/imperium-of-man-jokes/

This is a deck I kinda threw together just because I like nuSiggy. Think it's worth getting the parts together at least to playable?

>>50556634
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, so I'm going to admit the only things that sound blue to me are "artifacts" and the word "meticulous"
"Maximizing advantages" sounds black as fuck to me in a "play possibly dirty to win" sort of way, while blue likes to improve for improvement's sake

>>50556634
But her clothes are literally red and blue

She doesn't look BR

>>50556699
Yeah, her clothes point to blue, her blurb of text certainly doesn't.

>>50556735
leave it to WU to describe RU in a negative light.

Bought a handful of cards for my new Newzuri deck.
A fairly casual meta with Flavor of the Month Breya and Atraxa all the time, Aurelia Voltron, Jhoira, Vish Kol and some other two color commanders.
Usually playing 3-4 players.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/newzuri-counterplay/

Current thoughts for cuts:

>Beastmaster Ascension out - Fable of Wolf and Owl in
>Cultivator of Blades out - Cultivator of Blades in
>Fuel for the Cause out - Arachnogenesis in
>Wistful Selkie out - Champion of Lambholt in

Other new cards:
>Kiora, the Crashing Wave
>Mycoloth
>Viral Drake
>Avenger of Zendikar

I am afraid to cut my draw dorks and other good early game things.

>>50556781
>Cultivator of Blades out - Cultivator of Blades in
I know what that's like, buddy.

>>50556781
>Cultivator of Blades out - Kalonian Hydra in

Woops

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/set-your-shit-on-fire/

I want to do lots of damage to everyone, but it's not working out. I know burn is tough in EDH but I just want to do damage.

>>50556769
>>50556735
>>50556699
>>50556677
>>50556634
>>50556564
>>50556358

Watch this bitch be izzet legendary, but not an artificer. In kaladesh. She will just get +x/0 where x is the number of artifacts your opponents control or something

>>50556904
I'm gonna laugh.

I want to run Athreos as God of Taxes. I need a good list of cards that make people pay life for practically everything they do.

>>50556923
Its going to be even more disappointing.
What's the most disappointing it could be?

>>50556938
painful quandary

>>50556938
Blood Artist
Falkenrath Noble
Butcher of Malakir

>>50556860
Are you playing single player?

Your deck is obviously super budget. What are you working with?

Check out my budget group slug deck, it may give you some ideas, although its WR.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-secret-slugger/

Heartless Hidetsugu seems like an obvious "burn" thing and you could get a Thousand year elixer to tap things right away and untap them.

>>50556951
She's lore only the red blue card is a Chandra sorcery.

What's a fun, inexpensive commander? I'm running out of deck ideas.

>>50556951
>R/U legend
>She IS the artificer legend for RU
>Does nothing but get +1/+0 for every artifact you cast on your turn
>And everyone draws a card when she deals damage. Any kind of damage.
>Wizards takes years to figure out what people didn't like about the RU artificer they've been clamoring for.

>>50556979
I play a lot of 1v1 against my friend a lot, but it's to test decks speed for our multiplayer games so that's always the goal. It's all kitchen table shit, but I'm sure that's obvious.

I buy some fun cards but I rarely buy anything more than $5-7. That's sort of my cut-off. Until I get the deck really moving like my Gruul deck.

Thanks for the tips man.

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>>50557018
>Make an Izzet Artificer commander
>It's just an Artificer, does nothing with artifacts
>"Guys, you SAID you wanted an Izzet artificer! You didn't tell us you wanted to build around artifacts!"

>>50556992
Borborygmos Enraged

>Praetor's Counsel
>49 Mountains
>49 Forests

>>50557070
>Surviving 8 turns with only lands a full hand

Not at my table, retardo.

>>50556992
>>50557070
Challenge for you /edh/ show me sub $15 commander decks.

>>50556284

It pretty much confirms a bolas in the new set

>>50557200
...as if it wasn't confirmed already?

>>50557200
wouldn't it be funny if there wasn't???

>>50556975
>>50556977
Are there anymore? I don't even want my opponents to be able to scratch their asses without paying life for it.

>>50557237
Norns Annex

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>>50553988

>playing mono red
>player hardcasts Omniscience
>Casts Enter the Infinite
>no one has a Counter spell
>except me
>the mono red
>Pyroblast
>puts EtI into GY
>hold on, freindo
>targeting Omniscience
>Destroyed
>ETI resolves but he's tapped
>passes to my turn
>-2 Chandra Ablaze
>mfw

>>50557237
Kambal, from Kaladesh. Then they can't play spells without losing life.

is Ember Swallower lit in a landfall deck?

I want to play a Let's Have Some Fun style deck by breaking the game with dumb red shit and blowing up lands

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>>50556143
Is this seriously even a question?

>>50556284
Meh. ETB dorks and tokens are prevalent enough you'll almost never hit anything worthwhile.

>>50556491
Freyalise.

>>50556143
Have you tried thelon of havenwood?

>>50557173
1x Sidsi, Undead Vizier
1x Ad Nauseum
1x Zuran Orb
1x Sickening Dreams
96x Swamp

>>50556652
Needs more draw/CA engines to really go anywhere, and more finishers. I'm not seeing enough ETB value to justify the flicker package. Authority of the Consuls is just bad. Tireless Tracker is a conspicuous absence. Sun's Champion, Mentor of Heros, and Caller of Beasts would help this deck a lot.

>>50556781
Rather than add more ramp spells I would prune your top end. Cut Liege, Mirror Match, Garruk, Urban Evolution, and Fable. Make your entire ramp package creature based with ETB dudes like Wood Elves and Flip Nissa and/or mana dorks. Spike Weaver fit really nicely with your game plan, Lorescale and Experiment One are kind just do nothings.

>>50557173
1x Ashling the Pilgrim
99x Mountain

>>50557848
>draw/CA
I don't know much about card draw in EDH, Eternal Formats are new to me.
>more finishers
Same idea.
>flicker package
It's to dodge Wraths.
>Authority of the Consuls
Yeah, probably.
>Tireless Tracker
I honestly thought it was in there.
>Planeswalkers
If I have to.

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your friends let you play unsets in commander, right?
what's the highest number on a creature card? Highest I've found is 400000

>>50549691

>even though it's clearly a regiment rather than loners, which is the difference

Literally talking out of your ass, the Abzan/Dromoka shitters were in regimented bands too, didn't stop them from being Warriors

>>50557200
not until amonkhet

>>50554478
Zurgo Zurgo Zurgo!
Give him worldslayer and drink the tears.

>>50554928
Innistrad hummans have a lot of hats. so find a good commander in selesnya and you're golden ponyboy

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>>50554959
>does red/green even have removal?

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>>50557936
>not picking the 24,000,000 damage card

>>50557901
>I don't know much about card draw in EDH
Skullclamp is good in general, but all your anthems interfere with it. Shamanic Revelation and Verdant Confluence would be good for you. You've got Mentor, which is good, Bygone Bishop would be as well (he used to be a human). Thraben Doomsayer + Evolutionary Leap is a nice engine. On closer inspection Tracker is in there, I was just scrolled down to where Thraben Inspector looked like the last creature.

>It's to dodge Wraths.
Ghostway exiles your tokens and adding more token production is probably the best thing you can do for the deck, so I would replace it with Rootborn Defenses or something similar. Selfless Spirit or Dauntless Escort can be reused with the help of Sun Titan if you're willing to run a few more off tribe guys. Cauldron of Souls is another possibility.

>>50557936
Mox Lotus has infinity.

>>50557588

>let's have some fun

What's the reference here? None of that sounds fun

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>>50551548

>>50557053

The ulrich whining is stale.

Geist of saint traft is the legendary spirit creature, but nobody bitched when he was just a solid creature and not a spirit lord. Ulrich was filling out an uncompleted cycle. It's sort of shitty that development created a standard environment where Ulrich was pretty much useless, but that's not a mark against design.

The current bar set for new legendary creatures is also pretty shitty. Commanders like Prossh and Narset have set a bar where you basically can't print new exciting cards unless the card text is a paint-by-numbers instruction of what cards to play.

A big part of the problem is that the average player demands new cards that make them feel smart for reaching the most brain-dead obvious conclusions. "Woah, what if I put time stretch in Narset??!??!"
If Narset's ability was more subtle, or if framing it in a way that resulted in interesting gameplay took more work, you would have fewer players getting a trivial eureka moment, along with a camp of players complaining that the card isn't creative enough.

I hope wizads realizes that trying to make as many new legendary creatures as possible into wankfest decks isn't good for the health of the game. There is a very broad line between playing the oldschool vanilla legendary craw wurms and the more contemporary degenerate, but it's worrying how many players don't see that zone, or don't even want wizards to explore it.

>>50553543

Yes.

>>50553543
Maybe

>>50554541

If you couple it with some other cards that allow you to play a couple lands each turn like minna and den, I'd include it. Steady supply of creatures for you + hindering your opponents' mana bases

>>50554541
Add Borborygmos Enraged to the deck and suddenly the cons are all pros

Reminder that the EDH precons are some of the most egregious powercreep in this game. That 1/3 of the banned 1v1 commanders are from precons says enough. Hell, those commanders are from the same fucking year's precons. Not even a day 0 errata was enough to bring Marath down to sane levels.

>>50551907
>Card advantage in mono green
Not as strong as Oracle of Mul Daya for obvious reasons, but still strong goodstuff.

>>50559295
Notice how they aren't banned in multiplayer?

Which is what they were designed for?

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Why is she so perfect?

>>50552728
>"lmao just play around the counterspell"
>play against the resident blue autist
>see that he leaves the same 2 mana open every time he passes his turn
>know that he's going to counterspell your shit because he's jealous of your superior gruul deck
>pass turn or play low cost dorks and shit
>other 2 players are casting tons of shit
>blue player passes with the same 2 mana open again
>pass again
>he passes
>finally get tired and decide to just burn through the counterspell
>cast a 5 mana creature
>his eyes light up like he's suddenly an anime character and he turns his mana sideways and says "no!!! i counterspell that!!" and then smugly leans back like he just did something skillful

fuck you wotc

>>50559545
Gilded metal pussy

>>50557262
oh my god anon lmao

my opinion is that guttural response and other counter-counter-spells are a bit shitty in almost every meta, but pyroblast and red elemental blast are very much good spells if at least 70% of your meta is blue decks. killing *any* blue permanent is pretty good

>>50551402
the best gruul moment i had was when i was just starting out on edh and i said "i can't be bothered to read what your commander does so i'm just going to kill it with gruul ragebeast"

if oloro had red in his color identity, would he be a popular mono-red commander (even though you couldn't cast him)?

>>50559871
He would be a popular 4 color creature

>some brazilian guy hosts a "casual" game on xmage
>join because need to test ayli deck
>he ramps up to 9 mana and casts tooth and nail for kiki-jiki and zealous conscripts
>actually starts playing out the combo instead of just saying he has a combo and fucking off

how do i respond to tooth and nail + kiki-jiki + zealous conscripts in orzhov colors

i couldn't even stop this shit with instant removal. is the only thing that works is that split second removal (which will be 1 card out of 99 anyway)

>>50560096
torpor orb

Rolled 61 (1d100)

I am entrusting my next deck to the dice roll.

>1-33
Alesha
>34-66
Wort
>67-99
Slobad
>100
Sell all my shit and use the funds for Scion Hermit Druid

>>50560096
>couldn't even stop with instant speed removal

Uhh, how about killing kiki-jiki in response to him targeting it?

>>50560110
that seems like a great way to nullify 90% of my creatures

>>50560096
Angel's Grace

>>50560122
oops i fucked it up then i guess

it was my first time seeing that combo on xmage so that's what happens i suppose

>>50556488
That Sram looks like a cool dude.
Wonder what colours he is, and if he'd make a cool deck.

>>50560190
He seems boros.

So no, he won't

>>50560123
pithing needle and ways to gain information

>>50560204
From the description he seems more Azorius

>>50560112
Welp

Can't wait to drop a Decimate on my friend's Dark Depths and Memnarch

>tfw just bought some tutors and a blightsteel colossus

When did that thing become so expensive?

Anyways, planing on doing master transmuter + blightsteel with swiftfoot boots

Will people hate me?

>>50552763
Hmmmmm, I've now got an idea for a blue/red draw and die deck.

>>50560355
>When did that thing become so expensive?
Once EDH started really blowing up. It was around $5 when Innistrad was in Standard

>>50558759
Geist was made before Wizards publically stated that they were catering to EDH players in normal blocks. Ulrich was not. I agree though that Ulrich and Ludevic whining is stale.

>>50550103
Dude.

Chuck exploration and all the signets in there.

Keep the hand cycling.

Get yoself some double strike/double combat phase(Both is cruel and hilarious) enablers and protection for yidris, empty your hand with cascade triggers then refill.

Cascade a mana dork into the only 0 cmc card in your deck, Wheel of fate.

Yidris just plays itself if you get enough ramp and hand filling essentially.

>>50560696
He means Breya's -4/-4 I guess. For that he'll need hexproof sources or a lot of artifact removal to kick Breya out before casting Yidris.

Also,
>tfw Yidris coming in the mail this week
Can't wait to cascade into cascade into cascade.

>>50560718
Honestly I play vs breya a lot, I often just end up ramping enough to just cast him again when breya is depleted on artifacts, or use Yidris to deplete her of artifacts that way.

I could put up my list. I'll need a (you) to be bothered though :v

>>50560096
Holy Day, Angel's Grace, Angelsong, Doom Blade, Darkness, Sudden Spoiling.

>>50560718
Or just don't be fucking stupid enough to play a Yidris into a Breya-and-two-artifacts board.

>>50560696
So i am running extra combats and double strike enablers. I took out the
wheels and signets and put in land ramp. I need more protection against breya because the one i play recurs artifacts consistently. I see the benefit of wheels as disruption to block the combo but it also runs the risk of helping him dig for pieces too. As far as protection goes, hexproof, shroud and indestructible are on my radar. I run greeves, i got the lorwyn dual colored god auras, i lack indestructible but all i need is to prevent breya from targeting yidris.

I really want to cop a Toxic Deluge, as I'm nearing the completion of my deck and it's one of the few cards I don't have. Is it worth waiting for the EMA reprinting or is it unlikely the price will go down? It seems to be at a good low right now.

>>50560912
Wheels against Breya can also backfire spectacularly if she happens to draw into Scrap Mastery with a loaded grave. Run some grave hate, at least Bojuka Bog and Rakdos Charm to stop that.

>>50560949
...it's seven fucking dollars. Are you really holding off on a purchase that'd cost you less than a combo meal at McDonald's because you're worried that it might drop down to 4 dollars in SIX MONTHS?

>>50560912
Indestructible wouldn't save Yidris from -4/-4 though, go with hexproof and protection like you are doing now.

>>50561221
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>>50561229
2early

>>50560912
Here's my current list anyway.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/yidris-current/

Do I need to explain how disgusting palinchron is when it gains cascade? Double cascade even.

I'm considering cutting it because it's kind of fuqqing my group.

Consuming Aberration is extremely underrated.

>>50561144
Magic players tend to treat a magic card thats worth $ x differently from having cash in their pocket and tend to poorly evaluate the impact money has on their quality life.

Got seven dollars in crumpled bills in your laundry? Oh well. Lets get some food. Hey a new movie.

Got a seven dollar card? Better make a decision that will cost you at least a few hours of enjoyment because its resale value might lose $4 over six months.

>>50557964
Abzan being assigned as warriors was extremely odd and an exception to the rule.

>>50557173
Black Mike with proxy Mike. Does not include shipping.

>>50559295
Marath is sane doe.

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>>50563455
Plenty of Abzans were soldiers, and they generally kept with the "coordinated tactics vs. loners/skirmishers" theme.

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>>50555874
>mfw a card is so black it destroy spells instead of countering them

>>50550594
nice .dec names

THIS MUST BE THE WORK OF AN ENEMY 「STAND」!!

>>50555941
I did research and the sutistics say yes

>>50558184
>infinity is a number

>>50556143
Fungus tribal is possible. Use changelings to round out the deck.

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Everyone post your crew.

r8, h8, masturb8

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>>50556284
why not use its big brother?

>>50566019
why not Odrics instead of Pianna?

>>50556358
More like,
Allah Advikataar!

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>>50554888
It seems you are not pleased with that high quality alter. Not to worry, the art of the direction which you like was prepared.