Warhammer 40k General

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Let's start this general with some bingo!

Batman did nothing wrong

Traitor Legion photos where? I saw the rules on dakka but need harder proof.

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Blood Ravens! when?

>>50547677
>need harder proof.
I got harder when i heard the IW rumors

But i just pray they are all real

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Do you think they will release this model but in resin?

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>>50547492
>Making a new general long before the current one even reaches 300 sage count
>OP image that was funny the first time in the context of the OP Image wars, but not the 150 other times
>Horse dicks edition
>Outdated and wrong OP content that includes Space 0din instead off letting that shit have its own thread
>First post is the fucking Bingo no one ever actually plays

May God have mercy on your soul.

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>>50547771
What other general? I hit CTRL-F and only found a general that was at 470 and at it's bump limit.

>>50547808
The one linked to in that thread about 10 posts before you linked to your bait thread. Search better. Use Filters.

>>50547808
Why do you like horse cocks so much?

>>50547808
There is no mention of penis in that.

The "equine" comment was about his face.

>>50547677
Its from the same guy who did the wrath of magnus leaks.
He gets a review copy early. Its legit

>>50547808
See >>50546435

>>50547808
I hate that picture, the guy who wrote it is a fucking tool

Which legion has the sexiest space marines?

>>50548555
Emperor's Children, although easily tied with the Blood Angels.

>>50548602
>Emperor's Children
Trannies aren't sexy.

>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

Even though it's confirmed it won't entirely include GK, I hope we can get some cool =][= interaction going.

>>50548654
lies, some are

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Magnus assembled without his armor is literally Kars. Somebody needs to model a squirrel in his outstretched hand

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The way 1d4 chan explains the Traitor Legions rules is kinda confusing.

Some legions have "free votlw" and some have "compulsory votlw" but the tl;dr of the wording makes it unclear what the fuck is actually going on.

Which legions get actually free votlw, and which legions get free fearless?

>>50549043
The way I understand it - source: that horribly formatted and typo'ed article up on faeit - all the Traitor Legions get free Vets of the Long War. All of them get some bonus tied to their version of Vets of the Long War. For example, World Eaters get Fearless, Furious Charge and Adamantium will tied to their Vets of the Long War. Now as to which Legions actually got fearless? I'd have to double check the article but I am pretty sure at least EC, DG, WE and Tsons get free fearless.

New fag needs ideas for BT force. New to Warhammer 40k and is my first force.

>>50549135
Black Templars?

>>50549145
Yeah

>>50549130
>only the big 4 get fearless
>their cult troops are already fearless anyway

wew lad. although it looks like zerkers were made useless since according to 1d4chan the basic CSM in a world eaters army have fearless and furious charge so . . . they are exactly the same as berzerkers except no WS5

>package in the mail
>Chaos jetbike and prosthetics from Puppetswar, along with some heads and pads
>Mek Gunz, Traitor Librarian, Centurions, Onager, Bloodthrone, Tech-Priest Dominus and a classic metal Ogryn
The Dark Mechanicus are bolstered this day.

>>50549241
Same case with DG too, I believe. I wish the Vets of the Long War provides a different set of buffs though, if only to make Berserkers/Plague Marines slightly better but thems the breaks.

That being said both Plague Marines and Zerkers do have their uses. Zerkers at least are still required for Maelstrom of Gore and if you run the WE detachment, you get 2d6" extra movement after you deploy. This greatly increases your chances of a turn one charge.

>>50549135
What do you want your list to do?

>>50549180
Well, you have options. You could run 30k BT and have something closer to what black templars should be. Also, you can run Sigismund himself. A very rapetastic character.

>>50549241
>they are exactly the same as berzerkers except no WS5
no rage either, which means one less attack on your champion's S9 power fist

>>50549478
MoK gives them rage

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Assuming I'm playing HOR Kill Team, what's the best base weapon to outfit your five-man squad of Acolytes with?

I ask because I'm thinking of buying some Neophyte Hybrids and converting them to resemble Arbites in my Inquisitor's service.

>>50547808
They used 40,000 instead of 40k in the title

>>50549476
I would rather 40k templars not templar brethen as not many 30k players are in my area and overall prefer 40k

So I finally splurged and bought some Neophyte Hybrids, to convert into Chaos Cultists. How strongly is the ribbed-armour look associated with the Genestealer Cults? Should I cover them with something?

>>50549628
That's stupid. Everyone hits CTRL_F "40k g" as the shorthand. If I want to get to the other general, I would have to type in "Warhammer 40," to hit it.

>>50549392
I thought mabye use helbrecht and the emporers champion along with a terminator captain as marshal surrounded with terminator close combat squad with 10 initiate and 5 necrophytes with them backed up by laz-plas squads, but I wasn't sure that would work

Going to write up rules for Doomrider+ a formation with him and slaanesh bikers.

What would you want to see from such a thing?

>>50549680
>Everyone hits CTRL_F "40k g"
I really hope you're the only one who does this. Most people add variations of "Warhammer 4" to the filters.

>>50549825
i just use the search tool

>>50549729
Sounds like you want a BT flavored deathstar. Here's a couple of changes I'd do.

1. Drop the terminators. They can't perform Sweeping Advance, which is a big thing for BT. Swap em out for Honor Guard. If you don't want honor guard, get a nice, chunky Crusader Squad (20 man strong) is solid as well. Honor Guard are better though cos you can fit them in a Land Raider.

2. If you're running Helbrecht, a champ and a terminator captain(swap this out for artificer armor and storm shield), you'll need 2 CADs. Depending on your local meta, I'd see about getting another captain for another storm shield or swap out the champ for a captain. The reason is because you want to keep your deathstar relatively healthy. Unfortunately you cannot rely on psykers to buff your force so you're stuck doing this mundanely.

3. Crusader squads actually make really good fire support units. 5 man, 1 razor back (upgrade weapons optional) and give the crusader squads a grav cannon and a grav gun and watch them put the fear of the Emperor into anything that is 3+ or better. All this for a little under 200 pts, I believe.

How does all of this sound?

Traitor Legions are about to drop, here is my Night Lords list fa/tguys

Night Lords Detachment:
Raptor Talon:
Chaos Lord65; jump pack0, viox daemonicus30, lightning claw15, power fist25 135
5 Raptors; 2 meltaguns20, 1combi-meltagun10, votlw10 135
5 Raptors; 2 meltaguns20, 1combi-meltagun10, votlw10 135
5 Raptors; 2 meltaguns20, 1combi-meltagun10, votlw10 135

Chaos Warband:
Chaos Lord65;bike20, stormbolt plate20, lightning claw15, power fist25 145
Sorcerer60; bike20, lvl3 50, votlw5 135
3 Terminators95; 3 combi-plasmaguns 110
5 CSM 75
Rhino 35
5 CSM 75
Rhino 35
10 Bikers210; 2 meltaguns20, combi-meltagun10, power fist25, votlw10 275
10 Bikers210; 2 meltaguns20, combi-meltagun10, power fist25, votlw10 275
5 Havocs75; 4 autocannons40 115
Rhino 35

Spawn:
Spawn 30

What do you think? Is it more on the fluffy side or competitive side?

>>50550003
I am guessing the warband is there for obsec?

>>50550023
Yup, that and the bikes that jink on 2+ in the first turn, 3+ or better in the second. With the +1 cover armour the bike Lord can also help.
I'm counting on getting shrouding or invisibility on the sorcerer. Psychic Shriek is fluffy, so I will be rolling on telepathy anyway.

My only concern is the fact that Raptors have no aid when it comes to deep striking, they'll be literally flying in blind. But when they drop in to charge something, oh boy, the glorious slaughter :D

>>50549923
Sounds great but is there way I can use the terminator squad in a way that still makes them useful. Perhaps use them as objective holders, attention drawers or telaport them in the middle of enermies to cut them down

Also should I use a dreadnought as fire support or close combat.

Also I was thinking how to model artificer armor

>>50550003

VotLW is free on the Raptor Talon, btw. You got some extra points.

With the new traitor legions codex and emperors children, do a whole unit get to take an icon of excess to get a 4+ FnP or only one model?

>>50550579
Really need to know this, sorry for being persistent

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>>50549567

>>50547808
High testosterone will lead to bigger dicks, and Marines been roiding up since puberty.

The shrinkage taking steroids causes is your testicles, as the body tries to compensate for the abnormally large levels of testosterone by shutting down its own production, such as the testicles. On Marines the hormones are produced by the body itself, so they'd probably have sizable pair to go with the big dick.

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>Watch batrep video on YouTube
>Miniwargaming
>Matt plays Necrons
>Doesn't understand rules and recks some loser who wanted to fight the crons
>All the idiots in the comments spout that necrons are overpowered

Thank God I decided to start with necrons for my first army. Should have my first major army assembled by January

>>50550692

Im a skeleton with queer wrists and seven inches and I know alpha brodudes with tiny dicks

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Zo.ai the new Microsoft AI (you can chat with it on KIK) claims that warhammer 40K is literally the actual future of humanity.

>>50547769
They've ceased with resin. Finecast is shit anyway.

Sure enough chinaman could get you a couple if you have a raging hard on for resin

>>50550751
You think high testosterone is the only factor?

>>50550754

She's just referring to the canon, in which yes, 40k is our universe in the far future while Fantasy is well, fantasy.

>>50550751
this
dong is pretty varied desu
>barafag with average dong who bones a twink with almost 8 on a regular basis

>>50550294
I'll be honest with you. Terminators are only decent at the best of times and decidedly under average most times. But if you're dead set on terminators, a squad can act as a distraction or as a backline harassing unit pretty well (deepstrike em and run homers on all units that can). Just be aware that a ten man squad is already 350 pts without upgrades. That's painful

>Also should I use a dreadnought as fire support or close combat.
All dreads are good at both though ironclads are better at cc than fire support. It really comes down to which dread are you bringing really. For me? Considering how melee heavy you're going, I'd take an assault cannon and a fist with heavy flamer on the dread. Have it march up and shoot things that are not engaged in melee with your dudes and charge small sized units to finish them off.

>Also I was thinking how to model artificer armor
Honestly, no one will mind if you just say "This guy is my captain and he is in artificer armor". Now if you want to go the extra mile, you can do the sternguard kit or if you're made of money, check out forgeworld.

>>50550267
How hardcore is your meta?

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Zo.Ai claims Gellar fields are real thing and she knows who makes them. Lol probably bullshit but is interesting.

Maybe she can tell me how to summon slaanesh.

Does anyone have datasheet / PDFs of deathwatch Overkill and Death Masque?

>>50549781
He disappears if you roll a 1 at the beginning of the turn.

Did the 30 imperium have the feudal system that 40k imperium does with all its nobles houses and shit or did that appear after the Heresy?

Hey checking because leaks don't make in clear to me, does it look like all of the compulsory VotlW legions get it for free, or only a few?

Cheers anons.

>>50550294
>>50550881

There is a way that I've found to get use out of Terminators that most people seem to not use.

Put them in a fast attack drop pod. They get a lot more scary when they drop in T1. I'd recommend Cataphratii flavor, but shooty with a CML or TH/SS can work too.

Drop them on a weak flank and they might help keep your opponent bunched up enough for the deathstar to do their thing.

Only real downside is you can't attach any characters to them.

>>50550857
wait they're not doing resin anymore?
fuck sake I fucking hate working with metal

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>>50551176
Is this bait? Most models are become plastic now, anon.

>>50551138
>>50550881

Thanks anon's I will start writing up my list now

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How do Farsight Armies get to take Tau Empire Signature Systems?

Everyone seem to agree that is the case, but the most recent book with farsight rules in (Mont'ka) specifically says they cannot.

What FAQ or Errata or interpenetration am I missing?

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>>50551897
The actual Farsight Enclaves supplement says it.
When the discrepancy was pointed out, GW email drones responded that they can.
The Errata for Mont'ka changes the wording to match Farsight Enclaves supplement.

>>50550622
>>50550579
One model takes the icon to give the unit 4+ FnP. If the icon bearer is sniped out the unit drops to a 6+ FnP

>>50547492
>https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
So, there used to be rules databases with actual PDF files, not EPUB, what the hell happened to those?

>>50549567

Shotguns if you intend to charge them, Lasguns if you just want cheap guns.

Consider Bolters if you're facing a good deal of MEQ, and Hot-Shot Lasguns if you're facing MEQ or SEQ (Scion equivalent?).

Otherwise, cheap guns for the frugal god and use your Acolytes as cannon fodder. It really depends on what you intend for them.

>>50552547

I've been looking for a CSM epub for about 6 months now.

>>50552547
They're in the good general. >>50546435

OP Anon using an outdated template.

Unless you mean "What happened, why have those stopped being updated?" In which case A) pdf conversion seems increasingly rare. B) All megas except the EPUB one stopped being updated, or weren't updated in a timely manner.

>>50549241
It's actually pretty cool what they've done with the Legion rules.

Any model with VotLW (which will be everyone but cultists and vehicles in most forces) gets substantial benefits and gets VotLW for free. DG get stuff like +1 Toughness, Fearless, and Relentless, WE get Fearless, Furious Charge, etc...

So this makes every model in the army just like their cult unit, right? So what's the point in even having that cult unit if everyone else in the army has the same benefits?

But here's the thing - the cult units are meant to represent units from that Legion being lent or used by different Chaos forces outside that legion. Plague Marines represent DG in a Renegades army, Berserkers represent WE in a Crimson Slaughter army, etc etc etc.

This is why they're more expensive and Elites - every marine in DG is a plague marine, but they're far rarer in forces outside the DG.

From a design perspective it's pretty cool - the Legions get ways to represent themselves effectively, finally, and their cult units still have a place in non-Legion armies to represent small forces provided to those non-Legion armies.

>>50547677
Photos of rules on bell of lost souls confirm nightlords

Things look legit

>>50552716
Post?

>>50552716
It's already confirmed from the description that all 9 Traitor Legions will get their own rulesets.

I bought sisters to use as inq henchman a while back, how happy I am that I can just use the sisters as is now. Also someone was saying psykers will be able to be taken. I'm hoping I can finally do an all sanctioned psyker army.

>>50549366
I expect when the codex eventually gets re written the cults will get buffed

Expecting zerks to go back to 2 attacks base and maybe chain axes

# DG - bike-star (1849pts/1850pts)

# Cyclopia Cabal (495pts)

Sorcerer (195pts)
2x ML, Bike, Spell familiar, The Black Mace, VoTLW

Sorcerer (150pts)
2x ML, Bike, Spell familiar, VoTLW, Force Stave

Sorcerer (150pts)
2x ML, Bike, Spell familiar, VoTLW, Force Stave

## CAD (1354pts)

Rules: Ideal Mission Commander, Objective Secured (Troops), Death Guard Legion

### HQ (160pts)

Chaos Lord (160pts)
Bike, MoN, Sigil, Warlord, Plaguebringer
> Plaguebringer: AP3 poison 4+ deamon weapon

### Troops (505pts)

Chaos Cultists (70pts)
MoN

CSM (145pts)
5x Chaos Marine, Chaos Rhino, MoN, Meltagun, Combi-melta

CSM (145pts)
5x Chaos Marine, Chaos Rhino, MoN, Meltagun, Combi-melta

CSM (145pts)
5x Chaos Marine, Chaos Rhino, MoN, Meltagun, Combi-melta

### Fast Attack (299pts)

Chaos Bikers (299pts)
9x Chaos Biker, MoN, 2x Plasma Gun, Power fist

### Heavy Support (390pts)

Havocs (130pts)
4x Autocannon, MoN

Havocs (130pts)
4x Autocannon, MoN

Havocs (130pts)
4x Autocannon, MoN

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why does everyone hate Tau?
They have bombass mechs and shit

>>50552710
But can I take Havocs with Blastmasters?

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I hope no one in your store does this to their minis.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/387478.page

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What does /tg/ think of the new design of Silver Towers? They were in the old Epic game as literal floating castle towers. Bit different now.

>>50552911
>mechs

You mean monsters :^)

Anyone ever seen any reasonable conversions for corsair jetpacks? I don't really want to pay FW costs but I really like the concept.

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>>50552933
>You mean monsters :^)
they look pretty mech to me bro

>>50552924
At first I felt like you were overreacting to a Gundam paint scheme which I don't think is THAT bad. But it was so much worse...

>>50552924
I actually think this is really neat

>>50552925
I actually like it a lot. The idea of each Sorcerer having his own that works like drop fortress is pretty cool.

Though it reminded me of this one recent mecha anime where guys from Mars had "landing castles" or something along those lines that functioned the same way. I don't recall the name however.

>>50552924
i play warhammer for warhammer, if i want animu i go watch animu.
So no, i wouldn't do this

>>50552924
Paint on the fire warriors is a little thick, but overall its a nicely painted and converted army. What's the deal?

>>50552924

It started off so decent. Hell, I love the Harro drones, but then it rapidly devolved.

>>50552925
I dont understand why they are portrayed as both, being actual citadels on one page and switching to silver eye obelisks in the next

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>>50552996
>nicely painted and converted army

100th post for Raptors being the most cancerous marine chapter that isn't produced by /tg/.

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>>50552925
I remember seeing unused concept art for Tzeentch fantasy minis but I can't find the pictures of the silver towers.

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>>50552911
>>50552957
>why does everyone hate Tau?

>most of their named characters feel like bad OCs

>most incompetent player base.
"standing at the back and only using the shooting phase helps me win right?"

>one of the most annoying player bases.
tied with marines and chaosfags
"WAAAH GW GIVE US MORE ROBOTS (MC)"

gee i dunno

>>50553084
>me
>butthurt
This is bait.

>>50550322
Only if it were Black Legion/Traitor's Hate.

>>50549241

Thousand Sons Don't get fearless. They only get Hatred Space Wolfs and Blessings buffs

>>50553110
>most of their named characters feel like bad OCs
That remains true for multiple other armies, like IG or GK.

>most incompetent/annoying player base
You're making stuff up based on your own feelings about Tau. I bet you can't point to a single case of either statement being said unironically without scouring the depths of B&C for a few hours.

>>50553127

It's also free with the Night Lords rules.

>>50553110
>"standing at the back and only using the shooting phase helps me win right?"
uh if they can destroy enemies without going in close then why would they?
This is a viable strategy if it works, isn't it?
>one of the most annoying player bases
dunno never met one so i can't tell

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>>50552924
>Youmu
Tasteful choice. I can at least forgive him for being enough of a SEEDfag to base his commander off a Strike.

>>50553110
doesnt the whole player base basically play chaos or marines?
I understand if you play something else main, but everyone plays one of the two, or both

who wouldn't want to play a memetastic white scars stormlance ot iron hands armoured task force

>>50552933
>>50552957

To fight monsters, we created monsters of our own.

BA DA DAAA DA DA DUM da DUM DA DUM, DUM da DUM DA DUM

>>50553053
>Expecting Tzeentch constructs to have a consistent shape

Why don't you fuck back over to the Garden of Nurgle.

>>50553110
For my money the worst bit about Tau is they can do interesting high mobility stuff (Suits clearing objectives, shooty suits flanking, and fire warriors advancing to capture them) yet every goddamn Tau player is

>here is my line of units
>they'll stand still and shoot for the rest of the game like some 18th century musket blocks
>top tier tactics

Just got my Thousand Sons dice in the mail. I'm not usually one to care about the minor weight variations in most gaming dice, but these dice seem to be missing a pretty significant amount of material from the skull's on the 1 position.

>>50552924

further proof tau players are the worst in the world. Even when you finally find a painted one to play against, they do this.

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>>50553244

You have no idea how much this pisses me off as a Deldar player.

>Deldar are supposed to be maximum mobility
>penalties for moving more than 6"
>cant move after shooting

>giant fuck off robots
>can move before and after shooting
>doesn't

>>50553244

I don't particularly like Tau but I can tell you good Tau players don't do that because playing a gunline is a very good way to get beaten quickly and badly.

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>>50552924
At first I thought it was a pretty nice army. Decent paint-job, fully-painted, some minor but well-executed conversions. Then I hit this and it all came to a screaming halt.

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Damn you guys are not helping me to decide on race at all.

"Hey those guys have awesome wol-"
>FUCKING FURRIES GET OUT OF WARHAMMER
"o-ok, but those space monsters look feroc-"
>WHAT ARE YOU ANON, A GIRL? ONLY GIRLS LIKE TYRANIDS"
"fine, how about those cool robo-"
>"FUCKING TAUFAGS REEEEEEEE"

Why am i even trying to go back

>>50553352

Friend, buddy, guy - just make the swap to Corsairs.

>>50553408

You're letting idiots dictate what you like or not?

>>50553420
>his ego isn't so weak that he requires the constant praise and adoration of neckbeards across the globe just to get up in the morning
Normies get out reeeeeee.

>>50553355

Just because the gunline jets behind the same piece of cover every turn after they're done firing doesn't change the fact that it's a static gunline. Their net movement over the course of the game is zero.

>>50553408
Follow your heart anon, you'll deeply regret it if you get stuck with an army you don't like.

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>>50553408
Play Orks then ya grot

>>50553408

Honestly the fact that women love Tyranids is a bonus not a con. The only reason you shouldn't play Tyranids is if their terrible rules bother you and you wanted to play an army with hundreds of little guys instead of a couple giant winged monsters.

>>50553419

>just play a completely different army!

>>50553408
Play Imperial Guard like a real man.

>>50553484
Just play a slightly less spiky army*

>>50553488
>Play Imperial Guard loike a real git

>>50553505
Gork and Mork pls go

I want to branch out from MEQs but I can't decide on a flavor of xenos. Top priority is modeling and then fluff.

>Tau
New Battleforce makes this a tempting option. Battlesuits look fun to paint and pose.

>(Dark) Eldar
I'd probably want to run Ulthwe since they're my favorite Craftworld. I don't care much for Dark Eldar nowadays but they have nice models.

>Tyranids
A lot different painting-wise from MEQs which would be a nice change of pace. Also, yes, I find them cute.

>Orks
Honestly I don't really have any desire to play them. I just like the looted vehicle potential. Part of me is tempted to have them hijack any of the above (especially tyranids)

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>>50553488

>>50553448
>tell the Tau player he doesn't have to bother moving his dudes if he's just going to jump right back to where he is
>he still takes longer to resolve his turn than I do
>I'm playing Warpflame Host based Daemons with ~70 models on the board turn 1
Same fuck nugget is always complaining that my psychic phase takes too long, despite me going through my 20-30 dice faster than he can resolve the shooting of a pair of Stormsurges.

>>50552924
Ehh not the worst paint job in the world. I'd rather he use a more normal scheme like what Zeon used. (For the most part)

>>50553456
but i don't like orkz bro. they are green and mean!

>>50549567
>that pic
reminds me of the fargo clan.
her chin is fargo worthy

>>50553501

In a completely different rule book with completely different models from a completely different company

>>50552780
The key is this stuff matches the leaked rules

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/12/codex-traitor-legions-the-night-lords.html

>>50553573
That's the point!
They're made for fightin' and winnin'!

>>50549241
WS 5 and two attacks ffs.

DG plague marines get two attacks and a poisen weapon for less then cost of the a suped up csm dude.

You fucking internet morons that never played csm before need to read a god damn book.

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>>50552924
>free hand miku
>animu heads
>vocaloid shit.
all this weebamu

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>>50553408
As a SW player I must say they're a pretty versatile army, they can be build either for shooting, close combat or both, they have pretty solid units and different builds with different bonuses, also thunderwolves are meme'ed because they're a solid unit that can take a good beating and still being a threatening unit, lastly if the wolves units aren't of your liking most formations don't make them mandatory so you can just skip or include them if you like.

Bonus since they're loyal marines they can include pic releated

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>>50553612
>>50553488
>>50553456
>>50553470
>>50553420
>>50553455
i can't fucking decide, i am a fucking loser aaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Why deciding on shit has to be so hard

>>50553521
Unless you're really good at modelling, your best bet for that is Orks.

If you want, you could pick something like Tau to play, but then model it as Orks with stolen Tau guns/looted vehicles. You can fluff it as a bunch of Flash Gitz who captured a Tau supply depot or something.

Although you should probably go with what your gut feeling already was.

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>>50553377
n-notice me baka senpai

>>50553649
>that pic
I kind of want one of these, but I can't reasonably justify a chapter founded in M36 having one locked away in the basement.

>>50553596
>completely different company

There's literally a FW unit in the GW Escalation book, multiple FW units in the GW Apocalypse book, and FW made models for two GW box sets.

How people still think FW is a separate company by now is beyond me.

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>>50553377

>>50553663
just roll for it:
dubs decides his new army

>>50553521
If you want to break out of meq just play thousand sons

>>50553521
If you dont care about game rules dark eldar are actually a ton of fun to build and come up with background stories for as you are given freedom to do whatever the hell you want with them in both respects

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>>50553669

>>50553693
admech

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>>50553663
ORKS
ORKS
ORKS

>>50553663

Choose either chaos, imperium or eldar

You can play running allies

Choose one of those and play chaos space marines with demons and imerial guard, deathwatch, space marines , IG , Gay Knights etc... or Harlequins with Eldar and / or Dark Eldar

>>50553663
If Space Wolves were your first instinct, play Space Wolves.

Otherwise play Tau

>>50553689

Then why not include the models in the main site and rules?

>>50553663
>>50553693
RENEGADES

>>50553640
Zerks have 1 attack dipshit

>>50553640
>You fucking internet morons that never played csm before need to read a god damn book.
Bro, Khorne Berzerkers and Plague Marines are 1A base. Sure, they get +1 A for 2 CCW, but so do regular CSM. Hell, you can even take an uber grit CSM with MoK for less than a Berzerker.

Maybe you should read the book.

>>50553693
death korps of kreig

>>50553706
funny enough, i'm an admech player too. I just thought the kawaii robots were too similar to the weeb tau linked

>>50553663

I started out having to decide between SoB because boobs, GK because shining super knights, DA because robes, SW because vikings, BA because assault, BT because tabards, and Ultramarines.

Ended up dropping SoB, then GK/DA/BA/SW because they were too snowflakey. Then dropped BT and started with Ultramarines since they were so basic and well covered. Like the Ryu of 40K.

Then ended up quitting Ultramarines and playing Carcharodons. PICK RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

>>50553693
>>50553706
>>50553708
>>50553709
>>50553716
>>50553725
it's a huge split between SW, Tyranids and Tau

>>50553669
I like them.

Gluing the bobble-heads onto Fire Warriors killed it for me. The decals on the tanks were extremely tacky, but those fucking heads were just hideous.

>>50553663

Your new army is CC Tau

>>50553673

That's a good point. Pretty much the Minotaurs and Red Scorpions would be the only non-2nd foundings to realistically have one.

But scavenging one is an option. Many of the litanies of glories for relic vehicles describe how they used to be legion vehicles that were recovered from famous battle sites, possibly even from traitor legions, which is the source of their special abilities like Hatred: Chaos Space Marines.

0111011101101000011110010111011101101111011101010110110001100100011110010110111101110101011100000110111101110011 01110100011100110111010101100011011010000110000101101110011000010110001001101111011011010110100101101110011000010111010001101001011011110110111000111111

>>50553760
go spess, you have the most options with it.
you can switch to chaos
d angels
wufs
deathwatch
dangels
blood angels
30k
etc etc

>>50553721
>main site

Betrayal at Calth and Burning of Prospero are on the main site.

>rules

Did you not read, faggot? I just told you the fucking rules for multiple FW units are in GW books like Escalation and Apocalypse.

The whole point of separating the two lines even though they're from the same company is TO HAVE THAT SEPARATION TO BEGIN WITH. Do you also ask why Lexus doesn't just throw all their cars on the Toyota site since Lexus is a division of Toyota? Use your fucking brain, dipshit.

>>50553673
Maybe they rescued it from some ancient battle site. Maybe the Dread wanted to spread his wisdom to a new founding. Maybe they got it as a gift from another chapter after the previous occupant died.

As far as Heresy-era equipment, the sky's the limit. Unless you're a filthy fucking heretic.

>>50553782
011011110111000001110000011100110010110000100000011010010111001100100000011011010110010101100001011011100111010000100000 011001100110111101110010 >>50553743

>>50553521
I'm a Tau player.

Orks have the best fluff. When they win, it's hilarious. When they loose, it's still hilarious and Ork Fans aren't butthurt about it. Not only that, but being the satire that they are, they are the true spirit of the game, a spirit forgotten by the actual game.I've actually just convinced myself to go ahead and get DoW3 instead of waiting for the Tau DLC.

Orks have some incredible modeling opportunities. You can buy literally any model, cut it to pieces and make it look Orky, and it's not only lore friendly, but lore encouraged. The Orkier the better, and

The problem is that they play like absolute shit. Just utter dog shit. It's very sad. I still plan to start an Ork force one day, but it will be entirely hobby until they get repaired.

>>50553175
>That remains true for multiple other armies, like IG or GK.
ill give you that but I doesn't make it acceptable

>You're making stuff up based on your own feelings about Tau. I bet you can't point to a single case of either statement being said unironically without scouring the depths of B&C for a few hours.

literally every tau player ive ever met at my lgs

>>50553194
>uh if they can destroy enemies without going in close then why would they?
This is a viable strategy if it works, isn't it?

>if it works, isn't it?

>if it works

>if

I have never once lost to a tau gunline army and I never will. That shit is so easy to beat its almost comical.

>dunno never met one so i can't tell
be glad

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Iron warriors best warriors.

Chaos Warband (1760pts)
Favoured Scions, Objective Secured
Chaos Bikers (70pts)
2x Chaos Biker (40pts), Veterans of the Long War
Veterans of the Long War
Chaos Biker Champion (30pts)
Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
Champion of Chaos

Chaos Lord (162pts)
Chainfist (15pts), Combat familiar (15pts), Gift of Mutation (10pts), Lightning Claw (17pts), Terminator Armour (40pts), Veterans of the Long War
Bulky, Champion of Chaos, Fearless, Independant Character, Relentless, Veterans of the Long War

6x Chaos Space Marines (142pts)
4x Chaos Marine with Boltgun (52pts), Meltagun (10pts), Veterans of the Long War
Veterans of the Long War
Aspiring Champion (33pts)
Combi-melta (10pts)
Champion of Chaos
Chaos Rhino (47pts)
Havoc Launcher (12pts)

3x Chaos Terminators (112pts)
Veterans of the Long War
Deep Strike, Veterans of the Long War
Chaos Terminator (36pts)
Combi-melta (5pts), Power Axe
Chaos Terminator (36pts)
Combi-melta (5pts), Power Maul

Helbrute (135pts)
Missile launcher w/ frag + krak (10pts), Twin-linked lascannon (25pts)
Crazed, Twin-Linked
Sorcerer (205pts)
2x Additional Mastery Level (50pts), Bike (20pts), Combat familiar (15pts), Force Axe, Melta bombs (5pts), Power Armour, Power Weapon (15pts), Sigil of corruption (25pts), Spell familiar (15pts), Veterans of the Long War, Warlord
Champion of Chaos, Independant Character, Psyker, Veterans of the Long War

>>50553816

>rules not included in the codexes or supplements
>models and rules only sold on separate site

You're right, why would anyone think they're unofficial?

>>50553721

FW doesn't have its own stock, FW site has GW copyright text on it, FW site is linked to on GW's website and copyright text. You don't get to arbitrarily decide what constitutes a different company or not with stupid requirements like websites and books. Or are you going to say Angels of Death is printed by a different company since it's not in Codex: Space Marines?

>>50553673
Yes they can, just give them a different paint job, in a flesh readers audio drama a psychic dreadnought still remember the legion but know that they are no longer from the "progenitor " chapter.

>>50553848
Because they're retarded. FW books openly state that they're fair game for 40k, and FW IS a subdivision of Citadel. There is no rational anti-FW stance.

>>50553847
>not using a Warpsmith
>not using new supplement
Disgraceful.

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>>50553848

If you think FW is unofficial you're a fucking idiot. Straight up.

So I'm working on putting together my first real list. I want it to be handle most things, but I'll for the most part be fighting Tau, Nids, Space Wolves, and Necrons.

The plan is form a gunline and shoot anything that moves on the first few turns and then advance into the ruins of the enemy formations. Tanks can move to shred foes that get lucky and the Manticore can blast apart particularly tough foes. Any suggestions are appreciated.

1843/1850

IG CAD:


>>HQ: (113 pts)

CCS: Carapace Armor, Medi-pack, Plasma Gun, Regimental Standard


>>Troops: (810 pts)

2x Infantry Platoons:
1 Infantry Squad: All Lasguns
1 Infantry Squad: Lasguns and Commissar
1 HWS: 3x Lascannons
1 HWS: 1x Autocannon, 2x Hbolter
PCS: All Lasguns, Chimera w/ Hbolter, Multilaser, H Stubber


>>Fast Attack: (100pts)

2x Armoured Sentinal Squads: (200pts)
2x Lascannons

>>Heavy Support: (720pts)

Leman Russ Squad (270 pts)
Battle Tank: H bolter w/o sponsons
Eradicator: H bolter w/o sponsons

Leman Russ Squad (280pts)
2x Punisher: H bolter w/o sponsons

Manticore (170pts)

>>50553870
>flesh readers
Flesh tearers, I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that.

>>50553848
>why doesn't my own stupidity and ignorance justify my stupidity and ignorance

Why indeed?

>>50553870
Crotchety, senile dreadnought that fights with a later-founding chapter but insists on legion colors when?
>BACK IN MY DAY ALL THE SONS OF DORN WORE YELLOW!

>>50553848
smart people shutup after they've been proven wrong

>>50553880
It also says Games Workshop in the book spine

>>50553673
Minotaurs, Red Scorpions, Consecrators, Auric Patricians.

Each of hese chapters would have Leviathans, and the Red Scorpions Chapter Master will be in one soon.

Minotaurs are just filthy rich since they're the High Lords pets.

The Consecrators are legitimately one of the richest chapters around, having no MkVII or MkVIII, and a crapton of relics, even for a Dark Angels Successor.

The Auric Patricians armor is solid gold. Their name means Gold Nobles. GOLD!

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>>50553958
Kek I want this.

>>50553904
Check your info dipshit. Add a spawn and you got a IW army.

>>50553972
>Leviathan Moloch
Oh shit. Fellow marinefags better watch out.

>>50553863

You can buy Angels of Death from games-workshop.com. There is no room for doubt.

>>50553880

Then why doesn't GW sell FW from their home site? Why don't they include forgeworld units in their codexes?

>>50553960

Smart people question things

>>50553911

They're using GW copyrights to make models. That doesn't mean forgeworld rules are official rules.

>>50553943

Again, why not sell their models and rules from the main site? Surely it would be more profitable because more people would buy them. It's almost like they're not actually official rules.

>>50553673
>Original chapter hates dreadnought
>Gets passed down to each new chapter because everyone hates the unstable bastard
>Now your chapter has it and has made the mistake of awakening him

Everyone prays that he dies one of this days so they can put someone else in it.

>>50554020
Anon, be careful. With how much FW loves the Red Scorpions, it won't even be his final form.

>WARLORD TITAN CULLN WHEN?

>>50554033
>Smart people question things

And the smartest find out things for themselves.

>>50553848
Does GW store offer all the BL products and services?

Also, have you missed all the FW models and rules that HAVE made it to 40k? Hydras, Manticores, various Russ variants, all the HH models, volkite weapons, etc. all were FW models with FW rules before becoming part of 40k.

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>>50554033

>>50554033
Why does any of that matter? You're wrong. Forge World is Games Workshop. It's literally an easily verifiable fact.

>>50554033
First off, this is bait. Second off, the new GW FAQ references Eldar Corsairs for the purposes of Slaanesh demons getting preferred enemy against Eldar.

Fucking stop.

>>50552924
Honestly, the transports are good enough that I would stop caring. That's a good paint job on those rides, and playing them might motivate me to get my ass back in the paint shop.

>>50554038
>eventually he reaches a chapter where their deviation from the legion is so vast that he fits right in
>for the first time in 10,000 years, the Dreadnought finally feels at home
>suddenly the chapter is almost entirely wiped out by a Tyranid invasion
>chapter just gets folded back into the progenitor chapter

Are the Thousand Sons still too skub to talk about?

>>50554097
>implying chapter wasn't Scythes of the Emperor
>he's finally alone now

>>50553352
Every tau player I know sets up their suits in cover hops the out, shots, hops them back in. Maybe your playing with kids too young to know tactics?

>>50554033
>Surely it would be more profitable because more people would buy them.

Depends, FW is a made to order seller that sells exclusive shit at high prices, they dont sell much but what they do sell is close to 100% profit for GW because they dont have to mantain a store. You open those products for more demand you start adding costs for new moulds that may start breaking faster, shipping costs, new personnel to handle the demand, storage facilities for the new product, etc which start cutting into your profit margin of a niche product in an already small market, you may start seeing less profit than before which is why FW has never had a presence in stores until now and even then its only small products.

>>50551484
unless they specifically switch to plastic I assume they go to metal
I just really hate working with metal

>>50553408
Forget what 4chan says play what you think looks cool. Play Eldar if you like the look of elder. Play marines if you like the look of Marines. Play Blood Angels, or Grey Knights if you like them.

>>50552924
I actually like it

>>50553916
Personally I would drop 2 Armored Sentinels to get Pask and an Astropath.

The Astropath in the CCS will give you potentially Shrouding on his unit and any within 6 inches or Invisibility to unit within 24 inches. Could be good for your 20 man blob.

Take Pask and put him in one of the Punishers and bring the second Punisher with him as well. Pask will have Rending and both Pask and the other Punisher will get Old Grudge, preferred enemy against whatever Codex you choose. It's also nice because with the tank orders, Pask and the other Punisher can split their fire to different targets.

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>>50554165
When's the last time they've made a new metal model, anon?

>>50554065

It's not bait.

>>50554062

How does it not matter? Seriously, why doesn't it matter? If they're official, why aren't they treated as such? Why not put that shit into the codexes instead of random books you have to buy from a totally different website that most player will never visit and most of those who do, denounce them anyway?

>>50554150

Then the small market becomes a big market. I can't imagine the cost of shopping more from selling more would decrease profits. Wear and tear on molds is expedited, but again, so are sales.

>>50554204
hush
I've come to expect the worst from literally everything

>>50554180
>Play Eldar if you like the look of elder
>implying anyone will play vs. Eldar

One doesn't simply play Eldar.

>>50554227
>why aren't they treated as such?

They are. Just because you say they aren't doesn't mean they aren't. Again, both 30k box sets are on the main site. Why do you insist a division that a company specifically set apart be reeled back in?

Maybe they figured people as stupid as you wouldn't be able to afford the luxury division's more expensive goods.

>>50554180

>play what you want
>except dark eldar because then you should play this third party army instead!

>>50554227
>and most of those who do, denounce them anyway?

It's just you. You're literally the only retard in the past 1 year who still acts like this. FW is so accepted, they don't even have 40k approved stamps anymore, they just threw everything that wasn't 30k exclusive into 40k.

>>50554240

I play against eldar quite often with my Deldar. I also so don't win very often against them.

>>50553663
join the greater good

we got big mechs and blue girls

>>50554228
No really anon, when's the last time? Are you okay?

>>50554190
That sounds brilliant! I'll do that! Thank you

>>50554316
>No really anon, when's the last time?
3+ years ago?
>Are you ok
not exactly

>>50553916

>Medipack on CCS
waste of 15 points. Get a weapon team there instead.

>PCS in Chimera
Get that runty 30 point unit out of that tank, unless you're upgrading them with quad Flamers/Meltas.
Otherwise put the CCS in a Chimera.

>Chimera loadout
Some people like Autocannons on their Chimera turret, but I say Multilasers are the way to go. Always take Heavy Flamers on your hull gun, if applicable. Heavy stubber could be points spent better somewhere else.

>Mixed HWS weapons
Avoid this. Always aim for specialisation in a unit over flexability.

>Sentinels
Be wary that their front armour is the only thing that will keep them alive. They can tarpit an infantry unit very well if you can charge something that's unprepared to hit AV12.

>Sponsons on a LR battle tank
Most new IG players don't see this pitfall coming. Anything firing ordnance Battle cannon, Demolisher cannon, Manticore rockets forces all other weapons on the vehicle to snap fire.

>Mixed LR variants in a squadron
See HWSs above. Flexability can only hurt your odds.

Manticore is a solid vehicle killer, hard to go wrong with it.
I highly recommend a lvl2 primaris psyker, or Coteaz if you're willing, to cast divination powers on either your manticore/Punisher squadron/lasgun lines.

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>>50554033
>Forge World is part of Games Workshop
>The Website is a site operated by Forge World (trading name of Games Workshop Limited) (we/us/our).
>Forge World is a trading name of Games Workshop Limited.
>Forge World (trading name of Games Workshop Limited)
>We at Games Workshop love to see pictures of our hobbyists enjoying the hobby.

Yup, nothing on FW site linking them to GW at all.

>They're using GW copyrights to make models. That doesn't mean forgeworld rules are official rules.

Yeah, so why is Forge World among the copyrights GW owns?

>© Copyright Games Workshop Limited 2000 – 2016. GW, Games Workshop, Citadel, FORGE WORLD, Warhammer,

0/10 for effort.

>>50554263

Both 30k box seats are sold as stand alone games with stand alone rules.


>>50554276

Except its not just me. It's literally everyone I've ever played with. Every single one has been against forgeworld.

How many tournaments allow forgeworld? None that I've ever been to. In fact, they make it very clear that if you want to use forgeworld models, they have to count as something official.

>>50554375

The FW link is at the bottom of the website in small print under "Related Sites"

It's like they're trying to hide it.

>>50554033
>Then why doesn't GW sell FW from their home site?
Huh, I guess I that Blood Bowl box was just a figment of my imagination then.

>>50547492
is the new space hulk a limited time only kind of thing? i kinda want it but i dont have money for it right now.

>>50554350
>Most new IG players don't see this pitfall coming. Anything firing ordnance Battle cannon, Demolisher cannon, Manticore rockets forces all other weapons on the vehicle to snap fire.
I had no idea. When I played if I moved 6 inches I could fire everything. I guess my sponsons will just be cosmetic. This makes me feel like those 3 Leman Russ tanks aren't that great anymore. I guess I'll take my Punisher and Executioner instead.

>>50554461
Yeah, just like they're trying to hide Black Library, Warhammer, Investor Relations, Jobs, Retailers, and Licensed Products, for example.

Also, I've been to a tournament that banned Fortifications, so what's your point?

Guys.

Stop.

FUCKING.

REPLYING.

TO

FUCKING

BAIT.

Jesus.

On an unrelated note: If you moved your Leman Russes so they were ass-to-ass, could you see the rear armor of the back Leman Russ from the front (at least at ground level or slightly above)?

>>50554492
yup
no clue when it disappears

>>50554227

I'm sure the guy who couldn't figure out FW and GW were the same company knows all about how to run a multi-million dollar publicly traded company with a global customer-base.

>>50554461
>How many tournaments allow forgeworld? None that I've ever been to.

How about you stop posting until you've done some more research. The two largest tournament circuits both allow Forge World.

>>50554515

Obviously, fortifications have never existed, nor been GW official.

>>50554556

I wish the same could be said about Black Library.

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>>50554528
fuck

ill just have hope its still available in january.

i bet it wont

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>>50547492

I just sacrificed several hours of my life fixing the Chaos Space Marines tactica article. Whoever was editing it before had no idea how to do consistent formatting.

I've set it up like this, based on the general standard for tactica articles on the wiki:

1) faction overview
2) wargear, psychic powers, special rules etc.
3) guide to units
4) guide to supplements(for easy bookkeeping)
5) generic formations
6) subfaction-specific rules
7) general tactics

It's ready for you guys to start filling out the new Traitor Legions tactics, just don't screw it all up again this time lads.

>>50554526

>could you see the rear armor of the back Leman Russ from the front
Not from the front, but a precise angle would give a shot if the attacker somehow was able to stay in the angle targetting rear armour.
Why on earth would you put your Russ in a position like that?

>>50553668
>Implying that I had a gut feeling to begin with.

>>50554515

Fortifications rules and models are available from the games workshop website with rules in the official rule book.

Forgeworld is not.

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>>50554606
I hope so too anon
I spent all my money on christmas gifts for friends and family

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>>50553132

Thousand Sons automatically have Fearless anyway

>>50549642
The ribbed look is just for the industrial style they were going with the default cult just like how imperial guards are represented by cadian models. You could dress them up in robes or suits and both could be equally fluffy for genesteal cults.

>>50554628

No they're not. Fortifications are no longer in the official rulebook. Their rules are found in the Fortifications supplement. Just like Forge World units are found in the Forge World supplements, and OFFICIAL GW SUPERHEAVY SUPPLEMENT SOLD ON THE OFFICIAL GW SITE

I just finished Dark Adeptus, have any of you all read it?

I found it surprisingly good. It humanized the Grey Knights and made Marines on a whole look reasonable, plus the political portrayal of the different factions was good. Chaos as usual was a mix of retards and Mcguffin doomsdays, bit the DarkMech spin on it, imo, was really cool.

I can't tell if I like the character layout, on the one hand there was little (none) character development which made relationships to people rather boring, but on the other hand it plays nicely to the grimdark setting. What about you?

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>>50552924

Tau players, everyone.

>>50554774
I play Tau and I'm not a weeb fag! I don't even like anime!

I'm a cyberpunk fag.

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A-T FIELDO MAX POWER

>>50554815
Fellow Cyberpunk Taufag!

Although, I enjoy my Japanese cartoons, I don't own a single figure/daki.

I realized today that Tau boxes come with transfers for the Farsight sept. Why is GW giving me traitor Tau shit in my box.

im gonna be doing a raptor themed army but what should i kit my chaos lord with, planning on doing a raptor squad with him in it with a jump pack, any good upgrades you guys know of that would be effective?

>>50552924
Store autist painted his BB team to be Gundam so yes, I've seen worse.

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>>50554844

sure you dont, anon

sure

>>50554872

If Night Lords, I'd say the a relic lightning claws.

that's what I'm doing

>>50554886
I don't. I spend too much money on this hobby. I can't be assed to spend money on figures that'll only collect dust because I can't field them on a table.

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>>50554872
The new Black Hunt Claws look promising, if a bit expensive. I'm excited to try the Talons of the Night Terror on a Daemon Prince though.

I'm hoping against hope that these relics wont be limited to one per model.

>>50554849

It's because there is no separate box or decal sheet for Farsight armies. You can also play a pre-Damocles army when Farsight was still with the Empire. IIRC the newest Tau codex still allowed the rules to field Farsight and Shadowsun together without using the supplement.

Is a Sword Brother with two melee weapons (power fist and claw/sword)

A) Possible
B) A good idea?

Any of the new legions have something that benefits bikes?

Nurgle bikes are nothing new

>>50554955
I see.

>>50554968
I dont think its possible but I could be wrong, either way thats just too many points on a single wound model.

>>50554968
powerfist claw gives them +1 A, sword is ok. But weapons should really go onto more survivable units like HQ's.

Personally, I like seeing people go full fluff and fielding sword brothers with swords on principal alone.

>>50554968
It's possible but a bad idea.

>>50552924
Everything apart from the anime paint jobs and bobbleheads is fine.

Bright colours and multi-coloured jobs are nice to see every now and again. A good break from the Grimdark™ paint jobs and over-weathering you see on every army.
If GW had any sense they'd promote this type of tongue-in-cheek paint job for the Orks, as well as making them actually useful.

>>50554997
WE detachment being able to move 2d6" before the game begins could lead to Khorne bikers getting some nice 1st turn charges.

So that? I guess?

>>50554997

World Eaters bikes seem like they'll be good too. They will get all Khorne Berzerker rules for free, and the WE detachment lets them not-scout for a potential turn 1 charge.

>>50554997
Nurgle seemed to get the best of the legion rules. Their bikers now have fearless and FnP.

All the rules benefit every model with VotLW somehow. Night Lords for instance, get a poor man's skilled rider with permanent stealth.

>>50554968

A) Depends entirely on the phrasing in the codex.
B)Only if he can avoid getting challenged out. But you should have an Emperor's champ for just that occasion, right?

>>50554950

Nightlords daemon prince.

Not sure if that's heretical heresy or normal heresy.

Then again, there is that one Warband lead by a Prince.

>>50554968
no.

you replace your melee weapon with the power fist and you cannot replace your pistol with a melee weapon

>>50554660
What I wanna know is why Word Bearers don't have something with morale.

>>50555060

>Nurgle seemed to get the best of the legion rules
They would still be a top tier legion if they didn't get Relentless Havocs.

>>50554492
Perhaps.

My gut instinct says they might make a non-chapter specific Space Hulk to replace the current classic BA one.

>>50555018
>>50555038
>>50555024
Yeah, I'm leaning for a sword for him, both for the fluff and to vary the squad's armament, as I already have a powerfist in the squad.

>>50555076
Yeah, I was thinking of putting together a Krieg Acerbus model.

The item says claws but I'ma give him an axe anyway. The item its self seems like a daemon weapon with different drawbacks.

>>50555091

Dark Apostle gives 6" Zealot radius. But that's it lol. It's like GW didn't know what to do with Word Bearers, despite there being so many good pointers in the 30k list.

>>50555088
You can replace a CCW, bolt pistol or bolter with a melee weapon.

>>50550003
>2 meltaguns20, 1combi-meltagun10

are you even allow to do that

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>>50555096
>Relentless Havocs.

I didn't even think of that! holy shit, who keeps whoring DeathGuard at GW?

>>50555114
Zealot bubble, Better Daemon Summoning and their Relics/WL traits are all super fluffy and flavorful. I just wish their Detachment was a bit better and they got something better for morale. They should be the most morale-resistant of the legions desu. Or at least of the undivided ones.

>>50555109

I have to get wings for my clawed Prince. Somehow, I ended up with 2 right wings.

Hrm raptor troops, Winged clawed Prince, and then... Something for my other 40 HH models...

>>50555157
I'm going to run relentless havocs with Heavy Bs and Autocannons in T-son colors

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>>50547769
>>50550857

Blanche's Bolter Bitch will be resin.

>>50555165

Yeah, it should be like old-school Fantasy chaos undivided/cold-blooded: roll 3d6 and pick two for morale checks.

>>50555151

On raptors, yes.

>>50555151
Champion misses out on 1 attack for doing it but yeah, I realized that after the Raptor Talon came out.

I've been working round the clock to find three chaos combi-meltas too.

>>50555124
My most common build for Power fist ever since the days of pistol not giving extra attacks with power weapons has been. Bolter + Powerfist. Though I'm still not a fan of the power fist. Think it looks weird and how it's used in battle just seems awkward compared to a thunder hammer.

>>50555187
Probably Forgeworld resin like the other limited edition minis.

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>>50554613
Thanks anon

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>>50555196
think ur right i just looked at it again, was thinking it was instead of replacing up two with plasma pistol u can take one of the following not take two meltas. my mistake

>>50555157
>>50555183

A squad of 5 Death Guard Havocs with Heavy Bolters or Autocannons is 130 points.

Each squad is T5 FnP Fearless space marines firing either 12 S5 AP4 shots or 8 S7 AP4 shots on the move, at long range.

Is this how CSM will finally be able to BTFO cheesedar?

>>50554240
I enjoy running my Slaanesh list against my opponents Wave Serpent Eldar list.

Army-wide Fear against a foe that lacks Fearless on a lot of units is always fun.

>>50554622
>Why on earth would you put your Russ in a position like that?

Because the enemy hordes close in from all sides, and there is nowhere left to run.

So we shall go ass to ass, and die for the Emperor with all our guns blazing forward into the unclean foe.

>>50555268
Not so fast! You still have to deal with the Wraith Knight Spam!

>>50555281

Every time you kill an Eldar model you should take it and not give it back, since Slaanesh claimed that Eldar's soul.

>>50555187

It's very odd to see a new release character as resin and not plastic clamp pack. I guess it's been in the works for quite a while, huh?

>>50555334
Lol I'll try this one out.

>>50555252

All good, my group didn't believe me either.

>>50555268
And you can get autocannons so easily!

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Kalibrax-Pattern-Autocannon-Set

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Legion-Autocannon-Set-2015

Just combine them with regular CSM kits, it works fine.

>>50555331
That sounds like "Bullet magnets" to me. Although it's been a while since I played. Last core book put me off so I haven't bothered looking at getting back in.

>>50555252
Funnier than that, you can replace your chainsword for another bolt pistol for free.

You'll have two shots at 12" and still have two melee weapons.

Combi's better in this situation in my opinion.

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>>50555363
well goodluck with you night lords, im about to blow to much money on raptors

>>50555394
I think they count as twin-linked if you have 2, not an extra shot.

>>50555374

Only $16.50 USD, not bad at all.

I play Word Bearers but even then I'm tempted, this seems like a great plan for my third havoc squad even if I can only get relentless from a warlord trait.

>>50555374

I wish they had jump packs instead of full Marines.

>>50555432
Gun Slinger for rules on two pistols.

>>50555432

Gunslinger rule:
A model equipped with two pistols may fire each in the shooting phase.

That's been a thing since 6e at least.

>>50555461
>>50555453
My bad.

>>50555435
I already bought a set, and traded 5 blightkings for a SC: Chaos Space Marines.

I wanted to give the guy 10 Blightkings but he said he didn't need the extras, so good deal.

Anyone know the best way to build the Helbrute?

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>>50555444
I just bought some Kromlec Jump Packs for mine.

I'll let you guys know how they turn out when they arrive.

If one wanted to make an army of Soviet Tau, what should they do? This isn't even close, but I made this 1850 and it seems fun- idk though never played with/against tau

Hunter Cadre
>Commander- 2 TL Plasma Rifles
>6 Strike Squads
>1 Stealth Team
>2 Ghostkeels
>2 Pathfinder Teams- 3 Rail Rifles
>3 hammerhead gunships

Infiltration Cadre
>3 Pathfinder Teams- 3 Rail Rifles
>2 Stealth Teams
>Pirahna

That all comes out at 1805, is it decent? Too powerful? I'm considering switching the hammerheads for 2 broadsides each.

>>50555398

I am actually a Word Bearer player, just had a friend who used Raptors in his KDK army, and people argued since chaos doesn't get nice things.

I have to admit, I might get some just because I love their scheme. Best of luck to you though, anon

>>50555541

>If one wanted to make an army of Soviet Tau, what should they do?
Play Valhallans.

Hey is now a good time for getting back into Warhammer?

I have a few armies sitting around collecting dust and my nurse told me I need to get out of the house more often to prevent my depression getting worse.

My armies are Blood Angels, Grey Knights, and Aspect Warrior Eldar lead by Far seer.

>>50555541

>soviet tau
Remember Soviets loved their rocket artillery. Forget ghostkeels or stealth teams, use Skyrays.

>>50555584
Anytime's a good time with friends, anon. Even without, so long as the gaming scene at your local place isn't cancerous, you'll do fine.

>>50555493

I was looking at Maxmini for the MKV pattern the Night Raptors use. The Iron looks about right

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found some additional clarity on NL rules from Traitor Legions

>tfw I can combine jink plus stealth plus night fighting bonus cover for max bike surviveability hnnnnggg

>>50555584

>Aspect Warrior Eldar lead by Far seer.
Which aspects? If you say Warp Spiders you're automatically a cheesemaster running a troll build (^:

>>50555584
I also was building a Slaanesh AOS army back when I had people to play against. I was thinking of doing Chaos Demons as a possibility. Are my old 4e/5e armies still viable?

>>50555634

That's pretty sweet. They DO have their own formation! I wonder what other formations are allowed, then.

>>50555654
Umm...I had 2 units of Dire avengers. A unit of Banshee, a Unit of Scorpions, a 5 man reaper team, and a unit of fire dragons, and yes a unit of Warp spiders but they weren't that good that they could be called cheese. They died like nothing else and everyone was telling me swooping falcons were much better or Lancers.

>>50555595
I like it! Motherland, here I come!

'Emperor's Shield' Infantry Company

Company Command Squad (7) - 139pts
1 Company Commander: Senior Officer,Voice of Command,Refractor field,Shotgun,Power fist,Carapace armour
1 Astropath: Close combat weapon,Psyker (Mastery Level 1),Telepathy,Carapace armour
1 Master of Ordnance: Close combat weapon,Artillery Bombardment,Carapace armour
4 Veteran: Lasgun

Infantry Squad (10) - 50pts
1 Sergeant: Laspistol,Close combat weapon
9 Guardsman: Lasgun

Infantry Squad (10) - 50pts
1 Sergeant: Laspistol,Close combat weapon
9 Guardsman: Lasgun

Infantry Squad (10) - 50pts
1 Sergeant: Laspistol,Close combat weapon
9 Guardsman: Lasgun

Bullgryns (5) - 235pts
1 Bullgryn Bone'ead: Grenadier gauntlet and slabshield
4 Bullgryn: Grenadier gauntlet and slabshield

Leman Russ Squadron (3) - 460pts
1 Leman Russ: Vanquisher battle cannon,Heavy bolter,Heavy flamer sponsons,Recovery gear,Extra armour
2 Leman Russ: Battle cannon,Heavy bolter

Manticore (3) - 510pts
3 Manticore: Heavy bolter

I don't know what any of this does I just tried to make a list for the first time.