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Three Emperors Edition

Previous thread: >>50426830

Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ
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>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ

Desired scans :
Black Powder - Rebellion
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
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2nd of December in military history:

1804 – At Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, Napoleon Bonaparte crowns himself Emperor of the French.
1805 – War of the Third Coalition: Battle of Austerlitz: French troops under Napoleon Bonaparte decisively defeat a joint Russo-Austrian force.
1823 – Monroe Doctrine: In a State of the Union message, President James Monroe proclaims American neutrality in future European conflicts, and warns European powers not to interfere in the Americas.
1845 – Manifest Destiny: In a State of the Union message, President James K. Polk proposes that the United States should aggressively expand into the West.
1848 – Franz Josef I becomes Emperor of Austria.
1851 – French President Louis-Napoléon Bonaparte overthrows the Second Republic.
1852 – Louis-Napoléon Bonaparte becomes Emperor of the French as Napoleon III.
1859 – Militant abolitionist leader John Brown is hanged for his October 16 raid on Harpers Ferry, West Virginia.
1899 – Philippine–American War: The Battle of Tirad Pass, termed "The Filipino Thermopylae", is fought.
1917 – World War I: Russia and the Central Powers sign an armistice at Brest-Litovsk.
1920 – Following more than a month of Turkish–Armenian War, the Turkish dictated Treaty of Alexandropol is concluded.
1943 – World War II: A Luftwaffe bombing raid on the harbour of Bari, Italy, sinks numerous cargo and transport ships, including the American SS John Harvey, which is carrying a stockpile of World War I-era mustard gas.
1956 – The Granma reaches the shores of Cuba's Oriente Province. Fidel Castro, Che Guevara and 80 other members of the 26th of July Movement disembark to initiate the Cuban Revolution.
1975 – Laotian Civil War: The Pathet Lao seizes the Laotian capital of Vientiane, forces the abdication of King Sisavang Vatthana, and proclaims the Lao People's Democratic Republic.
1980 – Salvadoran Civil War: Four U.S. nuns and churchwomen are murdered by a military death squad.
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It is 211 years since the Battle of Austerlitz, also known as the Battle of the Three Emperors; one of the most important and decisive engagements of the Napoleonic Wars. Widely regarded as the greatest victory achieved by Napoleon, the Grande Armée of France defeated a larger Russian and Austrian army led by Tsar Alexander I and Holy Roman Emperor Francis II. The battle occurred near the village of Austerlitz in the Austrian Empire (modern-day Slavkov u Brna in the Czech Republic). Because of the near-perfect execution of a calibrated but dangerous plan, the battle is often seen as a tactical masterpiece of the same stature as Cannae, the celebrated triumph by Hannibal some 2,000 years before. Austerlitz brought the War of the Third Coalition to a rapid end, with the Treaty of Pressburg signed by the exhausted Austrians later in the month.

In the summer of 1805, with threats emerging from Russia and Austria, Napoleon abandoned his ambitions to invade England and turned to deal with these new adversaries.

Moving with speed and efficiency, 200,000 French troops departed their camps near Boulogne and began crossing the Rhine along a 160-mile front on September 25. Responding to the threat, Austrian General Karl Mack concentrated his army at the fortress of Ulm in Bavaria. Conducting a brilliant campaign of maneuver, Napoleon swung north and descended on the Austrian rear.

After winning a series of battles, Napoleon captured Mack and 23,000 men at Ulm on October 20. Though the victory was dampened by Nelson's triumph at Trafalgar the next day, the Ulm Campaign effectively opened the way to Vienna which fell to French forces in November.

To the northeast, a Russian field army under Kutusov had gathered and absorbed many of the remaining Austrian units. Moving towards the enemy, Napoleon sought to bring them to battle before his lines of communication were severed or Prussia entered the conflict.
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>>50511733
On December 1, the Russo-Austrian leadership met to decide their next move.

While Tsar Alexander I wished to attack the French, Austrian Emperor Francis II and Kutuzov preferred to take a more defensive approach. Under pressure from their generals, it was finally decided that an attack would be made against the French right flank which would open a path to Vienna. Moving forward, they adopted a plan devised by Austrian Chief of Staff von Weyrother which called for four columns to assault the French right.

The Allied plan played directly into Napoleon's hands. Anticipating that they would strike at his right, he thinned it to make it more alluring.

Believing that this assault would weaken the Allied center, he planned on a massive counterattack in this area to shatter their lines, while Marshal Davout's III Corps came up from Vienna to support the right. Positioning Marshal Lannes's V Corps near Santon Hill at the northern end of the line, Napoleon placed General Legrand's men at the southern end, with Marshal Soult's IV Corps in the center.

At dawn, the first Allied columns began hitting the French right near the village of Telnitz and throwing then back. Regrouping, the French effort was reinvigorated by the arrival of Davout's corps. Moving to the attack, they recaptured Telnitz, but were driven out by Allied cavalry. To the north, the next Allied column hit Sokonitz and was repulsed. Bringing in artillery, the French managed to retake the village, but soon lost it again. Fighting around Sokolnitz raged throughout the day.

Around 8:45, believing that the Allied center had been sufficiently weakened, Napoleon summoned Soult to discuss an attack on the enemy lines atop Pratzen Heights. Stating that "One sharp blow and the war is over," he ordered the assault to move forward at 9:00. Advancing through the morning fog, General Saint-Hilaire's division attacked the heights and was thrown back. Charging again, they managed to capture them.
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>>50511743
To their north, General Vandamme's division defeated Allied forces around Staré Vinohrady. Moving his command post to the heights, Napoleon ordered Marshal Bernadotte's I Corps into the battle on Vandamme's left. As the battle raged, the Allies decided to strike Vandamme's position with the Russian Imperial Guards cavalry. Storming forward, they had some success before Napoleon committed his own heavy Guards cavalry to the fray. As the horsemen battled, some of Bernadotte's men turned the tide, and with artillery support, were able to force the Russians to retreat.

At the northern end of the battlefield, fighting began as Prince Liechtenstein led Allied cavalry against General Kellermann's light cavalry. Under heavy pressure, Kellermann fell back behind Lannes' infantry who blocked the Austrian advance. After the French finished off the cavalry, Lannes moved forward against Prince Bagration's Russian infantry. After engaging in a hard fight, Lannes forced the Russians to retreat from the battlefield.

To complete the victory, Napoleon turned south and directed St. Hilaire's division and part of Davout's corps in a two-pronged attack on Sokolnitz. Enveloping the Allied position, the assault forced them to retreat. As their lines began to collapse all along the front, Allied troops started to flee the field.

Two days later, with their territory overrun and their armies destroyed, Austria made peace through the Treaty of Pressburg. In addition to territorial concessions, the Austrians were required to pay a war indemnity of 40 million francs. The remains of the Russian army withdrew east, while Napoleon's forces encamped in southern Germany. Having taken much of Germany, Napoleon abolished the Holy Roman Empire and established the Confederation of the Rhine as a buffer state. French losses at Austerlitz numbered 1,305 killed, 6,940 wounded, and 573 captured. Allied casualties included 15,000 killed and wounded, as well as 12,000 captured.
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>>50511754
The great victory was met by sheer amazement and delirium in Paris, where just days earlier the nation had been teetering on the brink of financial collapse. Napoleon wrote to Josephine, "I have beaten the Austro-Russian army commanded by the two emperors. I am a little weary....I embrace you." Tsar Alexander perhaps best summed up the harsh times for the Allies by stating, "We are babies in the hands of a giant." The Holy Roman Emperor Francis II is remembered to have said after the allied defeat in the Battle of Austerlitz: "The British are dealers of human flesh. They pay others to fight in their place." After hearing the news of Austerlitz, British Prime Minister William Pitt referred to a map of Europe, "Roll up that map; it will not be wanted these ten years."

The Battle of the Three Emperors is one of the most famous battles in military history, and an absolute must-play for the Napoleonic wargamer.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/apm4t651z0yq6cc/Brasseys+-+Napoleon's+Army.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cjb2656o3zbypiu/Osprey+-+CAM+002+-+Austerlitz+1805.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mki5svyi11inwsh/Osprey+-+ELI+101+-+Austrian+Commanders+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars+1792-1815.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0l0x17b7a9v1nv7/Osprey+-+ELI+116+-+Napoleon's+Imperial+Headquarters+%282%29+On+Campaign.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zz9kalvi8bpg5wn/Osprey+-+MAA+005+-+The+Austro-Hungarian+Army+Of+The+Napoleonic+Wars.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a6mnvr427r4dvat/Osprey+-+MAA+028+-+The+Russian+Army+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8kbbvdb63tddbpz/Osprey+-+WAR+024+-+Austrian+Grenadiers+and+Infantry+1788-1816.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rt2ja2j4cg8dca5/Osprey+-+WAR+051+-+Russian+Grenadiers+and+Infantry+1799-1815.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vk36k7n866711e4/Osprey+-+WAR+057+-+French+Napoleonic+Infantryman+1803-15.pdf
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By the end of 1943, the strategic initiative in WW2 had passed to the Allies. They feared that Hitler could use poison gas to redress the balance. While the United States condemned the use of gas, President Roosevelt pledged that the US would reply in kind if the Germans used it first. In support of this pledge, the Liberty Ship, SS John Harvey was selected to convey a shipment of mustard gas to Italy to be held in reserve.

The John Harvey was loaded with two thousand M41-A1 100 lb mustard bombs at Baltimore. It sailed for Norfolk on October 15, 1943 and then onto Oran, Algeria by convoy arriving on November 2, 1943. From Oran, it proceeded in convoy to Augusta, Sicily and then to Bari, Italy arriving on November 28, 1943.

In late November 1943, the recently liberated harbor at Bari was extremely crowded and busy. All the berths in the inner harbor were full or not ready for unloading. The John Harvey was ordered to berth at Pier 29 on the East jetty (outer mole) until there was a berth free in the inner harbor where she could unload her cargo. The East jetty was extremely crowded. The Liberty Ship SS John Motley was moored on her starboard side while the British ships Testbank and Fort Athabaska as well as the Liberty ship Joseph Wheeler were on her port side. The John Harvey was still waiting to unload on December 2. Since secrecy was paramount and few people knew of the mustard gas on board, the John Harvey was not given priority to unload its cargo of mustard bombs.

A German air raid - comprising 105 Ju88s - began on Bari began at 7:20 in the evening. The planes flew in from the east. The docks were brilliantly lit and the East jetty was packed with ships. There was no time for the ships in the harbor to get underway.
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>>50511774
During the raid the John Harvey remained intact sustaining no direct bomb damage but caught fire when showered by flaming debris from a nearby damaged ship, then without warning, blew up. All hands were killed instantly and debris thrown in the air. Gas released from the broken bombs mixed with the oil on the waters surface and with billowing clouds of smoke.

The Americans sustained the highest losses from the German raid losing five Liberty Ships. The British lost four ships, the Italians three, the Norwegians three and the Poles two. There were more than 1,000 military and merchant marine casualties with 800 admitted to local hospital. A conservative estimate places civilian casualties at around 1,000.

Casualties from the raid began pouring into the hospitals. Swamped with casualties and not realizing they were dealing with poison gas, hospital staffers let the injured remain in their oil and gas soaked clothes. Victims suffered from burns and blisters, temporary blindness, swollen genitals and irritated respiratory systems. As victims began to die, the doctors started to suspect that a chemical agent was involved.

There were 628 mustard casualties among military and merchant marine personnel with 69 dying in the first two weeks. Most victims fully recovered. There was no accounting for the civilians who must have been exposed to the chemicals. Additionally, there was a mass exodus of civilians out of the city and some were probably gas victims that died for lack of care.
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>>50511788
A member of Eisenhower's medical staff, Dr. Stewart F. Alexander, was dispatched to Bari following the raid. Alexander had trained at the Army's Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland, and was familiar with some of the effects of mustard gas. Although he was not informed of the cargo carried by the SS John Harvey, and most victims suffered atypical symptoms caused by exposure to mustard diluted in water and oil (as opposed to airborne), Alexander rapidly concluded that mustard gas was present. Although he could not get any acknowledgment from the chain of command, Alexander convinced medical staffs to treat patients for mustard gas exposure and saved many lives as a result.

From the start, Allied High Command tried to conceal the disaster, in case the Germans believed that the Allies were preparing to use chemical weapons, which might provoke them into preemptive use, but there were too many witnesses to keep the secret, and in February 1944, the U.S. Chiefs of Staff issued a statement admitting to the accident and emphasizing that the U.S. had no intention of using chemical weapons except in the case of retaliation.

General Dwight D. Eisenhower approved Dr. Alexander's report. Winston Churchill, however, ordered all British documents to be purged, listing mustard gas deaths as "burns due to enemy action".

U.S. records of the attack were declassified in 1959, but the episode remained obscure until 1967 when author Glenn B. Infield published the book Disaster at Bari. In 1986 the British government finally admitted to survivors of the Bari raid that they had been exposed to poison gas and amended their pension payments accordingly.

In 1988, Alexander received recognition from the Surgeon General of the United States Army for his actions in the aftermath of the Bari disaster.

A subsequent inquiry exonerated the Allied commander but found that the absence of previous air attacks had led to complacency.

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This month's community project is a food/drink-related mini or unit.
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Hey NEA, are you still planning to post that AAR for Naval War? Promise I won't pester you anymore, just excited to read it.
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So I always figured I would never really get much from running my video channel over on Youtube. Maybe get some swag from the occasional company to showcase a new game or such. But I have been pleasantly surprised with viewer feedback and responses. One viewer sent me a copy of "Red, White and Blue Racing" from Plaay.com sports games. (ill admit-sports game are a guilty pleasure of mine...along with ABBA), and I just recently had another viewer donate another game to me-"The Hunters" WWII sub warfare in the Atlantic and sent it off to me earlier this week.

So the roomie answered the door and got the package from fed ex. and she said "wow..this is a heavy box...." I didnt think to much about it. She sat it down next to my desk and a little while later I grabbed it and picked it up...and she was right..it was a bit heavy....and I thought to myself "Self- I didnt think The Hunters was this big a box....." Needless to say I was very surprised when I cracked the box open and not only found 'The Hunters' in there but 'Fleet Commander Nimitz' as well. Literally stunned me into quiescence for a bit.

So a huge thank you to Stuart Britton for his very kind donation to The Grognards Corner, and people should go check out his translation and editorial work he has done for east front WWII books at amazon and buy one or 2 to support him. Hes got a rather impressive library of work he has worked on.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=la_B00BMS6C4C_B00BMS6C4C_sr?rh=i%3Abooks&field-author=Stuart+Britton&sort=relevance&ie=UTF8&qid=1480717169

And I am resisting every temptation to rip into both of them right now, because I know if I do that will just distract me from starting my next video series......
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>>50513273
Jesus. Neither of those are exactly cheap games, he must have really liked your work. You gotta send him an especially nice thank you card.
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>>50513915
oh trust me I have. and both are still in shrink..which is was even more surprising to me.
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>>50512618

I am. My wife wrecked her car last week, so I've been a little distracted. Sorry for the delay.
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>>50514082
No worries, real life beats out toy boats. And don't take this wrong, but you've got some awful luck. I remember you having said something about a roof and a transmission last year. Hoping your next rolls are 12's.
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>>50514118
>And don't take this wrong, but you've got some awful luck.

Every single person who is in my gaming group and has witnessed my rolls would agree with you. It's not /hwg/-related, but I played a game of BattleTech last year in Cincinnati where I lost 6 Mechs in 5 turns...*without being shot at*.

Turn 1) Activate MASC to move onto the game board,crit both hips, fall over offboard, GM rules this kills the Dasher.
Turn 2) Activate MASC on another Mech (we were having to move through a city in a big hurry, almost every Mech we had mounted MASC). Fail, crit one hip, fall over, TAC, double-gryo. This kills the other Dasher.
Turn 3a) Run without MASC, turn a corner, skid, go into a building, fall two basement levels onto head. This kills the Summoner. We change dice.
Turn 3b) Run without MASC, turn a corner, skid, smack into a hardened building, all damage goes to head. This kills the Nova. We change dice again.
Turn 4) Activate MASC, run forward, skid, fall on center torso. The TAC from the falling damage detonates all three AC ammo binsin the torso, incidentally reducing the MechWarrior's brain to a fine crisp. This kills the Executioner. New dice are purchased at the store counter for use the following turn.
Turn 5) Jump on top of a building (CF 85) in a 75-ton Mech. Allied Mech skids, falls, and hits the building, reducing it to less than 75 CF. It collapses under me, I fall, and the damage crushes the head of my Mech. This kills the Night Gyr. Fuck everything, I shall sing the song which ends the earth.

This remains the only BattleTech game which I can recall in which - as an adult - I have set down my stuff and walked away from the table. It was simply not worth staying at that point, and I would have ruined the fun of everyone else at the table had I stuck around.

So yes. My luck is terrible.
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>>50514318
>that game

...Did you wrong a gypsy at some point?
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>>50513273
Wow that's generous. Pretty cool
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>>50514318
>running
>in cities
Yeah, skidding is always funny. MASC crits were a warning sign to slow down, yo.

I mean, at least you didn't skid into a building and die falling into the basement. It could have been worse. Or funnier. Or stupider. Or hey, all three.
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>>50513273
You got a Youtube channel? Why do i not know that?
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>>50516285
because he stopped publicising it here about a year ago or so.

Don't know why.
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I've tried looking online but I couldn't get answers so I'll ask you guys. I want a big fat tank for my Russian bolt action list, and I'm looking at the Ioseph Stalin tanks. Which is the biggest?
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>>50516569
Er, IS-2? Assuming you're sticking to WW2.
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>>50516569
Biggest is the IS-3. It wasn't used in the war besides a brief introduction against the japanese in 1945 and the victory parade in Berlin in the same year.

If that does not bother you, thats your tank.

If you want a bit more historical correct list, then there is the IS-1 and IS-2 (which has a better HE shell), or if you like a tank destroyer more: the ISU-152 or SU-152.
The heavy tank destroyers are extremely powerful thanks to their huge HE radius and are used alot in the tournament scene (at least here thats the case)

Then there is the KV-1 and KV-2, not as strong as the already mentioned ones, but they are very big as well and can be a tough nut to crack for your enemy thanks to their all-around armor.


That being said, "big fat tanks" don't win battles. Your infantry does.
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>>50516569
IS-2 was the best all round tank in the game until v2, now its just another heavy tank sadly with the advent of "everything has HE even when it didnt , woo!"
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>>50516743
It still has uses the larger template though.
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>>50516656
>Biggest is the IS-3
This is what I wanted to know thanks. I want the biggest thing I could possibly get my hands on. And it doesn't bother me that much, I don't think other will either. My friends down at the flgs plays fast and loose with Sherman and panzer versions too.
I intend to use my 60 painted Russians to pull the real weight and mostly scare people with the tank.

It's the same strategy I used in Warhammer and it worked there
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>>50516901
If your opponents and yourself are fine with it, why not.
Its an amazing looking tank.
Rules for it are in the Ostfront supplement book. If you don't have it, check the OP.
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>>50516901
>This is what I wanted to know thanks.
how were you unable to find that on the internet? Just wondering because size for tanks is on wikipedia.
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>>50516901
Its also a crazy point cost, like an entire armys worth crazy point cost in a single unit that a 5 point panzerfaust can take out
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>>50516982
It has a damage value of 12+ though. Its a beast. A 600 points expensive beast.

I'm not a fan of huge tanks myself. Biggest stuff i regularly use are Panzer 3 and sometimes (if playing against a certain player from who i know he likes strong lists) a StuH42.
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>>50516982
I was intending to use it as an IS-2 in late war games.
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>>50517254
it doesn't look like an IS2 at all.
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>>50516938
Since I didn't find a side by side model comparison
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>>50517270
It's mentioned in the soviet rule book when discussing the IS-2. And I don't think the weapon armaments varied that much
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>>50517272
because i'm having my good day.

IS-2 in BA: Heavy AT gun (with the addition of "HE" rule and also "slow reload" to counter it)
IS-3 in BA: Heavy AT gun (with "HE" but no reload penalty)

Both had 122mm in reality though, the IS-3 gun was just more advanced
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>>50517294
>And I don't think the weapon armaments varied that much
They had the same gun really, you misread what I wrote however. I said they don't look similar, especially from the front and above. The IS3 has a very distinctive glacis.
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>>50517272
>Since I didn't find a side by side model comparison
Interestingly the wikipedia article for the IS tanks opening picture is an IS2 alongside an IS3.

I know you said "model" but they are both based on the same tank so the comparison should be helpful.
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>>50516285
>>50516342

well not quite a year ago. several months maybe. Kinda felt people here wenrt enjoying them.

but yeah...The Original Grognard over on Youtube. Closing in on 100 videos now. close to 300 subscribers.
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>>50517511
Already subscribed earlier this evening.
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>>50516148
Seems like you use a Battle Tech game as a teaching tool about the dangers of running near swimming pools.
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>>50517744
Most people don't short-circuit after their armour is breached when falling in water though. Most.
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>>50517533
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>>50514318
had a buddy of mine on 2 different occasions bog every single vehicle in his sherman platoons when moving into woods when we used to play Flames of War

5 vehicles all bogging on a dice roll of 1 for each vehicle.

this has happened to him twice.
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>>50514318
>Turn 4) Activate MASC, run forward, skid, fall on center torso. The TAC from the falling damage detonates all three AC ammo binsin the torso, incidentally reducing the MechWarrior's brain to a fine crisp. This kills the Executioner. New dice are purchased at the store counter for use the following turn.

How the hell? There aren't three open spots in the CT, and Clan designs never do this to my knowledge.
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>>50518100

Apologies, I was writing in a hurry. LEFT torso, not center. There are three AC/20 bins in the left torso of an Executioner B. Fall to your left side, roll "2" for location, take an automatic critical hit check to the left torso. That pops one bin, which forces you to take one point of internal damage from the Clan CASE before the rest of the damage blows out the back, make another roll for critical damage because you took internal damage as a result of the CASE system, get two more crits in that location, pop the other two bins. Boom, done.

And it was mentioned in there that we had to cross the city very quickly. If we weren't using MASC for the first several turns to move, then we would have lost possession of the objective and the game. I wouldn't normally be throwing MASC around willy-nilly like that, but the game objectives made it necessary.

>>50517989

Damn dice. All of them.
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>>50518297
>>50517989

Tales like this make me think I should look into diceless systems.
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>>50518297
Hrm. Something about that seems odd to me still. I want to say that's not how CASE is supposed to work. But it's far too late to argue the point to a useful effect and I don't want to derail the thread, heh.
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>>50516656
>"big fat tanks" don't win battles. Your infantry does.
this. If you have to use tanks, medium spam is more points effective.
If you really want to run heavy soviet tanks, play a game that is true combined arms instead of infantry focused.

>>50517989
>5 vehicles all bogging on a dice roll of 1 for each vehicle.

>this has happened to him twice.
My friend likes to say "the dice tell a story" sometimes things go horribly wrong. The tanks could be out of fuel, could have bogged down far behind the battlefield, it could have been mines in the forest, could have been incredibly dense forest and the tankers thought they could get away with having lunch while no one was looking!
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>>50518341
Nice Czechnology
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>The ideal opportunity seemed to present itself at the end of December 1962, when surveillance showed the presence of a main force VC unit in the hamlet of Tan Thoi fourteen miles northwest of My Tho (and about forty miles southwest of Saigon). Radio intercepts seem to indicate that the VC was using Tan Thoi as some form of headquarters centre, and that a reinforced company of main force VC defended the position (i.e. about 120 men). An attack by the local ARVN formation, the 7th Division, was planned for the 2nd January 1963 by the US advisory team. Units of the 7th Division (which had the best record for action against the VC at that point) would be supported by Civil Guard battalions, together with the 4th Mechanized Rifle Squadron of the 2nd Armoured Cavalry Regiment in M113 APCs, and helicopters (both transports and the new gunships). The plan involved converging assaults on the hamlet by the 2nd Battalion of the 11th Infantry Regiment of the 7th Division landed to the north by helicopter, two Civil Guard battalions marching up from the south, while the M113s moved up along the western perimeter of the battle zone waiting to advance and trap the retreating VC. Two companies of the 1st Battalion of the 11th Infantry Regiment were held at Tan Hiep airbase as a reserve (to be moved into battle by helicopter). Batteries of 105mm howitzers and 4.2” mortars were positioned to the south to provide support fire. (The ensuing battle has become known as the Battle of Ap Bac, due to the name of the hamlet around which most of the fighting occurred. However, “Ap” is Vietnamese for “hamlet” – therefore “Ap Bac” is “Bac hamlet”)

All this to attack 120 guys? Is that normal?
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>>50519463
Well cracking a walnut with a sledgehammer was the general US/ARVN plan in Vietnam, but really each one of those Charlies was worth a dozen Arvins at this early stage of the war.

John Paul Vann was involved in this; there's a biography of him called 'Bright Shining Lie' which is a really good look at how American-South Vietnamese relations worked (or didn't work, usually), Ap Bac was what lead him to push for serious reform in the ARVN forces but he spent his career fighting a lot of laziness and corruption.
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>>50518751
I think your friend is right. As tangential note, that sort of random shit and imagining those explanations is a huge part of the fun of games and of writing batreps, at least for me.
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>>50518341
Oh i love dice.

as anon said here >>50518751
Dice tell a story. good dice rolls and bad dice rolls both toss in a random element thats needed for game to have a narrative effect. Dice keep us on our toes and prevents games from becoming formulaic exercises

we always remember the games that had the great dice rolls and we remember the games that had horrid dice rolls.
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>>50511823

What are people working on for the monthly project?
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Played a fairly large Ostfront game today down at the local club. 250 points worth of Japanese defending a beachhead, vs 375 points of US in an amphibious landing force.

It was very messy, with over 800 US casualties in about 10 minutes... ended up in a draw: US were able to get a foothold on the left flank of the beach, but weren't able to clear the entire beachhad of Japanese forces. Very fun and nicely balanced game, full of uncertainty and heroism under heavy fire.

Pic is one of the stage photos we did after - its much cleaner. The actual battle had 9 higgins boats and we only have 2 miniatures so had paper slips everywhere, half tracks standing in for LVT buffalos, Brits standing in for US (I had something like 18 bases of regulars and 8 bases of assault infantry) and 7 or 8 shermans, including a few sherman 105mms, and air support. Pretty epic game - it was the "Fire in the Water" scenario from the Japanese army list.

Other games being played: Blücher (massive battle of Eckmühl that seemed to go forever), dystopian wars, SW armada, Conan the barbarian (some miniature game with interesting activation system and a boarding scenario between 2 boats), a Marvel superheroes game, and two 40K tables with a few games one after the other on each.
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>>50522263
I haven't even started, I've been swamped. Not even sure what I can do.
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>>50522263
A diorama where my Russians are preparing soup from the blown out turret of a T-34.
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>>50522263
I don't have anything really food-related. I have a few germans with boxes from an artillery crew. I'll pretend one of these boxes if full of food.
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So the Pike & Shot Society just released a new edition of Twilight of the Sun King, a horse & musket ruleset I've never played but which looks to have some neat ideas. There's the book, and a scenario book, with more of the latter to come. Available at http://www.pikeandshotsociety.org/

But I'm posting because http://balagan.info/twilight-of-the-sun-king-2001-version is the original version that was later turned into a printed edition that eventually evolved into the new one. Maybe people'll find it interesting! I like the way it handles firing.

I might pick the new edition up after Christmas. Apparently people've used it for SYW gaming too.
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Bumpenzi
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>>50524930
Oh man, that sounds fun.
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Who's your favorite Napoleonic Marshal?

For the most part I'm a Massena man. Dude had style, a real swagger and skill that made him stand out from his peers. He'd already had a colorful life before he took the baton, and afterwards it was even crazier. During his Fat Elvis years in Spain his talents declined, but you gotta love the whole "disguise your mistress as your ADC" thing. It is intriguing to consider what would have happened if he had served in Russia or at Waterloo. Overall his whole life would make a great campaign on its own.

But my better nature tends towards Eugène. He was intensely brave, and is one of the very few Marshals to be devoid of scandal or controversy. Napoleon respected him immensely; even after his relationship with Eugène's mother Josephine had ended, he still considered him a son. Eugène's rule of Italy and later Bavaria was benign and he was popular in both cases. In action he was somewhat tardy, but performed satisfactorily in 1809. When Napoleon left the Grand Armee in 1812 to return to Spain he handed command over to Murat, who promptly abandoned ot to return to Naples. This left Eugène in charge, and together with Davout and Ney he brought the survivors home. He sat out the remainder of the wars at the request of his father-in-law the King of Bavaria, and sadly died relatively young.
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>>50527334
Bernadotte
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>>50526510
Hopefully it will be. The only major issue is that I need to buy some water and I've never used it before so I'm afraid it'll look bad
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>>50527651
Mmmm, Swedish princesses descended from a man with a 'DEATH TO KINGS' tattoo
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Is there anything I could use as a reasonable stand in for a 1/2 ton truck in a USMC list for bolt action?

I want to pick one up for a tournament but the warlord one is made to order so it might not turn up in time.
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>>50528254

Oops, that should be a 3/4 ton, a big jeep/beep.
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>>50528254
Rubicon does make US trucks and so does Tamiya.
Probably there are some diecast trucks in a roughly fitting scale too.
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>>50527896
Well I'm glad to tell you that's a myth.
He was an honourable man and a good tactician. He was the only one of Napoleons marshals who treated their thrones with the proper dignity they deserved. Except maybe for Eugene whom I have a gigantic sweet spot.
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>>50529828
I wouldn't call the throne of a nation that had during previous 100 years managed to lost half of its former territory particularly worthy of respect.
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Working on some 1/3000 WW2 naval minis from Skytrex (their Davco range).
No pics yet since they're not yet done and it's too dark for them here anyway, but here's an initial review.
I got a mix of USN/IJN cruisers and destroyers, plus a Perth-class CL and Shoho-class CVE, for a Coral Sea theme.

Model detail seems decent for the scale, with the guns (including AA mounts) that need to be there properly present etc.
No real deck detail, but that would be nigh invisible at this scale anyway.

Unfortunately, there are some issues with the casting quality; there is a LOT of flash/mold lines and some of the lower hulls have some serious misalignment problems that required a fair bit of filing.
Additionally, there are some casting flaws on a few surfaces and some gun barrel ends didn't turn out right, requiring more fixing.

However, then we get to the pricing: 2 pounds for a battleship/fleet carrier, 1,5 pounds for a cruiser or pair of destroyers.
For that pricing, I'm willing to forgive some flaws, especially should it turn out I got a bad batch.
Once I'm done with this, I'll probably end up buying some more stuff to get a couple of simple fleets, probably for use with Naval War.
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>>50529828
Bernadotte was not a good marshal, perhaps adequate during most campaigns but his conduct in several major battles is questionable.

Eugene was never a marshal.
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>>50531125
>but his conduct in several major battles is questionable.

>get handed shit troops
>they run away
>big surprise
>conquer unassailable fortress in hours rather than months as a sorry note to Napoleon

Yeah, adequate
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Lads, it's returning.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=G3Xs9uuAUd8
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>>50533176
Oh fuck I'm excited.
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>>50533176
Sweet!
>0:10
>dangerous moment

Wait is that the historian from the old series? The animated jewish guy who got all excited and his hands went all over the place?
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>>50531125
>Eugene was never a marshal.

Well blow me down, no he wasn't, and all this time I just assumed he was. I guess he never really did anything worthy of the baton like the other guys. Ah well, Viceroy of Italy is not a bad compensation.
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Huh, turns out Dec 4th is the feast day of St Barbara, the patron saint of Artillerymen.

All you anons in timezones where it's not the 5th yet better sound your guns in tribute.
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>>50533176
Lets, fucking , go
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>>50530048
Nice! Is the Davco stuff metal or resin? I never really looked much at 1/3000 stuff since it's more of a UK scale. Be interested in seeing pics when they are done, for sure.
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>>50533176

Holy shit is this literally the jewish sandhurst guy from the original series after a sex-change
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>>50537299

Holy fucking shit it is, Lynette Nusbacher jfc
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>>50522263
Doesn't it tick over soon? I've been so busy I'll have to go on the next one I think.

Seriously considering picking up a few frigates from Langton for some age of sail action. Need to work out a few lists.
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Managed to grab the old D-Day Firefight box yesterday - what small scale skirmish games you could recommend? I'm aware of Five Men in Normandy, but open to suggestions. 5-10 men, maybe a light vehicle of some sorts.
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>>50533176
O hoho.
Jewish guy is back disguised as woman
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>>50540321
Battlegroup and I aint been shot mum would easily handle it, also NUTS! and perhaps combat patrol.
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>>50540475
I want to play Battlegroup on platoon scale and in 1:72, but thanks for the other recommendations, I'll check those out.
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>>50534387
>>50537299
>>50537350
>>50540418
I know! I couldnt believe it. Fair play to her though, as long as shes as animated as before
>now the CAVALRY would create a SPEAAAARHEAD and PUNCH right through the enemy DRIIIIIIIIIIIVING a wedge through them
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>>50541524
kek that looks like a hunter killer missile on the turret. Is that a spotlight or is it the very early infrared the nazis developed??
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>>50541973
It could be a Nachtjäger (n.b. Nachtjäger means "Night Hunter" in German)
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>>50533176
Are there any chances they would do some more modern stuff, using Wargames or MoW?
Or its still Total War exclusive
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>>50541973
Its an infrared scope.

>>50541982
Its trivial name was "Sperber", not Nachtjäger. Official name was F.G. 1250

Nachtjäger was the name of the fighter planes with special night fighting equippment of the Luftwaffe
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>>50541973
Its an infrared scope.

Spooky nazi science and all that.
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>>50541982
>>50542022
>>50542030
thanks gents
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So, dead magazine Classic Wargamer's Journal from a few years back. Did anyone ever get read it? IIRC there was a PDF version - anyone got copies?
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>>50541982
someone used to hang out in the FoW general threads
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Finished reading [image related]. This was definitely one of those rare cases of an affordable analytical bit of military history. The author bothered to actually ask questions answers are usually just presumed, and gathered a hell of a lot of interesting data and conclusions along the way. The focus is almost entirely on the 15th and 16th centuries in western Europe, but does actually go over into the 17th century a bit for the sake of contrast.

A lot of good information about how cannon for a while lead to a greater emphasis on pitched battles as fortification hadn't caught up, how the wheel-lock pistol brought a sudden death of super-heavy cavalry that had still persisted well into the 1500s, the early mixes of gunpowder, corning of powder with it's development and problems, how German cities were acquiring smallarms in large numbers for wall defence whilst an effective battlefield role for the same weapons was proving incredibly elusive... Basically there's one hell of a lot of good shit in here. Very highly recommended if you have interest in warfare in the aforementioned time/localities.
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>>50544152
...would help if I actually attached the appropriate image.

Weapons and Warfare in Renaissance Europe: Gunpowder, Technology, and Tactics by Bert Hall.
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>>50533176
It's still weird to me that they got the masterchef bloke to present it but HYPE nontheless
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>>50544305
Well it's probably him or Dara O'Brien and they can't use him on everything remotely nerdy (Robot Wars is confirmed to be getting a 2nd season btw, now if only we can get scrapheap challenge back...).
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>>50544305
yeah I dont like his style
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>>50544405
Dan Snow could've been interesting, he was the BBC's historical stuff poster boy for the longest time.

Who remembers Battlefield Britain here?
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>>50544440
I do. The Snows made a great team on that.

Not them but The Weapons that made Britain is another really good set of documentaries from that era. I recently found that Mike Loades' website (reminded he exists by Time Commander, wanted to see if he'd done anything else, turns out he's written a bunch of books) actually kinda brags about how many times the pirated versions of it up on youtube have been watched.
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>>50544440
Do I?
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About to start a German Winter Army for Bolt Action.

First model done.
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>>50544622

Can't tell if its painted or bare metal honestly, don't know why, also that weathering looks amazing mate.
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>>50544622
Looks like it's been through a right shitfest, nice.
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>>50544622
It looks like shit.

So its perfect, nice job m8
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I'm looking into getting some ultramoderns for Black Ops, are the Project Z Specops dudes good value for money? I don't really need them to represent a specific unit or anything.
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>>50544885
They are rather expensive, but yeah. I'd grab some Spectre or Empress metals tho as they'd probably be cheaper than fukken plastics.
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>>50544885
They're ok models, if you want great ones though check out Empress (any of the moderns ranges) or Hasslefree's Modern Troopers range.
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>>50544885
They are ok. (there was a deal with a lot of them and tons of terrain for a good price actually) but kinda pricey compared to other Warlord minis.

They come with lots of weapon and head options though. And they are the only modern time plastics.. so if you don't like metal, there's that.

On a sidenote, the large weapon variety might be a negative point if you want to make "real" units because i don't think there are enough weapons from one country for all the men.
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>>50545106
If you want your dudes to be armed with M4s or AKs, then you get enough. Bit less SA80s, and some random Chinese stuff...the box is really not focues and lacks some pretty obvious weapons like an M249 or any kind of sniper rifle. And only one sprue per box...bloody ripoff.
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>>50544925
Fair point, fair point.

Huh...looking at the Empress miniatures, I could put some of those Russian balaclava heads on US ranger bodies, then mount some Spectre Quadeyes on the NVG mounts and have passable G22 operatives.

>>50545003
On the other hand, Hasselfree's dudes are pretty good and it would be cool to have SG-1.

>>50545106
I do have some of the survivors so I can do weapons swaps if need be. But I'm not too attached to representing any specific unit.
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>>50545144
Yeah, if they had included 2 sprues for the price of 15 pounds then it would be a no-brainer. But only 8 guys.. nah. Tons of different weapons, but it really wouldn't have hurt to include a couple more "special weapons" instead of literally 25 assault rifles and smgs.

I might pick a box up if they send me another of these 10 pound coupons though.
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Attention "D. Reinhardt in Newmarket"

Your /hwg/ Secret Santa gift is on the way. Delivery in 7-14 days. I had to ship directly from Noble Knight Games to your address, because if I took the time to have it shipped to me in the US, repackaged it, and shipped it back to you, it would either get there at the end of January**, or it'd cost me $120 in shipping to get it to you by Christmas. I sincerely apologize for not getting the opportunity to personalize it. So if you see a Noble Knight package turn up in a week-ish, that's your Secret Santa gift. Merry Christmas and happy gaming.

>**this is not a joke. As of last Thursday, our local post has <130> trucks literally lining the streets and waiting to be unloaded. My new phone sat on the truck for 11 days (I could see it had arrived here, but hadn't been scanned in via the tracking number until 11 days had passed) before I could go pick it up.
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Warhammer - Historical Battles - Vlad the Impaler.pdf
http://www62.zippyshare.com/v/ZBU1hdEH/file.html
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>>50545149 here, is
>I could put some of those Russian balaclava heads on US ranger bodies, then mount some Spectre Quadeyes on the NVG mounts and have passable G22 operatives.

A viable thing? I figure that the Russian heads will fit on the Ranger bodies (they're by the same company, after all), but the Spectre NVGs are a bit of an unknown quantity.
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>>50535852
It's metal, will post pics once they're done.
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Anyone know anything about gripping beasts SWORDPOINT?
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So picked up "Battleship Row", the rulebook seems solid but jesus some of the units are wonky. Shinano having more aircraft than an Essex, Casablancas having Dive and Torpedo Bombers, Ise having the full turret compliment despite being in it's "latest configuration".

Not sure I really want to play it to be honest. It seems fun but jesus I thought Victory at Sea was a bit wonky with stats.
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>>50550691
That would probably be the first time that Shinano has benefited from Yamato-wank.
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>>50550771
The Yamato is also has better cannons and armor than the Iowa, so the Yamato wank does happen in its pure form too (though at least the AA and FDC are better on Iowa.)

But I think for some reason Shinano gets the stowed planes it was incapable of launching, which is pretty silly.
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>>50545202
>>50545106
>>50544925

WLG decided to really price-gouge the WGF plastics that they repackaged as Project Z. Disappointing signs of proto-GW-ery
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>>50551940
>WLG decided


They don't pull these prices out of their ass. Thats not how that deal worked. WGF still gets their share. Not the company itself was bought, just the distribution rights for most of their products. So its natural that they can't sell the stuff for the same price as before since now there are 2 companies who want their share.
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>>50552049

Well WGF has been a gigantic clusterfuck from day one so I guess that actually makes plenty of sense
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I don't suppose anybody has any idea if the WWII German Infantry box from Wargames Factory will work for building an Afrika Korps platoon? I'm not completely sure of the equipment differentials between the early war Germans and the late war Germans (aside from mainly using the Mausers in the box aside from mainly the MP40s, obviously).
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>>50551030
>The Yamato is also has better cannons and armor than the Iowa

Isn't this accurate, though? Yamato has bigger, badder guns and heavier armor but Iowa is faster and has far superior fire control?
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>>50545746
Cheers for the upload. Can someone please put it somewhere less toxic than Zippy? All I get are virus warnings all over the page and no way to download the file! :-)
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Looking for pdfs of:
Napoleon's Battles (pref 4th edn)
Napoleon at War
L'Art De La Guerre
General de Brigade 3rd Edn (Blue)
General de Brigade Scenario books
British Grenadier (2nd edn)
British Grenadier Scenario books.

Let me know what you need and I will upload if I have it (not on Zippy though - too nasty a site!)
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>>50555052
Oh - and Warhammer Age of Arthur!
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>>50554898
I'll add it to the other WHB files in the Mediafire tonight. Pretty sure some was actually looking for this title a while back - was it Gropey? - they were building a Wallachian army.
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>>50555501
Many thanks! Anything you are looking for - happy to add if I have it.
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>>50554157

Speaking of Bolt Action Germans, I have a question regarding German list-building in that game.

German squads tended to have 2 LMGs in the squad. Looking at the transcript of the official 21st Panzer Division KTsN, you can see that (link: http://www.cgsc.edu/CARL/nafziger/942GFGU.pdf ; reference page 4, "3 (mot) Infantry Companies (Afrika)", platoon entry).

In Bolt Action, Heer Infantry Squads (or even Veteran Heer Infantry Squads) can take only a single LMG per squad-equivalent unit. Does anyone have a good way around that? Since a nominal squad was 10 men, and the infantry platoons of the 104 Schutzen Rgt (21st Panzer) had only 2 squads, I was considering taking FOUR 5-man squads in Bolt Action - essentially breaking the squad up into fire teams. Only 2 of the squads get an NCO with an SMG (representing the actual squad leader), but all 4 get their LMG. So instead of

>NCO w/SMG
>x7 Riflemen
>LMG+Loader
>TOTAL: 10 men

I get:

>NCO w/SMG
>2 Riflemen
>LMG+Loader
+
>1 "NCO" with Rifle
>2 Riflemen
>LMG+Loader
>TOTAL: 10 men

I do this twice, and I get the 20 men necessary for the platoon, with the appropriate equipment. Would that be seen as min-maxing and/or would that be a good way to get around the equipment restriction that currently forces me to be ahistorical with my list?
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>>50556354
Many of the lists allow a 2nd LMG in a squad. Are you using an online list builder such as Easy Army? http://www.easyarmy.com
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>>50556743

I'm looking at the rules PDF. An Afrika Corps list can choose from Heer Infantry, Heer Veteran Infantry, Fallschrimjaeger, and motorcycle troops for their core infantry choices. Obviously the two types of Heer Infantry are the correct choices for foot infantry transported by truck.

If you'll look at the attached unit entries from the book, putting 2 LMGs into a squad is...difficult...given they're limited to 1/squad.
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>>50552182
HOSTILE CHINESE TAKEOVER

REIDY DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>50556994
If you're looking for historically accurate lists, you probably should be playing something other than Bolt Action, I'm afraid.
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As a total newcomer, what's the differences between the different tabletop systems? For example, how is Bolt Action different from Flames of War?
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>>50557768

There's an absolutely tremendous number of historical wargaming systems. They commonly range in scale from 3mm to 30mm, and range in size from squad-sized skirmish games to divisional-scale operational engagements. Your question is FAR to broad to be answered.

However, it's a good rule of thumb that, "if it's a popular game, it's bad." Flames of War and Bolt Action are very popular, but they have sacrificed so much historical accuracy to become so (for example, look at >>50556354 and >>50556994) that they have effectively become so "game-able" that they no longer have any relation to REAL historical wargames.

Best case, they're an entry-level drug for your group to get into better wargames.

And, for reference, Bolt Acton is a skirmish-scale game (each guy = 1 guy) of roughly platoon scale. So you'll generally have 20-40 guys on the table, plus some support units like mortars or semi-fixed machineguns. Flames of War is a company-scale game (each base = 1 squad of ~10 guys) where you'll usually have a half-dozen vehicles, a couple platoons of infantry, 1-2 artillery bases, and some support units. Bolt Action is 28mm scale (vees are either 1/48th or 1/56th scale). Flames of War is 15mm scale (or 1/100th for vees).
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>>50557839
>However, it's a good rule of thumb that, "if it's a popular game, it's bad."
If you're looking for 100% accuracy, yes. But not every game needs to be Campaign for North Africa. I mean, holy shit, German squads have one less machinegun than they did historically? That's not exactly a dealbreaker for most people. At least pick something like Hen & Chicks that is genuinely bullshit.
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>>50557839
>"if it's a popular game, it's bad."
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>>50557839
>However, it's a good rule of thumb that, "if it's a popular game, it's bad."
I admit, I chuckled. Well played!
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>>50555573
Here we are

http://www.mediafire.com/file/aq2hxdz203bq08g/Warhammer+Historical+-+Vlad+the+Impaler.pdf

Friendly reminder to check out the Vlad Tepes movie sometime. You can't deny that the guy knew how to make a point!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqbagKqtbAQ

>Anything you are looking for - happy to add if I have it.

My eternal grail quest is tracking down old hex-and-counter wargames. I'm pretty proud of what I've managed to cobble together over the years, from a variety of sources. But like some endangered species they just keep getting harder to find. I pray there is a place in hell for people who upload the rulebooks without the counters and maps.
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And remember, chillern, if it's a poorly-designed game, it's historically accurate.
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>>50557870
>Hen & Chicks that is genuinely bullshit
Soviets really were awful at the start of the war. I'm ok with hen and chicks provided its just for early war, but I'm guessing thats not the case?

Problem is playing historically accurate soviets during Barbarossa probably wouldn't be that fun. They were very poorly trained. Gotta have a balance of fun and accuracy.
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>>50558995
According to Phil (FoW), the Soviets were never better than the Americans first shitty time in Africa, the whole way through the war. As for the hen & chicks, well yeah, radios were a bit sparse for a while, but BF just keeps making H&C worse with each edition.
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I'm just glad FoW doesn't have 1945 soviets rolling into Berlin with one man having the rifle and the other having the ammo.

What I'm saying is it's really shit at history. Not turbo-wehraboo, but pretty bad.
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>>50554157
The Afrika corps units wore different uniforms. With that box you have none of that. No shorts. No short sleeves, no desert boots/helmets.

If you specifically want Afrika Korps, then there is only Perry with their Plastic box. (or you go for metal minis).

For some kind of mid-war german unit the Wargames Factory box is pretty good value for its price (especially now during their sale). Some poses (in particular one of the kneeling guys) are really awkward, but besides that its solid.
It only comes with MG-42s and has no Stg-44 in it though.. but a scoped G43 which is what Warlords Plastic boxes are lacking.
There are also a couple K98 rifles with rifle grenade.
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>>50556354
The answer is Grenadiers.
Just use their list entry to build your historical correct 2-lmg-squads. (Not all of them had 2 lmgs btw, as your source also states).

I wouldn't recommend 5 men groups because they are too squishy.

>>50556994
Ignore the theatre selector. These are a nice idea, but in the end they are far from historically correct.

Your generic platoon list with only Afrika-suitable units in it will be just as historically correct than a pure theater list. (If you build it in a correct way of course).
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>>50557839

>/hwg/ - "if it's a popular game, it's bad."

Request that this be added to OP in future threads.
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>>50559829
I want to argue the point, but I don't think I actually can. HWG-related, there's FoW and BA, both of which are really the only "popular" rulesets, and they're both bad (look at all the flak BA gets around here). Generally-speaking, the popular wargaming rulesets are 40K, Infinity, Warmahordes, AoS, Malifaux, and Battletech, pretty much in that order. All of those are also bad games, albeit for different reasons.

Thus, as meme-tastic as the statement is, it's also pretty much true.
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>>50560167
>and they're both bad (look at all the flak BA gets around here).

That is hardly an argument Anon.
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>>50560179

If it was good, it wouldn't get shit upon. QED.
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>>50559695

Thank you. I grabbed the WGF box primarily because it was on sale for $7 over the weekend. I've been meaning to get into Bolt Action; my mate plays Desert Rats and I was hoping it would give me a reasonable OPFOR.
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>>50560194
I've been on the internet long enough to know that that's not true.
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>>50560194
Everything gets shit upon in here, even "good" games like Lion Rampart.

There will always be someone who dislikes a certain mechanic of a game or simply the fact that its popular.

I agree that popularity alone isn't always a guarantee for a good game, but its certainly not a terrible game either. And in most cases its better to play a mediocre game than to not play a great game because there are no players for it.
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>>50560167
General consensus on BA is that it has its problems, but those problems mostly come from min-maxing players, otherwise it's fun.

>>50560194
>>50560219
It's popular, thus it can reach much more people - and most people played it, the more don't like it on a strictly statistical basis.
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>>50560215

If you aren't bothered with historical correctness to much you can still paint their uniforms khaki and field them as AK.
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>>50560236
>but those problems mostly come from min-maxing players, otherwise it's fun.

And that special kind of players will take the fun out of every game for people who want play in a historical or "fluff" (in 40k for example) way.
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>>50557839
Nice Begging the Question right there anon, but something isn't bad because it's popular. It's bad because of other issues. Nor is a large number of people disliking something proof it is 'bad' - which is a fallacy of majority belief.
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>>50560257
Tourneyfags are much worse than historifags.
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>>50560236
>those problems mostly come from min-maxing players
most of the problems I've seen are strange rules, and lack of historical accuracy. Its "WW2" written by ex GW designers with minimal knowledge on the subject. much closer to 40K than an accurate representation of WW2 squad warfare.

Games can still be accurate, fun and simple to play. It's all down to the design. BA seems to tick the fun box for some, but I dont think the other 2 facets are that well covered by it.
FoW on the other hand tries to go for accuracy, but often sacrifices fun and simplicity.
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>>50560331
>Games can still be accurate, fun and simple to play.

OK, not that I disagree with your general intent, but what the hell ticks all three of these boxes?

>FoW on the other hand tries to go for accuracy, but often sacrifices fun and simplicity.

It sacrifices accuracy as well. ANY game which rewards you for building completely un-historical lists in order to more efficiently win the game is going to be inaccurate at its core.
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>>50560331
>FoW on the other hand tries to go for accuracy
If it does, then it fails miserably. Tank parking lots, tank parking lots everywhere.
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>>50560331
>much closer to 40K than

I have to ask how long ago it was when you played 40k the last time.. 12 years ago?

Bolt Action has (besides it uses points for army lists and other general things like you have to roll dice) literally nothing in common with the current 40k.
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>>50560352
>how long ago it was when you played 40k the last time.. 12 years ago?
thats probably pretty close, 2006-8 ish

>>50560349
>but what the hell ticks all three of these boxes?
Ostfront? Lional Tarr's WW2 rules? perhaps games like Battlegroup or I aint been shot mum?

>>50560351
I agree FoW isn't 100% accurate (no game is), the tank parking lot thing is mostly a scale issue inherent with many company level WW2 games - at smaller scales like 6mm it might be less of a problem.
WW2 is a tough period to play accurately, in the end you have to realize you have a limited table size and either go real small with miniatures, or accept a level of abstraction between what you see on the table and what it represents in real like - including the size of the tanks and the distance between them.
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>>50514318

Tell me, have you built your home upon any ancient indian burial grounds lately?
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>>50560430
>in the end you have to realize you have a limited table size and either go real small with miniatures, or accept a level of abstraction between what you see on the table and what it represents in real like - including the size of the tanks and the distance between them.
Use the correct scale for a correct game size and don't try to play company level with 28mm.
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>>50560430
Granted then, because current 40k has changed alot (to the worse). 3rd edition 40k has been a good ruleset. (at least thats my opinion and thats why i don't think the whole "BA is just like 40k" works.. it feels a bit like 40k when 40k was great)
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>>50560447
Or do, if you want a toy soldier look, but apply sane ground scales and figure ratios.

There's nothing wrong with a handful of dudes or an anti-tank gun on a 60mm base representing an infantry or weapons platoon respectively, as long as your game's planned around it.
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>>50560447
>don't try to play company level with 28mm.
dont worry I dont. The issue was with FoW - 15mm scale.

Issue with WW2 is with a 6' by 4' table you pretty much have to go 6mm to get an accurate looking company level game. Thankfully most of us wargamers accept a level of abstraction - they are games after all - and so can look past tanks being slightly closer than they should have been in real life, and thereby use any scale we like, provided we're happy with it.
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>>50560496
>as long as your game's planned around it.
Yeah, but FoW isn't.

>>50560498
"slightly" closer means the equivalent of 10cm away from each other?
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>>50560430
2006, wew, so why do you think your input is valid or helpful?
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>>50514318
Read this post
This is playing in my head.
https://youtu.be/ZnHmskwqCCQ
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>>50554231

Not really no.
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>>50557870
>Hen & Chicks
Is that a rule in BA?
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15% off at Warlord games.

Code is valid until the 19th. Dec

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>>50560828
nah BA never has enough tanks for hen & chicks to be a thing.
Essentially all the tanks in a platoon have to follow the lead tank (or at least from what I've gleaned of the rule)
Comes from a German description of T-34s in action:

"T-34s operated in a disorganised fashion with little coordination, or else tended to clump together like a hen with its chicks. Individual tank commanders lacked situational awareness due to the poor provision of vision devices and preoccupation with gunnery duties. A tank platoon would seldom be capable of engaging three separate targets, but would tend to focus on a single target selected by the platoon leader. As a result T-34 platoons lost the greater firepower of three independently operating tanks."

Note that he specifies they act 2 different ways, not just hen and chicks, but in a "disorganised" style as well. FoW is only representing one half of the story, and even then only in really in early war. By 1943 and 1944 most soviet tanks had radios and crews were getting more competent, as well as better commander cupolas.
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Uploading (few + Vlad and Arthur ) Warhammer - Historical Battles https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
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>>50561082
Thanks for your continuous effort!
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>>50554231
Yamato had larger caliber guns, and on paper had heavier armor, yes. But the armor scheme, particularly the torpedo belt had some flaws in it that made it extremely vulnerable at the waterline. The guns themselves didn't have anything other than optical fire directors, which doesn't do much good when you can in theory fling shells over the horizon. Spotting aircraft can help for shore bombardments certainly, but I don't know how much good they would be in a ship to ship engagement at long range. I feel like I've read that there were other problems associated with the guns, but I'm having problems finding specifics at the moment.
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>>50560850
all products?
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>>50561510
Apparently so.
>Applies to Warlord Games products only. UK webstore only.

(So not the Perry or Frostgrave stuff they sell)
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>>50561401
Nip shells also were inferior in quality to their American counterparts (mostly because instead of improving their shells overall performance they opted to go for gimmicky and at best misguided underwater explosion focused approach).
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>>50561544
cheers pal might check the judge dredd stuff. That sold FAST during black friday
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I just came across something cool and felt like shilling it, for game designers and grogs alike.

http://boardgamegeekstore.com/products/rattlebones-prototyping-dice

BoardGameGeek want $6 for a trio of dice with replaceable sides. They're meant for prototyping, but usable for a bunch of things, including custom dice for those wargames that use them. The sides apparently work with wet-erase markers & crayons, you get three of each colour. You could also buy the game they're from (Rattlebones) but it's only got 12 dice and probably costs more than $24. Unless it doesn't, you might have a cheap source, I don't know.

So, yeah, if you ever wanted to come up with custom variants on Commands & Colours dice or some of the dungeon crawlers I've seen that use custom dice, here's a convenient way to make them that won't look like shit. Three colours of die too, so you can have different dice for different purposes and they should stand out clearly.
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Hello gang!
You'll be seeing me quite frequently from now on. I'd like to skip the whole lurking phase since it's such a hassel. Could you summarize all the do's and dont's of this general as well as all the memes please?

Tata!
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>>50562760
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>>50562760
>dont's
don't be a dick to other anons
>memes
people doing fights
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>>50545746
>>50555501
>>50558663
Fuck yes! Glad I browsed the thread. Thanks fellas!
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>>50561645
>"If it wasn’t for the Nips
Being so good at building ships
The yards would still be open on the Clyde"
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>>50560268
>Using "begging the question" correctly.

Thank you anon
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>>50560167
This depends a little on how you define popular. There are plenty of popular rulesets out there, but if you define them against games like fow or 40k or BA then you will come to the conclusion there aren't.

For example Blucher is popular (I attended a 16 player 1 day tournament at the weekend* hosted in the relatively small town of Farnborough, Hampshire might be good for wargaming but that 16 players are willing to attend a tournament is a pretty good number that most hwgs would be VERY happy with). There are plenty of "popular" games, but unlike fow/BA/40k hwg players (who in my experience tend to play only the 1 or 2 games) tend to play several different rules and/or periods which dilutes the perceived popularity.
*Unlike the previous ones where I've made a write up I haven't for this one. My camera ran out of battery around turn 2 of game one.
Needless to say I finished midtable. Got stomped 3-27 by the Russian play who won it all in round 1, the same Russian player who won it last competition. Russians placed 1st and 2nd, both with over 70 points total, 3rd place came in at 52. Everyone has agreed that at 200 points Russia is overpowered and something will be changed for next time.
I won both my other games 19-11, first against French and then against British. Might have had a shot at making the top 3 had I not run into one of those infernal Russian players."
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>>50511710
Hey do you guys know if saga is worth playing?
I'm planning on picking up a box of either Normans or Vikings.
Also really like how the models look
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>>50565163
There are some Saga players that post here. NEA at least will probably chime in later. As a non-player, it at least looks pretty neat.
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>>50565187
Thanks I'll probably stick around till one of them show up
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>>50565264
Short version, since I'm tired as shit: it's fun and surprisingly quick. Well worth it.
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>>50565312
But anon, it's popular.
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>>50565312
Nice I'll pick up some rules too then
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>>50565187

A lot of this: >>50565312

Fun, quick-playing, and very inexpensive to get into.

A side bonus is that it's highly replayable. What I mean by that is that in many games, once you have constructed an army to do a "thing", all your games are going to feel "same-y" to a certain degree. Largely, your games are going to be won (or at least be competitive) if you are able to pull off your "thing", and you are likely to lose if you can't pull off your "thing".

>"Pull off your thing" gets funnier to say in my head the more I type it.

In SAGA, though, your tactics are dictated largely by what your dice give you. That is, each time you roll your SAGA dice, the options available to you on your battleboard will change, and you have to find a way to apply your available options to the game state in that moment. In that manner, then, your army can play totally differently in two different games, and you can never be sure of being able to pull off your "thing" when you really need to. I also feel that the incredibly simplistic "levy, Warrior, Hearthguard" army composition system is a point in the game's favor, since it further emphasizes the lack of importance on list-building. Yes, there's a few factions that demand more thought on your list (Angry-Saxons need tons of warriors in groups of ~10-12, for example), but by and large, if you have a 1-2 points of Levy models, 4 points of warrior models, and 2-3 points of Hearthguard models available to you, you'll have a workable force in practically any 6-pt game.

>>50565330

No it's not. Not around here, at any rate. Nothing but 40K, Warmahordes, and Infinity has any real traction in a 75-mile radius around Cincinnati, and historicals may as well not be played at all. (Well, and Cincy BattleTech; 20-person BT groups aren't exactly a common thing)
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>>50565163
>is worth playing?

Thats a strange thing to define.. do people in your area play it? Would it be fun to play with them? Then its certainly worth it. The game is fun, has some interesting mechanics and has alot of different factions which gives you alot of options on how and what to play.
To get a Warband for either of the two you don't need much, maybe 2 boxes of plastic minis so if you enjoy the models, just go for it. Even if you should find out that you hate the game and its mechanics you'll still have a couple of nice minis on your shelf.

Just keep in mind that it is very game-y. Its not a hardcore wargame at all. But its alot of fun.
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>>50566052
>Are there people who play it in your area?
The FLGS near me wants to try it and basically me and another dude who works there are gonna test it out to see if it's worth playing and more importantly worth selling. I also really like history so it's a win win for me
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>>50557839
Then what qualifies as 'better wargames'?
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>>50561401
>>50561645
Huh, interesting to know, though it still kind of pans out the same in the end--the main reason the Iowa would likely win the engagement is because it would be more likely to land a decisive blow first thanks to superior fire control and the ability to use radar to target OTH.
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>>50566627
Not that anon but I believe his definition of 'better' would be the large selection of wargames that actively try to have some aspect of historical simulation to their mechanics rather than being just a game with a historical overlay. I guess the easy vidya equivalents would be something like Verdun vs Battlefield 1.

The general idea that is espoused by some is that a game with no, bad or very minimal aspects of historical simulation shouldn't be treated as a historical wargame. it's much like the narrativist vs simulationist RPG thing but with a clear subject matter for potential simulation via mechanics.

Simulation can be a huge part of a game, but it doesn't have to be expressed in terms of detailing; a lot can be achieved with appropriate simple abstractions. An example of that could be Force on Force's largely unlimited weapons ranges allowing for not having to have the artificial concern of having to worry if units are in range of each other in a Battlespace that's probably less than a hundred meters across. Or A Fistful of TOWs where things might well be out of range, accounts for weapon ranges in a well researched manner and laid out according to a consistent ground scale, but really all the player has to worry about is the number on the unit record and if it's half that or over the number. Which contrasts with a non-simulation game like Bolt Action where weapon ranges are pretty much entirely arbitrary, and not defined by actual ranges via a specific ground scale (different to miniatures scale most of the time).
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>>50561401
The AA shells come to mind.

Like seriously, what the hell Japan?
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I just got some of Warlord's Woodland Indians, can anyone recommend a good system to use them in?
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>>50568465
musket & tomahawk
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>>50562760
Do contribute. Don't be a namefag.
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>>50567559
those things are hilarious.
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>>50567559
Desperation is a ... well it's a thing.
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Hey OP, how far in advance do you prepare these little write ups of yours?
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>>50569280
I recall reading a report where American fighters spend a considerable amount of time attacking Japanese battleships (Samar) and none of them gave the smallest fuck about those shells.

And then there's the fires they started and the possibly sinking of the Mutsu at their hand

10/10 idea Japan, did far more damage to their own war effort than to the allied aircraft.
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>>50570441
Yeah, I remember reading something similar. They thought it was a pretty light show more than anything, but the shells had shitty quality control and something about them was damaging the barrel liners.
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Bit of a messy scan but until we can get a better copy, here's Bolt Action - Armies of Germany v2

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ysljj3shq4c3177/Bolt+Action+-+Armies+of+Germany+v2.pdf

Got a bunch of L'Art De Guerre coming too when I can upload them.

>>50569489
That depends on a few things. When I can see a thread is only a few hours from 404 I usually get started then. Sometimes I can be caught out if it moves particularly fast. Also I sometimes recycle one from last year if it's the same date.

>>50561082
Damn that's handy, thanks Jazz. I'll add it to the OP pasta.
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>>50569280
Japanese made multiple quite lets say interesting choices during and before the war.
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Osprey - GNM - We March Against England - Operation Sealion and German Air-Sea Actions Osprey - GNM - We March Against England - Operation Sealion and German Air-Sea Actions against Great Britain 1940-41.pdf
http://www30.zippyshare.com/v/X8sMHSXZ/file.html
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Conversion Bolt Action - Armies of Germany - Warlord Games 2ed.pdf
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>>50571253
Is mediafire the acceptable form of uploading? I was thinking about throwing up the rest of Battleship Row PDFs.
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>>50573335
Thanks brah
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>>50573396
Also FYI to people http://libgen.io/ has quite a few historic books. Not a whole lot directly wargames related but plenty for background reading such as Piotr Olender's naval books etc.
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Damn, that was fast. This replaces the link I posted above:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jz59icdt2x5494a/Bolt+Action+-+Armies+of+Germany+v2.pdf

>>50573203
This looks like a nice read. Sealion 1940 is an old standard for alt-history wargaming. The original plans as they stand could never have worked and would perhaps have been a disaster for the Germans. But as a grand campaign, with players taking on the key roles from about 1 July 1940, and making very different decisions, then anything could happen.

https://mega.nz/#!Lh0CjYxD!jdrXfRxidTy_CqKt066anucCPMyNOkpddNesPaJZIr8

>>50573396
Mediafire would be handy because then I could just transfer it across to the Naval Wargaming folder, but you go with whatever works for you, anon.
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>>50571253
Thanks anon
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>>50573932
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1mzgghmdzdhw0/Battleship_Row

I play yanks and japs so don't have the Brits, French or Germans, but the statcards for the two I have are there.
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Hail Caesar fans have their own Saturnalia: here's the Age of Caesar book, covering the campaigns of old Julius himself.

https://mega.nz/#!Lk1G2KiL!7_-fFT8zgFE_qr0RmESiGkfJqJMxUL6Ok5gEAjKZei4

Also we have a solid set now for L'Art de la Guerre. This has been around in French for years but was only recently translated. It is apparently similar to games like DBx and Field of Glory.

https://mega.nz/#F!r1k2xRyB!w8Se4qw204aRnPnRKXJb9A

>>50574093
Good stuff anon. By funny coincidence it's the 75th anniversary of Pearl Harbour today, at least at my end. That's something I've actually wargamed myself in the past (I played the Japanese and proved to be no Yamamoto, losing significantly more men and planes in my attempt). I watched a show once on something like the History or Nat Geo Channels, where a bunch of wargamers and some veterans played out an alternate version of the raid. In this case the US Fleet was alerted early, sailed out in a nice line and was promptly slaughtered by Japanese torpedo bombers. I remember this triggering one of the old-timers, who insisted the torpedo bombers would have been blown away, and pointed to Midway as an example.

>>50573834
That's an interesting pic. Apparently it shows the remnants of a failed breakout by SS-Nordland during the last days in Berlin. What caught my eye was the Luftwaffe number plate on the kubelwagen there, it's a long way from its parent unit. I would be impressed if someone could identify the unit insignia on the left mudguard.
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>>50511710
anyone have the new french foreign legion book? also the War of the Confederation osprey?
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>>50575478
The new FFL title doesn't come out til the 15th. Which one is the War of the Confederation book? I'm looking forward to Osprey finally releasing a MAA on the Eighty Year's War, and there's a Combat due in February, "New Zealand Soldier vs German Motorcycle Soldier - Greece 1941", that I'm quite excited about.
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>>50575573
south american one
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>>50576949
There are two very recent MAAs, one covering the War of the Pacific and the other on the War of the Triple Alliance, but nothing than I can see on the War of the Confederation.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/iwdkaeibwjlttvv/Osprey+-+MAA+499+-+Armies+of+the+War+of+the+Triple+Alliance+1864-1870.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gt0f0saappoqalh/Osprey+-+MAA+504+-+Armies+of+the+War+of+the+Pacific+1879-83.pdf
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wasn't fully satisfied with it so I did some small touch ups. foremost a bar on the front to hold the spare tracks and 2 pins to hold the one over the drivers compartment into place. also, big mistake I did: The spare running wheels should not be separated. fixed that. I think now it's done and ready for action.
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>>50577198
Ready for some Bolt Action?
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>>50577229
*rimshot* Hell yeah! only that I have like 30 winter Germans to paint before that...
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If you live in the Netherlands and Regenboogforel means something to you, here's proof I've shipped a package to you.

It's in the Royal Mail's hands now.

Merry Christmas.
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>>50578793
You got the Netherlands too?

Just how many anons do we have posting from the Netherlands here?
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>>50578834
at least 2, but I doubt more than that.
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Does anyone know any good internet model shops in Europe where I could find 1:72 post-WWII vehicles easily? I'm in Finland if that helps. Attaching a Not-a-BMP pic as a token of good luck.
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>>50580307
S&S does a crapton of them, also you can check SgtsMess and Grubby Tanks - these are all resin/metal. If you want plastics, I can recommend Hannants and Modelhobbies. Tho you need to consider UK to be Europe. Also there's Tracks & Troops in the Czech Republic.

Unrelated: I'm fucking around in CAD to make a college assignment, and tho some things are not clear how to do (and thus the model is rather inaccurate), my first try at a Csaba 39M Armored Car.
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>>50580397
Alright, thanks m8! I'll check them out.
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>>50580307

Ebay?
Amazon?

Sockelshop.de has a large inventory, but shipping from Germany is expensive.

http://www.modellbau-koenig.de (same as sockelshop, large inventory, high shipping cost)

http://jordirubio.com/en/ (Spain)
http://www.hobbiesguinea.es/en/ (Spain as well, so shipping to finland might be even higher)

I'm German and i found out that buying from Asian sellers via ebay or the Amazon marketplace is usually cheaper than ordering from a german hobby store, so i advise to compare prices.

(over at /toy/ is a general thread for scale modeling, you might want to ask your question there too, maybe someone knows a few more shops than i do)
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>>50580511
Yeah, I'll ask them too if required. I checked those German shops and shipping was actually pretty reasonable to Finland.
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>>50580579
Well, in that case feel free to order from them if they have what you like. Both are trustworthy and ship extremely fast (inside of Germany that is). I ordered a couple of times from both of them over the years and never had a problem.
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>>50578793
Damn exiting anon, what can I expect! My package is still underway from the UK to me so I'll send it the moment it arrives.

Regenboogforel is a fish, a rainbow trout
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>>50581145
A little of everything I've had a go at these last 2 years.
I don't want to give anything away but hopefully you will like some of it. If you are the Dutch anon I think you are I'm sure some of the 6mms will have a place with you.
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Speaking of the Secret Santa, at least one of you in Germany has a package coming your way.
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My Secret Santa box should be delivered already, but Anon didn't post anything yet.
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Do we open them as we get them, or do we wait for christmas?
What's the etiquette?
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>>50582913
Over at /wip/ people posted right away, i guess there is no rule for that.. its not someone can stop you from opening it anyway.
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>>50574779
Thanks for L'Art de la Guerre, have just been reading some battle reports on blogs in the last month and was looking around for it.
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>>50574779
Noted the anniversary too, was thinking about doing something for it but most of my mates aren't up for games today, which is rough.

> That's something I've actually wargamed myself in the past

Any tips on wargaming set scenarios like that? I keep wanting to do the Battle off Samar but am not sure how to make it winnable for the yanks (which is important given they did in fact win it).
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>>50582913
I'd wait, but that's just me.
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For the Kentucky anon across the way from Cincinnati, your thing will be shipped out today.
You'll have to excuse my handwriting, I've got a nasty joint condition.
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Do you guys watch the Solo Wargamer Show on youtube? I recently stumbled across this guy and he comes across as some kind of super grognard.
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>>50583845

Wait. We have Americans on /hwg/? I thought were are all from the EU, Australia, and with a couple of blokes from Canada to round out the numbers. Do Americans even play historical wargames? I thought they were all warmachine and 40K types.
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>>50584525
Loads of americans play hwgs, however they all seem to play either BA or the ACW
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>>50584525
I heard ACW is pretty big over there.
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>>50584525
It's not terribly popular over there relative to say, the UK.
But someone has to keep the ACW market alive.
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>>50584525
Nah mate, everyone's from Hampshire.

Just some are from New Hampshire.
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>>50584731
They made a New one?
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>>50584525
>>50584624
Yeah, there's some of us. I even have precious little interest in BA OR ACW.
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>>50584838
It's still ww2 though right?
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>>50583724
I don't think I can contain myself when the package arrives!

>>50584731
I got an actual Hampshire present!

>>50581450
I do have a 6mm army, can't wait till it arrives here. Maybe it arrives on time for my birthday the 11th but I doubt it.
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>>50584838
Yes, New South Hampshire.

I believe it's in Australia.
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>>50584886
>>50584826
Shit wrong quote.
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>>50584872
>I do have a 6mm army, can't wait till it arrives here.
I thought it was you, I remember you saying you lived in that area in the Netherlands.

They are Napoleonic 6mms but they aren't anglo-allied I'm afraid
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Do the new Bolt Action rules now prevent you from moving Heavy Howitzers without a tow?
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>>50584861
Yes, but it's also Age of Sail, or really most boatsboatsboats, and someday I'd like to get into stuff like Chevauchee or Saga because the idea of small warbands fascinates me. Musket and Tomahawk looks pretty damn cool too.
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>>50560527
In FOW, a pistol shoots out to 10cm, which we can assume is 50m in scale. It's really not a big deal if the models are close. Also this parking lot thing is garbage, if you see someone doing it, drop artillery on their asses.
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Massive progress on Westfront

Main rules finished:
-Infantry
-Cavalry
-Fortifications: trenches/ pillboxes /dugouts
-Artillery: 4 main types - trench mortars, flat-firing field guns, howitzers, and heavy howitzers which includes heavy German mortars like the 21 and 42cm mörser
-Vehicles
-Poison gas and gas masks
-Evolution of war over time: no creeping barrages early war (1914 - 1915), indirect machine gun fire in mid war (1916), as well as inherent support trenches for entire deployment zone in western front theater.
Late war - German machinegun teams able to advance through enemy creeping barrages to set up in no mans land, as well as German AT rifles.

Now just need to write the deployment / gameplay / turn layout rules, and fine tune the orders and requests / responses from H.Q. Not really that much, and most of the orders stuff is done. Then on to playtesting.

Almost finished painting my first 12 bases of German infantry too - just need to base read: mudthem and paint the regiment number on the pickelhaube. They're going to be 12th regiment because its an easy number to paint at the scale.
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What are some good sources on the operation of DDs in WW2 and important crew positions etc. on board them? I've always been a passing fan of naval wargaming and history but most of my knowledge at a fleet or strategic scale.
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>>50589445
Perhaps these will help

http://www.mediafire.com/file/xdek7ewdgda3ga5/Osprey+-+DUE+048+-+USN+Destroyer+vs+IJN+Destroyer.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/u8uuai840b7d53q/Osprey+-+NVA+162+-+US+Destroyers+1934-45.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/dshbku9fdm24hfi/Osprey+-+NVA+165+-+US+Destroyers+1942-45.pdf
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>>50590565
Thanks anon, those look helpful. Don't suppose you've got anything particular to Royal Navy Destroyers too?
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>>50590730
As it happens there's no Osprey on WW2 British destroyers (although there are ones for them in WW1 and the modern designs). But here's the 1940 Janes, it should provide some info.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nm1i325duosagoz/Janes+Fighting+Ships+1940.pdf
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>>50586336
+1
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WLG Rebellion - for those who need this to complete the "set":
https://mega.nz/#!zYdSmaoA!6ES1DixnwGnri9mHX0GexTaFrLuedKn0P-4fCdREIxI
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>>50590810
Not exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for but nonetheless helpful, thanks mate.
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>>50589009
And the rifles? Pistols' range is generally okay, it's rifles that get gutted.
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>>50591185
This is much appreciated, thanks anon
Now all we need is Albion Triumphant v2

http://www.mediafire.com/file/pwgqlwkp1g49nur/Black+Powder+-+Rebellion%21.pdf
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>>50591434
Oh shit, bought it but apparently forgot to post it. Sorry, here it is:

https://mega.nz/#!zNlT0QrB!2d-B0mlecXzodw1nLWbR0UqT73GXCj6H-DWd1YNQb9s
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>>50591544
The circle is complete

http://www.mediafire.com/file/vc5afc3ab9uhdbx/Black+Powder+-+Albion+Triumphant+v2+-+The+100+Days+Campaign.pdf
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>>50584525

Murifat here, only /hwg/ stuff I have is 28mm ancients. Nobody to play with that I know of so I'm just planning to buy, construct, and paint four armies from the same period and force my gaming group to play them with me at gunpoint.
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>>50578834
Can confirm at least 2. I play in amsterdam and know another anon who plays ww1 in den Haag.

roll call / poll??
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>>50591434
>>50591686
Awesome. Thank you guys!
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>>50584023
No, but thanks for reminding me to resubscribe to Lone Warrior, I've been meaning to catch back up and also get some back issues, and they finally started doing PDFs a while back.

It's a cool magazine, even if you've never even thought of playing solo.
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The largest room in my flat can just barely accomodate a 10'x6' table. 8'x6' is still filling the room, but slightly more practical for multiple people.

Gonna have to do something over winterval this year, it's been far too long since I played on a 6' wide table.
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>>50589314
Noice
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To the anon in the northern netherlands, I have just sent off your parcel with a small letter taped to the side.

I forgot to put it inside before I taped up the box.
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Warhammer - Historical Battles - Chariot Wars.pdf https://mega.nz/#!a9UVxTLA!GGvE2I3Yrr-HaPaaf1tRK7d3ITqNQ1qMZJ7TcaaG14g
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Bump
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>>50589314
Looking sexy anon
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Secret Santa package sorted, ready to be posted out after work tomorrow.
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>>50595729
beautiful terrain and minis
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>>50592525
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/vc5afc3ab9uhdbx/Black+Powder+-+Albion+Triumphant+v2+-+The+100+Days+Campaign.pdf
Perfect! Many thanks!
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>>50600466
Now.... General de Brigade 3rd Edition and six suipplements anyone.... anyone.... anyone..Bueller... Bueller...
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>>50591900
Up in the northern land of earthquakes and gas mining here.

>>50594658
Somehow, this seems relevant to my interests.
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>>50560331
>ex GW designers with minimal knowledge on the subject
Mate, BA might be a poor representation of WW2 combat, but give the guys some credit. They were/are "hobbyist" historical wargamers. They had more than minimal knowledge of the subject, and being GW "old guard" is no bad thing.
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>>50601454
I thought Allessio admitted not knowing much about WW2 when he was first writing BA.

Being GW old guard isn't exactly rousing endorsement of game design and balance.
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Since we speak about Alessio;

here is a review of one of his latest works: Deus Vult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRlqWOGNlVc&list=TLGGoJITS_yvv0IwODEyMjAxNg
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I'll probably never use it in Bolt Action but i got the tank for 6€ on ebay a while ago. It was decently built too.
Now i finally found the time to start painting it.

What do you think? C&C is welcome as always.
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>>50602725
The colors are nice, very striking, could use a bit of weathering though. Oil steaks, mud, dust. Whatever.
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>>50602856
Thank you! Yes, the whole chipping and weathering still needs to be done.

Right now i'm looking at it and try to figure out if i want to add these "octopus rings" like on pic related or not. Both versions of this pattern existed in RL apparently.
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>>50600550
Oklahoma?
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>>50578834
Another Netherlands here but I hardly ever post, I'm more of a lurker on 4chan in general.
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