>water mages are required to wear swimming attire instead

str -2

>>50508345
she freezes to death because she specializes in ice magic. Oh well, time to turn those old boots of the winterlands into a leather string bikini.

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>>50508422
if she specializes in ice magic, can't she keep the cold away from her own butt?

>>50508345
Probably not much, wearing clothing symbolically associated with the magic you're trying to work is helpful in general.
What does "swimming attire" look like during, say, the medieval or iron age? Similar to now but made out of plant- or hair-based textiles? That strikes me as likely to be wrong but I am regularly surprised.

>>50508447
you're pretty much correct.

>>50508447
>What does "swimming attire" look like during, say, the medieval or iron age?
Birthday suit, I guess.

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>>50508345
My Muscle Wizard just became Californian.

Dang it, I hate California.

>>50508345
There wouldn't be many hydromancers outside the tropics.

>>50508345
It happened in Obsidian's Tyranny. Short-answer, she's a whore.

>>50508439
that would be heat magic, idiot

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>>50508505
Wait are you actually playing a muscle wizard or are you memeing

>>50508569
He has 16 Str and 18 Con.

What do you think?

>>50508550
Hummm, aren't users of an elemental power often immune/resistant to that elements effects?

Be sort of silly to have a ice mage that is always battling hypothermia or a pyromancer that gets heat stroke.

>>50508447
>What does "swimming attire" look like during, say, the medieval or iron age?
Nudity.

Swimsuits weren't really a common thing until the 19th century. While bikini-style clothing existed at least as far back as ancient Rome, actually swimming was usually done naked. Without elastic or synthetic fabrics, making a garment that would stay on during vigorous activity in the water but wouldn't become waterlogged and impede the swimmer's movement was very difficult.

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>>50508422
>the cold bothers her anyway

>>50508599
Don't you think heavy winter clothing makes for a pretty cool and distinctive costume for a cold-themed magician, though?

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>>50508345

>druids are required to wear animal-themed attire

how does that impact your setting?

>>50508481
>>50508617
Well, performing magical rituals in the nude shouldn't be out of the ordinary, either, depending on tradition, so still not much shaken up.

Everybody's immediately thinking of bikinis, one piece suits and swimming trunks. What about wet suits or high- pressure diving gear?

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>>50508345
>Keep getting robes soaked because water mage.

>Create Waterproof clothes?
>Learn cold-immunity, ice clothing conjuration spells?
>Nudist Magic Discipline?
>Oh wait I'm a wizard just waterproof my clothes so it doesn't matter?
>Prestidigitation?

Still, if water magic is prevalent enough to afford to live in picturesque location like a tropical island or at least temperate lakeside, I could see the traditional habits lending themselves toward swimwear rather than robes. Entry level spells are water-breathing, cold-resistance and aquatic motion.

Merfolk casters probably get a little bit of a preference for these places since they can get to the proper aquatic locations under the surface where the practical lessons tend to take place, but the coast is awash with structures above and below the surface depending on what application comes up.

Maybe even a floating platform, or rising falls from the waterline holding up the classes for cloud and weather water magic.

>>50508950
Those're kind of restrictive and uncomfortable. Though a wetsuit would solve the "getting too cold" problem discussed above.

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>>50508345
Okay, but what do Pyromancers wear?

>>50508345
Slaanesh is pleased.

>>50508990
Obviously they wear clothing which is actively on fire.

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>>50508671
Can be, doesn't need to be though. No-shirt no-shoes refrigeration service via frost mage doesn't sound too bad either.

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>>50508990
>>50509011
Non-flamables, lightweight clothing that isn't likely to get torn or caught in explosions. If you're fire-immune you might still consider scuba gear or at least a gas mask to keep breathing in case you aren't also smoke immune or no longer oxygen dependent.

>>50508990
Chef's hats and aprons

>>50509031
>be overseeing a batch of newly appointed pyromancers
>class is happy to have graduated, some being rowdier than others
>going nuts immolating themselves cause of fire immunity
>they're having fun
>half the class dies of smoke inhalation

>surfer dude mages surfing around atop water elemental summons
Tubular/10

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>>50508675

>>50509062
honestly, I'm glad they thin themselves out. Pyromancin' ain't easy.

>>50508345
>Stargate 1888
I dont think you thought this through OP

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>>50508990
Flame shirts

>>50508671
>Don't you think heavy winter clothing makes for a pretty cool and distinctive costume for a cold-themed magician, though?
I do, but I also think it can be a bit over played. An ice mage having a fur collar on their robes is a nice touch. Having them dress like an Eskimo for a campaign that takes place in a temperate forest or grassland, is a bit much to me.

>>50508345
> Mage

> Required to do jack shit

The entire reason to study magic is so that physics can stop trying to tell you what to do, and now you're trying to make me dress up like some watery tart? What, next you want me to go around hanging out in lakes by Castles and handing out swords to hopeful kings?

Fuck you. I'm going to wear a Burkini.

>>50508990
Dress like firefighters.

>>50509455
That's just the lot in life of a magician. You trade the iron fist of physics as your ruler for a council of weirder and more esoteric bullshit.
Well, I guess it doesn't have to be their lot, but if magic is so powerful and also virtually costless that sounds just a little lame.

>>50509489

This spring I read a short manga about Firefighters, literal fire benders and normies who fought hostile Fire Elementals and each other. I think it was done by the guy that did Bleach. It had an okay premise but then it petered out pretty quickly. But the aesthetics were these Firefighters would wear actual Firefighter gear, and some of the normies would have extra cool gadgets and armor built into the gear

>>50509321
Dude, that is a pic of a flambe-o-mancer. Close to pyromancers since they both use fire, but he specialized in cooking with fire magic.

>>50508345
>Magical Girl setting
>Most our group hasn't seen any Magical Girl media since Sailor Moon and Card Captors.
>This is reflected in our outfits which we ended up deciding on basically Sailor Moon style leotard, miniskirt, belt, mini-cape and fancy shoes.
So not much changes, our water witch is already in what could pass for modest one-piece swimsuit. Along side everyone else.

Also the reoccuring mermaid kaiju villain is in a bikini when in human disguise, or dressed like she was going to the beach already, so other then putting her bikini top back on when she has her tail out, no change.

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>>50509455
It's not so much required as the symbolic nature of the clothing allows greater ease of casting from a particular school of magic.

You think the Necromancer actually WANTS to dress like an edgelord? Fuck no, that shit reduces mana costs by like 40% and gives 2 bonus skellies per raising.

>>50509094
Godamnit that's cute

Too bad mascot outfits freak me the fuck out

>>50509558
That'd actually be a pretty cool school of magic. I wanna multiclass as a battle chef now.

>It's all about hunting down and killing the rarest, most delicious, most dangerous monsters for the ultimate meal

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>Wearing clothes at all when using water magic
Enjoy your spell failure and chafing.

>>50508345
>The worst mage in the world (he would make an awesome sorcerer though) wears a classy justaucorps
>The most powerful human mage wears a hooded mantle and nothing else. She also has no arms due to leprosy rendering them worthless and had them amputated. She goes immodest because ever try using the bathroom without arms?
>The most powerful immortal mage wears tattered shorts, a pristine cape, and straps on her feet. Tits out, captain.
>The ex-most powerful mage wears a full-length robe reddened with the blood of a succubus. The robe is cursed and taking it off is a bad idea.
>A fairly strong ice mage is wearing a kimono in the "traditional" fashion.

Clearly, immodesty is power, and water mages have gone from "worthless" to "Uh oh".

>>50509094
The furries are beco9ming more advanced. This is horrifying.

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>>50508345
>Weak, skinny, flabby mages wearing swimsuits
Disgusting. This is also why I don't understand dudes who go chick spotting at beaches

>>50508505
>My Muscle Wizard just became Californian.
MUH DICC

>>50509094
That's actually a pretty cute outfit. A shame about the community it's associated with.

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>the water mages must wear swimsuits

They fit in right with the martials then.

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>>50510539
Here, have a WebM.

>>50510546
>Tome of Battle Book of Nine Swords.webm

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>>50510559
>3rd party martial disciplines.
Go look up Carnal Blossom Discipline and have fun.

>>50510872
Going back to topic though,
>Water mages in swimwear.
>Fire mages in skimpy, but durable outfits to minimize catching on fire or else full fireproofed anti-contaminant suits to avoid asphyxiating themselves.

Earth mages must go barefoot?
Air-users always hyperventilating?
Metal-users never taking armor off, wearing quicksilver as a second-skin?
Plant magicians wearing still-live vines, leaves and all, complete with grow-on snacks?

>>50510896
Nah just have to wear something that visually evokes the element so that their elemental theme is completely obvious. That way it becomes a part of their spell casting ritual.

>>50511137
Stone-plate clad Dwarf Rock Mages wielding pure iron clubs indistinguishable from the warriors of their clan so that they are hidden among the rank and file; like rocks on a mountain?

Would a fire mage use a Fire motif, or a woodland one to represent kindling?

>>50508519
Why? There is literally nothing to imply that, besides her outfit (which is literally what everyone else wears because it's south and it's hot). Ancient times and Bronze Age had really revealing clothing, google it.

Water mages wear diving suits with SCUBA gear.

Fire mages wear firesuits. The bulky silvery kind.

Earth mages wear simple work overalls and steel-toed boots and must use a jackhammer as their focus.

Air mages wear flight jumpsuits, helmets, and oxygen masks.

Metal mage outfit is similar to earth mage outfit, but also requires fireproof mittens and a power hammer as a focus.

Wood mages wear flanel shirts, jeans, a beard, and a chainsaw.

Void mages wear space suits.

>>50511566
So does that mean a necromancer has to wear a suit?

>>50511623
Possibly. Maybe also he has to lie in a coffin to use his powers.

>>50508345
Implausible and stupid scenario.

Better version: using water magic inevitably gets you soaked. What do water mages wear and what special precautions do they take due to this?

>>50511623
That also means that mages function best in close proximity to their elements, and almost never near the opposite. That's why all the void mages are on orbital stations or off-world bases on barrent planets without atmosphere.

>>50511675
Swimsuits. They wear swimsuits.

>>50509094
It's an optical trick.
The eyes are dead centre but recessed behind a convex lens so as you view from different angles it looks like they're following you.

>>50511684
Water magic doesn't keep you from getting cold or needing protection from other elements.

>>50511693
And? What do you suggest, then?

>>50510005
Same boat senpai.
Also worried it's a furry practicing some fetish act.

>>50511951
It is.

>>50511623
Sure, they have to wear typical funeral clothes so, they're always in suits and dresses.

>>50509094
I would.

>>50510546
anime was a mistake

>>50509558
False, anon. That is a Flavormancer.
Now turn in your Flavortown entry permit.

>>50512075
>dissing AOTY

If I shaked my head any harder, it would snap off and fly into orbit.

>>50508345
All my elemental mages wear attire that doesn't showcase their elements.
why broadcast to everyone around you what your weakness is? Sounds dumb if you ask me.

All dragons have long since learned to change their outer color too.

>having a setting with something as irritatingly bland as "water mages" in it
I pity all you fools.

>>50512336
why don't you enlighten us about how amazing and unique your setting is anon?

>>50512342
It's a Hyboria pastiche wherein I blatantly ripped off several real cultures, and it's still better than your setting.

>>50512097
Flavourtown is just a location within the Elemental Plane of Flambe.

>>50512353
>Hyboria
sounds like your setting is dogshit

>>50512585
And yet, it's still better than yours.

>>50511693
At that point either water mages would need a pocket fire mage to keep them from getting hypothermia, or water mages would only really "work" in hot climates. Being drenched in water constantly would totally suck.

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>>50512605
>no u

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>>50512635
>no u 2

>>50512635
he's right desu
Classical elements are the lamest form of magic imaginable.

>>50510546
source?

>>50512692
Google 'butt fight anime' and if it isn't the first, second, third and forth result then you live on another planet.

>>50508599
Not really a rule. Always nice to hoist someone by their own petard, and even beyond that it's just a thematic choice whether or not to make them immune.

Do you usually make time wizards immune to aging?

>>50508990
Ash, obviously.

... it turns out that most elemental wizards are required to wear something close to nudity, with this rule.

>>50509455
>I studied magic so nothing would be able to tell me what to do!
>wait I need to learn how to use ancient books, magic words, spell components, hand gestures, and ritual prep?
>fuck that, completely defeats the point of me NOT KNOWING ANYTHING OR TRYING EVER

>>50509813
>skellimtons all have an edgy clothing fetish

>>50512692
>Japanese Title:
競女!!!!!!!!
>Romanized Title:
Keijo!!!!!!!!
>English Title:
Hip Flip Girl

That's eight exclamation points, in case you were wondering.

>>50512736
Why not just help them out?

>>50512912
>Why not just help them out?
man, fish, yadda yadda

>>50512926
>it's not because I didn't know the title/was too lazy, I swear!

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>>50512937
I choose not to spoonfeed.
But obviously I can't prevent the others from doing so.

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>>50508345
>Numerous petitions sent to the King by the Temple of Hedonism
>Petitions are all requests for a new temple to be built right next to the water mage academy

>>50512982
You can get rid of welfare when laws regarding hunting, growing your own food, owning rain barrels, and living off the grid are given 500 lashes.

>>50508594
>16 STR
So not a muscle wizard then

>>50511693
>Water magic doesn't keep you from getting cold

Counterpoint: yes it does.

>>50512655
>knocking the classics

They're classic for a reason, anon.

>>50510005
>>50511951
It's good to know I'm not alone.

>>50512982
>men and women alike should be required to work to earn their living, but should still require permission from private entities to do so
>said permission can be denied based on their shave not being a millimeter closer or the job being done by robots or whatever other silly reason

t. someone who watched a man with an MBA have to poke around at retail for three years and constantly be turned down, but that's enough /biz/ for now

>>50513162
well it's because they're based on haptic categories

not particularly cool especially when most people nowadays picture magic as "electricity of various colors" thanks to Japan's interpretation of aura seeing.

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>>50508345
My primary setting is elementally-leaning towards Water, being "close" (insomuch as it makes sense) to the Elemental Plane of Water due to the preferences of its creator god, The Writer, whose preferences were directly based on mine as he is a sort of self-insert/fictionalised version of myself who recently realised that I must exist and is pretty upset about it.

There's roughly the same number of water mages as there are other types of elemental-thematic mages put together, ranging from amateurs purifying their family wells to one of the most powerful entities in the setting (there are many more non-elemental-thematic mages, though).

Many questions will be asked. It's highly likely that the mages' college on what was already a resort island in the middle of the endless sea will find new custom. It'd likely also damage the fashion industry there, which is the second largest in the world.

The older mages, now no longer resistant to the pleasant cold of their chosen lands, would either grow bigger beards to shield themselves with or start to take over the wastelands of The Wilds, attempting (probably successfully) to transform it into a tropical wonderland more in tune with their current attire.

And hoo boy, nobody's going to be able to look the Empress of the Dawn Empire in the eye for a while. She is 80, and definitely not Helen Mirren.

>>50513235
>And hoo boy, nobody's going to be able to look the Empress of the Dawn Empire in the eye for a whil
Where would they look instead?

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>>50508345
what kind of faggot uses classical elementalism anyway? Abstract concepts are so much better.

>>50513500
Even fucking schools of magic like transmutation or necromancy are better, and they are as shit-tier as it gets.

>>50513500
>>50513541
See >>50513162

>>50508345
>OPs are required to masturbate before posting
how does that impact your board quality?

>>50511517
citation? everything I'm reading disagrees with you.

>>50513977
Did you actually play the game?

>>50513876
>OPs are required to finish masturbating before posting
FTFY.

>>50514210
I'm talking about your claim that people dressed skimpy in the bronze age

>>50508345
I guess somebody invented clothes?

>>50513541
>and they are as shit-tier as it gets.
obviously not

>>50509094

I'd hit that.

>>50508345
I doesn't. Everyone is a fire mage. It's a survival requeriment, actually.
Those unable to do fire magic end up culled by a very effective natural selection.

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What is Kim Alexis' spell loadout
?

tfw I run a homebrew with a race of amphibious humanoids, and one NPC of that race is both a killy mcfuckstic (he is a grapple and stab specialist, in a system where that is very dangerous especially in stealth situations) and has a thing for skintight sharkskin swimsuits.

And nobody has once noticed they have a chill as fuck stabbity bondage fetish rogue as a regular NPC.

>>50509094
I's fine man in furry costume.
I know you're trying to be cute.
But you're not. Your sou is long gone and you want appreciation.

Just let it end, this is naught but a delusion shuffle the torment of flesh, let go of your mortal coil.

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>>50509094
Gonna make a setting where a small demographic of catfolk wear human costumes and get ostracised by the rest of the catfolk community.

>Get the fuck out of here you disgusting Skinny

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>>50508345
>>water mages are required to wear swimming attire instead of robes
I am okay with this

>>how does that impact your setting?
Not much I guess, it's a bit harder to get around on land though.

>>50517175
>all metal diving suit
Is it just me, or are old timey diving suits fucking terrifying? Having a small glass barrier between you and one of the most unpleasant deaths imaginable is pretty awful

>>50508345
Mage schools are now obligated to have central heating.

That's it.

>>50517468
most old-timey stuff is terrifying, due to a mixture of it being so crude and being rusted all to hell.

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>>50517468
Water magic is serious business, It's not for someone who can't handle the pressure

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>>50517563
Well that and the fact back then there were no OSHAs around and "safety" meant "doesn't kill the user 100% of the time".

>>50508345
female water mages get raped constantly, women stop practicing water magic because they don't want to be raped, and the few who continue to do it are accused of being sluts who wanted it because everyone knows water mages get raped

men become silver surfer

>>50517697
plus function > form

They didn't have time to make that shit look pretty, there was science to do!

>>50517726
If they're water mages they can use their powers to defend themselves against rape, silly

>>50517752
>Splashing people with water can stop rape
Please anon, it's not mace mages we are talking about here

>>50517726
You are an imbecile.

>>50517726
>typed entirely with one hand

>>50512336
Eh, whatever. It's a step up from DnD settings were wizard is mostly a universal caster most people play.

>>50511517
Half of the things she says are about sex and fucking. And she's a widowed MILF who wants to fuck some 20-something soldier.

>>50517955
>who wants to fuck some 20-something soldier.
who doesn't?

>>50517778
>Implying water can't be manipulated beyond a splash
>Implying a water mage can't use her powers to insta-dehydrate her attacker by channelling all the water out of his body

>>50508345
Sounds generic and boring. Keeping the swimsuit theme I would make the following changes.

>At the end of a water mages apprenticeship they are required to craft their badge of office. It is a tight waterproof body suit conjured ftrom the elemental plane of water.
>No two suits look alike, as they all reflect the personality of its creator. Over time the suits slowly change, as their creator's power grows.
>Some master level aqua mages are able to change their wet suit at will.
>While on land aqua mages wear weighted robes. Upon shedding these heavy garments, they are frighteningly quick on land, or in the water.

>>50517983
>who doesn't
All of the the demales I have met in the last 7 years
T. Soldier Anon

>>50518316
*Females

>>50518316
maybe you're just very ugly?

>>50517983
Any other party members I guess.

>>50515412
Is there a "act like a whore" spell?

>>50518599
She's a model, she doesn't act like a whore.

>>50518622
>She's a model
>she doesn't act like a whore
You've lost me.

>>50518622
Oh, I see
because she IS a whore

>>50518648
>>50518646
salty as fuck

>>50508345
First, it makes water specific mages exist

Secondly, all my players start playing female water mages

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If we mix the following
>>50508345
>>50508439
>>50515412

With
>>50517175
>>50517653
>>50517697

We pretty much end up with Aquaknight, right?

>>50512655
It's not any lamer than the typical 'whatever I want today'mancy

>>50518855
no, since that aquaknight only bears similarities with the latter set of pictures

>>50518858
>typical 'whatever I want today'mancy
Happinessmancy? Moneymancy? Sexmancy?

>>50518875
C'mon. The main character is a babe who wears a swimsuit under her armour.

>>50518916
drugmancy

>>50508345
She known to skinny dip...

Now goes sky clad all the time?

I wish I had her courage. I'm a closet exhibitionist.

So element magic is lame.
So whateveromancy is lame.
What's not lame, then? Vancian? Druids? Paul fucking Daniels?

Help a brother out here, /tg/.

>>50517778
>I never watched Katara blood-bend
>I never heard of water jet cutters
>I never heard of a pressure shockwave
>I never got knocked senseless by a wave at the beach
>I never choked on a glasss of water in my life
>I never accidently inhaled my own saliva
>I never heard of drowning

What are you? some kind of desert lizard?

>>50513367
Probably somewhere near the floor. She IS 80.

>>50517778
>What is exsanguination?
Seeing as most of the human body is composed of water, it's probably best not to fuck with somebody who has the ability to control or, you know, extract it. Also, anybody who can't breathe with their lungs full of water probably shouldn't pick a fight with a water mage. The same goes for any rapists who don't want their testicles ruptured by internal fluid pressure.