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What are your favorite maneuvers, /pfg/?

>>50493139

Ironically, i haven't had many undead in my campaigns. Most of my battles have been fairly pedestrian. Humanoids, humanoids and yet more humanoids.

Rolled 8, 8 + 2 = 18 (2d10 + 2)

>>50493139
They're weak-ass pussies who get dusted by meme spells most of the time, unfortunately. Though I guess technically there's the party member who is slowly turning into a vampire, via modified corruption mechanics. She's pretty strong, but also kind of dense.

Dhampir: Not even once.

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>>50493154
Do stances count?

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>>50493154
i honestly unironically love the stance of assured victory

>>50493139
>tfw I almost never get to fight undead
>tfw the campaign where I got to build an undead never got off the ground

So I can't smash skellingtons and I can't play that mummified sorceress I've been dying to unleash. It's not fun.

>>50493154
Descending Sunset Strike

>>50493180
what book are the corruptions from anyways

>>50493154
Black Seraph Battle Stance

>>50493139
In my game the undead were mostly serious, however only mindless undead are evil, if they were still sentient that could be any alignment. The players once worked with an aware Juju zombie to overthrow his master.

>>50493154
I'm a sucker for all the elemental flux stuff. I played a Gunsmoke Mystic which used Air and Electricity, it was great fun.

>>50493180
>meme

Does this even mean anything any more?

>>50493385
No.

>>50493154
My favorite two disciplines are Elemental Flux, and Mithral Current. My favorite maneuvers from them are Strike of Elemental Devestation and Whirlpool Strike. I love wrecking multiple people with one strike. Makes me super happy.

>>50493385

Other than the fact that you are trapped in a meme fueled hell not really.

>>50493154

If we're not counting stances, I've always had a soft spot for Silver Knight's Blade.

So I have a really dumb idea for a game, tell me how shit this is on a scale of 1 to 10

e6 game, allowing for people to drop in and drop out, everyone starts at 6, and i'd be using a whole bunch of horror adventures rules, including sanity/fear/corruptions, which would persist. Ideally characters from all alignments could apply

Run games maybe bi-weekly and make a lottery or something for everyone who wants to play. I dunno.

Idea is for every game played to be a oneshot mission, you're all working for a super secret wizard society or something that keeps the horrifying monstrosities that go bump in the night from fucking everything over.

Not sure about the details yet, i have a lot to hammer out, but its 1 am, and the idea hit me

>>50493154
Ruby Zenith Strike and all of its incarnations. It's not as great as just full-attacking, but it's still gratifying to see that much damage in a single number.

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>>50493154
God of the Hourglass.

Hunting Zephyr and Phantom Sunstorm are close seconds for obvious reasons....

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>>50493204
Granted she's 'sleeping' often enough, but... definitely wrong goddess.

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Well this is my exact first foray into PoW... and Psionics. well Soulknives have never been too psionic.

This is what i came up with, still need to pick my Traits, and buy all my equipment.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1025913

Who is depressed homebrewer? Are his classes good? Tell me /pfg/

For my Literally Sips_ character what skill would I use to make high quality dirt? Craft Alchemy? Profession (Farmer)? Also how good are vigilante at unarmed?

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>>50493609
Oh, and Silver Spiral Strike, given the proper weapon.

>>50493662
Alchemy would be most useful, I'd guess. Get right in there with some dirt science. Also because Craft (Alchemy) is useful for other stuff too.

Vigilantes are pretty good at anything they want to specialize in. Unarmed is one of those things; just take the right talents for it.

>>50493648
Like all trip fags, he's annoying.

>>50493773
Oh he's not so bad. He just got meme'd to death. He's one of the few productive local tripfags.

>>50493793
Which means its only a short amount of time before we turn on him and attempt to cannibalize yet another one of our own.

>>50493819
We already tried with the NTR bullshit and attempted witch hunts. He survived that.

>>50493154
>Fading strike and its line
>Reactive reversion boost
>Fool's errand enemy throwing line of maneuvers

Shoutout to Obsidian Sidestep that's saved me from bad will saves more times than I can count.

Is /pfg/'s Hell's Vengeance game going to be ruined by autistic pedantry in the rules thread?

How do extended defenses and other similar abilities work? For example:

>Lucifer goes 4th in initiative order, and attacks the Warder
>The Warder uses Invulnerable Shell of the Iron Tortoise, triggering extended defenses on it
>The Warder goes 6th in initiative order

Is the Warder invulnerable until he next takes his turn, until the start of Lucifer's next turn, or until the start of the next combat round regardless of turn order?

>>50494335
Until the warder goes next in the initiative order, so 6th.

>>50493662
Alchemy's what you want.

Also good for making all that [STUFFED ANIMALS]

And yeah, unarmed is an area Vigilantes can do good. Fist of the Avenger gets them a flat damage boost with fist or gauntlet attacks.

You can get Lethal Grace as well for another flat damage boost. The requirement for that is that you be using dexterity to hit and strength for damage, but it's half your level in extra, non-stat-dependant damage and gives you weapon finesse at the same time, so it's a good deal.

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> While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form

So wildshaped druid will lose most racial abilities, like half-orc's Sacred Tattoo or dwarf's Hardy? Would he keep an additional feat from human, at least? So, humans are the best race (again) for wildshape-fcoused druid?

>>50494331
2hu is 2hu.

>>50494459
He has a point though.

>>50494500
He really doesn't. He's trying to twink out spheres to get an insanely broken blast type.

Force damage is basically the best damage type, and having a no SR force blast is broken

He should just refluff stone blast or something to be 'pure concussive energy' and keep the bludgeoning damage and nobody would bat an eye.

2hu is doing his best to rules lawyer in an optimization edge. Surely you can see that.

still trying to figure out how to make the spiked chain work

anything you got to give /pfg/?

>>50494533
He's got a point that the GM wants to ban it based on FLUFF reasons.

>>50494563
i rather think the GM just simply misspoke, and failed to properly convey his intentions.

We're all human.

>>50494555
Whip.
Whip Mastery.
Improved Whip Mastery.
Done.

>>50494567
>wall of text explaining fluff reasons why it shouldn't happen
vs
>nah, that's too broken

You know 2hu never contested the flat bans on mechanical grounds, right?

>>50494555
well, spiked chain is rather garbage now. Shit damage, shit crit range, ect.

Perhaps you could convince a GM to let you use bladed scarf feats. archetypes with it?

>>50494580
I'm aware, GMs are often trying to be nice.

Honestly this is what really bothers me about 2hu, he should absolutely know what he's trying to do is broken, and he's attempting to pull one over on the GM for his optimization fantasy. Its pretty fucked.

>>50493139
Undead are never a serious threat in my stories because they're so overdone by everyone that they're pointless memes.

Good necromancers who try and use undead for good things are the worst trope ever, right up there with sparklepires and fuckwolfs, because there are no werewolves anymore, just werewolves that fuck, hence, fuckwolves.

Urban Fantasy and Teen Urban Fantasy. What a godawful mess.

>>50494604
i really hate the good necromancer meme too. Its the worst.

>>50494590
>oh no, force damage blasting!
Says /pfg/ while the PoW guy kills monsters a few CR above him in one turn.

>>50494614
Dude its Spheres, while that PoW is killing a monster, a normal spheres blaster can destroy an entire encounter.

>>50493139
Intelligent undead are sometimes neat. Nothing like a Ghoul / Wight initiator to fuck people up.

>>50494620
Horseshit, PoW is always better at killing 1 or 2 big monsters at a time, all day.

All day isn't a meme, you'll have to fight a string of encounters sooner or later.

>>50494629
i didn't claim all day wasn't a meme

I just said that Spheres is destroying entire encounters while PoW murders one big guy.

>>50494457
There is literally no reason to play a druid other than human if you're gonna main wildshapes exactly for that reason.

Also, as a note, Wildshapes are amazing starting at level 5 until level 9, then allow you to keep up until level 11, and by then mostly become utlity. Caster Druids are pretty much the opposite, shit until they get their 5th level spells, then they can keep up with their full caster counterparts.

>>50494636
Spheres doesn't have lolcounters.

>>50494614
I can do that with an unchained monk, either vigilante, or a barbarian. Killing things isn't hard anymore, even for base class martials.

>>50494636
>I just said that Spheres is destroying entire encounters

Have you tried NOT bunching the enemies all together?

>>50494662
Not without pounce you aren't.

>>50494656
Spheres has its own brand of fuckery,

But then again you're the MUH COUNTERS idiot so.

>>50494669
I'm not saying its broken.

I'm just saying that claiming that PoW is broken but spheres is totally fine guis is dumb.

>>50494673
>pounce is hard to get

not anymore

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Is there any module/society book that deals with Drow, that came out recently?

My players will be dealing with a good chunk of drows quite soon, and i'm looking for some fresh content for inspiration. Second Darkness is a bit outdated, and Darklands revisited isn't nearly enough.

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Why does /pfg/ still like PoW and Spheres if it's even easier to smash encounters with them than Paizo characters?

>>50494696
simple

because they're crunchy and fun.

>>50494696
because it lets people do fun weeb shit that the normal system prohibits

and give martials to do some cool shit without devoting their entire class to it.

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>>50494696
Because they're generally more interesting than alternatives. Because they fit a wide variety of concepts. Because they don't come with wild amounts of attached bullshit that is present in lots of paizoshit.

>>50494696
/pfg/ is full of minmax or go home turboautists who like big numbers and can't understand why some people might not be into that. God forbid you express any sort of dislike for DSP anything, prepare for a dicking from the circlejerk.

>>50494724
>literally the first three responses have nothing to do with optimization and big numbers

You've been blown the fuck out anon.

>>50494731
It doesn't make my statement any less true.

>>50494590
>he should absolutely know what he's trying to do is broken

Except he also points out you can do Stone Blast+Unholy Smite even without custom blasts?

Isn't that even more broken?

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Post yfw 'we split'

>>50494736
requires 3 blast talents and three times the spell points and its notable that unholy smite is an advanced blast talent and therefore 100% subject to DM discression

No, its not broken.

Its 1 blast that does amazing shit for one spell point and one talent, vs 3 talents and 3 points.

>>50494735
>people state that they like fun things

>THEY'RE ACTUALLY TURBOAUTISTS WHO LIKE HUGE NUMBERS

>But they all said its about fun

>THEY'RE LYING I AM THE ONE ARBITER OF TRUTH

>>50494751
>3 blast talents
Just Stone Blast and Unholy Smite.
>advanced talent
GM allowed those.

Face it, you'll be blowing the spell point for 150% damage anyway.

>>50494760
Also requires admixture anon.

>>50494755
>>THEY'RE LYING I AM THE ONE ARBITER OF TRUTH

Nowhere did I state they were lying, you illiterate fucking monkey. Nice use of the 'I'M SILLY' argument, by the way, real top stuff.

>>50494769
Well either they're lying or you're wrong.

Which is it anon. Why does /pfg/ like spheres and pow

>>50494762
Unholy Smite

Prerequisites: Destruction sphere, must be of an evil alignment, 1st caster level or higher.

You may spend a spell point to have your destructive blast deal profane damage.

Like hell it does.

>>50494772
I'm not wrong. They're simply the exception.

>>50494790
oh

well thats dumb and probably overpowered, if it was my game i'd disallow it. Profane and Sacred damage shouldn't even be a thing.

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>>50494652
Will this progression still be true if I'd go for Goliath Druid archetype?

>>50494533
One player seemed to be arguing with him, not the GM?

>>50494877
Still autistic as fuck.

>>50494817
If Unholy Smite's allowed, force damage no-SR should also be allowed.

>>50494656
Spheres has motherfucking weather.

Where you'll find the word "mile" next to the word "Radius", following an integer.

>>50494879
Which one, the player?
My bad, two of them.
They're the autistic ones?

>>50494831
I would say yes, if only because Wildshape only becomes weak due to the lack of progression.

You're also trading out the versatility of elementals for the sake of becoming a giant, which, honestly, doesn't open up a lot of options for you besides "I'm gonna fuck shit up"

If you look at the Druid spell list, they basically have few spells that grant them the ability to swim, burron, climb, and in particular fly, all problems easily fixed with the regular wildshape. In particular, turning into a Huge Air Elemental gives you Perfect flight with 100 base speed, nothing to scoff at. You're killing the versatility of wildshape for a melee bonus on a class with slightly inferior spellcasting. Considering you can also turn into Huge animals without that archetype , it becomes even more lackluster when you can't transform into certain animals with better attack patterns for the ability of throwing a really big, nonmagical rock. Consider the fact also that you CAN'T use Enlarge person while wildshaped, and yeah, there's not much of a point. I guess the one advantage this archetype has is that it allows you to keep wielding weapons while wildshape as a Giant.

Honestly profane/sacred damage shouldn't exist

>>50494897
I only agree with you on the grounds that superfluous damage types don't need to exist. But since Pathfinder already uses a large amount of different types of damage, adding two more doesn't really hurt anyone.

>>50494897
Rather, the problem with them is that positive/negative should already be what theyare, and neither case should have a damage bonus like it does built-in.

>>50494934
I mean they would be way less insane if they didn't also do 1.5 against a huge host of monsters that are routinely encountered in play

>>50494945
Exactly yes I agree with you there, the built in damage bonus is a huge mistake

>>50494896
> I guess the one advantage this archetype has is that it allows you to keep wielding weapons while wildshape as a Giant.
Also, armor, Regeneration and no "Natural Spell" feat tax.

>>50494982
All good points, but you'll probably only trade the Natural Spell feat for one that makes you better at combat, and as for armor, I always take the +3 enchant thingy anyway.

It's up to personal choice, I guess. Regular druid gets more versatility out of their forms and 8+ attacks depending on it, while you get to keep your magic items as a giant.

>>50494947
When do you ever fight Good monsters?

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What's a good level three feat for a cleric? I took Improved Initiative at level one to Bless sooner, and my ability scores are 16,14,14,10,14,10. Domains are Heroism and Revelation, with Positive Channeling.

>>50495071
Eh... Selective Channeling?

>>50495071
If you do not pick selective channeling you are a moron.

>>50495022
Evil campaign

>>50495093
Still going to fight evil dudes more often.

>>50495022
How often do you fight Evil things?

>>50495103
Probably not

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>>50495091
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/selective-channeling---final

Nice advice, bruv

>>50495071
>Selective Channeling
Good as a 1st feat. Take it now if you don't have it yet.

After that - you know, with that Str and Dex you can take long spear and Combat Reflexes at level 6. So your first round wouldn't be just wasted on buffing.

Also, Bless is a 5% chance to convert "miss" into "hit" for PC that made an attack that round. It's not big of a deal anyway.

>No CHA
>Selective Channel

That's not Justice

>>50495167
But Bless boosts all the attacking PCs, which is all of them, since even the witch throws bolts and cackles after her initial debuffs. Buffing everyone is nice.

Is there some spell or similar that increases gravity?

I am building an armor suit and would like for it to have an "increase gravity" aura

>>50495176
Oh, right, I missed his stats.

>>50495071
Combat Reflexes + long spear
Start - cast Bless (or better buff later) - move into position - start AOO fishing

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>>50495244
Is it really worthwhile? I read about this Reach business once before.

>>50495460
AOO is, basically, an extra attack(s) you get during your turn. This is good, right?

>>50495460
For a melee character reach and combat reflexes is great because you basically hit everyone around you. If you optimise it you can basically make lots of extra damage or stop other people doing anything.

>>50495460
>>50495493
>>50495494
Reach clerics are good in core only.

Right now, they're just WAAAAAY too damn MAD and shitty.

>>50495519
MAD isn't a concern - his stats are "16,14,14,10,14,10" - he already have necessary str and dex

But anyway, what is good alternative now? For the cost of a single feat

>>50495566
Martial Training I.

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>>50495576
Majority of games outside of /tg/ do not use 3pp.

>>50493139
hey /pfg/.

Do you know of any official or unofficial archetypss/class templates/whatever that let me use dsp's psionic magic system on existing casting classes?

So, clerics/sorcerers/oracles/druids/summonera/wizards/etc with pp and possibly much altered spell lists?

I like the dsp psionic magic system and like the idea of an all dsp campaign, but I want to allow Characters with the non-dsp iconic class features as well, if possible.

Is there anything like that that I could use?

On Psicrystals:

What BAB do they use? It's unlisted, so I assume construct (3/4)

Why no default attack on the entry (3.5 or PF) even tho self-propulsion is a thing

Is it an oversight that they don't get Weapon Finesse?

On a related note, there's a short (13 page?) Psicrystal book from Dreamscarred that just came out

On familiars, pre-level 5:
Do you guys assume they know and can understand Common? Wondering how most tables play it

>>50494679
>not anymore
explain

>>50494679
pow does too much damage before level 6, if that's what he means by broken.

i always start campaigns at 6+ so that doesn't matter to me, but spheres is very good in a rusty dagger shanktown campaign.

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>GM asks me to join his game
>Asks me to break his game
>I show up with something simple, an Orc barbarian with 22 Strength and an Orc double axe because I don't think he's going to have any complex problems to solve
>He tells me I can't play him because the game is CRB only
>MFW
I later asked someone what happened in the game, he said they killed a bear, didnt get paid for it,got kidnapped and are now stuck in a rape dungeon fighting everyone to the death because morale doesn't exist.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/psionic-powers/e/entangling-debris
Does entangling debris restricts movement on failed save, reduce speed in half 2 time or just reduces speed once and gives entagled condition?

>>50495847
You dodged one hell of a bullet

>>50493484
So PFS Organized Play + Horror?

>>50495949
Fail the save and you are stuck
Pass the save and you move half speed

>>50494533
>Force damage is basically the best damage type, and having a no SR force blast is broken
How is "my primary mode of fighting doesn't completely get shut down because 99.9% of end game things in the bestiary resist the fuck out of EVERY OTHER ELEMENT" broken? Especially when you're still doing less damage than a full attacking+boost spamming Path of War martials.

Personally, I'd say "not a char gen" and let the player reasearch it/practice it in game. Maybe have them find some plot item that gives them the ability that would let them use a "True X" blast or something.

>>50496123
Or you can just use Holy/Unholy Smite on a bludgeoning blast.

>>50496130
>not being a true neutral

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WARNING to Hell's Vengeance players!
WARNING to Hell's Vengeance players!

The GM of Hell's Vengeance is the same GM who abandoned Wrath of the Righteous without a word!

Exhibit A: Wrath of the Righteous Roll20, abandoned without warning
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/59608/the-wrath-of-the-righteous

Exhibit B: GM of Wrath of the Righteous saying he made the Hellknight Trabant
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/49799835/#49801635

Exhibit C: GM of new Hell's Vengeance allowing Hellknight Trabant PrC
https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4300556/

Exhibit D: Hellknight Trabant PrC creator having a Ruby Rose themed avatar and username, also having abandoned an old Hell's Vengeance game
http://www.myth-weavers.com/showthread.php?t=351657

Exhibit E: New Hell's Vengeance GM on Roll20 having an RWBY avatar and a fresh account, maybe to flee an old identity on Roll20
https://app.roll20.net/users/1878647/argentum

You have been warned. History will repeat itself and the GM WILL abandon Hell's Vengeance!

>>50496198
How about fuck off?

>>50496198
Or maybe, here's just a thought? He's just new on Roll20 and wanted to try it out? RWBY is pretty popularish among weeb types anyway. That's like saying someone with a fucking DBZ avatar is the same person.

>>50496230
Same RWBY character though, same Hellknight PRC, same Hell's Vengeance, fresh Roll20 account?

Too much of a coincidence.

>>50496258
Again, that's like saying too niggas with a Goku avatar are the same person. I don't know how "popular" this character is, but that still doesn't prove shit.

>>50496289
>same Hellknight PRC, same Hell's Vengeance, fresh Roll20 account?

>>50496289
Two niggas with a Goku avatar telling you to listen to the same underground rapper, I might say "Shiet nigga, you my nigga Leeroy? Mufugga owes me that one time I help him move his momma's couch."

>New guy joins the game
>He plays an Oread barbarian
>Armored hulk or whatever archetype so he can wear full plate
>Uses some custom weapon that's just a fucking halberd but one handed
>Gets a tower shield
>Constantly nat 20sabout everything he does, doesn't roll where everyone can clearly see the dice
>Has at least a +2 in every ability
>His halberd turns people into solid gold when he cuts them by the way
>Constantly yelling and getting mad when people disagree
>Way too fucking loud all the time
>Makes a lot of misogynistic jokes which gets awkward and uncomfortable
>Seriously just cheats all the time, rearranging his skill points, adding random bonuses, saying bullshit like his character is Large or he gets a bonus to hit certain enemies, etc.
I didn't believe these guys were real until today

>>50496298
>>50496258
Even if it is the same person that doesn't guarantee they'll abandon the game. Have you NEVER had plans for a game fall through? How about you give them the benefit of the doubt rather than try to start a witchhunt on /pfg/.

>>50496331
>Have you NEVER had plans for a game fall through?
I mean, abandoning a game without saying fucking ANYTHING is pretty bad. But this cyberstalking is pretty fucking creepy.

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>>50496258
It's enough to be suspicious.
It certainly would not be the first time we get fakegame...

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>>50496352
When was the first time we got fakegamed?

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>>50496370
RotJR

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>>50496198

Anon please, everyone knows the easiest way to flee an old identity on Roll20 is change your avatar profile and user name.

>>50496404
Hours are still the same, forum posts are still the same, and they still reflect the changes.

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>>50496404
No, because you'll still have the same user number, number of games and hours logged, achievements, etc. etc.

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>>50496378
Th-This is a joke, right?

>>50496378

DELETE THIS

>>50496434
Too big to fail, etc etc

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>>50496478
But what happens when it DOES fail?

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>>50496434
Honestly, if I was the GM, I'd be pretty intimidated by all the people I'd have to GM for and would be worried about making some people unhappy, so might just drop it entirely because of stage fright.

But that's just me!

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>>50496502

>But what happens when it DOES fail?

>>50496512
He only needs to take on as many people as he feels comfortable with. Besides with 80 people some will drip, at this point I feel a lot of this is just guys who want to observe.

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>>50496577
>Besides with 80 people some will drip

>Some will drip

Oh frickin' heck you *animal.*

>>50496502
Well at least we had fun along the way.

>>50496596
There was only one animal, and it was a boy animal!

>>50496608
>Well at least we had fun along the way.
imfuckinplying

>>50496608
>Well at least we had fun along the way.
And the bloated corpses of dozens of threads fallen to RotJRposting.

>>50496512
>so might just drop it entirely because of stage fright
Nah, it's running, If I have to do one game of 5 and drop everyone else, then they're going to have to deal with greentexts.

>>50496650
Take 2hu as a player and watch 80% of the applicants drop.

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Hell's Vengeance? Oh good, I can post my character again!

Yori Rilsane, Sphere Cleric (Asmodean Advocate) || Unchained Rogue (Hidden Blade, Rake, Scout)

>asura-spawn tiefling born to the Sarinis
>grows up, trained to be a jester
>hates it, doesn't want to be in the circus
>she watches The Six Trials of Larazod
>it inspires her, she wants a better life
>a life in service to Asmodeus
>she wants to be a lawyer
>a viper whispers to her at night
>convinces her to run away from home to study law
>shows her how to turn invisible so she can sneak away
>she sneaks off to an Asmodean monastery
>legally changes her last name to Rilsane
>trains there for decades
>she's not too bright, but she's canny
>she picks it up eventually
>Asmodean priests teach her how to out lawyer everyone
>her viper teaches her how to fight
>she completes her education and they send her off
>the Adventures of Yori, Traveling Murder Lawyer

>>50496664
I could, but no.

>>50496677
>implying you're the GM

>>50496669
Are you ready to get fakegamed?

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>>50496689
Maybe, maybe not.

>>50496705
Absolutely! My skype game is falling apart fast, and I still haven't worked up the courage to send out the emails for an IRL game, so what's one more disappointment?

https://app.roll20.net/join/1816336/n5VZkg

Ya'll niggas wanna get real gamed? I'd still like at least another person for Mummy's Mask. Shit ain't gestalt or an excuse to jack off during character creation, but it's a real game starting up in 2 weeks

Real quick rules question.

If I cast a spell that makes me immune to bleed damage, then cast a spell that inflicts bleed to myself as a cost,is the spell basically free, or does it not go off?

>>50496630
>>50496634
>implying you didn't make your own bed when you screamed any acual discussion out of the thread
>Implying "muh overPOWered" and "SPHERES IS BROKEN IF YOU TWINK IT LIKE AN ASSHOLE" is a better topic
>Implying shit like the kitsune shota foxboy buttslut crossdressing trap posting that we had before was better

The shitposting is obnoxious, but don't pretend that it was somehow worse than how the thread always is.

>>50496751
No..? You cast the bleed spell with whatever costly components are needed, and it fails because your immune.

Why the hell are you asking this?

>>50496724
Are you or aren't you?

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>>50496755
Has anyone ever ACTUALLY made a kitsune shota foxboy crossdressing trap?

For serious, in a real game.

>>50496776
I am

>>50496608
>Well at least we had fun along the way.

Thread after thread after thread after thread of NOTHING but that fucking game. And when people told you to take it elsewhere you all just went "HUSH YOU JUST HATE FUN"

>>50496780
I think someone mentioned they were trying, but they couldn't figure out a way to play the character straight and have it be a joke because of how changing gender is so inexpensive or something

>>50496608
>Fun
Fuck you it was awful

>>50496789
Who do you like the best so far?

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>>50496773
I dont think you understand what im saying. The bleed effect to myself is only PART of another spell. give me a sec, ill give you the examples I mean.

stanch - 1st level wiz/sorc spell.
You are immune to bleed effects. If you are currently bleeding, stop bleed effect.

and pic attached.

>>50496822
Honestly not sure, it doesn't say you need to bleed or if the spell fails if your immune to bleed or not, GG to whoever wrote that one.

I'd say it's up to your gm in the end but honestly I'd say if your immune to bleed it'd still work, at least till your immunity ends.

>>50496780
See >>50496797
I tried really fucking hard, but I am not hardcore enough of a degenerate to wrap my head around why the fuck a literal shapeshifter, with access to solutions which could easily change their "true sex" (or whatever the term is now) after a short bit of adventuring, would EVER do that shit. There was almost no in-universe reason to play it straight, and no non-fetishy way whatsoever to play it straight. The best I could figure was a "fox tries to integrate into society disguised as a child, but they were raised 'wrong'. Nobody ever bothered to correct it." background, but it just didn't work well enough to jump off from.

>>50496818
Been trying to avoid most of it in order to keep an open mind once applications officially open (and to avoid influencing people's character creation choices). A lot of the character interactions that people have been throwing around are really cute though, and it's been making my job harder.

I know I'm avoiding the question but it's legitimately hard to choose

>>50496893
>Something to degenerate even for /pfg/
My god it finally happened

>>50496893
It's not about being one sex or another. Its about being a trickster. Its about tricking men into thinking your a girl only to spring that trap on them.

This is why you're a cross dressing kitsune.

The shota part can fuck right the hell off though.

>>50496901
Could you at least give people an idea of your tastes? What you're looking for would/want in a party?

>>50496734
When, exactly, is it? It doesn't say what time it starts

>>50496893
There are a few ways to go about playing a trap, an actual trap, you can play a chaotic creature that loves to lie and hates people, you can play a conman who's handy with any kind of disguise, or you can play a degenerate weab who hopes senpai doesn't hate him when he reveals to be a faggot pretending to be a girl.

>>50496995
That's up in the air ATM depending on how many eurofags I get, as it stands it's likely to be on the weekend as I only get like a month off in between jobs.

>>50496976
Ideally I'd want a balance of different types of characters, both in mechanics and characterization. Someone before posted different "teams" like Team CUTE, Team JUSTICE, LEWD, SERIOUS, and ADVENTURE. I'd want one from each. Then also match skill-sets for a well-rounded party (but gestalt, so that should be easy) and from there figure out which characters seem to mesh the best together.

Or just run Rise of the Kaijitsu.

>>50497025
Also, im guessing voice isn't required or anything like that, right?

>>50497072
People are autistic AF in /pfg/ so few people like to use voice

>>50496962
>>50497007
See, the challenge was playing the kitsune meme straight. "Just be a trickster" is, in and of itself, an entirely different matter, because that lends itself to reasonable concepts. It also falls under "you are a shapeshifter, dumbass".

>>50497092
When is the game set to end? I'd there going to be more after we've raided the buried city, or is it just a one off?

>>50497142
Mummy's Mask is an adventure path.

>>50497051
The real question is, who is your favorite OTP?

>Rise of the Kaijitsu

Fire Emblem Incest arc when?

>>50497092
Fuck that.
I can deal with typing out what my pc says, but if I have to wait for the GM to type out everything he has to say ooc to me or other players, I'm out.

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>>50496780
Well, I know YOU have, definitely.

>>50497203
Again, hard to pick.

That depends on if people are into that
Also if including Corwin or another similar character is a good idea for more Kaijitsu hijinks

>>50496370
couple of times last year but that's just the ones I personally fell victim to.

Let's count the witch hunts, shall we?

2hufag, for being the autism;
DHB, for being the NTR;
and now the HVGM for tenuous links to a previous failed game.

Who's next, pfg? How many must burn?

>>50497473
Next we hunt all fox-posters, then we hunt overPoWered people and finally we will purge all 3pp in general. A new regime shall rise in /pfg/ where no weeaboo fagness shall be tolerated. They will be deported to /a/ and /d/. Burn the 3pp hardcovers, turn fox-posters into soap and any waifufags shall be send off to paizo.com for a "temporary work replacement program".

Heil (path)Finder.

>>50497508
First they came for the homebrewers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a homebrewer.

Then they came for the kitsune posters, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a kitsune poster.

Then they came for the GMs, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a GM.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

>>50497473
>How many must burn?

Yes.

>>50497411
Well if you can't tell us your favorites, can you tell us your opinion of the racial and gender spread? Got an awful lot of humans and ladies in the charthread.

>that spoiler
dam son, u cray

What's the current list of known ROTJR characters and their breakdown by race/gender, anyway? I know someone was collecting statistics and I'm always interested in seeing that sort of stuff.

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>>50497473
THIS WORLD AND ALL YOU HOLD DEAR EXIST ONLY TO BURN

>>50497587
Honestly, could use a few more dudes as far as gender goes. I think the split is still 2:1 female:male, which means a deficit of poles to dance on if you catch my meaning
I don't think anyone has taken any of the pole dancer feats, which is a failing in double entendres

>>50497590
Yeah, did the breakdown a while ago. Let me see if I can find it.

9 Male, 21 Female.
9 Human (5 Male, 4 Female), 4 Aasimar (All Female), 2 Skinwalker (Both Female), 2 Tiefling (Both Female), 2 Half-elf (Both Female), 1 Dhampir (Female), 1 Kitsune (Male), 1 Android (Female), 1 Half-giant (Male), 1 Oread (Female), 1 Ethumion (Female), 1 Changeling (Female), 1 Obitu (Male), 1 Spider (actually a human) (Female), 1 Ratfolk (Female), 1 Halfling (Male).

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>>50497649
>Still no Sylphs

>Injection Spear
This exotic two-handed weapon allows the user to inject targets with liquid on a successful hit. The spear’s reservoir can hold up to 5 doses of a single fluid—a single dose is automatically injected when the spear deals damage. A non-proficient user can wield an injection spear as a standard spear but cannot trigger the injection. An injection spear is otherwise identical to a normal spear, save that it weighs 8 pounds, cannot be thrown or used to brace, and costs 60 gp.

Is it good or is it shit, /pfg/?

Question:
What's aging like for a half-troll, half-elf?
I could just use a normal half-elf's age chart, but I feel like trolls live pretty long too, no?

So my Umonk moves at mach 3 without counting magic items or spells cast, what do I get from this?

>>50496198
nice try to get into the campaign yourself while others quit.

7/10

>>50497733
A bunch of damage as things hit you with AoOs.
Enjoy.

>>50497634

Anon please! That just means the female players might have to share.

>>50497703
I've already got one character, Song Lilin, but I'm working on a weak professor type, maybe an Investigator || Sage Sphere Sorcerer. I might make him a Sylph.

>>50497716
Trolls have the giant subtype, and half-giants, while not as long living as elves, still age slowly. I'd say use something in between, maybe the Ifrit's.

>>50497709
Make it fragile and you're set.

>>50497709
It could be okay if you could get the exotic proficiency for free from somewhere and actually have good liquids to use (I suggest magma, nitrogen, or that bubbly brownish liquid that eats clean through your Gravity+Varia suit combination in lower Norfair and Tourian)

Like, it could be of use to an alchemist or someone that can make good use of poisons, but it's gonna be forgettable shit if the best you can do is dump a vial of holy water in the thing.

Rather, I've armed most of the party's mook followers with swords to that effect (with a small selection of vials); it doesn't do much and they'll never keep up with the party, but if they need to defend themselves it at least ensures they A) CAN cause a bit more damage so against equal mook forces they'll have a dangerous upper-hand, and B) you can't simply say "well since it was immune to their weapons they're all dead" when they go do something and run into opposition. They've been given one dose each of each of the regen negators (fire,acid,holy,alkaline,silversheen, the blade's cold-iron) short of adamantium.

But the partymember with a +6 adamant weapon has no need for those things and would be wasting his actions even if installing it's a swift.

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>>50497411

RotJR confirmed to be Corwin+Kaijitsu Sisters.

>>50497783
>maybe the Ifrit's.
This looks pretty good to me, thanks anon.

>>50497709
www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/spear-syringe

A very similar concept already exists, and it's a martial weapon

>>50497411
Casimir a best.

>>50496893
Crossdresser =/= transgender

I like dressing up as a girl and confusing people, but I don't wanna be a girl.

t. IRL crossdresser

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>>50497798
>>50497805
>>50497812
You misunderstand

>>50497411
>Also if including Corwin or another similar character
What did he mean by this?

>>50497755
I mean you're not wrong, but variety is the spice of life.

>>50496804
>>50496792
>>50496634
>>50496630
Ah, the surest signs of people who realized that the threads actively became worse once RotJR discussion moved somewhere else. Funny, isn't it?

>>50497876
Corwin specifically mentioned fucking Ameiko previously in his backstory.

>>50497891

Really? Because I did a quick looksee at his backstory again and he doesn't have any explicit mention of exploring Ameiko's Path of Aganhei.

>>50497877

Variety is the spice of life but too much spice will ruin the dish.

>>50497861
Why does that exist? The only differences between that and the syringe spear are reach, proficiency requirements, and range increments.

What would Gestalt well with a Gambler Kineticist? I've got no idea how the Kineticist works, so I was wondering if people have any ideas while I puzzle my way through it.

>>50497915
Doesn't a syringe spear only hold one dose?

>>50497634
Well, I was debating tossing in a potential alt, but it feels wrong to count side characters. Especially when that side character is set to have two versions to account for potential houserules, and is also two characters at once in both versions.

>>50497910
TOO MANY KAIJITSUS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8&ab_channel=AdultSwim

>>50497411
As one of the Kaijitsu Sisters, I think that having only two instead of all... what is it now, five? Of the PC Kaijitsus would do best. EVERYONE being a sister would be very confusing very quickly, also probably boring!

I'd like to throw in my vote and say that Corwin, Casimir, and Gil would all be wonderful party members to have!

>tfw the halfling is too bland

oh

>>50497944
There are three Kaijitsu applicants, since Akane's player switched.

Onryou, Shizuka, Kanela.

>>50497930
Syringe Spears hold one dose, take 1 minute to refill, and cost 100gp, but they're 2H martial weapons with Brace that can be thrown.

Gonna start selecting people for Hell's Vengeance soon, already got a few people in mind. I'd like to get an early start, so if any applicants from here can have their characters in by this Sunday, that would be amazing. I'll need about a week to prep things, so hopefully we can get an,early start a week from this Tuesday.

Gregor poster, this is somewhat directed at you. I kinda want to accept you to the game, but I don't have a backstory to evaluate yet.

>>50497944
>tfw my guy isn't mentioned.

>>50497944
Shizuka?

>>50497733
That's some kinetic energy, sadly this system handless it like shit. Nice double dubs btw.

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>>50497962

>Awkward bookish librarian
>Spunky love-sick Dojo smasher
>Slutty voluptuous older sister

>>50497944
>You will never get caught with the silly nerd Kaijitsu dozing on your shoulder after the two of you pulled an all-nighter

Why even live

>>50493484
Disregard Pathfinder, play Delta Green.

>>50498087
>tfw can't even afford a 45 retirement plan

why even live

Who would be the best Team Mom put of all the RotJR applicants? Team Dad? Team Little Sister?

>>50498098
>No team little brothers

>>50498111
Team Big Brother is better

>>50498111
There are like 9 dudes and all of them are at least 20 except khair and the halfing.

>>50498126
The hafling is actually 30.

>>50498098
>Team Dad goes to Casimir, hands down
>Little sister goes either to Shizuka or Amandia, with Arahna squeezing in as well
>Team mom goes to Gil using his shapeshifting, because fuck thiccposters

>>50498134
Oh shit really?

>>50498154
Yeah, really. Halflings become adult a bit older than humans do, but 30 is still like mid 20s for them.

>>50498134

>Cue scene where Halfling angrily explains how old he is to the party member that got a touch too Ara Ara with her Otouto.

>>50498126

Khair's updated backstory has him at 24, actually, mostly because the trip to Numeria I added to explain where he got some of his skills.

>>50496734
are the 4 winds gaming 3rd party feats greenlit?

>>50498111
Khair, Omza, Gil, Ricktor, Grayson, Bartran, Corwin, Casimir, Roku. Khair is sorta suited for being little brother, but none of the others.

>>50498164
Fuck what is with male applicants and being 24?
Because now I think that puts all of the human males, except Casimir at 24.

>>50497971
>early start for vengance
>literally boarding the aircraft for a month long holiday right now

shiiiiiiiit

>>50498177

Leaving home at 16, call it a year's trip by boat and caravan taking a longer, but safer, route to Numeria; 17. Four years there looking for his parents, 21. Three years fighting back through the badlands and the Hold, that's 24.

>>50498150

Team Mom is probably Svana, but holy shit would I want to see Amalthea for the adorable greentexts between her and Casimir.

>>50498194
>If you get in, you can always join the game a bit late. The sessions are maybe gonna be 4 hours long, and you'll only miss 2, at most 4 If I can wrangle more free time to GM.

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>>50498150
>spoiler

>>50498210
Honestly, I don't know why people bother asking about who would be "team mom" when there are like, three characters whose main gimmick is being the team mom.

>>50498177
Caelum is 56.

Not sure if he counts, though, his backstory is unfinished.

>>50498260
>three characters whose main gimmick is being the team mom.

I guess it's just a way to figure out which mom is mommier than the other moms.

I've only read one or two of them, but do any of the adventure paths actually make you a pathfinder or even mention them?

>>50498172
Team Big Brother then?

>>50498301
That's easier. Grayson for skeltal brother, Roku for BIG big brother.

>>50498298
>but do any of the adventure paths actually make you a pathfinder or even mention them?

I'm 80% sure Shattered Star features a major NPC as a Pathfinder happily married to another Pathfinder.

>>50498298
Being a Pathfinder is part of your character's backstory.

The exception is, every PFS players' characters are members of the Pathfinder Society.

>>50498111
Once I finish making my guy, there will be. He's 19, has confidence issues, built like an oxe, and loves helping people and being useful. He's also an amateur fortune teller.

>>50498298
Shattered Star lets you be part of the Pathfinder Society, I think? I mean, you at least work with them. If your GM doesn't retcon the pathfinders to not be a shitty organization, he's doing something wrong though.

>>50498309
She's heterosexual, and her husband doesn't die, too! Unless there's some hidden shit I don't know about.

>>50498257
Thanks for the consideration! If I make the cut, I'll do my best to join in on things!

Can I get a link to RotJR? Archives are a pain to go through.

>>50498366

Here you go, friend!

https://app.roll20.net/join/1770733/2aujeQ

So a minor and kind of odd question relevant to a campaign I'm soon running since it's Devil-heavy; what's the demonym/adjective for someone or something from Dis? You know, the Iron City, second of the Nine Hells and all that?

Dissian? Disite?

>>50498377
Disonian?

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>tfw you know you wont be accepted into the /pfg/ HV game

Would you play the following: URogue+Barbarian Hybrid Class, with a bit of Oracle mixed in. Based (almost) entirely around 1pp mechanics, so no initiating, spheres, or psionics, mind you. Main mental stat is either Wis or Cha, and its main gimmick is that instead of getting Finesse, it has Brutal Slayer's Str-to-AC/Reflex

>>50498638
I'm making my peace with RotJR.

>>50497971

HV-Anon, you made a great emphasis on Appearance being a thing in the campaign, but can you tell us how it will be used in a typical session? Will it be used for things like general conversational tones or potential romantic partners and/or fuckbuddies? How is sex going to be handled in that game, anyway? Last I checked the books were awfully barren on cute girls or guys.

>>50498638
Which guy are you?

>>50496198
seems like bullshit. Fuck yourself.

Why is the Shackles such a shit region?

>>50498834

Pirates. And fucking fish people.

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>>50498860
That doesn't seem so bad.

>>50498150
>rinka doesn't get on team little sister

kill me now.

>>50498638
We've all made our peace

>>50498887
She's more like an obnoxious younger cousin, or that boisterous childhood friend next door.

>>50496198
1. None of this proves anything

2. Even if it is true, as long as he runs this one, i don't care

3. Even if it doesn't happen, then its just another fakegame, fakegames are fakegames. Has happened before, will happen again

So who cares.

>>50498909

>Boisterous chuuni childhood friend

That just makes me want to tease her constantly.

>>50498298
You can become a Pathfinder in Serpent's Skull.

>>50498172
Are there really only 9 male characters?

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>>50498947
I want to bully that rat!

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>>50498909
How is she not a daughteru what did i do wrong

>>50498682
Initial reactions of people to your character, how easily they can be persuaded to get down and dirty with it and whether or not they end up enjoying things if you force things.

>>50498960
do not bully the chuunis

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>>50498879

>>50498967

Chuuni are explicitly designed for bully, their entire existence rests on the fact someone is going to grab their meager little wrists and make them smack themselves.

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>>50498879

It never does at first, but it inevitably leads to a breakdown in discipline aboard this ship.

>>50498959

Yuuuuuup, and one of them wants to turn into a sexy robo-lady.

>>50498959
Yup.

>>50498967

Even if you love them and just want to see their cute, flustered faces?

>>50498998
What do the others want?

>>50498998
>>50498999
Honestly I'd prefer a party with an even split down the sexes.

>>50499034
One of them wants NTR.

>>50497962
Oh I see, I must have miscounted then.
>>50497972
Your character is almost assuredly a fun one too! I apologize if I forgot!
>>50497999
>>50498056
Yes, that's me.

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>>50498961
>>50498967
Are you afraid someone is going to eat her alive?

>How is she not a daughteru
To be perfectly honest, a character I'm playing around with would probably be the kind of person to view her like that. How does she feel about Sexy Demonspawn?

>>50499034
To rise through the Sczarni ranks!

Is it a problem that I find Ricktor's backstory, arc, and motivations most interesting? I don't know he just seems to have a lot going for him other characters don't.

Though I really like self discovery stories so I may be biased.

>>50498961

You made her too adorably weird. Now people are going to want to take her to festivals or listen to her talk about her research.

>>50496198

Evidence that this is not true

Exhibit A: Radically different chargen rules, WotR GM had rules against dumping and pumping stats. Dropping this would be odd, as well as the PB changes

Exhibit B: Radically different feat-tax rules, specifically HV GM seems to be aware of a much better feat tax ruleset than WotR GM ever had

Exhibit C: Completely different layout of the campaign homepage for applicants, its very strange for someone to change that

But hey, here's the most damning one to your bullshit

Exhibit D: Writing

Now as much as people may try, their writing style is one of the most identifiable things out there

And since I applied to both games, I've read enough of both of their writing and how they phrase things... They quite simply can't be the same person. They just aren't.

>>50499109
What I'm saying is I think the NTR memes ruined a good character.

>>50498959
No, I messed it up, there are actually 10 now.

10 Men - Khair, Omza, Casimir, Gil, Corwin, Roku, Ricktor, Grayson, Bartran, Caelum.
21 Women - Onryou, Lilin, Shizuka, Anja, Silvia, Amandia, Keva, Aster, Amalia, Togeko, Nixia, Svana, Amalthea, Kanela, Zeldana, Aranha, Agatha, Rinka, Viviana, Karathi, Maxima.
10 (11) Humans - Khair, Omza, Anja, Casimir, Corwin, Ricktor, Amalthea, Agatha, Viviana, Caelum, technically Aranha.
4 Aasimar - Lilin, Nixia, Kanela, Zeldana.
2 Tieflings - Onryou, Maxima
2 Skinwalkers - Silvia, Svana.
2 Half-elves - Togeko, Karathi.
1 Dhampir - Shizuka.
1 Kitsune - Gil.
1 Android - Amandia.
1 Half-giant - Roku.
1 Oread - Keva.
1 Ethumion - Aster.
1 Changeling - Amalia.
1 Obitu - Grayson.
1 Ratfolk - Rinka.
1 Halfling - Bartran.

In total, 31 applicants, spread out over 2 genders and 15 races.

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So last session my shifter (spheres) turned himself large, gave himself wings, and shifted into his themed wolf form (big flying wolf, essentially) and gave a ride to the entire party to board an enemy airship.

Spheres is pretty good.
Surprised I only learnt of this system lately.
Not much people mention it here, for some reason, at least compared to PoW.

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>>50499167

>>50499113

Do you think Rinka would look cute in a dress?

Which woman would look the best in a dress?

Rather than clogging up threads with huge lists, I'll just have a piratepad I update with the new breakdowns.

http://piratepad.net/kl8lVS8wmw

Honestly i'm still hoping RotJR party becomes a doujin of Konosuba

What i'm saying is one of you bastards needs to make a Kazuma already

>Gm throws at us non combat encounters that can only be solved with STAT checks
>Fail like half of them
>Get fatigued because we didn't pass CON check (instead of Fort)
>Gain no xp because they were encounters for 1st level chars and we're 9th level chars
I'm fucking out of here

>>50499291
>person who wants to become a hero ends up stuck in the mundane daily grind, despite finding himself in a new world

Anon, we already have a literal animal

>>50499304
Stat checks are the worst.

/pfg/, what is the best Adventure Path to start with for a new DM?

I've been playing for a little over a year now, and due to schedule change at work, I have another group of friends that is interested in playing but have 0 experience playing. Its going to be 3-4 players.

>>50499315
very well, what about our Aqua.

>>50499327
rise of the runelords

>>50499304
You should ask your GM to do skill challenges instead.

>>50496780
Not kitsune but here, have the description of my blinkling shota trap maid. The sheet is nearly done and will hit R20 in few days.

>Most people looking at Shiro for the first time see a soft-spoken, fair-skinned and slender little lady. Shiro's dog ears and similary canine bushy tail mixed with a traditional maid uniform, nicely tied hair and well-mannered disposition only add to the charm and make the inevitable reveal all the more shocking. For Shiro is, in fact, a man, and he will politely inform of such anyone mistakenly taking him for a girl. It really is a shame and great injustice that eyes so golden and bright must belong to a man but such is life. Most of Sandpoint's inhabitants learned long ago about the Kajitsu household's peculiar manservant and got accustomed to it, anyway. What most people don't know is that Shiro can manifest a golden psionic aura around his person and congeal it into a panoply of variously sized flying blades of the same color. He can then propel the blades with his will. Curiously, they make a clear, almost-melodic sound while cutting through the air. He does this only in need and when it arises his person transfroms from a simple, diminutive servant into a supremely focused and graceful combatant. Other times he is perfectly content with using his powers as a crutch for his height or for manifesting only brooms and other utensils.

>>50499198

Anon, the one who'd look best in a dress is obviously the one you love the most.

>>50499329
Smug but secretly a mess? Anja, I'd say.

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>>50499349
Me, obviously!

>>50499291
I really hope it doesn't. I think that'd be awful.

>>50499198
In my opinion, dresses are complimented by modest chests best.

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>>50499167
The reason why PoW gets mentioned more often is because, a lot of the time, players want to play warrior types in fantasy settings. My entire circle of friends likes martials over mages - some like the big strong guy archetype, some like having good personal protection, and two of us (including myself) are weapons nerds that feel more comfortable describing our characters in a good set of gear than robes.

there's also the fact that a lot of people simply don't see the need for a new magic system. As shitty as the martial/caster disparity is, PoW closes that gap already, and allows martials to do some things that mages simply cannot (such as the build I whipped up that can solo linnorms come level 15). Very few people actually want to nerf casters - far more want to buff martials up to a point where they can contribute.

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>>50499355
>Aqua
>secretly a mess

She's more like just a different kind of Chuuni, desu

>>50499348
Please put it in a fire and never think about it again, I think I got retinal cancer from looking at that. Especially since it's yet another motherfucker inextricably tied to to Kaijitsus.

>>50499198

I unironically think Song Lilin would easily take the laurel crown as Harvest Queen; put that woman in a green dress and her fiery red hair, shapely limbs and complete lack of a chest will put her on the fast track to drawing the eye of every eligible bachelor there.

>>50499368
Agreed, larger chests are better suited for tight-fitting sweaters and other coverings that ironically only emphasize their size despite being very concealing.

I think there are some very valid arguments over a lack of balance in PoW. I think these arguments often get ignored and drowned out by people trying to shift the arguments into safer territory (such as shouting "but full casters can do X").

I don't think we should use PoW at a point of balance any more than we should use full casters.

>>50499405
Or no covering at all.

>>50499291
So who are the other guys?

>>50499198
>>50499399
>implying it won't be crossdressing NToRacle
>implying he won't NTR you out of the crown
>implying he won't then give the crown to Ameiko

>>50499416

Well, when you get right down to it, there really isn't much of a point of balance in the entire system.

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>>50499416
(you)

>>50499425
That's lewd, anon.

>>50499416
Don't start this again, baka.

>>50499398
I haven't actually watched Konosuba. Rinka's the described chuuni, but Aster is sorta chuuni as well.

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>>50499405
>>50499368

>They don't appreciate the beauty of a busty chick in a deep V dress

Sideboob >>> Underboob.

>>50499380
Well, I completely understand.
I just find it a well designed system (beyond weather, gods what the fuck) that should be appreciated more, and could actually give more flavourful options to mage players or mageknight players