Quick question for /tg/: What options exist for cowboy&indian

>>50446629
Deadlands

No experience with it, but Deadlands sounds like exactly what you're talking about.

>>50446629
>I've heard mixed results about bringing firearms into d&d/pathfinder systems.

Generally it's a bad idea, the abstract nature of the combat system and HP doesn't mesh well with firearms.

There are a number of wild west themed RPGs out there, though, and several have magic and such. Deadlands is the big name, but others include Wild Cards, Go Fer Yer Gun, Aces and Eights, Blood and Bullets, Boot Hill, and Tombstones 'n Tumbleweeds.

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>>50446682
>>50446688
Thank ye kindly

Any nerds on this board have experience with Deadlands?

>>50446629
No yeah, forget GURPS.
Just refluff PF.

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>>50446734

>refluff PF

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>>50446717
Depending on your preferred kind of storytelling, Call of Cthulhu might work as well. If I remember right, 7th edition has background for the period.

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>>50446790
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>>50446715
DnD 5e has, at least in the games I've been a part of so take that with a grain of salt, done firearms alright. Much better HP and damage scaling means that firearms (which tend towards double dice in damage) are incredibly potent in any game where they appear.

Again, personal anecdote so it doesn't always work out that way. But whatever.

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>>50447029
So you've had positive experience using firearms in 5e, have you been in groups/settings that used them in other editions?
Additionally, what time-period weapons were you using?

As for pure non magical wild west:
Aces & Eights
Gunslingers & Gamblers
Boot Hill
Dogs in the Vineyard

Wild west with supernatural shit:
Deadlands
Call of Cthulhu


And if you don't mind using a generic framework for your combat then:
Ops & Tactics
Phoenix Command
GURPS

>>50447171
>And if you don't mind using a generic framework for your combat
Phoenix Command actually has a Wild West sourcebook

>>50447109
We used 5e's Modern Firearms, but as a substitute for blasters in a Star Wars hack.

Everyone was reasonably good with them due to proficiency, and the extra damage made things feel very lethal and "cowboy"ish. At one point the ex-Republic Commando in the group walked down a hallway spraying stormtroopers with a heavy repeater (refluffled automatic rifle) and generally being badass while defying dice rolls that could have killed him if any of them managed to land. It was a good game.

I've also used Pathfinder rules for firearms. Pretty deadly as well depending on the types of firearms and rules. We had a campaign set in Throne from Kill Six Billion Demons, and our resident gunslinger changeling ninja made good use (read: 200+ damage a turn) of some enchanted revolvers.

Honestly, the rules are fine. I mean, as fine as D20 can manage, but...

>>50447171
Dogs in the Vineyard has supernatural elements.

Spirits and demons and such.

>>50447281
>Dog In The Vineyard

Cool system, but actually has a very little focus on actual combat as such. Much like an actual Westen most of its just about standing around and posteing

>>50447177
So does GURPS, if you want to go that way.
And I'm sure O&T does too.

>>50446629
Use Deadlands Reloaded if you're going to use Deadlands. The old system is a mess.

There is a Savage Lands Deadlands, yeah?

Anyone use it? good/bad?

>>50446629
Dogs in the Vineyard

>>50450059
Yeah, that's Reloaded. And yeah it's good.

Could do some stuff in Shadowrun in SSC territory. Have the Cowboy way martial art and go around as a funslinger vs injun wizards.