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Would it be even remotely possible to have an EVE Online based game? Not necessarily space wizard floating in a piss capsule either.
Been doing some reading and the setting has a ton of great shit man.
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>>50420035
>space setting

Rogue trader
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Maybe Eclipse Phase would work?
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How was the first suggestion not Traveller?

or GURPS?
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>>50420035
EVE Online itself is barely a game.
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>goonswarm
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>Would it be even remotely possible to have an EVE Online based game

Yes.

Traveller, GURPS, maybe Rogue Trader, hell, even Battletech: A Time of War could work.

Hardest bit, I think, would be if you decided to have it contemporary to the real-time game setting, managing to keep up with what's going on there. Set it a little earlier and it could work easier. .
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>>50422988
>All those bubbles
Fuck
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>>50422516

What do you do in EVE anon when you play it?
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>>50423011
(you)
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>>50423019
play war thunder while logged in to a VOIP client waiting for someone else to tell me I need to log in.
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anyone got any eve stories? love hearing about this game
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>>50422988
>I was there.

>>50427408
I've got a couple worth telling, I'll type them up when I get home.

>>50420035
Yeah, easily. I ran a short game a while back using Traveler. It worked ok, the group started off on a space station at the edge of low sec right at the outset of faction warfare, got their hands on an old Kestrel frigate and started searching for an abandoned pirate outpost they heard rumors about. Game fizzled due to my job offering me lots of money to take a promotion that fucked my schedule. Shit was fun while it lasted.
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>>50422988
>I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Goons on fire off the shoulder of the fortizar.

>>50428591
Sounds like it'd be fun, the setting's so good I'm surprised there's not a pnp game dedicated to it.
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>>50427408
I got some stories.

Way back when I first started playing the game, my corporation was living in Amarr highsec space. We had some jumping-off points into lowsec and also declared war on people to get fights.

Anyways, there was this one guy who lived in our system. For some reason I don't remember, he started shit-talking our corp. Being miffed at this and eager to prove our superiority to the carebear peasants, our CEO demanded that this guy's CEO kick him from their corp. Other CEO said no, so we blew up a few of their starbases until they complied.

Even after he got kicked, though, this guy would just be a shitter in local chat non-stop. We ended up getting him kicked from the next corp he joined, too.

The cherry on top was, right before we moved out of the region to go fuck around in Caldari lowsec, we set a trap for him. One of our guys had a kill right for him on another character, and we managed to get him to join someone's fleet to go "run a mission."

Of course, we actually just warped him out to deadspace, turned on the killright, and murdered him. The salt was high-quality.
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>>50420035
Remember that story about a guy who stole 13000$ worth of money out of the bank his guild owned, spent half of it on the biggest baddest spaceship he could buy, and the other half on a bounty on his own head?

Fun fact: that's not the only (or not even the biggest) story of that nature in EVE.

http://evenews24.com/2015/03/02/vanguard-frontiers-600-billion-isk-heist/
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>>50428682
It's a great scifi setting, unfortunately it's not well known and the majority of players pay zero attention to the story and don't go digging into the lore.

Alright, taking requests for first story
>Anon almost wrecks a Nightmare
>Flight of the lolnado
>Wormhole'ing
>Anon starts a war
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>>50429180
>Anon starts a war
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>>50426315
Well there's your problem. If you just wait for someone else to make your fun, you are gonna have a bad time.
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>>50428591
I guess it's time to read up on Traveler then.
What is or how do you find a good corp anyhow?
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>>50429043
Was this guy named Yorlock by chance?
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>>50429278
No, Raven Madder IIRC.
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>>50429235
This is an old one, maybe 5 or 6 years back.
>Anon Starts A War
>Late evening my time, the alliance aussies are just getting on.
>Hanging out in lowsec on the edge of Syndicate. Keeping half an eye on alliance chat, something is up but as it doesn't directly concern me at the moment I'm not paying too much attention.
>Decide to go looking for trouble, I'm bored and may have been drinking a bit.
>Talk a bro into coming with me, and off we go.
>Lowsec is surprisingly dead that evening, turn towards Syndicate.
>GATE TRAFFIC AHEAD.
>Boost into position and spin up the mods.
>Four ships decloaked and align towards the gate we just came from. We got this.
>Targets called, jammers active, guns live!
>Manage to pop three of the ship, the fourth breaks the scrambles and get away.
>High five and laughter, start looking the wrecks.
>Suddenly dragged into officer voice channel.
>Informed that I just shot up the diplomats who alliance lead had invited out to finalize a deal.
>Oops.
>Words were had.
>War were declared.

So yeah, instead of bringing another combat focused Corp into the alliance I kicked off a war. If your out there Khar, information would have been nice.
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>>50429269
how to shot corp 101:

>they're not /pol/acks or shitters
>they don't live in highsec, or if they do, they are killing people regularly
>they focus on doing one general area of the game (if a corp says "we do a little of everything, wow so casual and fun!" they suck, don't bother)
>the leadership are experienced
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>>50429269
Talk to people. Start networking. Figure out what it is you want to do in game and start making friends who do the same.

>>50429432
Damn. I ran into a guy by that name a long time ago who did pretty much the same thing, talked shit in local and got left high and dry by his corp, which prompted more shit talking. Only guy I've ever seen alienate himself from so many people so quickly.
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>>50429450
This is exactly why I'm too afraid to mess around
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>>50429518
Oops meant to reply to >>50429432 for the second point.
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>>50429526
It was dumb, bad luck. Of all the jump gates in the region we just happened to cross paths. Also my fault for not paying more attention to what was happening in alliance chat. And drinking. Never play Eve while drinking it has never ended well for me.
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>>50429526
Eh, that's how the fun starts. If nobody ever fucked up, nothing would happen.
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Eve capsuleers are on such a different level from everyone else in universe.

I think a few ISK is more money than most normal people make in a lifetime in universe.
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>>50420035
Have played it straight off of rouge trader, players loved it.
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>>50429587
1 ISK = average yearly family income. Or that's how it was in old fluff.

There's a short story of a capsuleer contacting a planet, going to the governor and basically saying "hi I'll be landing my factories and bases all up on your shit in about ten minutes, best start that evac" and the governor can do fuck all about it.
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>>50429684
I think the major empires have titans in deep space so large they can't come near planets due to having their own gravitational pull
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>>50429757
Yep, the Iapetan Titans. They used to have in-game models.
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>>50429684
Sounds like being a normal person sucks major balls
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>>50429586
True. Very, very true.

>>50429684
>Nice planet. I'll take it.

>>50429757
If they do that's a new bit of lore they've come out with since I stopped playing. Last I knew the empires were starting to panic because the power of the capsuleer factions was starting to eclipse their own both economic and military.
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>>50429788
I've never heard of these. Explain.
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>>50429806
>Major Empires are being eclipsed by corporations led by autistics and sperglords

Eve is clearly the greatest universe
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>>50429806
Well I guess capsuleers are more or less immortal and backed by Jove technology in some way, utopian ancap capsuleer state when?
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Isn't this the game dominated by the massive faggot from SA? Why the fuck would you play a game run by goons?
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>>50429902
Goons got pooped on hard earlier this year
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>>50429902
Goons got run out of the north and are laying low and rebuilding in the southwest
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>>50429914
>>50429918
Details?
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>>50429949
Some low level Goon or Goon ally corp pissed off a banker from some isk gambling website. Dude used his trillions of isk to fund a war against them.
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>>50429875
>Sperglords control more territory and all the resources there in than the empires. Also the rare shit needed to mass produce tech 2 and 3 hardware/ships.

>Autists have immortal ship captains with ships packing enough firepower to exterminatus planets under their command.

I'd be worried too.
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>>50429757
>major empires
Everyone in eve has titans, even the fucking mining corps.
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What's /tg/'s opinion on that empires of eve book?
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>>50429974
>>50429918
>>50429914

top kek, good to hear
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>>50429902
They got shit on so hard it's hilarious
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>>50429974
Oh man that's awesome, anywhere I can find the full story?
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>>50429560
I only play EVE while drinking.
Then again I'm a dirty rando pirate with no aspirations beyond piloting cheap cruisers and ruining people's day.
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>>50429974
>You will never be an ultra rich galactic banker who can fund a massive multi star-system war against one of the most powerful factions in the galaxy because someone in it pissed you off
Feels bad man.
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>>50420035
It's already really popular, it's called Microsoft Excel
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>>50430133
>>50430073
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/04/21/eve-online-world-war-bee-mittani/

>He approached a band called Mercenary Coalition and suggested “taking on the Goons”. One of their leaders, Sabre A – a man in a leather jacket with a small 100,000 ISK bounty on his head – told him it was “impossible.” The Goons had been a force of nature within New Eden for as long as anyone could remember. Lenny rephrased his question for the mercenary. How much would it take to go after the Goons?

>Sabre plucked a made-up number out of the air, thinking it didn’t matter. Something like six or seven trillion ISK, he said.

>“Okay,” said Lenny, “I have that.”

It's like something out of a fucking space opera
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>>50430111
That was my modus for the first two years I was playing the game, then I realized that I had the skills trained to fly the big expensive shit. I kind of miss not giving a fuck.
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>>50430008
Are they as bad or worse than the Jove?
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>>50430174
This right here. This is what I love about the game. I'm reactivating my account in the morning.
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What's the largest ship I can get on my lonesome in EVE? Are battleships in my reach or are they too expensive for a solo player?
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>>50430486
Titans are personal assets so a single BS is pretty easy to get. Probably a battlecruiser is the biggest I'd go for a new player
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>>50430486
Battleships are easy. It'll take about a year before you're really ready to fly one, though.

Carriers can feasibly be run solo, but to learn the ropes you'd need to start off with an experienced group.

Supers and Titans would be basically impossible to keep safe or ever actually use unless you were personal friends with the PL hunting squads or smth.
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>>50430527
>Titans would be basically impossible to keep safe or ever actually use unless you were personal friends with the PL hunting squads or smth.
I knew this much from Scott Manley's video.
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When will EVE Online History be a college course?

If gender studies can be, I don't see why this can't be.
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>>50430527
>>50430538
not entirely true, but it definitely helps to be part of some sort of super blob. Just be smart about using them and you should be fine
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>>50430174
Makes me actually want to start playing.

Is it likely to run on my six-year-old potato laptop?
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>>50429974
The Moneybadger Coalition is the best thing to happen to lowsec in years. Its been so much fucking fun.
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>>50430920
The fact that the Goon Emperor of Shittery lost not because of some unstoppable foe or sudden strategic shift- but because he pissed off a gambling tycoon is fucking hilarious.

It's like if Nazi Germany was beaten by mobsters hiring mercenaries
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>>50430960
IIRC, that's actually what happened. During the War, the Mafia gave information to the Allies because the Dictator at the time was going after them hard. While Italy wasn't exactly a great partner, it gave the Allies that much more room to deploy and maneuver and fewer enemies to deal with.
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>>50430181
You're the hotshot pilot who turned from his life of petty crime and piracy to make a legitimate life for himself in industry. But the void calls you, and you miss your old life. Life in the corp is so predictable, so route. No real danger.

Pretty soon some old friends are going to come calling with a deal that's too good to pass up. Its near suicidal. It likely wont work. Might start/end a war. And it will rekindle the fire from your carefree days as a pirate. You couldn't refuse if you tried, and you will, but its in your blood.

Godspeed to you, you glorious bastard.
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>>50430174
Other fun related stuff is that CCP kept up with the war making Scope "news reports" from an in game perspective.

Or that there were these alleged leaked chat logs that had the leader of the goons basically saying that their junior alliance members didn't matter and were basically to be used as speed bumps in the war, this coming out right after he gave a speech on how the solidarity of the goons is what kept them together so long.
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>>50431282
There was some amazing propaganda to come out of that "war"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhZMBo-QpYA
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>>50431353
The best stories in eve always come about after the end of someone else's.
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>>50430780
Yeah if you're willing to deal with worse graphics
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>>50431353
CO2's defection was a fantastic twist on the war. Goon fucking crumbled after that.
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>>50429454
>>50429518
Thanks for the advice, right now I'm flying for Brave but I kind of want to branch out. Getting pretty tired of mass suiciding in frigates.

>>50431353
That's surprisingly well made
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Is it really the ANCAP memery it is made out to be? Seems like a murderhobo heaven
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>>50423019
Sit around shooting the shit until it's time to start shooting shit.
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>>50423019
mine.
been doing it since 2007
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I think I'm going to start writing up an Eve PnP based off Traveler. Evelopedia is dead, which makes things a pain, but hopefully I'll have something to share with everyone in a month or two. Stay tuned.

>>50431118
>I couldn't refuse if I tried.
Well I resubed last night and the first old face I got in touch with was from my pirate days. I'm loading up throw away cruisers and heading back to lowsec tomorrow evening to relearn how to gank. -10.0 security rating, here I come.
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>>50420035
>the setting has a ton of great shit man
Could you give some examples, please?
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>>50433662
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/gallente-caldari-war-the-breakout/ is one I like in particular
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>>50433662
CCP has poured a lot of work into developing the world, a lot of rich back story and is populated by some really fun, I testing groups.

On the player side of things
>World War Bee
>Bloodbath at B-5R
>Eve Investment Bank scandal
>Great Northern War
>Fall OF Bob
>Curse Wars
>the rise and fall of Ascended Frontiers
Here's a blast from the past for everyone
>m0o
That's just off the top of my half asleep head from what I've seen in my time in game
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>>50433662
>>50433731
EVE Chronicles is a great place to start exploring the cluster.
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>>50429587
They are for all intent and purpose immortal.

This brings a huge disconnect between them and their actions, something that's focused on heavily in some of the books (which are well worth a read).

The best way to play an eve RPG would be at the corporate level, almost every facet of Eve life is corporate controllers one way or another and the corp fighting has ballonned out onto what is a quietly sanctioned war, even if both corps are from the same empire.


Turns out when you have xx trillion people, the lives of a few billion seem paltry.
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>>50430040
Its superb, EvE lore is only one step beneath WoWs when it comes to a living, fleshed out universe
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>>50433910
Honestly it's above imo, but that's personal taste.
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>>50433662
MTACs

Too bad DUST 514 fell flat before they were put in.
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>>50433561
Post it here whence you do, I've been after a fleshed out eve TT RPG for an age.
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>>50433949
Story time
>Dust 514 just came out, room mate decides to try it out
>It's not terrible, he plays it for a while because why not
>I'm playing Eve on my laptop, Corp chat is quiet not a lot going on I'm exploring dead space sites because why not
>Suddenly "Anon get your ass to (system name)
>Itstime.webm
>Haul ass to market hub, load up a minmatar destroyer with OB hardware
>Park in orbit, link up with his Dust team
>"Target incoming"
>Lock target, give it a burst
>Turn around in time to see my shells hit on the TV screen
>Enemy team caught out in the open, so much death
>Men were not meant to know such joy
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>>50433955
That's the plan anon.
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>>50430174
How is the war, currently?
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>>50434108
Done. Goons got shit on hard.
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>>50433114
It is that much and more.

And it's ____fun
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>>50434120
>Goons got shit on hard.
Don't they still have most of their fleet? And what will happen since the war is over?
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>>50433662
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/

Some light reading for you.
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>>50434070
wait what
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>>50430527
what are PL hunting squads?
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>>50433731
>>50433774
>>50433797
>>50433949
>>50434202
Thank you all folks.
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>>50435062
EVE is connected to Dust 541, a F2P PS3 shooter. You can call in orbital bombardments in Dust and then have a ship in EVE fly to the planet where you're fighting and blast your target to the stone age.
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>>50435083
Pandemic Legion, one of the player groups, loves to go out and hunt supercapital ships. And I mean hunt: they'll spy on you for weeks or months trying to suss out your main hangouts and alts until they're sure they can catch you with your pants down and no backup.
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>>50435398
Go read about corporate structure in eve lore, flying spaceships is one thing but in the grand scheme if things, its tiny
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>>50434175
EVE Online: Mittens' Strikes Back
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>EVE insanity intensifies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ4IqfUPFv0
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>>50435938
Evidently Mittens doesn't have a grasp on shit no more
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>>50433797
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/old-man-star/

The Chronicles are great and several of them are about what are basically PC parties. Not everything revolves around the capsuleers.
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>>50429684
The funny thing is that the story where that happens was written to introduce Planetary Interaction, which is one of the most peaceful and boring things you can do in EVE. Of course, what's "peaceful and boring" for an effectively immortal one-percenter space lord is "orbital bombardment by automated factories and spaceports at a literally astronomical cost that will raze the local environment for resources" when you're just some guy on the ground.
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>>50423019
go to war over a book
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>>50442946
That book was gonna be the start of a multi dollar empire

Do you hear me?

MULTIPLE

DOLLARS
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Could the Borg, the ultimate space communists, conquer the Capsuleer, alliances the ultimate space capitalists?
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>>50444100
The Borg kind of already exist in Eve. They're called Sansha's Nation here.
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>>50444404
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/sanshas-nation/

It should also be noted one of the expansion patches was Incursion, basically Sansha is alive, well, still crazy, and started launching attacks on the Eve cluster. There was also a somewhat disturbing account a player posted of entering a wormhole created by the Nation only to exit in Jove space. They had a few second to panic before the FUCKING MASSIVE number of Nation ships wrecked him. His proof of this was that a player death was recorded in Jove space, somewhere players cannot get to.
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>>50444551
Makes sense, one of the later chronicles had a Jove guy talking to a SoCT agent and casually mentioning how the ship they were in was going to open a wormhole and then going "dude, Sansha copied our shit, and poorly"

Also it bears noting that for all the EVE space empires hate each other, absolutely no one likes Sansha, to the point of Amarr and Minmatar happily teaming up to murder the space zombies.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/crossingzebras.com/the-promised-land/amp/

A more in depth article about the Nation for those of you looking for a good read.
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>>50445610
Reading back through all this I realize I'd forgotten how much of a legitimate menace the Nation is. Fuck.
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>>50429248
I've been playing eve since 2005 and at this point I only log in when someone else has done the ground work for me.
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>>50445610
That's kind of spooky, I thought they were just random mooks
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>>50436059
Grasp or no he still controls a big fucking fleet and is mad as hell about being kicked in the balls repeatedly.

Some shit gonna go down eventually.
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>>50446544
Nope. Guristas, Serpentis, Angel Cartel, all organized crime groups out to make a buck. The Nation, they're something much worse.
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>>50446612
Blood Raiders are zealots that prowl the spacelanes to capture ships and literally drain the blood from their crew. Plus, even the most "normal" pirate groups like the Guristas or the Angels are effectively space empires of their own with their own police forces and government, which is unsettling already.
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My favorite thing about Eve:

>Upon having their capsule blown up, a player's corpse is left floating in space while their consciousness is transferred to their new clone
>Players can scoop the corpses into their cargo bays as loot
>Some players keep them as trophies, amassing large collections, some sell them to others through contracts
>This becomes so prominent CCP adds ships with dedicated cargo bays specifically for corpses
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>>50431282
Mittens was in news like some space stalin. Shit was cheesy as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWxs8PLFrHY&list=PLQvKSs1k6DLND_n1eyjHLML_0G__CEqMg&index=11
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Don't forget to watch Rnk videos for soem dank autism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-PbDCyh6tI
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>>50446884
>RnK
People can say what they want, those guys are top-tier entertainment. Single-handedly got me into this game.
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Btw is that Laz speaking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGUixf4y9Uo&t=11s
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>>50446937
Instead of repeating orders four fucking times, why don't they just say it clearly twice?
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>>50447044
because there's still idiots that dont hear it after the 3rd time

I've been that idiot before
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>>50429684
Got a link to that, by any chance?

>>50430268
>I'm reactivating my account in the morning.
>reactivating
Indefinite free trial since 12 days ago.

>>50446795
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119995
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https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/xenocracy/
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>>50447244
>It had taken him almost fifty years to climb to his position as the highest authority on Chesiette Prime, the first planet of the Chesiette system, a thriving temperate world with just over a billion inhabitants.

>"Additionally, I will be overseeing the construction of the seventy-two new spaceports my corporation requires, each located at key intersections across the surface of your world.”

>"Building that many new spaceports would cost more than the total revenue our planet generates in a year.”

It costs 900,000 isk to build a launchpad in-game, so 72 of them would total 64.8 million isk. That would mean that 1 isk could pay the salary of 15 people for a year. Christ.
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>>50447380
If you play the game, one of the missions has your courier a massive amount of money to someone demanding a ransom. The kicker is that it's a paper money of a planetary note; completely useless and not worth a single ISK. The inventory item is almost literally "A Case Full of Money," and has no ISK value whatsoever.
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>>50447380
>Your existing spaceport facility was insufficient for my needs.
>The amount of raw materials that will need to be transported into orbit is an order of magnitude larger than what your current facilities are able to support.
Also, bear in mind that Yvesk is doing the math in terms of his current shitty spaceport.

>>50429684
>Or that's how it was in old fluff.
How old are we talking here?
CCP is pretty inconsistent with their lore, but I remember a few ISK being enough for an entire family to retire.
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I herd u like sum edge
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I have some pdfs if anyone is interested.
https://mega.nz/#F!7RwUxDjL!WlFZXU-X19UAoTi9ZgD7oA
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>>50447517
thanks hubby
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For someone who has no idea what EVE is and only lurks in these threads from time to time: Is there a BBEG in the EVE Universe?

Something even the biggest corporations fear?
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>>50429814
They were basically mysterious "so big u dont even know, srsly guys" ships meant to get people invested in the lore. They became the normal titans. The Gallente and Amarr ships look pretty much the same. The in game models were just low rez placeholders.
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>>50447380
There's a chornicle about a capsuleer who was recuiting crew on the planet and he gave a dude ONE isk and everyone around totally shat himself because OMG ONE ISK IS SHITLOAD OF CASH M8
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>>50447575
>"so big u dont even know, srsly guys"
yet, if CCP allow players to build them, there will be fleets of super-supers within the month
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>>50447566
>Is there a BBEG in the EVE Universe?
Nah. There are NPC villains, but not BBEG(s). Sansha is the closest thing by fluff, but even he's small time.
The biggest guild alliance, Goonswarm (SA Forums), were the de facto villains back when they were relevant.
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>>50447679
Thanks mate. I read about the Goonswarm and the stories of them. But too bad, I always like the thought of impending doom or at least a threat to the Universe (like the Burning Legion in WoW).

I think it'd be awesome if all these hostile alliances had to work together for once.

But I still like to read about the game.
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>>50447698
As >>50447679 said Sansha's Nation is slightly similar to that. There is an in-game mechanic called Incursions which are most easily described as Eve's equivalent to raids from other MMOs. Basically Sansha's Nation NPCs will move from region to region, replacing all of the normal, weak pirate NPCs in that region with extremely tough Sansha's Nation NPCs that are designed to be taken on with a fleet. These even take place in High-Security space where players of every race and corp can team up against them in public fleets.
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>>50447744
I thought the sleepers and those drone guys were the closest thing to BBEGs
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>>50447770
The sleepers give no fucks. Their entire society fucked off to VR, they have no influence beyond w-space.
And even that's just the defense systems trying to stop you from ripping through their life support to steal their wetware.

I don't remember what's up with the Drone region. Pretty sure that's small time?
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>>50447907
Sounds utopian
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>>50448102
Not really.
https://youtu.be/s3060a8NkOk?list=PLdWvmH-5V-Z-WGsMsedYfgISccUkDw7TH
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>>50448145
I don't really get it, they're rebuilding bodies?
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>>50448177
They original bodies are gone. They've been living in VR for centuries or even more.
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>>50448191
Well, I guess it's okay if they're tired of being VR people.
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>>50448191

>they can't clone fresh bodies
>in a setting where cloning tech is a thing

I have questions
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>>50448270
Sleepers still come from the Jove, who fucked up their genome so much with all that gene therapy and cloning that they all have a bunch of degenerative diseases. They are dead no matter what sooner or later.
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>>50448278
So is using fresh bodies a way to get around the whole disease thing? I mean, if they're using bodies with a different genome the disease shouldn't affect them, right?
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>>50448295
Cloning works with transfering the mind but I haven't heard if it works on a body that isn't made from your genes. Maybe you could possess some other body, but that would be only your spirit. Your race would still be physically extinct.
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Where my /there/ m8s at?
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>>50448305
Better than being extinct in both regards I would assume.
I've been reading all of this stuff and you know I wonder, where's Earth at. There doesn't seem to be any real mention of it in the chronicles.
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>>50420118
Whats the best way to run rouge trader? Because I tried to run a game once and it was hell. The sheer open endlessness of it all completely stumped me. The players could do so much on their own time that I just gave up. Having a ship that can go anywhere the players want makes it impossible to control them.
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>>50448342
Earth is on the other side of the EVE gate. They went through the ADAM gate, which was for all intents and purposes a stabilized wormhole, built the EVE gate and got colonizing. Then it collapsed and the unprepared colonists on many planets were sent into a technological dark age because they were (mostly) unprepared. The Jove were sorta set, so they kept on rocking.
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>>50429450
If you're still here, will you share the flight of the lolnado?
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>>50448364
Sounds fun, I wonder if CCP is ever going to reintroduce elements of that Earth stuff. I reckon it'd be a blast, or something along those lines. I reckon it'd be wildly different tech.
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w-space best space, remove local in k-space
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>>50448414
the only thing that excites me about eve is wormhole space

I want to start living there but don't want to do it solo and no friends
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>>50448428
Join a corp bud
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>>50448428
Time to shill

Join Straight outta wormholes, we're in a C2>NS/C5

Also, Dreddit is recruiting
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Can I shitpost in here
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>>50448433
tried (briefly) looking but they are all pvp and c2+ wormhole corps, when I'm just looking for industry c1's

I might just go and set up in one of the empty wormholes my alt is parked in and see what happens
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>>50448440
I feel like I'd be nigh-on useless at 3 mil SP.

>>50448278
Speaking of Jove, what's the deal with all of their warp-gates shutting down?
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>>50430008
>Implying the empires won't just shut off rouge capsuleers from the fluid router network so they die for real when getting podded
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>>50448466
Watch the emergent threats trailer and read the Inheritance chronicle.. When Caroline's star happened, the shockwave would fuck the whole network so they cut it off.
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>>50448506
Oh I completely missed that, whoops.
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>>50448466
If you can fly a rlml caracal you're useful in shield doctrine fights/ns roams
If you can fly a vexor, you're useful in armor doctrine fights
If you can use a covops cloak you can help scan down the chain and find content, even if you can't fit the cloak you can still find stuff

I had maybe 3m so more than you when I joined, and I'm having fun
Even if you can't fly any of that, it's at most 1-2 weeks away

However, if you're an alpha or don't want to PvP at all, then you probably won't fit in, considering that SOWHs is a PvP corp
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>>50448760
I woulda thought he fit right in... in the navy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV8jVGzop6o
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>>50448789
Caldari are an ethnic mix of finns and japs. Figure out how they'd tolerate fags.
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>>50448824
With vodka lubed tentacles?
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Is there any reason to play EvE solo, or is it mainly about clans and alliances and such?
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>>50448860
It's an mmo, and not in the modern sense. You can play with a minimum of interaction with other players but you will miss out on a significant portion of the experience.
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So what I'm hearing from the thread is /tg/ Corp? I'll join one of you anons just needs to set that shit up.
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>>50448970
If alphas can make corps i'll create one for that, don't have the isk income to supply another character
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>>50448860
I'm a solo player, but also a part of one of the largest null corps in the game

the only interaction I have with my corp is alliance chat, I don't fleet with any of them or even go near where we live. basically just helps not feel so lonely.
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>>50448970
I don't think there's a 4chan corp of any kind
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>>50449080
there's a few in /vg/
pupper appreciation station is the latest one, 40 or so members, newbie friendly
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fuck off tehol
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>>50449020
I say we call it GURPS
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Give me some corp names lads. What sounds suitably /tg/? Or just what sounds 4chan enough?
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>>50449232
why not FATAL
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>>50448372
If the thread is still up this evening when I get off work sure thing. To hold you over, have some eve machinma.

>Clear Skies
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5285kr1J4xE
>Clear Skies 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4NRJgxkK-t8
>Clear Skies 3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ehN1eS6HSro
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>>50449274
Because I'm all but sure its taken.
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What happened with Dust?

Are they gonna make any other games set in EVE that cross over?
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>>50449348
Dust is dead due to lack of interest.
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>>50422988
>tfw you were there for the whole 19 hour slugfest
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>>50449348
Dust sadly fizzled, really it was mostly a proof of concept and a test to see if it could work. As far as games go it's was alright but flawed, imagine CoD or Battlefield where every time you died you had to buy your gear and armor and had to provide your own grenades.

There was a trailer floating around for Eve valkryie or something, basically flying fighters off eve carriers, supposedly for the Occulus Rift if memory serves.
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>>50435083
>>50435591
They call themselves the #Rekkingcrew, a group of ultra-ascended megautists headed by RocketX. I hang out with them a lot in PL, and learned a ton from them.

Basically, they do know where you are, what your ship's loadout is, they know where you logged off, who your social circle is, and have access to databases to get ahold of every API-related activity you've done in the past three years.

They do things such as:
Log off an alt at the last spot you logged off four years ago, ready to go in a heavy interdictor.
Locate the POS you stored your super in, take it down and put up their own in its place.
Infiltrate your corporation, get POS roles, offline the shield, park a heavy interdictor there with Hictor at level 4, which gives its bubble the exact same circumferance as a POS shield.
If you're trying to sell a titan, they have access to alts with no traceable history, befriend you, set up to buy your super, get you to do as they want, and then intercept and kill you.

You do not rest easily in a super if you know those extreme wizards have their gaggle of autists nearby.
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Because of this thread just downloaded the game again. Is their an easy killy mode? I got a 2 day free trial a few years back and it drove me insane from boredom well till I attacked a CONCORD battleship.
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>>50449429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jf_FUEHOM
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>>50449466
I am the Great Lord DingLe Florper Hinken
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>>50448394
When Jamyl Sarum made her "miraculous" return and saved Amarr from the Minmatar Elder Fleet, she used a Terran superweapon.
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>>50449093
Really? Might have to see what they're about then, but I am more of a carebear by nature.
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>>50449629
>When Jamyl Sarum made her "miraculous" return and saved Amarr from the Minmatar Elder Fleet
>saved Amarr from the Minmatar Elder Fleet
>saved Amarr
>from the Minmatar
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>>50449655
The Elders were kicking golden ass all over until she showed up.
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>>50449670
Absolutely disgusting
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>>50449896
Like your mom hahahaha
>Minmatar laughter in the distance
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>>50430174
I just love how they have professional looking news reports for player made conflicts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAFw2kLe2OA
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>>50449980
A-at least our ships don't look like Garry's Mod abortions ;_;
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>>50450064
Man Mittens has a way with words that I can appreciate
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>>50448355
That's where the setting comes in.

The best way to control player in sandbox situations is to do so through the environment.

The key is to constantly keep things they need just out of reach. They use fuel to do jobs to make money to buy goods to sell goods to buy fuel. Most of their effort and goals should be centered around keeping their ship in working condition.

In the eve universe specifically, ships and human clones are expendable but still cost money. Therefore a task is profitable so long as the haul can replace the risked crew and ship. You must therefore be constantly risking and losing ships while making money meaning that each fuck up can mean that there isn't enough money to try again.
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>>50450064
I like the way they posed Mittens' character model.

Now I wonder if there's SFM porn of EVE personalities.
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>>50449348
New person in charge starting trying to be more CoD with it than it's own thing, alienated the player base worse than a Dell sponsorship of MLG, and people left.
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>>50449429
Easy kills? Gallente Federation character, Catalyst. 8 neutrino blasters loaded with antimatter.
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>>50448748
>Enemy Threat Level: Autistic
I feel for these folks. I wonder how old the people who made these Bio's are
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>>50451206
Well in my first hour a Corp just gave me a fully kitted out Kestrel so I think I'm pretty good. Which is farther than I've ever gotten before.
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Sweet buggery.
I think I will download the game, but need a really big heads-up. Especially for current events.
So, if my memory serves me right, Goonswarm destroys a joint PL/N3 fleet at B-R5RB and sits on its fat arse for a year. It just stays content to do nothing until someone bugs a plutocrat, like >>50429974 said. Goonswarm gets absolutely rekt. And now what?
Also, what happened with Caroline's Star?
Sorry if I have to post this, I simply don't have the time to check myself.
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>>50453988
>but need a really big heads-up.
For indefinite trial accounts,
Gallente = Caldari > Minmatar > > > > > > Amarr
Your xp cap won't give you enough levels in capacitor skills to run Amarr ships.

Within the Alpha ship pools: *
• Caldari have the best overall ship pool
• Gallente have the best available Frigate and Cruiser
• Minmatar have the best available Destroyer, but literally every other ship in their pool is garbage

*subject to future balance changes, ofc

>and now what?
Back to ship spinning and meaningless patrolling.
Unspoken diplomatic rules staring intently from the background.
Standard sov null fare.
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>>50422988
Soooo, what was all this about then?
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Use GURPS Ultra Tech+Space Ships and you are good to go with EVE. I saw someone else do it.
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>>50454725
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB
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>>50449302
Got any more Ireland to go with that complete disregard for the setting?
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>>50447582
And again, anyone have a link?
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>>50429974
Didn't that guy get banned for real money trading? >>50430008
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>>50455764
Don't know, but the websites tend to use loopholes to not break the no real money trading rule
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>>50433662
The old lore on Underwater Cities was super cool. It has since been removed along with the official wiki, but I found the content mirrored elsewhere
.
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Underwater_cities
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>>50433910
>WoW ''''''''lore''''''''
WoW is literately non-canon trash. I won the final mission in the Alliance Campaign in BtDP, damn it.
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>>50446635
The Angels found a post space flight, pre-warp empire and took it over, giving them several developed planets to govern, along with a population of several billion to recruit from.
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>>50447517
Tony G can fuck himself with a rusty spoon. The rest of that shit is cool though.
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>>50450064
>Military Experts
well memed CCP
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>>50455764
Some accusations were thrown around, a bunch got b& but it was reversed after they appealed.
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>>50449655
The Elder Fleet was BTFOing the Amarr and Concord concurrently while also cleaning house of every single corrupt Minmatar politician.

That operation was pretty fucking scary from a lore perspective.
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>>50429684
*10,000 isk is a middle class gallentean families income for 1 year. Yes that means a middle class gallentean family could buy a corvette in a couple of years. If they could get their money converted from planetary script into ISK, given ISK is a currency used exclusively for HUGE trade. Like, imagine money that exists only for countries to buy super carriers with.
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>>50430242
The jove are explicitly benevolent. They spent the past few hundred years trying to guide the cluster into the best possible universe. Up to and including trying to drive slavery extinct and help the minmatar make a country and educating the best and brightest of the cluster to help them lead their people to greatness and enlightenment.
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>>50430486
Biggest? Dreadnought or Carrier. You do want friends to help you stay safe though.
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>>50460564
And making sure the capsuleer pod is coincidentally a middle finger to Amarr religion.
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>>50444100
The Borg are behind technologically. Not even a little behind.

10,000 years behind most of the empires.

Nations in EVE use gravitons to power engines.

They create mass altering energy field emitters in minutes out of stones.

They use singularities bamfed into existence in controlled deathrays.

They travel 20 AU a second and can come out of that speed in instants and land within 10 KM of a target.

Their fights can happen at 200km + instead of the borderline fistfights of star trek.

A small fleet consists of up to or more than a dozen ships the size of a borg cube. Most large groups can field hundreds, if not thousands at once. The empires can field millions of vessels.

Cloning and persistent memories through death are so cheap and affordable it's actually cheaper to get yourself cloned with all your memories and personality in a new body than it is to take antibiotics.
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>>50460644
>20 AU
Bruh, not everything is a Leopard.
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>>50460644
>Their fights can happen at 200km + instead of the borderline fistfights of star trek.
Which admittedly is still peanuts compared to actual space ranges. But yeah, the EVE world is pretty high in the tech scale compared to other sci-fi settings.
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>>50460644
>Cloning and persistent memories through death are so cheap and affordable
Most would be capsuleers die while testing for cloning/backup compatibility.
Only space kangz'n'shieet use cloning. Not cheap, affordable, or reliable.
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>>50447907
>>50448102
Sleepers fled to the wormhole space to escape a disease they didn't know was inherent to their modified biology.

They fled into the VR to find a cure in a simulation where time passed far, far more quickly to give them as much time as possible to find a cure. They failed.

the Empires came, stole the bodies they left in stasis, cut them apart for the high tech implants. Turned the implants into immortal clone soldier tech.

>>50448394
Colonists came through the EVE gate because the Milkyway was utterly and completely fucked. Imagine if there were no resources left to mine. This is the position the terrans were in. They were RAPIDLY running out of everything and anything. Wars were ripping the entire galaxy apart. Everything was being destroyed. Weapons that could kill entire fleets with the push of a button, weapons that ran on fuel which if fired into something like a star, would shread space and time so badly that entire galaxies worth of space was left with huge roaming tears were commonplace.
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>>50449348
New game is coming out based on old dust assets for PC and PS4.
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>>50460771
Cloning is literally free now. Free to everyone. Ever. It's literally the lore backing behind alpha clones. Anyone can be a clone now. Not everyone can be a capsuleer.
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>>50460771
>Most would be capsuleers die while testing for cloning/backup compatibility.
One of my favorite bits of EVE fluff is that the final test for capsuleer licensing is getting killed solely to see if you can wake up in your clone. If you can, great! If you don't, you're dead.
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>>50460860
>Anyone can be a clone now.
There are certain conditions that prevent cloning still. Tibus Heth himself couldn't get cloned because of a condition he picked up during his years of space work.
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>>50460911
That was basically because his head would explode due to mineral deposits if he tried it.

I imagine having a stick of Dynamite taped to a probe you're about to stick into molten rock would stop you getting an accurate reading too.
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>>50460832
Sounds like it'd be better than the PS4 exclusive at least.

>>50460675
I think the point still stands that EVE is way ahead of the Borg and all that.
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>>>50463082 Sounds like it'd be better than the PS4 exclusive at least.
PS3 exclusive. It launched 3 months after the PS4 was announced.
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>>50433910

Warcraft has the luxury of a decade's worth of build-up beforehand so it wasn't top down like most game's lore is, but personally I think it has become too bloated to enjoy at this point. They went down the AU path: never go down the AU path beyond "what if" stories if at all possible.
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>>50463350
It might be me and my dislike or Warcraft to begin with but the lore also seems written in such a mediocre fashion.
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>>50463082
They're focusing on team deathmatch gameplay like many shooters today. Think space counterstrike and you're probably close to reality.
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>>50467693
The most important question to ask here is will the game be linked with Eve, and if so can I still nuke people from orbit?
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>>50423019
Explore
Shoot shit
Blow up
Repeat
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>>50423019
Whatever I and the rest of the Corp feel. Mining ops, roams, missions, exploration. We did Incursions for a while but got tired of the random wardec's, plus we only had two players who could fly logistics worth a damn.
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>>50468522
>The most important question to ask here is will the game be linked with Eve,
Yes, but they FPS is barely in Alpha. Don't hold your breath.
>and if so can I still nuke people from orbit?
EVE still has the items for it, and they intend to link the games. So...

>>50460832
Pretty sure the new FPS hasn't had platforms announced?

The VR headset exclusive (typical CCP decision making) dog-fighting game will be for PC and PS4.
If also won't link to EVE: Online at launch (hey, look! more bad decisions).
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>>50448394
Earth was largely fucked. In the old intro, humans expanded "until they could expand no further", then started turning on themselves. Whether that was some kind of limitation of their FTL method or something else, we don't know. The EVE Gate wormhole was found and all sorts of groups ran through and started colonizing. The Gate was only open for about a hundred years before inexplicably collapsing, cutting off the fledgling colonies. Everything regressed until it was basically the bronze age again before rebounding. IIRC it's been something like 14,000 years since the EVE gate collapsed.
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>>50470766
>Pretty sure the new FPS hasn't had platforms announced?
It hasn't, or had any significant information released about it at all. God only knows if its going to even be worth playing or not.
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>>50473258
>or had any significant information released about it at all.
Apparently it's class based. Sounds like it's playing follow the leader with Overwatch?
>God only knows if its going to even be worth playing or not.
CCP Shanghai, so uh... probably not.
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Ok fellas, question. I'm pulling everything together to start writing the Eve TTRPG, and the first question I've got for everyone is what do you want to see in them game? I'd thinking of staying away from pod pilots and the immortal Dust merc BS but it wouldn't be hard to put into practice. Any thoughts or requests? I've got the previous Mongoose Traveler rule book open in front of me now but as nothing is beyond rough notes yet it wouldn't be hard to change system base.
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>>50473962
Political bullshit. Ship maintenance.
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>>50473962
If you do decide to include eggers, I'd suggest shackling them more closely to the factions and organisations that elevated them. You could also use Eclipse Phase as inspiration on how to present a society of immortal body-hoppers.
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>>50473962
It's possible for PCs to just be part of the capsuleer's crew and to never see the egger.
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>>50474454
"In the cargo hold of the Megathron-class battleship SS Buttpope, you come across 1d10 Exotic Dancers. Roll for initiative."
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>>50474141
>>50474102
Politics goes without saying, this is Eve after all. I'm working on what may turn into two different ways to handle ship combat damage in paralell, I'm of two minds on how close to the game I want to model the PnP system. The way I'm currently leaning in borrowing something like the heat system from Battletech to represent capacitor generation/use and a damage reduction mechanic for shield/armor resistances. Honestly ship combat may be the easiest part of this project.

Also, does anyone know what sort of small arms would be avaliable to the citizens of New Eden? I recall that hauling small arms will get you shot at everywhere except the Gallente Federation, and Caldari allow smart small arms, but beyond that and what form they take remains a mystery to me.
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>>50474526
>Also, does anyone know what sort of small arms would be avaliable to the citizens of New Eden?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Are the players necessarily restricted to civilian gear?
Maybe look at Dust 514.
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>>50474526
Consider if you even want to have ship combat in the first place. It's the primary focus of the MMO, true, but at personal scale it's little more than a chance to get a TPK where the party can't do a real thing about it other than maybe a couple of skill rolls. Consider those 55-hp basic pirate mooks that crumple into a heap when a capsuleer so much as look at them, and then think that your PCs might find themselves inside one.
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>>50474735
So until someone proves otherwise, the answer to that is ye Olde bullet guns and lasers. Check. I'll try and con some people to pley test rules this weekend, until then it's lore condensation time.
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>>50474830
I'm thinking I'm going to put rules for it into the game and leave it up to GM's to decide if they want to have their players get into it or not. My line of logic here is that back when the world was new and all CCP said that capule technology was new, so the majority of ships were conventionally crewed still. If memory serves a Raven class battleship has 3 or 4 thousand souls aboard, Apoc battleships closer to 10 thousand. I'd think that a conventionally crewed cruiser would have a fighting chance against another conventionally crewed cruiser. Against pod ships, things will get ugly fast.
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>>50474454
Egger ships are almost completely automated, I think. The systems are all tied into their nervous interface.
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>>50475153
Not entirely, most of them are retrofitted old ship designs. The only ones that are completely automated are the tech 3 modular ships. Last I knew at least, CCP may have changed that.
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>>50475153
Almost, but not entirely. Rookie ships, shuttles and frigates can be piloted solo (or with 1-3 other people at most) but once you go over that there's more and more people involved. A capsule ship still needs an order of magnitude less crew than a conventional ship, however.
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>>50475177
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>>50474526
>>50475007
Varies depending on their origin.

Soldiers in the Minmatar territories would usually have slug-throwers and explosives. These have the advantage of having very high ROF and middling effective range. They do better against physical body armor than their energy-based counterparts. Expect the traditional types of SMGs, assault rifles, and grenade launchers. They also produce a multi-barrel heavy machine gun for heavy infantry use which is powerful enough to tear apart lightly armored vehicles, but don't expect to get any use out of it unless you're wearing pic-related or one of the other faction equivalents. In DUST 514 they also had a pistol which fired microrockets. About as badass as it sounds.

Gallente small-arms focus on close-range engagement. Their weapons are plasma based and will tear away shields very, very quickly. The known Gallente small arms are their assault rifle and their shotgun. Their one known anti-vehicle weapon is a shoulder-mounted plasma launcher which fires a ball of plasma in a shallow arc. Nasty shit if you can get it to land. If they produce any heavy weapons, CCP hasn't said so.

Amarr are all lasers all the time. Slightly longer range than the Minmatar but they don't break into the extremes that the Caldari operate at. Expect marksman style battle rifles with lower-end rates of fire. Like the Gallente their weapons are more suited for stripping shields than piercing body armor.

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>>50475322
Caldari have a hard-on for long-range gauss weaponry and guided missiles. Known small arms are the Caldari battle rifle, the Caldari gauss sniper, and the Forge Gun. All of these are man-portable guass weaponry. These weapons trade rate of fire for sheer stopping power and range. The Forge Gun in particular is a heavy weapon designed to be used with heavy battle suits and is intended for use as an anti-vehicle engagement weapon, effective at extreme ranges. If Caldari vehicles aren't armed with a gauss weapon then expect them to be carrying a lot of guided missles.
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>>50475322
>>50475348
One thing I forgot to mention, Minmatar systems have a focus on being modular. Ostensibly you could take apart the SMG weapon system and retrofit it to suit your needs, assuming you have the required parts.

You won't turn it into a Mass Driver (the grenade launching system has its own frame) but you could easily convert it from a room clearer to a mid-range engagement system and then to a long range precision platform.
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>>50475322
>>50475348
Makes sense, but I'd also expect every empire to produce basic firearms aside from the Minmatar even if their formal armies and merc units use different stuff. To say nothing of the pirate empires and other non-aligned factions.
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>>50475449
They all produce the basic pistol/rifle/heavy stuff if that's what you mean, though we haven't seen concrete examples of them in lore besides the Gellente, Minmatar, and Amarr pistols (Gallente pistol showed up in a book once, the other two got showcased in 514).

But generally if you find a weapon on a Gallente planet then it will be a plasma weapon. The megacorps produce everything, and if it isn't produced by them it's produced by the government. Outside of Empire/government space you'll find a much more eclectic mix of stuff but expect pretty much all of it to be from one of the Big Four unless it's explicitly from a pirate faction.

To give an idea of how far down it goes, a troup of mercs were able to shut down most of a Gallente city's security force by blasting the city with an EMP, frying the local's plasma weaponry while the mercs engaged with Minmatar sluggers.
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Do you have to play this game on a set schedule to have fun?
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>>50476047
Nah. A large amount of "content" (read: PvP fleets where you go around in a big blob using superior numbers to blap anything in your path) in large corporations can be set to specific times and you may miss out on some such things if you're in a corp that doesn't operate during your play schedule but other than that you can do whatever you like whenever you like.
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>Love the aesthetics of EVE
>Love the lore from this thread
>Will NEVER, EVER succeed in any MMO let alone one so cutthroat

MMOs are just so intimidating. I feel like if I don't commit to it 24-7 I'm loosing out by letting other get ahead. why was I born this way?
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>>50476335
Bruh you can just fly around in your spaceship and do missions or whatever. There's a lot of people who don't play it because of some ebin pvp skills but because they like to fly around and chill or shit.
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>>50476335
What >>50476381 said. Now that you can play for free infinitely with the whole Alpha clone deal you can enjoy it at your own pace without having to worry about paying for a sub or making enough isk to plex each month. No reason not to at least try it out.
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>>50476381
>>50476494
But that to me is too unsatisfying. I want to be head of a corporation spanning the galaxy, not some drifter.
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>tfw peak of supercap power projection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvB2nRGMl2c&
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>>50476616
Why are the Amarr titans so popular?
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>>50476541
>I want to be head of a corporation spanning the galaxy, not some drifter
Good luck, you'd need friends for that NEET.
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>>50476662
>NEET
But I'm not and thats why my dreams will never be realized...
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>>50476628
Poor balance.
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>>50474526
Something to consider if you're going to run a ground game set in the EvE setting: Immortal soldiers exist now, though they're a breed apart from the Eggers.

You probably (almost definitely) wouldn't want to give your players access to their immortality tech since it would kind of remove all the tension from dying and shit, but you might make use of one or some as reoccurring antagonists or characters. Hard to beat a bad guy that just comes back angrier and shootier every time you down him. These guys also tend to have pretty deep connections due to how the whole organization thing works too, so that might provide some interesting story possibilities.

More food for thought, the original generation of immortal mercs had Something Wrong with their implants. It's hard to know what exactly, but they'd go mad, have visions, begin ranting in a strange language, draw odd symbols on the walls, the general stuff. It's possible the original implants didn't have the original personalities scrubbed out properly, but CCP was hinting at something with darker implications in the Templar One book.
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>>50476541

>I want to be successful
>But I don't want to wooorrkkk

kys
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>>50476381
>>50476494
So what are some single player things which net you lodes of isk? Can you ever make enough to support yourself with PLEX?
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>>50476758
>Can you ever make enough to support yourself with PLEX?
Absolutely. I started only about 5 months ago and after my first 21 day trial + 30 day starter month I was making enough isk every month to plex and haven't paid a cent since.

>So what are some single player things which net you lodes of isk?
Exploration will likely be your go-to. Basically you fit a non-combat scanning/hacking ship, go deep out into either null security space or dive into some wormholes and scan down data/relic sites, hack the objects there, then cheese it with your haul. Another option is gas harvesting. You fit a Venture mining frigate with two gas harvesters and a scan probe launcher, scan down wormholes, go into them, then scan down gas sites. In said sites will be large clouds of gas you can harvest which sell for a ton. Both of these options can net you large amounts of isk quickly but are very risky, but even if you lose your ship you're only losing 1-5m and a good exploration/gas haul can net you ten times that easily. I would suggest reading up on them beforehand, though, as there's a lot to learn that can improve your survivability while traipsing about in nullsec/WHs such as D-scanning or making safe spots to scan from.
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>>50476854
How time consuming is it to refit a ship after loosing it?
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>>50476877
Depends where you are. If you're basing out of a trade hub like Jita 4-4 you can buy everything there at the push of a button, but if you're out in the boonies you might have to fly around to find people selling the modules you need. Generally the modules for t1 exploration/mining frigates are readily available just about everywhere, though.
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>>50476723
Considering that they were using fucking Sleeper tech, that the clone soldiers are effectively Eclipse Phase pod morphs (mostly organic bodies with a stunted organic brain and a computer that the ego actually loads into) and that we saw what happened to Jamyl Sarum, there's definitely something wrong with them beyond the usual transhuman immortality jerk excuses.
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>>50476541
Start digging rocks. The dudes who call the shots are the ones with the deepest pockets as World War Bee proved.
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>>50476854
>and scan down data/relic sites
>data

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck nooooooooooooooooo.
>>>/vg/161422127
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>>50477073
I've gotten lucky a couple of times with data scanning, so it can be worth your while.
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>>50476877
>Time consuming

I tend to find it's not a question of time but rather how much you feel like getting fucked over by the jews selling it to you.
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>>50477814
Not an inefficient use of time. Relic sites have bigger payouts.
And relic sites have significantly more frequent payouts.
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>>50477814
i've scanned hundreds of both data and relic sites

relic sites drop BPC's more often and with better value than data sites. data sites are incredible garbage.
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>>50476723
I don't know why but calling immortal space wizards eggers is the funniest thing to me
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>>50476933
Worth noting: Second generation mercs do not suffer from the insanity defects that the original batch did. Once the mass production of the implants hit New Eden the defects stopped popping up.

Of course, that might be a matter of age, but IIRC there's no lore confirming or denying that yet.
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>>50478101
>data sites are incredible garbage.
Some BPOs and Skill Books are only available from Data Sites.
But even then, you typically get readily available trash.

Cargo Scanner -> Something Good? -> Anchor Mobile Depot -> Refit for Data Analyzer
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>>50431796
>Brave
There is your problem.
Bantering aside I haven't flown with brave though I've heard that Brave used to be really good when they were apart of Hero Coalition.
Though there are worse choices out there, you could be in FCON or RAZOR.
>>50431649
I joined in on the tail end of WWB. Joined up with TEST (NWFLT) and have been living in Vale ever since. Fighting NC. and Horde with CO2 during the Tribute war has been amazing.

Then NC. and Horde cried to daddy PL and GigX went full retard and attacked Darkness but that is life in Null sec for you.

>mfw the final battle for Co2's Keepstar is coming up.
>mfw this will be the first time a fully fitted Keepstar will be used in a battle.
>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bjTrPutt4k will literally happen.
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>>50478836
>That fucking song
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>>50430039
Lore wise, those are "Scout-Titans". There are bigger ones. Much bigger ones.
http://i.imgur.com/0pYpDcS.png

>>50447211
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/xenocracy/
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>>50478883
Yeah, but they are just dickwaving contest.
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>>50478883
Why would you make a scout so large?
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>>50429806
They are still worried but they have taken step to make sure that they are still in power. Mainly by tightening their grips on capsulers through various methods (Alpha clones for example).

The big new threat are The Drifters who are pretty much a combination of the Machines from The Matrix, and Vorlons except way more mysterious and nobody has a clue as to what the fuck that they want. They are responsible for various happenings around New Eden. The biggest being the assassination of Empress Jamyl Sarum of the Amarr Empire.
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>>50478920
Have you ever heard the phrase, 'reconnaissance-in-force'?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI53ydJaus8
I fucking hope Legion is gonna be good. I was never a consolefag but I wanted to play DUST so much.

>tfw no more shitposting in local from mercs
>tfw no more orbital bombing
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>>50478858
Here you go anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V117Ycxb6a0

CCP has their own In-house band "Permaband" and they make songs about eve every so often.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q
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Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A
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>>50478964
Is this the update where they fluffed pilots out as being clones?

Also, are the characters in the trailers actual people or just randos?
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>>50479000
I'd join the nose-hair tickling sneaker guys corp for sure!

Also, who are these faggots?
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>>50479000
Lmao what
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>>50478306
>not fitting both relic and data for those sweet sleeper caches
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>>50478964
Legion appears to be shaping up as a more arena-shooter type experience.

Which fucking sucks because I want my MTACs. Fucking CCP and their inability to optimize outdoor locations.
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>>50479003
You mean actual irl people or lore related? There's Empress Jamyl, Muriya Mordu and some DED dude whose name I forgot.

And this wasn't an update trailer. CCP sometimes does trailer to show onlythe vision or the path they are trying to take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFTUazuGdTw
In this one, for example, they showed the unification of EVE with DUST and Valkyrie. Unofrtunatelly dust died. Valkyrie seems to be alive for now. Consolefags like it I guess.

>>50479021
It's a parody of the official This is EVE trailer. This one doesn't have epic moments, but comms drama and nerdrage.

>>50479028
Welcome to EVE. There's this one guy who is still absolutelly upset because he evicted him from his wormhole and literally chased him out of his own account.
People get mad in this game.
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>>50479042
>nerdrage
I suppose its kinda like WoW raid tryhards but jacked up to eleven.
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>>50479042
Well at least the guy tickling nosehairs with his shoe seems to have a good time.
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>>50479003
That was the update where they introduced cross-play between EvE Online and DUST 514. Meaning DUST mercs could call in orbital bombardments from EvE pilots to help them secure ground installations.

Several of those characters in the cinematic are pretty important people. I'm pretty sure the Amarr woman is the former empress.
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>tfw you'll never be jove master race
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>>50479072
>former
RIP
https://youtu.be/GVoA_mLbwqo?t=1m13s
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>>50479000
Can you suss out any of the tards by voice?
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>>50479100
What the empress was a player?
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>>50479100
So the assassination was a player driven event? I mean it looked like it was scripted to explode, whats the point?
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>>50479100
Damn. They just gibbed the fucking titan. What the hell?
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>>50479123
A GM character more like.

>>50479133
We didn't actually knew if she is gonna get killed. We expected heavy happenings because Amarr was already at war with drifters. We just didn't expect instapop and gtfo.
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>>50479100
>mfw reading up on Empress Catiz
>Left her house and started her own mining buisness.
>Literally was out in belts in a Hulk when she started.
>Ended up amassing massive amounts of wealth and became a master business woman.
>She is literally the richest person in the entire EVE cluster.
>Richer than several of the Caldari Mega-Corperations combined.
>She is now Empress of the Amarr empire.
>Even Sanmatar Maleatu Shakor (leader of the Minmatar Republic) came to her coronation.
>Her first act as Empress was to get the Privy Cousil to declare that Capsuleers and cloned humans in general did in fact have souls and that cloning is not as heretical as it once was. "Purity of Flesh" still applies though.

Its going to be a fun ride folks
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I can't tell if this is a completely cozy setting or not
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>>50479021
There is a story behind that guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRUtEI3dPEM
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>>50479621
That's pretty fantastic
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>>50479731
It can be if you want, depends on how you play.

You can totally just cruise around making bank in a mining ship eating asteroids and managing a planetary outpost or two, only having to deal with the occasional NPC pirates (which means more money if you've got a ship that can salvage wrecks), or you could be one of those guys that hunt lone miners or part of a corp that takes part in big battles and shit.

It all depends on what you want to make out of it.
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>>50479800
Oops, meant to link to >>50479621
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Where the aliens at yo
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>>50480145
EvE doesn't really have any. New Eden was desolate before humans arrived.
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>>50480145
We are the aliens
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>>50479800
If I did want to be a pirate- how would I do that?

Would I have to invest tons of effort to get skills up, buy fancy expensive ships, etc, only to get the shit blown out of me second raid because I pissed of people who've played longer?
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>tfw Rogue drone storyline will prolly never continue
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Do you know what you are, capsuleer? The truth will not comfort you.
You are a frightened child running headfirst towards oblivion.

And I?
I am the only one who tried to stop you.
I am the Messiah that you turned against.

You persecuted me, hunted my children.
Vowed to burn my Promised Land to ash.


Now I have returned, and I know you better than you know yourself.

I will vanquish your fear, and commute your flesh to dust.

- Sansha Kuvakei
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>>50480530
Sansha can suck a dick
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In YC 115, after much heated discussion, CONCORD issued a decree stating the Hurricane-Class Battlecruiser was far too effective to stay under its current technological label, and demanded the Minmatar Republic to either cease production or sort it as a more technologically advanced craft. The Tribal Council grudgingly complied by releasing a simplified version of the Hurricane, then quickly exploited a loophole in the legislation and began using the original overpowered hull as part of its active fleet force. And that is how, after a new paint coat and renaming fees that the Hurricane Fleet Issue came to be.
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At the end of days when they descend
Watch for the coming of the Ark
For within it
Salvation is carried.

-The Scriptures, Apocalypse Verses 32:6
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Who the fuck IS Concord? How do they get funding and power enough to be able to tell the Empires what to do? It seems almost like a Fed government with how much stronger Concord and its ships are.
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>>50480615
https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/concord/
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>>50478973
I love how Permaband is just devs with instruments who take it as an excuse to take hilarious music videos and audio shitposts.

Woop woop its the sound of the spess police.
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>>50480478
No, the secret to being a pirate is that you will lose money doing it - so fly a cheap ship fitted well for pvp and buttfuck generalists or pve fitted ships. Frigs, destroyers, and cruisers are generally good options to start with. A BC is about as high as you want to go for solo/small gang unless you're in a group with instalocker tacklers/blappers, logi support, etc. and just sit at a gate/trade hub station undock in a corp that declared war on EVE Uni for free kills.

Pirates rarely make bank, they instead get paid in tears.
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I'm surprised that no one is worshipping the eggers honestly
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>>50481263
The blood raiders kinda do because they think cloned blood is super pure.
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>>50481263
I'm sure billions people pray to the capsuleers, hoping they'll join their gods in heaven. Probably not Amarrs though.
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>>50481269
Sorta there I suppose.

>>50481291
Might be, I wonder what impact a fully fledged capsuleer cult might have.
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>>50481317
None, it can only be fringe. I mean, these people are living in a sci-fi age, information is mostly freely available and stuff. Can't be too many people who really believe eggers are gods and not just fucked up humans with plenty augs.
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