> Party's recurring enemy is a team of their evil opposites

>>50387500
It's actually their good opposites

>>50387500
Does it count as 'evil opposite' when they're exact duplicates that are only mirroring the actions of the party?

By which I mean punching their duplicate in the face. Repeatedly.

>>50387500
Wasn't the water bender born without arms?

I like this idea, and taking more queues from the image I like the idea even more that they're the same kind of party but their senior and have become corrupted or incredibly jaded about the world.

>>50387500
I never actually did consider it. Maybe I should

>>50387500
hell, the Rise of the Runelords campaign I'm running is almost a dead-on mirror fight by pure coincidence

tiefling inquisitor of sarenrae : nualia
lewd elf wizard who wears her bonded ring in an auspicious place : lyrie
half-orc rogue whose player over-specced into CHA for some reason : tsuto (the bard aspect at least)
female half-orc rageaholic monk : bruthazmus

the only ones without analogs are the party's elf alchemist and orik vancaskerkin

of course, orik can join the party and the h-orc monk's player is likely to betray the group at any time, so maybe the mirror mirror thing is more like a bundle of mirrored traits

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>>50387500

I'm planning a Necronica one-shot about the PCs recovering stolen memories from a creature that devours dreams and learning about their lives before humanity accidentallied itself by literally beating up physical manifestations of their own mental issues

So, I guess you're right. Fug

>>50387500
Who doesn't love that shit?

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>>50387558
>Wasn't the water bender born without arms?
yeah it's a fanart, they took some liberties

despite everything they've done I will never not find the Red Lotus adorable

>>50387515
This, they're optimized, they're way better than them.

>>50387500
>Done this
I've run at least a dozen games and I've never done this.

>Considered doing this
Yeah, when people brought it up in threads on /tg/ it got me wondering if it was an idea I could use and I always decided it wasn't.

>had it happen to you
I'm a foreverGM and have been a player only for two or three really short games. Never happened.

Zaheer did nothing wrong

>>50388423
Could you imagine the good they could have done if they hadn't been a bunch of dipshits? Fuck. I wish the show had been about them being good guys or bad guys, rather than Korra being fucking retarded for four seasons.

>>50388457
They killed the earth queen, that was pretty good

Is just me of seemed like fate was against Korra?
Non bender dude who knows more than anyone ever of airbending suddenly gets airbending powers and knows how to perfectly use them, beyond capabilities of experienced masters, in a couple of days, this sounds like cunt GM shenanigans to be honest.

>>50388453
tried to kill a mentally retarded girl

>>50388463
It was euthanasia

>>50388453
Making Zaheer more likable, interesting, and badass than Korra was a mistake, but at least elevated Season 3 to the point it's the only Korra season (Alongside the Amon parts of Season 1) that can stand up to Avatar

>>50388457
I still want a Red Lotus prequel show
>they get brought together as teenagers, all coming from some kind of hardship
>as they train and fight together they develop their friendship and all learn their unique bending skills
>seeing young brawler Zaheer grow into a calm and focused team leader
I need this shit

>hey look, I suddenly know lavabending just because

>>50388462
The thing with Zaheer was he was badass normal who suddenly got magic

the reason he suddenly got magic is because of the consequences of the MC's actions

So it's slightly bullshit.

Korra it basically what happens when a GM tries to use a setting twice but with a different group the second time.

The GM picked the most experienced player to be the avatar, not expecting them to turn into a murderhobo retard

So much so he had to keep slapping GMPC's in to keep the game on track

He probably should've just let the players have fun being pro benders and brought the Amon plot point back later.

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>>50388462
>beyond capabilities of experienced masters
Zaheer got wrecked when he went up against Tenzin. Even Kya gave him a run for his money. He only won the Tenzin fight because he had friends to help him
>tfw the villains are better at using the power of friendship than the heroes
The writers really fucked up with LoK

>>50388494
while I have a certain level of leeway for the whole 'natural talent' thing it still would have been a lot more interesting if after the first encounter with Ghazan Bolin had started to think about Lavabending and how it works, the tunnel could still be the first time he manages, but at least show that he has an idea as to how it works first

>>50388505
>Zaheer got wrecked when he went up against Tenzin
? Did we watch the same fight? it looked more like Zaheer was playing with Tenzin

>>50387500
I have considered doing pretty much everything. Your statement hits too broad to be meaningful.

>>50388512
watch it again, Tenzin counters anything Zaheer throws at him and is able to land a lot of good hits on him, after a while Zaheer just starts straight up fleeing until the rest of the RL arrives

>>50388512
Zaheer was having fun with his bending powers. That, IMO, is why he was the superior bender - he exemplified the joy of the art, which gives him more natural talent than dour old Tenzin, who won by virtue of much more experience.

Zaheer literally an evil Aang

>>50388512
Not at all. Zaheer was struggling against Tenzin and only managed to beat him when he got help.

Come on now, that is the single non-jobbing moment of Tenzin, don't take that away from him. Tenzin is meant to be very powerful, it's just that Amon was ridiculously OP and Season 2 was a trainwreck

>>50388536
Tenzin did really good in S1 vs the Equalist army, fucker was beating giant robots with air

>>50388512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHlqmwI-Bd0
Apparently we did. Zaheer spent the whole fight either fleeing or on the defensive. He doesn't land a single blow and gets tripped up/hit several times. He can't beat Tenzin on his own. Even against Kya he fubles and trips up when trying to airbend.

I think the choreographers did a great job showing that he was essentially just a very talented newbie

>>50388546
>I think the choreographers did a great job showing that he was essentially just a very talented newbie
one thing I actually noticed when rewatching season 3 (just the Red Lotus scenes) was when Zaheer went through the spinning gates, he didn't approach it like an Airbender, the way Jinora did in season 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SohkMovvxHI instead he powers through, much like Korra tried to do except he had the speed and agility to pull it off, he ran through and zagged and rolled when needed to avoid them but he didn't go with the flow like an Airbender should. He has the surface appearance right (he got through the gates after all) but not the underlying principle (much like his version of Airbender philosophy actually)

>>50388535
>Zaheer literally an evil Aang
Even down to his character growth. Where Aang refuses to detach from the world and finds another way to ascend to the next level, Zaheer gets his girlfriend's head blown up and abandons all earthly tethers to achieve evil enlightenment. Guy is pure bizarro Aang. Season should've been entirely about him.

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>>50388423
Giving manlets hope

>>50388587
He's also still alive so he still has the potential to return as an even more powerful villain if they ever do a third show, hopefully far far away from Nickelodeon

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>>50388587
Zaheer...Zaheer had a hard life

>>50388594
is the guy on the right looking at P'li or Ghazan?

>>50388607
He's the one who got them killed on the insane crap shoot that was his philosophy. I like Zaheer as a character, but I think the most evil thing he did was convincing people that the Red Lotus was a good idea.

>>50388614
>tumblr
Take a wild guess.

>>50388614
he looks like a male Tracer

>>50388618
He stayed true to his beliefs, much like Aang. They just weren't very good ones.

>>50388602
Don't think so, he even helped Korra in s4

>>50388627
Are you insinuating that 4chan is any less gay than tumblr? Have you been to any of the porn boards? Or /fit/?

>>50388462

Zaheer's whole strenght came from the fact that nobody had experience with fighting against air-benders.

So he had a bunch of advantages
>weeaboo interest in air nomads, so he understands better than your average guy
>already experienced with fighting benders in his past I presume, even as a non-bender
>little to no one ever fought against an air-bender, giving him an edge

And as others said, the moment he goes against someone experienced with airbending, he absolutely gets his ass handed to him and it shows that he has little actual prowess with airbending itself.

>>50388643
Nah, but 4chan only does lesbian or futa fanart, tumblr has the monopoly on this.

>>50388643
4chan doesn't worship gayness like tumblr does.

>>50388639
he helped Korra (and was probably a better spiritual teacher than Tenzin) because he hated dictators more than probably anything else, it's the antithesis to his own philosophy, if he had the chance he'd go straight back to trying to enact anarchism across the world

>>50388656
Then why is every OP a faggot?

>>50388665
OPs are for bullying.

>>50388660
But during his talk with her he seemed to acknowledge that Kuvira's rise to power was a direct result of him trying to force anarchy. If he's at all a smart guy that would be the point where he realized people don't want anarchy and will bow to the devil to avoid it.

>>50388646

Lets not forget that the number of air benders in history who wantonly use their art specifically to maim and kill are virtually non existent. Evil air benders are absolutely to be feared.

Zaheer had what a few months of practice and was able to somewhat keep up with Tenzin who has had 40 odd years of practice under the tutelage of the avatar.

Red Lotus team were cool... but unfortunately were too cool. They had more team chemistry than team avatar. Shame.

>>50388752
It was less that they were too cool and more that the Korra Krew was too uncool. They were barely even in the same scenes together.

>>50388766
>They were barely even in the same scenes together
that seemed to be the issue, there wasn't a team dynamic for the Krew because there were barely any scenes with all of them together, by contrast every Red Lotus scene had the entire group so we can see how they all interact as a team

>>50387613
I feel like I just spoiled myself Mike

>>50388683
He could probably argue that he left the job rather unfinished. After all, just one part of the world had no leader. Everywhere else still had lords, chiefs and leaders, and the Avatar was still alive.
Him being locked up is probably his justification for how things turned out.

Even behind bars, he'd prefer whatever the Avatar had in mind over Not-Hitler

>>50387613
>rageholic
>3.PF monk

>>50388806
He didn't hate Korra or the Avatar but what it represents

>>50388423
Damn, Amon is swole, how can those limp wristed faggots even compete

>>50388826
When did I say he did?

Guys how would you

>Fix Legend of Korra?

>>50388864
Have the same villain (Amon) for all the seasons

>>50388864
There is no fix, you need to change the entire series from ground up. The "good" version of LoK would have only superficial resemblance to the version we got.

>>50388831
They can't. Amon was absolutely OP. Took lightning to the face, out-skilled and defeated everyone who faced him through psychic bloodbending (an art so powerful even great waterbenders could only do it with the full moon, and that was just regular bloodbending) and was literally only defeated by deus ex machina.

>>50388779
Did you really want them to have scenes together?

Asami was there just to be forced sexual tension in Season 1, Mako's useless booty call in Season 2, literally-who in Season 3 and a prize for Korra in Season 4.

Bolin was too much of an obvious, failed attempt at re-creating Sokka.

Korra was wholly unlikable and her personality and character development came and went depending on the episode.

And Mako is probably the worst character in all of Avatar.

Meanwhile, the second you see Zaheer's breakout you want to see more of him.

>>50388480
>likable, interesting, badass

Did you really watch the show?
He was a mary-sue faggot who beat everyone for literally no reason. Felt good watching Tenzin school is ass.

>>50388850
I wasn't correcting you, just adding

>>50388864
Outline three full seasons before starting work on the first. Establish Amon as the BBEG and have him across all three seasons. Focus more on character development and making the main cast likable. Drop all the Dark Avatar bullshit. Actually answer some of the questions left after ATLA.

>>50388883
> That entire first half of S2, where Korra becomes a complete asshole for no reason
> That scene where Korra crashes into Mako's workplace, kicks the desk down and shouts at him for no reason
> WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON, MAKO?!
> Literally in every episode until her convenient amnesia.
For what fucking purpose? Also
> That fucking amnesia
Also for what purpose? No, seriously, what purpose did it serve? I honestly don't get it. And if they had to had amnesia for some reason, why not do the Nolan?

> First episode
> Fire sages find Korra
> "Oh my god, Avatar Korra, how did you end up here? Are you okay?"
> "Who's Korra?"

Then come the flashbacks, where we find out how she got there. Not that it would be THAT much better, but it would be certainly the improvement.

>>50388864
>Amon is legit scarred
>Korra through learning to let go after losing her bending unlocks air bending but only air bending
>Final fight for republic city is a three way battle between korra, tarrlock and amon
>Amon defeated but disappears but Tarrlock looks like the hero

This sets the stage for season 2 where Tarrlock rallies bender supremacists to rule Republic City and assert themselves over all non benders

>>50388864
>don't just make the whole Equalizers movement disappear just because Amon happened to be a bender, it's not like all the ill sentiments magically disappear
>remove the entirety of season 2
>alternatively, just remove dark-avatar bullshit and make it about bender supremacy instead, to contrast previous season
>keep a consistent theme like that throughout the series

>>50388948
Better idea - don't make Amon a bender. Make him an actual evil Batman, who got his bending removal ability from spirits. After all, we know that not all spirits are benevolent and reasonable.

>>50388864
Don't go past Season 1.
Give Sokka kids.

>>50388986
Why would spirits ever want to limit magical access to our world? Unless they're just being douchebags who want to stir shit for no reason.

>>50388864
The seasons needed to tie together better.

Taarloc should have succeeded in season 1 and gone full bender supremacist. Season 2 Korra realises how much she fucked up and goes on a journey, not to learn bending, but to learn to understand people better after her sheltered upbringing and rely less on brute force to solve problems. Over the course of season 3 she builds a relationship with the equalist movement and then season 4 is her coming back and liberating republic city.

>>50389013
>douchebags who want to stir shit for no reason.
works for me

>>50388876
This
The show suffered a bit for not having a main bad guy the entire show
Plus Amon was almost Azula tier

>>50389017
That's a much better story arc, though I think it would have to be settled more with both's sides realizing they can't just trample on other people's rights. Kinda like how Korra has to realize the same thing about herself.

>>50389013
>Unless they're just being douchebags who want to stir shit for no reason
s2 onwards makes them out to be exactly that

>>50389104
Isn't it just the one? Like they introduced some contrived light vs dark struggle with spirits for no reason?

>>50388891
>beat everyone
>Tenzin school his ass
you see no contradiction here?

>>50389013
It can be just one spirit. Someone with a grudge against the avatar, maybe? Someone like Koh or Wan Shi Tong, or even someone completely new, could have wanted it. Not necessarily even to end bending - just to fuck up the Avatar specifically.

>>50389123
>Like they introduced some contrived light vs dark struggle with spirits for no reason?
Yeah, not only is it almost midichlorians-tier in "explaining the mythos for no reasons", straight up good and evil are stupid for a character who's all about balance.

>>50389123
They showed spirits before the avatar, and they were all assholes hostile to humans for no reason. Korra opened the spirit gates or whatever, and the spirits infested republic city with spirit vines in s3 for no reason. Korra tried to negotiate with them but they were unreasonable. Then the story forgot about it.

Spirits are total assholes for no reason.

>>50389231
The Painted Lazy, she was just a lazy shit who had to have Katara do her job.

>>50389128
You do really have some level of autism.
It's crystal clear the guy meant he beat everyone until faced against Tenzin.

>>50389264
except Kya, who he had to run away from and spent most of the fight with getting knocked down

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>>50388594
>Giving manlets hope
I think P'li's just oddly tall, she's also taller than Ghazan who's a pretty big guy, I think Zaheer's just average

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>>50388864
The retarded speculative fanfic I came up with in season1

>exactly the same up the unmasking of Amon
>turns out he's not a bloodbender or a waterbender, or even a human
>he's a spirit
>his plot was a ruse all along
>attacks Korra and traps her in the spirit world, leaving behind her comatose body
>the spirits are mad at humanity because [reasons, probably enviromental]
>a giant portal opens up above the probending arena
>spirits start pouring down
>cliffhanger season finale

Kamigawa: Republic City Edition

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>>50389374
>who's a pretty big guy
For you.

>>50389412
>exactly the same up the unmasking of Amon
>leaving the frustrating love triangle and drawn out probending arc intact
failed right out the gate

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>>50388891
I mean, the entire point of the Air Nomads being peaceful is because airbending is broken as fuck.

This is Monk Gyatso - Aangs teacher. He fucking wrecked tens of Sozins-comet juiced firebenders ALONE.

There's a reason why airbenders are pacifists.

> It's "Korra gets easily tricked by an obviously evil villain" episode
Literally every fucking season. God dammit.

>>50389454
For some dumb reason I never realised that all those fire benders where juiced up under the influence of Sozins comet
I found it already impressive what Gyatso could do against all those fire benders, but fuck, I never knew that he was that strong

>>50389449
I'm not even sure how to fix Mako and Bolin, they're such boring characters.

>>50389130
>>50389412
>>50388864
>>50388876
>>50388883

People originally theorized it was Koh because of the whole mask thing.

One idea I had that I liked was that Amon wasn't sealing peoples bending - he was STEALING it. That is, he was taking the powers from them, slowly becoming his own sort of Avatar.

This is why Korra loses all her bending BUT Airbending - she previously didn't have it. She always had the capability to have it, because Avatar. But she couldn't airbend when Amon steals her powers. That means it's the ONLY power left to her. Meanwhile Amon has stolen 3/4ths the power of the fucking Avatar and continues to inhale other benders like Kirby in a fucking candy factory. He's basically unbeatable. In order to even hope to challenge him, Korra has to travel the world to various places of power, project herself over to the spirit world, and seek out the Turtle Dragons to reclaim her bending powers - all while trying to learn Airbending from Tenzin.

Season 2 introduces to the Red Lotus, who themselves aren't pro avatar, but Amon is an even worse threat. With the chaos brought on by Amon, and the Avatar having lost her powers, the leaders of the White Lotus have freed the Red Lotus, despite knowing how dangerous they are, and dispatched them to try and fight Amon's forces and help Korra. So you have Tenzin AND Zaheer training Korra, each influencing them with their yin and yang good and evil chaos and law bullshit. Tenzin eventually gets his own airbending powers by piggybacking onto Korra into the spirit realm and finding the Air Dragon-Turtle.

Season 3 is about the Republic beginning a counter offensive with the aid of the Fire Nation, and Team Avatar confronting corruption in the Earth and Water nations that would prevent them from joining the Alliance to retake Republic City, Amon's seat of power. The Earth Queen and crazy Water Bible Thumper are both confronted and defeated as mini-villains.

>>50389542
Season 4 is the retaking of Republic City, and Korra fighting and defeating Amon - who it turns out had no ulterior motive all along. He became a God literally so no one would be able to use bending to oppress others, and was going to seal himself away after. Korra defeats him, returning bending powers to all who have lost it, and rebalancing the spirit world.

But thats not the climax

The Climax is Korra vs the Red Lotus, who have been gaining in strength alongside Korra as her temporary allies for two and a half seasons, and now that Amon is out of the way they see an opening to take out the Avatar and stop the whole bullshit cycle. The climax is Korra and her team against Zaheer and his team, winning through the power of Teamwork(C) and Friendship(TM) in the end. Plus Korra finally 'gets' spiritualism and achieves zen.

>>50389542
I dig it, though there's a bit of a repeat there with the "the Avatar has to travel the world to master the elements and save the world from the power-hungry bad guy".

Amon was interesting (up until the stupid reveal) because he didn't seem to be after power.

>>50389566
I agree with this whole-heartedly. Holy fuck I want this show now.

>>50389542
This is not good

>>50389580
>>50389566
Nevermind.

>>50389528
Top tier Air Nomads are BEAST - there's a reason everyone stopped fighting while Yangchen was the avatar.

>>50389629
That and Yangchen gave zero fucks. She would do whatever was necessary to ensure balance.

>>50389606
>>50389611
Going to explain why? The final conflict with Zaheer can be dropped, hell, he could even go off and become the leader of his own faction. The world has undergone a great deal of turmoil due to the Avatar in the past few centuries.

In my mind the division between Red Lotus and White Lotus is a purely philosophical one, based around a single important question: How does humanity deal with the Avatar?

The Avatar is not a Human office. The Avatar is empowered by and sent by the spirits in order to maintain balance. The Avatar is an agent of the spirit world, to prevent humanity from imbalancing it, and to prevent the spirit world from leaking into the human world and vice versa. How they accomplish this is purely up to them

The White Lotus see co-operation with to be the best option, dealing with the Avatar and the spirit world on friendly terms and guiding them to be mediators that help humans get along and avoiding trouble with the spirit world.

The Red Lotus are isolationists who think the best way to maintain balance is to shut out the spirit world, who are unwanted invaders sometimes. The Avatar is a foreign agent, and needs to be controlled or destroyed - they have too much power and don't necessarily have humanities best interests at heart.

Just as ATLA saw the rise of the White Lotus to a major faction, ATLOK could see the rise of the Red Lotus.

And of course, a third show about a different Avatar would play out that inevitable conflict.

>>50389695
To expand on this, instead of being an assmad Bloodbender, Amon could be a former disciple of the Red Lotus, and a friend or even student of Zaheer who decides to go one step further, pursue forbidden teachings, and become an Avatar with HUMANITIES best interests at heart, removing all spirit world originated conflict and inequality (bending) and ushering in a new golden era for mortals, becoming a sort of god emperor using his tremendous mystical might to perminantly sever the ties between the material and spirit world - not realizing or perhaps not caring about the catastrophic or even world ending effects this would have

>>50389733
>Amon could be a former disciple of the Red Lotus, and a friend or even student of Zaheer
Imagine the shipping.

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>>50389747
>Zaheer/Amon/Muscle-Fire-Babe love triangle
>Water arms girl secretly loved Amon too
>Forever Alone Lava Bender secretly loves Water Arms

I always thought waterbending, bloodbending notwithstanding, was the most potentially broken type of bending.

Katara was pretty beast herself and she was only like 16

>>50389784
I think the problem with waterbending is that it's offensive potential is basically maxed with bloodbending - there's not much else you can do in-universe.

With airbending you still have so much potential that has not yet been explored because the airbenders were pacifistic nomads.

>>50389784
Blood Bending is basically only forbidden specifically because it's so dangerous and horrific everyone would probably exterminate the water benders if it was widely practiced

The insane damage the Waterbenders can already do with regular water bending is enough

>>50389784
I'd say waterbending is the most versatile, airbending has the most potential in bending combat (though it's possible that less talented airbenders are pushovers, since it's not a very offensive type), and earthbending is the best at fucking shit up in general.

Firebending is the weakest but would probably be a lot more powerful if this wasn't a kid's show. Contact or even proximity with fire is a lot more dangerous than what most fictional universe show.

>>50388864
Remove
>Korra (as executed, on paper she's fine)
>80% of the romance bullshit
add
>2 more seasons of Amon being the BBEG,

>>50389374
>>50388594
>tfw 5'4-5~
>tfw gf 5'10+~

>>50389695
>This is why Korra loses all her bending BUT Airbending - she previously didn't have it. She always had the capability to have it, because Avatar. But she couldn't airbend when Amon steals her powers. That means it's the ONLY power left to her. Meanwhile Amon has stolen 3/4ths the power of the fucking Avatar and continues to inhale other benders like Kirby in a fucking candy factory. He's basically unbeatable.
This part makes no sense. Your explanation for why Korra didn't lose airbending is confusing and convoluted. She's capable of bending all the elements but because she hadn't learned how to use her airbending Amon couldn't absorb that capability? But because she didn't know how to use it she didn't actually have it? so she suddenly gets it when she loses the other three? Huh?

Amon absorbing bending to become more powerful makes no sense. Bending is largely skill based; you can't have "more" bending than someone else (barring the different elements), you are just more skilled at utilizing it. Bending doesn't have a measurable quantity that can be hoarded.

Utilizing the dragon turtles is bad, because the concept of the turtles granting bending is bad. It erases the eastern ideas of inner potential, training and natural elemental affinity and replaces them with deus ex machina power ups. It should've never been in the show and recycling it is a bad idea.

The Red Lotus' goals have little conflict with Amon's. As you've described it, Amon has no desire to rule and simply wishes to remove the potential for oppression; same thing Red Lotus wants. They have little reason to view him as a threat.

>>50389868
So just treat the show as a proper three season show, rather then the "this is the last season, wait no it isn't bull shit

>>50389640
It's remarkable that even under someone as Kyoshi people still tried to do shit, but everyone feared Yangchen

>>50389901
Kyoshi largely ignored the world until shit got very bad, then she cam down with the iron hand

>>50389901
Maybe Kuruk just turned the Avatar into a joke in the eyes of the population, and Kyoshi had to spend her entire life undoing the damage.

The Water Tribe produces the worst Avatars.

>>50389792
The cat got out of the bag eventually, Katara managed to put a worldwide ban on bloodbending so she had to break it to the public at some point

>>50389918
Fucking pole-hippies.

>>50390009
The Air Nomads are the hippies, the Water Tribes are just ass-backwards.

>>50389888
The turtles giving humans bending was shit, I agree with you on that.

But having them restore the avatar's bending makes enough sense, they're spirits after all, and the avatar is the bridge.

Also while bending is skill-based, energy bending is still canon, and Amon can use that to steal people's elemental affinity for himself. The show pretending he had energy bending up until the moment it turned out he was a crappy bloodbending prodigy OC, so it'd be easy to manage it.

As he garners more elemental affinity, enough to rival even the avatar, the creatures of the elements start working for him, and spirits start to like him.

And then you can have Koh play a part, too.

>>50388864
Season 1:
>Erase love triangle and shrink the probending arc to perhaps two episodes (amon's destruction of the ring leaving mako/bolin back on the streets for a while before the true climax), focus on team building, characterization of the main cast and elaboration on republic city as a setting
>the social inequality in republic city is actually played up so that the equalists actually seem to have a legitimate grievance
>Asami's dad is revealed as an Amon supporter much earlier, given a more legit reason to disdain benders (perhaps grew up largely oppressed by the bending gangs, maybe still being pressed by them despite all his wealth)
>Asami herself is introduced primarily to be an opposite to Korra whom with she eventually forms a strong bond, bridging the divide between benders and non-benders.
>Amon and Tarrlok are not related, the Yakone plot is abandoned
>Tarrlok is a well intentioned extremist and represents an equal opposite to Amon. The ongoing battle for the city between Amon and Tarrlok, both using oppressive methods, is highlighted a bit more.
>Amon is truly a non-bender. How he removes bending is not important (maybe just a very good chi blocker, maybe he figured out the pre-avatar "people just bent the energy within" stuff, maybe Koh told him how or some shit, whatever)
>Korra defeats him not with raw physical might but by diffusing his movement, pointing out how benders and non-benderss have more alike than they have different. Bolin/Mako serve as representatives of disadvantaged benders, Asami as a representative of advantaged non-benders
>Hiroshi in the end comes over to his daughters way of thinking and sides with the avatar, serving the show the fracture in the equalist movement.
>both Tarrlok and Amon are imprisoned, but the debended benders aren't instantly fixed, which plays into the next season. Korra is never debent herself, but begins seeking spiritual aid for the sake of helping others, playing into her character growth.

>>50390294
Season 2:
>Korra goes to her uncle in the northern water tribe to better understand spirits, spirituality, etc so she can heal the debent benders
>Korra discovers unrest in the spirit world, possibly playing into Amon's actions in season 1 if it turned out his source of power was Koh or something. Alternately the spirits could just be upset about their dwindling relevance to modern humans
>Maybe keep the civil war idea. Korra goes along with it due to her recent experiences in uniting republic city leading her to think it's a good idea
>Unalak/dark avatar plots completely abandoned; Unalak genuinely believes pushing spiritual awareness on the rest of the water tribe will satisfy the spirits
>The Wan episodes need to be completely rebuilt. I'm not qualified for that extensive of an overhaul, but the ending idea must be a solution for balancing the needs of the people and the spirits. Also spirits aren't characterized as total assholes
>the spirit portals (or some equivalent) are still opened in order to give back bending to those who lost it in season 1, along with the side effect of returning airbending
>the season ends with the idea that the spirits and mankind can reach a compromise that allows both to flourish

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Never saw Korra because I didn't finish the first show, but if Korra is really the worst show ever written in the history of mankind, then why did you all bother to watch it all the way through?

Like is it just nitpicking/mourning over wasted potential of what was still an entertaining show or is it just the whole hate boner 4chan gets whenever a franchise decides to introduce a female protag in it?

>>50387500
An idea for that DM I've read about somewhere.
Allow players to create their dream characters.
>Monster/homebrew races?
>No level adjustment?
>Whatever other OP bullshit they can think of?
>Sure why not

Then you take these characters as an NPC party, and players have to make another batch.

>>50387500
I have two teams of 'nega-PCs,' though they don't line up directly and only one is likely to be fought.

>>50390571
It's not downright horrible, it's just disappointing and filled with wasted potential.

>>50390571
People wanted it to be as good as the original since many anons grew up with avatar.

It didn't live up to their expectations and they're understandably bitter.

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>>50390571

>>50390606
This. It's wasted potential the show

Also Korra makes my dick diamonds

>>50390427
Season 3:
>most of it stays the same, with a return to the teambuilding themes of the overhauled season 1 to parellel the strong team dynamics of the Red Lotus. This season could also be used to build on Asami/Korra's friendship and evolve it into proper romance
>Kuvira is added as a temporary member of the team, aiding in the capture of the Red Lotus. During this time she forms bonds with the krew, possibly becoming a love interest of Bolin in place of Opal
>Season resolves pretty much the same way, with Korra injured and needing to spend time away.
I got nothing for season 4, but obviously the friendship angle between Kuvira and the krew could be played up. Maybe turn Kuvira into less Hitler and more Genghis Khan, forcing unity through violence. Also involve spirits in a more personal way than spirit vine weapons and a giant fucking mech for no reason,

>>50390571
It's far from downright horrible
It's just wasted potential from time to time
Season 1 is really god and Season 3 is on par with AtlA
Season 2 starts with an alright premise of civil war and how the Avatar may fit in that, but gets real bad real quick
Season 4 starts of pretty good as well, dealing with the shit that was caused in Season 3, but clearly some budget cuts were made halfway and the season suffered for it

All in all, if one likes AtlA, Season 1 and 3 are worth the time, Season 2 has the Avatar Wan episodes which are good
Season 4 has nothing really worth the time though, but it's on average better than 2
1=3>4>2

>>50390571
The hype was immense. People simply refused to acknowledge it's flaws until a long way in.
I gave up after season 3. It was decent for once, but I just didn't have the will left to go through all that one more time.

>>50390582
That would really be an >that DM action
Especially if one of the players would put a lot of effort in his PC in backstory and characterization

>>50390656
>Season 1 is really god
No. The disaster was clear as early as then and the season made many missteps. IT was mediocre at best

>>50390571
Wasted potential is worse than no potential

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>>50387500
I prefer the Four Generals method of recurring enemies, but that's because the antagonists in games I run tend to be highly organized and hierarchical.

My players really want this to happen with the old party before they failed the campaign and thw world stopped existing. I tell them that but they think im being cheeky and we're gonna come across the old party still

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>>50387558
Sounds like fate/stay night

>>50390793
THE TRUTH IS AGONIZING

>>50390448
It was a shitty, shitty show besides a rare few moments like this. Fuck, that's a hilarious way to go.

>>50390571
Korra is too much of Aang antipode to actually be a hero. She never has the ability to resolve the conflict and instead someone needs to finish what she starts, in every major conflict.

>>50390871
It wasn't shown because we ARE talking about a cartoon aimed at tweens but Jesus Christ imagine the aftermath.
One moment there was a pretty head there, now it's jagged metal and chunky salsa.

>>50390913
I imagine you had half-cooked meat squirting out the cracks in the breastplate. Christ, imagine the smell.

>>50390732
I love the idea of rival adventuring parties Why wouldn't another group be trying to save the princess? Why would the party be the only people looking for the bounty on the theif's head? Were only 3-5 people really stupid and/or brave enough to go after the treasure?

>>50390935
>"Just in the nick of time dear sister, thank goodness you saved m- oh by the gods... I- I think I'm gonna be sick."
>"You've clearly never seen a car crash have you? You get used to it... But I have to admit the smell IS atrocious though."
>"Do they always, uh, let loose after th-"
>"Yes."
>"Ugh, I think I got some bone on me."

>>50389026

The Red Lotus is the main villain in the series

Amon, Un'alach(?) and the other 4 are all Red Lotus

>>50389441
It never gets old.

>>50391050
Unalak was already Red Lotus

>>50391026
It seems I mixed the two sisters up but still, I imagine something similar must have happened afterwards.

>>50391050
Amon wasn't Red Lotus
Unalaq was tho
Kuvira wasn't Red Lotus either

>>50391148
I think they were recommending improvements, not saying what actually happened

>>50387500
Nope. I prefer the whole, "It's in your head" route. So they created their own worst enemy.

Never had it happen to me either, since none of my friends Can run a campaign long enough to have a reoccuring villain.

>>50389987
Couldn't blood bending have healing applications though?

>>50391549
Absolutely, but Water Tribe is so inherently prone to sadistic tendencies that they couldn't think beyond such horrific acts. They truly are a plague that should be expunged.

>>50387500
Pretty much happening now. Every enemy faction in the campaign is basically quirky miniboss squads that have their own party dynamics and often appear in side-stories accompanied by their own banter and conflict.

>>50387500
Never even considered applying it, because:
1) It's a stupid cliche that is simply boring and uninspired
2) The party has no need for recurring enemy, because combat in RPG is all about escalation, thus killing things to their fucking death. Twice
3) Every GM that used this on me run just huge-ass exaggerations of traits the original characters didn't even have

In short, it's shit, you are shit and you should feel bad about it.

>>50391549
>Quadraplegic bloodbender who uses bloodbending to walk

>>50392256
>being this mad about fictional role playing games on a vietnamese picture website

>>50392328
Blessed are people who never had shit GM, as they don't know the pain it brings

>>50388503
>Last Airbender has Earthbenders pro-wrestling
>Fun times, great characters, doesn't overstay its welcome
>Legend of Korra has 'Pro-Bending'.
>It's like MMA: drags on too damn long, overly-complicated rules, and in the end it's still rigged.

>>50392406
Anon, are you surprised or something? Everyone knows Korra was just shit that backfired badly, and the longer it was running, the worse it was getting

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>>50392406
Pro Bending would've been cooler if they had The Boulder

>>50392573
Introducing an undefeatable opponent that early in the series would have made the BBEGs that get taken down in one season be far too unsatisfying though.

>>50392607
Just think of him as the Tom Bombadil
He exists to show the youngsters that they have anyone way to go, and to inspire them to become strong enough to achieve their destiny.

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>>50390674
This. It's alright,
It might be a letdown from the original but starting to shriek about "worst evarrrr!!"just makes it obvious how much of a manchild you are.

>>50390294
>Hiroshi in the end comes over to his daughters way of thinking and sides with the avatar, serving the show the fracture in the equalist movement.
I'd prefer it to stay how it was in the show. It was one of the redeeming moments, especially how things patched up later in s4.

>>50390448
That scene blew up my mind.

>>50390571

Those episodes with Avatar Wan made me wish the show was about the first Avatar instead.

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>>50393442

>>50387500
>Face it, you've either done this, considered doing this or had it happen to you.

It's literally one of my favorite cliches.

>>50393411
Well anything that shows the equalist movement losing supporters works. Hiroshi just seemed the most relevant to existing characters

>>50390656
Season 1 had shitty pacing and ruinously bad villains by the end.

And the Wan episodes were shit in hindsight. They basically wasted the opportunity to use recognizable spirits from AtLA. How cool would it have been to have Koh there?

It also ruined the AtLA setting detail that dragons are extinct. Turns out they can just fly over to the poles and go into the spirit world.

Also the two spermsquids are a cancer on the setting. The avatar is the spirit of the world, not this bullshit.

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Only redeeming part of s2 was Iroh

>>50394152

I feel like all you need to do to make the Equalist movement's transition post-Amon work is flesh out the election, and position towards Equalist prisoners and the status of the failed revolution, of President Raiko. Working within limited time as they were, the city going from an unelected all-bender council appointed by the nations of the world to a nonbending scientist Sun Yat Seen lookalike elected by the citizens of the United Republic was a pretty great way to signify the lasting impact of Equalism even after being discredited by Amon's reveal.

The show of the increasing power of non-aristocrat nonbenders such as Varrick, the world's richest man, was also good.

>>50394934
>Not voiced by Mako
It's shit

>>50390448

>CLANG
>beat
>P'LI!

I had to pause the episode there because I was taken aback by the brutality

it was truly a way noone wants to go

a second of horror, and then instant death

I got back to in in an hour or so

>>50394937
Fuck what everyone says, Varrick was garbage

>>50387500
Of course I do this. My players spend all of their time optimizing their characters and creating strategies for success. one of the nastiest things you can do is turn their strategies against them.

>>50388916
Can't block the tarrloq. Make avatar great again.

My campaign has a group of returning bad guys who did eventually party up to contest the party as a group, each managing to either escape barely or getting busted out of prison, be spared by the party or saved at the last moment.

Two arrogant big-game hunter bandits who never took no for an awnser and encounters usually ran to the note of "Oh ye bastards, ye can't fool us, we know you're after the hydra but it's us who are killing it not sayin' there won't be enough trophy heads for all of us but I bet you didn't even bring the acid, look at these clowns. Just passing through, bah like we'd beleive that right gaz? Alright lads throw down!" escalating to sabotaging their boat or otherwise hindering the party progress with their antics, eventually returning as bandit leaders a bit later.

A self proclaimed queen of the skies harpy assassin, who first betrayed the party by posing as an old lady seer claiming she spies visions of the players being struck down by a masterful assassin but she needs a relic from a nearby dungeon, the daggers of true sight, to fully complete her vision. Upon getting the daggers, she continued the "Ritual", talking about how beautiful the assassin to cross their paths was, and how her plan was so cunning and thought out that the stupid adventurers didn't see it coming and got entirely duped. She then hurls the table over them and takes to the sky, laughing wildly as she flies away thanking them for their service.

A mercenary troll, hired by goblins the party encountered very early on as pretty much their first quest, upon being killed he rolls into the river and his body floats away. A bit later they encounter him once more in a bandit camp, but once they use fire on him he runs away screaming. When they fight him next he is now wearing a magical cloak of fire-resistance.

Next post.

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>>50390448
Here, thank me later

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>>50395662
A goblin mage, again a bounty hunter hired to capture the party with his powerful geomancy. They only really encountered this guy once but heard about him a few times in village rumours. "Oh did you hear? Some little green fellow held fort ruckshire ransom!" "How did he do that?" "Apparently he kept just sneaking up in the night and using his stone-voodoo to open up a huge breach in the fort wall then he would leg it. Cost hundreds' of gold to fix but as soon as they did he just came back and did it again asking for a chest of coin to stop, they posted extra watches but never caught the little rat and eventually paid out."

A creepy undead-obsessed death cleric girl based on pic related who they found looting tombs and graveards for more minions. Pretty weak overall but usually had a wall of skeletons between her and the party whenever possible. They thought her mostly harmless since she was 17 at best, so after beating her and capturing her they sent her to a jail, only finding out that she pretty much overnight killed the guards and everyone else in the prison and strutted out of town with a squad of zombies at her back.

They eventually all grouped up, returning as an Anti-party threat. a Troll barbarian, two fighters, a goblin wizard, a flying rogue and a necromancer cleric, all of which were as prepared and organised as the players made for a genuinely powerful threat. They backed off a bit once the adventure turned closer to it's main plot.

>>50390793
>korrasami bullshit
stopped reading there.

>>50395847
Main plot involved an Ice-Queen lich-sorceress looking to open up a portal to allow an army of frozen angels to invade the kingdom and take over the realm, the local army was amassed to seige her castle and pushed her forces back. Unfortunately they knew once she opened the portal everyone would get overrun so the party were sent as the ones to contest her, the army told to let them through the castle gates. When they arrive the guards strike them funny looks explaining "Wait.. What do you mean you guys are the heroes, we were told to let the rag tag bunch of powerful looking wierdo's in.. If you're them then who did we let through?". The door is opened, leading to a path of destruction cut through the castles defenders all the way to the queens chamber. As they get closer to the sounds of battle and enter the battlestrewn throne room they notice a few things. Blood pooled around the large oaken door behind them, a feathered creature staked to the top of it by large frozen spikes, a group of skeletons standing defensively around a berobed figure, all unmoving, covered in powered frost. A pillar of ice, the corpse of a small wide-eared figure trapped inside, two humans slumped against a wall, sticking close to each other in the final moments, one dead, one dying. Upon being questioned about the circumstance he laughs coughing up blood. "What did you expect mate, this is our home too, now go finish this or we died for nothing..".

The final room shows the queen in a very JRP'ish "This isn't my final form but it's close" fighting a hastily regeneating, but sorely beaten troll warrior. Claiming enough is enough, she finishs the troll off with a buffet of necrotic ice and turns to the party with a "Ugh, more rabble." attitude and leading for the final battle.

I hope the players enjoyed the rival party as much as I did. They didn't seem to mind/care that they escaped most combats so didn't feel that they lost agency which was what I was worried about.

>>50395927
At no point is a romantic relationship suggested in that

>>50396035
"they totally have to meet first guys. This changes everything"

yeah right.

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>>50388508
I didn't think it was that bad because Bolin fought Ghazan a bunch of times. They could have set it up better like you said, maybe tie in Bolin's more flowy probending style compared to traditional earthbending.

Arguably less bullshit than Katara learning bloodbending and definitely less bullshit than Azula learning lightning redirection (which is the most bullshit thing in the series).

>>50389374
P'li is supposed to be 6'8 and Zaheer is like 6'3

>>50394970
Half of ATLA wasn't voiced by Mako, anon.

>>50396527
>Half of ATLA wasn't voiced by Mako, anon.
And it was shit. They even knew it and cut down on his dialogue in the last season

>>50387500
I really should try this sometime

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>There are people still in denial as to HOW awful Korra as a character was.
>There are people who actually think LoK hat ANY redeeming qualities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmKaQqinWKY

>>50388594
Why are her toenails so long?

>>50396650
Dangerous women naturally grow long, sharp nails, like a cat

>>50396640

>80 minutes of buttmad

whew laddy

I didn't like LoK as much as I liked AtlA, but jesus someone needs to calm their tits.

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As much as I like LOTK and wish it was executed better, I wish more folks would respond to OP's actual question.

>>50387500
Kinda. The rival party is pretty similar to the party, class-wise. Human Knight to a Half-Dwarf Warrior, Elven Priestess to a Mushroomfolk Bard, Human(?) Sorcerer to Human Mage, and Orc Monk to a Kobold Brawler. Both parties have similar goals, but what divides the two parties from working together are their methods and general beliefs.

>>50397640
>you are entitled to your opinion-- but only if it's a mild one should I disagree!

Just popped into this thread to say Korra was shit from top to bottom and it's embarrassing that there are still people who will gloss over any bad part in that shitshow.

>>50398274

>And it's embarassing that there are still people who will gloss over the GOOD parts of that shitshow

see how that works

its almost like a sub-par series with a shitty main character has other, better characters to make the show bearable for the most part

don't pretend every part of LoK was all bad

even the most pessimistic portrayal of the series doesn't paint it as all bad.

Unless you're as autistic as E;R, like you clearly are.

>tfw the characters showing the most teamwork are the """"bad guys"""""

Red Lotus backstories when? What do the tattoos mean? Is there a secret tribe of lavabenders/combusters?

>>50388864
>Season 1
-make the equalists movement have actual long term consequences (don't just remove any influence that they have once the season ended
-make Amon legit, no "blood bending" bullshit
-no love triangles, fuck love geometry of any kind in any series
-don't make Korra get away with everything

>Season 2
-remove season 1, half the problems of season 2 was that they rehashed the plot of season 1
-remove buddy cop side story (you can keep detective plot but don't make Beifong an idiot in the process)
-Expand the Avatar Wan part throughout the season it was the best part of the season
-Instead of Avatar Kaijuu battle make it just an avatar vs dark avatar battle with two people with all the bending duking it out

>Season 3
-nothing best season ever, first time I actually thought it was a season of Avatar

>Season 4
-have better pacing
-give the Earth Empire a more communist feel than a fascist one (to parallel Red China)

>>50400571
I just read the other comment, and yeah it's probably better to just make Amon the BBEG in the entire series

Red Lotus was what Amon should've been

>completely holds true to logical motivations
>has long term consequences
>cripples Korra who doesn't just recover due to deus ex

>>50389412
I had a retarded fanfic speculation in season 2

>Dark avatar actually is created and becomes a part of the reincarnation cycle
>then on out there is battle between Avatar of Order and Avatar of Chaos

even have a red white lotus and red lotus respectively (though the AoC is true anarchist and not just lust for power).

>>50399047
they pretty much told the lore of combusters being orphans trained as assassins

>>50394934
>not the Avatar Wan story

Iroh's cameo is good too

>>50400571
>-give the Earth Empire a more communist feel than a fascist one (to parallel Red China)
They already did this earlier in the series. One of the running themes of LoK was that they demonstrated systems that are contrary to the democratic/capitalist United Republic of Nations and why they're worse. In particular, they primarily focused on systems that were gaining traction in the early 20th century (which works well with LoK's dieselpunk aesthetic).

>Season 1
Amon and the Equalists are communists. They promote making everyone equal by reducing individuality (hence why they all where full-body outfits that obscure gender and appearance) as well as taking away people's unique talents and traits (represented by taking away people's bending). Under their system, everyone is perfectly equal, yet no one is unique or different (except for the leader, of course).

>Season 2
I think Unaloc and the Northerners are supposed to represent a theocracy, considering their obsession with tradition and spirituality. Also in regards to their heavy-handed approach in forcing their beliefs on their southern brethren (with the motivations of "it's for their own good" and "we must save them before they fall to damnation").

>Season 3
Anarchism, obviously.

>Season 4
Facism (as you pointed out). While I agree that it would have been cool to see a Maoist Earth Kingdom, if you're going to do facism in LoK, Earth Kingdom makes the most sense. The Air Nomads are ardent pacifists, and the water tribes don't really have the necessary industry or levels of organization. While the Fire Nation could work, everyone would just say they're re-hashing Last Airbender if they tried that.

>>50389542
>>50389566
>>50400571

IIRC the creators had originally planned LoK to be a one-season thing. When Nickelodeon wanted more, the writers initially flubbed up because they didn't have much time to throw together more Korra and still make it a cohesive story (hence the problems with season 2). By comparison, when they made TLA, they already had the entire story plotted out for 3 seasons, so it was much more cohesive.

>-no love triangles, fuck love geometry of any kind in any series
This. I thoroughly enjoyed most of LoK, "most" meaning the "not-season-2-parts" I hated the way they handled romance in the series. Korra spends literally all of S1 pining after Mako only to turn into the girlfriend from hell after she has him in S2.

>>50392527
Nah, LoK went from good, to bad, to really bad, to worse, to good and then meh.

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>>50387558
>>50388423

Oh, I thought they were cut off by someone who was trying to weaken her.

>>50388457
Eh, the last two seasons she was less retarded.

>>50388766
>>50388779
>>50388883
Eh, by S3 and 4 they were mostly okay, and could have had a little more of a group dynamic. Actually that;s an interesting point, S4 was all about them being forced to split up, but they rarely had group efforts in S3.

>>50389888
>Bending doesn't have a measurable quantity that can be hoarded.
It demonstrably has a measurable quantity since it's power can be influenced by outside forces; the moon, the sun, Sozin's Comet, past lives.

Giving it a boost through soul vampirism isn't a great leap.

>>50390571
>then why did you all bother to watch it all the way through?
The writing may be shit, but it LOOKS COOL.

And that's all I really need from a children's cartoon.

>>50401477
Dunno, dropped it after first two seasons, while I was eagerly waiting each new episode of LA

Can you imagine the show if they had been given 4 seasons from the start instead of getting renewed only towards the end.

It's only of the reasons Asami seems evil during season one. Until they got approved for S2 she was supposed to turn out evil.

>>50401913
>Can you imagine the show if it was given freee hand from the start to finish rather than being corporate-controlled production with heavy executive meddling
Here, FTFY

>>50387500
I'm going to give out plot hooks like candy on halloween for a bit with my Friday group till they choose what they want the game to be about. After that I'm going to make a line that connects them to some ancient knight order and introduce a group of enemies that mirrors them. They're all new so I want to make sure they're engaged before they start dealing with ancient orders and villainous dopplegangers

>>50390571
The show wasn't bad per se. The main problem was how good the Last Airbender was and Korra simply looked bad by comparison. By itself, the show wasn't even half that bad as everyone claims and if few episodes are ignored, it's breddy gud.

In short, the show had to deal with absurdly big legacy and even bigger expectations. So when people expect from you to deliver something flawless and absolutely golden, but you give them fumble at least once per 10 episodes and end up with badly implemented damage control after first season, you end up being a hateboner.

And surprise, surprise, female lead wasn't a problem. Korra as a character was. Her having tits was not even part of the issue. Her being like she was was an issue.

In short - if you don't have any particular strong feelings toward LA, then LoK is breddy gud. Especially if you can endure a very, very flaved protag that takes forever to get better, but never actually stops being aggressive hot-head.

>>50388864

Korea doesn't learn airbending till season two and can't enter Avatar form till season three

The first season ends with the reveal that Amon is a pawn of Koh the Face Stealer. Koh's doing the long con and, after talking to spirits who can see the future, decides that Korra will not only be the weakest of the Avatars but will be the easiest to trick into breaking the seal between this world and the spirit world.

Amon has his own plans though. He wants his mask back and in season two he secretly breaks out the Red Lotus to do two things, take out the avatar before Koh has a chance to trick her and kill Koh himself. This is on top of him basically starting a war against all nations at once, he ends the first season having taken control of Republic City and ripping a hole in space just enough for a small army of evil spirits to flood in.

The series drops the love stuff in season two, instead it's about how team Korra deals with a world war 2 like scenario but instead of the horror of machine guns and bombing it's the horror of ACTUAL FUCKING GHOSTS decimating the countryside. Most of the backdrop is either spy shit in the massive fortified cities that are left or team bonding through bloodshed in the ruined towns of the war. Korra repeatedly gets told by the spirit world that she will fail and has to prove she won't not just to everyone else but to herself.

Season three has the Red Lotus and Amon, Koh and his spirit army, and Team Korea all duking it out in the ruins of Republic City. Eventually the Red Lotus betrays Amon to help Korea seal the portal to the spirit realm and bring peace back to a fractured world. The catch is that they seal back the powers of bending with it. Korea and Asami (a couple I only like do to every other couple sucking worse) have a tearful parting as Korra leaves to stay in the spirit realm.

>>50402167
>kill the setting


This is not better

>>50402167
Garbage

>>50402167
>Korea doesn't learn airbending till season two and can't enter Avatar form till season three
>Korea
>KOREA
>KOREA
>O
>R
>E
>A

>>50387500
>dat pic

Fuck, it gave me feels.

Random Avatar related question, I and four friends have decided we're gonna play a game set in the universe. To get around the fact everything kinda orbits around the Avatar, and to make everyone feel special, we've decided to set it during the Korra time period but have all the people play as the Avatar. Essentially what happened was a Red Lotus plan to disrupt the Avatar cycle had succeeded, but only partially and split the Avatar essence into it's constituent elements and had four random kids become the four pieces of the Avatar. So now they're all the Avatar, and can only do Avatar shit together. That's besides the point though. What's a good system to run the Avatar setting in?

>>50402753
Sounds like a shit idea. Why not set it just before season 1 of Korra, while she's still training, and run normal benders?

>>50402768
My gaming group is a bunch of tumblr-tier snowflakes and this is what they decided on. It's not as bad as it could be, and has been in other games. This is what I get for being in an arts program I guess.

>>50402784
>My gaming group is a bunch of tumblr-tier snowflakes and this is what they decided on

Just say flat out "no". Or find another group.

>>50402784
If you are a GM, you can just say no.
If you are a player, be the change you want to see in the world and run a non-avatar. Hell, you can always run a badass non-bender. They'd get more skills because they wouldn't need to learn bending. Be a secret Equalist sympathizer.

>>50396527
>definitely less bullshit than Azula learning lightning redirection
I'd have said that if Iroh realised from watching waterbenders how to redirect lightning then Azula (natural genius and all that) could have figured out how to redirect lightning from watching people redirect lightning

>>50396640
>E;R
I couldn't stand Korra and I think he's a butthurt prick

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>>50402753
I've had success running a game in Legend of the Elements, it's an Avatar rpg with the serial number filed off ('bending' gets replaced with 'shaping' for instance)

>>50387515
Are you me?

>>50392300
You know what the problem in this world is? Too many sorcerers...er, benders.

>>50388864
Rewrite Korra as a character.

No, really, almost all the problems LoK had came from the fact they've wirtten her as anti-Aang in every single aspect and realised waaay too late the main character is unlikable bully with serious anger issues, so the damage control went out of hand in no time.

If your protag is an annoying bitch, it's hard to endure the show which by default gives her "Chosen One" plot coupon

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>>50387500

Love that cliche. It's always feelsy to remember the enemy party are probably friends and comrades too.

>>50388864
complete rework of the whole thing with the exception of the first season. shoot writers afterward

>>50388864
Tell them that they will in fact have 4 seasons so they don't have to rush season 1 then halfass season 2.

>>50404794
that was nicks fault because they were convinced the show would fail. in fact its almost like they wanted it to fail. they barely advertised it, moved it to a different time slot during a season multiple times with like a day warning, and didnt stream episodes online when released on tv like they did other stuff and made people wait a few days

>>50404626
And what exactly that brings to the table?

Aside being GM fan-fiction, that is.

>>50396640
Jesus Christ, I can understand the hate Korra gets, but fucking 80+ minutes of ranting?! You can wrap that up in 5, without making an ass of yourself in the process

>>50404994
not him but in my case the players learned to strategies around the personalities of the recurring enemies

>>50404994
I think you may have autism if you can't figure out why character development is a good thing that people might like.
Honestly, please, someone reassure me that this is trolling because there's no way someone's such a bitter autismal cunt as this right? To call character development GM fan-fiction as if it doesn't make him seem like the biggest cunt in the thread?

>>50405011
He's pretty much just replaying the episodes and pausing to rant about a scene every 5 minutes. I imagine he derives a sort of masochistic pleasure from it.

>>50401439

It's so unfortunate, too. I thought the series had a lot of potential just from the first few episodes, but as soon as pro-bending happened, it all went downhill.

I maintain to this day that having Tahno become a permanent part of the party and korra's eventual boyfriend would've been good.

Or her ending up with Bolin and not being such a bitch. Even the creators knew Mako and Korra was such a shit pairing that in s2 it got axed.

Like, I get they wanted to have like, the drama that comes with love triangles and teen shit but why not channel that into having a kinda romantic but asshole guy, and slowly develop him into a more caring dude while Korra learns to tolerate his existence [and even fall in love later]?

The ideal end is axing romance entirely because it's always been poorly done in Avatar save for like, Sokka and Suki, but I guess that's too much to ask.

>>50404994

strategies for dealing with them
plus it just makes them that more c ompelling

what's so hard about to understand

>>50396640
>Whorra
No matter how good it is, it can never be taken seriously by having such an immature and stupid name. This dumbass really shot himself in the foot.

>>50405082
Please explain me how the fuck your players managed NOT to kill them in the first encounter. I'm curious.

>>50405107
The fuck having recurring enemy team has to even do with character development? It's literally animu-tier bullshit.

>>50405202
Anon, it was already pointed in this thread.

RPG combat is all about escalation. You don't slap people around, you don't intimidate them or don't pardone then,
You use your strongest accessable and reliable attack to kill them.

Thus it's pretty much impossible to have constantly the same people as enemies, because party will kill them in the first encounter, unless the GM will pull some shit in tune "no, you didn't", which will only get people angry.

>>50387500
I have rivals for my player's, none of which are evil, they all work together when they have to do so, outside of that though they'll party together and whatnot.

Half of the party picked "Sworn enemy" as starting disadvantage for easy min-maxing.
I've asked them for backstories for next week and managed to work it out into single person being their enemy.

They will never meet that person. But they DO keep meeting mercs send after them.

So far they didn't figure out why so many people want them dead. They literally forget about their disadvantage.

>>50405528

Sounds more like an issue with your group, then.

>>50405807
Not him, and my players also kill things on their way. Especially hostile things. Especially hostile lootable things.

It's like you never actually played tabletop RPG. Or combat-heavy game.

>>50387500
Reoccurring rival team, yes. Enemy team no.

Though I have had individual villains to individual heroes before.

>>50402806
>Hell, you can always run a badass non-bender. They'd get more skills because they wouldn't need to learn bending
Like Azumi

>>50405866

I have, actually. The groups I've played with do range between the kill-things-between-your-way and the stop-and-think variety, though.

I'm more saying it's entirely possible if you have the group for it. If you don't, it's pointless, but the potential certainly exists.

>>50402753
Exalted. Dragon-blooded exclusive campaign. Either ban or reskin wood element. Basically one for one by that point.

>>50405937
Potential for what exactly? I don't even see the potential, not to mean actual appeal. All it brings to me is cheesy Team Rocket showing up once per episode with yet another shitty scheme of theirs.

>>50388646
Which mostly all is the same advantages Aang had. Aang was a master airbender in a world where nobody knew how to deal with them, and there was no Tenzin to keep up with him.

>>50406162

Recurring villains that steadily get stronger, characters that harass and hamper the party continually at various points along the story, rivals the party wants to best, there's any number of ideas a GM could come up with to accommodate, if the group wants it.

I dunno why it's so difficult for you to imagine these things.

>>50387500
The story of my current game is essentially the players cleaning up the mess of a previous party, fighting against/with the aid of different members from that previous party.

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Bonus points for a common naming scheme.

>>50387500
Nope, nope and nope.

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Korra was a garbage series except for season three

>>50406398
>if the group wants it

It's not. I simply don't know a single player group who would like to play with such element. And I'm GMing for years, for different groups.

>>50406618

I literally just said 'if the group wants it.' If some of your groups don't want it, that's fine. It sure as fuck doesn't mean every group doesn't want it.

Stop acting like your experience with different groups is the same well across the board. It can be a thing some groups want, some don't. This is really not hard to conceive of.

>>50405528
You really need to play better games with better people.

Problem is, you'd probably ruin the game for them.

So, better solution: Cease to exist.

>>50402753
Why the overly complex plot? Just do like I did and set the game shortly after the previous avatar dies and is reborn.

You can get a lot done in the 13 or so years it takes for them to become competent.

I'm still in the planning stages, so the Bad Guys aren't parallels. But they are a former adventuring party.

After they saved the world, some went into the Rebellion business. Eventually they realized that adventuring had made them some of the strongest people in the world. They had seen horrors and sorrow at every level, and saw how the strong oppressed the weak.

So they decided as a group to take over the world and even challenge the Gods so that they could save the world once again.

Three of the worlds most powerful magic users, two hyper intelligent wizards and a sorcerer who bound a Slime Lord, an older warrior that was at one point the strongest fighter and now is an exceptional general, a Bard that has Hitler levels of crowd swaying, and an assassin that is slowly killing off every person of nobility on the planet because no one can find them.

They may or may not be based on my old adventuring party from years ago

>>50406162
Reoccurring doesn't mean every session.

Look at cape fiction anon. Literally any big name villain is reoccurring. Luthor. Doomsday. Darkseid. And those are just Superman's. It doesn't have to be team rocket, sometimes it can be a "oh shit HE'S back. We barely survived last time and now he's riding a firebreathing Tyrannosaurus!" moment.

>>50405528
>Thus it's pretty much impossible to have constantly the same people as enemies, because party will kill them in the first encounter, unless the GM will pull some shit in tune "no, you didn't", which will only get people angry.
Do all of your enemies always fight to the death or something? If you see it going south you retreat.
Sure they might catch one of you, but then you pull off a daring rescue mission to get them back (if captured) or replace them.

>>50398855
No matter how you couch it, a couple of decent minor elements cannot save the horrible and boring deluge of bad elements the rest of it was.

No pretending involved, no bait involved, you are exactly the type of person I described before and you are just as cringeworthy as I suggested that type of person was.

>>50405528
Nice murderhobo nomad tribe ya got there.

>>50408351
>Cape fiction
Opinion discarded, kill yourself this moment

>>50408432
>>50408473
It's just logic. When average attack of a PC can kill other character TWICE, it's hardly a situation when any enemy can withstand.
But hey, that must be murderhobos, not just fucking lethal gameplay.

>>50405528
>Please explain me how the fuck your players managed NOT to kill them in the first encounter. I'm curious
they were stronger than them, the players managed to escape, formulate a new strategy based on what they'd learned from their first encounter, and engage another fight with them on their terms with that information

>>50402272
Of course they'd have a hard time learning air bending. They're afraid of fans!

>>50408893

Though you always seem to fail to mention that players can and do state they want to attack with non-lethal intent. Then again, you clearly hate cape fiction and anime, so it's no wonder you can't conceive of something like that; it's fun for others, but not for you.

That's okay. I'd suggest you kill yourself though, if it really bother's you other people like it and see potential in it, though when you don't. The world just isn't for you.

>>50402167
Hey, Koh Theory Guy.

>>50387500
I'm doing that now. Been a GM for nearly a decade but resisted it until now. Hopefully I don't fuck it up too hard

>>50395662
>>50395847
>>50396015
imo, I think that was very well done

>>50411836
Not even him, but if you run lethal game (which the other anon aparently does), then it's impossible to have enemies other than dead, as once, MAYBE two attacks is enough to kill everyone and everything.
Dunno, you never run any crunch with high lethality?

>>50388864
Longer seasons. The lack of breathing room was the root of a great deal of the shows problems. More time would've let them actually address a lot of the big issues, like Asami's lack of meaningful characterization. Even Korra's incompetence could've been alleviated, since more episodes would've let them give Korra some minor victories without compromising the overall direction of the narrative.

That said, season 2 would still need to be completely rewritten, since it was pretty much garbage all the way down to the foundations. Varrick and Wan were basically the only good thing to come out of the entire season.

>>50403101
You're ignoring the fact that Azula is fucking crazy and that your nature is supposed to play a part in how easily you learn bending. Zuko couldn't lightning bend because he was full of turmoil, but his post-Dancing Dragons style lent itself to redirection.

Ignoring the fact that Azla should have blown herself up considering her mental breakdown, her rage-based style is pretty much the opposite of waterbending.

>>50415847
>You're ignoring the fact that Azula is fucking crazy

No she isn't.

>Ignoring the fact that Azla should have blown herself up considering her mental breakdown

No she wouldn't because she is competent. Her perfection is what makes her survive.

>>50412861

Again, it sounds continuously like a problem with your group rather than a system issue. There's nothing wrong with killing enemies, but aside from W40K, there's definitely nothing that says 'once they hit 0 hp it's over and done.'

Players can more oft than not declare non-lethal intent. If you're playing it like I suspect and saying they're dying as soon as they hit 0 hp, then it's both a group and GM issue which, again, is not a problem -- however you seem to be completely unable to grasp that other players can go through these systems non-lethally, if they wish.

Like I keep harping on, it's a group thing; if you don't do it it's fine, okay, but don't fucking keep ignoring the fact that other people, in this very thread, even, refute your notions of lethality and sometimes have these rival groups.

I'm more surprised this is difficult to grasp on any level, because it's not like it's hard to accept that other people are experiencing things which you are not, and having fun doing so.

>>50405283
>No matter how good it is, it can never be taken seriously by having such an immature and stupid name

And yet people take Korra seriously as a character despite being STRONG FEMALE INSERT WHO CANT DO NO WRONG as if there was actually something to discuss or doubt about.

>>50405147
>>50405011
>In depth explanation of why she is so bad
>BUT THERE IS 80 MINUTES OF THAT FOR 4 SEASONS!

>>50416869

I mean, she is a character. She's an assholish, angry, brash and violent character who makes a shitload of mistakes because of her own stupidity and asshole personality.

She does a ton of wrong shit in the series, but this is what's usually called a character mistake. I wouldn't say it's written well, far frm it, and honestly protagonist's do need to have some sympathetic traits to make them tolerable which Korra does not.

But it certainly does leave a bad impression to start off with by going 'Legend of Whorra.' The video may explain in depth what is wrong with the series, but the first impressions one gets from the title is that it was made by a bratty, immature edgy kid who thought of the first clever name he could think of and applied it directly to his forehead.

Not saying the video itself is bad for just the title, but that the first impressions are not good for a video aiming to analyse the show and its problems.

>>50416552
Get the fuck out of here Scrapper.

>>50416905
Watched it.

It's a review that when it is good, its good(in particular the stuff about how trivialized things in the Avatar universe seem in Legend or how the Equalist movement doesn't really come together). It's just that the guy is /pol/-tier and every now and then it needs to have him make some /pol/ style joke.

Honestly, it could be cut down from 20 to 30 minutes, but the good stuff is there.

>>50416883
Thing is - it can be wrapped up in few minutes, rather than venting anger in 4-part video.

>>50416794
>aside from W40K, there's definitely nothing that says 'once they hit 0 hp it's over and done.'
Yep, you never played a lethal game in your fucking life.

Thanks for confirming it.

>>50416552
Azula is bat-shit insane by the end of the series. Deal with it.

>>50416794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Ye_dAge-4

And it perfectly describes my experience with over 15 different groups playing different game with each of them in last few years.
But apparently, it's just impossible for you to grasp people can go for kill without even thinking about it as anything else than disabling the opponent.

>>50389784
>Katara was pretty beast herself and she was only like 16
She was also a genius on par with Toph with her respective bending.

If you want to see what an average waterbender can do, just look at the siege of the north. They are kind of meh, just like the average earthbender is kind of meh and the average firebender is kind of meh. Giant waterstorm and triple octopus form is the product of Katara simply being just damn good, just like half the awesome things Toph do are the result of her being just that damn awesome.

>>50390571
Avatar is a pretty mature show, all things considered. Things like genocide, banishment, despair, war, more daddies issue than in your neighbourhood NRA, treasons, etc.

They promised an even more mature sequel. We got nosy, self-absorbed brats in a vacation setting. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>50390571
Expectations after Last Airbender - 11/10
Actual show - 6/10, with most of 2nd season being 4/10, thus BELOW AVERAGE

They were victim of their own success. LA was really that good and the longer it was running, the better it was with each season. LoK has the exact reverse - the longer it was running, the worse it was, with certain episodes being just fucking horrible.

Plus there is the issue of Korra simply being unlikable character, so it's hard to be on her side when you know she's constantly wrong and constantly makes bad decisions and is basically written from the bottom as "anti-Aang", which simply doesn't work out.

>>50418028

No, you just can't grasp the simple goddamn concept of 'some groups don't kill, some do.' I've fucking said it multiple times but you can't get it through your thick skull that some people do, in fact, not kill encounters on the first go around and some do, according to the situation, the group, the GM, and all other variables I've named, repeatedly.

I've literally told you multiple times it's dependent on the group. Literally have said, multiple fucking times, this simple concept, which you apparently cannot [[or more likely refuse to,]] grasp.

>>50417983

Or, and bear with me here, I've played with groups that don't always take, in a lethal system, lethal courses of action all of the time. But I guess not being with 100% kill hungry groups is an impossible concept for some people.

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>>50418594
>B-but I'm right!
>Y-you all are wrong

>>50418594
>/tg/ is a single person
Get the fuck out of here

>>50418594
>Lethal system
>Non-lethal combat
Anon, how to say it without offending you...
... your intellect is a bit lacking.

>>50388447
>I'm an exception and therefore special! Notice me senpai!
Fuck off.

>>50416905
>>50416552
Azula is an incredibly strange character. She is a sociopath, who is supposed to be taken seriously, except when she is played for laugh, which is 40% of the time.

She had all the trait of the scarily competent terminatorish villain - except she is incredibly incompetent each time we see her in action.

She is supposed to be psychopathic - except they introduce a quirky squad of lifelong friends with whom she banters all the time.

She is supposed to be this remorseless life destroyer, the ultimate foil for her brother - but then she helps him and banter with him.

She is a joke of a character. It's like they tried to mix two different incompatible characters together: the psychopath and the quirky villain, and they just completely failed.

>>50419948
Here is a clue - she was written by two different people.

Are you still surpise she comes as if being some strange mix of two completely different people

>>50387515
This, desu. My party is a bunch of amoral assholes. I'm writing up a bunch of goody-two-shoes characters led by a starry-eyed Chosen One that will set aside their current adventure every once in a while to hunt them the fuck down when they start making a lot of noise. Or maybe occasionally join forces with the PCs when a bigger threat rears its head.

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>>50420270
Not a problem. How difficult can it be to write down basics beforehand and actually agree on the thing?

"No-joke character. Sociopath. Extremely competent. Should only appear in scene where she wins, or is fought at great cost." Here. Communication issues resolved.

The worst thing is that either of those concepts work, alone. She could have been a quirky villain sister or the Hannibalish terror. But she simply can't be both.

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>>50388831
Anon, I haven't laughed that hard at 2:45 AM in a while.
Amon is one of my favourite Sith Lords

>>50417544

I'm not Scrapper but these accusations are out of hand.

>>50417983

You are a misguided fool if you think Azula was crazy

>>50419948
>>50420554

See I can tell you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. You want her to be this otherworldly Hannibal type of villain but she is just a little girl who is frustrated for being alone. She was never meant to be the weapon her father portrays her to be.

>>50421385
The animation on that hand is really jarring

>>50419948
Because she is fucking 14 years old that her father tries to transform into a weapon. While she mostly just wanted to be loved by her mover who treated her like a monster as much as she can remember.

Now her mother really did have reasons for that. Azula is a borderline sociopath with sadistic tendencies who started to have "friends" because that's what normal children do. Mostly she just can't decide what she wants and considering her head problems it's hard to say if she can resolve it at all.

At the end of Avatar she has a mental breakdown due to all the shit that she is pushed through. Her friends leave her, lets be honest for the most part it is her own fault but still. Her father makes her command a whole fucking nation which she is not ready to rule and actually doesn't seem that keen on that course of action even for all her boasting. And in the end there is also her brother who always hogged all the mother's love to himself.

If she had someone more mature than her friends or her father to guide her it could have gone in a different direction. Someone like Palpatine would have been nice.

>>50422986
>Azula is a borderline sociopath with sadistic tendencies who started to have "friends" because that's what normal children do.

There is nothing wrong with having a mean streak. It was obvious she didn't love herself and kept trying to buy into that image her father perceived her as but she was unhappy and therefore she is not at fault for what she has done.

>>50423788
Problem was - she was too good with firebending. If she was weaker her doubts and problems would have got her much sooner and she would have needed to find out what she really wanted to achieve. Like Zuko.

But her raw talent allowed her to push forward even when most other firebenders would have lost all abilities.

>>50387500
Nope, never seen it and never thought of it.

>>50424042

Again nothing wrong with talent it's how you handle it. Azula has a long path ahead of her for redemption but she will make it.

>>50387500
why not it's a cool cliché.

the only time I've ever seen it done very poorly was that one filler arc of yugioh

>>50423788
>but she was unhappy and therefore she is not at fault for what she has done.
Whoa wait what
Bit of a leap there don't you think?

>>50400745
That was fucking awful

>>50387500
Yes and?
Is it bad, ive never had a problem with it, the players think its a cool idea.

>>50426382

Not really she hasn't done anything remotely that bad.

>>50389026
>Plus Amon was almost Azula tier
>The villain that comes with legit views and solutions to problems ( even though he didnt beleive in it himself)
>The same as the villain everyone just likes because shes hot, a fucking asswipe otherwise.

>>50426524

You shut your fucking mouth, she wasn't a villain but she was a btter character than Amon.

>>50426605
She was a shit character qith nice underage tits.
SHIT!

>>50426637

Don't look at her sexually you pedophile and she had the best personality you shit taste autist

>>50426753
>Scrapper calling other people pedophiles
Pot meet kettle

>>50427073

I'm not Scrapper but I know he isn't a pedo.

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>>50388546

>0:01-0:05
>Zaheer just leaps around, minorly augmented by his air bending but clearly too inexperienced to use it well
>Tenzin effortlessly twirls through the air like a living breeze, his form like a rising tornado

>0:09-0:12
>Zaheer can't even touch Tenzin point blank when Tenzin lacks the space to dodge, brushing Zaheer's attacks off like nothing

There's just something about the old mentor character getting his moment to shine that I always love

The show should've been about Tenzin instead