/5eg/ D&D Fifth Edition General: Shadow Pupper Edition

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>party is looking for some missing rare books
>go to a gang's hideout
>clear out what few are there, including some zombies the bandits had
>unlock a chest in the back room
>open it
>bones rise out of it and form some skeletons

The group struggling with a corridor of pressure plate traps/puzzle. Thy never did solve the trick to it but they came up with creative ways of getting past the corridor. Quite simple but it was a delight to see them get worked up about it.

Also as it dawns on them what the room full of statues actually might signify.. Simple little things that's so rewarding just watching them squirm. Most of them have not played much RPGs befor so it's fun just watching them take it all in and get lost in experience and having their characters react to things.

Oh and that player who has a character actually collecting cursed items.. Which he some times whispers and talks to.. That gnome has some serious emotional problems (barbarian, or rather a shoe-maker with an impulse control problem).

>>50309252
>party goes to neverlight grove for second time
>torch some mushrooms
>torch some more mushrooms
>confirm that everything is exactly as fucked as we thought
>NPCs finally agree, yes everything IS fucked
>Give NPCs a big fat "I told you so."

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Alright, /5eg/. In five words or less, what's a good hexcrawl encounter?

I need some advice. My character is a level 3 wizard with 13 con and 16 int. At level 4, should I pick Resilient (con) now and bump up int at levels 8 and 12, or should I focus getting my int up ASAP and saving Resilient (con) for level 12?

>>50309492
Animated tower. It's an herbivore.
Gnolls camped inside colossal corpse
Village of insomniacs.
Pond full of wizard lizards.

>>50309539
INT up. You're going to be more of an asset to the party that way, and your power progression wil up your survivability anyway.

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Some homebrew for you, 5eg.

So, I wish to DM a campaign soon. I like the idea of using models, and have a pretty vast Warhammer Beastmen army to draw enemies from. Are there any good stats for D&D beastmen enemies, or if not, a good statblock to just attach to the model?

>>50309539
Rule of thumb: always bump your attacking/spellcasting stat until you hit 20. Taking feats can wait.

So I started playing with a new group and the DM doesn't really have all the rules down. Mostly he's been referencing stuff from when he ran 3.5 edition campaigns, like 5 foot step and the like. What's the best and most accurate cheatsheet that I can get for him so I'm not always reminding him of the rules and how they apply?

>>50309252
>party decides to take out a vampire, heads into her decrepit tower
>after she grapples the fighter and bites him once, the polar bear/druid grapples and drags her into sunlight, though she eventually breaks free
>use their Horn of Blasting to damage both her and the tower wall behind her
>gnome wizard polymorphs into a huge giant ape and pummels down the wall, letting the light shine upon the whole room
>after she drops to 0 and Misty Escape kicks in, the mist has to go back to her coffin, where she reverts back but is paralyzed
>everyone joins forces to push her coffin into the sunlight, as her eyes desperately dart around and her mouth opens, a mute scream never to be heard

Shit was awesome, yo.

>>50309252
Party decides to camp out above the crypt they were raiding. Some of the bandits held up inside come out to stab them in their sleep, fail.

Just before sunrise, screams come from inside the tomb. A feral vampire runs out, scares the hell out of them, then steps into the sunlight and explodes.

They failed to identify the vampire in or out of character, hilarity ensues.

>>50309582
Holy mother of options, Batman.
I get the appeal giving the player a lot of freedom to choose, but my god those archetypes are overloaded.

>>50309653
The actual rules of the game are like, 30 pages, 40 for the specific spellcasting rules. If he's not willing to spend the 30 minutes max needed to read those, he's not a good DM, period.

>>50309582
Bloated

>>50309539
You should pick whatever suits the characters development at the time. Ask your GM what for some input. 5e is not about min-maxing anything. It's not a boardgame, it's a RPG.

>>50309670
>>50309776
Ok, I'm seeing two calls for too much shit. Any chance I could get some specifics out of you guys? Does the druid have too much shit? Redundant stuff in the lists or just trying to cover bases that aren't there?

>>50309252
Paladin with mounted combatant and lance charges an orog on top of his find steed warhorse and proceeds to stab the CISorc repeatedly with his extra attack.

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>>50309252
>Give me the highlights of your last session, /5eg/.

>Playing male minotaur barbarian.
>Get arrested by town guard for previous encounter running from the law when I fail a disguise check to continue to pass off as a dire bull.
>In court.
>Paladin order is trying to press for charges for property damage and assault on guard I had to ram through to get away.
>Try my damnedest to keep up appearance of dire bull, ala sir Bearington, to get a plea for being too incompetent to stand trial.
>Judge casts zone of truth, I fail save and have to tell the truth.
>Judge asks if I did hurt the guard and say yes.
>Jury seems angered at me.
>Judge asks why and I tell him I was running for my life as I had previously been raped by 99 cows.
>Judge and jury are shocked because this actually happened in a previous session and I’m not lying.
>Court brings in cows for questioning as judge speaks with animals.
>Cows try to use estrus cycle as excuse.
>Rancher horrified that all his cows are now pregnant with minotaurs instead of dire bulls.
>Fairy dragon lawyer convinces jury my actions were justified because of what happened to me made act in a panic as I feared for my life.
>Judge finds me innocent and charges hapless rancher with fine for 99 counts of sexual assault and pay for property damage I caused in previous escape.
>Get off scot-free and don’t have to pay child support for 99 children.

Which would be the alignment of a militarist kingdom that wants to take over it's neighbour without any provocation? They just want expand

>>50310108
>alignment
Why bother with that?

>>50310116
Curiosity

>>50310104
u wot m8?

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>>50310104

>>50310108
>militarist
Lawful
>the rest
Neutral/Evil

>>50310108
Hitler

>>50309694
>Want to help DM improve
>"Reee shit DM reee"

C'mon man, I might be a walking encyclopedia of the 5e rules but it's nice to have a quick reference of the more obscure things.

>>50310193
The thing is: There is only one forge of Magic items in the entire region and it belongs to their neighbour, they want it.

>>50310136
>>50310151
>Previous session our cleric rents my character to rancher for breeding without my character’s knowledge.
>Just tells me to go play in the field with the nice rancher.
>Continue disguise as dire bull so paladin order doesn’t murder me because I’m a fucking minotaur.
>Once inside pasture cows begin to surround my character.
>My character wants none of this bull shit and tries to escape.
>Swarm of 99 cows knock my character down and proceed to to commit snus nu against my will.
>Manage to escape climb and climb a fence.
>Just want to go to hotel to get some rest.
>Fail disguise check on one guard.
>Proceed to be chased across half the city as paladin order is trying to slay me.
>Get away.
>Get arrested last session.

>>50309620
Nobody knows of any beastmen stat blocks? I've tried googling, and going to the DnDwiki, but aint found shit.

>>50310279
Gnolls, or use any of the NPC stat blocks.

>>50309561
What are lizards doing in a pond?

>>50310306
Wizarding.

>>50310276
Oh, ok. It makes sense now.

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>>50310221

>try to make map
>looks like a dog dick

I'll never dm

>be gnome wizard
>get into a city and find out some girls are disappearing from nearby boarding school
>talk to people for info
>bartender lady say this already happened in the past
>talk to school director
>she says girls just wanna have fun and run away with bad boys from time to time
>use detect magic on school, every single entrance is loaded with powerful warding sigils
>party paladin senses that great evil lurks on the nearby woods and some of it still manages to get through the wards
>party barbarian gets into fist fight in a bar with local barbarian for money
>wins fair and square, becomes local celebrity
>I send familiar to get an aerial picture of woods
>find some clearings, send paladin and barbarian to check it out
>they get charmed by some water-fey thing and paladin nearly drowns
>meanwhile I'm searching for old lore in the school's library, with the aid of a halfling waifu

I'm pretty excited desu

>>50310400
Theatre of the mind

Keep your shitty map on a grip paper pad behind your screen so none of the players have to see it, use it for referencing distances/cover.

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>>50309252
Highlights?

>Guk the Orc Monk Wrestler with a gentle and kind heart
>Buck the Wood Elf Rogue, wrestling manager
>Guk renowned across land for his undefeated 64-0 wrestling record
>enter town of Orwic
>Buck tells the rest of the crew that Guk should perform
>could get free lodging
>all agree
>incite a Half Orc, down on his luck family man at tavern to take challenge
>first to give up or knock out
>unarmed combat only
>Buck is a faggot
>wants to take bets and rig the fight
>douses dagger in sleeping poison
>tries to sneakily cut him
>fucks up and misses chance
>flavor up unarmed combat as wrestling moves
>ding ding ding
>tough battle with lots of punches and body slams
>both fighters are worn out
>Half Orc goes for uppercut but misses
>Guk grabs him and puts him up for a piledriver
>drops flat on his head
>its a crit
>audible neck cracking
>Guk has committed murder
>party takes the body away
>bury him in the woods before guards see
>party ponders morals

>>50310400
I used the boat map from the DMG, one player laughed at it and called it dick shaped ;_;

>>50310505
Name the ship "The Captain's Pride" and own it

>>50309252
Well, my 7 ft tall human warlock caused a forest fire and piledrived a water elemental over a waterfall. Everybody else did pretty much jack shit because they're newbies to DnD, which is why I try and do entertaining shit.

>>50310104
The party tries to get help with an orc army and instead gets a sidequest.
The party moves to clear a farm of zombies and immediately splits into four groups and alerts five groups of zombies.
Nobody takes more than a tiny scratch, but dear god we'd have been fucked if these things had been an actual threat.
My int14cha10 rogue gives an angry lecture on teamwork and nominates himself battle leader. No objections are raised.
We fight a muckthing in a decaying watermill. The monk risks his life to rescue a corpse and pockets the coinpouch. We OOCly let it slide because the GM screwed him on money.
The session ends as we begin laying plans to clear out the farmhouse.

>>50310505
Speaking of which, does anyone have high res images of those maps?

>>50309252
A big arc of the campaign ended last night and the players thwarted two different enemy faction plots in the same encounter. They got into an encounter with the king of Karrnath and his necromancer advisor who are both vampires in Eberron canon and party figured it out in-character and revealed the man using the Wand of Orcus to control the king and his advisor before causing major damage to either of them. They then got to fight 2 high-powered minions of the Lord of Blades who were also plotting to get the Wand of Orcus and stopped them due to having the king's assistance, since his custom legendary and lair actions were built to make him warlord-like. Now they get to figure out what to do about the Wand of Orcus.

>>50310296
I suppose Gnolls could work. Thanks.

>>50309252
>dragon asks party to clear out a temple long abandoned and overrun by dinosaurs
>party asks to peruse her hoard for useful objects, luckily I had a table made up with some stuff, mundane and magical, for them to find with some investigation checks
>including a ring of three wishes with a DC 30 as a joke because I didn't think anybody was capable of rolling that high
>someone rolls a 28 and I start sweating, realize he put his rogue expertise in investigation

>reveal to the dragonborn warlock he's a clone created by the dragon as an exciting thing for his rare session with us (he runs a lgs nowadays and has less free time)
>think of a brilliant way for his character to be out of the picture when he can't play, he is asked to escort an npc to a faraway country
>couple days after session player then says his schedule is cleared up and he can play more often
>luckily, he's a clone now and there's and lot more of him where he came from

>temple has a big pipe organ, players fuck around with it and it makes an extremely loud, extremely deep noise, which is answered by two similar noises from outside
>barbarian/fighter and druid decide to go take care of the mated pair of t-rexes by themselves while the rest of the party fucks around with a fountain/puzzle/secret entrance to a tomb containing a nest full of velociraptors
>surprisingly, the barb and druid manage to kill one Rex themselves, the other, badly wounded, drags its dead mate back to their nest to mourn... while the three guys in the raptor nest get their asses kicked by pack tactics

>clear the temple, one guy has made it his goal to tame a quetzalcoatlus as a mount, and this time he has the druid who can speak to animals for help- they convince the quetzalcoatlus to let him on, but as it takes off he spectacularly fails an animal handling roll and falls thirty feet

>received a book of maps written in code and decide to go to harryhausen island for the next part of their adventure

Hey, anon who was looking for the sun soul reworked into throwing weapons archetype for monk the other day here. I didn't check back before the thread 404'd, cause I'm a retard, could someone help a brotha out?

>>50310427
sounds exciting in a different way for your paladin and barbarian

>>50309252
>last session
We completely destroyed a fire giant's sanity by ganging up on him in the dark, ruining his meal, stealing all his shit, climbing on him, slowing him, confusing him, blinding him, knocking him up and down, mind-controlling him, and yelling psychically in his brain. Poor guy went catatonic before he was even reduced to half health and we tied him to the ground.

>>50311269
> sun soul reworked into throwing weapons archetype
that's pretty smart

>>50310108

Kingdoms don't have alignments. But its inhabitant would have lawful neutral/evil tendencies, going toward evil if they're cruel in their takeover

>>50311308
One of my players weebed it up and describes it as stretchy limbs. His searing sun burst is him enlarging his foot and stomping onto the area he's hitting.

Don't really care as long as he's not trying to change the mechanics on the stuff.

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>>50311308
>>50311269

>>50310276

That's not how cows work. Not even Dire Cows.

>>50309620

Minotaur?

>>50310108
This is a situation where you shouldn't let alignment dictate stuff because all the people involved probably don't have the same motivation for the common goal.

14 14 11 10 10 5

Are my stats playing a barbarian half-orc.

Considering 1's in a stat are near useless in 5e should I just go

16 str, 14 dex, 12 con, 10 int, 5 cha, 10 wis? Post +2 str and +1 con of course.

I get higher Ac than just putting 14 in con and 11 in dex of course i lose out on that 1hp

>>50311375
Damn, the last two perks need changes still, but i can work with this. Thanks anon!

>>50310490

...that's not how crits work.

Also, you can literaly decide if you make your attack lethal or not.

Hey /tg/ I'm pretty stumped on how to design good dungeons (aside from coming up what it's there for).
I've tried the "5 room model" before and it works fairly well for something quick and snappy to throw into a session, but it's terrible for an actual dungeon to explore.

So now I'm sitting here with the layout, monsters, and loot that I want to be in there, but I have absolutely no Idea what else to put in there.

Traps? It doesn't make sense that there are any.
Puzzles? I had mostly bad experiences with them, so I don't use them anymore.
What I want is there to be choice for the party with some consequences for the further dungeon experience, but I don't know where to start.

Is there any rule of thumb for these sorts of things?

It's a partially flooded old temple in ruins thats deep underwater, and it's used by a sea hag to corrupt villagers and meerfolk with a mcguffin in it. If that helps.

>>50311412

>5 cha

... yeah, no

>>50311432
>changing anything
It's literally just Sun Soul with all instances of fire replaced by daggers. Perfect balance maintained.

>>50309492
>roving band of cannibalistic carnies
>orc attempting repairs on spaceship
>ancient shrine, birthplace of religion
>town built from gelatinous cubes
>undead plague asylum, insane overseer
>cave leads party to beginning
>haunted gold mine
>plateau cursed by extinct natives
>labyrinth, already disarmed by minotaurs
>sentient rainstorm hates your party
>theatrical vigilante lost in desert
>rival party races towards goal
>recluse elf tamed hellhound pack
>giant ants invaded next town
>devil appears, duel of skill
>housecat starts following warlock
>dining room, middle of nowhere
>intelligent dinosaur lost in time
>rains jellyfish on coastal town
>gigantic bird spotted, public skeptical
>prison break for criminal's boyfriend
>insane wizard in shitty tower
>trespassing on king's hunting grounds
>lizard with delusions of grandeur
>gatormen slaves escaping to safety
>gnome inventing drag-racing
>pigs have taken over farm
>giant's ghost haunts friend tree
>primordial ooze refuses to evolve
>ruined building actively fights back
>paleontologists competing for more skeletons
>sorcerer is an asshole neighbor

>>50311456
If it's a partially flooded temple, why aren't there some traps in the dry areas where Merfolk would have little reason to go. If there's a room that's mainly useful for catching your breath after diving along a hallway, that's a prime spot to put a trap.

Likewise, a room rigged to flood would be a similar posibility, as that would handily deal with any surface dwellers while not affecting the merfolk if they accidentally trigger it.

Put traps in areas that are low-traffic, or high importance.

>>50311456

Why doesn't it makes sense that there is traps?

A sea hag would probably love to see people die/suffer because of her tricks or weird magic she cooked up.

>>50311474
That sounds great actually. That character's intimidating battle cry will sound like the zit-faced teenager in every menial job from the Simpsons.

>>50311475
That's assuming that Sun Soul is decent & balanced in the first place.

>>50311518
>>50311502

Well the thing with traps is that it's so deep underwater, that even getting to it is a challenge in and of itself.
But I guess traps for the meerfolk would make sense.

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Hey guys, I got the full Volo Giant cover art. Might be cool as a wallpaper.

>>50311412
Str 14 (+2)
Dex 11
Con 14 (+1)
Int 5
Wis 10
Cha 10
At level 4 you increase both Dex and Con for more AC and HP. But damn, you have shitty stats.

i asked in an ealier thread but im looking for some more angles:
Will Critical Roll work as an audio only thing? i was gonna DL and convert it for work, especially since im working black friday and could use something to listen too.

>>50311615
It's already available on WotC's site as a wallpaper. http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/media-resources/wallpapers

>>50311675
Y-yeah, well... shut up

honestly didn't know

>>50311632
Apparently the stats were done 3d6 and made into one big ass pool. Apparently the guy who had to drop got the best stats because he took the 5 for team.


So yeah average of 3d6 is 10...

>>50311663
Yes. Sometimes you wont understand why they're laughing, or you'll miss a few jokes, but most of Critical Role's humour isn't visual.

>>50309492
>rogue's parents want quality time
>messenger delivers urgent news incorrectly
>swords, buy one get one free*
>seer dies before finishing prophecy
>worgs decide party looks tasty
>tax collector army shows up
>ancient boat on dry land
>the rocks are spreading gossip
>inverted pyramid with inverted mummies
>gut wrangler needs fresh guts
>party stalked by bumbling bandits
>abandoned pickaxe won't shut up
>owlbears make way for bearowl
>swamp becomes deadly maze
>procession of candles in darkness
>stars disappear, one by one
>mad cult turns into trout
>unorthodox local cocktail, party mocked
>party crashes fancy masquerade ball
>bridge over nothing, troll depressed
>king leprechaun offers three wishes
>horse knows secrets of universe
>man cursed to dig forever
>witch looking for good time
>pumpkin patch tended by scarecrows
>unaccredited university of salt miners
>windmills looking to joust knights
>fight club in ancient temple
>cat people declare party "gods"
>pilgrim devoted to wacky church
>accosted by misinformed paladins
>free-standing door, bucket of water
>town celebrating thinly-veiled Christmas holiday
>splinter cell of anarchist monks
>miles-long queue of people

Started posting it at the start of last thread, but here is an idea I had when Anon asked how to get light in the Underdark.


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>Kobold Candlemaster

>"Light be bad... but Surfacers needs it, and so it's power for us. And power be good."

> Small humanoid (kobold), lawful evil
>Armor Class 12
>Hit Points 13 (3d6 + 3) Speed 30 ft.

STR 7 (-2) DEX 15 (+2) CON 12 (+1) INT 8 (-1) WIS 7 (-2) CHA 8 (-1)

>Senses darkvision 60 ft., passive Perception 10
>Languages Common, Draconic

>Skills Perception +0

>Challenge 1/4 (50 XP)

>Pack Tactics.
The kobold has advantage on an attack roll against a creature if at least one of the kobold's allies is within 5 feet of the creature and the ally isn't incapacitated.

>Sunlight Sensitivity.
While in sunlight, the kobold has disadvantage on attack rolls, as well as on Wisdom (Perception) checks that rely on sight.

ACTIONS
>Dagger. Melee or Ranged Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft. or range 20/60 ft., one target. Hit: 4 (ld4 + 2) piercing damage.

>Sling. Ranged Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, range 30/120 ft., one target. Hit: 4 (ld4 + 2) bludgeoning damage.

>>50311956
>younotakecandle.meme

>>50311956
[2/4]

>Torch: Melee Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft. Hit: 4 (ld4 + 2) bludgeoning damage + 1 fire damage


>Candle mastery:
The kobold uses one of the following options (roll a d8 or choose one); the kobold can use each one no more than once per day:

>1. Oil.
The kobold hurls a flask of Oil. Ranged Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, range 20/60 ft. On a hit, the target is covered in oil. If the target takes any fire damage before the oil dries (after 1 minute), the target takes an additional 5 fire damage from the burning oil. The kobold can also pour a flask of oi!lon the ground to cover a 5-foot-square area, provided that the surface is leveI. If lit. the oil burns for 2 rounds and deals 5 tire damage to any creature that enters the area ar ends its turn in the area, A creature can take this damage only once per turn

> 2. Alchemist's Fire.
The kobold throws a flask of alchemist's fire. Ranged Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, range 5/20 ft., one target. Hit: 2 (1 d4) fire damage at the start of each of the target's turns. A creature can end this damage by using its action to make a DC 10 Dexterity check to extinguish the flames.

>3. Basket of Glow Worms.
The kobold throws a small basket into a 5-foot-square space within 20 feet of it. A swarm of insects (glow worms) with 11 hit points emerges from the basket and rolls initiative. At the end of each of the swarm's turns, there's a 50 percent chance that the swarm disperses. As long as the swarm doesn't disperse, they emit a light equivalent to the one of a torch.

>>50311994

>4. Spiked Lantern
The kobold hurls a burning lantern, specifically designed to hurt in those case. Ranged Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, range 5/20 ft., one target. Hit: 2 (1d4) piercing damage + 3 (1d4) fire damage.

>5. Frigid Blue Crystal

Among the strange territories of the Underdark, it is not always wise to rely on heat sources to see. Kobold Candelmasters use those cold blue crystals, found in dark caves where Brown Moss abounds, as alternative and sometime as emergency weapons. Although they lose their power quickly when in contact with heat source. Ranged Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, range 5/20 ft., one target. Hit: 7 (2d6) cold damage.

When not used as a weapon, or for one turn after being used as one, the frigid blue crystal glows like a candle.


>6. Failed Alchemist's Fire

Testament of the kobold's bumbling training in alchemy, this disgusting brew is the mix of their failed attempts at creating Alchemist's Fire. While it would seem logical to simply throw it away, the travelers in the Underdark are often too low on ressources to allow themselves this luxury. And, after all, they do throw it away, after a fashion.

Ranged Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, range 5/20 ft., one target. If hit,he target must make a DC 9 Constitution saving throw. On a failed save, the target retches and can't take actions for 1 minute. The target can repeat the saving throw at the end of each of its turns, ending the effect on itself on a success. A creature that doesn't need to breathe or is immune to poison automatically succeeds on the saving throw.

>7. Midnight Oil

The Candlemaster adds a special kind of oil to one of their lanterns. A cloud of thick smoke pours out in a 60-foot radius from the lantern. The cloud's area is heavily obscured. Last one minute. Creatures with unprotected eyes within the radius must make a Constitution save DC 15 or be blinded for 1 minute. If they exit the radius, they can do a saving throw at the end of each of their turn,

>>50311475
Yeah, but knife burst makes 0 sense.

>>50312057
>Knife Burst makes no sense
>Not a radius of sunlight coming from knives

>>50311692
>DMs who enforce 3d6 stat generation
Ugh. Seriously, even the standard array is 15 14 13 12 10 8, and it already seems low for me. If I ran for a group using point buy I'd give them at least 30 points to use and spread.

>>50312159
The game he is running is based off an old 2e module i really don't mind.

In my other game I'm playing a half-minotaur with 33 strength

>>50311376
>That's not how cows work. Not even Dire Cows.

Tell that to my DM.

>>50312018
>>50311994
>>50311956
any possibility you could turn this into a stat block?

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>>50312190
>a half-minotaur with 33 strength
what the fuck

>>50309492
>giant worm eating area livestock
>dying race stealing health textbooks
>goblins amassing hoards of pillows
>bored golem ruining people's lives
>tower preventing disaster fallen over
>massive bunker holding nuclear waste
>discover apocryphal text in cave
>countdown clock displaying year remaining
>ancient meditating prophet, left forgotten
>sacrificial altar calls for gems
>woman in pond distributing swords
>telescope only shows pursuing demon
>meteor lands, something steps out
>massive earthquake unearths evil idol
>disputing couple asks for advice
>old lady makes living killing
>run-down shack houses ghouls
>otyughs under public outhouse
>mechanical monstrosities terrorize loan agents
>local teens encounter hideous blob
>rogue theater troupe's secret show
>abandoned "smart house" fucking sucks
>misanthropic artist has shitty gallery
>depressed beholder maybe not perfect
>pirate captain smuggling counterfeit artifacts
>ancient tomb turned local attraction

>>50312232
I remember a 3.5 half minotaur template that had some busted strength modifier. He's most likely not talking about 5e unless some DM gave him a huge supple of manuals of strength.

Anyone in the greater Pheonix area starting/planning on starting a session and need players? My group of friends think tabletop gaming is shit and my group i played with in highschool all left for the millitary or college and I havnt played in a year. Would be nice to get back into it. Just want to be a lawful neutral pally smiting heathens.

>>50312232
Oh no wait 34 strength.


Its 3.5

Level 8. +2 strength item.


I get +10 in strength alone from being Orc and Half-Minotaur

I get -4 to all mental stats though.


I had an 18 in strength.


Oh right and I'm going to be allowed to have my bard research enlarge monstrous humanoid...

Did i mention I'm a hulking hurler?

GEHAHAHAHAHAHA
I wrestled a huge sized rhino into submission the GM didn't think I was going to do that. I have a bard cohort that can grant any allies within 1d10 miles 8d6 sonic damage. I'm level 8 bard is 6.

I have the leadership feat and am the warchief of a tribe of former slaves and orcs living in shrublands. When i level up i'm going to be able to throw my wrecking ball and any person i pin 150 feet.

>>50311690
Don't worry anon, yours is better because all the wallpapers at their site have stupid huge logos and names.

>>50312386
:')

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I'm about to run Chapter 4 of SKT for my group and I have a question about the wording for one of the traps.

>The effect also occurs when a non-giant touches a rune.

So fundamentally this will happen whenever they just poke one of the 6 runes. Triggering massive spell traps right?

>>50312018

[4/5]

*turn, the effect ending on a success


>8. Flint & Sunsteel

The Candlemaster uses a special flint & steel. Creates an intense flash of light on a 60 ft radius Each creature in that light must make a Constitution saving throw. On a failed save, a creature takes 7 (2d6) radiant damage and is blinded for 1 minute. On a successful save, it takes half as much damage and isn't blinded. Undead, oozes and creature with Sunlight Sensitivity have disadvantage on this saving throw. A creature blinded by this action makes another Constitution saving throw at the end of each of its turns. On a successful save, it is no longer blinded.


The lands underneath the surface is a world where light is scarce. And what is scarce and needed is valuable. Maybe it is in basic greed that the existence of the strange kobold sect of the Candlemasters is born. Perhaps is it an expression of a faded memory of their supposed draconic nature. Or perhaps it is a sign of manipulation by a more obscure power. But the Candlemasters care little for their origins.

Sometime, a kobold find themself thinking of something more than work, traps and the community. And sometime those thinkers will find the path of the Candlemaster. Taught their trades by higher-ranking members called Flintmasters, the Candlemasters are the apprentices and disciples of a strangely philosophical of a tradition, which will transmit to them many ways to find and create light. According to the Flintmasters, light is power, especially in the darkness, and every single Candlemaster desire more power.

>>50312542
if they poke it without the correct weapon or with their bare hands, yes.

>>50312598
Thought so. Time for that TPK.

>>50309492
>kings army sieging hippy commune
>inventor needs blood for project
>rancher complains about zombie cows
>punks need lift to concert
>horror writer living in isolation
>kobolds emerge from misguided tunnel
>supreme evil settles for shantytown
>roving band of prosecution lawyers
>elf wizard falls from sky
>city renovations release ancient beast
>plants protest construction of factory
>dying cavalryman warns of gnolls
>park ranger is major asshole
>bulette wildlife preserve
>hobgoblin performing community service
>underground skeleton wrestling ring
>vampire stuck under rock's shadow
>sphinx tries stand-up routine
>castle full of failed experiments
>rattlesnakes congregate, revive rattlesnake god
>river diverts out of spite
>museum curator burying precious works
>giant offended by huge statue
>cave upside down, stalagmites confused
>party pursued by graboids
>abandoned theme park, still expensive
>ugly duckling sad, is chimera
>frog monster is drying out
>abandoned cabin moves around

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>>50312057
>surrounding yourself in knives that reflect light doesn't make sense
nigga there's like 20 different anime characters that do this

>>50312638
To be fair, the archway is forty feet high and forty wide. The runes that don't require any effort to touch are Haug and Ise, and ice storm only does an average of 23 damage on a failed save. They'll most likely touch a rune, get either confused or shot with ice, and then realize that they probably shouldn't fuck around with these things.

>>50309252
>Hunt down a beholder for reasons
>The beholder we find turns out to be a death tyrant
>Epic fight ensues
>Half-Orc fighter almost gets petrified as he hangs off a cliff
>My goliath fighter steps forward to get the attention of the death tyrant, try to taunt his to fight me in melee with an epic speech followed by an insult
>Fail my check to taunt him
>Immediately blasts me with a fear laser so I start screaming in horror
>Before I can even run he puts me to sleep so I'm having a night terrors in the middle of the boss room
>Wizard steps up and fireballs him to death
>We find a literal ton of gold

It was a fun session.

>>50311494
>>50311919
>>50312252
>>50312669
These are amazing.
Is some tool being used as inspiration here, or are you just creating these out of thin air?

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>starting fey-heavy campaign with new characters
>we have all the fundamentals which allows me to be whatever
>playing atelier sophie as it had just launched (june)
>decide to jokingly make a nature cleric based off oskar
>his gimmick is that he's autistic and only enjoys talking to plants
>gimmick is that he has autism and only likes talking with plants
>gimmick gets old quick
>feel like a weaker Oath of the Ancients paladin
>ask dm if I can reroll since we're early
>dm says it's a high kill count campaign and to wait until I inevitably die
>fast-forward to now
>cleric is the lone survivor of the original groups
>people have constantly kept dying but the cleric remains despite my best attempts to kill him in-character
>dm won't let me reroll him
>thinking of being a dick and just making my character commit suicide or act recklessly until he succumbs

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>>50312707
>>50312598
Talking of the runes. One of my players is a Dwarf who speaks giant. He's made a point of going on about the dwarfish/giant script being the same.

I can predict that he's going to tell me he can read all the runes and understand them perfectly.

My understanding is that its much like the roman alphabet that makes up english/spanish/french etc. You can recognize the letters but not what it means.

>>50312751
All directly from my ass, friend. Some of course are pop culture references, some are reduced descriptions of events I've used in games or other creative projects, the rest I made up as I went.

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>>50309252
>5e, party looting a dead sorcerer's hideout
>sorc was known for riches and paranoia
>find very little, fight and get hurt a lot
>still pretty intact, at last door
>glyphs in front of door
>literally just turn around and go back home
>after session monk takes me aside
>"wtf you said he had treasure"
>mfw my party is really that dumb

>>50312852
I don't get it. Is it a reference? Or you didn't want to die to the glyphs?

>>50312921
Im the dm. They didnt want to die. Didnt even test them out with a rock or pole. Just straight up left, after fighting through two deadly encounters and a bunch of traps. Im fuckin mystified

>>50312809
I've got some bad news for you, Anon.
Those are all Romance languages. They are highly related, influence each other, and share extremely common roots (with English in particular being very much French vocabulary with German grammatical influence).

Go to your bathroom and grab a bottle of shampoo or your mom's fancy make-up cream. Read the French instructions and tell me if you can figure it out without looking at the English.

>>50312944
Ah, somehow I interpreted it as you being in the party and that made me confused. My brain is fuck.

I can't imagine what would compel them to just leave when they're at the fucking loot. Did they think the monsters would be carrying it and thought you were tricking them when they weren't? Like, what the fuck.

>>50312204

Maybe, but not right now.

>>50312552

[5/6]

Once a Candlemaster is considered trained enough by the rather low standards of the Flintmasters, they are given one task: "bring back the eyes of a true master of the dark", given a blindfold that will make the wearer unable to see with darkvision or in a low-light environment, but that will prevent the effects intense light has on kobolds or from being blinded by it, then made to leave the Flintmasters' abode, violently if necessary. If the kobold desire to further their studies, and most do, they will have to accomplish this task. Most simply lack the capacities to do so, but they attempt it nevertheless, with a determination that could be the subject of legend and tragicaly comedic (or comedicaly tragic) results that are definitively the subjects of drinking songs.

A Candlemaster is easily recognisable at a glance: in addition of their traditional blindfold, worn to protect themself from their craft, they tend to favor bright colors, often in the red, orange, yellow or gold tones, with a lot of gold or copper jewelry when they can afford it. But more noticeable is all the equipment of their craft: their namesake candles, made from the fat of diverse beings or stranger substances, held on either large metallic hats or pauldrons or on hand-carryied candelabras, many torches, lanterns and the like, often sporting an exotic design or being recycled from what the kobold could find, be it bones, armors or worse, and, in various pots, cages, pouches and chests, a collection of light-emitting plants, animals and minerals.

>>50312809
An easy way to throw the dwarf player a bone would be to have him roll History on the runes with advantage for knowing stuff about runes in general. The Giant language is ancient, and Dwarvish is based off of it (or vice versa, if you ask many dwarves).

Make it so on a successful check he's able to read the Haug rune, and recognizes it as the ancient Dwarven word for "home".

>>50312971
Since they share the same root alphabet I'll let him have the option of attempting to decipher it.

I studied 3 years of French and have been there several times but I still couldn't read a book in French.

>>50313015

[6/6]

Found in small, isolated temples, guilds in the subterranean cities of the Underdark that tolerate them, or simply traveling, the Candlemasters combine the kobold ingenuity for devices with their faith in something bigger than the individual, and in many case with their lack of wits and pettiness in every other areas, explaining why they barely if ever work together. Nevertheless, due to their prime directive being to find a "true master of the dark" and bring their eyes to their Flintmasters teacher, the Candlemasters will often find themselves associating with people from the surface who are traveling through the Underdark, generally working for them as torch-carriers in hope of the surface people killing a being from the Underdark the Candlemaster could claims the eyes of. The smarter ones also double as guides, as anyone who survive carrying lights announcing their presence in the Underdark either know safe(r) paths or is very good at dodging the danger of the unsafe ones.

>>50313019
Dwarves came from another planet, they had their own language.

>>50313022
Giant writing is like baby bullshit since even the Hill twats can read it. We write "dwindling resources were one of the primary causes of the hostilities between giants and dragons", and they write "GIANT WAR DRAGON FOOD"

>>50313019
Yeah.

Either way Harshnag can identify the frost rune, and is a handy frost giant to actually activate it.

Depends how helpful he's feeling.

>>50312971
>with English in particular being very much French vocabulary with German grammatical influence


Actually English is a Germanic language with heavy French influence due to the the British isle having been conquered by the French.

>>50313049
>Dwarves came from another planet

I want /pfg/ to leave

>>50311956
>>50311994
>>50311994
>>50311994
>>50312018
>>50312552
>>50313015
>>50313044


So, terrible formating asside, what do you guys think`?

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>>50313049
>Giant writing is like baby bullshit since even the Hill twats can read it.

Volo's

>Giants communicate through pictograms

>>50312809
If he speaks giant, why wouldn't he be able to read the giant runes? Or does he only speak dwarvish?

>>50312985
Yeah i have no clue. Lucky for me they have rivals who will get the magic items instead. So at least theyll get to see the stuff in action, one way or another.

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>>50313130
>Speaking a language magically confers the ability to read and write in that language

>>50313124
>trusting Volo

>>50313130
Even Harshnag can't read these things. It's not like giants use the runes describing what race they are to any great degree.

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>>50309252
>Give me the highlights of your last session, /5eg/.

>Party decides to take out ogre camp before it can fully entigrate with local orc
>Run in to barbarian buddy of a friend of theirs and he joins them (new player)
>Encounter a small group of ogres/orcs on path - fight them, defeat them.
>Wererat is part of ogre/orc group, wearing local militia uniform...
>Find ogre camp, make plan for what is little more than a frontal attack

And that is where we called it as we had run out of time. Going to start up tomorrow.

I was a little bummed. We were really rushed and one of the players was not engaged and was distracting. A lot of good RP stuff got skipped in order to progress the plot and combat. I'm pretty unhappy with that.

>>50313049
What. Nothing you said makes sense. All real life languages are very complex too, yet there are still uncultured people who speak in a simpler way.

>>50313153
Any and all features in 5e that give you languages allow you to speak, read and write, so I don't see your point.

>>50313173
Ah, I assumed those runes were written in the giant language. So it's like some ancient and half forgotten giant dialect?

>>50312809

If the Dwarf has the Language: Giant, then he can read Giant too.

>>50313244
It's probably more that giants usually don't use the runes at all, and communicate more by pictography. Harshnag is aware of the meaning of the Ise rune, but that's probably just because it's closely associated with his religion, culture, and people.

>>50313100

I know it's a basically a fire-based recolor of the Kobold Ingineer, but eh.

Anyone?

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>>50313244
>So it's like some ancient and half forgotten giant dialect?

Arguably its an ancient temple from before the dawn of man. It's at least archaic Giant.

You could view the different types of Giants as different cultures with the same roots and similarities but different runes/traditions. Accounting for why Harshnag the Frost Giant can't understand the other 5 runes.

SKT doesn't allow for or suggest any intermingling between the Giant races beyond the Kings court.

>>50312677
Knife burst, not knife shield. The throw then explode knives. Im thinking of using flame damage for that and making it a bomb.

>>50313078
It's been established for a loooooong ass time that Dwarves (like Orcs) are not native to Abeir-Toril. They just appeared one day. No one created them and they weren't around when the other "Creator Races" (birdguys, sarrukh, batrachti, humans, and fey) were doing shit.

Orcs, like Mulhorandi, explicitly come from elsewhere. Dwarves are mostly unexplained but the common assumption is they, too, are from another dimension/plane/planet/sphere.

>>50313310

What if you use Comprehend Language?

Don't have to touch the runes, only the thing it's written on and still see the text.

>>50313310
We know that Dethek is an ur-script of sorts. Dwarves all know it, Giant (among other languages) is written in it, Giants DON'T all know it, and Common is based on it. The Giant translation of runes also closely matches Common words (if I told you that the ISE, BLOD, SKYE, WYRM, and VIND runes stood for CLOUD, DRAGON, ICE, WIND, and BLOOD, but not in that order, do you suppose you could figure out which means which?)

Dwarves have also been described as fucking around with Rune Magic way more than Giants ever have prior to SKT.

>>50313375
Works for me.

>>50311474
>>50311531


Well let's see 5 int is about 2 int away from being able to understand speech.


How exactly do i play a 5 int 10 wis half-orc?

Also there is always the possibility my gm will allow me to use intimidate with str in a lot fo cases *flexes muscle*


Also i'm going into Undermountain... i don't know if there will be illithids or possessing ghosts but have a 5 in charisma means I could probably be easily possessed and then i rip apart my party as they try to stop me but are unable as i'm taking half damage from rage

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>>50313405
>The Giant translation of runes also closely matches Common words

That just smacks of laziness of wotc. Ise = Ice. Skye = Cloud.

>We know that Dethek is an ur-script of sorts.

So anyone who speaks common should be able to read these lines and symbols.

>>50313472
>How exactly do i play a 5 int 10 wis half-orc?

You're as dumb as an ogre, but you're more perceptive and more reasonable

>>50313483
What you should tell him is that Giant is written in the Dwarven script but Giant Runes are specifically not written in Dethek and do not share appearances with them. They are a unique part of the giant language, like emoji would be to English (or anything else), or complex kanji to a Japanese child who is only familiar with katakana script.

There's no reason a Dwarf should know Giant Runes. Dwarves have their own rune stuff.

>>50313483
>>50313405

Sounds like they used Nordic languages as a basis, rather than laziness, imo

>>50313472
Don't know about the ghosts but mind flayers hit your intelligence saving throw. The intelligence saving throws in the game so far are really nasty. Charisma is just a few damage effects and Banish iirc.

Low charisma sounds more fun to RP some hilariously ineffective battle cries.

>>50313523
I thought you used charisma for mind controlling effects? Do you use int instead?


I'mza gonna uh hurt you bad i will.

>>50313483
Going clockwise from the bottom left
Bird
Sconce
Stew
Agares, the Betrayed
French Horn Player
Coinpurse

duh

>>50313553
The effects specify. The dominate line of spells use Wisdom saving throws.

>>50313572
Welp i checked ghosts can possess a person with charisma dc12.


But yeah if my gm throws intellect devourers at me and I had 5 int i'd be megafucked.

Really i'm kinda boned with my stats anyway... but i just don't know if i could play a 5 int character correctly.

>>50313658
Protection from Good and Evil can help you against possession if there's a cleric/paladin/bard around. There's less ways to deal with the Intellect Devourer or the Mind Flayer's mind blast.

>>50313714
The party is:

Rogue, Druid, Warlock, Bard, and me barbar.

>>50313100
>>50313297
seems neat and could easily be altered to be used as other utility hirelings
that said a huge ass string of 4chan post is hardly a format i can use for quick reference and alter alteration.
needs a stat block and id gladly add this to my DMs trove

>>50309252
>murder mystery type game, every npc has their own retarded ideas of who the killer could be, has killed two of the PCs in ambushes
>killer is murdering people for the five macguffins to open some hellgate to let out unspeakable horrors, none of us wanted to know what
>realise that there's only one macguffin left and it's at the local miner's place
>go there, hope the owner's not horribly dead
>fuck yeah he's not dead it's fucking payback time this fight's on our teams fuccboi
>team of 4 level 5 PCs, everyone else is a non-combatant or too drunk to fight
>we choke the bbeg within the entrance hall of the building, smash his fucking face in
>he tries to flee but the druid wildshapes into a horse so he's super fast and tramples him to death

action economy triumphs over cr11 asshole efreeti, we're the fucking best

>>50313731
Warlock has protection from good and evil. Ask him to learn that just in case of ghosts.

>>50313769


THIS

THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE MINIONS

>>50313124
Oh, look, it's in Swedish.

>>50313522
It's basicly Swedish (Scandinavian) with a bit of an aged cant (?) to it (and no å ä ö). I knew every word of it. That said, that's the spoken language, not made up runes, and it matters not if the players knows it when teh characters don't.

>>50313854
>cant (?)

Pronunciation?

>>50313769
>tfw action economy doesn't help you against Fire Giants with three attacks at +11 dealing 6d6+7
>tfw giving them constant Disadvantage on everything also doesn't help

>>50313925
Sure. I guess there's some wordy-word I'm trying to find in my brainy-brain I can't but yeah we'll go with pronunciation more so than cant.

>>50310276
So did the cleric get arrested for fraud?

>>50309894
Aight, let's do this one class at a time.

Shaman:
You have an archetype with 4 subtypes. There's enough flavor and content here for almost a fully fleshed out class. Narrow down to one spell list.
The HP cost for the abilities is a bit over the top. Just give them the ability.
Also, 1d12 temp hp at 14th level? A fiendlock can nab 5 a round at 2nd level. That needs serious buffing.

Shattered Druid:
This needs condensing, but I understand that you're going for a swiss army knife deal. As of now, there's way too much shit.
Use of aspects needs to be almost free, since you're essentially gaining one ability of an animal (instead of all of its stats, HP, etc.)
Also, Assuming the Identity needs to be a very low-level ability. Again, you're losing everything but one aspect of an animal while getting nothing in return.

That's all I've got for now.

Could a War Cleric follow a God relating to hunting or something? Does anyone know of a God that would fit that description in Faerun's pantheon? Playing SKT.

I wanna be a War Cleric - Hunter Ranger multiclass. Grizzled, veteran Ranger who had retired to a clergy of some god of hunting or something, but when the Giants started raiding the Sword Coast he felt compelled to come out of retirement. His clergy happened to be nearby Nightstone, so he set of to there when he heard of the Giant attack on the town.

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>take Warlord statblock from VGM
>apply goblin NPC racials from DMG
>then apply nilbog possession traits

>>50314457
Thank you for the feedback!
The barb actually has three subtypes, one default spell list and three options for expansion, kind of like warlock patron's expanded lists. I understand the need for more clarity here. Maybe I can make one spell list and reduce the other options to a variant sidebar.
The damage was an attempt to justify a con-based caster. I wouldn't mind removing it, it's been through several iterations already (small amount of static damage, kill a small animal, small gp worth of material, etc) I think it's appropriate to fluff it as a sacrifice and let the player describe the exact process.
I'll be honest, I haven't personally played much at 14th level or higher, so I can't determine an appropriate amount from personal experience. Maybe that amount + con mod? Plus the barb player's con mod? Flat 20 temp hp?

Until today when people pointed it out, I didn't realize how much stuff I may have included in lists like the druid may have been unnecessary. I was thinking about it, and decided on something like-
one or two options for each slot
they all scale with level
wildshape puts them all on/takes them all off

I was looking at wild shape utility and abilities but didn't really take into account the main reason to use it- increased physical stats and HP, which wasn't covered much if at all by my list. I think a reduced list would look something like-
limbs- scaling damage or scaling strength bonus
body- scaling HP or scaling AC
head- I dunno, bites/AOEs?
and extaneous- shit that gives you swim speed, fly speed, etc

Meaning you build up your monster body once, it gets better as you level up, and wildshape is more like it's original function- letting you turn into something else a few times a day and get all the benefits.

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>>50309252
The party was captured by swarms of vegepygmies.
They proceeded to come round in time to witness the grand approach of the vegepygmies vegegod; a giant carnivorous potted plant, being carried by a dozen vps.

The party engaged in recriminations among themselves ("This is your fault! We are going to have WORDS if we get down from here!"), then bullshitting the giant plant, which while very articulate and convivial for a plant I was aiming for 'southern aristocrat' voice, but one of my players said they were imagining him as sounding like Dr. Facilier. #closeenough that while intelligent, wasn't terribly bright. What ensued was a conversation on

>whose fault this was (still going)
>which party member was tastiest
>where the vegegod came from
>why the vegegod shouldn't eat the tiefling (red skin means they're prone to spontaneous combustion, you have to feed them the right diet for a few months to make them safe to eat,)
>how humans were delicious but you had to watch out for the females because they tasted awful when they were in heat
>and yes, the female human was pollinating right now, so clearly he should eat the warlock's bastard no good boyfriend who is absolutely delicious first
>holy shit, it really did just swallowed my boyfriend let's light everything on fire

Then a fight I enjoyed and my players narrowly survived, with something like sixteen vegepygmies, thornies, and a massive potted plant using spells and slapping people with tendrils.

Next session in eleven hours.

What's your opinion on "scripted events"? Like, an NPC is designed to die no matter what at x point for plot purposes.

>>50314845
You need to create the situation so that it's highly likely to happen, but you're kind of screwing player agency if you completely deny them the chance to prevent the death unless it's happening completely off screen.

>>50314913
>completely deny them
How about giving them the illusion of being able to prevent the death?

>>50314845
Tools are important and useful, but should never be abused.

A little of this or that can be good in moderation.

>>50314957
You can make it as elaborate as you want, but at least leave a 1/1000 chance that they can do something about it if they can do something quickly enough and/or figure out what's happening.

Why does this NPC absolutely have to die?

>>50315055
>why does this NPC absolutely have to die?
Part of a plot central prophecy.

>>50315194
For future reference, write your prophecies for multiple interpretations so the fate of this one NPC isn't the lynchpin. Saving the NPC should be a way to delay the prophecy, not prevent it all together.

>>50314845
for NPC death it also depends on the NPC, having Important Townsperson die in a beholder fight because that beholder wanted them dead is fairly easy to have happen sicne its a non fighter getting whomped by a big monster
less so is like Powerful Wizard or Wizened Soldier
two ways to make it seem fair (and "seem" is important here because what important is that the players THINK that they could have done something weather or not they could actually have) is to have it happen off screen ala an assassination, have it happen in battle and cheat him to death.

Anyone else have to referee their DM like read the rules dude

>>50314338
No it was never brought up. The king of the region came by later to see what the uproar in the courtroom was about and our cleric told him he was responsible for defeating the dragon turtle that had been terrorizing trade ships and the king asked him to meet him at the palace for a quest. The king also allowed us to use the armory to arm ourselves for a future boss battle.

to put in perspective:A previous session the cast banishment on the dragon turtle after it attacked one of the ships and the DM rolled a 3. We spent the entire time it was banished rescuing the crew from the sinking ship onto ours and gathering every single cannon and rifle we could move into position and ready an attack action where the dragon turtle would reappear. The dm said since we managed to plan this out pretty well he gave all the attackers advantage and in one fell swoop we managed to deal enough damage to kill the dragon turtle the moment it reappeared.

Could an Arcana Cleric make a decent Gish?

Variant Human,Dex based. Take the feat that gives +1 dex and four weapons, get Rapier and Longbow.

Get GFB or BB from one of your two wis based wizard cantrips.

Seems pretty decent? How would you guys do it. Starting fighter would let me go STR based or stay Dex and I wouldn't have to waste the feat on weapon master, use it for magic initiate to grab shillelegh?

>>50315550
GFB/BB plus Spiritual Weapon would make them a pretty decent sword-and-board gish. It won't have amazing damage output but it's still a full caster in medium armor with a shield.

>>50315550
>decent Gish
whats wrong with going fighter 1 then wizard levels? you can even dip back into fighter for action surge or champion/battlemaster

>>50315702
I've redone it a bit

With variant human and point buy I can do 8/14/16/10/16/8

Magic Initiate for guidance, shillelegh, and maybe goodberry for feeding the entire party for free forever.

Take GFB or BB and ray of frost or firebolt for my arcane initiate cantrips.

18 AC and shilliegh quarterstaff with GFB or BB that eventually gets + wis sounds pretty damn awesome. Totally SAD too

>>50315550
If you're going variant human to get those weapons why not just play an elf and get a bunch more stuff?

so I have been playing a character that is Warlock 6 Rogue 3 which has essentially become a rogue gish that focuses on temp HP to bolster himself in battle
Level 10 isn't too far off and I've been considering which path to level next because they both could bring a couple of interesting things to the table

>Warlock 7
>Re-work one of my pact boons (probably One w/ the Shadows) for Devil's Sight and take Darkness as a spell
Picked this up in a previous thread and loved the idea of using it; although, as our party is now on the Elemental Plane of Fire, darkvision may be more common among enemies

>Rogue 4
>Ability Score Improvement
Boost DEX or CHA to 20, both to 19 (Yeah, I'm MAD), or take a feat

>>50315923
Yea i went full retard, look above for me redoing it

>>50315959
>darkvision may be more common among enemies
Darkvision, maybe, but only devils and warlocks with, you guessed it, Devil's Sight, can see through magical darkness. Other senses bypass it, too, like blindsight or tremorsense. If you go for rogue increase either Dex or Cha, not both, since doing that wouldn't do shit for you.

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Can anyone provide me with the Zhentarim logo in slightly better resolution? I want to use it on my adventurer's league character sheet but this one looks like crap. Before you ask, I can't pick anything else then Zhentarim because I play a Goblin.

Also, does anyone have any pdf's for some super small adventures? I'm looking for something that takes an hour or two, to complete.

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>>50316134
Here you go.

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>>50316277
Thanks! Have a goblin!

>>50311692
>Not going with base 6 across the board and roll 2d6 to add ot every stat.
It upps the average by two while making sure the lowest stat you can get is an 8.

>>50309252
Giant eagles and their owlbear guard dog are pursued by demons.

So naturally the party kills everything.

>>50313405
>ISE, BLOD, SKYE, WYRM, and VIND
>Ice, blood, cloud, dragon and wind
In Danish, those words would be "Is, blod, sky, orm & vind". Giant is literally Norse. Also, most giants in my games have Swedish accents.

>duke zalto is having a hard time assembling Vonindod because half the instructions are missing and the other half only has pictures

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I am a 5th level Divination Wizard and I just leveled up to 6.

I'm thinking of picking up Hypnotic Pattern, because it's a nice aoe disable with good range and will probably be useful all game, but I'm worried because I already picked up Hold Person and Suggestion from 2nd level.
They're all Wisdom saves, they're all disables. They all need concentration.

Is it too much? I don't really have a good aoe disable spell and Hypnotic Pattern doesn't even allow them a new save, unless they waste turns waking each other up.
I'll probably never un-prepare it again, whereas Hold Person's humanoid limitation has made it pretty bad so far, and Suggestion has been great but it only has 30ft range and we play a lot outdoors.

I'm also unsure what other 3rd level spell to pick, I had picked Counterspell and Fireball before but they're both very situational and hard to use properly

>>50309252
The party brought down the herald of a demon lord and his lackeys 6 days before they could summon their master.

The Paladin and Wizard died though - one drowned in a pool of blood and worms, the other was eaten alive by swarms of insects. Only the ranger, his mastiff, and the sorceror made it out alive to tell the tale. They've been given an inn in the capital, as dictated in the will of their NPC ally who also was killed during the demon-summoning dungeon crawl.

Fun sesh, I've never killed a PC before so had to change the ambience to "sad fantasy music" as their allies carried their bodies out to burn them.

>>50316781
Hypnotic pattern is incredibly broken and, along with fireball and its "clearly designed intentionally to deal more damage than other spells" niche, is basically everything you strictly speaking need to win combat encounters.

Hold Person and Suggestion are merely "good", and more importantly, are single target. So in essence you have a bit of a first-world problem on your hands; it's not really important. Individuals are going to succeed on their save against hypnotic pattern, and then you can use Suggestion on them or something. Pick up something that targets dex, too. It's going to be fine.

Speaking of, you must have an interesting GM if "dealing more damage than you're reasonably supposed to be able to do, in a huge AOE" is somehow "situational". You place it so that it hits as many enemies at possible, from as far away as you possibly can, and if you hit an ally or two then make sure it's a tough guy who hasn't taken a bunch of damage already, but STILL use the fireball.
Letting enemies be "not dead" so that they can hit your friends, is functionally the same as dealing damage to you friends.

>>50316884
So far I've used Fireball twice to great effect, but I've never hit any allies with it and I'm afraid what might happen if I do so.

I could've used it a couple more times but I would've hit like 3 enemies and 2 allies so I thought it's probably not worth it.
Also once more was a golden opportunity with like 8 goblins bunched up in a small space, but they were in the stables right next to our inn trying to fiddle with our horses, it would've been devastating in all respects.

>>50316935
hence why Evocation wiz is my fav

I have encountered a problem I don't know how to fix. My players was in combat and one of them decided they wanted to climb a pillar. They were at its base and since it was not that easy to climb and told them needed to make and athletics check to be able to climb it (DC 15). He failed, and asked if he could retry it. Nowhere in the rules as far as I can see tells me what happens when they fail a movemnet based ability check like climb, do they lose their speed? Can they retry with no consequence? should I let them climb it partially and say that the fall?

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Redpill me on Maneuvers, I'm making a Battlemaster and have no idea which Maneuvers are essential and which are trap options.

Also, is there any non-gimmicky point to dual-wielding when the only Martial weapons with the Light property suck balls?

>>50317064
Two years ago I played an archer battlemaster and I fucking wrecked things in combat.

If you already have another melee guy to soak up damage, pick up sharpshooter and you'll absolutely destroy everything in terms of damage.

Trip, disarm, push maneuvers all work with bows too (very few maneuvers don't). Goading also works, the enemy may not have an easy way to get to you without provoking a bunch of opportunity attacks and you just give him disadvantage on all of his attacks otherwise.

Near the end I had picked up Maneuvering attack and it was very useful, in many cases it gave a caster party member a whole extra turn to act as they would've otherwise just used disengage to save themselves on the following turn.

>>50309252
Why is it that it seems making a deal with a lesser power is always associated with the warlock class and blasting stuff?

Would it not be just as plausible that such a power might grant spellcasting like that of a Cleric, provide you with the knowledge to make your own Arcane magic like a Wizard or Bard, alter your very nature so you can cast like a sorcerer, or make you into their champion as some sort of variant Paladin?

>>50309252
If I wanted to build a diablo II-style army of skeletons necromancer, is there any way to do that in 5e?

I try to spread the enemies if they have the numbers. But have problems with attack of opportunities.

Once everyone is locked in their fight it gets very stationary.

Should I just move the enemies around and get AoPs?

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>>50317044
Yes, they should expend some movement climbing before falling down. If they keep that shit up drop them prone/falling damage to see if they're really committed to that silly parkour bullshit.

>>50317233
Be a necromancer wizard, spend all your spell slots and money on making and maintaining a skeleton army.

>>50317210

Because that's greater power turf nigga step off the healing spells with your weak-ass Cthulhu bullshit before Pelor has to bust a cap of Sunny D in your eldritch ass. Fucking jabroni.

>>50317125
>Trip, disarm, push maneuvers all work with bows too

Don't take any of this garbage on an archer. First because using these from range is just dumb. Trip is negated by the target just standing the fuck up on his turn. If you have multiple shots you're making them at DISADVANTAGE because that's what prone does. Disarm is similarly dumb, unless you're next to the target they just drop their weapon on the ground then pick it right the hell back up again on their turn (doesn't even take an action). Push is almost always a waste from range, since you can more easily just move away from them.

Trip is a solid choice for a melee combatant, and likewise Disarm can be devastating if you've got a hand free (though you should ask your DM about allowing the optional Disarm rule from the DMG). Where Push was dumb at range, it's a free disengage in melee.

While Goading is a good trick, unless your target is immune to Frightened I'd always rather Menacing. It's disadvantage to all attacks (so you aren't vulnerable) AND the target can't get closer to you, ideal for ranged fighter.

It's hard to go wrong with Precision Attack, since it often turns a miss into a hit it's generally the biggest damage boost. Feinting attack may feel like a better choice, but it's worse action economy if you have any worthwhile use for your bonus action.

Do I need to have seen a beast to be able to polymorph into it?

For example I have not, and probably never will, see a T-Rex or a Giant Ape, yet they are the only useful combat options for the spell

Should I just ask my DM or has it been answered?

>>50317258
>Get power from an archangel war-general.
>Expected to take weird cthulhu powers rather than righteous smiting powers or holy magic.

>Partner with a demon lord for ancient magical arcane tomes lost in bygone eras.
>He says "nope, you gotta take these cthulhu spells that are dependent on me instead."
>"No deal"
I'm still not seeing it.

So, I might be blind or something but

Lycanthropy. PCs. How is that supposed to work?

>>50317381
MM pg. 207, sidebar. And on 206, information about resisting or accepting the curse.

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>>50317407
Oh shit, In MM? Of all places...
Anyway, big thanks!

>>50317243
help.

Should the enemies keep getting Attack of Opportunities but keep the fight moving; or lock with their target?

I finally managed to make my way back to my sorcerer being human, but now I get a feat to play with.
However, nothing is really taking my fancy. Obviously War Caster is good, I've got no uneven stats.
What else should I consider? I feel like there's gotta be some I'm missing.

Warcaster is important.

Alert is also good.

Anybody taken a look at these FF Classes?

Haven't checked the numbers, but it looks like a lot of work went into this one.

Dark Knight looks neat.
http://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/print/B1HBWX5j?dialog=true

>>50317308
"just ask my dm" is a good solution for these type of problems, because they are the ones who will have to clear you on using it anyway.

UA when?
Mystic round 3 when?

>>50317632
Monday, probably going to be cleric domains.

It's slated before the end of the year. Current thoughts are that they'll sneak it in after the monk UA, so that'd be December 19th.

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5ed noob here wanting to play a paladin like my pic.
How do I make a charecter like Arty?

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Is there any mid-level difficulty NPC stat block that can use Manoeuvre?

I know there is little to no chance one of the players I have will be interested in the Battlemaster, and I kinda want to surprise them with a foe who has Fighter tricks.

>>50317673
Add them onto the knight, gladiator, champion, etc. stat blocks. Don't limit them like superiority dice but don't give them extra damage. None of the maneuvers will change their actual CR without the additional damage.

For reference though, the warlord stat block in VGM has maneuvers as legendary actions (it kicks serious ass).

>>50317651
Actually it was stated for November by Mearls

>>50317705
He never actually said November, he said "soon" and "before the end of the year," which people assumed meant November since they weekly UA deal wasn't announced yet.

https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/799064796607889409

>>50317684
Thanks!

>the warlord stat block in VGM has maneuvers as legendary actions (it kicks serious ass).

Yeah, I know. I was pretty surprised to see it in the book, to be honest.

>>50317477
The races look weak. No notable signature abilities, just reusing established traits so while it might be usable for a FF campaign it has no appeal on its own. Most of them are 50% skill proficiencies, really badly designed. Also advantage on sight-based perception check, kek.

Generally with this amount of content none of it will be notable or good, just mediocre to bad and I don't see anything to contradict that here.

>>50317732
>Posts a november 16 twit
Look better

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>>50317791

What kind of things could happen to students of a Wizardry Academy? (think Winterhold).

/tg/, two of my groups PC's died and want to re-roll as a noble/bodyguard combo

What are the best classes you've seen pull this kind of vibe off. So far I'm thinking Wizard and Barbarian, but they need some ideas to kick off the inspiration.

>>50317783
apparently it is a compilation of many things released and revised over a year, i came across several iterations of some of the classes before i found the full document.

>>50317871
If you google it, I'm sure any of /tg/'s archived Mages Guild threads are a goldmine of ideas. Potion shenanigans, transformations shenanigans, a spell misfires and they'll get in trouble if anybody finds out, blackmail from other students, sex scandals and identity theft, ghosts in the dungeons and the mystery of the missing tome, go wild man.

FIELD TRIPS

>>50309492
Rapist Ogre hunting for booty

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>>50317346
>all Warlocks are Cthulhus.

>>50317872
Abjuration mountain dwarf wizard is the bodyguard, from a long standing family tradition. Members are tutored from a very early age and only a select few can pledge their life to protecting a member of the highest standing.

Noble is a reckless 20 year-old human either a swashbuckler, or some charisma battlemaster (rally maneuver, inspiring leader feat, etc.)

You can call the latter sir Artemis Fowl

>>50317876
Yeah I saw some of it as it came out. I think it's more because he wants to make x fit into D&D and takes the easiest approach to do so, while homebrew that is more focused usually has goals beyond just representing some fluff. He doesn't want to create a new, interesting race that can be used in some games, he wants to create something that feels enough like a video game race to make it possible to portray that race in D&D. Regardless of why it has happened, at least as the races go they are bland and there's zero reason to use them outside of really wanting to do FFXIV.

>>50317910
Having read and loved the first three AF books, i absolutely love this idea. Thanks anon.

I'm thinking of other pairing ideas for them too - married couple could be fun, for example. Owner and slave warrior maybe. Agent and his prize-fighter from the gladiator pits. A marshall and the fugitive he's taking to see justice, maybe. Thoughts?

>>50317125

But I don't want to be an archer.

>>50317917
frankly i skipped the races and kumped to the classes, because well, id never run an ffxiv game, but i could see myself running an ivalice fft era game.

>>50317346

Archangel better respect Clerics belong to the gods and his bitch ass just a jabroni.

Demon lord better respect Wizards don't need a patron and his bitch ass just a jabroni.

>>50317878
My players would be playing investigators of the Great Academy, getting paid to find out why this remote college is having issues paying and why students are inexplicably disappearing.

I'm more interested about the outcomes of incidents than adventures in themselves. Thanks a lot though!

TRIP FIELD is still happening though, fosho.

>>50317894
maybe not, but none of them are wizards, druids, healers, or holy martial champions.

>>50317950
just dont see why they have the monopoly on patrons and patron-themed mechanics of any kind.

>>50317931
I mean yea, all good ideas. But shouldnt it be the players task to come up with these?

>>50317917
Also the grammar of course, which gives it all a very unprofessional style.
>Firebolt
>spell casting ability
>athletics (swimming) checks.
>a storried history of being a great sailors.
>Sea Wolves vs. Seawolf
And that's just one page.

>>50317940
Same, but I'm always on the prowl for good racial abilities and they don't take as much time to read so it's usually what I end up reading in compilations.

>>50317943
Hmmm let me think. Off the top of my head.

Cultists, always cultists.
Doppelgangers.
Students are getting lost in Escher-esque magical dimensions that disguise themselves as the usual hallways and rooms of the college, then traps them in mirror-worlds while it drains their life force. Like a universal predator with the ultimate camoflage.

Trickery god shenanigans stealing people away.
The fucking FAE.

>>50317956
These two players are good players, but when it comes to making characters they need help being inspired to break away from basic shit - they asked my help, so I'm asking /tg/ is all senpai.

>>50317953

But Clerics and Paladins do have patrons, Anon.

In all seriousness, though, I did once play a Warlock/Sorcerer who had been a regular cultist until he actually met his patron and was more or less magically irradiated into Sorcererhood, so that's kind of a self-imposed limit you've got there.

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>>50309653
I use this

>>50317961
I see. Good on you for helping them out!
Slave/master is tricky i think, but i've always loved the idea of agent/champion. Agent should probably be mastermind rogue but i've heard the subclass is pretty shit. Scamy Divination Wizard would make sense too.

>>50317871

Evil teacher with a devious plot

Magical artifact hidden in the Academy's bowels

A wizard comes up with a bold new theory, and will try to prove it no matter the cost

A wizard comes up with what seems to be a bold new theory, and can prove it, but it turns out he obtained this knowledge by stealing it from rather... unpleasant beings, and now they're coming for the wizard.

A member of the faculty is actually a Tome Pact Warlock.

A rival school challenges the Academy to a competition.

A knight arrives at the Academy and challenge one of the PCs to a duel.

A visit by a powerful Sorcerer ignites a conflict among the students, one camp thinking only Wizard magic is worthwhile magic, the other thinking that all magic forms should be considered worth it.

Priests of the god of magic comes to the Academy, hoping to convince students to join their clergy.

A Bard perform a concert for the Academy. The next morning, he and several students have entirely disappeared.

Students decide to re-start a forgotten tradition, only for things to turn to a disaster when the reasons why this tradition was dead and burried resurfaces.

Someone has been stealing all the sweets and desserts of the Academy. The cook blame the elves.

An orc shows up, asking to learn magic.

Two princesses in an inheritance conflict show up and demand to learn how to cast a spell. The first one to succeed would be considered the true heir.

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>>50317346
>Expecting angels not to be weird cthulhu creatures

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Any recommendations for third-party material?

DM's guild or otherwise (did anything good actually come out of that?).

Are paladins impartial or are they on some kingdoms payroll?

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I've watched Slayers recently and was really inspired by picrelated - a recurring villain, who is killed every single time he appears, but it turns out that he's just many clones of one guy. I want to insert a similiar villain into my game. What kind of races/powers can pull/are famous for pulling off "many, but actually one" thing?

>>50318057
Depends strongly on the setting and oath. I would imagine, oath of the crown paladins would mostly be on the payroll of the goverment (unless their oath is to goverment in exile, or to a dead bloodline or something), while such oaths as Ancients would be independent and free-spirited.

>College of Glamour
Oh god, this is gonna be like one of those animes where a tall big-breasted woman casts beauty magics?

>>50318068
So I guess only those who are under a kingdom's payroll would have any authority to do shit while the rest will be treated as any fighter/mercenary, am I right?

>>50309492

Long, deep cave. Hungry bullettes
Underground town, so many wights
Mind flayers in dwarf keep
Beholder in a sky castle
Vampires, vampires, and more vampires
Underwater prison for a lich
Kobolds, orcs, goblins, oh my
Sentient tigers take a keep
Flail snails in my garden
Treasure hoard is really golem
Everything is a damn mimic

>>50318032
from what i can tell, nobody knows because nobody bothers to rate or review any of it.

>>50318086
they might also be like knights of a church, and have authority that way.

>>50318058
simulacrum?

>>50309492

Frog god interferes with election.

>>50310383
That one is still fucking ugly as fuck.

I use this too. >>50317971

>>50318098
Also because it's highly subjective. The Pugilist class, for instance, has been praised numerous times, but is pretty garbage design-wise and not really satisfactory or balanced... especially if you alreasy have a monk in the party. I had to rework it for one of my players.

I assume it's the same for a lot of homebrewed & DM Guild stuff.

>>50318086
A paladin is literally imbued with JUSTICE, anon, and he's also most likely a knight. Even those not officially on someone's payroll will be respected.

>>50318080
inb4 kitsune bards

>>50318015
>>50317961
pretty good ideas!
some of them could be of use.

i'd like an event that would engage the players, with a sense of urgency. maybe something to chase outside of the academy. anything that'd fit the bill more than the regular yeti hunt?

>>50318032
>>50318124
I'd like to know this too. But let me also ask a more specific question: has anyone made a decent "complicated" fighter (i.e one that works more-or-less like a 4e martial dude) that isn't too broken?

>>50318147
Students are sleepwalking, complaining of difficulty sleeping without explanation.

If you stand by the windows overlooking the snowy forest and wait for the wind to die down, you can hear the softest of harps playing in the distance, the sweetest melody you've ever heard,and it instills in you an intense longing you haven't felt since you were a child.

It's almost enough to make you want to leap off the edge and go into the forest to hear it better, but that would be suicide surely. Wouldn't it?

When you leave, hours later, you can't get the tune out of your head. People are whistling it in the corridors, humming it as they study.

[Lovable NPC] has gone missing - there seems only one logical place she could have gone.

>>50318147
Irregular Seafaring Yeti Pirate Hunt

>>50318181
would the academy suddenly turn into a ship ffxviii style, as the "wizards" realize they've been studying maritime navigation and wind prediction this whole time?

This might just work.

>>50318172
You mean battlemaster? :^)

>>50318177
Oldie but goldie. Any idea of the culprit?

>>50318264
THE FUCKING FAE

Real talk,any of the weird-ass temptress type creatures from the Tome of Beasts. Drowned maidens etc.

A curse brought upon by a lovesick student.

Guess we should add Sam Witwer to the growing list of Hollywood actors who have played or still play D&D.
He's a special guest in Ep 29 of Dice, Camera, Action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvihkGv1Gh8

Could someone please advise which page the Mad Mage is on in Curse of Strahd?

I'm making a sandbox mini campaign. The main issue in the Sandbox is that a river which defined a border has changed course, revealing an underwater cave with gold and danger. Both sides of the border are about to come to blows over this now.

What are some other things I could include in this type of story/sandbox?

>>50318360
I loved his act, with a voice close to Tom Hardy. It didnt last for long but giving him Mordenkainen was pretty fkn great. Chris Perkins was having so much fun

>>50318369
Page 39, or under Lands of Barovia -> Areas of Barovia -> M

>>50318369
Ctrl-F "mad mage". He's just an archmage, look in NPC part of Monsters Manual

>>50318376
If it's sandbox... pretty much anything. There are pretty cool ideas in this thread, look at >>50309492 replies

>>50318394
>>50318395
Thanks heaps, brahs.

>>50318390
Definitely agree with you, brah. He was great, and a bit different to the other guests they've had on the show. Actually, all of the guests have been pretty good.

>>50318376

Ask yourself: "who is around here, and how would they react to the situations?"

>>50318454
Even the regulars are pretty okay. This show would be so very enjoyable if they fixed their numerous sound issues. I mean even just buying a better mic for Perkins. WotC is so fucking dumb.

>>50317651
I really pumped to see the final verson of the mystic still I wonder what druids will get for new archetypes?

>>50318490
Yeah me too, pretty curious about them.

The "evil"/plague archetype hasn't been officially done yet so I guess they could go with that first.

inb4 sun druid of sunny sunlight

>>50318484
Pretty sure D&D department of WotC has no budget whatsoever and DCA is essentially Perkins's own initiative

>>50318520
>sun druid of sunny sunlight
Sooo... Light domain?

So I got a new player for the game. We did most of his first character ever before he had to go yesterday, but now that I wait for players, It turns out that some other folk won't be here.
This usually means that we play another 5e campaign, for the people who are pretty much always.

Is It a dick move to make the new guy create another character? I'm a bit in a panic mode

>>50311299
Kek. The barbarian is a warforged who doesn't pick many social cues and when he feels something it's usually rage, while the paladin has pretty much celibacy mixed up in his oath, so being charmed was something new on it's own.
I like the DM, he's ensuring each of us get to do something the characters enjoy while working together on something bigger

I've been out of the game for months. What's the mystic?

>>50318563
5e version of Psion. Only released so far in bits in Unearthed Arcana articles

>>50318546

What's the issue with the character the new player created?

In any case, you should talk with the new player and ask what they think

>>50318569

Thanks!

Does it look good so far?

>>50318587
Seems interesting. Didn't actually test it

>>50318574
It's about the level difference, really. Also, yeah. I should just talk with my people. I actually forgot that option even existed.

I just hope It won't discourage the new guy

>>50313507
emoji are japanese constructs.

>>50318587
Yes, but it definitely needs more work.
Really hoping they don't fuck it up.

>>50319999
Arguably, using PPs as a resource means they already fucked it up. It's so not-5e in its approach that it makes me sad.

>>50320108
Except Spell Points is a variant rule supported in the fucking DMG
How in the fuck it isn't 5e?

>>50320129
1. Using the word "fuck" multiple times doesn't make your argument more compelling.
2. It's a variant rule for a reason, and that reason is that it adds unnecessary complexity to a streamlined game design. It might be fun for some people, which is why it's described, but it's not the default and the designers didn't think it should be.

>>50320108
One could argue that they should just make it a sorc origin if you want to be that boring.

I think it works just fine. Spell points are as mentioned in the DMG and are cooler anyways.

>>50320170
He said it once.
Unnecessary complexity? It's arguably simpler than spell slots. It's literally one number you track instead of up to 9, each of which can only be used on specific things (eg the 3 level 5 spell slots you have can only be used for some 3rd level spells, and then some lower level ones)

I imagine the designers didn't think should be the default because DnD has always "always" operated off spell slots and they didn't want to rock the boat too hard in 5e, not because it's super complex or something.

>>50320170
Somehow point-bases resource managenent seems more streamlined to me than the mess that is spell slots

>>50320209
oh hah he said it twice I didn't even register one time despite reading it twice. That's odd. My bad. Also I said "3rd level spells", and meant "5th level spells."
Christ.

>>50320209
>and they didn't want to rock the boat too hard in 5e
That's pretty much 5e's design motto

>PC has less than 15 strength
>PC gets lycanthropy
>PC strength goes up to 15
>PC cures lycanthropy
Does the PC keep the strength increase?

>>50320172
See >>50320170. It's a variant cool for people like you who think it's cool (and by all means - use them if you like them!).
Also included in the DMG variant rules are proficiency dice, hero points, sanity, and plot points. They weren't included in the default rules for a reason, but are described for people who want to use them.

>>50320209
>>50320210
Maybe I'm just used to slots, but it's convenient to know I can expend all my Magic Missiles and still have a Fireball left over.

>>50320219
It's all right, I wasn't going to get anal about that shit. Do you see what I did there

>>50320247
Up to you. Probably not by intent but might be cool to keep it

>>50320247
I don't think so, which is super obnoxious because our wizard refused to be cured, which eventually led to us having to kill him.
But if you got to keep it, powergamers would be creating builds that rely on temporary lycanthropy, which is awful and shouldn't be encouraged.

>>50320300
It's fine for one campaign with likely only one recipient. And no one forces you to make the same ruling in the next campaign

>>50320288
Yeah, I think Spell Slots and PP go for a really different design and perspective what with the "expend MM and still have a fireball."

I dunno, I really like seeing alternative methods to "magic" and it gives the Psion a unique design space that isn't just "Why did you not just make a Psychic Origin for the Sorc?" - this lets it do some more neat stuff. Plus, I visualize Psions as more fluid (and "stamina" based) than EG wizards, and this, I believe, reflects that. Also I kind of dislike spell slots.

It *is* basically making official a "variant rule" which will be unique thus far. I don't think that's too bad, but I guess you do.

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>>50309352

>worried about skeletons
>not being a latin bard to make the skeletons dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35YJLIyBkEc

>>50320372
If they release the mystic outside of UA, it won't be optional, meaning official games will have to accept it. Thus, I think it's important to discuss how it coexists with other classes.

I agree that it shouldn't be a sorcerer origin (although my group did that once before the Mystic first came out). That wouldn't make any sense because psions don't shoot fireballs.
That said, bards and clerics couldn't be farther apart in their spellcasting, but use the same system. Why isn't it good enough for psionics? Like spell slots, PPs were kept partially because of tradition. Except I don't think this tradition was particularly easy to use (having played psionics back in 2e). They probably improved it since then, but I'm still skeptical that it was ever necessary.
Other casters also have magical energy they expend on doing things. Spell slots just help abstract that in a way that helps make sure lower-level spells don't disappear in favor of casting more high-level spells.

>>50320247
Nah. Curing lycanthropy should remove all its effects, including the beneficial ones

>>50320170
Go patronize yo momma yo

fuck

>>50320439
Thank you for your thought-out rebuttal of my argument.