So me and the wife have been thinking about getting into warhammer.

>>50293508
They are both pretty shit right now. 40k is marginally better however.

>>50293508
AoS is a lot easier (and cheaper) to get into. If you have a GW shop nearby go in and ask for a demo game of eitehr (or both). It really depends on which setting you prefer though, sci fi or fantasy?

>>50293920
They gave me a handful of Space marines, but i'm not sure if the wife will enjoy aliens, "soldiers," etc. I can see if they have some AoS giveaways.

Thank you for your replies

Both.of you should look over the armies to choose and come to a consensus. So, see which is played more in your area

Play any other miniature wargame. Seriously, they're pretty much all better and cheaper. 40k is an absolute mess of a game, AoS is missing about half the rules it needs.

>>50293508
play frostgrave, the cost is way less, rules a lot simpler, and you can share the box's of characters. i find a lot of women like it for the ease of rules, and by a lot, i mean 2

>>50293508
Don't waste your money on either.

>>50294178
>but i'm not sure if the wife will enjoy aliens, "soldiers," etc

For some reason most 40k female players either seem to go with Dark Eldar or Tyranids.

Dark Eldar are vicious sadistic drug-abusing rapist space pirate elves, and Tyranids are a gestalt consciousness of hyper-predatory doom from a galaxy far, far away. kek

>>50293920
But AoS isn't fantasy, it's more like "12 year old's drawings put together".

Sigmar's probably the better game by itself as someone that very casually games. The infrastructure's a lot better due to the free rules that have easy access to them and are much simpler.

I just don't like the lore of sigmar that much and I wasn't even around for fantasy days and 40k is still in its original universe despite changes over the years.

40k also has a lot more customisation options and decisions you can make when building your army compared to Sigmar. Often for Sigmar it's a choice of maybe three weapons and sometimes other options for characters but one is often not necessarily better than the other whereas 40k has a lot of upgrades and gear you can give your squads to be very different.

>>50293508
40k used to be the easy system for casuals. GW really fucked over fantasy with this AoS bullshit. My advice, don't give GW any money

>>50297685
Please do show me multiple 12 year olds that can draw better than Sigmar's art

Op you will not find any non-biased response here. Including mine.

Prior to AoS was Warhammer fantasy. Games workshop killed it off and the ass devestation from such an event has butt holes still puckering in reverberation at the mere mention of games workshop or age of sigmar. They will shit on the game, company, no matter what rightly or wrongly. Only you can decide if what you see you like. Aos players will generally stick to there own general since they are shit on from every angle anywhere else. The game is heavily simplified, enjoyable and quite casual so it is easy to play, there is some tactical depth and the community is growing for it, whether you like it or hate it that much is true.

For me personally it would seem a more viable option for your wife but what do I know.

40k has really enjoyable lore, a large array of armies and some really great models, but the rules at the moment are just a cluster fuck and there is a lot of scope for completely tabling (wiping out) your opponent without even particularly trying to. That obviously leads to not a fun game for one player (or the other desu unless your a total wanker) that being said there is nothing stopping you trying to balance games between each other but that would require a lot of knowledge of the armies and rules.

I would actually recommend something like Blood Bowl. I haven't ever actually played it, but it comes out next month I believe and is a warhammer fantasy football type game. You can pick a faction and paint them up to see if you enjoy that side of the hobby without spending much money and it being more of a board game I presume is quicker to play and probably more balanced.

>>50293508
>40k
Nope.
>age of sigmar
Yes, best models and best rules.

>>50293920
>and cheaper
>100 USD for 3 anime chaos knights

>>50293508
Just do 40k kill team- boom ez. It's 40 without games worshop hewing you into 1000-2000 point games.

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>>50297245
>>50299073

thanks for your replies (and to everyone, shitpost or not). definately have some things to reflect over. I do hope she likes this though, she didn't keep up with me in magic (she got burnt out on standard, and I wound up buying into modern, legacy, aka alienating her.)

Hopefully she'll enjoy it

>>50298717
>ADVANCE THE SETTING ADVANCE THE SETTING. DON'T GIVE GW MONEY BECAUSE THEY WON'T ADVANCE THE SETTING LE JEWS WON'T DO ANYTHING TO THEIR CASH COW

>GW ADVANCED THE SETTING EVERYTHING IS RUINED MUH HEADCANON GW RUINED EVERYTHING FOR MORE MONEY ALL IS RUINED FOR THEM TO SELL MORE MINIS LE HAPPY MERCHANTS DON'T BUY GW

They truly cannot win.

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>>50299717
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>50300542
Lorefags are the loudest, being fags and all. Especially since they have tons of time to shitpost, as they don't actually collect or play the game.

Actual players don't want that shit forced on them.

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>>50293508
40k is a mess right now. Not necessarily the basic rules (though they are more complicated than AoS), but the number of different armies, the special rules each army has, formations (take certain combos and get a points discount), and balance are all over the place.

Horus Heresy is basically the 40k rules with better-balanced, less-varied armies. You'd start with a Betrayal at Calth or Burning of Prospero box and get Forge World stuff for the rest. That does mean it's more expensive. But consider it - it's a better game and a good community that's more narrative-driven and less competitive. Great podcasts, too (Eye of Horus, Radio Free Isstvan, Age of Darkness, etc.).

I'm a 40k fan myself and hope they streamline it a bit in the next edition.

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>>50298746
Better than this? Shouldn't be hard.

Play a historical wargame, don't touch Warhammer with a 10 foot pole.

What's the deal with age of Sigmar? Why did they change the name? Last I was into Warhammer it was just called Warhammer and the rules were more complex than 40K, not less. What happened?

>>50302700
WFB failed to sell very many miniatures and the company recognized that a change was needed to revitalize the line, but the leadership at the time was very hamhanded about it leading to all the die hard WFB fans being really pissed off.

Then the new leadership came in, fixed most of what was wrong with the game, and it is now becoming really popular, but still is not as popular as 40k yet. Even GW was surprised at how well it is selling, which struck me as a little odd.

>>50302700
>What happened?
GW tried to make their own Warmachine-like skirmish.
>>50302718
>fixed most of what was wrong with the game
Well GH just fix the most obvious holes like point system, broken magic (endless summoning, 1+ save etc), but it's still interactive diorama, not a game.
>and it is now becoming really popular,
Proofs? Num,bers in GW financial reports says that sales still falling.

>>50302746
Didn't you just say this >>50299717

>>50302755
Yes, AoS better than 40k.

>>50302575
Is that a Nagrand?

>>50302762
>but it's still interactive diorama

So 40K is an interactive diorama and not a game also?

>>50302776
>So 40K is an interactive diorama and not a game also?
Yes, 40k overloaded by dices to be interactive diorama.

>>50302575
So there is no usual mortal races in AoS?

>>50302746
At the game stores in my area at least, there are a lot of AoS players and frequent tournaments.

The GH summoning/reserve system is actually pretty cool I think, and I like battleshock a lot better than morale.

>Proofs? Num,bers in GW financial reports says that sales still falling.
Yes in 2015-2016 sales did fall a little bit. They don't break it down by quarter, but I bet Q3 and Q4 of 2015 were real stinkers. The only good release then was Betrayal at Calth, and despite the lip service it got I am not sure it moved the volume they were hoping for. Beyond that, they repackaged a lot of models. It shouldn't be a surprise that the not-new-models had a lukewarm reception.

They haven't released the half year report for 2016 yet, so it is all just speculation from us. Still, I see people in the store playing games, so in my area at least, it is doing well.

>>50302816
Depends? They exist in the lore, but most don't have new models yet. They have released new dwarves though, and people hated them.

Chaos still have their mortals, and the bloodreavers (khorne marauders) in particular look fantastic.

Bretonians have been teased, but nothing's been announced.

>>50302838
>They exist in the lore
And how usual mortals suppose to live in such locations?
Also, nice Outland cosplay, but Blizzard maps still nicer

>>50302867
I'm not an expert on AoS lore, but some of the different dimensions and places in their high concept multiverse are supposed to be perfectly livable.

>>50302872
>in their high concept multiverse
You mean concept of "Todd's perfect TES game"?

>>50302867
There is water, food, and air. The Tauroi part is where humans live in caves.

>>50302882
Look it isn't all great, but since the initial unveil they've got some better authors on board. Check the AoS generals or 1d4chan since they pretty much always have people talking about the books.

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>>50302575
>Nugatoria
sounds delicious as FUCK

>>50302903
It's the Slaaneshi part of the broken planet, IIRC. It's probably tastes of semen.

>>50293508
40k Kill Team keeps it small and quick but still maintains variation. I enjoy it and it is how I get new people into the hobby.
Also all the rules/codices are in the wh40k general here in tg...so the rules are free.
If your wife is on the ledge about Sci fi, show her the eldar (space elves). They're pretty neat.

Otherwise, AoS for your fantasy kick.

>>50302838
>At the game stores in my area at least, there are a lot of AoS players and frequent tournaments.
I hope you realize that this is just your local eperience.
>Yes in 2015-2016 sales did fall a little bit.
Nope they keep falling since 2013 (when they fell a 25%).
>The only good release then was Betrayal at Calth,
And a lot of AoS releases.

>>50302890
>food
In lava-islands?
>The Tauroi part is where humans live in caves.
They lived in asteroids?

>>50302943
>And a lot of AoS releases.
most repackaging and stormcrap and centerpiece releases nobody gave a shit about. I mean really, how many gargantuan 200 dollar centerpiece kits do we really need?

>>50302893
>they've got some better authors on board.
It's still lower than Warcraft art and writing.
Shit, I never thought I will see the day when GW will steal the whole race from Warcraft.

>>50302961
>I mean really, how many gargantuan 200 dollar centerpiece kits do we really need?
A lot since they making the game.

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>>50302973
I don't think people even use the centerpieces in their army, or if they do, they include like one in a 2000 point list

As awesome as this dragon is, the only real use for it I can see is to have it look nice on the shelf.

They made a game then made models that were shitty for the game they made.

>>50302950
>In lava-islands?

The Tauroi doesn't have lava. It has wild animals and a beastmen.

>They lived in asteroids?

Kinda. Floating continents more like.

>>50302966
>whole race

What race?

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>>50302986
>awesome
It's ugly, where is fucking muscles, fury, might? It looks like dragon with down syndrome.

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>>50302998
You know the black orcs that existed in WFB previously? they gave them some new models with a slightly different art direction that look... a bit familiar.

>>50303031
These greenskins are not Black Orcs. They are a whole different breed of Orcs and I still don't see what you are implying.

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>>50302998
Take a guess, and let's not forget about not-Ogres, not-goblins, not-Orcs faction.

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>>50303019
fine, what about Alarielle the Everthighs, who never skips leg day?

Mind you, that is a 160mm base she on. She is really huge.

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>>50303040

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>>50303040
You don't see the resemblance?

>>50303045
All these factions are older than warcraft.

>>50303046
>what about Alarielle the Everthighs, who never skips leg day?
It looks like GW finally make first transgender model. If not then I cannot understand why they give female name to male model.

>>50303063
Age of Sigmar: 2015
Warcraft: 1991

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>>50303057
You mean the mouth piece or what?

>>50303031
>warcraft invented orcs
I can't tell if you're being ironic or if you legitimately believe this

>>50303081
WHFB comes from the 80s.

>>50293508
Age of Sigmar has the worse models by a country mile. Its rules are better, but they're also boring as hell. 40k has better models and a way better kitbashing community, but the game itself isn't very good right now.

AoS has some orbiters from real Fantasy, but most of them hate AoS and its fans.

>>50303099
>WHFB comes from the 80s.
And closed in 2015
And I cannot remember such race as Highborne.

>>50303081
nice bait

>>50303097
He is claiming GW stole high elves, despite them existing in WFB lore from the 80s and being a stable of TTRPGs even longer than that

>>50297245
>or Tyranids.

We've figured that out. It's one part cutification, one part wanting to be fucked with a big alien dick.

>>50303084
>You mean the mouth piece or what?
Common design of armor and gian weapon.

>>50303113
It continued in Age of Sigmar which is a sequel. But you remember goblins, high elves, orcs, and orges which fantasy invented first.

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>>50303116
>We've figured that out. It's one part cutification, one part wanting to be fucked with a big alien dick.
Imagine being inside one of these things

>>50303134
>is a sequel.
It's totally different setting with different races (well except humans)
>goblins, high elves, orcs, and orges
Cannot find such races in AoS.

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>>50303127
So you are saying that warcraft stole from fantasy greenskins?

The desgin doesn't even look the same. The warcraft Orcs are half naked.

>>50303147
Now you are trolling. This is your last (you)

>>50303163
>Now you are trolling.
lolwut? Seriously I cannot find orcs or high elves in AoS fluff.

>>50303069
tradition. Have you SEEN the sisters of battle?

>>50303172
>Have you SEEN the sisters of battle?
New?

>>50303170
That's cause you're MERELY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED and are purposely ignoring that we have told you that ALL the races in AoS are LITERALLY the same as the WHFB races. They even use the same models for most of them for fucks sake
>>50303154
"What are savage orcs"

>>50303178
No. All the old ones. pretty much every SoB model has a serious case of manface

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>>50303154
>The desgin doesn't even look the same. The warcraft Orcs are half naked.
Sure.
Also, this model >>50303031 have a fucking Gorehowl

>>50303191
>"What are savage orcs"

We are talking about black Orcs who are never naked. In fact, they ask the savage Orcs to cover themselves because it's shame and they are disgrace.

>>50303191
>we have told you that ALL the races in AoS are LITERALLY the same as the WHFB races.
They didn't call themselves orcs or goblins or asrai they totally different and was created after "countless millenia" (timeskip between ET and founding of Mortal Realms).
>They even use the same models for most of them for fucks sake
Yes, GW was too lazy, nothing new.
ALso, they all (except rats) renamed.

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>>50303200
pic related was from the same release and I don't know why they didn't lead with them instead, since they are a lot more distinctly GW orc/ork.

>>50303217
>created

They weren't created. Left the old world and settled in the new world and then changed their names.

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>>50303200
And that guy looks a lot like a shitty grimgor Ironhide. What's your fucking point

>>50303225
GW made manage to made even more ugly model than Razogor. How?
No seriously, the boar is very poorly sculpted.

>>50303237
Yeah, in one of the first fucking bits of AoS fluff it says that it turns out that Sigmar's hunk of the old world wasn't the only one to survive and pretty much every single race from WHFB managed to make it out somehow, be it through their gods making the new places or the guys just hangin' on somehow

>>50303237
>They weren't created.
Fluff says they were created Oruks (totally original name, nothing simmilar with Uruks) by GorkaMorka.
>Left the old world
How? In ET planet was destroyed. And I cannot remember anything about great evacuation (except lizards, but they all died in space and in AoS they are spirits).

>>50303243
It ain't a boar. It's some sorta coked up superboar from the realm of beasts

>>50303260
There is even a story about two infighting Orc tribes that survived the End Times, made it to mortal realms, and then continued to infight for thousands of years. Their warbosses are not mountain sized.

>>50303271
Still looks like one piece of mold, they didn't even care a lot about legs.

>>50303238
>And that guy
Saufang?

>>50303265
>Fluff says they were created Oruks

Wrong.

Gork and Mork created only one Orruk whose name is Gordrakk during the Age of Chaos so that he can unite them. The rest of the greenskins were already there fighting everyone.

>How?

As the world was eaten, the Realm of Chaos teleported them to the the mortal realms.

>>50303291
That's the guy Saurfang ripped off. Grimgor's been around a long time

>>50303301
>The rest of the greenskins were already there fighting everyone.
Proofs?
>the Realm of Chaos teleported them to the the mortal realms.
So you admit that they was changed in warp.
Also, in ET all elves was eaten by Slaanesh and all dwarves died in the novel.

>>50303311
>That's the guy Saurfang ripped off.
Sorry, but I cannot see anything simmilar in their design except two-edged axe

>>50303319
No. Nothing got changed in the (Nonexistent) warp. And if you actually cared to read the fluff, you'd realize that the "Realm of chaos" is the old world after chaos won.
The elf gods later punched the bloated slaanesh so hard (s)he barfed up all the elf souls and then disappeared for god knows how long.

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>>50302575
TOP FUCKING KEK
GW, pls.
>>50302990
>It has wild animals and a beastmen.
How? There is no water, no forests, it's literally asteroids.

>>50303331
You claim that he ripped off saurfang but the second that I tell you, "No, this guy predates him" you go "U-uh... I-I don't see any similarities but the axe!"

>>50303319
>Proofs?

Age of Sigmar book 1.

Orruk battletome.

Fist of Gork.

And >>50303278 from the Hunt for Mannfred audiobook series

> in ET all elves was eaten by Slaanesh

No, only the elves that died.

>all dwarves died in the novel.

No, after the Incarnates lost, the novel says that there were hidden dwarf holds in the planet. Why do you lie?

>So you admit that they was changed in warp.

Not always.

>>50303357
Because we ALL know that blizzard INVENTED the concept of floating islands.
And what are you fucking talking about. There's TONS of water there. It's just green for some reason (Probably due to some metal in it)

>>50303345
>And if you actually cared to read the fluff, you'd realize that the "Realm of chaos" is the old world after chaos won.
Sorry, I stoped reading fanfic-tier writing about Space Marines long time ago.
>>50303345
>The elf gods
They died in ET.
>barfed up all the elf souls
So they created new race from their souls, and it's different race that's why they didn't use old names (azur, druuchi, asrai).

>>50303357
you realize the green shit in the GW pic is not supposed to be grass right?

>>50303357
>it's literally asteroids

Magical asteroids. The land is made from the winds of magic which are sentient.

The Beastmen hunt humans and wild animals for food. The humans live in caves.

>>50303374
>Age of Sigmar book 1.
I mean page.
>No, only the elves that died.
And all elves died.
>there were hidden dwarf holds
Which was destroyed when planet blowed up, or these hold have Rock-tier Void-shields?

>>50303377
So you admit you're just shitposting now.
And if I make a sword. melt it down to iron, then forge an IDENTICAL sword from said metal, does it cease to be a sword? According to you yes.
God you're probably one of those morons who think that Stormcasts are animated suits of armor

>>50303377
>So they created new race from their souls

Nope, the elves made it Azyr but only Azyr. There where no elves in other realms so Malerion andTyrion went to Slaanesh to fix it.

>>50303386
>The Beastmen hunt humans and wild animals for food.
Yes I get it, Taurens warp-mutants, but how animals and humans lives without water, without food?

>>50303389
How about instead of making statements about a setting and providing ZERO evidence, and asking us to provide evidence for our statements, and then asking for more when we do, YOU provide some evidence to back up your statements.

>>50303390
>does it cease to be a sword?
It will be different sword.
>God you're probably one of those morons who think that Stormcasts are animated suits of armor
Nope, they looks like black Blood Angels without Black Rage and Red Thirst, literally Space Marine without cool fluff.
>>50303408
>YOU provide some evidence to back up your statements.
End Times, most of elves died in ET;Khaine the rest died in battle with Archaon.
>>50303400
>, the elves made it Azyr but only Azyr.
How? It's totally contradicts WHFB ET lore.

>>50303389
>I mean page.

The page that takes about Gorkamorka Waaagh!

>And all elves died.

Nope, the Elves left behind in the forest didn't die.

>ich was destroyed when planet blowed up, or these hold have Rock-tier Void-shields?

The planet wasn't blown up. It was swallowed by the realm of Chaos. The holds and dwarfs in them were taken by the Realm of Chaos and they found themselves in the mortal realms.

The only thing that Chaos couldn't swallow was the core of the world.

>>50303400
>Nope, the elves made it Azyr but only Azyr.
So why they chaged name?

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>>50303402
But anon, they do have food. It just changes them.

>>50303135
Imagine having one of those inside you.

>>50303419
Book and page number.
AND HOLY SHIT DO YOU NOT EVEN READ WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AT THIS POINT you literally say "Most of the elves died in this" and then two lines later you go back to saying "No they all died"

>>50303419
>most of elves died in ET;Khaine the rest died in battle with Archaon.

No, Lileath only teleported some of them. Women, children, and their protectors were left behind.

Not to mention that Elves scattered across the world.

>>50303426
Tôhwon

>>50303426
because kirby was butthurt about chapthouse studios

there is a reason why the blood bowl reboot has the old factions as they were, taking place in an alternate universe where the end times didn't happen

>>50303422
>The page that takes about Gorkamorka Waaagh!
Could you post it?
>Nope, the Elves left behind in the forest didn't die.
Waht?
>The planet wasn't blown up.
Okay it's collapsed.
>>50303429
>they do have food.
Where? How animals could survive without water?
>>50303436
>No, Lileath only teleported some of them.
Lileath telepoted only Araloth and her daughter, and in Archaon haven was founded by Chaos.
>Not to mention that Elves scattered across the world.
What? All of them was in Ulthuan or Athel'Loren
>>50303442
>because kirby was butthurt about chapthouse studios
I*t's not part of fluff, in fluff they changed names because it's not the same races.

>>50303456
I already told you why the names changed changed It's "Tôhwon"

>>50303456
>Could you post it?

No, download it and read it. I am at work.

>Waht?

You didn't read the End Time novel did you?

>Lileath telepoted

She teleported some of the Elf army and the alliance armies from Athel to Archaon's city. any were left behind because they didn't have the power to teleport them all/

>All of them was in Ulthuan or Athel'Loren

Wrong.

>because it's not the same races.

Proof it.

>Okay it's collapsed.

Swallowed.

>buttblasted wfbfag hates fun and wants people to stop liking things he doesn't like

>>50303456
Okay since you can't seem to get it through your head, THE REASON THE NAMES ARE CHANGED IS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS SINCE THEY LAST WENT BY THAT NAME. LANGUAGE CHANGES OVER TIME

>>50303482
Pretty much exactly that. At this point it's pretty clear that's he's being deliberately retarded since he keeps asking for more evidence while providing none of his own, is contradicting himself in his own posts, and has FLAT OUT ADMITTED to not reading the fluff

>>50303491
we all took the bait though...

>>50303496
Stop samefagging.

>>50303496
eh. I'm more just killingt ime while I wait to pass out

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>>50303498
over 9000 hours ms paint to edit out the (You) so I could give it to you instead

>>50303465
>Tôhwon
Is that scandinavian word? What does it mean?
>>50303477
>No, download it and read it.
But I don't want to read Thorpe-tier writing.
>You didn't read the End Time novel did you?
I did it, all of them. No mentions of Webway gates or ship with void-shields.
>any were left behind because they didn't have the power to teleport them all/
So the rest of them died when planet collapsed and was separated from the world core.
>Proof it.
Different names, different history.
>>50303482
>>buttblasted wfbfag hates fun
>I cannot explain why I like this (since rules and writing at low level of quality and models aren't cheap or good), so I will say it's "fun" instead of arguments
>>50303485
>IT HAS BEEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS SINCE THEY LAST WENT BY THAT NAME.
So what? They didn't change their names during the whole WHFB chronology.
>LANGUAGE CHANGES OVER TIME
They all switched to English?

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>50303535
You are an impressively dense man/woman

You don't get a (You)

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>>50303376
>Because we ALL know that blizzard INVENTED the concept of floating islands.
Well in terms of setting where elf-like race named as Highborne, where orc-like dude wear Blackhand armor and Gorehowl, I think yes, GW steal design from Blizzard since Starcraft (picrelated pre-Starcraft tyranids).
>>50303379
>you realize the green shit in the GW pic is not supposed to be grass right?
Wait really? Okay my apologise

>>50303549
Explain please.

>>50303442
>there is a reason why the blood bowl reboot has the old factions as they were, taking place in an alternate universe where the end times didn't happen
BB always was aternate world.

>>50293508
Don't get into Warhammer. If you want to play miniature games there's a ton of actually good games with less horribly expensive miniatures. Kill the need to experience the coll universe of 40k/Fantasy through playing video games or reading books, but you are going to regret getting miniatures. The game is trash desinged to make you pay more for new miniaturs, and is almost completely reliant on army composition/dice luck, at least in the case of 40k. I know GW has the coolest universe and feeling for their games and miniatures. It's painful not to be able to enjoy the world. But the games are trash, and the miniatures are horribly expensive.

Sincerely,

An idiot who spent years and thousands of euros to a greedy assfucking company

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>>50303046
Nice Crypt Lord.
Why does she wear hijab?

>>50303623
Oh and btw if you two really need to try it out, buy used armies, or borrow someones and try the game out. You'll realize what I'm talking about.

I think the miniatures could maybe be used to play some other game - maybe some skirmish tactical scifi combat game with tweaked rules to support 40k could work, for example. But for the love of god, don't get into vanilla 40k.

>>50300542
Absolutely no one wanted them to change their lore, it was great. They could've just picked different times from between 30k and 40k, like they did with Battlefleet Gothic. Now the lore is shit.

They're both terrible games at this stage and 40k is about to have its rules nuked so anything you buy will be wasted.


What you want to get into is Warhammer 30k The Horus Heresy. It's a more specialised game but more balanced , flavourful, fun and fair game and the developers really care about it unlike 40k/ age of signmar. Forge world does the majority of models although there's some cheap plastic starter sets to get you in.

You can but a copy of burning of prospero and betrayal at calth and get enough models to start two armies then buy additional stuff as you see fit.

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>>50293508
OP, I don't wnat to sound like hater, but GW cannot into rules and you must pay 100 USD just for 3 models, for 96 USD you can buy picrelated, full starter, game field, terrain, markers, etc.
And unlike GW starters both armies will serve as perfect core for the larger army.