/tg/ tell me about the tankers if the Imperial Guard. Their experiences

>>50256427
It fucking sucks. You aren't even allowed to know how to repair your own vehicle, so if it gets damaged you're fucked if there isn't a tech-priest nearby.

>>50256443
technically, you can learn how to, but admech frown upon such practices.

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>>50256443
>>50256484
Depends on what sect of the Machine Cult you're dealing with.

See the first gray area.

>>50256427

WHAT??? YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP!!!! I DRIVE A TANK IN THE EMPEROR'S GUARD!!!

>>50256427
read Gunheads. It follows a tank commander as a guard armoured unit battles its way across an ork held planet.

>>50256427
Cadians are well-disciplined crews with solid equipment and maintenance practices. You learn your job, and you do that job over and over and over again until you become the best fucking gunner/loader/commander you can possibly be before you get promoted.

Vostroyans have large numbers of highly-sophisticated tanks that are often centuries old. Crewing them is a position of honor, in being trusted with such and incredibly storied and long-lived machine.

Catachans are apparently extremely reckless and have a habit of getting too close - but they sure do cause a shitload of damage to the enemy.

>>50256427
It's like being a German tanker on the eastern front but much much worse.

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>>50256427

Best job in the galaxy. Feeling the weight of your tank crush heretics below your treads, the rush of power as your cannon fells a swathe of enemy soldiers or punches holes through their armour. The joy of racking the slide on the pintle mounted stubber before unleasing a hail of rounds.

I have a near full tank army and damn is it fun to play. Gunheads as mentioned before is a good read, baneblade is pretty good too.

>>50257935
OP here anon and same I'm going full tank company soon when I get the money. Pics plz.

>>50256427
>Best job I ever had.

>>50257935
Would you include the first Macharius novel too? That had some pretty good armor clashes in it and showed how a crew lives(well a Baneblade crew).

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>>50258125
Here's a mixed army, ill take a pic of all my tanks when i get home

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>>50258648

>>50258648
>Yellow paint scheme on tanks
Are those Lemon Russ battle tanks anon?
But all jokes aside they look very good I'm more into a grey paint scheme with my army apparently with a lack of blue paint too.

>>50256427
Fun until anything competent comes against you. Pretty much anything that isn't a starving, feudal world child-soldier has some horrifying way of dismantling a guard tank.
You're still a piece of meat for the grinder.

>>50258814
Very much inspired by desert combat mainly soviet invasion of afghanistan.

I was sick of every guard army in the store painted in cadian colours

>>50258447
>Fury reference
My African-American.

>>50258911
That film was Imperial Guard as fuck.

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>>50258893
The most recent photo I have of mine anon. Currently painting another Demolisher and a Punisher +Pask is on the way.

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>>50258911
Speaking of fury i was inspired to do the interior

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>>50256443
I dunno if that's actually true. I mean, Recovery Gear is an actual option for you in the codex, and Fire Barrels are apparently a semi-common non-standard/approved attachment that Tankers use.

>>50256427
Depends on the tank, actually. Hellhound operators are often borderline-psychopaths, Banewolf crewman are described as being cold and taciturn (Even eating seperate from everyone else), and Commissariat Tankers are a thing.

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>>50258974

>>50258956
Nice dude, looking badass, also stuff your opponent for bringing 4x knights, thats a tough fight for tanks

>>50256427
Better than being infantry, but that ain't saying much.

>>50259007
Haha yea im pretty happy with it, the engine is a bit meh but i like the crew compartment

>>50258940
For the Americans or the Germans?

>>50259076
Where are the various computers from?

>>50259114
Particularly for the Americans. The Germans did a bit too many war crimes for it to really count. Felt more like they were invading a low-key Chaos planet.

>>50259146
Yeah but the part where all the German infantry decided to charge a tank seemed pretty imperial guardish. The only thing missing was the order to fix bayonets.

>>50256443

In Fortress of Arrogance you see the Cadian tankers doing maintence on their machine so it's not like they are allowed to do it obviously they can't make unsanctioned modifcations or build one from scratch which is different.

>>50259193
>pretty imperial guard-ish
Honestly, any good ol' fashioned soldiering is going to come off as Imperial Guard-ish. They're the largest fighting force in the galaxy; technically that makes anything they do standard operating procedures.

>>50259134
The radio operator is using the comp fron the rhino interior, the driver is using the comp from the valkyrie and is the model from the sentinel. Basically just a bunch of stuff from my bitz box

>>50259012
It actually worked out pretty well. Killed a Knight turn one with focus fire and Scions melta bombed a second.
>Fucking stomps tho
He killed two of my Russes with them. I was pretty pissed.

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>>50259239
I might do something like that with a Vanquisher I'm putting together.

Thinking about getting Imperial Armor to field an Armoured Battlegroup Army headed by the above Leman Russ Vanquisher.

>>50259278
Nice work, i hate fighting against knights, so tough. Last time i killed all but one knight but then just had 5 infantry models from 3 separate units hiding from it. Pask killed 2 by himself, such a beast he is.

>>50259307
Sounds like a plan, the shells from the baneblade kit are the right size for the leman russ/vanquisher.
The gunner was from the vakyrie door gunner, the driver the sentinel pilot and the radio operator the spare guy from the wyvern kit. My tank commander was from the baneblade kit but the commander from the basilisk would work just as well

>>50257247
And wir alle remember how that was, don't we?

>>50260828
According to my grandpa it was shit followed by a break out of a siberian prison camp with some comrades and walking back home to southern germany again. He and one comrade made it.

>>50256443
You are taught the rites of repair. What you can't do is bodge a job using radically different parts somehow or perform radical field conversions, but again, that depends on where you are and the circumstances of your modification. And this is all dependent on where your regiment is from; if it's from a forge world or something along those lines then there would be a heavy zealotry there while also having a high degree of competence. But if Bumfuck XXV gets a regiment pushed into tanks and sent again to some obscure posting where no one even really knows where it is, they'll likely be a lot more lax.

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>>50257935
Give Epic a try. You haven't REALLY played an Imperial treadhead until you've thrown 20 odd Leman Russes with artillery and infantry support into the maelstrom.

>>50261589
My goal is now to have that many russes in regular 40k.

Would the type of Russ affect how the crew thinks? How would the crew of a Demolisher feel different than the crew of an Eradicator?
Hard mode:what about the crew of a Ragnorak?

Which tank would be comfiest thread? I think probably just standard Russ because unless you're the only tank on the battlefield you won't draw as much fire. You also won't accidentally incinerate yourself.

>>50262536
That's just going to drown in the background noise of personal, regimental, and planetary differences.

>>50259114
In the original script - for both.
Unlike how it ended after execs showing up at the filming site, the original script ended up with Fury destroyed by sudden artillery barrage.
American artillery barrage.

>>50256427
Cramped as fuck, that's how it is.

>>50264089
But then we'd miss out on Shia LaBeouf getting sniped anon.

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>>50256427
Geez, what do you want to know? It's cramped, hot, and makes you thank the Emperor for ear plugs. Well at least my regiment does, nifty little things with integrated speakers so you can actually hear what the hell your gunny and driver are yelling at you too.

Mind, I'm from a pretty well off planet. Some dirt-farmers I know of didn't even have padded seats in their Russ.

Even those guys have it better than the crunchies though. We at least have the metal hide of our rides to shelter us, those guys at best just clamp on to the rear engine deck and hope they don't burn their fingers or get hit by spray shrapnel. We also don't have to deal with the cold much.

I remember one time we were out on some iceball, where we see the guys around us huddle in their little blankets (no fires allowed, could give our position away) and barely adequate foxholes. At the time, I have a spare cup of recaff, and being bored, I popped the hatch and threw it at the ground, loudly yelling this whiskey was not warm enough. The looks on their faces warmed me more than the recaff could.

Totally worth the bollocking I got from the commissar afterwards.

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>>50256427

You could just watch the movie...

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Like this

>>50256427
What wound'nt I give to be that gunner on top, Imagine watching a whole company of Russes laying down the emperors fury from a first person perspective

>>50258872
1/10

This makes me want to get my Armored Task Force out. Super Heavy Company and 2 Leman Russ Companies.

>>50266863
Till that stray bolt round rips your head or arms off. But that's life I suppose. We nut up and drive on, we weary few. Through mud and sand, hot and cold, we carry on.

>>50266057
More anon. This is actually pretty great.

>>50258525
I think there's a Baneblade novel, with some sequels driving other Superheavies.

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>>50264089
Eh? Where do I find more about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVfxxcam0nY

wish i had the money to buy that baneblade novel.

>>50269995
It's pretty decent. It starts with the guy being a Leman Russ commander I believe blowing the head off a Gargant but losing his Russ in the process. But rather than getting executed he gets command of a Baneblade. That's when the real story begins.

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>>50256427
On one of those threads about finding the flaws of some superheavies, I posted that those tanks are so big they behave more like ships than as regular vehicles
>Adept, hull integrity?
>++CONDITION: OPTIMAL++ ++PRAISE THE OMN-
>Excellent. Steersman, set a direct course to the bastion, ramming of obstacles is sanctioned
>Aye sir
>Sponson gunners, acquire primary targets by mass, secondary targets by proximity. Heavy bolters to infantry, Lascannons to vehicles
>Yessir
>Aye m'lord
>Sí señor!
>Jawhol!
>Yes sir
>Yes sir
>Aye captain
>Yes my lord
>Main gunners, concentrate fire forwards
>Aye M'lord
>Uhuh, yeah
>Yessir!
>Open a channel to the enemy HQ, I want them to piss their pants. Better they concentrate their fire on us rather than on the assault brigades
>Sir, do they really piss their pants?
>Of course, just ask the Scions yourself
>C h a n n e l . o p e n
>...

>>50265840

This is... relevant to my interests?

>>50271129
Aight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-DB0z87su0

>>50271090
How many crewmen does that have? A thousand?

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>>50271466
Since I don't have Codex Titanicus 2E and the HH4's Stormhammer is different, I'm basing it on the picture having:
>4 Heavy Bolter sponson gunners
>4 Lascannon sponson gunners
>Two main turret gunners
>Hull mounted Demolisher cannon gunner
>A truckload of servitors as loaders
>Resident Enginseer, maybe with lesser techpriests or servitors as helpers
>Driver
>Vox Operator (a servitor in this case)
>Commander

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>>50256427
Look at this shit

>>50257247
Well, probably not, because the Leman Russ is supposed to be ultra reliable, not a piece of shit like the Panzer, and you're hardly ever up against superior armor.

>>50258956
what was this senario?

>>50271946
>>50257247
I don't quite understand the Panzer comment. Was it a bad tank? Also, Russes have to go against Railguns, Necron weapons, Eldar lances and all manner of nasty stuff, so they're far from invulnerable.
>>50271881
This isn't official...right?

>>50272055
Panzer wasn't a bad tank when it worked, but it was supremely unreliable and, due to overengineering, hard to repair.

>>50272055
It's from the genestealer cult codex....

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>>50272239
FOOOKIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
GW art: officially double-dead

>>50271881
Explain.

>>50272455
GW just copy pasted old artwork from the guard book and drew over it for the genestealer book

>>50272112
You mean the Panther, right?

>>50272112
Panzer, short from Panzerkampfwagen, just means tank in German.
Your statement makes no sense, unless you add number to the word "Panzer", indicating specific model of WW2-era tank.

>>50272570
Holy fuck.

It depends. That time the regiment got deployed to that spacehulk? It was bad to be a tanker.

That agriworld the orks were invading tho? #bellylaugh #Icame #Icamealot

>>50256427
I pretty much have a constant erection.

>>50272570
Or the artist who made the original got lazy and GW was too lazy to notice.

There are a few differences. The flag in the OP has white around the central skull and looks less detailed than the one in the genestealer picture. The sentinel behind the tank (just left of the turret) is more visible and its barrel is almost touching the hatch while in the OP image this barrel does not exist.

Don't know how to explain it. Either OP image is very blurry, GW doctored the original image or the artist added stuff to the "new" image. There's also a cult banner on the far right of the genestealer image.

>>50272055

Necrons and Eldar are also such an extremely rare sight that most people don't know they exist, this is like saying an Supercarrier is vulnerable because some countries might have a hypersonic nuclear torpedo.

>>50274502
I mean on the tabletop. Most combat is human vs human and human vs orks, right?
I mean, orks.
Their antitank is some bombs on a stick
>mfw it actually works in the Baneblade novel
On the eastern front, however, the Tau...

>>50269670
Sure thing.

Something of a rite of passage these days is the mythical booze dispenser. A Russ has a little hatch for loading shells, a little round thing that is barely visible underneath the camo when it is properly maintained. Now a long time ago some enterprising soul started selling this booze from a still squirreled away inside the Iron Will's engine room.

Don't give me that look as far as the engineseer is concerned that is part of the holy machine's internals, and prohibited it's removal. Allegedly the machine spirit gets cranky if attempts are made.

So anyway. We get booze in bottles that look like a shell, and I am sure you see where this is going. We grab the ranking FNG right after they get accepted into the regiment and host a small party over at the tank they are assigned to. A veteran crewman walks up to their tank, slaps the turret and receives a bottle shell out the hatch from a helpful loader who is hiding inside. Then another one goes up to there and repeats the procedure. Now the rookie, who has been paying attention, attempts the same and gets jack.

"Oh damn it must have run out!"

Or if they're a bit of an arsehole:
"Well well well. Not even the machine spirit likes you."

>>50258974
That's awesome anon 10/10.

I'm running a tanker game for my group, loosely based on the Only War ruleset for tanks. We decided to do away with the Leman Russ series being autoloaders, introduced new ammo types and damage is not applied in a more cinematic way, Gaunt's Ghosts style (was it in Honour Guard?). Turns out, being an imperial tanker is about fearing the regimental commissar, facepalming at Krieg charges, unloading a shitload of HE and HESH on infantry-filled builginds and jinking a lot to avoid being bonked by medium tanks/shredded by ATGMs/autopen'd by Vanquishers.

As far as I've been told, lots of fun is being had by all.

>>50275841
damage is applied*

>>50272112
Panzer..what? IV, one of the most reliable tanks around? Or Panther, which by 1944 was far more reliable than the initial deployment in 1943?

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>>50272112

Panzer 4's, from the C on up, could be pen'd by a Sherman's 75 at a thousand meters. Considering the galcis was a flat plate, going right through it brought you to an ammo rack.

Sherman's ate Panzer 4's for breakfast in Africa

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>>50256427
Read pic related. Seriously, it's onf of the best 40k book there is, even though it's so "simple". That's what make it strong actually. No grand scheme or super menace. Just a standard IG fight against orks.
Really happy that the sequel, Shadowsword, is finally coming out.

>>50275841
You have my attention. Care to share the rules?

>>50275875
>from the C on up

How? F2 was the first one with the long 75mm.

>>50275990
You catch me red-handed, there is nothing really formalized or written down aside from a few things being standardly beefed up. Most of how damage is applied is determined by what I deem reasonable at the time. I agree, it's really arbitrary, but it also avoids falling into the unavoidable faults of a fixed system. The whole party roughly knows how a tank works and whatnot (all in the armed forces and /k/ommandos to boot), so the rational, quasi-fixed element of rules is still there.


I have this vaguely freeform-like approach to RPG games where I consider my players the protagonists of an adventure that I shape around them, avoiding killing them when it's not dramatic enough for example, that sort of thing. I treat the whole campaign as a story that constantly evolves and every session as an episode inside a "season", with the basic rules as a guideline. If you are still interested in the stats for various weapons and tanks that I/we reworked, I can put together a PDF file and post it, though you should keep in mind that it is gonna be flawed.

>>50276090

I was referring to the Sherman's 75mm M3

>>50276109
Ah, I read "could pen" instead of "could be pen'd".

>>50276100
You mean to tell me that this episodic approach isn't standard? I thought that's how RP's are supposed to work?

>>50276136
I know a lot of GMs who adhere strictly and only to the rules, with a course of action that is set in stone, so I guess it might not be unusual, but there are more rigid alternatives. The episodic approach is simply one part of the whole "rules as mere guideline" base for my GMing.

>>50264020
In my opinion, crewing a Malcador (not the Infernus) would be pretty comfy. They're ancient and respected, hard as nails (for their size) and there's more legroom than in a Russ.

Most gratifying tank, Shadowsword maybe?
Perform the rites of firing, pull your sun-specs down and watch the fireworks as that enemy titan gets slagged.

>>50276236
Isn't the Infernus the one that has the giant gas tank on It's ass?

>>50277915
A giant modified Churchill Cocodrile, yes. But I think it can switch its flame ammo for AP2 Armourbane acid, turning it into a giant Banewolf and reducing the risk of explosion

>>50279183
>Giant Banewolf
muh boner
Does anyone actually use Banewolves?

>>50279847
>Commonly, Bane Wolf crews are remote, taciturn individuals who do not mix with other Guardsmen. Their vehicles are as likely to see action quelling the uprisings of traitorous human cults as they are against deadly xenos threats, and to deploy the chem cannon against fellow humans, no matter how debased, can be a harrowing experience. It takes a particular kind of nihilist to crew such a short ranged and grotesque terror weapon
I know right. But I don't think somebody uses them.

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>>50258770
>One Basilisk

Report to the Regimental Commissar immediately!

Here have another Basilisk.

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>>50256427
I wonder how would it be like being part of one of the bigger superheavies' crews. Gunners, loaders, command & control staff, attached adepts, attached fireteam squads.
It could work like an Imperial ship on a smaller scale, going about and replacing its crew at a steady rate as they die.

>>50280795
Got the stats for the magma cannon?

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>>50280795
Here have a Baneblade for your troubles.

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>>50281002
60" Primary Weapon 1 S10 AP1 Large Blast Fuck (You)
Quite killy as you can see. I bet that cannon has a dedicated techpriest. And she's a cutie.

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>>50279183
The way Brit tank designers loved having trailes full of flammable shit never ceases to amaze me. From the Valentine flamethrower to the Churchill Crocodile to Centurions towing extra petrol in a trailer, they seem to have a love affair with the design.

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>>50281190
In WW2 after the fall of France, Britain had lots of fuel but not enough metal, so they tried to weaponize their reserves and created the Petroleum Warfare Department, and boy did they went full Salamander on that concept. They made flame mines, tried to light the sea and their Enginseer department made lots of flame vehicles, like the Churchill Crocodile (because Crocodiles are flame creatures, of course. Salamanders! ONE FUCKING JOB, BRITS!)

Necessity is the mother of invention. Fiery inventions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_Warfare_Department
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart%27s_Funnies

>>50271946
>>50272055
I'm talking about how dangerous it is and how it's generally deadly for the crew. I've read autobiographies from German tankers on the eastern front and they all have gruesome imagery. batteries exploding and covering the crew in acid, a shell piercing the haul but not detonating, being burned alive. It didn't have anything to do with actual efficiency.

>>50281190
It ain't like the tank will give much of a fuck about some burning fuel on the ground behind it.

>>50281685
>batteries exploding and covering the crew in acid, a shell piercing the haul but not detonating, being burned alive

And so you complain when they take some of that nasty shit and put it outside of the armoured metal box you've been stuffed into?

>>50275938
Each book focusing on different Baneblade Types...

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>>50281685
>batteries exploding and covering the crew in acid, a shell piercing the haul but not detonating, being burned alive
Doesn't that happen on all tanks? Some munitions cause your own munitions to explode inside the hull. There are many ways to boil alive people inside tanks.

>>50280795
See >>50275938. It goes into plenty of details. I read it, then did a tank campaign in OW as the GM, players and I had the time of our life for a year and a half.

Do you guys think that a Punisher would be a fluffy choice as armour attached to a mechanised recon company?

It will be joining a pair of Conquerors and an Exterminator along side Salamanders and Mechanised Infantry.

>>50281788
I guess I said Germans since I've read it from a German perspective a lot. Also the general violence and reputation of the eastern front.

>>50281807
Yeah but I meant the versions I posted, as in, the ones that carry a complement of infantry. But I'm reading the Baneblade one, so far so good. So damn good.

>>50281868
Infantry will lost definitely not replace tank crews, as they simpy don't have the training, but tank crew can and will take the place of other if losses occur as you will see in the book, be it in heavy or superheavies tank.

>>50281685
As opposed to the britbings who riveted their tanks, creating instant shrapnel even when hit with non-penetrating HE.

>>50281922
Yikes. Tanks are rolling coffins when hit with the right thing. It's way easier to destroy a tank than to make it proof against damage.

>>50282010
>rolling coffins
This.
Hell just by reading through this thread and watching >>50281788 makes me think you probably get a less painful death by being infantry. Although I guess actual recent tanks are really well made. Some time ago in a tank thread on /tg/ there were tank operators talking about very few (none?) Abrahms had been actually destroyed by talibans and whatnots, but mostly disabled and so had to be destroyed so they wouldn't fall in ennemy hands after falling back without it.

>>50282392
This is the sauce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvuwUxaJmlo
There is one dude who comes out running, but I'm not sure if he was outside the tank. I think so, because otherwise he'd be toast. To be fair, tanks are mostly immune to anti infantry measures, that's their whole purpose. But I think IEDs can bust their tracks and achieve a mobility kill.

>>50282392
>Abrams
Ftfy

>>50276100
I could jam with the rules if you're willing to share

>>50256540
>Forbidden tech
>Grox
Top kek

>>50262470
Try paper hammer?

>>50267456
You have 20 russes?

>>50266057
>Mocking the light roles for not having a BV
You're a prick. I hope your tracks fall to pieces faster than a one-pip on the net.

Check this movie out, it'll give you a good idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DKMckzzyE4

>>50283316
But where's the fun/crippling depression in that?

>>50284733
Having many, many armoured vehicles? Enough to field a full regiment of leman russes?

>>50285181
So, origami? Papekura?

In a tank the commander is also the navigator and radio man? Or how many people fit inside a Russ with 3 Heavy Bolters?

“The volcano cannon is firing. The storm bolter is also firing, but appears to be attempting anti-aircraft fire. The lascannons are jammed. I am saying, “Driver advance” on the A set, but the driver- who can’t hear me- is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see three Warhounds, just fifty yards distant, someone hands me a flask of amasec.” Lt Giles, Commander of the Shadowsword Emperor's Wrath, on the Battle of Hive Volkar.

>>50285196
Eli pataroch (I think that's spelled right) does detailed templates of many 40k vehicles, but you can find many different plans that are easier to build. Just remember to add fruit to whatever you build.

>>50285303
Fruit?

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>>50285236
>how many people fit inside a Russ with 3 Heavy Bolters?

5-6

>>50261574
>walking back home to southern germany
>From Siberia.
Jesus Christ anon. You grandpa sounds like he could chew up rebar and spit out nails.

>>50274002
Thank God, you saved us.


You can go now.

>>50285525
Lemon Russ

>>50286587
I'll add green lemons to them :^)

>>50285525
Stowage, blankets etc. Helps make your tank appear less shit.

>>50286684
stick a straw in one and there you go anon you got a turret with battle/vanquisher cannon.

>>50285626

Those on and off-road speeds...

How the fuck as a lord commander am I suppose to create a breakthrough with those speeds?

Fucking no wonder eldar and tau run fucking circles around us.

>>50287412
Anon, I'm sleepy, you shouldn't make me laugh so hard

>>50285626
Bongs. Unless they're in the military and handle weapons most dont even know how a gun, let alone a tank works.

>>50287456
I think you mean 'exploit' a breakthrough lord-commander-anon-sir. A demolisher is an excellent tank for creating the breakthrough, but the imperium relies on swifter vehicles to exploit them, sir.

>>50287885

Dammit advisor anon I'm in command here! Do you wish undermine me on front of my own men? I can have you shot!

>>50287956
Sorry lord-commander-anon-sir, it won't happen again sir.

>>50288078

>my whole sentence being shit
>my phone posting at a late hour making me look stupid

Take command anon. I'm going to fucking bed.

Fuckin' hot, that's what 's like. Bad enough if you're in a Russ, but in a Salamander? Oof. Figure the cogboys'd put a decent cooling system on that flaming deathtrap, but no, 's tech 'eresy or something. Now, if you can get yourself posted to a Baneblade, that's not so bad. 's long as you don't mind being the biggest fire magnet this side of Terra, that is.

>>50256427
>don't go hittin' me with them negative waves!

>>50282865
Alright, I whipped together a PDF with the stuff I'm using regularly. Keep in mind that this is very simple, edited to the bare minimum (not so fancy-looking, just a plain Word file) and most importantly that it's a Work in Progress. Lots of things aren't in there because I haven't had the time/need/creativity to put it in yet.

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>>50288825
PDF file which I promptly forgot to attach. Silly me.

>>50288854
coolio, thank you for the work my dude! i'm giving it a look

>>50289009
I'm glad, let me know what you think

>>50281863
No one had particularly survivable tanks in WW2, and even today being in a tank that suffers a penetrating hit leaves you with a lot of horrible ways to die.

In WW2, it was either spalling shredding the crew, a straight up penetrating hit sending a massive chunk of metal careening around the crew compartment, or the engine/ammo brewing up and burning everyone to death. Nowadays we can add in a jet of molten metal from a HEAT round/ATGM, or maybe just turning your brain to mush from a VBIED going off outside.

>>50283757
lol u mad crunchy?

More seriously if this is enough to get your jimmies rustled then you should see our hell week.

>>50289066
Still beats being infantry.

>>50256427
How do the Imperial Guard deploy Leman Russ(es?) on the field? Can something like a Sky Talon just drop them close to the engagement or what?
What are the logistics of the spaceship-ground travel (and inversely)

>>50290788
They use big ol' shuttles and dropships in the Ciaphas Cain books, big enough to carry tanks. There's a bit in one of them where a marauding Chaos crew lands a captured Leman Russ near the Valhallans' base and surprises Cain & co.

>>50281571
>Setting aflame miles of ocean.
I'm using this in my next Only War scenario. It sounds stupid enought to be a Tactica Imperialis-approved strategy.

>>50291048
>stupid

You try landing on a beach when the water is on fire.

>>50282392

I've seen discussion of the Abrams on /k/ saying the same thing. Apparently it has ammo storage designed with sliding doors and panels on the top, so if a round did penetrate and detonate the ammo rack, the panels would "blow out" and the energy of the explosion would be directed upward, away from the crew.

No such safety feature exists in >>50281788, but I've seen that video in its entirely. The tank was hit by an RPG-29, and that's bad news even for an Abrams.

>>50275841
Damn that sounds like a good game. I miss playing some solid Only War. No bullshit, just trying to scrounge and hide better gear, and trying to set up good combats.

>>50291350
The problem is many Soviet tank designs have the rounds in a carousel underneath the turret. So if they go off everyone in the turret is dead or the whole thing will fly off.

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>>50291350
>>50292024
Countermeasures can only protect so much

>>50285626
So, four gunners and a driver, and use autoloaders. I'm assuming either the driver or the turret gunner is also the commander? And the Machine Spirit is the radio operator?
>>50264089
I want to know more...

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>>50287456
Russ is more of an infantry tank. Also, that is the Demolisher variant, which is the slowest.

>>50287802
Because as we know, all Muhrican media portrays military stuff with 100% accuracy, right?

>>50292024
Wasn't it the Gulf War where American tank crews had widespread reports of Iraqi T-series tanks popping their turrets everywhere?

>>50292319
Well isn't the Conqueror an exception to this? I'm pretty sure it's still around in one of the FW Krieg books as a fast attack choice.

>>50292366
Funny thing is that, according to FW books, the Exterminator is as fast, if not faster than the Conqueror, yet the Exterminator is Heavy while the Conqueror is not.

>>50292366
The conqueror is completely different as far as weight class is concerned, its got a small blast with autocannon strength instead of any kind of serious weaponry, the equivalent of a BT-7 instead of a T1. More of a scout tank than a MBT

>>50259215
>technically that makes anything they do standard operating procedures.

Okay Sarge, whatever you say.

>>50292404
I thought It was just a small blast battle cannon?

>>50293226
It is. Used to be S7 AP3. I think it was S8 AP4 as well at some point. But latest rules I can find put it at 48" S8 AP3 Heavy 1, Blast.

>>50293260
>>50292404
>>50292389
What would be some good tactics to use with the Conqueror? It doesn't say much on the Tactica on 1d4chan about it.

>>50285626
I do hate how inconsistent the Russ crew loadout is. In Gunheads, the turret has a commander, loader, and gunner, while the driver also operates the hull weapon.

>>50281190
Would you rather have all that fuel inside the tank ready to explode if hit?

>>50293333
Use it as a cavalry tank? Dash up the field with infantry firing on the move?

In reality don't use it - it costs the same as an LRBT

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>>50293337
There's a shit ton on Forge worlds and industrialized worlds in the galaxy making these. I wouldn't expect for the design to be homogenized across the whole of the galaxy. There's some variations to be expected.

>>50281190
Ok, military genius, you try and fit all that fuel inside of the tank and do it safely.

Crocodile tanks kept their main gun (unlike, say, Flammpanzers and Soviet T-26 based tanks, which replaced the main gun with a flamethrower), which meant all that ammo was also taking up the space inside. You're also storing massive amounts of flammable liquid inside the crew compartment. I'm sure the crew will just live it when a shock causes the tanks to leak or ignite. I'd rather have them blow up the trailer and lose the flamer, than get burned alive. You still have your main gun and coaxial machine gun.

>>50293581
>wouldn't expect STANDARD TEMPLATE construction to be homogenized

>>50293613
They've had thousand of years for designs to be lost/corrupted/changed to suit a specific role anon so it isn't surprising.

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>>50293613
>thinking that STCs are immune to be tweaked here and there by the myriad of planets throughout the Imperium.

True, that would probably be considered hersey to mess around with STC in most places, but it still happens. Why do you think there are Mars-Alpha Pattern Warlord Battle Titans and Proximus Pattern ones. Along with Mars Pattern Leman Russ and Ryza Pattern ones too. Shit just changes over time.

>>50293781
What this guy said basically.

>>50293599
I think what anon meant that having the gas tank on a trailer would limit manuverability and make it easier to hit the tank.
>ie: Trailer gets stuck on something and that moment of immobility means you get shelled and killed

>>50294316
Those things aren't made for cruising across the countryside. They got, even with such large tanks, very limited amounts of fuel and are used primarily for known targets. Not for chasing targets of opportunity. Like there's a bunker over there, attach the trailer and go and flame it. It is more of an engineering vehicle than a general purpose combat vehicle.

I wish GW would bring back epic properly, I love the idea of a full IG armoured force but playing that in 40k is stupid.

Also are any of the FW versions of the Russes worth using over the IG Codex versions?

>>50293337
It could be something like that. Doesn't the mexican driver in Fury also operate a machinegun?

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>>50294353
>>50293599
This. Flame tanks were specialist vehicles, and I particularly like the Crocodile because the flamer is actually a secondary weapon - they aren't forgetting they're still a tank.

>>50289472
I'm a medic, fuck light role I'm staying in my tent. But I still think it's mean-spirited to entertain the notion of mocking the light roles, do the right thing on a difficult day.

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>>50294665
Like this?

Can anyone find a torrent of the baneblade book? The ones I found have no seeders.

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>>50295678
More like this. A hull mounted Heavy Flamer, rather than a turret mounted one
>>50295778
It's in /HHG/'s OP. But it's pretty deep, inside a pastebin, inside a MEGA. Ya want it or not?

>>50295809
Conqueror/Exterminator might be actually pretty good if you set it up like that. Because they can still fire their main weapon but also send some naplam into your assorted traitors,xenos and, Guardsmen

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>>50295873
Eradicator with the cannon modeled as a big flamer on the hull mount and a single barrel lascannon on the turret. Had such an idea at one point. To go with my M3 Lee style demolishers with hull mounted demolisher cannons and turret lascannons.

Sucks that there's no way of making a M4 Calliope style Russ. Maybe if Havoc Launchers were available to Guard.

>>50295809
Hunting it now. There's a few MEGA links, with loads of folders each. Any idea what it's under?

The Emperor Protects.

>>50295989
Found it. Faith was my guide.

>>50295873
I just looked up the Leman Russ Conqueror in IA-II. Why would anyone take it instead of a regular Leman Russ? They cost the same but the regular Battle has 8Str Ap3 Large Blast Ordnance 72", while the Conqueror has S7 AP4 Small blast 48".
Wtf?
>>50295989
Here
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!1xIWjDLR

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>>50296046
The Emperor protects

>>50271731
>>50271466
If my book knowledge serves me right its
1 Driver
1st Gunner (main gun)
2nd Gunner (Demolisher)
3rd Gunner (Sponsons)
1st Loader
2nd Loader
Commander
Vox and sensor ops (helps with sponsons as needed)
Tech Priest

>>50285626
350mm effective armor. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
yeah, yeah, it's super spess metal and thats the physical thickness, sure, whatever you say.

>>50297423
Spess metal, combination /k/ ignore the bit about "conventional steel" :^)

>>50295537
It's not as if they didn't get their licks in too mate. Found out the hard way you should only keep stuff you can miss in the bustle racks when they are around (to the asshole who stole my socks I want the knitted ones back, they were a present from my nan you prick).

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Posting pics of my tanks. Thought you lads might enjoy.

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Some Kasrkins I painted too. Just need to get the flesh on the sergeant.

>>50285283
Change that to
>the Las cannon batteries are fried
And 10/10

>>50298247
No. He's a Salamander washout. Or are Nocturnian people jet black too?

>>50298797

I've been building a Nocturne Auxilia force for my 30k Salamanders using modified Elysians.

God dammit anon. Here I was sure that I was going to go with Dark Angels, all shiny. Between this thread and Metal Slug being on sale the siren call of grinding treads is loud indeed.

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>>50298913
>METAL SLOOG
Which one is the latest one, anon? What's the story this time? I kinda drifted away after the Ptolemaic.

Anons, could you recommend me some nice tank games?

>>50298913
Do it. IG tank armies are amazing. Just have infantry there to intercept charges/rounds that might hit your tanks.

>>50298964
Played the anthology which goes up to 6, which is about a second alien race which eats the original guys for breakfast or something. As for tank games, I sadly know next to none.

>>50298966
I'm just so torn from all the cool shit to pick from. I like medieval and cyberpunk stuff; never been a WW2 buff or anything like that. Marines seem cool but overplayed. I like the Iron Hands but hate working with resin. Skitarii are cool but no transports. I'm so trapped. I just don't know. Oh god help me.

>>50299057
Well you have a lot of different play styles as Guard. You could go WW1 and just spam waves of men.

>>50256427
I am currently going throught the Core Rulebook of Only War and I'm confused. The vanilla leman Russ canon have a 12-ammo CLIP that reloads in 3 full actions.
How can it have a clip? And how can the loader load 12 shells in like, what, 6 to 10 fucking seconds?

>>50279847
>Really

I've been trying to use them in my army for that sweet, sweet 2+ poison, but I've gotten super awful Weapon Destroyed results on Turn 1/2 every time.

>>50299398
He's a god.

>>50299574
Then he shall be shot on the spot. Unless he is the Emperor Himself, being a god is heresy.

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>>50299616
>>50299574
It's the machine spirit! It shivers with barely contained zeal, eager to destroy the enemies of the Emperor! :)

>>50299616
He is an artificial God-construct assembled by the custodes after the Heresy. After a group of 3,000,000,000,000,000,000... farmers rebelled against the Manperor of Mankind.

Savlar Chemdog tankers are best tankers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAXDWjXsvzw

>>50275863
No anon. the ausf g wasn't real.
Only the ausf A.

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ToV style baneblade missions when Relic?

>>50299897
It's too bad that Steel Battalion was an unplayable game. So promising! It was WW2 all over again...WITH MECHS.

>>50293337
Realistically they would need a 5th member to control the gun.

>>50294621
No he doesnt, in fury they have 5.
Brad pitt:commander
Shia lebouf: gunner
Dude from walking dead: loader
Dude from shooter: driver
Random young actor: machine gunner

>>50299398
15 seconds. A round is 5 seconds.

>>50300031
Are there any other novels that describe Leman Russ crew configuration? I think at the beginning of Baneblade they give a description.

>>50300359
That's still awfully short for such a task. I mean, we are talking about 120mm shells, at a rate of almost 1/sec.
Is there any info on the internal working of this fuckery or is it just, again, GW writers fucking something up by lack of research/imagination/talent?

>>50301761
Autoloaders?

>>50299398
>How can it have a clip?

See >>50285626

>how can the loader load 12 shells in like, what, 6 to 10 fucking seconds

See >>50285626

>>50301761
>GW writers
>FFG

Where's your no-gunz Bongs argument when FFG is based in the US?

>>50301761
Sounds like the rounds come pre-packaged in cartridges. He isn't loading them one by one, he just puts in a fresh clip like a super sized mosin nagant?

>>50301331
Depends on how much tech is inaide the russ. Standard would be 5 but could range from 3 to 7

>>50302245
Except that wouldnt work because there is no turret space at all

>>50301761
Maybe the loaders are trained from birth just how to load anon. Like Titan Princeps.

>>50256540
>Archeotech
>Void ships
>Warp drives
>Teleporters

Okay I get that the idea is that IOM is fucked and has to collapse eventually, but that's just stupid. Can't the humies have ANYTHING going for them?

>>50304263
They do. They're called tanks and they're pretty good anon. You should probably invest in some.

Has anyone on here gotten any luck with the Demolisher? It always ends up being lack luster to me. Hell even my Battle Tank has been more effective.

>>50304145
If it was up to me the loaders would be servitors
>>50304355
You'd think the might of the Imperial tonks would be enough to crush Tau in Mont'Ka, but it wasn't :/

>>50304766
Because weaboo space magic. And only because that.

>>50304656
How are you currently running it / what are you using it to fight? What is it being destroyed by ?

>>50261574

ha, dude, no way
My grandfather was dutch and forced to work for the germans as a translater in Cottbus, Russians came, tought he was a German soldier (silly russians didn't hear the difference between dutch and german), deported him to Siberia and after 6 months finally released.

Was brought by train to Moskau and told the general direction of where holland was, took him 1,5 years to walk back.

Of course presumed dead by family

>>50308370
It's been stomped,D 'd,shot in the ass by a Flying hive dick. And I run a 50 man blobs a Vanq,Executioner and Battletank. Actually bought a second Demolisher to squadron them but it hasn't seen action yet.

>>50258770
you lack artillery. severely

>>50310789
What does he need? Ballisks or Wyverns?

>>50257283
I have a picture for this....

>>50304263
Do people not understand what "Grey Area" means? It means it may or may not be Archeotech, depending on who in the Priesthood you ask and what forge world they're from.

>>50313471
Post plz

>>50312276
Both? And more Leman Russes

>>50310789
Nah not really arty doesnt do much in 40k because the ranges are too close. Its just like having an av 12 russ instead.
I'd rather have a wall of AV14. I have another wyvern as well anyway.

In apoc badilisks are king! Manticores are too expensive now too

>>50316383
Why does every Guard army I see always seem to have a Manticore then?

What is your favourite type of Russ?

>>50319795
Visually: battle tank with HB sponsons
Tabletop: exterminator with multimelta

Demolisher with three heavy flamers are nice too.

>>50256540
Nice fanfiction.

>>50296051
In the past you couldn't move and shoot Large Blast Ordnance. So the Conqueror would have superior firepower when moving. I don't think it anybody ever actually used one. It had zero use unless you were playing 40K wacky races or something.

>>50297423
Not only is 40K made by Bongs, but their idea of high technology is cold war at best, and WW1 at worse. Probably the reason why Lasguns were semi-auto for the longest time, because fuck this newfangled 5.56mm. Also the idea that 40K was ever meant to be crazy levels of hypertough is just memes by crazy fanboys.

>>50320619
>Cold War at best

Because its a setting made in the Cold War.

slavs are real whites
swedes are cucks lmao

>>50321396
>>>/pol/ is that way.
Here is, hopefully, your only (you).

Give me chimeras, hellhounds, and basilisks and I will win you a war.


Give me a leman russ, and I'll show you how metas ruin friendships.

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>>50319795
K.O. in the first round.

>>50304766
The whole might of the imperial army was not enough against the pure sueness of the Tau.

>>50322490
>Russ
>strongest
1/10 made roll eyes.

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>>50322490

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>>50322490
>lion' el faggot

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>>50321630
"Rapide"

Haha my ass

Do you guys name your tanks?

Looking for inspiration to name mine

>>50325946
Ceaseless Discharge

>>50325946
>Master Blaster
>Fatman
>Big Beatiful Wallace
>Bohica
>Once more

>>50321630
Laugh as you might, but that tank at the start of the video managed to kill 50 panzers in one battle without dying.

>>50325946
Prosthetic Conscience

>>50319794
Probably a holdover from the last book when they were cheaper. Guard are a middle tier codex anyway so it doesnt matter too much

>>50325946
Godhammer
Ironsides
Big Kev
Iron Fist

>>50325946
My Vanquisher is the Grey Lady

>>50326207
A Char, right?

Those were pretty good for their time and the Germans had a lot of "Hot Garbage" in terms of their early model Panzers, like the 1 and 2. Those things were kind of dogshit. I mean, it's what you would expect given the interwar neutering of the German armed forces, but on a strategic and theater level they were used competently, whereas the better French armor was squandered.

>>50258974
Pretty fucking neto anon.

>>50325946
Death Refined
Bright Burner
Glory Incarnate
Daemon's Bane
The Dradian Longshot
Decisive Kill
Echoed Roar
Nightmare of Treason

>>50327585
>A Char, right?

A decently safe bet, with about half the French's tanks being called char something.

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This thread makes me sad.

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>>50290788
with crap like this.

>>50327585
The one they do a closeup on is a Char 1B.

>>50328731
They're the thing thats basically what the regular malcador chassis is based on, just with 40k's dumbass oversived barrels. Is that a hull howitzer?

>>50327629
Cheers dude i think so too

>>50327828
Why though?

>>50329146
>Why though?
The fact you have to ask makes me weep.

/tg/ has failed the Old Man.

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What is it like to be a hammerhead pilot?

>>50329220
I thought it was a pretty good thread. What am i missing?

>>50330215
Lame cause you'd be a monkey fish frog man

>>50258940
I love how the last stand scene triggered the wehraboos

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You're leading your shitty insurrection on some agri world when you find out thus motherfucker is your opponent.

What do?

>>50331567
I presume whatever Montgomery did.

>>50330215
Pretty gay.

>>50331022
OP here I'm glad you enjoyed it.
And checked.

>>50331567
wait for him to string out a pointless advance then fuck him up when his fuel runs out.

>>50302055
>Where's your no-gunz Bongs argument when FFG is based in the US?
Unlike 40k tabletop, the rpg needs to follow the mechanical precedent and math in order to actually work.
Realism does not serve the game's math, and is discarded when it makes the game worse, rather than better.
Would you like to be playing a game where your entire party can get fried in your first engagement literally because, since a tank can be downed in a single lucky hit, that is modeled in the game? It doesn't work, so it's not followed.

>>50325946
I have names and little definitions or translations for come of them
Circus Cannon
Smokestack
Akaname - japanese, means filth licker
Hildisvíni - Battle swine in Norse
Almasty - russian for Wildman
gwailo - cantonese for white devil
Zyklop - german for cyclops
Hummel - bear
mammut - mammoth
Iron fist
Steel coffin
Lucky
Big Rab
Pacifier
Emperors taxis (sprayed on the side of a chimera)

>>50331567
karate chop throat

>>50332019
>tabletop wargaming doesn't need to follow any math or mechanics
>RPG's do
>thus it's ok for FFG to make outrageous physics but for GW

wew lad

>>50325946
Song names. I've found plenty of nice names by just browsing song names.

>>50332945
I've randomly selected 10 song names
r8 their tank potential please
>Bluette
>Well
>Bad Houses
>Wieloryb
>Our Window
>Botanical Dimensions
>Cables
>Maori Blues
>Acknowledgement
>Tendency

>>50332945
>blood and thunder
>motherpuncher
>all your sins
>the ghoul
>relentless
>minotaur
>hellbound
>hand of doom
>divine blasphemer
>relentless threat

you may be on to something there

>>50332945
>Blank Frank
>Speedball
>Snagglepuss
>Jupiter
>Candy Gun
>The Admiral
>Ergot
>Milkman
>Marmoset
>The Fool
>China Pig

>>50333068
>>50333239
>>50333278
>Bad Houses

Maybe make it singular.

>Maori Blues
>Motherpuncher
>The Ghoul
>Relentless
>Minotaur
>Hand of Doom
>Divine Blasphemer
>Relentless Threat
>Blank Frank
>Speedball
>Snagglepuss
>Jupiter
>Candy Gun
>The Admiral
>The Fool

I can see them working.

>China Pig

Depends on the setting, don't think people in 40k know about China.