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Pathfinder General /pfg/

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

How villainous are your villains?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Broken Shackles Playtest: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/59701/broken-shackles-test-play
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#
Avowed Playtest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg

Old thread: >>50247581
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So, is there any information on large extraplanar cities, like Dis? What the populations are, major features, etc.

Come on guys, pls.
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>>50255111
But back then Lisa Stevens hired MMO developer Ryan Dancey to develop the Pathfinder MMO, in spite of Dancey's horrible track record with games. This was a purely personal move because they're old friends. It's one of many bad decisions that basically led to the state Paizo is now in and why I left.

Pathfinder Online was developed by the independently owned (but Paizo-backed) company Goblinworks, and Paizo invested a VERY substantial sum of money in the company. Way too much.

So as a result of this investment, there were no bonuses allotted to salaried employees that year. I wouldn't be surprise if they're still denying everyone their bonuses.

Goblinworks failed to deliver the promised product and, in spite of months of us trying to warn upper management that Pathfinder Online was fucked, the plug wasn't pulled on Goblinworks until the 11th fucking hour, way past the point of being able to salvage the company. By this point Paizo pumped so much money into Goblinworks that they were entering financial dire straits. The Goblinworks folks tried but Paizo just gave the fuck up, which I can't blame them for. It's way too little too late.

Paizo became so short on finances that they were unable to maintain the development of the VTT software or essential upgrades to their proprietary forum/store back-end.

I heard that since my departure Paizo's started to intentionally delay payment of contractors (artists and freelance writers) in order to juggle financial burdens from month to month in a pretty blatant breach of contract.
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>>50255132
Nah man I've heard some of the last she shit is thousands of dollars per contractor. Some past-due payments wouldn't even be delivered if the contractor "didn't notice" and as a result some payments were out more than a year because folks didn't notice they were getting fucked.

Oh and get this. Following a change in the way salaried employees hours are tracked in Washington State, with regards to overtime hours, Paizo cut salaried employees hours down and assigned them additional contracted "freelance" work to make up the dividend. Paizo employees often work 12 hour days (or more), for an average of $35,000 annually with few benefits. And that's on the high end of salary.


Not counting Erik, Lisa and Vic


Pathfinder product lines are a constant juggling of resources. This is what culminated in the decision to develop the 2nd Edition of the Pathfinder RPG I mentioned before

Pathfinder v2 (or the Revised Edition of the Pathfinder RPG) development started in-house a while back and substantial resources are allocated from other departments (normally handling campaign setting, player companion, and other product lines.)

Increased financial burdens meant that no additional staff could be hired, obviously, meaning salaried employees were effectively working double shift to meet project deadlines. It's almost like in other games companies isn't it?

After I left Paizo it was pretty clear their diminished revenue lead to an increased reliance on licensed products (comics, novels, audiobooks, teleplays, etc). Starfinder RPG looks and sounds like a pretty blatant marketing scheme for licensing. I'd bet Pathfinder 2 either became Starfinder or Starfinder is a stealth beta for what they were working on with PF2.

There's so many other glaring problems I could mention like the GenCon industry insider fiasco which blew me away when I heard a it it. But, frankly, I'm tired of it. "
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>>50255132
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>>50255111
Not very, I like to have the BBEG's generals be the more sympathetic ones and the ones to have debates over ideals compared to the BBEG himself.
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>>50255132
stop reporting this.

>>50255145
stop reporting this.
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>>50255132
>>50255145
For fuck's sake dude, cut it out with the bullshit copypasta. We've seen it before and we don't care.
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>>50255186
reposting*

stupid fucking phone.
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>>50255128
>So, is there any information on large extraplanar cities, like Dis? What the populations are, major features, etc.

There were extraplanar cities listed in that book about the Elements.
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Is the Villain's Codex out?
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>>50255031

If anything, he should've been Misandrist, because it was his Brother who he thought was a feckless fool, and he Himself was the first traitor.

Unless, he was actually a chick at the time, then became a FtM in his grief after killing his brother and decided to blame his feminine energy for making her kill her bro.

That would also explain the whole Wily Linguist thing
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>>50255132
>>50255145
We literally do not care. Everyone knows PF Online has been dead on ass for YEARS now.
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>>50255242
>his feminine energy for making her kill her bro.
And Lo. Asmodeus became the god of PMS until Iomadae took the reigns.
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>>50255263
>until Iomadae took the reigns.

NOTHING SUGGESTS IOMEDAE IS A MOODY STRUMPET, SHE'S JUST A DUTIFUL PALADIN OF PALADINING THAT IS TRYING TO FILL BOOTS MANY TIMES HER USUAL SIZE.
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Man, the only bad part about the Ectoplasmatist is the spiritualist's sub-par touch spell list.
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>>50255276
>MOODY STRUMPET,
But she does have Moody Trumpets
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>>50255276

Thats a trumpeting.jpg
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>>50255276
I wonder who could be behind this post...
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>>50255242
At the time there wasn't really a male and female difference. We associate Asmodeus with being masculine, but he existed before the concept of masculine and feminine was a thing.
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>>50255299

The trumpets only come out if you're being a whiny little baby :^)
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>>50255263
May man, you don't get it.
Ammo isnt God of Shark Week
He's the God of Reverse Traps
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>>50255311
That sounds exactly what a moody trumpet strumpet would say
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>>50255332
You see, I thought that but decided not to go there.
Pray the shitposters don't notice this.
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>>50255345

Oooh you're getting me angry, Iomedae did NOTHING WRONG, if your party does what she WANTS you to do than the trumpets don't even happen!

TRUMPETS ARE A FAIL-STATE, A FAIL-STATE!
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>>50255276
TRUMPET STRUMPET
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>>50255365
>TRUMPETS ARE A FAIL-STATE, A FAIL-STATE!
Oh, I get it now. She's not a moody trumpet strumpet
She's the David Cage of Deities
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>>50252694
I just realized how fucking wrong are long jump and high jump are at high speed.

At 1800 kmph your long jump is 280 meters (assuming you roll a 10) according to the manual, at starting velocity of nearly mach 2 and 45ยบ inclination you only travel a distance of 280 meters?
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>>50255276
There are worse ways to doot.

Pic isn't Skeltal because his is the best and highest form of dooting.

Also how do I Lucio? Is there a Bard archetype that also does healing and gofast?
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>you will never duo app with someone where you each use bard on one half of a gestalt.

What would you want in a duo app /pfg/?
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>>50255382

>The Acts of Iomedae is actually the Sadness Saga
>She made a scrapbook of Aroden to show him how much she wanted to be /his girl/
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>>50255111
>How villainous are your villains?
Ranges based upon the nature of their evil.

For example of a more extreme villain,

Aasimar Cleric (Hidden Priest) of Folca

He pretended to be a priest of Sarenrae, and worked heavily with child protective services/orphanages. Often arranging for adoptions or guardians/caregivers. This has lead to some fucked up things, like children housed with people simply to sate those individuals desires, or smuggled into minimum security prison as a reward for certain valuable inmates. At one point he even had PCs' working for him doing odd jobs like transporting a child to their new "loving" loving family. And when the children's use was over they were discarded, often to asylums or the slums. Some even killed.

His inspiration came from the various characters of Jeffrey Epstein, Jimmy Saville, Mark Dutroux, and the various incidents of trafficking in Boystown, Franklin Scandal, Ponchatoula etc.


Other villains have included contract killers, crimelords/drug kingpins, petty thieves, reflective cannibals, angels of death/angels of mercy, visionaries/mission oriented, etc.

It all kinda depends on the environment you're interjecting the villain into, what kind of feel you want to go with and how you feel the players can handle the content.
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>>50255403
>What would you want in a duo app /pfg/?

Well I mean, I'm totally up for duo apping for that RotJR campaign, I just need to see what people expect out of the connection.
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>>50255440
probably lewdness
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>>50255403
Someone who loves lewd butt stuff as a cute petite girl
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So I'm playing a Groetus Warpriest. Thinking of playing them as something in the vein of a PF take on a doomsday prepper - sound about right?
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>>50255457

Groetus worshipers are almost uniformly insane, their schtick was to be the Lovecrafting "touched by madness" types before the Elder Gods were slapped on the setting.
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>>50255403
Well, that depends on who I end up building.

For the Dhampir Tyrant, I'd need a moral anchor to keep him from doing anything TOO unholy.

For the Rahadoumi Cavalier, probably someone to keep him from saying anything too blasphemous.

I have yet to figure out what racial options involve Giant heritage, but a big Giant-blooded dope would need someone with some realm smarts and enough moral fibre to not exploit them.
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>>50255456
Do you want a petite girl whose into butt stuff or is that you?
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>>50255468
>Dhampir Tyrant
What is this?
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>>50255453

Well that's a problem, because my character isn't exactly lewd.
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I've had it with these motherfucking dragons!
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>>50255471
the former
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>You'll never play a cyberpunk campaign as D&D characters
Man I just want to sling spells on motorcycles.
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>>50255396
The Life Budding In Salted Earth Masterpiece can give people Fast Healing.

And while it isn't a continuous thing, the Triple Time Masterpiece lets you spend a minute and one round of bardic performance to boost an ally's speed by 10ft for an hour.
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>>50255482
A Dhampir Tyrant Antipaladin built to emulate an Unholy-spec Death Knight as much as possible, right down to claiming he does what the living cannot.
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>>50255495
...what's going on in the bottom part of that picture?
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>>50255512

Butt stuff with a bad dragon dong.
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What disciplines are good for a natural attack initiator?

I've already got Broken Blade and Fool's Errand, but I need something to fill my third slot.
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>>50255497

You should google Shadowrun
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>>50255488
What is your character? Mine isn't really that lewd either.
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>>50255495
Hey! That's my mother you fucker!
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>>50255496
If it's for the RotJR game, you're out of luck. Everyone is either an amazon or a bishie.

Side note: I can't be the only who reads RotJR as Return of the Jedi.
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>>50255519
Ain't no one who plays that around here.
>>50255518
Chimera Soul
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Good god, what the hell is this?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/discoveries/paizo---alchemist-discoveries/glimmering-infusion-sp

Apparently alchemists can get spontaneous glitterdust with scaling DC and area? what the fuck?
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>>50255534
petite is dead in golarion, only amazons and bishies.
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>>50255534
not for RotJR, just in a general duo app sense
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>>50255536
Of course dummy, they're all over at >>50254617

What are you doing in /pfg/
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>>50255536
>Chimera Soul
Thanks anon. Good call.
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>>50255530
>What is your character?

A retired swordlord living in Sandpoint who discovered the stroke of a paintbrush isn't too different from the stroke of a sword!
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>>50255240
>http://paizo.com/products/btpy9oo7?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Villain-Codex

The PDF is available tomorrow.

If its anything like the NPC Codex, there's only going to be core classes.
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>>50255391
If my math isn't wrong, a 70 kg human moving at 500 m/s (1800 kmph) should travel a distance of 25.5 km with an initial angle of 45ยบ
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>>50255538
I don't know exactly what it was but our DM won't allow artificers because they can make a bomb that throws out 3 spells at once or something.
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>>50255538
It's not great. Glitterdust as cast by a level 3 wizard covers a 16 square area over a hundred feet away. Glitterdust as cast by a level 16 Alchemist covers a 6 square area adjacent to the Alchemist, with a DC 4 higher.

It's literally pocketsand though.
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>>50255545
>>50255549
Is 2hu still in that game?
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>>50255594
no
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>>50255594

No, he left weeks ago.
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>>50255570
Thanks brah.

>there's only going to be core classes.
Fuck...why must you do this, Paizo?
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>>50255591
Area doesn't matter as much as the DC here, since you'll likely be casting it on one or two targets tops. But glitterdust is probably the single most powerful level 2 spell in the game and this gives a player the ability to cast it spontaneous with a DC increase. Imagine this on a vivisectionist, if nothing else.
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>getting worried over the RotJR game and it's applications won't even open for another month or so.
I wish I wasn't so shit at writing, lads.
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>>50255569
Man, that's gonna be tough to work into mine since I drastically changed shit around.
>>50255594
Literally no one is in the game at the moment. It's a mailing list.
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>>50255630
why, we're all shit here

I'm getting kinda hype for the e8 mercs game that one guy wanted to make
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>>50255616
Hopefully they do advance their mindset and bring their other supplements to bear and good use in the Villain's Codex.
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>>50255396
Oh also?

It's not in his actual abilities in-game, but...

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/bardic-masterpieces/masterpieces/battle-song-of-the-people-s-revolt-percussion-wind

He needs this.
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>>50255630
Don't sweat it. Like at all. No one is expecting Hemingway or Tolkien out of you.

You could always wait and just ask what the GM is looking for in applicants.
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>>50255630

It's all about practice, anon!

Just kidding, it's theft! Stealing! Plagiarism! Read character applications you like and start stealing the shit that sounds good. That's the sign of a good writer, take phrases or writing styles and ROLL WITH IT.

>>50255632
>Man, that's gonna be tough to work into mine since I drastically changed shit around.

What's your character?
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Man, looking at the Masterpieces just makes me think that this is what bardic abilities shoulda been.

Rather than just 'at X level, you get Y performance', it shoulda been you get to pick from a list every other level or something. So not every bard has the same damn things unless they swap them out via archetypes.
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Has paizo released anything for sorcs since the bloodline mutations?
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>>50255644
>>50255664
>>50255671
I know, it's just a bit frustrating knowing there only pain lies down this road to Hell we are walking.
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>>50255673
A lot of classes really should have just been like that, desu. Some archetypes look more like they should have been part of a talent list than a whole archetype.
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>>50255720
Yeah.

Bards and Gunslingers are the ones that most immediately come to mind.

There should be variation provided WITHIN a class, not just out of it.
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>>50255616
I don't know if it's only going to be core classes.

The NPC Codex came out after Ultimate Combat, and it didn't have any archetypes.

It might have been too much effort.

If the Villain Codex is core only, we could write and generate statblocks for better villains and organizations.
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>>50255705

Just as much pleasure as there is pain, you should hope. Applying for any game is a risk, but such is the way with any investment.

My advice? Go on Myth-Weavers and check out the Pathfinder advertisements, read applications and study what they do that make your creative juices flow. Game of Thrones is a surprisingly fantastic source of easily digestible character types and ways to convey information. I'd recommend that too.
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>>50255741
To a lesser degree, Magus as well. Medium and Heavy armor shouldn't have been gated so far into the class, and spell combat/spellstrike should have probably been scaled differently.

Also more Arcana should be actually worthwhile. POOL STRIKE SHOULD HAVE HAD AN OPTION TO MAKE IT AT-WILL DAMNIT.
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>>50255766
Hey Drifter, how you doing?
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Hey PFG, which dev who stops by on the boards would you most want to have run a game for here?
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>>50255705
What we need to do is scrounge up some gms to pick up the stragglers from the RoTJR main game. Then we'll have RoTJR universe B and RoTJR universe C
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>>50255770
Eternally salty about class design, you?
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>>50255775
Buhlmann
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>>50255785
Business as usual, bro. Business as usual.
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>>50255775
>would you most want to have run a game for here?

I would unironically want James Jacobs to run a campaign for us.
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>>50255775
Depends on the context.

To bitch about? Mark Moreland, Eric Wesley Schneider or James Jacobs
To antagonize? Bulmahn
To derail? Jessica Price or Crystal Frasier
To enjoy? Mark Seifter or Jon Compton
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>>50255766
This almost makes me want to write a sort of Magus 2.0 that has actual class features.
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>>50255779
>Universe B and C
>missing out on D through L, and especially universe Z and 2A through 2C
>universe M and 2D can suck an egg, though, nobody likes those
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>>50255779
There's certainly enough people interested in playing. Who'd be up for GMing RoTJR?
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>>50255856
Rather than just spellstrike/combat which you get both of by level two, leaving almost the entire rest of the class more or less inconsequential to most things you'll do outside of the fact that casting classes multiclass like a brick flies?
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>>50255856
Do it, then call it the Unchained Magus.
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>>50255856
It would be pretty nice to have more classes that are as modular as the vigilante, Magus especially. Pool Strike becoming just a standard part of the class is probably a good idea so it isn't "ALL SHOCKING GRASP ALL THE TIME".

If you make it spheres compatible, I suggest making spell combat be spread out so it's one attack + spell at base, then later on let you use it to "full attack + cast spell". That way if you just dip, all you get is the ability to cast a spell and make one (two with spellstrike) attack. Hell, that might be a good idea for just the NORMAL magus, even. Nerfs hasted Magi a little, but doesn't fuck with the baseline too much.
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>>50255132
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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>>50255872
As the GM for the "main" game in this hypothetical scenario, someone please volunteer. I was seriously considering running extra games so there wouldn't be people left out, but I don't have time to run 8+ sessions a week.
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>>50255964
You could even just give it a "haste/speed attacks still work with this ability" clause. Though the pools strike thing is a nice idea. Any other ideas? I was thinking it'd need more good arcana, either through choices or through leveling.
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Speaking of homebrews, how's everyone elses' little homebrew projects coming along, /pfg/?
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>>50255872
>>50255779
I guess I wouldn't mind GMing but there's a small issue of I wanna play too and no one likes a gmpc
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Setting anon from yesterday here. How do people like to learn about their settings between and before sessions? Large Documents of text are pretty boring for a lot of people and finding things in them can be a huge drag. What are some people's favorite alternatives? I heard about making a Wikia, anyone have a GM that used that?
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>>50256043
_____________________________Trains_____________________________
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>>50256030
>but there's a small issue of I wanna play too and no one likes a gmpc

Anon, Jade Regent is one of those campaigns where a GMPC is actually kosher.
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>>50256010
Honestly, I just suggest OPENING UP THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE WEAPON SPECIAL ABILITIES HOLY FUCK and combing through the archetypes. A lot of them have good ideas, but fall just short of being useful. Hell, skimming through 3pp stuff probably wouldn't hurt as well.

Offhand, all I can think of is: Bucklers and Unhindered Shield. Do something with that. Maybe a Mystic Bolts knockoff for swordbeams.

>>50256030
If you don't mind either playing a respecced Ameiko, or making a character that the players are willing to waifu, you'd probably be fine.
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>>50256043
Google docs, include an index at the top for ease of browsing.
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>>50256055
So help me anon.
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>>50256017

Still trying to overcome writer's block in my own; I've posted it before, Quintessence Thief, sort of a forward port of the idea behind 3.5's Spellthief. I want to playtest it and write some archetypes for it (one initiating one, one psionic one at least, maybe one that uses spheres of power or akashic magic but i"m not familiar with either of those subsystems very well; in addition a more intimidation/combat one called spellthug and a charm/more bardy one called heartthief), but I have not had a chance for playtesting the base class yet and I feel like writing archetypes with an unplaytested base is asking for trouble.
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>>50256030
>but there's a small issue of I wanna play too and no one likes a gmpc

Tell us about the character you want to play, because there are literally four different major NPCs you could replace with your GMPC.
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>>50256081
>>50256063
Im the one who made ameiko's oni sister
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>>50256017
I've written statblocks for over half a dozen initiators and mages for a game I want to run next year.

Now, I have to write up the NPC the PCs work for, and eventually betray.

I also have to write up the NPC's Skald cohort, for the NTR route. I've also posted the other two romantic interests (broken Elven Wyrmwitch and the Privateer Battle Templar) in previous threads.
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>>50255856
Why not give them something to do outside of combat too? I find that alot of the classes kinda force you to pick in combat or out of combat and while the magus could do with some fixing in combat I'd like to see some out of combat utility and RP abilities added too! Maybe give archetypes of unchained magus and give said archetypes things to do aside from slash, bash and spell?
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>>50255775
Mark Seifter for sure. His content is awesome.
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>>50256110

Well then you're fine! Onryou is a good character for all aspects of a lewd Jade Regent adventure.

I'd still give it some thought though, since it might be more fun for you to take your chances with the other DM.
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Anyone have download links to the Hells Vengeance adventure path?
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>>50255468
I don't even know which one of these to build more definitively.
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>>50256169
They are available in the trove. Check the links in the first post on the page.
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>>50256152
There's also the issue of I know jack shit about Dsp's stuff.

Also I rarely get the chance to be just a players
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Why is DSP stuff talked about so much in these threads? I understand it's good content but maybe it should have it's own thread. I mean, hell there is more than enough material for it.
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>>50256017
Working on a map for a setting atm. Already have alot of the basics kinda worked out for things and maps coastline is in the process of getting done. I started by using hexs in the map generation stage and now I'm worried it shows a little too much in some places. I've moved on to rivers while I ponder the coastline in some places. How much does /pfg/ pay attention to maps?
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>>50256043
Still trying to figure out how to avoid gutting it, while also making it more palatable and easy for the other players to take in. This is a far bigger headache than anticipated, but progress is being made, just gotta pitch stuff and hope for the best.

>>50256139
Oh my god THIS, for all things good in the world THIS. ESPECIALLY if you decide to rework the Eldritch Scion. They need SOMETHING to do that isn't just "hit dude" or "take a crafting feat and autism it up during downtime".
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>>50256214
because its pathfinder related
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>>50256222
>meant to quote >>50256017

I have no excuse for this.
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>>50256200
>Also I rarely get the chance to be just a players

This might antagonize some people in this thread, but I honestly think you should just stick to applying for the game proper when it opens up. You've got a fun character with a hard connection to the going-ons of the campaign, seize this chance.
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>>50256222
I know that feeling anon. I was thinking Wikia because at least then I can autism out the setting and players can leap from what interests them to anything that interests them.

>>50256249
not like I typed out a response just for you anon baka...
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>>50255671
>What's your character?
A introverted elementalist(mechanically a sphere caster) and childhood friend and traveling companion of Ameiko.

He's back in town after several years of training and adventuring, for "the Swallowtail festival".
He really just wants to see his crush again as a big part of the reason he's worked so hard is because he thinks becoming a successful adventuring will earn her love.

I could really stand to improve the backstory, but I have no clue how.
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>>50256293
>that image

i only have so many tears to cry anon
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>>50256081
>>50256139
So we've got:

Spell combat having some attack limit based on magus level. This would have to account for haste, rapid shot and twf ideally.
Pool strike as a standard feature. Would this still cost arcane pool points?
Arcane pool itself would change to have all the weapon special abilities.
Some sort of arcana to get medium armor prof+spells and have it naturally progress to heavy at some later level (7th?).
Possible sword beams arcana
Some sort of out of combat utility beyond spells.

Other ideas
Arcana that gives some stat (dex or mental) to damage maybe?
Blackblade just an arcana or something?
Hexcrafter as an arcana?
Some sort of mental stat swapping would be nice imo.
What archetypes have neat shit hidden away?
Would giving it AWT through some option be okay?

Overall the things that I'm at a loss for is how the arcana progression should be and how to increase out of combat utility.
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Still soliciting feedback.

http://pastebin.com/95rXxMmC

Slime-kin race, feedback appreciated. Not 100% done. Meant to be accessible as either a one-off from a backfired spell or as a full-fledged race. Limited compression was meant to be treated as a movement type (and escape artist isn't super duper powerful so meh).

Soft idea for society is living in secret communities typically only accessible through their limited compression abilities. Sorcery and Psionics aren't uncommon to them, divine casting is less common (as they don't have their own god), they tend to not like heavy armor and how it restricts their ability to bail.

Willing to take some potential suggestions on optional alternate racial traits or racial feats.
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>>50256265
yeah if I put onryou as a gmpc id hog the spotlight far too much.

If I dont get accepted to the main game or any of the backup games that might spring up. I will try to run my own version of RoTJR. But my character has to be absent.
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>>50256000
You should put up a bulletin to recruit back up gms.
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>>50256293
Looking back, it actually relates to BOTH posts I suppose, so... uh... Nailed it?

>tfw accidentally type out how you feel for something you weren't even trying to respond to

>>50256341
The Spell Combat thing can probably just be divided into two parts, rather than making it scale constantly. I didn't want to TOTALLY gut out multiclassing (or prestiging), just make it so staying singleclassed is still attractive.

>Pool Strike as a standard feature. Would this still cost arcane pool points?
At first, but an arcana/feat/something that makes it no cost with the option to power it up with a point was what I would do.
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>>50256432
That would probably be close to the date.
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>>50256017
I got several homebrews lined up waiting for your criticism and feedback right here.

Avatar:
A Divine Elemental Barbarian - He can throw spells and swing swords like a force of nature. One of his archetypes turns him into a pokemon trainer instead.

The Avatar is 80% complete. I feel like he needs more Wrath options as well as a good class feature for 16th level.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10dEgLazR1i9O9Cs0z-6Znw96ocJPu3CVGuEOkCEfqLw/edit?usp=sharing

Empyreus:
Based on the warlock class, He can suck the essence out of an enemy and use those essences to boost himself or his allies. His archetypes turn him either to a dedicated healer or dedicated crowd controller.

The Empyreus is 95% complete. I'm pretty confident in this one and its a really fun class since I've had 3 players test run this class.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xQMlB45-UFEWCB2ffqoBUMhR-t4afSXLk29fgTJNVyw/edit?usp=sharing

Mechanist:
The Mechanist is a variation of the alchemist. He trades away alchemy for engineering, and can invent stuff like powered suits, jet packs, nanomachines, etc and then upgrade them to be even better.

The Mechanist is... incredibly subpar and needs a huge rework. It just doesn't offer a unique role that an alchemist or arcane caster can't replicate.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Rx0a2T6p_ADX0I74-yonZLc2NPyUuVSqACEFOZ1Oahk/edit?usp=sharing

Sigilist:
The Sigilist is based on the Onmyouji/Taoism, a divine caster who can empower his spells by using sigils as spell components. He can also be a decent combatant using his Talismans.

The Sigilist is 70% complete yet, I've already gotten feedback that this is much too strong as a divine caster. Easily tier 1. At the moment, I'm dialing his abilities back a bit, but everyone did like the concepts and class features.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fALiSRTmfZGb6k_7YccrTy6-FXou8yhaSqA_MukmXpg/edit?usp=sharing
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>>50255111
That girl with the snake tongue is cute. Would smooch.
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>>50256341
No offense - but try grabbing blade tricks from the soulknife for ideas. Most of them are pretty functionally great without being too strong.
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>>50256341
Do archtypes that both swap your powersource and your mental ability!

Wis for some primal magic with hexs and some animal themed buffs, give the players some things related to animals and animal spirits that tell them secrets about the past/future and let them talk to trees and stuff.
Cha for some divine magic, let the players channel their holy spirit into their blade, give them a weapon that's related to their deity and have it scale like a blackblade but with less edge and also something to do with class skills of their deity like the skill edge thing the rouge gets with the skill.
Int can stay arcane and keep the normal flavor but add some stuff about buffing allies weapons and armour with some sorta one use magic stuff. Also some bonuses from identifying monsters like that one style!
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>>50256341
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/paizo---magus-archetypes/spire-defender

Spire Defenders can use Arcane Pool points for bonuses to skill checks.

Arcane Cloak lets you use pool points for Bluff and Stealth checks.

You could also have Flamboyant Arcana and Arcane Deed to something useful, like in the pre-errata version of the ACG.
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>tfw you never get into the "good" RotJR group
>tfw they post amazing greentext summaries of their good times
>tfw yours will fall apart on meet 2
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>>50256529
Multi verse crossover sessions.
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>>50256529

Oh hush, all of them will be great assuming there's multiple games going.

What you should be "feeling" is your character concept being the best it could be so they have a chance of actually getting in.

This is actually me giving a thinly veiled "give me your character concepts or backstory ideas" because I'm a hot little potato right now and could go for helping more people come up with solid backstories.
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>>50256529
TFW all the RotJR groups will actually be really good and everyone on /pfg/ gets to post happy weekly greentexts about the alternate universes adventures.
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>>50256562
I'm >>50255468 actually and I can't decide on a character to play.
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>>50256551

>Hot Springs session in Book 4
>The characters get mixed up in a whacky multi-group crossover where everyone's different and everyone's naked.
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>>50256582

Go with the half-giant and/or giant-blooded, naive adorkable oafs are always great and like 3/4ths of the female PCs are size queens.
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What game would people rather see pop up; a CotCT or JR game?
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>>50256526
I'd argue that there should be a 'wis-based divine magus' but certainly not what you're going for.

I honestly wished they reworked the warpriest to thematically be the perfect middle between paladin and cleric, aka smite with divine spells.
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>>50256598

Using what character creation?

That's actually a tough question because both campaigns are good, but I'd have to give the edge to CotCT because JR's a hot item right now.
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>>50256598
Reign of winter
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>>50256529
>implying there won't be greentexts from ALL the groups

We're all heroes now

>>50256562
I would be down for working on my own character, but I'm in the middle of a game and don't want to accidentally have stuff bleed together.
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>>50256632
>We're all heroes now

AND HEROES NEVER DIE.

Take your time man.
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>>50256614
25 point buy
All 3p allowed (under review with a gentlemen's agreement not to bring in busted shit)
All races allowed
Start at 1st
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>>50256582
Spend one week honing each of the characters down to a fine point so when application date comes you can pick which one you think you'll like the most so the DM's read something nice before it's tossed in the garbagio for whatever tickles each of the respective DM's dicks?
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>>50256597
Now obviously the lumbering fool would be a Barbarian or Bloodrager, but what to put with that?

Also, I can't decide whether to have his low INT be a matter of Hill Giant ancestry or just lack of formal education.
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>>50256659
This is also a fine plan.
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>>50256661
>Now obviously the lumbering fool would be a Barbarian

Brawler, maybe? He'd be a Brawlbarian and have strong, rough hands.

Also I thought half-giants didn't get a penalty to INT, are you using something different? Regardless, I'd pin his low intelligence on the Hill Giant ancestry; it's not like he isn't TRYING to learn, it's just that the learning comes rough.
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>>50256434
How would you go about splitting spell combat in two? Also what about a possible two-handed spell combat at a later level?

>>50256509
I didn't think to look at bladeskills, that's a good idea. I was going to look through vigilante as well, both 1pp and jolly's stuff.

>>50256526
Archetypes like that could conflict with any other casting changing archetypes like a spheres or initiating archetype. I'd prefer that stat swaps become an arcana or feat, though I'd be cool with ones that changed spell list/prep-method also changing the stat (which could be swapped again via feat/arcana).

>>50256528
Going through the magus archetypes, most of these seem like they should have just been arcana in the first place.
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>>50256661
Why not both?
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>>50256661
Why not both. And with an INT like that he'd need a travel buddy something fierce. Someone who'd never take advantage of him. Someone like a travelling bard that always comes up with the """""best""""" of plans despite also having an equally low INT
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>>50256698
It will look like the Vigilante.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/vigilante

The Magus gets a Magus Arcana every even level instead of every third.
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>>50256694
I was gonna do something different, maybe just imply distant ancestry. Do Humans have any racial traits for that or would I actually have to go Half-Giant?
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>>50256759
I'm using Vigilante as a sort of gold standard for all this, though it could likely just become vigilante stuff, since that's easy to do. But I want it to be something new and cool.
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>>50256764
>Do Humans have any racial traits for that or would I actually have to go Half-Giant?

There's a trait called Giant-Blooded for that, or you could grab Bred For War.

I'm just suggesting Half-Giant because it's *basically* a huge human with some really good attributes and works with the lewdness of the party.
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>>50255111
The villain I'm personally most proud of was one of the most proficient con artist of the land that "stumbled" upon the Deck of Many Things.

He wanted to get rich, really rich, and have fun while using the deck, so he figured out a trick: he would go from hamlet to hamlet and offer villagers a chance at the draw. It was, of course, at their own risks, but you only need one or two curious to get interesting results. If their target would draw a card that get them riches and no other benefits, he would simply take it from them. He destabilized entire kingdoms, proping up wannabe dukes left and right, some of them incredibly powerful due to incredible luck of draw.

So much chaos was bound to attract the attention of powerful outsiders. It was just a mini arc of a campaign I ran, but honestly one of my favourites.

Of course I didn't let my PCs draw, fuck that noise.
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>>50256799
oh there'll be breeding for war alright
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>>50256799
>I'm just suggesting Half-Giant because it's *basically* a huge human with some really good attributes

2d10, same as Tieflings?
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>>50256853
2d12+2 racial bonus
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Rolled 10, 2 + 5 = 17 (2d12 + 5)

>>50256870

Oh god dammit these dice are getting out of hand.
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>>50256877
If that's in inches some dog girl is getting quite the bone.
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>>50256893
Please, anon, he's probably too dense for that sort of thing.
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>>50256893
i'm sure she can bury it just fine.
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>>50256877
Is his name Biggus Dickuss?

somewhere an ulfen woman with a sweet tooth is panting heavily
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>>50256915

Oh, so he's big and *thick?*

He might be the first girl that makes that Ulfen girl hesitate.
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>>50256922
Maximus Richard.
Max Dick for short.
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>>50256935
Nothing stops Ulfen girls! Big just means they have to go harder!
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>>50256922
>>50256935

Seems like the perfect husbando for Not! Scandinavian women.
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>>50256960

Or he just has to use other holes.
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>>50256877
>>50256893
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>>50256562
>>50256321
Tried getting help with this before, no one bit.
>bastard child offspring of some wandering adventurer and a housemaid working in Sandpoint
>worked as a house servant the moment he could pick up a mop
>he occasional reads through books in the family library/Lonjiku's study when he dusts it.
>learns about all these powerful mages, psionicists, etc. Desperately wants to be like them.
>spends all of his spare time reading about magic, psionics, ki, etc.
>is smart enough that he figures out how to replicate a bastard hybrid of Ki/Psionics
>practices it obsessively at the beach when he isn't working.
>Ameiko notices him shooting down targets and thinks its really cool he can do "magic".
>they become friends
>she ropes him into escorting them to somewhat dangerous, like old buildings and cemeteries.
>PC begins to associate magic prowess with affection
>When Ameiko leaves to go on her adventure, she convinces PC to join them.
>He does, his mother actually approves because she's a Desnarite.
>get incredibly jealous of her and Alder's relationship
>when they eventually return home after a year of traveling, he learns that his mother died in a church fire implied to be the one that Nualia started
>he doesn't know how to handle the loss and stress, so he begins to take it out on Ameiko
>they get into a big fight, and PC leaves town for X years because there's nothing really left for him there.
>throws himself into training himself up and adventuring, but can't keep her out of his mind
>returns to town for the Swallowtail festival, hoping to make amends(and also get some free eats as he is kinda broke).

How can I make this better?
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>>50256877

Oh my~

Thats just big enough that Onryou's massive knockers cant contain in her cleavage.
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>>50256784
Add some of the Arcanist's reservoir and exploits.

Exploits like Acid Jet or Force Strike can be the basis for sword beams.
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>>50257008
i mean... You seem to have the idea fully finished
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>>50256987
Anon I'm not playing one of the females, that's a pretty GAY suggestion. I think I'd rather go drinking before some wrestling where he'd pin me down before absolutely friendly bar games
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>>50257042
Yeah, but is it good or bad? Like it? Don't like it? Something?
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>>50257037

She's got other places that can contain it just fine.

Better yet, he's physically large enough that he can pick her up.
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>>50257079
I don't like it because Ameiko's my waifu and I get jealous
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>>50257084
doll him up in some finery, style his hair and give him a princely accent and she'll be butter In his burly hands
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>>50256659
Now to figure out what goes with Cavalier for the Rahadoumi and what goes with Antipaladin for the edgelo- uh, Dhampir.
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>>50257098
You would most likely would beat him handily if it came down to a contest of winning her affections.

Besides he doesn't even want to admit to himself he feels the way he does. partially because he knows he doesn't stand a chance, he's seen her turn away suitors of much better breeding and countenance than he ever could possess.
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>>50255132
First off we knew this shit two years ago
Second, stop fucking reposting and go learn new words to parrot you worthless accident
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My GM is letting us play gestalt for our next game, but I've never played gestalt before. I read the rules but I'm wondering what are some good combos for it? What gestalts have you guys played before?
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>>50255111
>How villainous are your villains?

Not very.

There was the time I combines a few items from the pic to create a gang of halflings that punched people in the groin.

This was pretty early in PF, so it was mostly Monks and Rogues with debilitating effects instead of straight damage.

The PCs hated it because I added flavor text with every successful blow against them.
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>>50256017
On hold until either Christmas, or I finish these research papers
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>>50257399
The meta is typically 'Passive class' + 'Active Class'. Passive meaning it doesn't eat your actions, while active will.

Fighter is a good example of passive class.
Wizard is a good example of an active class

Fighter gives d10 HD, good BAB, good fort save.
Wizard is d6 HD, bad BAB, and good will.

Combined you'll have d10 HD, Good BAB, Good Fort and Will, as well as spell casting and proficiency.

(Fighter + Wizard isn't a good combo due to ACP, but it's an example).

What books are you using?
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>>50255132
>>50255145
I saw some trailer for an mmo years ago and i had kinda figured that it went to shit but is pazio actually kinda in the tank with money now? I always assumed they were swimming in it
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>>50257399
My first was a Wizard(Spellslinger)/Arcanist| Warlord(Desperado) that was pretty fun. People thought my character was a girl after the first session though so I just ran with that and swapped all the genders in my backstory. People also thought I was a female after my first voice session too, when I get nervous my balls climb up into my throat and I sound effeminate.

As a general rule though take 1 "active" class with things you can do and 1 "passive" class with buffs and boosts.
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>>50256877
what is the roll again? 2d10 plus Con modifier or something?
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>>50257399
Instead of focusing on good combos, think about a concept that you've always wanted to play.

Gestalt gives you the ability to do that, and have it be effective.

See the Druid / Monk in the pic.
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>>50255616

I have the book and there are Occult and Hybrid classes featured.
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>>50257399
Druid/Monk is my personal favourite combo. All of the Druid's abilities combined with the monk's saves, flavor and passive abilities

Bonus points for being a Tettori and being the Hueg Wrastler
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>>50257484
I honestly don't believe that, since the Pathfinder MMO was funded through Kickstarter. So it might have been a loss, but I doubt it put the entire company in the red.
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>>50257516
You sound cute!
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Hey all, there a PDF of the re-release of curse of the crimson throne available yet?
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>>50256562

The only thing I'm burning the midnight-oil trying to work out is what exactly spurred Casimir (>>50255569) to leave Brevoy after graduating from the Aldori Academy; as it stands, he is brother to the King and once his best friend, the rigors of leadership however have hardened Noleski's heart, and eventually their relationship cooled.

Whatever caused him to leave, I'm thinking it led him to Mivon, where he was kicked out yet again for dueling the wrong person. From there? A gradual travel Westward, plying his services as a swordlord to whatever River King fancies an Aldori dueling blade. Eventually he would find himself at the coast, where he takes up work in Korvosa as a mere sellsword which, while profitable, was never something he had the heart for (he does it because he's good at it, but his true passion, acquired in childhood, was artistry.) I figure the incident that crushed his spirit was seeing some great work of art that made him realize that the path he was walking was not one he wanted to follow... So he retired, moving to Magnimar, and then to Sandpoint, where he's lived for the past 5-6 years now, his skills with a blade rusting while his artistry flourished. He's settled quite a bit there, owning a house and what is likely a profitable network of clients who buy up his work.

He's still got his signet ring though, and remembers those times near the Lake of Mists and Veils with his brother. He means to write and tell of what happened to him, but every time he takes out the parchment he just can't think of what to say.

I tried greentexting this but it came out too long.
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>>50257609
https://userscloud.com/rpyg388sp9p5
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>>50257535

Tieflings are 2d10+Con, Half-giants are 2d12+Con, Ulfen are 2d6+Con, and most other races or ethnicities are 2d4+Con.

Bust is same as above, but divided by 2.
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>>50255145
>>50255132

What a bunch of nonsense and drivel.
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>>50257628

Thanks man, you are awesome.
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You're in charge of making more hybrid classes.

Which do you combine and what are they called? What are their core class features?

>Inquisitor/Gunslinger
Conquistador (Four level spellcaster that has a conquest, which are essentially deeds performed for judgement. You can spend grit point likes to perform conquests)
>Oracle/Inquisitor
Exorcist (Gain a flagellation, which is a hybrid Curse/Mystery where you inflict damage to yourself in exchange for effects. Judgement becomes Exorcism where it is keyed to certain creature types)
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>>50256562
>tfw can't commit on Avowed backstory yet since by the time the campaign starts, Avowed 1 will be finished and Avowed 2 will be out which might bring way better choices
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>>50257655

I dunno what I would make, but I sure as hell wouldn't have combines a sorcerer and a wizard, and a ranger and a druid.
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Rolled 7, 10 + 5 = 22 (2d12 + 5)

>>50257636
Hmm, I wonder what my character looks like when embiggened...
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>>50257721

Now has natural attack (Hammer)
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>>50257655
Some other ideas:
>Summoner/Rogue
Shade (No eidolon, instead they get a shadow. The shadow has evolutions like an eidolon and a pool of points, but is not a separate creature. Instead you evolve it to give you abilities, like a mini synthesis summoner. On the rogue side you get sneak attack and skill unlocks, except the skill unlocks are an evolution. The same with most of the rogue talents being pushed onto the shadow as evolution for the character)
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>>50257721

TOO BIG! TOO BIG!
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>>50257787

Remember, its proportional
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>>50257721
Huh, that's smaller than I thought it would be.
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>>50257721
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Rolled 5, 8 + 2 = 15 (2d10 + 2)

>>50257636
Right, right, realized I mistyped with the dice part, but was right about the Con part.

might as well try tiefling for giggles, s'notlike it's likely to actually come up for any of my characters
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>>50257721
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>>50257805

I know it's proportional, you jerk! Don't rub it in too hard! I doubt even Sweet Cheeks can handle something that large.
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>>50255851
>Stop microaggressing Anon, Crystal, you know damn well BRRT identifies as an attack helicopter, and you're refusing to call BRRRRT by BRRRRRRRRRRRT's preferred gender.
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>>50257865

YOu underestimate the size of my tits
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>>50257865
I wouldn't worry about him rubbing it in when you have more to worry about rubbing him off~
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>>50257903
Stop being such a jerk.
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>>50257865

She can handle it! at least the girth, the length on the other hand will be a challenge, But she loves a challenge.
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>>50257915

>Stated in this thread her bust can't handle 17 inches
>And now we're adding +5 to that number

That extra length's gotta go somewhere, anon.
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>>50257999

>Stated in this thread her bust can't handle 17 inches.

fully contain is what i said, It may stick out the other end, but she can handle it just fine thank you very much. She's also a glutton too, she shoves huge things down her mouth all the time.
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>>50258030
>>50257999

She's got H cups man, she can handle the almost 2 footer.
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>>50257985

I guess she'll just have to take it an inch at a time.
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This entire thread makes me want to drink.
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>>50258072

I started drinking gin with a straw. It is the little things that keep from plunging over the edge
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God has abandoned us.

Or was it we, who had abandoned God?
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>>50258072

I just wanted advice on my character.

I mean, I'd figure something out eventually, but it's more fun for everyone if we do it together, right?
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Rolled 6, 4 + 7 = 17 (2d12 + 7)

>>50257985
Alchemist coming through.

inb4 two 1s
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>>50257482
We're using all Paizo material and most third party. GM loves DSP and Spheres of Power too.
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>>50258107
โ€œBeware that, when posting lewds, you yourself do not become a ERPer... for when you gaze long into /pfg/. The /pfg/ gazes also into you.โ€

-Nietzsche or something
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>>50258072
Even the Magus redesign?
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Rolled 4, 1 + 4 = 9 (2d6 + 4)

>>50257985

Speaking of... lets see if her sweet tooth gets her anywhere in the bust department like her pic suggests.
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>>50258152
That's the deadass truth,
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>>50257767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7bdr6fjg-k
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>>50258072
Tell me about it.

The narrative on this lumbering idiot's gone beyond my control.

What have I unleashed? I mean, he's descended from THIS for crying out loud!
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>>50258152
My secret plan is to push some characters as 'lewd' so my character can get in to balance out the 'lewd' and so that nobody will post about mine and influence the GMs opinion
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>>50258164

Turns out Sweet Tooth's not actually that voluptuous, she's just very deep.
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>>50258164

Lets see...
I'm somewhere around Tira
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>>50257655
>Aegis/Soulknife
Do the Metaforge RIGHT this time

>Alchemist/Gunslinger
Grenade shots and Extract injectors galore

>Barbarian/Gunslinger
Gunzerker

>Gunslinger/WarlockVigilante
Reasons obvious.
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Rolled 7, 7 + 15 = 29 (2d10 + 15)

http://pastebin.com/mcN9n7L9

Let's see how big Autism Fighter's dick is since he is an Azlanti.
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>>50258239

sweet tooth can still have Hips for days tho, and i'm an ass man from the word go.

>>50258256
And with that, the mood is killed.
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>>50258256
What the fuck
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>>50257915
>>50258030
Why the fuck am I jerking off to a /pfg/ thread
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>>50258256
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>>50258275
It is already too late. There is no hope left.
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>>50258263

You're a man after my own heart, anon.
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>>50258256
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Rolled 3, 3 + 1 = 7 (2d4 + 1)

You know what, this thread's already too far gone anyway, time to add some sobering realism to the thread.
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>just want advice on playing gestalt for the first time
>walk away from the PC for ten minutes
>now it's nothing but dicks
Why did I expect anything different from you, /pfg/?
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>>50258256
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>>50258317

Your chest is adorable anon
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>>50258349
There is no escape. There is no hope.

We are already dead.
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>>50258349
I like picking either a concept that doesn't work in normal games or picking all my favorite mechanics and shoveling them on one character for maximum fun.
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>>50258360

Wrong gender, anon.
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>>50258349
Yeah generally i just go with something that sounds cool, and then decide if its effective after the fact.
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>>50258107
God is a shitty DM anyways.
LOOK AT US! A PARTY OF NPCS AND COMMONERS!

Why can't I roll a wizard? Why can't I decide my stats? Why is there no magic? Why are random encounters boring as fuck?

The sessions are all the same. The pacing sucks, the plot doesn't make sense.
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>>50258384

I said chest, not breasts. I made no mistake.
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>>50258411

Oh gosh.

He's got an "Appearance" score of 14 anyway.
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>tfw more I try to make viable "ritual casting" feat trees the stupider it looks

I don't know man. I am having a really hard time making this work. I'm dead set on it taking longer to cast than normal spells, but the progression and number of feats are giving me a hard time.

I've about hit the point of making it a three feat tree. One that qualifies you to become a ritual caster, then Ritual Caster and Advanced Ritual Caster. One that qualifies you for up to 4th level spells, and the other that goes up to 6.

Basically for a few feats it is meant to give characters access to utility spells. Things like teleportation, augury, speak with dead, invisibility, arcane lock, alarm, etc.

I also want it to draw on "Use more people to make it better" and "the trappings of the ritual improve the quality".

However I am starting to think three feats are too few.
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>>50258218

your only hope is to bring it back to his personality. Does the big lug have any hobbies?
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>>50258472

have you looked at all at Occult rituals?
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>>50258485
I have been giving it a look, but am unsure of them. I think I should probably take a bigger leaf out of their book.
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What are the chances of playing anything cat related and not having khajiit come up?
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>>50258541

Higher than you think, but lower than you hope.

Most people I know just associate them more with cat-girls than Khajiit.
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>>50258515

In my opinion it sounds like the Ritual feats should be "Convert common spells into Occult rituals. Ritualized spells their cast time increased to a number of minutes equal to 10+ (10)spell level "

And feats along the tree allow later and later spells to be converted into rituals.
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>>50258473
I was thinking he might like dice games (he likes the sound they make) but not be very good at them for obvious reasons.

Also, any sport that involves throwing things really far. Maybe he could even want to get into pottery, but have trouble with it due to the delicate work required for intricate designs.
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>>50258625

THis sounds like a Champion stone skipper!
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>>50256341
>Arcane pool itself would change to have all the weapon special abilities.
Maybe instead of getting ALL the weapon special abilities, you choose an X number at first level to customize your list and can get more every 4 or 5 levels or spend an arcana and get two or three abilities added to the list.

>Arcana that gives some stat (dex or mental) to damage maybe?
Dex definetly, Int maybe, bith stack with strenght instead of raplace so if you dump str you still lose damage, can't stack both.
>Blackblade just an arcana or something?
Either an archetype, or divide into multiple arcana
>Hexcrafter as an arcana?
Yes.
>Some sort of mental stat swapping would be nice imo.
Archetytpe territory
>What archetypes have neat shit hidden away?
Dunno right now
>Would giving it AWT through some option be okay?
WT I could see, but AWT... Depends on if you have replaced the fighter with a better unchained version. Not the Augunas one, tht's still middling. If yes, AWT and AAT are fair game. If not, why not? Fighters suck.
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>>50258625
>Maybe he could even want to get into pottery, but have trouble with it due to the delicate work required for intricate designs.

I know a man who could help him learn.
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>>50258652
I've worked through most of the archetypes and found that most are in line for what I want arcana to be. Eldritch Archer, Eldritch Scion, and Kensai change too much for me to easily convert to arcana.

What did you mean by split blackblade into multiple arcana?
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Do we have any #CoCT bros in here? I'm in a pickle I may need some ideas for;

So my players killed Pilts. He escaped once, they visited Arkona Palace, were told to go make sure he was dead, went to his Warehouse-of-Horrors dungeon where they fought him and Worm-That-Walks Rolth. They go back to Arkona Palace.

Now my problem is I sent them into the dungeon to find Vencarlo and Neolandus, I told them what they needed to know (Levers, rotating sections, danger) and they're on their way in.

But now I've decided, I don't want to reveal the truth about the Arkonas to them right now. It doesn't feel right, they've only just met them in person, and I want them to have more time to potentially be used by Glorio and grow to hate him.

So basically, I need some ideas of what I can do in the dungeon that will make them A.) Not discover the family's secret and B.) Not completely ruin the dungeon so that they might be able to go back in later for the real fights.

Would having Rakshasa posing as Vencarlo and Neolandus in one of the very early rooms, who they are tricked into taking out with them be too much? If I do that, with maybe one or two fights, do you think they'll ignore the fact that the dungeon was too easy?

Need input.
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What the fuck is going on in this thread?

So about that Starfinder...
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>>50259011

>He believed the memes
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>>50259011
Hear me out guys.

Lewd starfinder
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>>50258652
>>50258792
Kensai getting Weapon Training and AWT with their chosen weapon would make me diamonds
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>>50259074

I'm going to be completely, 100% honest with you.

While I thought the lewd discussion was an amusing burst of posts, it shouldn't occur more than twice a day. Keep lewd starfinder for when Starfinder comes out.
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>>50259083
It probably will, my man
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Why did they sink money into the online game instead of doing a good VTT and group finder?
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http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/archetypes/paizo---alchemist-archetypes/internal-alchemist

Is the internal alchemist a viable alternative to alchemist?
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>>50258253
Is Savage Technologist that bad? I've glanced at it, and it at least gets Dex to dam.

Of course, it gets the reloading problem, but y'know.
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>>50259144
>into the online game instead of doing a good VTT and group finder?

Who needs those when you've got PFS and Roll20.
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>>50255293
Really? Thats the only bad part? Not being a 3/4 bab class with no boosters, no arcana pool like the magus it fails to copy, no nothing to make it actually work as it could possibly have been intended? Read the damn thing, you technically cant even use the lashes for touch attacks, they only deliver spells on regular attacks that you'll never land thanks to your abyssmal accuracy. When will you ever use ectoplasmic armor since you will have better gear before it comes online and jumping from 4 to 6 at level 12 is pitiful. How about some action economy, when does the action to create lashes improve again? Never, oh yeah, its never.

Ectoplasmatist has all the problems of a core 3.0 monk.

Try mocking one up and see what you can actually do with it other than flail about and die early. So much wasted potential qith that archetype. Maybe someday they'll redo it as a magus archetype that actually works.
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>>50259149

>is alchemist a viable alternative to alchemist

wut
>>
What's a good rationale for skintight bodysuits?
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>>50259315
>>50256365
Jel's wear them cause they don't like having to doff clothing to squeeze through places.
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>>50259315
Djezet Skin
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>>50259315

It's like you're wearing.

Nothing at all.

Nothing at all.
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>>50259246
Internal alchemist has different abilities.
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>>50259315
Aegis or this.
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>>50259315
You're an arcane spellcaster that knows real armor would fuck up your casting, but need some protection against weapons anyway. So, you wear what >>50259346 said.
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>>50259360

it's an alchemist archetype
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>>50259315
You don't like all the weight of normal armour and the dwarfs promised it had all the strength with half the weight.
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>>50259409
Yes but it still has different abilities that will affect how it plays.
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>>50259424
>You don't like all the weight of normal armour and the dwarfs promised it had all the strength with half the weight.

Wouldn't it be the Elves? They're the ones that made Elven Chain after all.
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>Dwarf battle maidens in armored high-heels and skintight armor

This is now a part of your setting
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>>50259483
>This is now a part of your setting

No.

It is not.

Dwarves are a slave race under their Elven masters, they can't afford to be pretty.
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>>50259492
>implying the elf masters dont dress the dwarves up for kicks
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http://www.realmshelps.net/monsters/templates/livingspell.shtml

What does a living spell of Atonement look like?
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>>50259566
Depends on the original caster.
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>>50259566

A young child, A loving mother, or a kindly old woman.
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>>50259453
Nope. It's a special silver and metal alloy, enchanted by dwarven songsmiths deep in the hills. It was first crafted for the tallest king, and since then it's been an expensive treat for nobles and sold at high prices. (The secret is that the armour actually shifts some of the energy around the wearer using a manipulation of the conductive idea of sliver, they'd use gold but that's so conductive magic slides right off)
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Gestalt anon from earlier, decided to go with a Scaled Fist Unchained Monk and a Sphere Sorcerer. Now I ask, what would be some good spheres to support this setup?
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What's a good metric to use if I'm unsure whether or not a backstory event is "too much?"

I mean, I understand the logic behind "if you have to ask, than it is" but this feels a little more complicated.
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>>50259592
What about Atonement when cast by priests of Chaos or Evil?
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>>50259605
Depends on flavor wanted. Telekinesis is always neat. Time, Warp are staple effects. Alteration's probably not bad for you. Protection for a mage-armor-like ability since no armor. Enhancement might work but I'm not sure how unarmed strikes work with that. Fate and Divination can provide nice utility for low investment.
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>>50259640
>at about Atonement when cast by priests of Chaos or Evil

A young mischievous child, An overly loving mother or a kindly yet overbearing old woman.
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>>50259651
I've got the Gold Dragon Bloodline so I'm looking to see if there's anything synergistic with that in Spheres.
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>>50259639
Just don't be a dick, don't be to edgy, and don't put magical realm where it doesn't belong. Also no trains.
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>>50259717
>also no trains

you get the fuck right out of here
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>>50259717
See >>50256055
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>>50259740
>>50259752
I don't get this joke
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>>50259717

What about planes?
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>>50259770
Depends on which plane.

Shadow and most of the lower planes are and always will be too edgy
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>>50259770
forget planes and trains! what about automobiles!
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>>50259793
new thread.
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I don't get it, what's with the Iomedae and trumpets talk?
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>>50259817
>page 4
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>>50259806
The Plane of Shadow isn't that edgy.

If you walk long enough in the right direction, while avoiding all the encounters, you can walk to a new Prime Material Plane in a better campaign setting.
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>>50259769

You think trains are a motherfucking joke son?
>>
As a Magus, should I VMC bard (for Inspire Courage) or wizard (for Evoker Admixture) to be better in combat?

Bard gives bardic knowledge, which is a huge bonus to monster lore, but that seems largely for flavor.
>>
Can you jump during a charge? can you charge at a flying creature?
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>>50261111
Versatile Evocation is pretty awesome for shocking grasp magi, this way you don't have to worry about creatures with immunity to electricity or energy resistance

Inspire courage bonus is pretty low for the most part (-4 to your char level to determine the bonus)
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>>50258472
Have you looked at the Spell Proxy feat line from the Enhancement Sphere Handbook?
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