>Roll to seduce Is this a meme, or are there times when it's

If you're rolling for penis size.

Depends on system.

Anything vaguely sexual is considered a meme by /tg/ because they can't handle it.
Apparently there are players who will roll to seduce everything with a pulse but they're on the same level as players who kill random shopkeepers, and I've never actually encountered one.
If a player is just trying to get some barmaid pussy during downtime or weasel their way out of a sticky situation by seducing the female shaman of the Orcs that captured the party, it's fine.

>>50223480
If a game differentiates between forms of 'persuasion', I guess it's legitimate.
I know /tg/'s population is about 49% perverts and 49% prudes, but big shock, you can actually include themes like seduction and sex in your game without it having to be awkward or 'lewd'.

>>50223480
i've had bards fuck their way past enemies before

>>50223500
Not really

>>50223554
This.

Remember kids, sex is bad, mkay?

>>50223554
>everything with a pulse
>implying I wouldn't roll to seduce a vampire if given the chance

>>50223574
I don't honestly see the problem with legitimately "lewd" stuff, so long as somebody's clearly not trying to get their jollies at the table.

If you're not playing with decently-mature adults then stop playing.

It's only annoying when it gets into magical realm territory.

But if you've designed a character that can use seduction as a viable means of conflict resolution, you're an idiot not to use it.

>>50223500
>>50223732
I mainly run Monsterhearts, in that game it's always appropriate

yeah it's pretty bad. I always hate when players just want to roll instead of you know, actually roleplaying the seduce part and then rolling how well they did it(i might throw few bonuses if they roleplayed it well, never the opposite, cause some players are just bad at roleplaying)

>>50223732
Ya, rally!

The same goes for Diplomacy, Intimidate and other applicable forms of "social combat" or "non-combat influence". Some systems make them virtually useless while in others they are effectively mind control.

>>50223480
Why wouldn't it be appropriate?

I don't wanna replay any boner-jammin', But why wouldn't diddling occasionally occur? Roll-to-black is totally appropriate.

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>>50223480
>I roll to seduce you op, does it work?

Rolled 2 + 8 (1d20 + 8)

>>50224665
It would help if you actually rolled.

>>50224465
>cause some players are just bad at roleplaying
>I don't find my players sexy so their character are bad at seducing people

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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>50224665
Success?

I swear dice rolls always glitch from my phone

>>50224465
>not rolling and then role-playing the result
>2017- minus one sixth
I SHIGGY DIGNITY

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>>50224696

>>50223480
Are those horns are is this one of the legendary Elves of Unusual Size?

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>>50224709
>i might throw few bonuses if they roleplayed it well, never the opposite, cause some players are just bad at roleplaying

> never the opposite, cause some players are just bad at roleplaying

>never the opposite

meaning he never gives penalties for "bad roleplaying"

>>50223480
>are there times when it's appropriate to do this
when you have immunity to rape

>>50225339
How does seduction even lead to rape? You know there's a difference between flirting and flipping to arous-o-meter past its maximum, right?

>>50223480
Both. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

On a sidenote, if you don't make your players roll for social, investigation or knowledge skills, you're making investment in those skills completely useless. It's fine, but just be sure to tell your players so beforehand.
And don't force players to do lengthy and convincing roleplay before rolling for social interactions if they don't want to. You don't have them explain how their character climb the wall or catch dinner in the wilderness every time.
It's fine if the player is ok with it, but having a shy player ankwardly mumbling at the table for 10 minutes when his big barbarian interrogates someone quickly lose its appeal.

>>50224465
This is really frustrating, even outside of seduction.

>I want to convince the warlord to give up his horde to us and let us be the leader!
>Uh, okay, what's your argument?
>But I rolled a twenty!

I'm not asking players to be amazing actors or something, I just want to know what they're trying. A corny pick-up line might work on a insular witch not used to flattery, while a barmaid used to grubby hands trying to grope her might enjoy getting properly wooed.

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>>50223480
I wouldn't try it unless you're already strong enough to defeat the monster in combat.

>>50225373
>there's a difference between flirting and flipping to arous-o-meter past its maximum

depends on how good your and the other rolls are.
seduction is intended to arouse the other party, but just enough to make them desire you and thus have a weakened willpower against you.
But what happens after depends on the charateristics of the one oure trying to seduce.
If you successfully seduce a dog he's gonna hump you. If you successfully seduce a warlord and slaver he's gonna want to have sex with you and won't take no for an anwser. Sure you'll avoid being sold and he'll treat you better than most for a while, but at the end he'll want your lovebits.
And with mythical creatures like gnolls or orcs the result might be more similar to dogs than warlords.
Seduction doesn't automatically lead to rape, but depending on the one you're trying to seduce, the situation you're in and how much power they have over you ad in the setting it might be a real risk.
I imagine if you have a bad roll you have failed at seduction. If you have a good rol you have succeeded. But what if you succeed at seduction and then the enemy has a roll as good as you? Or better?

>>50225456
Many people try it BECAUSE they aren't strong enough to defeat it in combat.

Why is it perfectly acceptable to play a Casanova womanizer but totally gross and pathetic to have your female character distract a guard with her gazongas?
Is this inverted for female players?

>>50225488
It's just how social rules ended up, I can't fucking tell you why.

And it's not like I particularly enjoy a casanova in my games anyway.

>>50225488
Both are usually fine from female players. Creepy female magical realm takes a different form.

>>50225488
Just bringing a female PC at all is enough for people to think you're gross and pathetic.
It's really fucking annoying actually.

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>>50225488
>Short explanation
Master key, shitty lock

>Middle explanation
Women are attracted to womanizers (they even have an active preference for men who are already married), men aren't attracted to sluts (unless society actively tells them that they're evil shitlords for not liking sluts).

>Long
A man can impregnate as many women as he has access too because with even a single load he produces thousands of semen cells and he can blow dozens of loads a day. A woman needs to carry a baby to term for 9 months. Evolutionarily speaking it's in a man's best interests to impregnate as many women as he can to propagate his genes. On the other hand, it's in a woman's interests to be very stingy with her pussy, because she wants to keep a man (preferably a man with good traits ie. a man desirable to other women) closeby to provide for her during this vulnerable period. And then there's also the fact that a woman always knows whether or not a child is hers and a man does not.

60 years of social development does not change tens of thousands of years of evolution, you post-modern fruitcake.

>>50225637
You're an idiot.

>>50225488
Because one is a player playing a role, even if it's wish fulfillment.
The other, since players are usually male, just comes off as fetishy, even if it actually isn't.

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>>50225637
>distracting a guard with your tits is equivalent to being impregnated and carrying a child to term

Had it been a whole two days or so since you found your last excuse to use the masterkey analogy and just couldn't hold it in anymore?

>>50225740
But am I wrong?

>>50225762
You don't get it, do you? It's why promiscuous behavior in general is looked down upon. This includes explicit invitations to sex. Our instincts don't exactly interpret subtleties and context. If they did, then egalitarianism would actually work.

>>50225762
He probably ignored that part because no one has ever thought there was anything wrong with a girl distracting a guard by flashing her tits, except maybe modern feminists.

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>>50225475
That just leads to bigger problems if you do succeed.

>>50225637
Not to be some raging feminist, but for that middle explanation, I doubt a lot of perception about womanizers is really from a female perspective. It's more dudes going 'shit yeah you've been getting a lot.'

While evolution does play something of a role, social constructs have taken us away from what evolution may have originally intended. It's not just 60 years, it's ever since monogamous marriage was a thing, maybe even arguably since we began forming hunter gatherer societies instead of just being animals.

And 'a man with good traits' is rather simple, since it's been somewhat shakily proven that women will reconsider a meh guy after they learn that he's got a million bucks - they care more about providing for their future children, because evolution and all that - and it's not just for the term of the pregnancy, but for as much as the child needs until they can be independent.

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>>50225637
if we're going prehistoric about this, there are several respected theories that it was actually better for females to have multiple partners. That way males could not be certain if the child was theirs and thus increase the number of males who would take care of both the pregnant mother and the child.

>>50225874
This is only relevant if the fathers kill other offsprings.

In such harsh environments yes, that's the optimal strategy.

>>50225974
why would that be the only case it's relevant and or why would they do that anyway? Infection from mild injury would probably kill the majority of males before they hit their mid 30s. Mothers having "back up fathers" would be a very good way to ensure someone would look after them and their child. Killing offspring sounds like a good way to ensure your tribe dies off.

>>50225637
Impregnating as many women as possible doesn't guarantee that they'll have pregnancies nor that her children will grow up cared of well enough to be able to successfully reproduce. Furthermore going going around trying to find as many females to impregnate is time and energy expensive.
While it's in a male's best evolutionary interest to impregnate any woman he has the chance to it's also in his inerest to settle down and make sure that his children(or those that are likely his) are cared for.
This also means that it's in his best interest to have sexual relations with multiple women within his closest social group, his tribe, to increase the chance that at least one is his, and to care for all the children.
While for a female it's important to be choosy about her mate this mostly pertains to avoinding mates who are clearly unfit, sickly, crippled deformed or with an evident illness, and to make sure she's in the correct condition, regarding her health and her access to food and her safety.
Choosing the the best mate possible is important,but what appears the best in this specific moment may not be in a few years with different conditions or when a sickness appears that this one male was weak against while the other who was a bit shorter had no problems with. Having genetic variety in her prole is also important for a female. You don't put all your eggs in one (genetic) basket.

Furthermore having multiple partners at the same time would ensure that the most fertile passes on his genes and hers. Not only fertility is important in itself, but being more fertile comes with being healthier. This is also a way to weed out mates who have some underlying condition that is not readily apparent.

And this is why women last longer than men and can have multiple orgasms, and men are turned on by seeing a woman fuck another man and thus porn exists.

>>50225874
I know theres a few breeds of horses that do this, partly because of the thing >>50225974 mentioned where they'll stomp other horse's offspring to death to get the mom in heat.

>>50223480
Yes. When you don't want to roleplay through the seduction. Perhaps it is not an important one or is routine or there is little chance of failure. A vampire hunting via seduction is a good example.

>>50226110
Lions do it too. Whenever a male lion loses his harem, he also loses his cubs.

>>50226190
Lot of animals do that really. Bears are another. Stomping out others spreading their genes into the gene pool is just as important as spreading your own.

>>50225974
no, that's relevant if the fathers would not risk their lives to protect the children in case of attack from a predator or protect them from abuse by other tribe members, because it's not their child, if they don't put as much effort in finding food for them, if they do not invest much time and energy in teaching them skills that will help them survive, or simply if the fathers favor their own children over the others.

>>50225438
>"OK, but HOW do you seduce?"
>give a two sentence summary in a completely monotone voice
>rest of the party looks at me like I'm a pathetic piece of shit
Never again.

>>50226272
There's no winning with this type of thing

>>50226058
Lions do it.

>>50226272
Better than nothing, in my opinion. Like I said, I'm not asking for amazing actors - I really care more that you've thought about your response, and if it's in-character for your character and might affect the character they're seducing.

I would prefer more than a summary though. You don't have to talk to me, just talk to an empty space next to you or something. Pretend like you're addressing the NPC, even if not in tone.

>>50226392
It's not about that, it's about how everyone else thinks I'm getting off on it despite the fact that I'm trying my hardest for it to look like the opposite.

>>50226367
Lions have no social constructs that lead to societies that amount to anything more than instinctual.
Humans do.

>>50226527
I don't see how a completely monotone voice and a dry summary could make people think you were getting off on something. Usually the obvious cues are too much detail and too much emotion and enjoyment.

>>50226581
You'll find that many social constructs in humans, especially those such as monogamy, exist to actively suppress human nature. Now that we promote absolute individual freedom and pretend those instincts no longer exist, we see them floating back to the top. Hence the rise of a light form of polygamy: serial monogamy.

>>50225974
Which is why you see all kinds of cases of human males running off whenever something scares them. Sarcasm, in case you didn't notice.

>>50226260
So, in cases of humans known as shit?

>>50226653
We're all shit, friend. Get this Marxist idea of the mallable man out of your head, humans are inherrently horrible beings and the great moral struggle is in suppressing our beastly nature. And even then the question isn't if we'll succeed, but when we will fail.

>>50226623
Those are all social constructs dictated by a specific point in a given culture. Change the culture and you will find very different things considered acceptable. Humans depend almost completely on the society and can't survive without it. So much more emphasis is on what is considered good than on what is instinctual. This way of life bred out the behaviour you usually find in other animals. To be cast out of the community is death, so surviving means not only that you act according to what you are told, but also that you do it with a huge shit eating grin.
This is why you don't see martial infidelity in every relationship. The social price is usually too high, so the instincts, whichever they actually might be, can be diregarded without much problem.
The situations where an individual decides to cheat on the partner are never considered instinctual in the way true instincts are, as in something that can not be ignored, since they are VERY easy to ignore.
Infidelity is always a conscious act and anyone telling you otherwise either reads too much shit romance fiction or has an ulterior motive in their claims.

>>50226679
>humans are shit
Never argued otherwise. Marx has nothing to with my claims, Locke, Russeau and Hobbes do. Humans are shit but rational, in the sense they build societies. And societies abhor certain behaviour, making certain to stomp it out. You may call it natural selection, only that the factor deciding what gets cast out to die is the god fearing 'good' citizens.
Without such norms, you don't get a functioning society. Look at the current Middle East, worse parts of Africa or what Khmer Rouge did and how the society died when they did it.

Seduction is a real thing used by real people to get things they want so... why wouldn't it be appropriate? If we're taking about some random hobgoblin than yea, but that's stupid and everyone knows that's a joke. But some high ranking general or aristocrat? sure.

>>50224465
Personally I think it's better not to roleplay that. I'm the sure the GM and other players will be kinda creeped out by one player basically forcibly talking seduction to an unwilling GM. Just roll for it.

>I want to try and have my female bard seduce the guardsman!
>You fail, the guard says he's gay.

Is this a problem, even if the GM had long since decided that that specific guard would be gay?

>>50228085
Even gay guys can get off with a blowjob.

>>50223480
>Roll to seduce

Fuck you, bard, this is my game and I want to fucking see you roleplay this shit. Let's go, get me hard, make me fall in god damn love you bitch.

>>50228137
Do lesbian women love your offers to eat them out?

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>>50225438
On the other hand not everyone is as intelligent or wise as their character is. You don't make players show you their amazing feats of strength in order to play a 20+ str character. You don't make them do 12 backflips in a row to show you their agility. Mental stats are there for a reason, to represent what a character is able to do, not the player.

If you're going to force them to come up with something stupid and it just somehow works because they happened to roll for it, expect a fairly silly campaign. Most of the time I'm okay with this.

>>50223554

I've made one character who tried to lay everything that moved.

But he was a Satyr Bard based based loosely on Captain Kirk/Zapp Brannigan.

Did succeed in using Charm Monster on and banging a succubus. Didn't hurt that he had an insanely high modifiers to social checks.

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>>50228085
>Is this a problem
Of course not!

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>>50223554
Played a game once with one of those omni-seducer types. He tried to seduce a spider, rolled a 20. I was playing a jackass cleric who tried to convert everyone, and also rolled a nat 20 when I tried to convert the spider.

Our DM just said it gave the rogue a free shot at the distracted spider because we were idiots for trying to seduce/convert a stupid spider.

Then, to make matters worse, the bard decided to take responsibility, and attempted to enroll the dead spider's hundreds of offspring into a local school. I argued we should send them to the church, but nobody ever listened to me unless they were dying.

>>50228889
If I ever write a comic, I'm stealing this setup.

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>>50225829
Dragons can polymorph. If nothing else, they'll become a smaller version of themselves and you've successfully secured yourself a sugar mama.

>>50228719
What is that and where can i read it?

>>50224397
Are there any other games like monsterhearts? I like the idea of it from a roleplay perspective but I hate the rules.

>>50225974
That's how Bonobos do it.

Females are always more horny than males, you are allowed to fuck anyone but a female always has to initiate heterosexual sex. But females will aim to have sex with every male, and as I said before the females are far more horny than the males, so everyone ends up fucking every baby mama.

Males don't compete for mates and treat all offspring like their own (plus, you know, they'll fuck their own offspring) resulting in the entire clan always progressing towards the same goals rather than competing. They don't compete with other clans either, when they meet each other they usually do some interclan fucking and trade a few members, then move apart in territory.

>>50225488
I once GMed a Spycraft game where a female player made a Lara Croft lookalike who used her amazing super-boobs to stun and distract enemies. There actually is a Feat called "Fan Service" that allows you to use the Impress skill (instead of Manipulate) to make a distract action and fuck with initiative.

She is pretty flat IRL, so it might have been a wish fulfillment thing, but I dare not ask her.

>>50223480
The very concept of seduction is a meme, mate.

>>50225015
The lack of a bonus is a penalty.

>>50229303
Voynich Hotel, and google can answer the second question.

Nickelodeon and Oddman Eleven are by the same author, and also amazing.

>>50229303
Spoiler: Homo dies

>>50223480
>or are there times when it's appropriate to do this?
When it's in character and/or fits the tone of the game

>>50225829
>That just leads to bigger problems if you do succeed.
I don't see any issues

>>50229284
Despite what /tg/ thinks, by RAW most CAN'T
going by core dragons, 7/10 times you won't find yourself a shapeshifting waifu

>>50223480
>Not seducing that giantess

>>50223480
When you are trying to seduce something, duh.

Are you stupid, seriously. I mean at least think about those times in fiction where say a female character seduces a guard or official in order to lead them into an ambush.

>>50228712
>Did succeed in using Charm Monster on and banging a succubus.
Isn't that rape?

>>50232051
Yes that would fall under assorted "consent given under mind-altering influence doesn't count as consent" principles.

On the other hand, it's a succubus, the literal walking "asking for it" case.

>>50224022
I don't honestly see the problem with legitimately "lewd" stuff, even if people are clearly trying to get their jollies at the table.

Provided everyone is consenting adults, who cares? /tg/ used to have /erpg/ threads until they were chased off the board because people couldn't handle the notion of adult human beings willingly roleplaying sex with each other. I'm not into the whole "let's lewd with dice as the purpose of the game" thing (not that combat isn't already a clusterfuck where time slows to a crawl), but sexual RP is great and people flipping out about things that happen in not-their-game is weird as hell, even if I've been guilty of "that's not canon!" before.

>>50223480
When you want to seduce someone.

>>50228889
>nobody ever listened to me unless they were dying.
I like you, anon.
But I'm not joining your religion

>>50225637
>muh evopsych bullshit
>>50225823
>But am I wrong?
Yes.

>>50225488
Because we as a society are afraid of female sexuality. Also because that female character is generally played by a guy.

>>50223574
The last 2% are the non-retards?

>>50232191
No, the 2% are guys who are going to be contrarian to the thread whether its pro- or anti-lewd.

>>50226679
>Marxist idea
Do... you actually know who Karl Marx is? Or what he wrote about?
He was a socialist philosopher.
He... had nothing to do with the notion of human beings being inherently horrible. And, really, the notion of "State of Nature" being either blissful peace *or* nasty, brutish, and short life is a false dichotomy.

Why the hell did this thread get evopsych and biotruthy?

>>50228531
The guards would. Fantasy guards are all abusive and live to exploit prisoners in any way they can. That's their role in the story. Otherwise they'd relent and free the innocent characters.
... your characters ARE being framed, right?

>>50229321
Bonobos will also give each other handjobs if they start arguing. Two dudes arguing and then mamma comes by and grabs them both by the junk and they forget what they were complaining about.
Was it bonobos or chimpanzees who were also taught to use money and then started prostitution?

>>50229330
>it might have been a wish fulfillment thing
I can tell you that I'm not a powerful wizard who many people rely on to protect them from evil, Anon. Even if your friend wasn't playing Tits McCroft out of dismay at her own pancake bust, roleplaying is wishfulfillment.

welp, smells like aspel is getting out of containment again

>>50223554
I've encountered a player that did both. Like, not separately either, I mean at the same time. He wasn't particularly successful at either.

>>50226078
>cuck enabler

Your phony science is no defense for your repulsive way of life, m8

>>50232220
As in, both the barmaid and the shaman; or both seducing everything and stabbing everything?

>>50225637
Haven't read that much stupid in a while...

++ Natural Charmer

Prerequisites: Cha 17, dhampir.

Benefit: You can take 20 on any Charisma-based skills to charm, convince, persuade, or seduce humanoids whose attitude is at least friendly to you. Taking 20 still requires 20 times the normal time to perform the skill.

Normal: You cannot take 20 on any check where you incur penalties for failure.


I like to take 20 on seduce.

>>50232096
Preemptive Strike Rape

>>50232235
So does that represent a long courting process or dropping cheesy pickup lines until they fuck you out of pity?

>>50232246
Lengthy abduction as a prelude to lovemaking process, obviously.
Because Draculas don't fucking play

>>50232246
>>50232259

only takes about 2 minutes so when you're this damn fine I guess everyone is a slut.

>>50232202
>He was a socialist philosopher.
And one of the fundamental assumptions of Marxism is the malleability of man.

https://benjaminstudebaker.com/2013/10/18/marx-and-human-nature/
>In contrast, agreeing with Marx’s theory of history requires that one hold the view that human nature is quite malleable

If a 'mere' blog isn't good enough for you, have an academic source.
>http://www.jstor.org/stable/652346?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Political philosophies don't fall out of thin air. The liberal thinkers (which some other anon already named: Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau et al) are liberal precisely because they believe in the fallability of man's nature. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Totalitarian thinkers are totalitarian because they believe man is malleable. Something like the ideal Aryan or the New Soviet Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man) can be created with enough 'persuasion' from the state.

Many fields of philosophy are interconnected, and your assumptions in one field either rely on or influence your assumptions in another field.

>>50223480
given that systems have seduction skills, it's not a meme. and, yes, it is. you're at times rolling for social interaction, seduction/flirting is one of them.

>>50224465
>because i want my male player buddies try to seduce me
faggot detector off the richter scale

>>50225015
>player stands up, turns down the light, starts lighting some candles and puts on some smooth jazz
if that's what you want...

>>50229624
But isn't an actual penalty.
So if you're social autist, you can still try to play your casanova character without being zeroed down. And with practice you may yet get better.

>>50232096
Don't you die if you actually bang a succubus?

>>50232419
depends on the setting

>>50232201
>Contrarian
>Not Quantum Biased

>>50225637
>implying arbitrary, flexible and unstable social rules wouldn't dictate like 99% of human sexuality

You've never had a gf, right?

>>50232598
>>implying arbitrary, flexible and unstable social rules wouldn't dictate like 99% of human sexuality
Tradition of diamond rings being THE thing to propose marriage is less than 100 years old.

>>50226367
>humans are lions

So many reddit fags here. Please fuck off.

>>50232221
So you're not a cuck if you only look at gay porn?

>>50232608
Thats what i was saying.

>>50232693
Yeah I'm just adding an example.

>>50232631
>everyone who is not echo chambering in my safe space is from Reddit

Move from /tg/ ----> to reddit

>>50223499
So that's what, 2d6?

>>50232221
>cuck enabler
>phony science
I don't have to enable anything, it exists independent of my or your will.
You decide that somethign must be a certain way due to your misunderstanding of evolution and biology, then look at the world and when you see something that contradicts your idea you call it degenerate.
>that woman doesn't fit into my idea of how women should have evolved to be! What a slut, it must be the marxists fault
When the rational attitude would be to observe the world and adapt our ideas to reality.

We have entire culture, political, religious, moral, and social systems all dedicated, for thousands of years, to suppress some aspets of our exuality, like cheating, extrmarital and premarital relationships, cuckoldry like you call it, and anything that doesn't fit into the narrow scheme of a married couple or quintet in the case of muslims, having sex only with each other in order to have children.
And it never worked, People got killed, still gets killed over it and even the risk of death doesn't stop them, and you know why? Because we've evolved to be tht way, it's our biological nature.

>>50232767
>And it never worked
The fact that our libertine culture results in shoddy birth rates to the point where politicians are actively displacing the native population to keep the welfare state going, and the fact that the conservatively religious still outbreed the liberally religious who in turn outbreed the irreligious, shows that the system works. It's not foolproof, but it's entirely possible and indeed desirable to supress human nature. After all, that's what culture is at its very core: the dominance of the humane/rational over the natural/beastly. What's failing is the cognitive dissonance we've all learned to ignore: culture is good, but at the same time repressing your most beastly inhibitions is bad.

>>50223480
A charm person spell is alright, rolling to seduce is shit.

>>50225488
because you live in a shitty country

I usually rule it something like this
*party is in a tavern after adventuring, bard says he want's to seduce some barfly or serving girl* Yeah sure man, roll for it. he rolls, yeah okay, you get a date for the night, good looking girl, really fills out the peasant dress. status: Aokay!

Party is in the middle of talking to the elf queen/ a ladyknight general/ the high sorceress. Bard say he rolls to seduce, i treat it like any other diplomacy with maybe good maybe bad outcomes, like is the elf king sitting three feet away getting pissed at you macking on his wife? or if you fuck this up ladyknight general might tell you to get the hell out of her command post and there goes your help from the army, good job bard. If he does pass they're flattered and maybe a bit flustered, maybe later on it comes back up for good or ill (Elf king didn't mind you flattering his wife, infact how do you feel about threesomes eeeh?) but no your nat 20 does not mean the baroness sucks your dick right there at the royal ball. Satus: okay lets see what happens.

Bard says he wants to roll to seduce the dragon/ necromancer witch/ gnoll barbarian they're facing down. Satus: Fuck you. no

>>50225637
Small touches like "tens of thousands of years" and "semen cells" are a reliable signal that your expertise is about as deep as Wikipedia at best. Thanks for that. I know you need not be taken seriously.

But seriously, have some necessary edification.
1. "Evolutionarily speaking" is a meaningless phrase. Methinks you can't actually define evolution.
2. Impregnating many women inly increases an individual's number of offspring if offspring survivorship is as high as a male that cares for fewer offspring.
3. Your model assumes that a given female is alone and living in a cave or something, and therefore bereft of familial support so she has to be "stingy with her pussy." Did you ever consider that females "need" (as you imply) to propagate their genes too? And there is an indirect benefit for any family members?

tl;dr it's not as easy as "duh evolution cuz men can fuk moar"

>>50223732
It's entirely true.
Some games advocate for such rolls.
WoD, for instance, works very much on the player also dealing with social-fu from npcs as much as the other way around, and I've had players casually roll seduction type rolls against each other and play out the effects straight.

>>50233254
This guy is right

>>50228712
>banging a succubus
But Caaaaarl, that kills people!

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>>50233618
That's obviously where the seduction roll comes in. Convincing a succubutt to have sex with you is like convincing an American to eat a burger you'll give him for free, but convincing one to have sex with you and not eat your soul takes skill.

>>50233618
Not unless you're too low level

>>50228889
>The bard dons a cloak over himself as he drops carries a basket wrapped in silk cloth to the religious orphanage in town
>Checking left and right to make sure no one is watching, he knocks on the door and takes off
>A nun on duty opens the door expecting a visitor, only looking down to see a basket and sighs, taking it inside.
>"Who was it Sister Mary?" asks another nun nearby.
>"Someone abandoning a poor unwanted child to our church it seems. Poor child, may Pelor have mercy on him." she says as she unwraps the cloth to see if the baby is healthy.
>The baby is thousands of spiders.

>>50234069
All you gotta do is convince them that you're good enough to be worth keeping around for multiple rounds.

Like cooking out of need for food and cooking because something is fun to make and/or delicious.

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>>50234127
Even if you're high enough level to survive the level drain, you'll still be screwed over by the loss of levels, and probably end up dead in short order.
Pic sort-of related, since that's pretty much what happens in the doujin (except the gy doesn't end up dead, just enslaved by the succubi).

>>50234223
>Like cooking out of need for food and cooking because something is fun to make and/or delicious.
You still eat them both in the end

>>50234236
>Pic sort-of related, since that's pretty much what happens in the doujin (except the gy doesn't end up dead, just enslaved by the succubi).
Didn't the author do a sequel where it was confirmed they end up draining him completely?
Or am I thinking of something else?

>>50223480
Certain systems like apocalypse world have it as an integral part of the game. But in others it could be incredibly useful as a cha character if your gm is down with that. It really depends on the gm.

>>50225488
Because usually, it's a guy playing that character and it comes across as just an excuse to show off his character's imaginary tits. It feels skeezy. When a girl does that with her character though, it usually feels less skeezy (unless said girl is also doing it to show off her character's imaginary tits). Generally though, if it feels in-character and said character doesn't come off as creepy on its own (manipulative rogue, bitchy fighter who gets talked into it by the otherwise male party, etc.), then it's fine and most people won't care.

I'll admit though, I tend to be against that sort of stuff not necessarily cause it's creepy (although if it is then there's also that), but because I'm weird and feel like I've somehow failed since the woman in the party had to expose herself like that. I'm not a white knight, I swear, I'm not like that IRL or when said character is kinda slutty in the first place. But if the character is fairly normal and goes for that or something similar like sleeping with a noble to get us on his good side, my first instinct is to go "Wait, we can do this another way, you don't have to do that".

Maybe it has something to do with me playing Dudley Do-Good LG paladin-y type characters a lot.

>>50225740
>The other, since players are usually male, just comes off as fetishy, even if it actually isn't.

This is a side note, but I hate how /tg/ likes to use the term "fetishy" when it really doesn't apply. Showing off your tits isn't fetishy, it's just sleezy. Now if she came up in tight leather carrying a whip and telling the guard he's been a bad boy and needs to be punished, -that- would be fetishy. And also really weird.

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>>50232096
The best way to fug succubutts is to do so as a Paladin with the intention of redeeming them.

https://exhentai.org/g/527421/e673bd3846/

>>50232419
>>50233618
Actually, fun fact, being intimate with a succubus just give you negative levels. If you have some way of resisting or ignoring negative levels, you're fine. If not, well, either be high-level or finish really quick.

>>50234236
I don't think it's actually level drain, is it? IIRC it's just negative levels, which is temporary and can be healed instantly with certain spells.

>>50232371
>you get a bonus! And you get a bonus! And you get a bonus! And you... Don't.
>not an actual penalty

>>50234565
>>50234589
if you're playing D&D, in different systems the effect could be different

>>50234236

gief source

>>50234565
>Gotta keep your HD in mind when you fug your succubutt waifu, it limits how long you can be intimate with her

>>50234277
>You still eat them both in the end
If there's enough time between the drainings, you might be able to recover in between them. Like how donating blood is harmless, aside from making you feel woozy for a while, but loosing all your blood at once kills you. Of course, that's still relying on a literal embodiment of chaotic evil to not show enough restraint to not eat your soul all at once because it's yummy.

>Didn't the author do a sequel where it was confirmed they end up draining him completely?
I didn't know there was a sequel, so I have no idea.

>>50225383
I find dice rolling for those situations to be incredibly unengaging.

"Hah, I rolled an 28 with my bonuses on my Diplomacy check. Does this Barbarian chieftain agree with me now?"

Versus

>Player 1: "I'm going to tell him that this trespassing, spies thing is all a misunderstanding."
>DM: "The chieftain frowns and replies that ignorance from the law is no excuse."
>Player 2: "Hey DM, don't barbarians care about debts and honor?"
>DM: "Yeah."
>Player 2: "How about we tell him that if he let's us pass, we will be indebted to him and that we can iron out some sort of contract."
>Player 1: "That's a good plan. So, what does the chieftain think of it?"
>DM: "The chieftain strokes his beard and ponders it, but ultimately agrees. He wants you to complete three tasks for him at some point in the next year to satisfy your debt."

The latter is a much more interactive experience. And it can conclude in a die roll if the Players and DM can't come to an agreement about what would work.

>>50234565
Other systems do different stuff.

In Anima, for example, you're technically not at any risk of dying to a succbus if your resistances are high, because they'll never be able to actually eat your soul during sex without getting an open roll.

Any GM willing to keep trying to have sex with you in-character just so that they can roll 90+ on their d100 (and at higher levels, MULTIPLE TIMES SEQUENTIALLY) clearly has some issues to work out anyway, or is taking "show 'em a good time" a little too literally.

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>>50223671
>i've had bards fuck their way past enemies before

oh? do tell.

>>50234634
>>50234734
Of course. I just kinda assumed DnD cause that's normally what people are referring to when they bring up succubi.

>>50234684
Pretty much. I'll bet you there's probably an adventurous bard somewhere out there who's tried to bang a succubus and survive by being a two-pump chump. Succubi must hate adventurers like that.

And then there's probably the adventurers who didn't even know they were sleeping with a succubus. They just finish quick and go back to their party, leaving the succubus frustrated in more ways than one.

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>>50234641
Sorry, I can't for the life of me remember the name, other than it was pretty long and didn't really have much to do with the content. The creator was called Aka...something, I think.

I just saved the three pages where the succubus gets BTFO'd by the hero. After that it turns into a pretty generic doujin where the hero fucks two succubi, and in the end becomes too weak to fight them and gets enslaved by them.
There's also a scene where one of the succubi eats a random kid, which really serves no point.

>>50235009
>And then there's probably the adventurers who didn't even know they were sleeping with a succubus. They just finish quick and go back to their party, leaving the succubus frustrated in more ways than one.
Dammit. Now I need to write a recurring NPC into my next campaign.

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Huh, a thread where i can post this.

>>50224709
I had this weird group with this one dude, always wearing a fucking hood, but he was an amazing roleplayer. If he was told to roleplay what he did, and it involved any kind of seduction, his (usually) female characters made him go full on girl, reveal his long hair, and then turn up the charm to the max.

Dude could seduce literally any guy he wanted, and actually turned girls OFF with how weirdly in-the-middle he was.

He never tried actually getting into anybodys pants, so I never figured out if he was actually gay or not. And the one time a chick asked him, he just smiled and shrugged, saying "not really".

>>50232759
2d4+1

>>50235582
I'm straighter than a board, but am still much more comfortable trying to roleplay seduction from a female's perspective than a male's, regardless of what I'm trying to seduce.

I couldn't fully explain why. Perhaps it's because I'm more aware of what I'd want in a female as opposed to what a female would want in a male they just met? Perhaps I'm just more comfortable roleplaying something that I'm not? Perhaps I find it kinky and haven't fully realized that? Dunno. Don't particularly care.

Had this odd thing happen once.

I was GMing for a group of 3 guys and a girl. The girl had made a orphan - turned bard, that the other 3, all nobles, kept as a sort of "muse" (because bards are super fucking useful, and she sang songs of their great deeds)

They had to enter a royal gathering - by drawing on some of their contacts and favours, 2 of the 3 nobles got in - the bard had no way of getting in, charms alone wouldn't do it.

Then, as I was describing a bunch of NPCs joining the gathering, she, having at least washed up and bought a nice dress, decides to throw herself at a random guy who showed up alone. She rolled well, and generally roleplayer it nicely, so she was taken in as the "date".

Only this guy was the BBEG. He wasn't a raving lunatic, and the party was, at this point, a group of nobodies he had never heard about. I wasn't entirely sure how I would play this out, so I just tried making it go as natural as possible.

It was one of the few times where I had a party manage to roleplay it completely around, turning what should have been a completely nihilist plan on bringing down society in this country, to him bringing down the entire social structure, only to take the blame, and "let the party rise to lead the people in a new age" - sort of thing.

She became his "Right hand" and ended up taking the fall with him. It was probably one of the best campaigns I've ever GMed, if only because the players were just fantastic roleplayers.

>>50235763
>Perhaps I'm just more comfortable roleplaying something that I'm not?
This, more likely.

I have had it way easier playing something I am clearly not, compared to playing "me in a fantasy setting". I am just far too self-conscious when I play as a character who is basically just myself, where I don't give a shit, and can go full ham with the roleplay when I am someone completely different.

>>50234236
>>50235036
>such wasted potential

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>>50234223
All this food metaphore makes me think of a character who convinces the succubus to not eat his soul by coking a so good meal she can't bear to kill him and never taste anything that good again.

We've all heard of redeeming the succubutt through lawful good dickins, but what about redemption through home-cooked meals prepared with love and care?

>>50232335
shucks i was found out

>>50223480

It depends on the game

>>50238772
Chubbybuss only got that fat from souls anon
>YFW she reveals one day the reason she loves your cooking is that you put your heart and soul into it, with a worrying emphasis on the latter part

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>>50238772
>Says lawful good dickins
>Passes up a chance to say awful good chickens
NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING

>>50235763
It's because you're secure in your masculinity. You aren't afraid of someone thinking you're a fag, because you're a fucking man and you know it.

>>50239001
>YFW she reveals one day the reason she loves your cooking is that you put your heart and soul into it, with a worrying emphasis on the latter part
The implication is that "putting your heart and soul" into making something literally imbued it with a part of your soul, and that demons can feed on such objects in addition to just killing you and eating your soul. That'd actually be a pretty neat setting detail.

Also, since cooking clearly isn't killing me and it keeps cubcubus-waifu satisfied, this seems like a win-win situation.

>>50239498
>Also, since cooking clearly isn't killing me
Not immidiatly

But seriously,
>The implication is that "putting your heart and soul" into making something literally imbued it with a part of your soul, and that demons can feed on such objects in addition to just killing you and eating your soul. That'd actually be a pretty neat setting detail.
I thought that was canon for D&D, that's what the xp costs for item creation represented, or at least I always assumed given that the only things that reduce current XP/level are almost always things that strike right at the soul

>>50223480

If the giantess is leaning over flashing her clevage at me while blushing, I think I have a fair chance at seduction.

>>50239656
Think you can pull off what comes after?

>>50225637
>Women are attracted to womanizers (they even have an active preference for men who are already married), men aren't attracted to sluts
Scuse me but I'd like a girl who knows what the hell she's doing.

>>50238772
Is it pregnant or just fat?

>>50239805
Judging by the pudge on her arms and thighs, she's just fat.

>>50239656
Technically I think the giant is rolling to seduce.

>>50240356
>Giantess rolls to seduce your PC, wat do?

>>50223897
It's the only thing you could really do in that situation desu senpai

>>50223480
>roll to seduce
>then roll to stab in dick

Typical rogue behavior. Works every time, a fraction of the time.

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>>50240581
You can just sit there quietly and wait for the reveal.

>>50240603
Fuck

I know someone asked for the nane of that name a day ago but I forgot to write with down

Could I please have sauce?

>>50225488
Isn't it the other way around though? Most of the complaints I hear on /tg/ are about "Casanovas" who insist on fucking every bar wench while tittering like a school girl as if it is the first time they've been out of their parents sight for more than a minute.

Unless it's some guy playing a chick who insists every lewd encounter is described to the party in detail, I don't really see many complaints about doing the tiddy flash thing.

>>50240356
If you look closely, you can see a music note close to the regular sized person. Looks like it is working on her.

>>50239124
Or he could have rather low confidence in his ability to understand and relate to a person of the other gender's wants and needs and sexual cues, and feels that playing a male seduction attempt like him trying to seduce someone as himself, And so he plays females to distance himself from that?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be captain Killjoy or be insulting, but this is 4chan. Most people here are at least some ways black sheep, even if they never quite reach /r9k/ levels.

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>>50240630
[Nanashi] Yupiel-sama no Geboku

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>>50241137

>>50239681

I'm pretty sure death by Snu-snu still gets you into Valhalla.

>>50241195
CARNAL COMBAT

DOOT DOOT DOOT DoDODOOTDOOT DOOT
FUCK!

>>50234069
Why is she wearing Ms Fortune's (Skullgirls, not LoL) collar?

>>50242436
Disgaea succubi predate Skullgirls by quite a bit.

>>50241815
Keked

>>50242436
Because almost anything and everything in Skullgirls is a reference or a meme.

That's not inherently bad, but you'd be hard-pressed to find SOMETHING that couldn't be considered to be a reference or a joke or a meme of some sort.

>>50232138
>But I'm not joining your religion
That's what they all say until they're bleeding on the floor while I tell them in great detail how horrific my God's version of Hell is, and how demons from other Hells don't go there because, "it's a bad neighborhood."

Then, they suddenly see the light and recite the proper prayer.

>>50234159
The Bard was a pretty good father figure. He bragged about his sexual conquests, but we were never really sure if he was telling the truth from his constant failures with women. Still, he would always insist that random monsters were, in fact, his bastards from that one time he shacked up with a <random monster>. He would call them by name, apologize for not being a part of their life, and offer to play catch with them. It only worked on a giant lobster. We were supposed to kill it, but we ended up throwing a ball back and forth talking about how to be a man.

Has something... sorta like this in a game.
There was a running joke that the so-honorable-it-hurts Paladin's father was a great and beloved hero about twentyfive years back before settling down, but was rumored that he had a great weakness for attractive women. This was of course just a rumor, his son would hear none of it, simply an embellishment of the bard's tales.

Yet in most every town or city they would meet a strapping young man or woman, about 26 years old with suspiciously familiar features and bright red hair just like the Paladin and his father.

And the paladin NEVER noticed anything strange.

Was a high cha low wis sorta guy ya know what i mean?

>>50233402
> 1. "Evolutionarily speaking" is a meaningless phrase. Methinks you can't actually define evolution.
Not a counterargument. If one wants to preserve his genes, having a large number of offspring gives an advantage, no matter how the sentence is written.

> 2. Impregnating many women inly increases an individual's number of offspring if offspring survivorship is as high as a male that cares for fewer offspring.
Women are naturally polygamous, and successful men can provide for more than one woman. Even in France (european decent), having an affair is far from the end of the world as long as it doesn't interfere with resources. One doesn't preclude the other.

> 3. Your model assumes that a given female is alone and living in a cave or something, and therefore bereft of familial support so she has to be "stingy with her pussy." Did you ever consider that females "need" (as you imply) to propagate their genes too? And there is an indirect benefit for any family members?
Having childs without a father and mooching resources from brothers / sisters and other family members prevent THEM from having as many childs as they can, and in the end, is more harmful than helpful.

All those words, and nothing of worth.

>>50233402
>Methinks
Are you trying to out-cunt him?

>>50235036
How disappointing, I'd love some hero beating the fuck out of more monsters really

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>>50240507
become unstoppable

>>50245704
I don't see how that follows, explain

>>50245924
I'm not that guy, but conquering the world with your giant qt gf seems straightforward to me.

>>50223480
Depends on the tone of the game. If it's a cheesy pulpy game and done in a highjinks sort of way to trick someone, then sure.

>>50232246
Power Word: Flirt

>>50223480
Social encouner where you meet other people and are approaching the thema in a non creepy way, following ettiquette and showing some social grace.

But NAH that's for posh white people.
We gotta go bestial and twerk dat ass.

>>50228712
>he was a Satyr Bard based based loosely on Captain Kirk/Zapp Brannigan.
> he had an insanely high modifiers to social checks.
>Zapp Brannigan
>Succeeding any social check ever
>Kirk I'll give you
>But Zapp?

>>50232759
To more accurately represent probability you should roll 3d6 and instead of taking the result directlu (as CM or inches or whatever), compared them to a table that cross reference the result with more common penis sizes. Modifiers per nation optional.

For instance, rolling a 10 would land you right on the middle of the more common average of 5.8 inches, with 11 landing you on the high average of 61. inches and and 9 landing you on the low average of 5.5, etc...

This chart would not allow for uber huge penises (anything above 9 inches), since they are statistically irrelevant, but an option is to allow anyone who roll a solid 18 to roll an extra d6 is a 'well hung' chart that allows one be sorted among the larger sizes.

Similarly, below 3 inches, if you want to get specific about micropenis sizes, the same could be done with a 1.

>>50223480

Yes, two female PCs were competing to seduce a Sultan after an arena battle, where they killed his previous favorite. Of course, the male PCs were freeing the prisoners while they were doing it, but the girls really got into it.

They eventually married that guy.

>>50223897
we hunted a vampire prostitute once. Our gnome wizard was to get her alone in a room and play bait, while we waited to strike. We kept watching after the gnome gave his sign, because the scene was kind of hot - the players agreed their characters would find that to be true too.

So, in the end, we had a new vampire gnome in our group. He died and got better later on. Still never really forgave us for watching him be fang-banged.

>Be a Cleric to a fertility goddess.
>Use to be in the military.
>Hit on random girls on the streets.
>Run into an aryan elf.
>Hit on her and hit off.
>Actually meet her parents.
>Big buff Human General and a power spellcasting milf elf.
>Character goes into big oh shit moment.
>When introducing my character to her father he spits into my character's mouth, and my character chokes taking literal 6 damage.

Aryan Elf pussy is maybe worth it /tg/.

>>50246401
She's seducing you, not the other way around

>>50223480

Yes. There was an urban-fantasy game where one of the PCs (All the PCs, in fact) were holy knights. One of the PCs had a lot of sexual tension with a vampiress, and they were having a duel to the death where both of them were trying to convert the other.

It was like a 50-50 chance whether she'd go for it or not, and he won the roll. They pretty much made out right there.

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>>50248173
>He spits hard enough to kill a level 1 commoner

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>>50248453
That only tells us one thing...

The general doesn't swallow.

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>>50245924

>>50239805
Healthiness.

>>50234752
>Perform (Erotic) to inspire competence on stealth checks
Sneakily and literally fuck your way past enemies. Just gotta shuffle forward while having sex.

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>>50239805
That's pretty obviously fat. With pregnancy the belly usually stick out a lot more and and is firmer looking.

Plus I've seen another picture of the same character somewhere, from a different angle, and from that it was very obvious she's just chubby.

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>>50231195
>I don't see any issues
It depends on the monster but the point is you're not necessarily any less likely to die.

It's never appropriate for players to roll to seduce.

They should have to roleplay to seduce instead

>>50253455
This

Rolling instead of roleplaying is dumb.
>that one guy that rolls for "persuasion", gets a 20, and then asks the trader to sell him his prized family heirloom for 2 gold.
>gets mad that he doesn't do it because muh roll

>>50253455
>>50253567
>asking a bona fide neckbeard to roleplay how he'd seduce a woman.

>>50253603
Entertainment, if I ever DM I'll probably do that. If only to subtly give my players hints and tips that will help them out irl.

>>50253648
>Hitch DMs a campaign

Ay bb u wan sum fuk?

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>>50253663
Funny thing is I'm black too.

>>50253417
>you're not necessarily any less likely to die.
As if that's not a worthy death anon

>>50253417
I can't think of a better way to go though

>>50225874

>Implying males wouldn't feel their pride hurt and refuse to cooperate with a slut.
>Implying males wouldn't gtfo as soon as they feel like someone else had to deal with the responsibilities, like her plan b

>>50239079
this made my day.

>>50225874
Lol, what fucking dude would stick around if there were already several other guys and you didn't know if the child is yours?

I know I fucking wouldn't.

>>50247909
>The high average of 61 inches

Shit...

>>50255074
Anon back in the past people weren't that bright about genetics and all that.

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>>50223480
> are there times when it's appropriate to do this?
Sometimes.

>>50255074
Because it might actually be your child, you dingus.

>>50247909
Ladies and gentleman, GURPS.

>>50255344
that was one strange doujin
>inb4 sauce
Don't recall the name but "kangaroo" tag should not be all that common, right?

>>50257424
>Kangaroo
Oh... that explains the weird proportions...
and the leg thing I'm just noticing now.

The only real way to win a seduction check when you're asked to describe it is by being over the top.

>How do you seduce the X?
>I whip my abnormally large cock out an spin it around like a propeller releasing my mating pheromones
>It's my character's special trait

>>50223480
The only time it's ever come up for me was as a joke in one of the first campaigns I was in.

I said it off handedly as a joke the GM

His response was "No you said it, roll for it."

Nat. 20

Things only went downhill from there, with more and more seduction rolls, and my character henceforth became "The Sexy Ranger"

>>50257424
Was thinking the artist was just very bad at draw catgirls

>>50260270
Tell me more, anon.

>>50260465
>bad
It looks fine to me, mate. It's not like exaggerated proportions aren't a thing in hentai, and besides, it's pretty sexy.

>>50225637
speak for yourself faggot

>>50260620
'Kay

Little bit of background: It was around 2011 and I had gone through about 6 one-shots, most off them being Pathfinder, but hadn't actually done a full fledged campaign as the general group I was in had about 6 campaigns going on that were full.

This had been the case for a few other freshmen besides myself and one of us decided that he would run a Pathfinder campaign as it was the closest the D&D we could get at the time.

The group gets formed and people start creating characters, I decide to create a Ranger as no one had made a scout orientated character.

After a few sessions of some pre-printed adventures we'd found ourselves in a cave that had been infested with goblins that had taken treasure and a few village girls with them. At the prospect of getting some treasure, and some pune in the case of our man-whore cleric, our party embarked. Being the only scout in our group I was tasked with searching out the cave system and making a rough map for the party. This, as you can imagine goes swimmingly.

As I skulled my way around the system I was pounced upon by a great she-bugbear.

>"The Bugbear pins you to the ground and turns you over to look at her great maw that is curled into a sinister smile. What do you do?"

>"I roll to seduce. lol. No actually-"

>"Nope you said it roll for it!"

After much giggles from the party, and prodding form the fighter I roll.

>Natural 20

The DM looks at the dice and says.

>"Bullshit roll that again"

In his defense the die had landed behind a few objects and I picked up the die before telling him the result.

>Once again a Nat. 20

The entire party bursts out laughing and the fighter says in between coughs.

>Fighter: "I just picture the Bugbear turning him over and seeing bishie sparkles as she looks into his eyes"

>"Yes that is exactly what happens"

The entire group laughs even harder and at this point I decide "Fuck it I'll run this joke to the ground"

>>50261017
>Me: "She is distracted by my beauty I pull a lute from my bag and begin serenading her."

>DM: "That's going to be another seduction check for you."

>Nat. 20

>DM: "Are you fucking kidding me? Shit. As you serenade the Bugbear begins ripping your clothes off."

>Me: *Picks up a d20* "Lets do this."

>DM: "God dammit, roll me a strength check."

>Nat. 20

The laughter at this point has lead to several coughing fits.

>DM: "What the fuck man you never roll this well in combat."

>Me: "I know right?"

And after several hours I returned to the party wearing naught but a pair of pants and completed map.

Thus ends the first tale of the Sexy Ranger. If you want more let me know.

Rolled 2 (1d20)

>Nobody has rolled to seduce op

>>50232164
>Because we as a society are afraid of female sexuality.
Ahahahahahaha. Is this what you actually believe?

>>50261037
Because OP is a faggot anon.

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>>50238772
Everyone knows this is the true way to redeem succubi.

>>50261024
>>50261017
There is a 0,000625% chance that that can happen, so I'm going to call bullshit.

>>50261270
Understandable, I wouldn't believe me either honestly but such is life.

>>50238772
the only way to redeem a succubus or any monster really is though decapitation

>>50261270
I will call bullshit too, but in anon's defense the inherent nature of probability doesn't automatically disprove that story.

>>50261702
Have you tried anything else?

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>>50223554
Sexual shit has no place in the table, unless every single one of the players, along with the DM is a-ok with it.
If you bring that shit in without the above being true, you are the definition of a That Guy.

I for one, will never be ok with sexual shite in tt.
There is a time and place for everything, and tabletop gaming is certainly not appropriate context for your sexual fantasies.

>>50234159
I love this, I need to draw it

>>50228626
You're thinking about this the wrong way. It isn't about the player's skill, it's about justifying what they're doing. If a player is trying to roll Stealth, I expect them to say how or where they're trying to hide. They can't just roll a 20 and be in stealth, but they also don't need to play a round of hide and seek. All it takes is saying 'I hide in the barrels' or 'I hide in the corner', since that might alter things if the barrels are full or if the person was there to pick up the barrels.

Similarly, if somebody wants to disguise themselves, I expect them to say what they're trying to disguise themselves as, since that might have different outcomes.

Same thing with social skills. You don't have to make a grand speech, you just have to explain what sort of lie you're making or what sort of promise you're giving. If you distract a guard, just say if you're either taking over his shift or telling him there's a fire. If you're trying to convince a king of a plan, point out a way it benefits him. Because again, the method can influence the outcome.

>>50223856
>sex is bad
You didn't understand the post you're referencing, did you?

>>50261024
So what happened with the bugbear lady after that?

>>50262479
As I said that's perfectly understandable, but it lead to a hot streak that lasted for months but my luck was never applicable in combat.

>>50266499
The party had made it a point that they wanted to pass the Bugbear lady and the last we ever saw of her was she was curled into a corner of the cave wrapped in a fur blanket. They'd tried ask what had happened in character and my response was "Don't worry about it."

This was what lead to me being the party face in every situation. I'd actually ended up bagging more of... everything... than even the Bard of the group purely because of dice rolls.

>>50261050
>slut shaming
>victim blaming
are you retarded? do you also believe we societally are not afraid of men expressing sensitivity?

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>>50261270
Its possible, I've rolled about the same ridiculously low percentage chance to make consecutive rolles, only the exact opposite.

Quite frankly it's earned me a moniker at my LGS, they call me "Ichiban san"

> playing footdar army vs orks
> maugan ra's shooting comes round, 4 shuriken cannon shots into a group of nobs
> quad 1s
> I had guide cast on him, so I try again.
> another double snake eyes
>miss all 8 shots which needed 2s to hit.

>>50267220
I wouldn't call that fear. It's more like fatigue at this point.

>>50247909
The groundwork for that has already been done by FATAL

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in our group of 4 PC and a DM in a 3.5 campaign, we have this grill playing a elf rogue.

we came to this town and needed escorted through this terrible chasm but had no cash. so she offered to fuck one of the guards if he'd get us through.

she did him behind the inn, then he went back to his post and did nothing.

>>50223480
When appropriate, yes

>>50264171
>Sexual shit has no place in the table, unless every single one of the players, along with the DM is a-ok with it.
In other words, sexual fantasies have a place at the table if everyone IS a-ok with it. You then follow this with:
>There is a time and place for everything, and tabletop gaming is certainly not appropriate context for your sexual fantasies.

These two strong statements you've made don't seem to agree with each other.

>>50272264
>These two strong statements you've made don't seem to agree with each other.
The "NO SEX IN GAMES EVER" guys almost never think their positions through

>>50253567
well, if the storyteller does allow rolls or static modifiers to apply, all social traits are shit.

Worse if the storyteller asks for roleplay AND a roll. "Oh, great job talking for 30 minutes, too bad you only rolled a 16, so you fail convincing him."

>>50223480
Look at your pic, anon.
That is a good time to roll to seduce.

>>50275148
My character IS but the guy seems oblivious to her enticements!

>>50274911
Do you have problems with reading?
The first statement is about how everyone needs to be ok with that shit for it to be appropriate for the game.
The second is about how I will never be OK with that shit, thus no game I am involved with should ever have sexual shite in it.

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>>50268271
>she did him behind the inn, then he went back to his post and did nothing.

>>50272264
I think I get what--
>>50264171
--is saying
>Sexual shit has no place in the table, unless every single one of the players, along with the DM is a-ok with it.
>If you bring that shit in without the above being true, you are the definition of a That Guy.

>I for one, will never be ok with sexual shite in tt.
>There is a time and place for everything, and tabletop gaming is certainly not appropriate context for your sexual fantasies.

Paragraph 1 is his academic belief regarding the conduct of other groups

Paragraph 2 is his personal opinion and stance at his table

>>50255074
Read origin of the family for fuck sake. I hate listening to /tg/ run their mouths about sexuality and shit when its obvious they don't have a fucking clue.

>>50223480
If you're dealing with a Warhammer vampire, infatuation or love are the best routes to getting vamped.

>>50232759
1d8+2.

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>>50241137
Sweet Jesus

>>50280326
The guy also did "Suzuka-sama no geboku", I think, and another one. He's basically the master of smug loli porn.

>>50240603
>Small tits without total flatness
>Actual femdom instead of 2 pages followed by maledom
>Non-gory snuff
>Attractive male lead
>Cute ending
Is this the perfect hentai?

>>50281109
Yes

>>50281109
>Small tits
>Perfect

>>50281248
Found the plebeian.

>>50248275
>giantess tries to impress PC with her strength
>by conquering the world
>becomes BBEG in a misguided attempt at seduction

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>>50280726
>and another one.
Did you forget the best worst girl?

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>>50223480
Of course there are.