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Pathfinder General /pfg/

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

What have your experiences with succubi been like? Have you ever played the DSP succubus monster class?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Kineticists of Porphyra IV: End of an Era playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XTgiUdDSrTCvATEDeDJ4MnbDgS6KEBLu2e9mjj5fwaw/edit
Broken Shackles Playtest: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/59701/broken-shackles-test-play
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#
Avowed Playtest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg

Old thread: >>50210479
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>>50218619

Looking for advice on gimmicky but effective CRB-only (+ traits) builds, specifically arcane casters.

Or I guess paladins if the above isn't possible.
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Full review!

Diving into the nitty gritty of Everyman's Unchained Fighter.

Pros
+ 4+Int Skill points
+Weapon training buffed, given to you at level 1 and grants you profiecency in everything in your first weapon group. Including Exotic weapons (Bastard swords are worth it now!)
+ Every single ability that Fighters already have, they keep. (Bravery, bonus feats, Weapon/Armor Training)
+ Stamina, Advanced Weapon Training, Advanced Armor Training are given to you for free.
+Expanded AWT and AAT option lists.
+Expanded uses for Stamina Including two class features (Spend stamina for Temp HP up to a max of damage taken, Spend stamina for Martial Flexibility)
+Capstone is no longer one weapon but your chosen weapon group.
+ Several archetypes are updated to take changes to base class into account
+Decent feats with a few ROFLWTF options (Vital strike on a charge!? with added multiplication on ever 5 over target AC!?!? NANI DESU KA!?)

Cons
-Several of the new weapon/armor training abilites are flat out stolen from other classes(Precise strike and Resolve to name a couple), and a few options have wording that makes you do a double take.
-Needed another editing pass before release, (More than a couple noticible copy pastes in the feats section. )
-The Art in the book isn't too good.
-The Racial Weapon group Feats seem a tad redundant what with the weapon group options already in place.

Over all 7-8 out of 10.

Stamina management is very important, Fighters can get very powerful with a savvy builder at the helm.
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>>50218711
Enjoy your theme park setting.
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>>50218802
Post it up.
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>>50218802
Anon, we're going to accuse you of being a shill if you don't at least dump screen shots
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>>50219026
>>50219230

Oh right, yeah gimme a sec
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>>50219321

Fuck it here's teh whole thing, Just support the official release. Or download it yourself and host it elsewhere.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0rOJKO2u66CN1VKVmRYVXZJUUk
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>>50219416
Evan, you might be new here, but we don't support Agunas because we like to kinkshame and he very well might be a pedophile.
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>>50219428
Also because he's a sick fuck that even makes other furries sick with his magical realm

MUH PANTHER RAPING YOU AND TURNING YOU INTO A HAWT CHESTY BABE
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>>50219428
>>50219444
The mechanics seem solid enough. Frankly i don't give a shit if his fetish is using children as a condom to fuck priests.
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>>50219537
thats great but everyone else does, his writing is also lazy and sucks

fuck off no
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>>50219537
Agunas internet defense force please leave.
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>>50219547
>>50219635
>>50219428
>>50219444

Yesh, yeah, if that's gonna be how shits gonna go down, someone else can upload it.

I have a sinking feeling if i keep it up I'm gonna get my identity stolen.
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>>50219737
>Not having a throwaway google account solely for interacting with the 4chinz

Total baka desu senpai
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>>50219772
Well, the issue is little Evan put his name on the document.
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Welp so much for wanting to help random people on the internet. Cya when i end up killing myself due to hitting rock bottom.
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Which adventure paths should I look at if I want to run for my players something with less of focus on combat and more on intrigue?
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>>50219933
You did good anon.

You just had really bad luck with the crowd.
Removing it if it had your name on it was probably smart, though.
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>>50218802

So in the interest of not being a shill, but also not being a total fuck up by releasing my watermarked copy to the teeming masses of the internet (anymore than it already has been.).

Here's a few screen shots. Was gonna do this originally, but i decided it was gonna take too fucking long.
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>>50220005
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>>50219428
>>50219444
>>50219547
>>50219635

Monthly reminder that Augunas wrote
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nx-o8VAjhUwh3nnfzDQT-JA5eFLnN_BZJiBitGjBMDg/edit?usp=sharing
which even pfg links to GMs as advice often
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>>50220011
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>>50220015
his advice is much better than his actual written rules which are consistently crappy
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>>50220036
I haven't read any of his written rules but just saying that mechanics should be evaluated on their own merit. Call the writer a shit after you read over his stuff, not before.
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>>50220067
i've read his stuff before and this shows no signs of being better

dude can't write decent rules, and he can't help but magical realm
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>>50220073

I didn't see any signs of magical realm... except the hilariously bad art maybe.
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>>50220121
quite literally the magical realm
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>>50220121
>>50220028

here's the class by itself in text only format via copy paste in a horrible format.
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>>50220121
>>50220128

If Augunas isn't a furry than why does his fursona show up in almost every piece of art?
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>>50220165
thats what i'm saying. The guy can't control himself from showing furries in EVERY PIECE OF ART FOR HIS BOOKS

Anyone got the one with a shrunken furry in a jar of piss?
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>>50220121
Oh my fucking god that tiger has two right hands.
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>>50220195
no its actually drawn correctly if its supposed to be a Rakshasa
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>>50220195

Been waiting for a while to use this one
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>>50220195
It's a Rakasha they have backwards hands, that is their telltale sign.
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>>50220165
>>50220178
To be fair, that's possibly more Blackmon's fault than Augunas. It's not quite clear what the blame ratio is on that.
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>>50220195

Doesn't hold a candle to Nerdy Captain America.
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>>50220178

It's more severe than that, anon.

I'm saying he's not just a furry, he's a furry with a fursona he insists is not his fursona. Don't believe me? Look at how often that red-haired fox shows up all prominent in his stuff.
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>>50220249
ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT STEAL
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>>50218735
Anyone?
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>>50220259
oh i'm more than aware.
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>>50220266
Instructor wizard or exploiter Wizard.
But really you need to specify what you want your gimmick to be.
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>>50220249

Now before i go to work, I'm gonna leave you guys with something that i thought was a tad too much.

Charging Momentum (Weapon Mastery)
You use the momentum of your charge to deal devastating damage to your opponents.
Prerequisites: Str 13, Vital Strike, fighter level 5th, weapon training with a melee weapon.
Benefit: Whenever you charge an opponent and make a single melee attack at the end of your charge, you can attempt to strike with devastating force. You can apply the Vital Strike feat to this attack. You can apply the Improved Vital Strike or Greater Vital Strike feat to your charge instead if you have either of those feats. In addition to those feats usual effects, for every 5 by which your charging attack roll exceeds the target’s Armor Class, increase the number of times that you roll your weapon’s damage dice with the Vital Strike, Improved Vital Strike, or Greater Vital Strike feats by 1, up to a maximum number of additional rolls equal to your weapon training bonus (minimum 1).
You cannot benefit from this feat while using any ability that allows you to take multiple attacks at the end of a charge, such as the pounce ability.
Combat Trick: Whenever you make a charge attack while using Charging Momentum, you can spend up to 6 stamina points. For every 2 stamina points you spend, your weapon training bonus counts as being 1 higher for the purpose of determining the maximum number of additional weapon damage rolls that you can make with this feat.
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>>50220291
Woops missed the crb only thing, the answer is still wizard or sorcerer, but you need to figure out what you want your gimmick to be.
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>>50220165
>>50220178
Who cares if he's a furry? It's the rape panthers I'm worried about.
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>>50218735
>CRB only

Jesus.
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>>50220303
I don't know, what's viable? Last thread I mentioned Blaster or Enchantment as my opening post, and was told to play Cleric or Druid instead.
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>>50220318
Because he can't hide his magical realm of being a furry

I'm a furry. I don't shove that shit into my games and down people's throats. If I wrote a book I'd certainly not put furshit everywhere because it would be magical realm and cringy as fuck

Augunas can't help himself.
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>>50220333
I can't remember what all is in CRB but you can literally play Wizard or Sorc and do whatever you want and be ok
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>>50220335
Having furry characters isn't the bad part. I don't care if he has furries in every piece of art I do hate how badly they're drawn, though. Seriously, kitsune, gnolls, ratfolk. Whatever, toss them in. But don't make your embalming fluid look like piss in childhood adventures. Don't even write rules for playing diaper-clad adventurers, especially given your rape and lust fantasies in other books. The work would be just as creepy if they weren't furry.
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>>50220357

This is on point, but I'm also upset at him for trying to deny he's a furry any chance he gets.

It's a fetish, everyone has fetishes, lying only makes it worse.
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>>50220298
So Weapon Training caps out at +6 (+4 plus gloves of dueling), and with Stamina that would be a +9 maximum. Assuming you beat the target's AC by 45 you could get the max damage.

So using a Greatsword (2d6) and Greater Vital Strike (4x dice), your max damage would be 26d6, averaging 78 damage.

Which honestly deals less damage than an appropriate-level Zenith Strike maneuver.
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>>50220404
Why not get the effective and actual size increases so the base weapon is 4d6?
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>>50220341
No archetypes, no specialist wizard school variants, no favored class bonuses, no dazing spell, no intensify spell, no persistent spell, no piercing spell, no elemental spell, no threnodic spell, no spell specialization, no spell perfection, no +Perception or Initiative familiars
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>>50220440
and you'll still be fine
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>>50220418
Because I was just doing basic numbers for scale. Though even if you increase the damage die, it would still deal less damage than an appropriately-leveled maneuver (or even a lower-leveled maneuver).
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>>50220333
Blaster is kinda inadvisable, as your damage output will be pretty mediocre with core-only. I'd also advice against too tight focus on offensive enchantment spells, as many enemies will be immune(and with core-only, you won't have ways of bypassing the immunity). So if you focus on enchantments, remember to supplement the offensive spells with buffs and maybe illusions that don't have mind-affecting tag.
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>>50220496
Well depending on the materials available (ie 3.0 and 3.5 material) you could get a minotaur greathammer which does 1d12 19-20/x4 damage. Make it a gold or platinum so it's 3d6 damage, and then have the caster cast greater mighty wallop, which at CL 16 would increase it 4 size categories to 12d6 damage per hit.
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>>50220520
Okay, but if you did the same thing with a Zenith strike which would do more damage?
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>>50220580
Probably the vital strike line eventually. Double and triple would be higher when you got them, but eventually you'd be throwing out 48d6 every round, before counting in the additional damage from going intervals of 5 over their ac.
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So overall the UFighter got a couple of little things that were already options and underpowered anyway, none of which really expanded anything aside from more of the stuff they could already do, even the "broken" charging strike feat.

Seems par for the course.
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Are there stats for living paintings enemies? Don't really feel like stating up some paintings for a one off room.
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>>50220699
What is your metric for underpowered?
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>>50220452
Assuming I don't automatically end up with a 'retarded trap build' by playing an arcane spellcaster was was said in the previous thread, is there anything fun and effective that I can specialize in besides just doing whatever?
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>>50220792
there is no retarded trap build if you're playing a full caster.
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>>50220809
That's not true, you could easily take way too situational spells and leave yourself worthless, especially if you're spontaneous.
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>>50220139

I like the second wind class feature. Just say "nah dude, that last hit didn't count" for minute.
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>Character concept perfectly fits two classes
>Feels off picking just one of them
>Game isn't Gestalt
>>>>>Multiclassing
Anyone here have experience with tech classes?
Should I play Tinker or Gearhead?
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will Paizo ever give Lizardfolk the love they deserve? Or are Lizardfolk doomed?
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>>50220742
Underpowered, as in "neither Stamina nor the Advanced Training stuff really made fighters much better than before". Even with those options, Barbarian still stands out as the better class. Or hell, Vigilante.

The fighter doesn't really need more options for big damage. The charge feat is nice, but I'd rather they got something like Bladed Dash, not to mention needing some degree of utility and movement options.

And the fast healing they get from Second Wind is laughable. Unless you're fighting a normal goblin at level 10 everything will be doing more damage than you can recover with every hit they land, it costs Stamina, can't go over your max and goes away after one minute.
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>>50221069

DOOMED
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As a monk is AC 32 ok for a 9th level char without magic item enhancements for AC?
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>>50221419
The average CR 9 enemy has a +16 to hit bonus on their first attack so it's pretty effective.
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>>50220792

I want to be that elf, holy shit.

One day I'll get to play pathfinder and be the QT elf waifu. One day.,
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>>50221631
some day we'll all get to play pathfinder
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A character decides to slice a part of a summoned creature (not enough damage to kill the monster), and then proceed to eat that. The summon creature is then killed or dismissed while he's still eating. What happened?
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>>50221671
summons don't make any sense in the first place
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>>50221671
The sliced off bit goes away. Summoning gets you a "not really summoned" creature, at least as we think of summoning. Conjuring gets the creature to actually appear for real. Slices from a conjured creature will remain.
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>>50221671
Imo since you can't "kill" summoned creatures (for the most part) I'd say that any pieces you chop off just vanish
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>>50221671
Think of summoning as creating a magical echo of the creature and it makes a lot more sense
Ergo the chopped off piece just disappears in a puff of magic.
Unless the chopped off piece can still do stuff.
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Generally speaking which is more useful:
A severely weakened version of Leadership (minions don't have class levels, you get way less of them)
Or
A severely weakened Wizard (less spells, small list, lower DCs, gimped crafting)
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>>50221780

The latter, assuming it doesn't include a cohort.

NPCs without class levels are literally just unseen servants with names; they're useless for anything that would require a decent skill/attack/etc. roll.

A gimped wizard can at least be used for spells that don't require strong DCs.

If the crippled leadership option DOES have the cohort, it wins.
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>>50221631

I want you to be that elf too, anon.

You're already a cutie waifu though, I just want to see you happy!
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>>50221833
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>jade regent
>you spend literally half of the fucking books in not in Tian Xia
What fucking genius thought this up?
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>>50221841
>smuglings
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>>50221848

You gotta build it up, anon. The familiarity of Avistan goes away in an arctic gale and, when the storm relents, you're somewhere *different.*

The first half of Book 4 is absolutely fantastic for just that reason.
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Would anyone mind if I rant about my last session in here?
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>>50221925
>You gotta build it up, anon
Do you seriously need 3 books of it though.
A book, maybe a book and a half seems sufficient.
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>>50221961
As long as it doesn't involve kitsune posting or lewds.
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>>50221961
That's what this general is for.
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Is it guardina mythic parth as bad as people make it to be?
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>>50222075
i mean no mystic path is bad its just that the others are way better
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>>50221973

Most of Brinewall Legacy and Book 3 are important, however if you trimmed off the fat and condensed Book 2 I can totally see it being done in at least two books.
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>>50221833

Do you really mean that, anon?

I just want to be the cute, helpful waifu to a party and help tend their ills and mend their wounds, to keep them together and on-task in the face of stress and adversity.
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Is there any way to swap cha for wis on sense motive checks?
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>>50222202

Anon, I am speaking to you from my heart of hearts when I said what I did.

And now you're only reinforcing what I said by wanting to be the party mom! It's so rare to find people truly passionate about being in that role, and if I ever saw you apply for a campaign as one I'd certainly give it serious thought to join in.

You have a smile worth protecting, anon.
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>>50221990
>>50221991
It's kind of a long story, but the short version is, my character has severe social anxiety, and the party teases him a lot to get a rise out of him. He's the only guy on the team, so he's an easy target, especially since he has no experience with women.

In the last session, they teased him by discussing putting him in a maid uniform, then wiping his memory of it. He made the bard (the only party member who didn't tease him) promise to tell him if that ever happened, and she did.

At the time, the party was working with a mad alchemist to blow up the drug trade, but Claw didn't trust her because of her compulsive lying, and her love of slipping potions to people.

The group, along with he alchemist, went out drinking, and the alchemist (the DM's NPC, by the way, I'll call her J) slipped something into the drinks. My character utterly failed his Fort saves, and started drunkenly calling her out on her hypocrisy. Her response was to charm him with an enchanted ring. The group then took him upstairs and dressed him up as a maid. When he finally snapped out of it, the bard, his only friend, used a Suggestion song on him, to make him have fun. It didn't work because he was exhausted from being forced to dance for them, and he blew up on them. The DM tried to bulls hit his way out of me using Hold Person on J by saying I was too tired to use it, but some of the players talked him out of it. My character tried to cast Fireball on her, but was stopped by the party leader, who realized they had gone way too far. They shared one hell of a nice moment, pure character development gold. But then the DM had J pull out some incense that wiped everyone's memory, just so his precious NPC wouldn't get in trouble, at the cost of the first character development I've ever had with this party.

And that's what I'm pissed about. My character was finally going to get some respect, and things were going to change big time, but the DM erased through powergaming.
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>>50222202
>>50222258
>mfw this exchange

Can confirm that having an elf party mom a best. Protecting that smile is always worth it, no matter how many monsters and creepy stalkers I have to fight off.
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>>50218711
>What have your experiences with succubi been like?

>Famous and much-beloved knight
>Wears thoroughly rusted plate armor and tattered rags that thoroughly conceal his form
>Carries a magical battleaxe that looks like it could topple a house
>Lack of adornment makes him incredibly popular with lower classes for his "one of us!" vibes
>Local baron has his mages summon a demon to dispatch the knight and his party
>Demon gets smashed into a fine paste and slithers away back to his plane
>Second try
>Gets smashed into a yet finer paste, wizard vaporizes paste
>Third try
>Gets the shit beaten out of him, surrenders and allowed to fuck off for all eternity
>Baron learns of this, tries finesse instead of brute force
>Mages summon a succubus
>Succubus disguises as a cleric and attempts to travel with the knight
>"Sure why not, but please focus on healing the others over myself"
>Sneaks into his bedroll, motherfucker is still wearing his armor
>"Are you cold? My apologies, you'll find no warmth in me, I shall light you a fire though"
>Tries to seduce him almost every knight, dense motherfucker still not getting the picture
>Succubus eventually gets so pissed off at the knight she confronts him about the matter and flat out tells him to fuck her
>whole party is watching in visible confusion
>"Goodness, I had no idea you felt that way! I did not ever believe there would be a woman out there willing to wed me!"
>pulls off helmet
>he's a fucking skeleton
>Succubus is so utterly stunned by the amount of bullshit she went through to seduce a fucking skeleton that she can't help but laugh
>Knight Godrick Osteon has a new best buddy
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>>50222336

>People fucking around with other people's minds for shits and giggles

Everybody dies.
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>>50222336
Oh yeah. The DM also told us the incense doesn't erase emotions, but he tried to bullshit his way out of that too, by telling us what emotions our characters felt, which were not remotely accurate.
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>>50222336
Well aint that some shit.

I see it as an opportunity, though.
Next time something similar happens, roleplay a strange familiar feeling as if you think you'd gone through it before, or just generally RP some unsettledness the next day that nags at you whenever something related comes up.

Might eventually lead to you coming across the truth IC again if handled properly.
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>>50218711
>What have your experiences with succubi been like?

Well, my shy, virgin character was teased by a succubus summoned by a party member. He was later forced into having sex with said party member by a mentally unstable alchemist.
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>>50222388
Yeah, that's pretty much the plan. I'm keeping all my character'character's emotions intact, and along with the fact he was still wearing the maid costume when he woke up, the evidence is pretty damning. No way I'm letting J get away with what she did.
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>>50222357
That's a great GM, was in on the joke the whole time but still had the succubus try her hardest.
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>>50222336
>>50222383
>DM has a DMPC in the party
>DM has the DMPC actively fucking with the party
>DM has the DMPC fuck over one PC in particular
>DM has the DMPC fuck over one PC in particular using mindfuck magic

Enchantment bullshit is bad enough when it's done to enemies, using it on "party members" without explicitly asking the player if it's okay just makes you an asshole.
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>>50222258
>>50222202
>>50221833
>>50221631

Oh gosh this is cute.
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>>50222438
The DM is a Spartan. It's his way or the highway. Usually, it's fine, and I was actually having fun this time around, laughing with the rest, but he and his buddies' definition of fun is 'fuck with people', while mine includes 'actual good writing', so when I tried to bring some seriousness in, he wasn't having any of it, and that's when I started to get pissed. Honestly, I want to leave the game entirely, but I love my character so much and I don't have another group to play with.
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>>50222487

>mfw I know how it feels to actually "go along" with bad shit happening to your character
>mfw I know how it feels when the DM pussies out because things are getting too raw

It was the DM trying to murder-kill my character, and when I was totally fine with him kicking the bucket the DM panicked.
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>>50222357
Despite all of the shitty fapbait monsters Pathfinder has to offer and my friends' insistence on getting into shitty ERP, we have never ever encountered a succubus. My first player character with the group started out as a sex slave in a drow bar, another PC had a five-way with marids, the DM before the group's current DM felt it necessary to make an entirely new god of rape (that we eventually killed; we've spent a year or so cleaning up his terrible OCs), and yet no succubi.
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What characters are you currently playing, /pfg/? I'm currently in an evil campaign, and playing an overly dramatic Vizier who acts like a Saturday morning cartoon villain for shits and giggles. His build is basically "Spiderman with necromancy."
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>>50222574
Currently getting the final touches done on a living suit of armour hired as a bodyguard for another PC. I gave his backstory to the GM as a set of letters of recommendation that the armour has kept all the way from his first job.
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>>50222487
>Honestly, I want to leave the game entirely, but I love my character so much and I don't have another group to play with.

I know that feel, but even at its worst my group doesn't sound nearly as bad as that, and it's gotten way, WAY better recently. I want to tell you to just hold out and see how the next incident goes before making a final call, but I just don't know. We have too many anons with shitty groups, it makes me wish I had the time to try to round them all up, get my shit together and learn to GM, and give them the game(s) they deserve.
I also know that feel of having the only male PC in the party, and had a lot of awkward sessions. One party member still slips up IC and calls mine a woman, but that's more of a running gag than actual teasing at this point.
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>>50222574
Shabti Medium (Spirit Dancer) who is a child kinda based off of LoZ: MM and Emil from Nier
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How do I Dullahan?

Witch with a Head familiar?
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>>50222574

An ANGRY teifling harbinger (crimson countess) in a planescape-based game. She has two moods: Angry and horny, and they often overlap.

Last session ended with her charmed by a Salamander who is introducing her to erotic asphyxiation mid-combat.

I promise it's not an ERP.
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>>50222711
>erotic asphyxiation

Yes.
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>>50222574
An edgelord, but not.

What others see:
Sits in the corner, wears black, rarely talks, staff has a scythe blade, pale, covers his face with his hair, specializes in stealth, several shadow-related spells. Goes by "Claw".

Why:
Social anxiety, his first crush said black looked good on him, he has a really thick southern drawl he's self-conscious about, the blade was a gift from his mom and is just mean to scare off bullies, he's a Fetchling so his skin is always pale, he has pock-marks left over from puberty that he covers up, he's good at hiding because he's so self-conscious, shadows intimidate people so he doesn't have to talk to them. "Claw" is short for his embarrassing real name, Haclawfelsgirdan.

He's my third attempt at a character in this party, and the first one I actually feel good about. The first was annoying and inconsistent fetish bait, the second was too quiet and reserved to be fun with the rest of the party, but Claw is great. He's fun to mess with, has great reactions to not being in his element at all, is original for once, and as a caster, he actually has spells I can have fun with.

See >>50222336 for more details.
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>>50222759

Yeah; the Salamander's part of a group of Bleakniks (Bleak Cabalists), and my teifling (due to a heritage of 'grew up in her great-granddad's harem') is kinda a kinky bitch (emphasis GENERALLY on bitch).

If the salamander survives I might be trying top pick her up as a girlfriend for my character, we'll see how things go; the biggest issue is my teifling's an indep, and faction politics are a big deal, y'know?
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>>50222574
>What characters are you currently playing, /pfg/?

One of the stranger builds I've done, a ZweiSent focused on Stealth and thuggery over simply being a big hulking tank.

Game started at level 12, so he was written in as one of the fingers of the Silver Hand, essentially a secret police for the ambiguously evil kingdom we're working for.

He's a "true believer" in the cause, utterly convinced every corpse made or life ruined is all for the greater good of the crown.
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>>50222574
>playing characters

hahaha
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>>50222574
Drow investigator in a LE conquer-the-world campaign, and the country's grand diplomat. Simply put, she's a bitch. To NPCs, she's stilted but convincingly polite, but to the PCs, she's sarcastic and biting literally; all of the PCs are half-monstrous and she's a vampire. She believes she's surrounded by idiots and could do things so much better than the party meatheads (considering one of our players has gone through five characters just because of all the stupid bullshit he's done, she has a point). Her usual solution to combat (aside from avoiding it entirely) is identify the threat with her investigator skills then let her minions or the other party members handle it/get killed. Cooperate with her, and she'll cooperate with you, but don't expect to do something stupid and not get called out for it.
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>>50222574
>An accident-prone half-elf alchemist that was thrust into adventure, after a long bout of depression, by his peppy young elven mother
>He still hasn't quite had everything sink in all the way, though he's still reeling from finding out he possibly lost his family because of a mad queen's desire for immortality, rather than just to plain old disease
>recently developed a special tool, which doubles as a weapon that even his feeble ass could use, because he's terrified of having to be anywhere near most of the things that the party fights in order to use his extracts
>he's desperately trying to not develop a crush on the draconic bloodline sorceress that just joined the party, but only time will tell how that will develop
>he still has yet to actually actually craft a single goddamn construct during the campaign itself, mostly because I am extremely picky, and also because I don't want to have to juggle more than two "characters" at once during actual adventures
>also because "I accidentally a piece of my own soul" isn't a gimmick I can just throw around willy-nilly
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>>50223374

C'mon anon, you can do it! Become the Voldemort you were born to be!
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>remember that talk about the mercenary game a few days ago
>kinda want to make a caster for it but know i'll just get bullied

fuk
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>>50223542

What's wrong with casters, anon? Tell us about the character and build you had in mind, a caster has as much place in a mercenary group as an alchemist.
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I'm about to lock down the subtype my BBEG will specialize in controlling. One of my players is using Feral Mutagen + Vivisectionist(Alchemist) in order to get three Sneak attacks, and he's the only powergamer.
I want to choose a subtype that hinders this ability a bit, so he doesn't hog the spotlight all the time. I was thinking of Constructs, but it's a low-level campaign and I'm not sure if there's enough interesting ones at that level (presumably about level 3-4). Any other subtypes you guys can recommend? Or some Template I can slap onto some monsters to make them Constructs, maybe?
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>>50223490
I don't really know if Voldemort is really where this is going. Does it still count as that when the pieces all have a life, a personality, and bodies of their own, and (probably) cannot be used to bring me back to life? How about when one piece was ripped out unintentionally?
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>>50223573
Not him, but that game's an E8 with plenty of opportunity for Initiating b/w everyone getting Martial Training 2 and a lot of Initiating Archetypes getting Full Initiating
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>>50223573
its e8 so i don't even know what i'd build. It would probably be pretty harsh.
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>>50223602
Oozes. Have them be an Oozemancer. Controling Oozefreinds to attack people to keep the oozetopia safe.
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>>50223642
Are oozes actually interesting though? I haven't fought a lot of them, but it mostly seemed to be limited to "[size] [color] Ooze"
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>>50223690
Anything can be interesting if you try hard enough. Plus, there are templates that give oozes intelligence, so an ooze can actually BE the BBEG.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/id-ooze-cr-1
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How would a Skinwalker/Wulfkin to end up a Paladin of Shelyn while still having the pirmal instincts side of things be relevant?
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>>50223749
Alright, I admit that might be pretty cool. I'm going to do some research on both Oozes and Constructs, and see what gives me more opportunities. I'm still leaning towards Constructs though, but that's mostly because one of the new players picked a Cleric with the Artifice Domain, and I figured having a bit more Constructs than normal would help him stand out a bit.
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>>50223690
You can do quite alot with them. Give the team some elemental items and then force them to have to switch hit against foes that are weak/strong to the elements. Have some slimes that use the absorbtion and grabbing rules. Have some 2 phase fights where either the mini-boss splits into smaller oozes or combines into larger ones. Have some oozes ambush them. Let them have options of avoiding some combats through stealth.

You can do alot of fun stuff with them!
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>Level up
>Increase my char's speed by 3 and get pounce
>Suddenly every enemy ever is at 400 ft of us or even more when combats start and on ambushes
Man, I'm starting to think they can read our minds, not even my party knows my speed
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>>50223789
>How would a Skinwalker/Wulfkin to end up a Paladin of Shelyn while still having the pirmal instincts side of things be relevant?

What, are you telling me wolves aren't known for having intense familial bonds, or don't mate for life? If you want to go primal, give them a partner they're extremely friendly towards and highlight their selfless nature among the party.
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>>50223789
>an appreciation for beauty isn't part of primal instincts
>strong family bonds aren't primal instincts

You want to hug and protect all the things good and pure about the world. Including the smiles of the party.
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>>50224073
Thing is I'm trying to flavor the Spiritualism Tradition Power from Hedgewitch while also being a not!paladin with my talent choice/maneuvers. How do I flavor getting talents on the fly; say "lol its divine inspiration" or "lol it's innate primal blood"?
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>>50224205

What if it's their primal blood triggering the divine inspiration? The character's emotions are raw and powerful, and when they're directed towards goodly virtues and feelings that Shelyn would adore, the character's divine connection "flares up" like if they were throwing gasoline on a fire?
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>>50224205
Mash it together. It's your instinct to protect augmented by a divine inspiration to let you better perform your duty.

>The Not!Paladins that got talked about are each total opposites of eachother
>one is the REAL DEAL, the other is desperate and faking it
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>>50224263
>>50224293
So the desire to protect the smiles of the party fuels sudden bursts of divine energy/insticts? I kinda like that.

>Wants to protect the smiles of their new family.
>because their old family didn't protect theirs.
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>>50224364

Well yeah, Shelyn likes it when people love each other, and the sensation of love a Skinwalker undoubtedly feels is quite powerful.

You got any bits o' backstory you're willing to share with us? This character sounds interesting!
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>Playing a technology character (gearhead)
>GM lets me mimic magic item crafting but it's tech instead
>I've made propeller backpacks, FLUDD, mind control devices, shrink rays, quantum stockpile pouches, a wide variety of constructs, etc
>I've breathed life into the mechanical
>Used my genius inventions to warp reality itself
>Even to accurately predict the future
>But I can't build a car
>I just can't do it okay
>Like, the idea can't cross my character's mind naturally, I'm just metagaming
>But my fucking long-range teleporters are fine though
Yeah fair enough I'm sure no one has ever thought of a horseless wagon before and never will
How outlandish would that be
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So if I'm a sphere caster and I DON'T take Somatic and Verbal casting, are my effects purely mental actions?
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>>50224364
You. I like you.
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I just want to play a wizard. I've never gotten a chance to except for one shots and sessions that died in two sessions. I just like the planning of spell lists, finding new spells, and what not of a prepared caster.

Is that so wrong?
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honestly the UFighter from ealier seems just straight worse than DHB's in terms of design. Though DHB died so what ever.
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>>50224496

RIP in peace DHB.

He never scored.
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>>50224508
He posted like two days ago right? Saying he was feeling better and might be able to do something. Then he disappeared again.

he said all the chest pain was asthma related right?
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>>50224496
thats because its just the current fighter using the stamina subsystem and +2 skillpoints

so much design.
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>>50224408
>Born to a Minor Noble in Korsova
>Non-human-ness is believed to be result of mother's faithlessness to father
>Father hates character due to "ruining family" (mother may or may not be around anymore, undecided)
>Throws self at books/religion to get away from it all
>Meets Shelyn priest who cares for young character and helps mentor them through youth
>When comes of age, joins a group of Shelyn knights/paladins
>After training with them for X years, is sent to Sandpoint to check out temple and to look into birthplace of mentor priest.

Still a work in progress and could be tightened up in (a lot of) places. But for a glaive-using OD/ZS Warder, Spiritualism + Font of Inspiration Hedgewitch, I like it so far.

Tempted to make character not really believe in love due to childhood, despite it being the only thing that they want out of life. Not sure if that's heresy for a Shelyn worshipper so IDK on the not believing in it thing.
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>>50224539
Yeah DHB's Advanced Equipment Training is actually cool and gives fighter versatility.
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>>50224551
There's lots of ways of defining "love", anon. English, and english speakers, are stupid about love because they act like "there's one word, therefore it's one thing".
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>>50224586
I meant more in a familial, parental way due to their childhood and a marriage way due to how their parents became after the infidelity thing.
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>>50224539
I have actually considered doing a rewrite of part of the Unchained Fighter and adding a second completely new class feature similar to stamina.

The issue is as I see it I compared the UC rogue and UC fighter

In the current draft the UC rogue gets 14 "talents", counting skill unlocks as talents. The UC fighter gets 13. There is not much room to improve them witthout putting them as a leg up on UC rogue.

Basically in my mind the UC rogue is close to what I shoot for. And I equate many class features in terms of class opportunity cost. Right now the UC fighter and UC rogue are very close to each other. The UC fighter would have to lose something to make me bump it up more unless I toss out that deisgn principle.

What I was planning on doing was possibly rolling something into Weapon Training. This being a modified version of dirty trick + other combat maneuvers. Instead I made that into a AWT.

I could back up and think "list of things a fighter should be able to do in combat, but that combat doesn't support". Give them a pool equal probably to weapon training + wisdom (as they are the wisdom based of the three Broken Shackles classes) and make it cost points to do those. How ever that brings them close to the gunslinger's grit.

Basically what I'm saying is that I'm already infringing on things that other classes do with some of the AWT, AAT, and ET. I'm not sure how much more I can add and change without either putting fighter a head above others or changing them too much. I've already received complaints about he UC gunslinger and UC cavalier being too different from their base class so I want to try and maintain the fighter as something pure.
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>>50224693
HE LIVES
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>>50224719
Barely. I'm trying hard to get back on track. It's difficult. However that is a personal failing.
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So, of course I start with a Ratfolk Ninja, but what feats and such should I look into if I want to make something similar to pic-related?
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>>50224693
For instance here is a problem. I have designed a Advanced Equipment Training but feel it really infringed on the rogue's space:

Locksmith (Ex):
The Fighter is experienced with locks and their inner working. He received a +1 bonus to Disable Device to pick locks, this bonus increases to +2 at 6th level and every 4 levels thereafter to a maximum of +5 at 18th level. In addition the Fighter may spend one minute tinkering with a lock to increase the DC to pick it by his Fighter level for 24 hours.

Other proposed ones included:
Light Sleeper
>removing the perception check penalty for sleeping + being able to get rest anywhere.
Man of the People
>Gather Information based one in urban areas.
Bit of Elbow Grease
>Can make skill checks untrained a few times per day, rolls twice and takes the better when he does so.
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>>50224639

Anon, most people who become clerics or Paladins of Shelyn are doing so to MEND their broken hearts. Your character joining the order is nothing extraordinary.
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>DM wants us to make a super detailed backstory incorporating custom nationalities and religions which give powerful bonuses
>Doesn't want us taking traits unless we spend a feat for them

WHY
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>>50224639
To be honest, man, the more you talk about this character, the more I want to play with them. If only because of the contrast between what I want to play.

>mfw I will never play with a not!paladin wulfkin looking to protect smiles and mend their own broken heart
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>there are people ITT who are not fetchlings
Bet you rolled <50 on your miss chance, scrubs
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>>50224964
>there are people in this thread right now you are getting to play characters
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>>50224964
>tfw aasimar just cast daylight
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>>50224926

You might, anon! Isn't that character aiming to get in the RotJR campaign? Just do your gosh darndest to get one of those golden tickets!

What's your dream team based on the characters already discussed here?
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>>50224986
You're gonna wish you hadn't wasted your turn casting daylight, bright bitch

No really pls post fetchings lads
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>>50224991
I don't even know who all is applying besides Artisan-jii-san, MagusNEET, and the Shely-din. Isn't there also some Oni person? I can't keep track of them all.
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>>50222574
I was the DM a few sessions ago. The players went to a brothel to do some sidequesting and information gathering, and the bearfolk fighter ended up bringing a kitsune back. Ended up making her a clingy girlfriend that wants to get married.
One of my players wanted to DM a mini campain, so i used the kitsune as my character (everybody loved the idea). Made her a rogue since she had already stolen something and gave her some suggestive feats like rope mastery and agile maneuvers.
Having a lot of fun playing her, but people are catching up on this since i've had to roll a pregnancy check.
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>>50225039
There's the wolfgirl Brawler/bloodrager who will combo your ass, the Oni Sacred Fist/Monk who is going to monk the most monk of all time, and a dhampir investigator who hits people with a book from my knowledge.
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>>50225039
I think there's a tentacle lady and like four Kaijutsus.
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>>50225073
oh shit yeah i forgot about the tentacle lady

the only one i know for sure that are Kaijutsus are the oni and dhampir.
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>>50224991
What's the max party size? So far I count 7 people from this /pfg/ thread.
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>>50224991
To be perfectly honest? I don't remember enough applicants well enough to accurately pick a full group. I also refuse to put much stock in that campaign, no matter how fun it sounds, because I don't want the day to come and for me to be disappointed when either it explodes or I don't have time for it. Or both.

Both Not!Paladins and the Artisan. Last slot(s) are a tossup. Kaijitsu siblings sounded fun, but I'm pretty sure they had a different idea of what they want in a party.
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>>50225162

It's gestalt, so four at max.
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>>50225062
Dhampir Inquisitor actually, since that's the one that lets you smack people with a book.

Said book is also covered in mithral and cold iron, is the focus for her Occultist Powers (tm), AND is light reading for the priesthood of Nethys.
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>>50225177
>25 people in the waiting group
>only 4 will get in
Truly, we live in an age of suffering.
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>>50225293

Nay, it's an age of competition. Those who get in won't be suffering, all you've got to do is prove yourself better than at least 21 other people.
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>>50225293
>25
It's 39. At this stage multiple groups might need to open up.
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>>50225313
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What's the best way to play an Axe Thrower? Ricochet Toss (Weapon Master's handbook) or similar?
No 3pp allowed though.
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>>50225362
>throwing
>no 3pp
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>>50225362
>No 3pp
Throw your sheet in the garbage
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>>50225362
Refluff a longbow build
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>>50225409
>>50225362

Throwing's doable in 1pp now though.

Ricochet toss and Trained Throw

Or alternatively, Vigilante for that one Vigilante Talent.
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Excuse me GM, but how come there's no mechanical benefit for the vast majority of NPCs and PCs to worship gods in the setting? For the average fighter or wizard worshipping a god does jack-shit.
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>>50225534
I give Deific Obediance as a free feat to all PCs personally
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>>50225436
Why would you lie to him like that?
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>>50225409
>>50225428
Ok, what about with 3pp?
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>>50225534

There's no mechanical benefit for the vast majority of NPCs and PCs to worship gods in real life

Doesn't stop them
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what is the worst part of making a charsheet
and why is it finding charart

>i recognize the character
>minor defect in the face
>never has quite the right style of armor
>click on image >it's a video game screenie
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>>50225587
Deadly Agility, Phantom Sun Stance, Silver Crane Spiral, Reflected Blade Style.
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>>50225616
One of the worst parts for me is trying to find art for non-core races. Fucking impossible sometimes.
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>>50225642
This is probably the most common reason why i end up playing female characters so often. There's a female version for bloody everything on the boorus.
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>>50225659
>have to live the HMF or waifu laifu
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>>50225616
I see we are two of soul.
I had this problem, too, a long time ago.
But I figured out a way to solve it.
I'll let you in on my secret technique:

start with the art
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>>50225616

Make your own character art
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>>50225313
>better
Not necessarily, it's more "who appeals to the DM's taste more/makes the DM's dick twitch".
>>50225329
Well that assumes every single person who's signed up for the waiting list will still be available in two months.
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>>50225659
I know that feel
>Searching for image of inquisitors with sweet fucking hats
>for some reason only the female ones are getting the sweet fucking hats
>whatever fuck it, guess my character is female now
Searching for character art is an eternal struggle of getting the exact opposite of what you want at all times.
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>>50225616

Personally, the character art is my favorite part of designing a character, to the point most builds are actually built AROUND some art I fancy.
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>>50225737
>some anons may not make it in two months
Pour one out for the fallen.

F
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>>50225767
Indeed.

It does pay off to have some skills in altering art, though. I can't count the number of times I've realized I can just shoop a picture to be a little different and have it be just right (like adding elf ears on someone).
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>>50225623
So, a warlord? No core classes?
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>>50218802
I want to play an unchained fighter that protects the smile of an optimized initiator!
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Dumb question and probably not optimal but... Can you apply weapon finese to unarmed attacks? I think you can for natural cause they are considered light but what about fists or simple gauntlet(non spiked ones)?
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>>50225767

>sweet hat

I dont know that feel
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>>50225779
By definition, many aren't going to.
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>>50225534
It's called deific obedience. Anything less and you aren't giving enough to get powers basically.
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>>50225821
I didn't mean just not making it in the game.

;_;
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I nerfed time stop. Players are aware in the time stop. I did this because time stop is some hot bullshit and also the enemy being able to move while you can't is way more threatening.
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>>50225737

Is that not just another way to show your ability, anon? Knowing just the right way to give someone a special feeling in their pants or how to brown nose juuuuuust right?
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>tfw all this talk about making women because you don't have character art

It's the opposite problem over here, I'm always making guys because I've got male artwork for all sorts of occasions and occupations.

I just want to feel pretty, and nobody ever calls a male character pretty ;_;
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>>50225909

Play an elf!
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>>50225909
>>50225950

Elves (and Drow) are female until proven otherwise, lad. You'll be pretty.
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>>50225963
This is wrong.

Drow are slav refugees until proven otherwise.
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>>50225909
Had a half-fiend antipaladin of Calistria in the group once. He was even prettier than the seductive cleric of Ardad Lili.
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>>50222075
It has some pretty awesome stuff if you play martials with lock combos.
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>>50225909
Just play prettier men anon?
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>>50225800
>implying he wouldn't be the one being protected
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>Making a mounted charger for maximum damage
>Realize I'm like 3 feats short for the most damage I can do if I take two feats for my mount
>Say fuck it and make it a tank that charge into combat and soaks damage
Well this works too
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Is there any sort of guide for rolling up your own character for Pathfinder?

How do I play an effective gunslinger? I kind of always wanted to make one, or a character similar to that. Maybe a fencer, rapier-using type.
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>>50226171

There are few things cuter than the weaker character declaring himself the protector of someone who can easily take care of themselves, anon.
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>>50226164

>mfw last time I played a pretty man he came out as Jaime Lannister
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Hey all, I've been gone for a bit, but the KOP 4 playtest is over, you can all remove it from the OP.

Work's beginning on new projects, talk of LK 2 is coming up as is its playtest, people are trying to talk me into writing a new guide which I might put up a kickstarter to do, dragon book is going through its paces, and KOP 4 is being looked over before being sent off to the publisher.
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>>50226232
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>>50226232
>>50226283
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>>50226306
Good taste in manga, anon.
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>>50226283

>Chosen One Paladin meets middle-aged Witch
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>>50226248
>GoT
Is it even worth watching/reading that at this point? Which is better books or TV?
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>>50226426
The books. Definitely the books.

The TV series has essentially gone so far off the rails at this point that it's little more than well-funded fanfiction.
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>>50226426
Books > TV

By far. TV is the Starwars I-III and VII to the Book's IV, V, VI
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>>50226426

I'd highly recommend reading the books since they do a damn good job (at least for me) of unclogging the noggin when you want to write out a character idea; like 80% of all the best characters I've ever written were done so after I reread a couple chapters.

As for the shows? They're pretty good, they start diverging from the books in places but snap back into place once Dances with Dragons rolls around, and from there it's all speculation supplemented by Word of God (GRRM himself) telling the writers how the plot was going to happen.

>>50226468
>>50226484

>The TV series has essentially gone so far off the rails at this point that it's little more than well-funded fanfiction.

The show has gone off the rails because GRRM hasn't been releasing his books on time. There is nothing to suggest the plots of Season 6+ are not going to be what will happen in the books.
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>tfw no antipaladin to always make sure you're properly bullied
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So what are the best bits from adventure paths?
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>>50226513

You don't need an antipaladin to say what needs to be said about your burden of a character, anon.
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>>50226503
>>50226503
The show went far off the rails before even considering where he's up to.
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>>50226513

I swear anon, if you hold the group up one more time I am taking half your loot.
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People get so god damn buttmad whenever an enemy is an anti-paladin because it "stifles their roleplay" since anti-paladin kick the shit out of good characters. I've had multiple people tell me I'm ruining their agency because their character would go into melee against an evil character, but the anti-paladin will kill them if they do.

No, fucking own up to your character. If he is the type to run when faced with an enemy who is especially good at fighter you then do it, if he would stand and fight then face the consequences.

God damn.
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>>50226227
Look in the pastebin in >>50218711 for links to the guides.

A lot of it depends on what your DM allows.
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>>50225909
>All this talk about art makes me realize I've been meaning to shoot a request of SOME SORT at the drawthread, just to see what happens
>mfw I actually start compiling a reference sheet for a character
>mfw it's not even for any character I'm actually playing, but for one I may never play

Why do I do this to myself.
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>>50226611

Do it, anon! Do it!

What's the character?
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>>50226227
>For new players making characters
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12bzFGnyLO4TrOOLZ8Q1OROcB0lydVfF09JY2T1g4GxQ/edit?usp=sharing

>For making gunslingers
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1En2ECuP1v63kTqGIUx5dpuhZQuoXl9Tc0UEj3P_xYN0/edit?usp=sharing

"Hi, my name is N. Jolly, and I teach people how to play this game."
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Did anyone put out a pdf of the Crimson Throne hardcover yet?
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>>50226589
>>50226625
Thank you very much anons, I'll check these out.
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What races do you use in your setting, /pfg/? Which races are banned?

My group runs with the core and planetouched races being fine, with others being a case-by-case basis.

Except for the Akashic vulturefolk/turtlefolk, our GM loves them and almost always accepts them. In fact, I'm currently playing a vulture wizard with a vulture familiar.
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>>50226657
Human and human offshoots except half-elf & half-orc. People get so autistically angry about it, it's great.
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>>50226657
Either Human only
or
Humans
Dwarfs
Modified Orcs
Hobgoblins/Goblins
Lizard Folk
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>>50226657
>What races do you use in your setting, /pfg/?

Humans, Animal-folk with five variants, three types of Elf, Undead and Dragonborn.
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>>50226697
Legit sounds like anime fantasy, not gonna lie.
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>>50226657
Whatever was allowed in Races of Faerun, except for Avariel (Winged Elves).

Not everything has a direct conversion to Pathfinder, like Gold Dwarves. I might let a player build a race based on the 3.0 FRCS.
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>>50226707

>mfw read this
>mfw realize one type of Elf is basically anime-tier evil
>mfw the animal-folk are mostly kemonomimi
>mfw divine magic and extraordinary abilities such as Elemental Flux are built around your burning passion or sheer conviction of faith
>mfw

I didn't intend for it to go this way.
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>>50226624
The Shut-In. I remember now why I didn't do this before, as I had to find a picture of a single forehead horn that I actually liked to use as reference. Also a tail, because a tiefling without a prehensile tail is something I can't wrap my head around.
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>>50226748

>mfw I've never made a Tiefling with a prehensile tail
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>>50226744
There's been crossover between tabletop gaming and anime for decades.
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>>50226748

You should request it, anon! Shut-In looks cool, and I bet he'll look even cooler with some custom artwork!
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Why am I the only one who ever takes notes?

I keep detailed notes on the following:
>npcs
>locations
>businesses
>rumors
>loot
>calendar/time

It feels like everyone else can't even remember the city we're in.
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>>50226657
>What races do you use in your setting, /pfg/?
I'm making homebrewed races, however the players will be restricted on a location based basis, since technology is just Bronze Age levels, and most of the races don't even know the others exist yet.
This also extends to sub-races and Ethnicities, since unless its a metropolitan area you will only ever see up to 2 or 3 ethnicities at most.

Though if players make certain things happen, I plan on having the other races of the world eventually unfold to them game by game, and they will have the opportunity to play new ones as it progresses.

I just wish I was focused enough to finish making the setting, races, and ethnicities
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>>50225073
There's only three Kaijitsu Sisters.
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>>50225073
>>50226876
I mentioned a character that WORKED for the Kaijitsu's and was close to the family(mostly Ameiko), so maybe that's the confusion?
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>>50226846
Based on experience, there's only one person in the group who does it.

It's bad when they miss a session.
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>>50226902
>What did you guys do while I was gone?
>We killed some monsters and got a thing
>What thing? For who? Where?
>Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>GM has to explain it
It happened LAST WEEK
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>>50226902
I use the fact I'm the only one who takes notes to cook the books to get more gold. I tell the GM about this, the players don't know. I also do it to strategically write out NPCs I don't like.
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>>50226876
>There's only three Kaijitsu Sisters.

Four, actually.

You forgot Amaya.
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>>50226966
I think they were referring to applicants.
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>>50226832
Really, the only thing that would make me wary is he'd need a second portrait to go with the main one, on account of him always using magic to change his hair and eye color, and get rid of the dark rings under his eyes.
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>>50226832
I got custom character art before.

Thought he looked pretty good.

Judge my character by his appearance
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>>50226995

Baby steps, anon! Just get one request through and see to doing the second one later.

That's what I'm doing, at least!
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>>50227009
Forehead/10
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>>50227028
I also have him aged up 15 years.
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>>50226902
Okay, I don't follow Transformers comics, but now I'm curious.
Anyone wanna share the context here on why Megatron is an Autobot?
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>>50227114
He got tired.
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>>50227160
>The BBEG who has grown tired of what he is and what he's done, that he decides its time to stop.
I love this theme, so much.
Primus be with you Megatron, Son of Kaon.

Seriously, I really need to get into Transformers comics. But where do I start?
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>>50226966

She's only Half.
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>>50227241
This might need updating.
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>ask GM several times over a week if he's absolutely sure about the homebrew he wanted me to propose, and if there was anything he wanted to go over
>"nah man it's cool don't worry about it"
>go dial it back a little just in case, so it ends up a bit worse than Jollylock Mystic Bolts, albeit with better range
>finally get to actually use it in combat, nobody complains for the first few fights
>then I actually decide to be brave and use deadly aim
>"Wow bro, hold up, that's an awful lot of damage, even for someone who spent most of their features on ranged combat"
>mfw glancing over to the summoner who had soloed at least half of our encounters so far
>mfw this was the first time I was able to have much of a meaningful contribution to a fight in almost 40 sessions, and it was 42 acid damage, at level 8, after making a hasted full attack

And I thought I was doing so well. At least nobody complained when a single arrow from my companion did way more.
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Group's sunday game has come to an end. They're starting a new sunday game, which is interesting in concept.

10pb, 1st lvl NPC classes (with regular progression past that. Dunno if we'll get to retrain that first level atm.)
With a <50gp class kit, and 20gp to spend on anything else we want.

The PCs are apparently part of an effort to colonize a new continent after the destruction of the old world at the end of their last campaign.

Seems like it could be interesting. The GM is pretty good at set pieces from what I've played with him at the helm.
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>>50227474
The big question is how long they're going to spend at level 1.
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>>50227474
>The PCs are apparently part of an effort to colonize a new continent after the destruction of the old world at the end of their last campaign.

That sounds like a situation where only the strongest survived, aka not 10 pb.
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>>50227474
>tribal
>delicious brown
>possibly maid
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Best 1PP futanari race?
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>>50227542
Tiefling. There are other options?
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>>50227542

Faultspawn Tiefling.
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>>50227474
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>>50227538
She's a shopkeeper from Etrian Odyssey iirc.
And yeah, there's barely like any porn of her.
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>>50227581

>tfw no delicious brown-girls in Pathfinder
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>>50227607
There are several though.

....Fuck actually now that I think about there's just Seelah and that wizard chick with the nice rack from the first book of Runelords.
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>>50227581
>>50227570
Shilleka is both best shopkeep, and great for gathering (you)s

>>50227497
He is encouraging backup characters. So, yeah, probably going to be a high casualty campaign. Especially starting deep, deep in Rustydagger Shanktown.
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>>50227607
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>>50227641
We actually knocked out the RotRL wizard and my character used spells to check her alignment and changed to her good through a helm of of opposite alignment during downtime.
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>>50227645
Is that Voynich Hotel? I love Voynich Hotejl, even if it isn't the character from it.
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>>50227641
>and that wizard chick with the nice rack from the first book of Runelords.

That girl is explicitly described as frumpy and awkward because she's not that cute.

Her rack isn't even that good, it's got all the hallmarks of floppy pancakes.
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>>50227607
>>50227641
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>>50227672
>I love Voynich Hotel
>don't recognize Elena
You are disgrace.
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>>50227385
>player's new sorcerer has shit luck with spell resistance and will saves every round, and half their list is enchantment, which some of the creatures we're fighting are immune to
>sitting here feeling like shit as, undoubtedly, there are heated PMs being tossed between sorcerer player and the GM about me

I knew I should have just made a new character.
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>>50227723
Why do you think I brought up the manga she's from? Besides, I binged it in like three days!
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>>50227385
>>50227729
Are you okay, anon?
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>>50227794

It looks like he's giving us a play-by-play report on some bullshit happening in a session.
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>>50227607
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>>50227729
>Make a character that unintentionally outperforms another in the party
>He gets all passive aggressive about it
>Constantly talk shit in character
>He attacks me after a while
>Whoop his ass
>Dude gets mad and quits the game
>GM already has a replacement for next session
This happened today
OUT HERE ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE
ROLLS OF NATURE
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>>50227856

>Canonically a former courtesan
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>>50227882
STANDING HERE, I REALIZE
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>>50227794
>>50227821
I'm the guy that posted this a few weeks ago, who's playing a Promethean Alchemist: http://pastebin.com/d6dKrNCR

I finally got to actually go ahead and use it in real fights. We fought three Seugathi. I somehow managed to:
>make the 20 DC will save all but once, with a mere +8 modifier
>act normally when I was under its confusion aura by rolling well on the d%
>hit most of my attacks during combat, while hasted by a party member

I'll admit I haven't really gotten to tune anything in the doc very thoroughly, but I screened it through the thread a couple times, and screened it through my GM at least once. I don't even have all three of the discoveries.
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>>50227607
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>>50227958

>tfw no genki Elysian Titan to brutally smash evil with
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>>50227945
Looks fine
Your party is just used to you being dead weight
Tell them to stop keeping you down
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>>50227882
>>50227918
YOU CAN'T FIGHT NAT 1'S JACK!
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>>50228096
You can with additional rerolls.
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>>50228043
Something something "gets to be a gunslinger while still keeping alchemist features". I'm not really mad at the other player, considering... Well, they're playing a draconic enchantment with a side of lightning damage, and got absolutely assfucked by resistances during their first encounter, while I went from "total dead weight" to "holy fuck look at me ma, I'm contributing!"

My homunculus is still better than me. Thank you papa paizo for making Longbows so "balanced".
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tfw no oregon trail campaign
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>>50228225

What, you mean an epic journey westward to settle fertile, unclaimed lands?

I could go for that too ;_;
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>>50228225

>tfw dying of dysentery on day 3
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>>50228225
>>50228242
>>50228245
Kingmaker maybe? Jade Regent sorta?
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>>50228177
Remind your pals that gunslinger is fucking garbage every time they complain
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>>50227945
Oh hey. It's you again.
Don't let 'm get you down. You deserve to be on par with everyone finally.
PCs are heroes and all.
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>>50228242
>fertile, unclaimed lands?
Is this a metaphor for something?
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>>50228332

I just like large tracts of land with vibrant fields of wildflower I can put to the plow, filling the virgin soil with hardy seeds to build a family on!
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>>50228350
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>>50228225
tfw no donner party campaign
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>>50228423
the no campaign
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>>50228272

Why did I read this as Jade Regent shouta?
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>>50228350
What about small tracts of land?
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>>50228285
>>50228326
I'll have to wait until everyone cools down from the shock of my sudden ability to contribute.

>first message back on what to do is "totally drop Int to damage"
Off to a good start
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>>50228486
Don't let these fucktards bully you back into the garbage bin anon
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>>50228506
Yeah!
Bully them into the garbage bin!
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>>50228470

I love them too, some of the greatest vintages in the world come from small tracts of French countryside! They're every bit as fertile as the large tracts, but instead of quantity you aim for quality with them.

And who knows, maybe after long periods of plowing the small becomes large.
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>>50228506
>>50228520
Plan is to try to finesse it so I at least maintain my status as "still better than just using a crossbow" but not "DUDE GUNS LMAO". Also actually point at my character sheet and go "look at how many resources are going to this and tell me I'm "gunslinger bolted to a whole alchemist".

>mfw trying to hold back my autism
>mfw trying to in turn not go full beta and nerf myself into shit to avoid causing a ruckus
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/oregontrailgeneral/, what do you encounter on your journey westward?


>giant steppes ruled by not!mongolian orc tribes littered with sparse trading posts
>old abandoned frontier fortresses, some haunted, some barely more than a half-erect wall
>giant flocks of mastodons that last for three days in passing
>hungry rocs scouring the plains above
>the tattered pages of a diary from a previous party
>And you've got to get to the neverending forest before fall and winter set in
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>>50228939

Rivers inhabited by capricious nymphs that demand offerings of wagon axles if you choose to ford their waters.

To be serious, all those sound good to me, especially the first one!

Wasn't the Oregon Trail crew a party of four anyway? It's practically built for a campaign.
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>>50228939

Fordless rivers.
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>>50229010
>Wasn't the Oregon Trail crew a party of four anyway? It's practically built for a campaign.

It was a family.

Someone's gonna have to play the mom and dad.
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>>50228700
Hold in there!

Don't give in to the beta!
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What's the technical largest first party race you can play as?
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>>50229058

Someone's gonna have to play the oneesan
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>>50228939

This may not be a true encounter, but there should absolutely be a hard focus on survival and health; disease and starvation were *huge* aspects of the Oregon Trail, and that should be reflected.

Heck, the actual journey West should only be half the game, the other half is establishing your farmstead and making it prosper.
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>>50229105
Largest? Orcs and Humans can get to 7 foot, I guess. Unless you mean actual Size.
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>>50229213
Humans have a max of 6'6''

Orcs have a max of 7'1''
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>>50229213
That's tiny. I mean, like, stuff that's at least Large or larger. I mean stuff that's at least 9 feet tall.
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>>50229235
You wanna get technical, there's a blurb in Blood of Fiends that tells you you can pick what size of tiefling you want to play. By RAW, you can be colossal with little fanfare.
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>>50229226
>only a max of 7'

m a n l e t s
g e t
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>>50229092
It's slow, but there's at least a mutual understanding (as far as I can tell) of not wanting to totally kneecap myself to crossbow-tier. I've got a whole week to figure shit out at least.

Proposal right now: Delay Int-to-damage to later, require the Rapid Reload feat in order to really full attack with Acid Injection.
Status: "it's a start, let's sleep on it"
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>>50229278
5'5 reporting!
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>>50222357
Skelebro?

is that you?

You always play skeletons in any game system right?
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