EDH/Commander General

Building my first artifact deck with Breya inside. Excited for it, bought a bunch of duals and artifact ETBs from Kaladesh. Even got myself a foil Tezzeret the Seeker.

Where the fug is everybody, voting Trump ?

>>50162263
i voted for hilary

>>50162263
Unless all the Eurofags like me that usually post on this thread went overseas to vote, I doubt that's where they are.

>>50162263
I'm in Fucking Leaf Land so from a purely self-interested standpoint I'm hoping for the one that isn't screaming about leaving NAFTA. Although his comments have a short shelf life anyhow so who knows.

Anyway, best legendary land is The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale

>>50162327
kill yourself

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Hi /tg/, made an Atraxa angel tribal deck. Looking for critique, commentary. Link: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/atraxa-angel-tribal/

>>50162327
I voted for Stein.

>>50161582

Easily Gamekeeper. I have Rift Sweeper in my Mayael EDH just or that reason.

>>50162327
Log out.

>>50161827
OP you forgot to link the new thread in the old one.

Also, I love Minamo and Mikokoro.

>>50163266
>angel tribal with no red
You are going to miss some great WR angels.

>>50162327
thanks

>>50163260
Anyone who would seriously vote for trump needs help.

>>50163322
Yeah it is unfortunate however the deck works really well, the synergy Archangel of Thune and Herald of War have with Atraxa make up for that fact tho imo.

>>50163266
You're in green, and trying to do a hefty mana costed tribal and have little to no ramp.

Skyshroud Claim and Rangers Path are two things you should add. I think there's one more forest grabber but I can't recall at the moment. Land Tax would be a good idea too.

Other than that, how about Cryptic Gateway?

I'd also take Emeria out. The chances of you getting 7 Plains on the battlefield with the mana base isn't as likely. You'd rather have another land that checks for two.

>>50163372
I would vote for Trump, because I don't live in USA, and I make money from Dollar going up and down.

>>50163372
Make Domineria great again

>>50163372

As opposed to ironically voting for Trump?

>>50163372
I voted for trump. Hopefully the teacup of America and Russia will be good enough to fuck up the world and finally make a single world government

>>50163392
I could see the ramp being an issue. Might replace Phyrexian Tower(not sure why its in there other than the fact I own it) and something else with ramp. Land tax is in there.

Cryptic Gateway was in an earlier iteration. It's pretty good, and it was a toss up between it or Aether Vial. Might come back if Aether vial performs poorly.

Emeria is a flavor choice, and also combos with Prismatic Omen so its not all bad.

>>50163517
*teamup my bad
I also play turbofog and stax

Instead of totally derailing with politics, what decks would trump or hillary make? Trump feels like Ruhan of the formori wall tribal? Hillary could be grand arbiter agustin or thalia tax n stax?

>>50163372
Not American, but I would have voted Trump.

Trump is too dumb to do any lasting damage, everyone will resist his stupid ideas as much as they can.
It will hopefully be a wakeup call to the democrats and maybe even more people will go libertarian.

Hillary however is the incarnation of the sly and corrupt politician.
She will do what benefits her and her sponsors in the end, however she will be able to pass it through, she isn't retarded.

It's basically choosing between chaotic neutral and lawful evil.

>>50163549
Trump and putin would start a war fighting over their dick size within a week

>>50163550
I'd say she's more of an Olivia Voldaren

>>50163550
It's as if there is a question if Hillary would be playing Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer.

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>>50161827
Best legendary land , that's easy

>>50163550
Braids, Cabal Minion is Hillary obviously, opponent saccing are drone strikes, you saccing is equivalent to the sacking of the American people and way of life.

NO POLITICS SHIT.
COMMANDER 2016 IN STORES THIS THURSDAY.
POST FUTURE BUILDS.

>The Pride Kings
Aikido styled with a bit of reflect damage, combo stoppers, and punish effects.

>Tymna + Sidar Konda
Hatebear Aggro

>Akiri + Bruse Tarl
Full on Arti-Stax with Equipment

>Ishai + Thrasios
Bant Enchantress with two ways to win: Voltron Ishai, or ramp hard as fuck and use Thrasios as a mana dump.

>>50163732
>Konda
Shit meant "Kondo"

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>>50161827
You were really close

>>50163569

I wouldn't have voted for neither if I was american. If they are the candidates that came through in the end, then american democracy is done.

>>50163732
Saskia will finally give me the outlet to make a samurai deck.

With Sensei Golden Tail, it's almost like I have a samurai commander.

>>50163769
I love this card but casting cultivate and other ramp spells on turns 3 and 4 with it seems so wrong.

>>50163784
Scientific studies have concluded America is no longer considered a democracy, but an Oligarchy. (As if it wasn't obvious, but now there's a report on it to cite sources).

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

Anyways, that is exactly the reason you should vote for Trump. Make more people realize just how shitty the representative two party system is.

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Creatureless mono black control, would shauku be a good general

>>50163882
Shauku will never be a good commander. If you want black control erebos is the best imo.

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>>50161827
Best legendary land just from a general standpoint? too bad it's banned. :^)

Anyway, for a complete beginner, which commander 2016 deck would you guys recommend?

>>50163882

Erebos or maybe planeswalker ob nixils.

>>50163900
yeah i'd recommend erebos too. what you do is you typically save most of your mana on your turns, and then cast all kinds of instants on other people's turns. prior to your next turn, you dump all your excess mana in erebos' draw ability. a lifegain theme works well

not sure it's a very viable way to do monoblack, but that's how control erebos works

>>50163900
>implying commander decks need to be good

found the try hard faggot

>>50164005
Functionality is also important, otherwise you're stuck with an nonfunctional, frustrating pile of cards that's no fun to pilot.

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>>50163854

>"There's a published paper that say it so that makes it factual"

No Anon.

No.

That's not how that works.

Hell, I even agree that America is basically an oligarchy, but some schmucks with a degree saying it doesn't make me believe it any more than I already did.

The most inane horseshit gets published in """Scientific Journals""" for the humanities.

>>50164038
No, America not being a democracy was already really obvious long before that paper came along.

>>50164049
>>50164038
Woops, basically repeated what you said there, and I agree that "scientific journals" can be bullshit, I actually recently listened to a podcast which actually discussed people making fake scientific journals as experiments to see if anyone would react.

It does however give it more credibility for when people start asking you to cite shit.

>>50163913
The WUBG one is probably the best in terms of playability and the easiest to upgrade.

>>50164098
I see, I was thinking of getting that one. Atraxa and deepglow skate seem amazing.

>>50163784
As an american, this is why I didn't vote.

Also because I believe that government that spans this much area is an abomination, but still.

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>>50161827
DID SOMEONE SAY LEGENDARY LANDS???
>>50163732
Amen. No politics discussion here. Only edh discussion.

Hey guys, do you have any links/suggestions for ultra budget decks?
Poorfag here.

>>50164229
Why have I got the thing for you!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mikaeus-extreme-sub-20-budget-edh

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>>50161827
So maybe it's not the BEST, but I'll be goddamned if it isn't the coolest.

>>50164308

good taste.

>>50164308
Its the best when you run Vampire Hexmage and Thespian Stage.

>>50164466
Best at gaining you 20 life to a sword to plowshares, is what I experienced.

>>50164561
>bringing out marit without counter backup

Why?

>>50163882
if she deals 21 to you through her upkeep cost do you lose?

>>50165178
Because not all commander decks can play counterspells.

>>50165246
Read up on commander rules, commander damage is only combat damage.

>>50165247
I mean you can play Not of this world in every commander deck. But that is about it I guess.

>>50165247
>>50165270
>>50165178
can it be countered? you're not casting marit

>>50165277
You are using counters to protect marit. Otherwise your opponent is gong to give you 20 life with it.

>>50165277
I meant counter back up for stuff like swords or path to exile, marit herself can't be countered. I guess you can stifle the dark depths trigger but that's about it.

>>50165322
>>50165324
right right, misunderstood the wording, my bad

>>50162016
>Foil Tezz
Which art? Also, what made you go for Breya instead of say, Atraxa?

This was my first EDH/ Commander from way back when. Its a bad deck.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dragons-in-a-deck/

>>50165465
>32 lands
>all those signets and cluestones
I hope you've improved since then anon

>>50165525
Signets are fine though

>>50165556
They're great, just not all 10 of them in a 5 color deck.

How many signets should be going in a four colour deck? I have mardu signets in for Breya atm.

>>50165556

10 signets in one deck is not fine Anon.

>>50165525

Nope!

Actually, I rebuilt it for a tournament. Lots of ramp, recursion, and fetch. Included Nicol Bolas because, why not? Didn't do too badly. But like I said in the comments, I keep it out of sentiment.

>>50165598

if your breya deck is anything like mine, then blue is the most important color, and mardu signets actually sounds actively bad. if there are 6 signets you can run in breya, you chose the worst 3, and are missing the best 3

of course your list might be different than mine, but i think blue is the most important artifact color, no?

>>50163451
I know a guy who just told me he did that

>>50163517

>Trump
>Single World Government

But Trump is explicitly anti-globalist and non-interventionist.

>>50165381
I can't imagine it would have anything to do with Breya being Esper, the Artifact Shard, colored. Or that she comes with Daretti, the Red Artifact Planeswalker.
Or that green only likes getting rid of Artifacts

>>50165643
You may have a point. I only have the Izzet atm, but I could easily get my hands on Azorius and Dimir too. Would it be advisable to run four? Maybe with Orzhov as the fourth? As there are a lot of Esper cards in my build.

>>50165381
The Duel Decks version. I actually like the art.

I like Breya's precon more and I like red more for the artifact interaction it gives me than green.

>>50164216
I want to fuck that spirit

>>50165777
Four sounds reasonable, especially since Breya lets you use them as sac fodder mid-late game.

>>50162263
>>50162327
>>50163260
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>>50163313
>>50163372
>>50163399
>>50163451
>>50163517
>>50163569
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>>50165709
FUCKING POLITICS IN MY /edhg/ REEEE

>>50165954
I know, I know

>>50165869
The most important of the two I want to get my hands on atm is actually the Dimir Signet. It gives more blue, but also black which I have a ton of in the deck.

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>>50165954
hmm?

>>50164308
Friend runs this in a Memnarch deck with no real synergy. It's just for fun. Last weekend he wasted maybe 8 turns to get out Marit because he wanted to finally do it. The Meren player forced him to sac almost immediately

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>>50161827
>legendary land
I've always been partial to Yavimaya Hollow.

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>>50166679
One of my friends added it to Kozilek a few weeks ago. He's been trying to pull it off for some time. I let him get it down to a few counters and then stole it. He conceded when I took off the last counter. To make things worse I was going to sac the token to a disciple of bolas

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/artifice-isnt-dead/

The build I have so far. Thoughts?

>>50165954
>not having politics in your edh game
This is like half the fun of edh.

>>50166843
You cheeky prick you.

Cool boros cards please. Im going to an lgs tomorrow and I want some ideas what to buy. Commander is irrelevant, I just want to have a boros themed deck (its Marath for green ramp), cards I have: Aurelia, Sf Mystic (with small package), Assemble the Legion, wr titans, purph, iroas, Adriana. Preferably not more than 10 bux a card.

>>50166931
W/R Gisela

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>>50166843
I don't do politics. I either beat everybody with a shit ton of creature tokens or i repeatedly blow up the field.

>>50166931
Sunforger with it's own package, ie. removal, Enlightened Tutor, Eladamri's Call, the two Mutations, Guttural Response.

>>50166938
Thanks, definetly buying her and feeling dumb I forgot she exists.

>>50167018
Cool idea, thanks. I need to think about this one doe, because it seems to eat a lot of slots.

>>50167058
You mean you weren't already running Swords to Plowshares, artifact/enchantment hate, tutors, etc?

>>50166843
i get super impatient with politics
plus if some wanker starts pontificating i get shitty with them for being a tosser

>>50161827
I'm fascinated by the challenges of a 5 colour manabase in commander. Are there any interesting decks that require 5 colours ?
My favourite idea so far was to just slam (nearly) all the conspiracy mechanics together and have fun.

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>mfw I will do the infinite combo trick with breya and my group will ban yet another commander for me to play

>>50167096
Sounds suspiciously like you made some dumb plays and are sulking you got called out.

>>50167131
If you like tribal, you can build 5 color eldrazi. I used Karona as the commander.

>>50167072
Deck is in the making currently. Hmm, I have StP and boros charm so these are definetly in. I also have Gamble but thats sorc. What are mutations btw?

>>50167195
Oh please. She's just an enabler. Most combos with her work independently, you just need a different trigger to actually do the kill. I'd even argue that with her there's more effort involved than some other commanders or commander-independant combos.

>>50166796
Funny how the build I am brewing is kind of similar.
Some stuff to consider: Dispatch, Thirst for Knowledge, Thada Adel, Master Transmuter, Sharding Sphinx, Skeleton Shard, Scrap Mastery(this one is critical in case someone wipes artifacts).

Also, in EDH I usually prefer Anguished Unmaking over Vindicate, since 3 life is almost always worth it being instant speed, and I don't remember the last time I needed to exile a land with it.

What are some good ways to build vorosh? He seems to lend himself to voltron, but I'm garbage at deckbuilding

>>50167245
Hell its doesn't matter, any commander that is UR/x I can pull off the combo but I am banned from those for other reasons

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>>50167233
Artifact and Aura Mutation. Depending on your meta you want a fair bit of artifact/enchantment hate.

95% of Sunforger targets are staples for the colours anyway so you'd do well to run it. Call and ETutor are hovering around $10 last I checked. White creature removal is obvious.

i wanna build an unusual deck with Trostani. give me some ideas

>>50167260
All of those are cards I'll likely get my hands on, though I have the Anguished Unmaking with which to replace the Vindicate, as you're right about the lack of need for land destruction.

>>50162327

delete your account

>>50167260
I could run Faith's Reward instead. What do you think?

>>50167312
Cool, thanks for help.

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I am going to make a grouphug/POLOTICS deck with pic related shortly. I've been doing a fair bit of research on which cards would be fun. However I am something of a noob, if anyone has experience with the commander or some zany suggestions on singles to run please advise.

>>50165736
>Esper
So is Atraxa, if you hadn't noticed.

Why do you post like such a cunt? Green brings a lot more to the table than just artifact destruction. Having access to GU shenanigans is significant. Your points are dumb and non contributors to discussion.

>>50167328
Voltron Trostani using coat of arms and runed stalactite.

>>50167387
Faith's Reward needs to played on the same turn, so if you don't have the mana, you won't be able to easily recover your lost artifacts.

Also, Scrap Mastery has a second utility, if you sac all your artifacts, you can return all the artifacts you had in grave AND switch all your opponents artifacts(most of the time, they lose all their mana rocks)

Guys, what are some essential cards for a Krenko deck?
I'm trying to build it as budget as possible, but want to know which cards I absolutely have to get.

/edhg/, I can't decide on which of the two EDH decks I'd like to build next. Help me out.

Wort the Raidmother: Spellslinger/tokens/ramp explosive kinda build

Sun Quan, Lord of Wu: Unblockable.dec with lots of stealing effects. Will feature Wu-Tang subtheme.

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guys which would y'all use in a R/W voltron deck (that includes Odric 2.0, mentor of the meek, ranger of eos, and bygone bishop in the 99)

>>50167846
Sunforger included as well, of course

>>50167846

Well, does your deck need more creatures or does it need more combat tricks?

>>50167391
glacial chasm

>>50167846

I don't like either of these but the goblin is better

>>50167716
Beetleback chief
Krenko's command/ dragon fodder
Hordling outburst
Goblin bombardment
Not sure how much preyseizure dragon is worth
Hymm of battle and the ritual that gives you R for each goblin you control
Burn at the stake

>>50167956
Well, I already have 34 critters. I guess the instant would be more surprising. The thing I like most about it is that the trample source doesn't target my creatures (which could have Protection from Red)

>>50168091
Archtype of aggression is another nice way to give your dudes trample in red.

>>50168113
Agreed. I was a little shy of it b/c of the double R

>>50168140

What colours are you in?

>>50167058
>>50167233
>>50167389
If you're in RWU, you can put in RU or WU counters and find them with sunforger.
>opponent taps out for their winning combo, you only have sunforger and RW untapped
>activate sunforger, search for Counterflux or Render Silent
>the toppest of lels

>>50168156
Boros

>>50168241

I've played a lot of various boros archetypes in the past. I don't think that RR is a problem. Unless you are on a budget?

>>50168276
Naw, now that I'm looking at it, the cost shouldn't be too hard to acheive. My pool has 15 fast red & 1 slow red compared to my 16 fast white & 2 slow white

>>50167792
So long as you know that you can only copy a spell once with conspire I recommend Wort.

>>50168319

Cool, I didn't think that I should be - I only worried once I got to RRR or WWW.

>considering buying scroll rack for yidris
>it's more than the price of the precon
>still considering it anyway
i am bad with money i don't even have that much and i buy stupid coslty shit like this all the time. help

You have just been given the ability to remove two cards from the Official EDH/Commander banlist. At the same time, you are allowed to add one card (that isn't a basic land) to the ban list.

What do you choose?

>>50168506
Literally going through the same exact thing right now. I'll do it if you do it.

I tried playing Alesha on xmage today. Is she just a shitty version of a reanimator deck? That's what it feels like. I want to build it, but I don't know if I would ever play Alesha over Meren. I think I would rather be taking people to 13 with tree than trying to get the combo to take someone to one.
Does anyone have a good decklist for her that isn't extremely expensive?

>>50168512

>le add one card to the banlist meme

Sol ring and mana crypt are a matched set, you ban them both, and instantly edh is a better format

>>50168512
Remove:
Gifts Ungiven
Recurring Nightmare

Add:
Sensei's divining top because it almost always makes someone's turn take at least a minute or so longer (if they're not really good).

>preordered all 4 decks off amazon
>they arrived on the 17th

reee

>>50168564
>Recurring Nightmare
lolno

>>50168562

Oh and if I have to unban stuff I'll unban sway of the stars because that card isn't even good and nobody would play it, the other unban would be coalition victory I guess, although that one is definitely dangerous

>>50168512
>unban
chaos orb & falling star. can someone tell me why these cards are banned anyway?

>ban
cyclonic rift

>>50168512

Remove:
Braids
Yawgmoth's Baragain (unless I'm missing something here, isn't it strictly worse Necropotence?)

Add:
Derevi
Deadeye

>>50168584

Chaos orb and falling star make no sense, the rules on how to arrange your permanents are unclear

>>50168512
add
>sol ring

remove
>prime time
>upheaval

>>50168587
>strictly worse Necropotence
Bargain gives you the card immediately and doesn't interfere with discard shenanigans.

>>50168579
How is it any worse than the other ludicrous value reanimation engines we have these days?

>>50168587
You are.

bargain gives you the cards right away and doesn't punish for being greedy

>>50168587
braids a shit

>>50168567
>all 4 decks
i'm gonna assume typo here

>>50168529
... fuck
tell you what. i'm just gonna hold off on the rack for a month or two, see if i need it. plus i really should retain some money for xmas gifts

>>50168613
sorry meant 5 decks

>tfw you saying this scared me and i checked just to make sure

>>50168587

Actually yawg's bargain is significantly more powerful than necropotence in edh, you ramp into it and win either that turn of the next guaranteed, whereas necropotence has the awkward timing restriction, and on top of that triple black pips mostly cancels out the benefits of the difference in cmc because you can't use colorless artifact mana to ramp into it

Also necropotence is on the cusp on bannable to begin with, much more broken than fucking deadeye nav

>>50168609
cannot be disrupted at all ever it's dumb

>>50168631
>Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery
u wot m8

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>>50168631
while I agree that it should stay banned, you are forgetting something

>>50168645
>>50168651
If an opponent ever receives priority and Recurring Nightmare is still on the table then you fucked up.

>>50168645
Returning it to your hand is part of the cost, so there is no time for an opponent to do anything between you playing it and it returning to your hand when you activate it.

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So let's say my 3-color deck has 36 lands, and 9 ways to make mana (6 rocks, 1 dork, 2 ways to search for basics). Is this an alright number of mana fixers? Is it more important to have more rocks or more lands? Should I take out some rocks and replace them with lands?

Basically, how many of your mana sources do you think should be non-land in a typical EDH deck?

Bargain is stupid as fuck

Any two pieces of fast mana let's you play it on turn 2 which guarantees you win on turn 3 if it resolves, because you can draw ~30 cards at instant speed before you untap at which point it should be quite easy to assemble a combo win

Notice how that doesn't work as easily with necropotence because if you want to draw ~30 that means exiling ~28 cards before you have a chance to use any of them

It's still possible to find a cheap two piece combo and exile the rest, could be bannable, but it's not as versatile

Also bargain is even dumber on turn 6 in like a sultai deck after you ramped a ton, you can likely win right there because you'll have mana to spare

Another stupid interaction is academy rector

>>50168687
Seconding this question

>>50168626
>>50168605
>>50168610

Okay, I get it. I guess I just felt Necropotence has certain advantages in that it is "put into hand" rather than "draw" because of things like Leovold/Notion Thief/Nekusar (and his tech).

what commander would trump play?

>>50168609
>>50168631
Pretty much this, it costs less than eldrazi displacer (it's closest type of competition), and can only be removed by counter magic. If it cost more or it was susceptible to removal it would be fine. As is you can't even krosan grip it.

>>50168701
>ban academy rectal

>>50168609

Because it's one fucking card that lets you repeatedly swap a creature and one in your yard, there's nothing even close to it

>>50168713

Probably Thrun, because he can't be stumped by anything.

>>50168713
doran?

>>50168712

You're righ, that's why I wouldn't say bargain is strictly better, it's just regular better

>>50168701
>academy rector
it has a fucking built in clause to prevent abuse

>>50168713
Hidetsugu

>>50168744

The interaction I was talking about is simply using it once to cheat on yawg's bargain, I'm not saying rector is broken

I was just talking up the crazy stuff you can do with the card, source: cube draft where I love picking it up

>>50168645
Right- but they can only do it if the stack is empty.

I have a rules question /EDHG/:
Let's say I have a Faerie Artisan in play, and it created a copy of grizzly bears. Then my opponent plays an avenger of zendikar. With my faerie artisans trigger on the stack I sacrifice it. Do I get to keep the bears when I get my avenger?

>>50168787
Your opponent does not get priority after it resolves, you do, and you activate the ability, which returns it to your hand as a part of the cost. Your opponent can respond to the ability on the stack, but Recurring Nightmare is already back in your hand as it's a part of the cost of activating the ability and not a part of the ability itself.

>>50168788
Are you asking if sacrificing the Artisan will make the trigger already on the stack...half resolve?

>>50168788

In that scenario your grizzly bears are exiled but you get a token avenger of zendikar that won't be exiled by any faerie artisans ability, even if you replay the faerie

>>50168816
I am asking if since the faerie has left play if it is treated as a different object when resolving the trigger. I already know for instance, that if while the avenger was still on stack as a spell and I sacrificed the artisans with a Mikaeus in play, I would get both. I do not know whether it checks if the faerie is a different object when the ability triggers or if it checks when it resolves, just that it does one or the other, and that I guess is the crux of the problem..

>>50168892
No. It knows what things that specific Faerie Artisan made. It's not going to suddenly start looking at what things the Faerie Artisan in the graveyard made.

>>50168843
So it checks if it's the same artisans when the ability triggers? Can you tell me what part of the wording makes it that way so I can resolve this kind of problem in the future with other cards?

>>50168729
Doran Trump, wall tribal

>>50168907
Whenever a card refers to itself by name, it means "This exact specific object". Any future Artisans you play (even if it's that same one that you recurred from your graveyard) are different objects, so they won't see that Avenger token as "tokens created with THIS EXACT OBJECT".

>>50168907

The last phrase on the card faerie artisans says exile all other tokens created by faerie artisans, faerie artisans is the name of the card and when a creature's rules texts used the card name, that name refers to that specific instance of the creature

If the ability was going to exile all tokens created by any faerie artisans, including flickered ones or reanimated ones or cloned ones or multiple copies in another format, it would say "exile all tokens created by cards named faerie artisans"

>>50168512
Unban Sundering Titan.

>>50166999
How do you win games?
I win 80% of my games by doing small nice things for the stronger players then having them make what they think is a small favor for me before I outright win with a board swing or smash their face and bring it down to a 1v1 where I'' almost guarunteed to win.

Nobody's caught on yet.
I do the same thing every time too.
Maybe they just like me as a person and take my kindness to be out of the good of my heart? Wahwah

>>50168978
>>50168990
Thank you. I was super unsure if a cards triggered ability would remember the object it was attached to if it left play but I get that it does, and the ability has to be triggered by a "new" artisan to keep stuff.

Is it Bo-SAY-joo or Bo-SAI-joo?

>>50168729
>>50168961

I think you mean:

>Doran Trunk

'Cause tree puns

>>50169033

Not the same guy but I never do anything overtly political like that, and I win plenty

We are political in the sense that everybody knows working together to stop the person who is currently closest to winning is the only way

Some of my wins are just an outright blowout, like I ramp really hard and the table can't come up with enough disruption before they get squashed, even though I'm archenemy

Other wins are when somebody else is archenemy in the early mid game but we do come up with enough disruption to stop them, and then I manage to seize the throne after answers/disruption have been used up

Some times there are multiple power shifts throughout the game

But I never do anything like "if you don't kill my commander I promise not to kill your planeswalker"

>>50168512
unban Griselbrand and Prime Time.
ban Deadeye Navigator.

>>50169081

The former

>>50169134

Is this just for the sake of fun or are you somehow deluded into thinking deadeye is more broken than griselbrand?

>>50169140
Well, I've been mispronouncing it for 10 years.

>>50169152
for the sake of fun.
I play against a lot of blue and I'm just tired of seeing the card.

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When planning a deck I have a mental list of "things my friends do that I hate" (pic related). What's on your list? How do you stop it? What are things you do that your friends hate?

>>50169033
Some groups really don't handle diplomacy well. My circle is like a cold war. We all sit there suspiciously until someone casts a spell that simply won't do, and then the nukes are fired. The end result is fairly similarly to >>50169130

>>50169177

If nobody corrected you yet then you only have a small part of the blame

Assuming you're even wrong, I've never heard anything official, but given that sensei in sensei's top is 99% pronounced sen-say, I see no reason why you wouldn't use the same sound in boseiju, bo-say-joo

>>50169081
say-ju

the 'eye' sound is made by AI
if it is EI then it sounds like 'ay' which is this case
example: Rei from NGE is 'Ray'

a western one is Kill Bill with Pai Mei, 'pie-may'

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>>50169189
I like to durdle until I hit the win condition I set for the deck, even though I could've won ages ago.

Also, I have pic related in every white Commander deck I've ever constructed. Yes, the duel decks version.

>>50169192
That kind of logic is far beyond my grasp.

Yeah, I'm not smart.

>>50169200
Thank you. Very helpful.

>example: Rei from NGE is 'Ray'
I don't know who that is so I'll take yer word for it.

>>50169152

Not that guy, but another supporter of Deadeye ban. The problem I have with Deadeye is so many decks just rely on "lolol deadeye into infinity" and the fact it can dodge removal so easily while doing so. I feel that it is very bannable for the same reasons as Prophet of Krupix.

>>50169223
>for the same reasons
for different reasons though

>>50169189

>things my friends do that I hate
Play Rhystic study and then clone it
Play 3 mana rocks before I've untapped for my turn 2

I either stop that shit with bane of progress or I beat them at their own game

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>>50169189
>>50169130
>>50169033

My group:

>I try to fuck the Derevi guy over with something like Titania's song or Ghostly Prison
>He gets all defensive "Why are you bullying me, I didn't do anything, seems like YOU are the dangerous one!"
>My group beats on me and removes my stuff because they can't use their sol rings
>Derevi puts out Winter Orb and a bunch of other prison effects
>Now none of us can untap anything and we watch Derevi play Solitaire for 20 turns and bitches if we try to scoop and start a new game.

My group has the worst fucking threat detection. Yeah, obviously I'm in it to win it as well, but I'm the kind of person who likes winning all-at-once or within the course of a few turns. Primarily because I know how much is sucks to be the one person in a pod that gets knocked out an hour before anyone or how irritating it is to watch the one guy combo masturbate for 20 minutes every turn.

>>50169236

Prophet ban as I understood it was because it allowed players to continually have access to mana to counter/protect anything... much like the deadeye infinite engines.

>>50169223

Deadeye doesn't really dodge removal very easily though, it only dodges removal if you werent prepared with instant speed stuff when it came down

Also there are no "lol ezpz" deadeye combos that don't involve landuntapping, everything else is super mana intensive

>>50168512
There are so many cards that are only banned because people abuse them.
Sylvan Primordial was bae, but of course there were the people who abusively flickered it and ruined it for everyone.

Still, I agree that if a card can be abused it should be banned.
Honestly if deadeye navigator was banned I wouldn't be surprised if prime time and the likes were unbanned. A good day that would be.

I'd unban Sway of the Stars though. 10 mana: win the game is not a strange concept to commander (see: Tooth and Nail, which is only 9)

>>50169285
Sway of the stars and the cards similar to it aren't banned because you could win with them (and you would need a hell of a lot more than 10 mana to be in a good situation when you resolve sway) it's because of the obnoxiousness of the spell. People that want spells like this to be playable have never been in a game where shaharazad has resolved multiple times. It sounds like it could be fun, but it's really fucking awful.

>>50169189
>Things my friends do that I hate
I have one particular friend that gets really ... really pissed if:
a) he doesn't win
b) he wins but not flawlessly
c) he is chosen as a target for anything during the course of the game
d) you retaliate when he targets you

So as a result I try and ignore him overtly ... while actually paying very close attention to what he does so that I can deal with him unexpectedly.

I'm sure that particular friend, if he notices I do it, hates that.

>My circle is like a cold war
Same ... and I'm the idiot that tends to cast the "simply won't do" spell so maybe that's another thing that would garner me some salt

>>50169490

Shahrazad is shit because it's so arduous to get through, sway of the stars doesn't extend the game it makes it end faster

>>50169572
Your boardstate is reset as well as the life total, you understand that right? Even if people get lethal hands it's still going to be 4+ turns before anyone starts dying, which is slower, since most of the time the game is ending when people have the mana for stuff like sway in the first place.

What are some good "fuck all creatures" cards?

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>>50169827
good luck getting one

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>>50169827

This guy with maze of ith

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>>50169827

>>50169827
Lethal vapors

>>50169991
Awesome
>>50169939
>>50169883
>>50169844
What about black cards that hate creatures?

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>>50170075

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>>50170075
this one's expensive

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>>50170075

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>>50170075

this is basically a shittier Dread Caco, though.

>>50161827

Guys I want to build an Atraxa stax/lockdown deck. I want to build this deck and have people be like "wow. fuck this guy." Where do I start? How many stax cards should I add? What should be the backup strategy to add synergy with the stax cards? win con? Thank you in advance for your help /tg/

>>50169645

Oh woops, I was mixing up its effects with upheaval. I thought it was 10 mana for the 7 life thing + upheaval, but that's a lot worse cuz the new seven might be slow

Great aurora seems better and advances the game more efficiently but has a similar effect

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>>50170200
Take notes. Wincon will be walkers with game ending ultimates. Here's how you buy time/stall

Pendrell mists
Winter orb
Static orb
Meekstone
Porticulus
Parallax tide
Stasis
Frozen aether
Lethal vapors
Smokestack
Rising waters
Mana Web
Arcane lab
Rule of law
Eidolodon of rhetoric


Do you want more? Pillowfort behind propaganda, koskun falls, aurification, silent arbiter, crawlspace, Collective restraint, sphere of safety. Run spiritual asylum.

Hope I helped

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>>50170252
***portcullis

If you want more, ask. I'll respond in the morning.

Also run glacial chasm, maze of ith, etc.

>>50170252
>Wincon will be walkers with game ending ultimates

What would be like the top 5 for this?

>>50170554
Karn, Jace Mind Sculptor, Sorin Nemesis, Vraska

>>50168687
I would say it is good. I'm phone posting at four thirty post election but if i remember when i wake up I'll link you to my best mana based deck on tapped out. It runs like thirty three lands and i never have problems. That said my commander costs three mana and my mana accelerants are also part of deck strategy. So bear I'm mind a more expensive deck or commander will need more mana in an opening hand. Bounce lands from ravnica are fantastic for lowering your land count because they are functionally two lands strapped together.

>>50168713
derevi or zegana

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I'm going to build Bruna 2.0 and try to get her melded with Gisela. Vaguely Angel tribal but only so far as it doesn't suck too much. Probably some humans, maybe some equipment and the swords since I have all of them and Jitte.

I've never played monowhite before, though. Anyone done it and have any advice?

>>50169285
What the fuck does it mean if a card gets "abused"?

>>50168626
i hope necropotence doesn't get banned simply because it makes monoblack work much better. i suppose with good manafixing it's also easily castable in 2 or 3 color decks too, so that's a bit of a problem.

>>50168687
A question first- what are you trying to do with your deck, what colors is it, what's the curve, how good or fast do you want it to be?

>>50167576
... That's amazing

I'm working on an Anafenza deck, and I don't want to do straight just+1/+1 counters. I'm curious if there are any cards that I'm missing that benefit or otherwise interact with cards in exile.
I was considering warden of the beyond, but Vigilance is a touch of a nonbo with Anafenza.
There's the Eldrazi Processors, and Wasteland Strangler is good. Blight Herder and Ulamog's Despoiler are on-theme I guess, but I don't want to put cards back too much.
Other than that, I can't find much that works with exile that doesn't just interact with my exiled zone ie: Riftsweeper, Wishes, or Pull from Eternity

>>50169033

My group generally has a slow build up with the occasional bit of aggression (swing with a small creature, target a key piece of a combo with disruption or removal, counter a certain spell) until someone drops that spell that shifts the game dramatically (Prossh, Skittles, Aurelia, Bruna 1.0, Deadeye + Great Whale, Niv + any sort of protection). Then that guy usually becomes the target.

My meta relies on commanders pretty heavily, although we all have 1 or 2 back up plans for when they become too expensive or otherwise unusuable.

>want to build a janky artifact deck with Breya
>look up Sen triplets price
Is there any chance of it being reprinted?

How much cmc do you guys think it is worth using Muzzio? I am planning around 25 artifacts in my deck.

Goddamn, I want to build my first EDH but I just can't decide which commander to choose.
I literally can't, there's too many options.

I had finally chosen Krenko but a friend of mine is already building it.

Help

>>50171957
What do you like playing in magic normally and what is your budget?

>>50172007
My budget is kinda low since MTG is really overpriced where I live, but I'd say about... 100 dollars? Maybe a little more.

And well, it's hard to answer what I play normally because I have several decks and they are all very different from each other.
So anything goes, really.
An anon recommended me the ultra-budget Mikaeus deck from tapped out, but that deck looks really annoying to play against, and I'll probably just play casually with friends and I don't want them to hate me.

>>50163882
h o r o b i

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is this guy a good commander? i really want to make an artifact deck

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What do you guys think about this card? Discarding all your opponent's hands seems pretty powerful to me. Not to mention you get a 5/2 body as a bonus.

>>50172109

"Artifacts you control have hexproof"

That alone makes him a decent (not the best one, of course) artifact commander. If you want the best of the best then get Arcum Dagsson.

/tg/, how do I best utilise Pride Kings without going full on Group Hug?

>>50172081
>>50171957
A-anyone?

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>>50171136
To me, abusing a card is breaking it beyond its intentions, or using a card to MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY. Have you seen a kemba deck cast sigardas aid t1 and puresteel paladin t2? In an all equipment deck? I'd say That's abusing puresteel and aid once they start doing work. Another example is playing endrek sahr and getting 30 counters on aetherworks marvel, only to keep the counters continually above 20. It's working BEYOND intended and performing at peak levels. Abusing the card.

The only other way I have heard people use the term"abusing a card" is pairing it into an infinite combo or the like.

>>50172339
I'll help. Give me a color and a theme. I'll keep the build under a $100

>>50172351
Can I be a dick and tell you to just build what you think is good?
Whatever color or theme is fine.

I appreciate the help, btw.

>>50172339
just get the new precons. 5 decks for like 140 bucks and each one of them comes with a ton of stuff to make other decks if they dont float your boat. all of them come with like 9 potential commanders too which is nice

http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/commander-2016/commander-2016-set-of-5?utm_source=manasource-post&utm_medium=manasource-post&utm_content=manasource&utm_campaign=youtube-post-manasource

>>50172384
Build Zada spellslinger then, that's cheap as fuck I think. And also monored you planned before though with a different focus.

>>50172351
>>50172339
>>50172384

Building "good" decks is up to you.

If you want a fun interactive deck that won't piss your friends off, go with kraj and plenty of weird Simic creatures and polymorph spells.

If you want to play something a different flavor, try going the semi mill route with lazav. Your win con in this is NOT mill, but using mill to get lazav into something big.

Or if you really like mill, go Phenax and really mill people to death.

If you want artifacts, go padeem/muzzio/arcum.

Go to edhrec and narrow your options down there.

>>50172110

very vulnerable to -X/-X effects, but I like him. I usually play him with Telepathy out just to make my group tense and just leave him indestructible

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Overwhelmed with freedom right now. What's a good RWU commander?

>>50172536
Build ruhan

>>50172536
There's not that many and they aren't hard to find. I know you're probably drunk right now, but that little bit of googling isn't hard to do.

>>50172547
The most american commander there is

>>50172536
R U H A N

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>>50172536
>>50172547
>>50172551
>>50172569
>>50172577

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

pair this with diplomatic immunity and steel wall, you'll be perfect

>>50172151
Punish your opponent (s) for playing lands:
>avatar of fury
>carpet of flowers
>gift of estates
>invader parasite
>land equilibrium
>land tax
>treacherous terrain
Benefit from your opponent (s) drawing:
>consecrated sphinx
>mind's eye
>psychic possession

>>50172536
Don't know about freedom but dem thighs hnnng

>>50165643
>>50165777

I'm running all 6 :^)

>>50172423
I'm struggling to think up a scenario in which you wouldn't want to immediately pop Night's Reach's divinity counter once it hits play

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Best flavortext for a commander?

>>50169827
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/oloro-the-lazy-dick/

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>>50173183
Niv, easily.

On one of the sites I usually buy singles, it lists Atraxa as Foil and normal, is there even a nonFoil Atraxa? Because it's like, half the price.

>>50173362
Are the legends this year foiled? I though the foils were the oversized cards.

>>50173362
Foil one is oversized. Nonfoil is the regular sized version that's an actual Magic card.

>>50173415
>>50173421
Weird, I thought that the oversized version would cost less, not more.

I always wanted to build a land deck and then I found these beauties. I don't mean a green ramp and goodstuff deck with lots of lands. I mean a land deck. Where I do things like turn all my lands into creatures for the turn and swing at mostly empty boards while I hide behind ward of bones and blinkmoth nexus + buffs to block the one or two creatures they have. But, is this actually a realistic plan in edh?

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>>50173461
DERP

>>50173461
Not really, artifacts are probably the most fragile card type in the game after creatures, and having destruction for them is staple in all decks.

>>50173493
Damn, but that's what I figured. Any way to build a land deck that doesn't boil down to ramp and goodstuff? Looked a little bit on tappedout but that's what they seemed to be.

>>50173450
Where are you looking? Maybe the seller wants to pull one over on people.

>>50173521
I have never saw one, but you could try some kind of turbofog with alternative win conditions.

>>50173421

Theyve changed the product from last year, the oversizedcards are foil as well as each of the commanders. All the new commanders will be foil, they only exist in foil.

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>>50173461
>>50173521

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/762011-nissa-vastwood-seer-an-attempt-at-creative

Thank me later

>>50167223
Eldrazy doesn't sound that great (and isn't it expensive because of modern ?). How does it play ?

Any other options ?

>>50173565
It's a shop called Cards of Paradise, it's pretty big here in Brazil, so I don't really think it is a scam.

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>>50167391
Zedruu was my first commander, although I built her a little differently from how she's typically built. If it's not already on your list, Brand is essential.

Another tip is to have a couple token generators so you can donate 1/1s. Also creates with ETB effects only are great donation targets because you get the benefits, and they only get a chump blocker. This guy is one of my favorites. He can shut down people early on if they're struggling on mana.

Also, it's worth mentioning that the game changes drastically when it comes down to 1v1. You want a way to take back your cards then. Like the aforementioned Brand.

>>50173521
Noyan Dar hard control.
Angry Omnath Valakut Scapeshift fuckery and nonbasic punishment.

>>50173589
A 5c deck can accomodate litterally any archetype you like. dont use the existing 5c commanders as inspiration because theyre mostly tribal or garbage or tribal garbage.

Ive seen 5c artifacts featuring reaperking, 5c lands featuring child of alara, 5c tier 1 foodchain combo featuring tazri, 5c superfriends featuring cromat, 5c creature type tribal featuring sliver queens. reanimator, enchantress, tokens, you name it.

5 colour decks get around the restrictions of the shitty commanders by the fact they can play the very best card in the format for every slot.the best ramp, the best removal, the best tutors, the best draw.

When you build 5colour deck, the world is your oyster. it really can be as simple as picking an archetype, finding the very best cards ever printed for said archetype, and shoving them underneath a cromat.

>>50173461
Other commanders you may want to consider are:
Titania for land saccing stuff
Kamahl, Fist of Krosa can turn lands into saprolings and overrun as activated abilities
Baru, Fist of Krosa shit out lands to make your creatures huge

In RG you have
Borbymogos Enraged pitch lands deal damage
Omnath, Locus of Rage shit out lands obtain elementals

And in BG:
Gritog horror sac or pitch lands to draw

>>50173461
It's how I play Jolrael to pretty consistent success. It's a sparse number of creatures who ramp lands, ramp spells, and a couple of banners <Beastmaster Ascension, Akroma's memorial>

It works well, and it's actually quite fun.

>>50173589
It does alright, you ramp hard, then drop fatties and hold your one void shatter for the board wipe.

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I want to build a retarded group hug deck only to play the most homosexual cards in the format. Can you help me find the most homosexual cards and cards with gay sexual innuendos in their name?

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>>50174141
Neck yourself

I was going to check the price of the commander cards, and I noticed that this set has some pretty expensive cards, I mean, Atraxa is being priced at $14, is this all hype? Considering the msrp being $35, some decks have their expected value over 3 times that.

>>50174226
Prices will drop dramatically, I can see atraxa holding a steady 10 $$ priceline

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>>50174301
>dramatically

>>50174226
Expect a drop in price in all cards in this commander, I think this is the commander with the highest ev ever printed. Atraxa, Breya, and Gaymen have considerably more value than Yidris, and Manwoman. But they are all still pretty ridiculous.

i must confess:i don't have money to play mtg.
if i had the money i would still be without friends to play with.
the closest mtg store is 30 minutes of public transport away, but even if it were closer i wouldn't have time to go and play since my only free day is sworn to d&d.

but thankfully i am autistic and i had tons of fun running wotc commander 2014 decks against each other alone on cockatrice. i can't possibly be the only one (r-right?).
can you suggest me some flavorful and fun semi competitive decklists to use this way? ( note that diplomancer decks sucks when playing this way)

>>50174514
Build a kraj deck

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>he casts sol ring T1 50-75% of games played
how does my group expose this cheating fuck

>>50174617
If your group does partial mulls then you have only yourself to blame.

Other than that you could cut decks, pretty fucking easy fix.

>>50174630
I'd rather catch him cheating tho

How come I don't see list that don't in Rafiq with hall of the bandit lord?

>>50174641
Just play cheatyface

Or Shattering Spree, Mox Monkeys, Nature's Claim, Annul, Crush...

>>50174194
More like Gaylows, amirite?

>>50169223
combo bullshit is why you run removal with split second

>>50174641
Literally impossible to prove he is cheating with intent on something like that. Also he probably isn't cheating in the first place. Between your bias and smart mulls it's not strange for it to look like he has a sol ring half the time.

>>50174699
Am I missing something? What instant speed split second removal hits deadeye?

>>50161827

Looking for some tips and critiques on my skittles deck. Built mainly with cards I already own with the exception of blightsteel and skittles. Is mono black even viable in a competitive edh enviorment?

https://deckstats.net/deck-11603671-801d7c40b2b9ede801bddf18a07bfb06.html

>>50174739
no one card. but that's true for a lot of combo bullshit. something like sudden spoiling is simply a prerequisite.

>>50174711
>>50174673
last time we played, first game, he went ring->signet->1 drop. T2 Meren
He needs to be eviscerated

>>50172339
You didn't give us anything to go off of in the format with the most diversity. So I didn't respond.
You basically went into an ice cream store and said pick something for me without telling me anything about what you like. How the fuck could I pick what flavor you like.
Commander is about building decks around mechanics or colors you like, so please give us even the slightest bit of a hint of how to help you.

>>50174789
He could seriously just be lucky. The fact that you are coming here to try to prove that he is cheating speaks volumes, as does the fact that by your own admission he does not get this shit in literally every game.

Seriously, just do deck cuts if you are worried about it.

>>50168512
Unban:
Chaos Orb, Falling Star

Hardly broken, if anything it would add to the fun of the format.

Ban: Mana Crypt

I'm fine with banning sol ring instead, but mana crypt is less available so it's my pick. Having access to much colorless ritiuals just turns to many games into, whoever doesn't get the turn 1 sol ring looses.

>>50174925
The reason they are banned is because you can't make the rules clear enough regarding these cards.

By the rules you can't actually tap permanents while a chaos orb is in play, since it is "arranging cards." It is definitely not the intent, and if WotC felt like it I am sure they could write a few dozen pages on the actual practices of the card, so it could be used, but they haven't. So it should stay banned.

Another vague thing about chaos orb is that "you cannot physically interfere in any way with the casting of this card" Which creates some bazaar states, since you can't actually breath out (since you breathing out could move the cards a bit) to speak to say, counterspell it. However since it is only the casting of the card you can't interfere with, once you activate the ability and toss the card your opponents can actually smack it across the room before it lands.

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>>50173585
Different anon here. That looks like a fun deck that i could easily make and make a few changes to fit my tastes. Looks like a good deck to throw in creatures like molimo. Thanks dude.

>>50172109

I play Sharuum the Hegemon for a few years now (without all the infinite combos) and it's a pretty fun commander if you like artifacts.

>>50174141
clergy en vec

>>50175315
Not him, but can you post your deck? I was going to build Breya, but I noticed that my deck was mostly Esper with a hint of red.

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When's the last time you've seen an altered commander at the table? How did you react?

>>50175705
Never. We usually don't do anything because we are afraid of ruining the card.

Anyone tried wall tribal? https://edhrec.com/tribes/walls

>>50175705
A guy at my LGS has a Jhiora altered as some My Little Pony shit.

I handle it by killing him first.

>>50175697

I'd love to but i'm drunk and don't have a decklist anywhere. Maybe i'll post it in a few threads if you have some patience with me.

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>>50170075
Spreading Plague and pic related, my favorite.

>>50171798
Yeah, fat chance. Not in a regular set, but maybe in special print like FTV or commander set, but I doubt it's gonna come soon. Not sure if Wizards wants that card in standard.

>>50173521
red green, ramp&LD just so you can stay on the board after you wildfire/burning of Xinge? random win con, country side crusher, blood moon, and alpha strike land spells.

>>50175806
If the theme of the deck is artifact recursion, I'd love to see it.

>>50175877
Yeah, I thought of it in a side product, I don't really think they are going to reprint Sen in a main set even if they revisited Alara. The card is good, but it looks like scarcity is playing a big role on her price.

>>50173362
>>50173415
There are oversized foils of the main commanders, and each of their normal sized cards are also foil. I'm not sure if each of the partner commanders are foil, but from what WotC said, it's assumable that they are foiled as well.

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Any anon getting planechase anthologies or am I the only one hyped about it?

It's my only chance of getting all the planes, I cant miss it

> pic related was my first commander

>>50176513
Planechase was fun to play, planes really added a whole new immersion to the game. I played a game of EDH with planes before, and it was pretty cool, even if a bit messy.

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>>50176513
>$150
No thanks, I'll just keep using a phone app for the 3 times a year I feel like playing with planes.

>>50176513
is Braids fun

>>50175917
Well, they did have a big boost in price, when the colour rule was changed. I never felt like they were anything special though.

>>50175705

My co-worker is a talented illustrator and painted her commander to be full-card art. She takes commissions from people down at the FLGS.

>>50165246
Are you literally retarded?

>>50176989
I really enjoy my Braids deck, not the guy who posted the picture. Got a lot of huge things like Darksteel Colossus, Tromokratis, Inkwell Leviathan; and then a bunch of clone effects

>>50176989
Pretty fun if you ask me.

She promotes big plays from everyone at the table. Ppl either take advantage of her and kill her before my turn but are focused for it or if they do not kill her, I get to steal/copy their stuff with the trigger on my turn or just bounce them.

The trick is that she never comes when I do not have a way to get rid of their stuff or simply clone/copy otherwise I'd have to rely on someone else to deal with the problem I am to blame for in the first place xD

If she phases out with an aura called Vanishing it's turns to archenemy

My deck has tricks such as time stop, has bounce stealing effects, clones, artifacts, a trinket mage package, treasure mage package and a Grozoth package which Ive been dropping recently

It wins with mindslaver taking whoever maybe the biggest threat, or with someone elses creatures or with old beats

Gather specimens wins games too

>>50161827
>Gaea's Cradle

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Decent include for Trostani tokens?

>>50177272
Also, forgot to mention, I am the guy of the photo.

If there is interest, I might share my decklist by the end of this week with a mtgsalvation link but first right now I have college exams to attend to.

>>50177330
Ye go for it would be nice to look at

>>50177323
Im the braids fag. I recommend seance!!!, phyrexian processor!!!, ageless entity!!!!, momentous fall!!!, voracious wurm, serra avatar (duh), angelic accord!!!, well of lost dreams!!!, alhamerets archive, mimic vat!!!, second harvest, pristine talisman, caller of the pack, feed the pack, pelakka wurm, blade of selves!!!, rohx faithmender, felidar sovereign, archangel of thune!!!, spike feeder, giant adephage, advent of the wurm, armada wurm, herald of the host, luminate primordial... congregation at Dawn behemoth sledge, mirari's wake

yep, I also play Trostanni and many others

>>50177323
On the actual card that I forgot to comment, I think it is medíocre for Trostanni... I can see it being played in Teysa Orzhon scion deck or my Radiant archangel deck.

I mean, it's a prety good card in by itself, but Trostanni to me appeals for lifegain shenanigans or populate huge ass tokens because she is not Rhys the redeemed!

As you see, if you got Trostanni and only 2 more creatures you gain 4 life total... and you have to invest mana to get a lowsy 1/1 spirit that flies.
You're better off playing Geint honored monk for five mana for that matter!

>>50177342

I totally forgot that I had this list very old list on tappedout!
Beware, this is my first list ever!!! There are no upgrades whatsoever, my list looks much diferent from this one that is my very first list on the deck EVER! It's a gem of my mtg life:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blue-eyes-braids/

I didnt play Gin, Taxias Core Augur and Consecrated Sphinx to not be considered a douche but yeah I had Memnarch in there since the start xD

The manabase is specially outdated! I will update this soon

Just realised I am making three consecutive posts here