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Tippecanoe & Tyler Too Edition

Previous thread: >>50065201

Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ
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>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ

Desired scans :
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
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7th of November in military history:

1426 – Lam Sơn uprising: Lam Sơn rebels emerge victorious against the Ming army in the Battle of Tốt Động – Chúc Động taking place in Đông Quan, in now Hanoi.
1811 – Tecumseh's War: The Battle of Tippecanoe is fought near present-day Battle Ground, Indiana, United States.
1861 – American Civil War: Battle of Belmont: In Belmont, Missouri, Union forces led by General Ulysses S. Grant overrun a Confederate camp but are forced to retreat when Confederate reinforcements arrive.
1900 – Battle of Leliefontein, a battle during which the Royal Canadian Dragoons win three Victoria Crosses.
1908 – Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid are reportedly killed in San Vicente, Bolivia.
1914 – The German colony of Kiaochow Bay and its centre at Tsingtao are captured by Japanese forces.
1917 – The Gregorian calendar date of the October Revolution, which gets its name from the Julian calendar date of 25 October. On this date in 1917, the Bolsheviks storm the Winter Palace.
1917 – World War I: Third Battle of Gaza ends: British forces capture Gaza from the Ottoman Empire.
1918 – Kurt Eisner overthrows the Wittelsbach dynasty in the Kingdom of Bavaria.
1944 – Soviet spy Richard Sorge, a half-Russian, half-German World War I veteran, is hanged by his Japanese captors along with 34 of his ring.
1956 – Suez Crisis: The United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution calling for the United Kingdom, France and Israel to immediately withdraw their troops from Egypt.
1957 – Cold War: The Gaither Report calls for more American missiles and fallout shelters.
1975 – In Bangladesh, a joint force of people and soldiers takes part in an uprising led by Colonel Abu Taher that ousts and kills Brigadier Khaled Mosharraf, freeing the future president Maj-Gen. Ziaur Rahman.
2004 – Iraq War: The interim government of Iraq calls for a state of emergency as U.S. forces storm the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah.
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It is 205 years since the Battle of Tippecanoe, fought near present-day Lafayette, Indiana, between American forces led by Governor William Henry Harrison of the Indiana Territory and Native American warriors associated with the Shawnee leader Tecumseh.

In the wake of the 1809 Treaty of Fort Wayne which saw 3,000,000 acres of land transferred from the Native Americans to the United States, Tecumseh began a rise to prominence. Angry over the treaty's terms, he revived the idea that Native American land was owned in common by all the tribes and could not be sold without each giving their consent. Lacking the resources to directly confront the United States, he began a campaign of intimidation among the tribes to ensure that the treaty was not put into effect.

While Tecumseh was working to build support, his brother Tenskwatawa, known as "The Prophet," had begun a religious movement which stressed a return to the old ways. Based at Prophetstown, near the confluence of the Wabash and Tippecanoe Rivers, he began garnering support from across the Old Northwest. In 1810, Tecumseh met with the governor of the Indiana Territory, William Henry Harrison, to demand that the treaty be declared illegitimate. Refusing, Harrison stated that each tribe had the right to treat separately with the United States.

Departing, Tecumseh began secretly accepting aid from the British in Canada and promised an alliance if hostilities broke out between Britain and the United States. In August 1811, Tecumseh again met with Harrison at Vincennes. Though promising that he and his brother sought only peace, Tecumseh departed unhappy and Tenskwatawa began gathering forces at Prophetstown. Traveling south, he began seeking assistance from the "Five Civilized Tribes" of the Southeast and encouraged them to join his confederacy against the United States.
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>>50128084
In the wake of his meeting with Tecumseh, Harrison traveled to Kentucky on business leaving his secretary, John Gibson, at Vincennes as acting-governor. Utilizing his connections among the Native Americans, Gibson soon learned that forces were gathering at Prophetstown. Calling out the militia, Gibson sent letters to Harrison urging his immediate return. By mid-September, Harrison had returned along with elements of the 4th US Infantry. Forming his army at Maria Creek near Vincennes, Harrison's total force numbered around 1,000 men.

Moving north, Harrison encamped at present-day Terre Haute on October 3 to await supplies. While there, his men constructed Fort Harrison but were prevented from foraging by Native American raids. Finally re-supplied on October 28, Harrison resumed his advance the next day. Nearing Prophetstown on November 6, Harrison's army encountered a messenger from Tenskwatawa who requested a ceasefire and a meeting the next day. Wary of Tenskwatawa's intentions, Harrison accepted, but moved his men onto a hill near an old Catholic mission.

A strong position, the hill was bordered by Burnett Creek on the west and a steep bluff to the east. Though he ordered his men to camp in a rectangular battle formation, Harrison did not instruct them to build fortifications and instead trusted to the strength of the terrain. While the militia formed the main lines, Harrison retained the regulars as his reserve. At Prophetstown, Tenskwatawa's followers began fortifying the village while their leader determined a course of action. While the Winnebago agitated for an attack, Tenskwatawa consulted the spirits and decided launch a raid designed to kill Harrison.

Casting spells to protect his warriors, Tenskwatawa sent his men to the American camp. The attempt on Harrison's life was guided by an African-American wagon-driver who had defected to the Shawnees. Approaching the American lines, he was captured by American sentries.
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>>50128095
Despite this failure, Tenskwatawa's warriors did not withdraw and around 4:30 AM on November 7, they launched an attack on Harrison's men. After a minor diversion against the north end of the camp, the main assault struck the south end which was held by an Indiana militia unit known as the "Yellow Jackets."

Shortly after the fighting began, their commander, Captain Spier Spencer, was killed followed by two of his lieutenants. Leaderless, the Yellow Jackets began falling back. Alerted to the danger, Harrison dispatched two companies of regulars, who, along with the Yellow Jackets, sealed the breach. A second assault came a short time later and struck both the northern and southern parts of the camp. The reinforced line in the south held, while a charge from Harrison's dragoons broke the back of the northern attack.

For over an hour Harrison's men held off the Native Americans. Running low on ammunition and with the rising sun revealing their inferior numbers, the warriors began retreating back to Prophetstown. A final charge from the dragoons drove off the last of the attackers. Fearing that Tecumseh would return with reinforcements, Harrison spent the remainder of the day fortifying the camp. At Prophetstown, Tenskwatawa was accosted by his warriors who stated that his magic had not protected them. Imploring them to make a second attack, all of Tenskwatawa's pleas were refused. On November 8, a detachment of Harrison's army arrived at Prophetstown and found it abandoned except for a sick old woman.

A victory for Harrison, Tippecanoe saw his army suffer 62 killed and 126 wounded. While casualties for Tenskwatawa's smaller attacking force are not known with precision, it is estimated that they suffered 36-50 killed and 70-80 wounded. The defeat was a serious blow to Tecumseh's efforts to build a confederacy against the United States and the loss damaged Tenskwatawa's reputation.
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>>50128098
Tecumseh remained an active threat until his death in 1813 at the Battle of the Thames. On the larger stage, the Battle of Tippecanoe further fueled the tensions between Britain and the United States as many Americans blamed the British for inciting the tribes to violence. These tensions came to a head in June 1812 with the outbreak of the War of 1812.

When William Henry Harrison ran for President of the United States during the election of 1840, he used the slogan "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too" to remind people of his heroism during the battle.

The wars of the young American state fighting against the Indians of the "Old Northwest" have always been a popular gaming subject. Terrain and manoeurve become all important, and the focus on company-sized actions is perfect for skirmish fans. At the moment there are a number of appropriate rules systems available.

(There is actually a Campaign covering this battle, and a recent one too, but as luck would have it I can't find it anywhere online.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bg759w9l37fnkvb/Osprey+-+MAA+352+-+The+United+States+Army+1783-1811.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/u8vkiv5tou9lw0q/Osprey+-+MAA+467+-+North+American+Indian+Tribes+of+the+Great+Lakes.pdf
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This month's community project is a recon or scout asset.
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>>50128141
To when it is due?
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>>50128259
The 16th
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Anything new and exciting in the troves lately?
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Lets talk about Waterloo.

I got the Black Powder starter set and started to research the units involved at Waterloo.

A french infantry brigade is roughly 2000 men strong.
Excluding the reserve brigades and brigades with light infantry regiments each brigade consists of two regiments, which itself consist of two battalions, each 6 companies strong.

Looking at the Perry and Warlord boxes one battalion consists of 36 figures, six each for one company. This makes a brigade four units, each 36 figures.


On the british side though brigades range from 2000 to 4000 men and each brigade has different unit types and sizes.
For example III/1st Foot Guards is roughly the strength of a french regiment but consists of ten companies. So, would I split the unit in two 30 figure units, each representing five companies or make it a huge 60 figure unit and double its stamina, shooting and hand to hand combat stats?


Is this problem worked out in the waterloo supplement book?
Are there common ways to handle this problem in the historical war gaming community?
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>>50128376
Sorry, what is the problem?

Is your question about the differing sizes of French and British battalions?
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>>50128376
>Are there common ways to handle this problem in the historical war gaming community?

Yeah;
1: Don't fret about it too much.
2: Unit size is generally more important than figure count. Just increase the 1 miniature = however many people ratio until acceptably not insane.
3: Play in 6mm or 10mm if you are genuinely insane or rich of space, time and money enough to even consider a unit of 60+ miniatures as something to be gamed with, especially in 28mm
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>>50128376
sorry rereading it I think I understand - the problem is that you would end up with a double strength unit due to army organisation.

I don't play BP, but in general in wargaming you want units to be fairly similar in numbers (even though the manouever elements of different armies had different sizes) to avoid unstoppable super units.

For example the Grande Armee rulebook has a system for creating army lists from historical orders of battle, but suggests that units shouldn't too often go above a strength of 9 (i dont remember the exact number but it's around that) and that if they do you should consider breaking the unit into 2 smaller units of 5 and 5 or 6 and 6 or what have you.

Ergo I would put the Foot Guards in as 2 units of 30.

If that isn't your question then uhhh never mind.
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>>50128376
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't Black Powder fairly scalable? A "Unit" can represent something as small as a company or large as brigade, no?
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>>50128463
>1: Don't fret about it too much.
This is how Napoleonics should be approached under any circumstances.
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>>50128731
Napoleonics should be treated like a good bit of Sharpe's imo. Rousing tales of history being the main draw, with the dedication to historical accuracy being important, but not to the button-counting level.
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>>50128731
Yeah.

1) How many men were doing fight that day?
2) How many units were they divided into?
3) How many toy soldiers do you have handy that you can fit on the table?

Massage numbers until your toy soldiers are appropriately distributed with approximate density - that is, if one side has larger units, their units should be a bit bigger. If one region of the battlefield had twice as many regiments as the other flank, put more units there.

>>50128463
>3: Play in 6mm or 10mm if you are genuinely insane or rich of space, time and money enough to even consider a unit of 60+ miniatures as something to be gamed with, especially in 28mm
Haha! 60+ miniatures! What kind of moron...!

My 2017 plan involves a bunch of Charles Grant's The War Game-sized regiments of ancient spencer smith minis, so 48 rankers and 5 officers a unit. but at least they're cheap and not excessively detailed, I should be able to paint them without going crazy.
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>>50128777
>My 2017 plan involves a bunch of Charles Grant's The War Game-sized regiments of ancient spencer smith minis, so 48 rankers and 5 officers a unit. but at least they're cheap and not excessively detailed, I should be able to paint them without going crazy.

And argh, fuck, I just discovered these: http://www.caliverbooks.com/Partizan%20Press/partizan_18thTTT.shtml

Going to have to buy a few, based on battle write-ups I've seen on blogs. I always have enjoyed CS Grant's scenarios... there goes even more money.
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>>50128886
Given your plans, looks like you could spare the cash anyway.
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>>50128463
>>50128479
>>50128777
I did some math and dividing the number of soldiers by 20 and rounding to even numbers and dividing units over 40 figures produces good results except for some huge units.
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>>50131157
You'll get bored by the second unit.

I use universally 24-men units.
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>>50131157
1 miniature = 40 people is not an uncommon scaling. Produces reasonable sized units as even a 1000 strong is only 25 figures.
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How does Osfront handle artillery?
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>>50131301
when you move to a battle where 1 unit is 1000 men maybe 28mm is no longer the best choice.
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>>50131361
And airstrikes, for that matter
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>>50131419
No, but people do insist on doing it that way anyway.

I have played in a game like that but it was on a 21'x6' table with a half dozen others and not using our own models. Good times were had but utterly impractical for gaming under normal conditions.
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>>50131419
Eh, it's abstract. It's about playing with toy soldiers at that scale. Looks pretty cool to me, although of course playing in 6mm or 10mm or 20mm is perfectly good too.

28mm's nice even on a small board with a handful of 12-figure units on 4" frontage.
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What's a good book on the Thirty Years War? I've heard the aptly titled The Thirty Years War by C.V. Wedgwood is a pretty good one, but I figured I'd ask /hwg/.
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>>50133277
Been wondering about this also, pretty hard to find stuff in English about it that's actually good but not out of date or incredibly restrictively priced.
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>>50131361
>>50131463

You and your opponent include "units" of air support in your army lists up to a certain limit defined by the scale of the battle. When the game starts, air support cancels each other out. If you bought three and your opponent two, you get to keep one. At the start of each of your turn, roll 1d6 per unit of air support, a result of 5+ gets you an air strike.

They're powerful, but expensive and a little hard to call in. I like to include 2 to 4 units, depending on the points available. AA units can protect other units within their range from air attacks, but the best AA can be as expensive as air support itself.


Artillery is a unit on the field. You call out a target without measuring and, depending on the distance, throw a number of dice along with a scatter die. The result is direction and distance.

Artillery is expensive and somewhat unreliable when it comes to hitting things, but still good against infantry and light vehicles.
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>>50133436
I enjoyed "Europe's Tragedy" although I'm not sure how good that makes it.
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>>50133955
The air support system seems neat, a nice little bid kind of thing going on.
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>>50133955
Nice, simple and engaging, I like it.
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>>50133955
So you don't have off-table artillery?
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>>50134092
I've heard both good and bad about it. Which isn't helpful.
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>>50134549
You can buy preliminary bombardments, which are used right after deployment. Larger area of effect, but wildly inaccurate. They're the only off-map artillery option I think.

If you're willing to deal with the added scatter, you can put your artillery further in the back, where they can only be hit by counter artillery, air support or expensive units that are short on targets. The last one isn't that likely to happen in my experience.
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Have some WiP Romano British
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what is the best scale to get tanks for a fistful of tows and how many vehicles would i need for a good game.
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>>50135565
6mm, and depends on the sides, though usually about 10-30 a side is good for tank complements, double that for mechanised or motorised infantry transports. Easiest thing is to go for a company/battalion/regiment structure.
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>>50135565
yeah 6mm. 3mm would also work.

You could start with just getting a battalion per side and grow that up to larger units as you get more models. For scenarios obviously you'd want larger force for the attacker (typically 2 to 3x the defenders) but just to get playing a couple Bns will work for a meeting engagement.
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Looks like Hobby Boss is starting a line of quick build armor kits
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>>50136209
Interested to see how the track setups are for a quick build.
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>>50136209
What scale?
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>>50136383
1/72
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>>50135099
>>50135151
>>50135171
Very nice looking Anon
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>>50135565
Whichever scale you like. If you have the space and money for 28mm, be my guest.
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>>50134849
In the last game I played I was able to sneak a T-34/85 and an aerosan right around the opponents flank and destroy both his artillery batteries. That doesn't happen very often, and I just happened to be in a position where I was behind cover and protected from most of the enemy guns, and could spend 2 turns picking off one battery, then move slightly and spend another 2 turns picking off the next one. It was the end of the game by the time this happened, but I think it helped my infantry in the centre survive, and helped me win the game.

You can see the T-34 and aerosan in the top left of this pic. That huge piece of terrain to their right gave them cover from all the big guns. You can see the first howitzer battery turning and attempting to shoot open sights at them (it has the horse on the base, just to the right of the terrain piece)
There was a king tiger and a tiger that I tried my best to take down but just couldn't. Literally spent my entire game firing 2 howitzer batteries at that king tiger - only managed to damage its tracks. Artillery isn't the most effective way to take down heavy tanks heh. Air support is much more effective, but less reliable.
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Anybody have any recommendations for painting German uniforms? I have some Vallejo German field gray but I think it might be a little too green.
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>>50139346
Wip volksgrenadiers for German fieldgray
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>>50139353
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>>50139353
>>50139346
>German field gray
>but I think it might be a little too green.
>German fieldgray

OH SHI-
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>>50139368
Nah it's field grey
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>>50134092
>>50134680

I also enjoyed it, but then I'm the sort of person who sees a 17th century currency-conversion chart and pores over it closely instead of throwing the book away in disgust, so bear that in mind
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>>50139346
>>50139353
>>50139364

I also thought this when I first got it, but everyone assures me field grey uniforms really were that green. If you look at reenactor's uniforms, they very a lot, from greener than that to full-on grey.

You could gently drybrush it with a light (proper) gray highlight to make it slightly greyer without losing the greenness if you want something more like the pic on the left, or use a brown wash and mix 2:1 field gray+white for highlights to get it more like the pic on the right

warlord probably has a tutorial for this now that i think of it...
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>>50139721
Thanks. I suppose the variation makes sense, given the allied bombing campaigns. I'll do a highlight on some to add to that aspect.
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>>50136209
>>50137102
Well, it's awesome to see, tho I'm really uninterested in the Merkava as I happen to have six of them for some reason.
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Iam most likely receiving the Painting War Napoleonic British and French issues today, would there be an interest in scans of those?
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>>50135428
>those mountains
That is a pretty board that I would be proud to play on.
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>>50140629
Stuff like that is always gratefully appreciated anon, so go ahead if it's no hassle (I know how much of a pain scanning can be).
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>>50139346
>>50139353

Fieldgrey is very greenish.

You can use a blue wash if you want to represent some more blue-ish batch, but green-brown-grey is the best and most fitting color, especially for late war.

Your blue helmets and the cap look very out of place though. Besides, thats a camo cloth covered helmet, so it shouldn't be blue anyway.
>>50139353
>>50139364
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>>50139721
>>50139346

This was probably posted 5000 times already, but here you have it again. Almost everything works for german late war units when soldiers from different original units were merged into new squads/battalions etc.
A unit which was formed in Nuremberg and trained in Poland and sent to Belarus would wear uniforms from a different batch than a unit formed in Hamburg, trained in France and then sent to Ukraine. And if in 1944 soldiers from both of these divisions were merged into a new Volksgrenadierdivision, they would get new cloth, but wouldn't replace ever part of their stuff with the new ones, so in the end you had a unit with gear from 3 origins.
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>>50141746
Dont forget replacements from nearly everywhere.
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>>50141746
This is the real beauty of historicals. I can tell someone to fuck off when they don't like my colors, because as long as it ain't neon, its probably a color that got worn on the battlefield.

..well I got a friend who is playing to paint up some germans in Wolfenstein 3D colors, that might not be accurate.
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>>50141899
>I got a friend who is planning to paint up
i make some weird spelling errors sometimes
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>>50140629
I don't know, did Napoleon lost at Waterloo?

Absolutely mate, especially if you have a decent scanner, sadly the WW2 German leave something to desire.
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>>50142312
I have the German one in the mail too, as the scan was of unsatisfying quality and missing pages.
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>>50138893
>Less reliable

Every single game I try to field a Tiger it gets instantly BTFO by the USA and it's unlimited airstrikes. I've decided to drop it for a couple of Pzkf IIs at this point.

How does Recce interact with air strikes?
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>>50142769
>How does Recce interact with air strikes?

Are you talking about Ostront or Bolt Action?
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>>50142769
If you're worried about your heavy tank being air-striked, take a "neutralizing" air element: 1 or 2 air support units, and some Flak88s and maybe mobile AA. Flak88s are great for defending against air strikes, or perhaps quad flaks. If you can knock your opponent down to 1 or less air support, it will become much less reliable, and when it does finally show up, you'll have a good chance of defending it with your AA defense units.

Medium tanks are pretty reliable in ostfront, things like the PZ.III and Pz.IV perform pretty well and are relatively cheap and you wont mind if one or two get blown up. always worth taking a few.

Recce requires you to play with the recon cards - the first unit to make contact with the card can take it into their hand - it could be a free air strike or artillery bombardment, or a camo tank appearing, or it could be a free shot during the enemies turn. Essentially recce gives you a minor bonus, not really game breaking but a boost to reward you for scouting out the area before the enemy.

You could potentially use mobile AA trucks as recce - they're not as cheap as regular armored cars and jeeps but pretty much a bofors on a truck with can fire at ground targets or defend from air strikes - pretty versatile.

What size games do you guys usually play? how are you finding the system?
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So, i've got the new Armies of Germany book and i'm really disappointed at this point.

None (expect the Sturmpioniere) of the "new" units (from the Blitzkrieg, Desert, Ostfront or the Western front book) are in the new book. No Brandenburgers, no Stug-Begleit..

At least there is an entry for Mountain troops now.

Lots of spelling errors.

Theater selectors are lacking. Some from the mentioned additional books are missing, others really lack originality and are simply copied over from the first edition of the book.

There is, for example, the "Anti partisan security patrol" selector for eastern front 43/44.

The book allows only Heer Infantry, Waffen-SS (early) and SS-Cavalry as infantry choices here.

Why not allow units such as Osttruppen or Luftwaffe-Fielddivision (or even the new Gebirgsjäger like SS Handschar for example) for these security actions.

Its really lame.
The mini i got with the book looks great (and has almost no flash/mold lines), but since medics can't have rifles its use is kinda limited..
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>>50142896
>but since medics can't have rifles
AFAIK they can, or at least they could in 1st ed.
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>>50142921
1st edition: Pistol or none
2nd edition: Pistol or none
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>>50142931
Eh, wouldn't fret too much about it anyways. In the Eastern front Soviets didn't really give a shit about medics' crosses, so they got some weapons with them.
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>>50142953
True, and personally i don't care since the mini looks really good, but it feels kinda sloppy to have rules that say A and then the model shows B.
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>>50142896
What are the special rules Germany has now?
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>>50143711
Blitzkrieg (Officers can activate +1 one unit compared to the other nations, so 2nd LT can activate 2 instead of one etc)

Tiger-Fear (Tanks with that rule (Panzer 4 G and bigger) will give every enemy +1 pin if in direct line of sight for their activation. Only shots against the "tiger" are tested without that extra pin)

Initiative training (Same as in the old book, but it got buffed so the NCO is replaced if you roll a 2+ instead of 4+. I think this was already in the V2 core rules)

Hitlers Buzzsaw (+1 dice for machine guns. Now also vehicle-mmgs)
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>>50142896
Have they made the special rules abit to good

>Lots of spelling errors.
they really are ex GW
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>>50144251
Hard to tell if the rules are too good, i have not played with them yet. Time will tell.
But since they lowered the range of ARs maybe it balances itself out nicely.

I never used a Pz4 or one of the bigger tanks. (I always felt a Pz3 or Stug combined with Panzerschreck and -fausts is enough AT). I might get a Pz4 now to see how that Tiger fear works out.
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>>50144251
why did you change "too" to "to"
it was correct the first time
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So i started to paint these soviet scouts. Its the first time i attempt to paint "Amoeba"-camo.

How does it look? Alright or should i re-paint them?

obviously wip so pls don't tell me that there is no wash/highlight :^)
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>>50144381
>>mouldline

Otherwise, it's looking nice.
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>>50144402
FFFFFFFFFFFFF...

seriously.. i hate metal minis. I always miss some.
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>>50144381
Are you a texture paint fot the bases?
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>>50144444

Nice quint.

Yes, its vallejo "brown earth" texture paint. Once washed and drybrushed it will way better than now.
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>>50144381
The uniforms looks nice. You need to do something about the metal bases on your bases, though. Looks moderately like shit right now.
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>>50144503
Yes, i will either slap on more of the mud paste or glue a little bit of sand around the metal base in the middle.
Its always a bit tricky with the texture paint because it shrinks as it dries and then that "edge" is visible again.
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>>50144524
I would advice some putty for the initial bulk filler, saving the paint 'til last.
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>>50144524
static grass patches are good at hiding them
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>>50144579
Putty like GS?

>>50144592
That will be the last resort, but a bit more texture paint should be enough.

I'll post some more pics once i did some more painting.
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Any good painting guides for modern US desert camo? Couldn't really find any.
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>>50144675
Is a video ok too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTTSgtUYfS0&index=13&t=1441s&list=PL5hm9OqGuJAQAzUfoQSFWOtvAOrmoW_00
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>>50144710
Yup, thanks! Totally forgot she did a video on these.
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>>50144471
What's the consistency like? Their white pumice paste is thicc enough that you can use a spatula to sculpt it on the bases, a brush almost doesn't work. The white stuff works great for hiding the base edge. Is the brown stuff thinner?

:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/294736.page
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>>50144668
GS works, but stuff like polyfilla, spackle or something similar works just as well for this, and is much cheaper (especially to no-brand stuff) Cover it with a layer of wood glue to seal it, and it's surprisingly durable as well.
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>>50144757
Its thin enough to use it with an (old and fucked up) brush.
Sculpting something into it could be possible, but i think its hard. I never tried.

Once dried, it feels a bit like rubber, and you can scratch it of the edges of the base with your finger nail if necessary.

>>50144765
I'll see if i can find something. Thanks.
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>>50144710
>M16 painted grey
Strange that she would put so much effort into getting the camo right and then paint the gun flat grey. It should at least be a metallic grey, if not more of a black / metallic black.
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>>50145032
girls can't into guns..
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Are there other 28mm Napoleonic plastic miniature producers except Warlord Games and Perry Miniatures?

I know about Victrix but dont like their sculpts.
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>>50145032
That's kind of how color scaling works though, painting things lighter than they should makes them look better at small scales, it was a bit overdone, but that's the idea.

Also blueing makes things not metallic in color, modern rifles really aren't that shiny, slightly glossy maybe, but not metallic. Using flat colors isn't that bad of a choice at scale desu.
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>>50144811
Sounds like more or less the same stuff. Smear a thick glob of it along the base edge and fill in the step. It'll take a bit of time to dry but should hide it well
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>>50145363
I just fixed them. I'll let them dry for the evening to see how it turns out.

Pic related.. looks like a big pot of shit.
I really like it though. Bases are so much easier to do with it and i can use it to weather tanks too.
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>>50145295
I did some color testing a few months ago and decided anything from flat black to any sort of dark blue-grey is suitably realistic.
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>>50145821
>>50145295
I'm lazy and usually just use vallejo german dark grey (same color as the blitzkrieg era tanks) for my modern/ww2 guns. After that some very subtle highlights/drybrush with "gunmetal" paint and its done.
Might not be 100% correct, but looks better than a shiny weapon.
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>>50141746
Don't forget wearing looted russian coats because they actually stop you freezing to death and your shitty nazi coat lined with stolen fur and made by slaves is now a lump of solid ice-mud and didn't even fit in the first place because it was designed by idiots while the russians could just snip off the buttons and get a decent fit by sewing a new one on in a better position.

german winter coats were real bad.

but at least they had the comforting embrace of panzerschokolade.
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>>50142896
>There is, for example, the "Anti partisan security patrol" selector for eastern front 43/44.
Ooh, are they releasing a new russian book with a women & children list?
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>>50143720
Isn't that a plastic toy fort from a board game? It looks suspiciously familiar.
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>>50146653
The picture is from the Perry's facebook, if you look up the post you might be able to see it from more angles which might help.

It's a from a WWI Siege of Kut game.
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>>50146640
>>50146630
Oh hey its the butthurt slav again:3
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>>50146685
I know exactly what it looks like, I just can't remember the bloody thing it's from. I've seen other wargamers use it. Time to google random shit.
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>>50146775
And no, I'm wrong. I was thinking of the one from Weapons & Warriors: Pirate Battle, as seen here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20071227144940/http://www.zeitcom.com/majgen/38miscst.html

(if you haven't seen it, https://web.archive.org/web/20071228014907/http://www.zeitcom.com/majgen/index.html is a really bloody good site for colonial stuff, sadly offline but preserved via the good folk at the internet archive)
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>>50142830

I've played games from 100 to 500 points, mostly late war, as Soviets and Wehrmacht. Soviets feel pretty straightforward thanks to the T-34. Wehrmacht is a bit harder to play, I've tried to move away from multiple heavy tanks and field some FlaKs and PaKs with Panzer IVs instead.
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>>50144415
>FFFFFFFFFFFFF..

you're trying to tell us you didn't notice it whilst painting it?
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>>50143856
I like Bolt Actions national rules, but the imbalance of them and the fact that there's no points cost differences for units which use them rankles me.

If I took a German force with a 2nd LT, 2 squads of 10 men both with LMGs and a Panzer III Ausf.L, and ran it against the same Hungarian force (replacing the Panzer III with the Turan II, the same tank stats wise) the German force is objectively better.
The officer is better, the infantry are better thanks to the LMG and the Panzer III has two more MMG shots and scares all Hungarian forces which can see it.
Absolute nonsense.
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>>50147076
The hungarian forces could have a german unit too though. (For example the Pz 3, which would also have the +1 mmg rule).
Also their officers are fanatics.

And if its not some lower tier german unit but regulars a german unit would perform better than hungarian units in general so its kinda fits.

Panzer 3 won't get Tiger Fear btw, only Panzer 4 (with long 75 gun) and bigger stuff.
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>>50128069
>Desired scans

I uploaded a lot of books for /his/, not sure if I have any Ospreys you don't but thought I'd share anyway

https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ
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>>50145562
>looks like a big pot of shit.
So like any Citadel paint after a week of purchasing it :^)

If I might give you an advice, drop the stuff and get the Vallejo equivalent.
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>>50147820
>shitton of books about the 'nam
>when I need to finish my Vietcong

Charlie don't surf, thanks anon, some reading material on the topic was much needed anyways.
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>>50135800
What if I want 1:1 tank and man representation? Or at least 1:1 with figures on bases
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I think I'm going to get into bolt action. Hopefully this guy at my FLGS will be in as well.
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>>50148880
What army do you want to build?
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>>50148901
Well if me and this guy split two of the starter boxes he said he wants Germans. America is fine with me but I'd really like to have some cromwells
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>>50148996
gotta play brits for cromwells mien duden

great at blocking fire from infantry
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>>50146653
Yeah. I've seen the same fort in loads of games
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>>50148996
>split two of the starter boxes

Don't.

If you buy the starter box twice then thats 85€ for each of you. For that price you could buy either a 1000 pts starter army or one of the "build an army" deals Warlord offers on their website.
You get more for your money there.

2x the US side of the starter box gives you: 48 Airborne. And a couple of dice etc.

2x the GER side of the starter box gives you: 24 Grenadiers (less than 1 box) and 2 Halftracks (which are not really good anyway and you can't use 2 of the up-gunned version in one list anyway.. well, you could, but thats not effective).

Talk with him about that.
The rulebooks are all in the OP, and with the "build an army" bundle you even save a few bucks to get a pack of order dice.
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>>50149040
Roll a dice, on a 2+ the Secretary of State doesn't answer your call
Re roll 1s
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>>50149063
Yea I know. It still seems worth it for the rule book + 2 forces I can demo. Everyone is riding sigmars lightning tool and it's driving me insane
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>>50149040
Jesus. I'm normally OK with gaming current events but you just know that's gonna attract all the "I don't know how to hide my power-level" full-spectrum autists
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>>50149083
FLGS doesn't allow printed rules or PDF (I think) makes good sense though, even though he doesn't stock anything for bolt action.

So if I want to demo the game I need to have at least one rule book
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>>50148668
Then go 3mm and do it.
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>>50149178
Understandable, but pretty annoying. Lots of people "buy" (:^) ) their rules as pdf to read on a tablet these days.

Maybe you can find a cheap book on ebay? For starting off, even the old one would be enough.

Like 2 month ago there was a promo thing at wayland games. If you ordered more than x gbp they would give you the BA rulebook for free on top (to clear out their stock of old books i assume). An other store sold the V1 books for literally 1 pence.

As i said, 2 times the starter box gives you a very limited force for each of you while you could get way more miniatures for the same price.
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>>50149356
Glad you told me. Guess I'll look at bong army deals
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Finished my submissions for this month's project:

Top are Koln and Konigsberg, a pair of K-class cruisers that were intended for scouting, hence their odd turret arrangements.

Below are Leipzig and Nurnberg (well, two Nurnberg sculpts anyways), which were the successor class, and the most modern of Germany's light cruisers during the war. They kept the bulk of the main battery aft, but did away with the offset on the rear turrets.
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Any of you know any good documentaries on General Patton?
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>>50150108
Give me the hatless version for research reasons and I'll link you the George C. Scott movie.
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>>50150158
george c scott movie really bugged my inner tankfu

>why are there patton and chaffee tanks everywhere
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>>50150158
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>>50150190
fuck i got to rewatch girls und panzer now
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>>50150158
>>50150184
I've seen the movie I want a historical documentary.
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>>50149292
Man rivers are so neglected in wargames. I want a riverine warfare game now. I know FoW 'nam has models for that, is is any good?
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>>50150335
the vietnam supplument for FoW is garbage
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>>50150335
I've not heard anything good about it. Am sure there's something more specifically about it though.

Thing is, rivers are neglected as crossing them gets stuck in the more strategic bit of campaigning that battles tend to miss, like the critical part of actually picking the site of battle. They define boarders on battlefields but for the most part contested crossings are kept out of gaming since they're kinda hard to pull off, and frequently just lead to the game being stuck as a single pinch-point fight, removing all manoeuvre.

Except when you get to moderns and amphibious vehicles, helicopters, and so on anyway.
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>>50150603
Well, FoW is about tankytanking, but Vietnam is not about that.

>>50150335
Force on Force with the 1st ed 'nam book.
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>>50150632
I meant more like the French Dinassauts & US Mobile Riverine Force in Vietnam, and the Portugese in Angola- fighting on and around inland waterways to control lines of communication.

>>50150705
Cool. What scale is Force on Force intended for?
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>>50150845
it's mostly 1/72 but can be played with other scales
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>>50150845
Really a hex & chit game of some sort is probably best. Hard to do much more than a glorified creek on the table even in 6mm. The Mekong can be a mile wide in the rainy season,
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Do we have any resources on Denmark-Norway during the Napoleonic wars? Skimmed the archive but didn't see anything.
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>>50151938
Fair point. Does such a hex & chit game exist?
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>>50152019
Only one very dated title, forty years old! Osprey have been promising an update for at least a decade now. It wasn't already in the folder so you didn't miss it:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mpro5xf00likxs8/Osprey+-+MAA+060+-+Scandinavian+Armies+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars.pdf

I've always been intrigued by the King's Life Guard Rifle Corps of the Danish Army. It's one of the lesser known rifle units, and I think (I'm not sure) its clash with the British 95th Rifles during the 1806 war in Denmark was the only time two rifle units fought each other during the Napoleonic Wars.

>>50147820
I've been hoping you'd pop up some time, anon! We're grateful for the Mega, it's been in our OP a little while now. Also here is a complete folder of Osprey Weapons, you might like to import it into your pile:

https://mega.nz/#F!e8sjzY4B!vgrkMoZgwd2cpN-aoNLT8A
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>>50152778
Nice, Perry have just recently brought out some metals for regulars and Landeværn and I'm thinking about drumming up a small force for Sharp Practice.

They also have a link to a site with a bunch of uniform plates but you have to pay for them and the site is entirely in German also ich muß meine Schultage merken.
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>>50152864
>merken

No wait shit that's the wrong wor- oh whatever.
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Reminder that is your patriotic duty as a member of /hwg/ to vote for Charles XII tomorrow
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>>50153610
>monarchs named Charles

Look, we had two of them, and they were so bad the theoretical 3rd is changing his name if/when he gets the job. 12? That's too many Charlies.
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>>50146915
Yeah heavy tanks tend to underperform in ostfront, a few of them can be handy, but its always good to mix them in with medium tanks and/or field guns to get a good balance. The one exception is the Churchill which is pretty cheap, but always has a really shit gun compared to the Wehrmacht heavy tanks.

Wehrmacht are quite difficult to play - lots of vulnerable side facings - especially panthers. Means you have to be very smart about your placement and usage of each vehicle. Soviet players can just run things forward and hope for the best so kinda leads itself to real life doctrines and tactics.

pic: polish valentines
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>>50153610

I knew I saved this for a reason!
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I think i made some improvements compared to >>50144381

Still wip though
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Look what arrived lads
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>>50155396
>voting for the inferior Charles
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>>50158565
Eugh, looks cannibalist.

This is why the Delphic Oracle doesn't work any more, lads.
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>>50158565
Aren't you British?
What are you doing at home at 10am to get the post?

Cool transfers anyway.
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Couple of British 8th army infantry done for Ostfront. 1/72 combination of revell 8th army and airfix Australians I think. good enough for the table, but dont go expecting 28mm quality.

Currently painting some poilus for WW1 and listening to audiobooks of WW1 memoirs while I try to work out how I'm going to do scenarios for Westfront. I have a recon dynamic where you can get an idea of the enemies defenses and number of MGs before the game starts, but with an amount of uncertainty. I then wanted to have a number of "orders from above" tables, depending on theater, weather, period, enemy defenses and armaments, but that means writing 300 - 500 different orders which might be going a bit far, considering many of them are "make an all-out attack". I have an idea to simplify it, where each turn you draw a playing card which gives a different order for each side - that way there will always be something going on instead of both sides being ordered to hold the line and dig in, as realistic as that might be.
With both sides getting opposite orders it could make for gameplay like Verdun where one side is attacking, the other defending and then they switch.
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>>50159463
Those look better than the Eastern Front troops of your desu, I like these. The Revell ones are reissued Matchbox figures which is nice to see.
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Sorry if i come across like a total noob, but how do i apply varnish?

I have a can of army painters anti-shine (which is matte), but its snowing outside, so i can't spray.

I also have satin, gloss and matte varnish from vallejo in their airbrush bottles (i don't have an airbrush though).

When i tried to applied the satin varnish by brush, it felt very thick (i did shake it) and there were bubbles everywhere. Is that normal?

What exactly is the correct order? I read somewhere that gloss/satin varnish is the stuff that actually protects minis and then the matte varnish is just used to remove the shine.. is that correct?
How long will the varnish take to cure? Same as the spray?

Have a horde of bmps in return
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>>50159563
Never tried brushing on varnish. Typically I do a coat of gloss first (this also helps with decals, wet transfer decals stick better to a glossy surface) followed by two lighter coats of satin or matte. I used to just do a couple thin coats of matte, but it didn't seem to form as hard of a surface, and my metal minis would get scratched or rubbed occasionally.
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>>50158930
http://www.zpub.com/notes/idle.html
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Well, community build project is done. I might add some crewmen later in case I find suitable minis for it.
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>>50158565

Anyone have pictures of those actually used on minis? Do they look "painted on"?
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>>50161120
Looks pretty nice anon. Always been a fan of all of the german armored cars.
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>>50157919
Nice.
What front?
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>>50161849
Thanks.

When i paint russians/germans i usually have light forests and fields of the ukraine in mind. No unit in particular.
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http://henrys-wargaming.co.uk/?p=2492

A pretty cool battle. There's no actual write-up, just photos in rough order.
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>>50161120
What scale is that? 20mm?
Looks great, even though i would have added some camo.
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>>50162384
1:72, yeah.

Followed one of the schemes on the box that did not have any camo - mostly because I don't feel confident enough to do a camouflage with airbrush.
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>>50162419
Just pretend to be the driver of that thing and your commander just ordered you to paint on green and brown stripes.
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>>50162343
What looks like the initial set-up. Both sides marching on from the corners and trying to secure the village, or at least the road to it. Sheep baaing about on the hills. Assholes on horses waving swords and yelling orders.
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>>50162443
>Assholes on horses waving swords and yelling orders.
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>>50162469
>18th/19th century is medieval
No, it's pretty universal. Perhaps fewer horses these days, and there were times when they hadn't got horses you could really ride into battle on so people used chariots, or litters, but people sitting or standing on a high thing and yelling orders whilst waving weaponry is basically humanity.
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>>50162507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSEU5zHgcTc
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>>50162507
>Assholes on horses waving swords and yelling orders=Men doing fights
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>>50162419
I like the un-camo'd look. Like it just rolled right off the production line, and the unit has been fighting too hard to have time to paint anything.
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Is there anyplace I could find 15mm Māori?
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>>50162777
http://www.battleline-miniatures.co.nz/products.asp?ProductCriterion=15mm%20NZ%20Maori%20Wars&SubProductCriterion=New%20Zealand%20European
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About to start collecting miniatures for Ostfront, what's the best scale? I'd like to be able to use them with other games too, eventually.
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>>50163395
10mm
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>>50163395
We usually play at 1/72, but 15mm or even smaller would work fine too. 1/72 is nice because you can just walk into your local toy store and usually there's plenty of WW2 vehicles, infantry and field guns around.

What nations are you looking at? The only problem I've found with 1/72 is Japanese tanks tend to be hard to come by and/or expensive resin models. They might be more widely available at a smaller scale.
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>>50163556
Well, in 1:72 you get the not too expensive Chi-Ha, a crapton of mildly expensive Dragon models, and some hard to come by Fujimi tanks - AND! IBG models started doing some of Tojo's tin cans, and it's not too expensive either. Also, they do Hungarian Toldi tanks.
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>>50163395
Basically you have 3 choices:
15mm (1:100 like Flames of War / Tanks!)
20mm (1:72 is a super wide spread scale with lots of cheap minis and vehicles)
28mm (1:56, a very popular scale with lots of detailed miniatures available, but you'll need a big table since Ostfront armies are kinda big i think)
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Does Osprey and/or a similar publisher have anything on British marines of the 18th century?
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>>50164434
Can't find one in the MEGA on the Royal Marines specifically that's not modern, unfortunately.
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>>50164434
What do you want to know?
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>>50164696
I discovered the Battle of Havana in 1762 and it got me interested in British marines of the period. I'm looking for stuff like uniforms, weapons, gear, unit structuring, history, relation to the Royal Navy, pretty much British Marines 101.
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>>50164687
for 7yw. it's sparse but something http://kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=British_Marines
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I hope all of you in the USA already went and voted for Trump.

If not, GO!
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>>50165414
>anyone in this thread being in the USA

Sorry anon, we're all from Hampshire.
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>>50165414

Alright lads, let's not led the traitorous colonists ruin this thread.

Let's keep things on topic - how Spain with never have Gibraltar, how we should imprison the gay ex-fencer defying the will of the people, and how Prince Harry is batting well above his average...
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>>50165510
Old Hampshire at that
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>>50165558
you forgot the Falklands and how the argies will be enternally buttblasted.
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>>50165615
Gotcha!
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>>50165651
>seen this image countless times
>still open it every time for the chuckle "The French, Why?" gives me
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>>50165651
Replace that flag with a Yorkshire flag and that is almost exactly what I look like right now.
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>>50165660
It's a question that can never be answered.
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>>50152904
'erinnern' is what your looking for
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>>50165705
The one word I needed to use Google translate for is the one that let me down.
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>>50165558
Well two out of three of those I can agree with.
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>>50165690
You should get some nicer curtains and have a shave or commit to growing a beard then.
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>>50165796
Over my dead body
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>>50165510
I'm an Amerifag. If I didn't have a job and responsibilities, I would've hit the liquor store as soon as I left the polls this morning.
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>>50165558
Can't hear you over the sound of those waves not being ruled,
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>>50165414
>implying the vote of single persons in the USA do matter

The winner takes it all, remember. It won't matter if he has 49% or 1% of the votes in a state in which Shillary wins anyway, and the other way around its the same.

Best democracy ever...
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>>50165690
I'm sober and questioning my life choices...
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>>50165558
>how we should imprison the gay ex-fencer defying the will of the people

This about May? Not a Brit here
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>>50166071
10/10
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>>50166158
Judge's said that Parliament had to approve Brexit, and May couldn't invoke the Royal Prerogative.

Britain's been sliding into a fascist dystopia since I got back from foreign parts. Pretty fucking tempted to join the International Brigades in Syria round about now.
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>>50166227
"worked with tony blair"
"The Fencer"
Literally couldn't dig anything else up?
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>>50166247
Mate, it's the Daily Fail. The BBC News has gone to shit since I got back as well, I assume because of political pressure from the Government.
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>>50166278
>>50166227
The EU is not a club you can simply leave if you have enough of it.. you'll see :3
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It is moments like these when I'm not overly excited about having a day job. No chance to sit up and follow the election.
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>>50166363
I have a day job, but every other week I have wednesday off and work saturday.
Might stay up till the small hours of the morning to watch it.
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>>50166336
Don't get me wrong, there's serious problems with the EU (From legal, financial and security point of view... why the fuck is Greece still in it?)

But fuck this Brexit nonsense.
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>>50166363
>>50166388

I have no job and I am desperately trying to avoid it.

I should probably paint figures or learn rules, that'd at least be productive.
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>>50166278
>Mail this mad

Wasn't the vote advisory anyway?
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>>50166444
It was the UNDENIABLE WILL of the BRITISH PEOPLE and if I write ENOUGH words in CAPS then that makes it TRUE.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
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>>50166444
Yes. It was a referendum not a plebiscite.

>>50166430
I would get so much painted if I was a neet, I already think I paint too much compared to how much I play.
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>>50166471
>plebe shite

hehe silly britts
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>>50166504
I should paint his nose more ruddy/rosy, making him drunk
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>>50166521
nah
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>>50166521
You SHOULD make the sheep more bowlegged though, from the copious arsefuckings.
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>>50166412
So literally everything is fucking broken? The EU needs the brits much more than they need the EU. Fuck Juncker and his european state
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Only through Brexit will the Once and Future King be reborn! look to April 23rd 2017 when Britain shall be rid of Saxons! Browners! Europeans! and many more!

I don't actually want Brexit as I'm not a tard. Have some Arthurians/Romans for your trouble. I'm struggling with blending the whiter shields in the transfers however.
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>>50166628
Only if it's near the Welsh border
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>>50166641
Did you make a Weeaboo Romano-Brittish there an the left?
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>>50166668
Sarmatian blood, clearly.

Tbh they look a lot better in person that the photo. I'm not very good at tatking them.
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>>50166683
They look pretty great anon, don't shittalk your own photo!

Still, you should cherrish that great big Rising Sun Glorious Nihhon spearman
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>>50166640
Matey, when I pop to Frankfurt for a meeting without needing a Visa? That's not broken. We've got the sweetest deal in the EU as it is, and we'll be socially and economically shafted if we leave. What proportion of healthcare workers are Spanish or Portugese? How will the housing market do when it stops being an investment bank? How about when Scotland leaves?

Folks under 30 are going to be shafted, because the British people couldn't be trusted to make an informed choice, and allowed themselves to get riled up by Murdoch's rags.
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>>50166640
>>50166412
As a German i think the EU in general is a good idea, in its current form its a nightmare though.

I saw the brexit as a chance to shake the whole thing to its roots and maybe some people in the right spots will wake up and make necessary changes.

But seeing how they try every trick and every cheat to keep Britain (and Greece) in i have no big hopes for the EU left at this point.
They will find some kind of hole in the rules and then GB will have to stay.
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>>50166816
>>50166841
Guys can we stop this please
These threads have gotten fast enough without offtopic discussion clogging them up
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>>50166847
I want to make some sort of VBCW modern parallel joke/game but every time I think about it I get depressed.
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>>50164434

There's no Osprey on the subject specifically but there might be a relevant title in my PDF pile, I'll have a look a little later. Cosmetically they were not much different from regularly Army troops, although of course they had their own distinctive silly hat. Organization wise look in the Napoleonic folder for the stuff on Nelson's navy; while later than you're after it's still the same from earlier in the 18th century.
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River Plate 1939: The Sinking of the Graf Spee (Osprey Campaign 171)

Days before the outbreak of World War II a handful of German commerce raiders put out to sea to prey on Allied merchantmen. Amongst them was the Panzerschiff ('armoured ship') Graf Spee, a formidable warship that boasted the firepower of a battleship but the size, speed and range of a cruiser. When World War II commenced, under the command of Captain Langsdorff the Graf Spee began a hunting spree across the South Atlantic and the Indian Ocean that eventual took her to the River Plate in search of her next victim - an Allied convoy. Instead she found three Royal Navy cruisers under the command of Commodore Harwood, eager to put an end to the 'pocket battleship' that had been terrorizing Allied merchant ships. Featuring full colour artwork, archive photographs and meticulous research, this comprehensive volume explores the thrilling story behind the Battle of the River Plate, an engagement that unquestionably demonstrated the effectiveness of British seapower and diplomacy on an international stage.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/5mr9w4yq0izg732/Osprey+-+CAM+171+-+River+Plate+1939.pdf

This title was announced years ago but only just published now. No-one seems to know why.
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>>50167089
As one of the naval anons, this is much appreciated! Thanks!
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>>50166816
Cool bro, have fun financially supporting Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Italy and all the other states that have joined the EU who are fucking worthless.
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Malaya and Singapore 1941-1942: The Fall of Britain’s Empire in the East (Osprey Campaign 300)

For the British Empire it was a military disaster, but for Imperial Japan the conquest of Malaya was one of the pivotal campaigns of World War II. Giving birth to the myth of the Imperial Japanese Army's invincibility, the victory left both Burma and India open to invasion. Although heavily outnumbered, the Japanese Army fought fiercely to overcome the inept and shambolic defence offered by the British and Commonwealth forces. Detailed analysis of the conflict, combined with a heavy focus on the significance of the aerial campaign, help tell the fascinating story of the Japanese victory, from the initial landings in Thailand and Malaya through to the destruction of the Royal Navy's Force Z and the final fall of Singapore itself.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ycpd3gi1vuwic52/Osprey+-+CAM+300+-+Malaya+and+Singapore+1941-2.pdf

>>50167153

I'm really surprised it's taken so long to pop up online - exactly ten years. There are some "missing titles" in the Osprey collections that bedevil more autistic collectors. Anyway it's a fascinating subject for me too because my grand-uncle Alex was a radioman on board the HMNZS Achilles and had a front-row seat for the whole thing.
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>>50167725
I bet it was a helluva thing to see in person. I've seen pictures of Exeter afterwards. I would have hated to be dueling a pocket battle wagon in any of those cruisers.
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>>50150184
>Try watching it tonight while making dinner
>cannot enjoy movie because of the damn standins
No Panzer II or III and no damn light US tanks to be found anywhere?
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>>50168304
Watch Kelly's Heroes. They at least tried, where so many others just didn't.

Film of that era that tried the most though is Tora! Tora! Tora!. Not tanks, but they had to convert an absolute shitload of planes for the Japanese, whose extant examples were mostly sitting in the Pacific.
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>>50168545
What a coincidence. That was what I had just finished watching right beforehand. Tora Tora Tora I mean.
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>>50168629
More people should see that film.
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>>50168735
It's a good film. I've watched watched it a couple of times, and now it's one of my go to's for putting on while doing housework.
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So lads, there's a bit of Bolt Action action locally, thinking about getting in on it. In 2E do Commandos still far outclass ordinary Tommies thanks to all the automatics?
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>>50169026
Yes, because the army list for Britain is still the same because only Germany got a book update.
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>>50169026
I don't think anything has changed that would alter that.
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>>50169026
I've also been thinking a Z Special force from one of the Borneo ops could be interesting, are there any minis out there?
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>>50169115
>>50169125
Cheers.
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Has any anon here read and or played 'The Kingdom is Ours'? It's an English Civil Wars/ Wars of the Three Kingdoms ruleset that was recently released by Helion Publishing. It looks to have some interesting mechanics to it and there are not too many reviews of it about the place.
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>>50166071
"Saint Sean Bean - His Life & His Deaths"

top kek
>>
MAGA
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>>50169156
Chindits/Ghurkas maybe?
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>>50166992
This review hints that the hat changed in 1799
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=644
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I can tell its late and I should go to bed because I always come up with horrible ideas when I'm tired.

Right now, I'm thinking about some modern US military miniatures so I could set up a Civil War 2 campaign with the west coast trying to leave and Emperor Trump being very unhappy about that.
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How do you guys deal with the urges to get more plastic crack?

I'm jonesing right now and looking at all these cheap 1:72 plastics.
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>>50171268
>How do you guys deal with the urges to get more plastic crack?
By being mentally strong enough not to order more until I finish my current projects.
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>>50171268
By being broke.
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>>50171268
>How do you guys deal with the urges to get more plastic crack?
by looking at my bank account balance
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>>50171268
I deal with it by buying 1/72 plastics. Just ordered 3 boxes of Soviet cavalry. 1 box of 16 cossacks by revell, and 2 boxes of strelets regular cavalry - both of 12. Should be plenty.

You could try dealing with it by scratch building terrain instead? I just built 17 Japanese MG nests using balsa wood and random bits of plastic sandbags from the bits bix. They should look nice once covered in grass flock - just a machinegun barrel poking out of a log-and-earth slit
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>>50171358
Building terrain is probably the most productive way of staving off the plastic madness, as its still contributing to the overall project.
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Does CinC have any english distributors? I am looking for some ww2 vehicles and CinC seems like a fine balance between price/quality.

Any other good mini makers?
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>>50171473
assuming 1/72? plastic soldier company - fast build, usually 3 to a box - they also do 15mm, italieri fast build kits - usually 2 to a box. Pegasus minis are good too - often fast build and 2 to a box.
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>>50171473
>>50171498
Zevzda has some cheap and nice vehicles too.
15mm and 20(1:72) as well. Fast build stuff too.
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>>50171498
>>50171523
Shit, I forgot the 6mm part, sorry lads.
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>>50166444
It's Daily Mail after all
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Would there be any interest in scans of the remaining FoF supplements? Including 2nd ed Ambush Valley.
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>>50169156
Standard Aussies in slouch hats would work fine. Chindits would be good for later war infantry. You could use something like Foundry's Royal Marines in Burma for the guys in berets.

>>50172131
Definitely, they're on our desired scans list after all
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>>50172181
Now I know who sculpted the 1st ed Warzone minis...pic related must have been done by the same guy.

And as soon as the books arrive, I'll either scan them or take photos of it if I'm lazy.
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>>50171268
Either go through my collection of unfinished shit and tell myself I can't justify it, or I allow myself a small hit and get something small. Of course my crack is ship-shaped and mostly inexpensive, so there's that.
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New spaghetti gun from Empress.
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Wargames Emporium in Sheffield carries them.

https://www.wargamesemporium.co.uk/pages/cinc
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>>50172915

Man, I love Paul Hicks so much.
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So I want to get a M8/M20 Greyhound to go with my Bren im ordering for my Bolt Action brits im starting(Recon platoon kind of deal) But are there any good pictures/info about M8s in british usage?
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>>50173835
Brits had their own armored cars.
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>>50173848
They got some Greyhounds too as part of the lend-lease IIRC.
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>>50173848
>>50173861
Well the thing is im restricted to what the FLGs has in stock ect.
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>>50173873
No offense to them, but if they can't order you something, then you're certainly entitled to order it yourself.
>>
sick in bed, any current wargame magazines on the mediafire/megaupload? I can't find any..
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>>50173835
why not a staghound or daimler armored car?
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>>50173902
If you're interested in WW1 I can recommend this audiobook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARD-xXwKI3A

and this book on the eastern front in WW1, not too much around on that topic:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e8969by2wi8127s/1238138104.epub
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>>50173885
>>50173885
FLGS was the wrong word. Webstore is the right word. And its more of I don't want a single order split up since it would take 12 days for em to stock the resin kits ect. And i decided to get a Cromwell instead of a M8 since they cost as much so it matters little atm.
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>>50173959
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/e8969by2wi8127s/1238138104.epub
very kind of you, ww1 is interesting but I'm not really up for hard reading.

I was just looking for some eye candy and light articles from say Wargames Illustrated or something...
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How do I demo Bolt Action? I got a big discount from Warlord to help their game flower in an lgs. I know to avoid packing in a bunch of special snowflake units and modifiers based on the new guy's experience but that's all.
>what is the current meme theater/battle in pop culture?
>stricly alternating activation: a good idea for this?
>things that are badwrongfun in this game I must never use for this
Neither company nor store is particularly clear on what to do.
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>>50174032
Well that film about Okinawa has just come out, might be able to tie stuff into that?
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>>50174032
>>what is the current meme theater/battle in pop culture?

Where are you? Depending on your location you might want to present some "local" armies.
In general the theme of the starter box (Band of Brothers, i.e. Airborne vs Germans/(SS maybe)) is popular everywhere.

>>stricly alternating activation: a good idea for this?

What do you mean by that? Bolt Action is all about random activation. Thats what makes the game so interesting (at least in my opinion)

>>things that are badwrongfun in this game I must never use for this

Most of the "broken"/cheesy thing were nerfed with Version2 of the rules and wouldn't appear in demo games anyway.

I suggest to check the starter box. It comes with some kind of "quick starter" booklet which has some missions included.
The amount of units in it might be to small for proper demo games, but smaller is better for beginners i think.
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Favourite wargaming army that you created? I am pretty proud of my scottish raiders, you all know the old shepperd I geuss will make a picture of the other 10 later but I only have pictures of them with unfinished base or with me holding them in my hand and that kind of thing isn't apreciated here

So lads! What is your favourite army/band/fleet/company you made
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>>50176166
Actual one isn't historical and I've never actually got to use them.

Historical one... probably my Czechoslovakian Tank/Mechanised force.
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>>50176166
Probably take something special to knock this lot off.

The first army I made in years after getting back into wargaming, unashamedly blogged here on hwg throughout creation, the French at Talavera in 10mm.

Not my best painted, and never used for purpose, barely used at all, but still my favourite.
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>>50176193
Show it spoilered anyway
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>>50176166
My African Imagi-nation shit.
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>>50176216
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>>50171473
There's the wargames emporium in Sheffield, but they are out of stock with pretty much everything, they do have GHQ too but its easier to get those from magister militum.
>>
May anyone point me towards some cheesy Tanks! tactics? I'm considering this Memoir without hexes and want to check how breakable this X-Wing clone is.

I hope it will stand, for it may be a fair intro for friends into historical wargaming.
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>>50172915
Empress makes some quality shit, got their Spanish Civil War Militia gun crew, 10/10 volkssturm.
>>
Maybe I've missed it in the OP, but does anybody know if we have Honours of War?
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Has anyone played konflikt 47? Is it any good? Do walkers perform the way you might imagine?
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>>50178535
I guess this isn't really historical, but I'm looking to get some BA stuff and looking for any thoughts
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Bolt action with the lads

Western front showdown one half, eastern shitshow on the other.
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>>50176394
Check out what shit is broken in Star Trek Attack Wing. That's the other X-wing clone and wizkids have done horrible things to the core game, while FFG hasn't produced anything too ridiculous, besides hyper maneuverable ace builds.
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