What's up warhammer fans. What's the coolest Space

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>>50043758
Whichever you think. I'm personally a fan of the "good guy" chapters like the Lamenters or Salamanders, because I respect the endurance it takes to uphold goodness in a setting like 40k.

>>50043758
Clearly the Silver Skulls. Gold is obviously the coolest color in the setting as shown by the Emperor but no chapters have a good color scheme. Therefore the Silver Skulls are the best since Silver is one step below gold.

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>>50043758
I don't give a damn what others think.
Ultramarines are my boys.
>Dat greco-roman theme
>Dat jack of all trades while still being specialized in leadership
>Dat ability to build long lasting empires, governments, planetary institutions
>Dat nobility
>Dat honour

And last but not least:
>Dat colour scheme

WE MARCH FOR MACRAGGE
AND WE SHALL KNOW NO FEAR

>>50044321
Inb4:
hurr durr toiletseat emblem matt ward codex astartes does not approve :D:D:D:D

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>>50043758
The Flesh Is Weak

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>>50043758
Dark angels for they are the embodiment of LOYALTY

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Yall niggas need the emperor

Space wolves uses ice beams and ice claws so the Wolves have the lowest temperature.

>>50044501
I went with Dark Angels almost 20 years ago. No regrets.

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>>50044321

Some Ultramarines are cool dudes

Whoever it is they are not named Lamenters.

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>>50044831
I will still cherish you and die in glory for you, thankless Imperial citizen.

>>50044958
Literally just sacrificing themselves making terrible tactical decisions to help individual humans instead of doing their job and helping humanity as a whole.

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>>50043758
Space Wolves. Fenris has very fierce winters and they have weaponized cryotechnology

>>50044501
Lion was noble and loyal. You'd be crazy to think Dark Angels in 40k are anything but sketchy as fuck

>>50043758
Blood Ravens
Astral Knights
Thousand Sons

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>>50043758

The Hanged are the coolest space marine chapter imo

>>50044515
That pauldron is pure af

>>50044831
>>50044958
>>50045004
The Doom Eagles are like the Lamenters but without the tragic lamenting part. They're all about saving common imperial civilians from suffering and serving them unto death but they aren't protracted as tragic figures who loss half of their chapter every campaign.

>>50045337
Portrayed*

>>50045337
I don't see why Doom Eagles fans feel the need to shit on the Lamenters. They share the same goals, and a similar morbid disposition. The Lamenters are just unlucky. It has nothing to do with tactics, they're just as adept as other space marines, its just they keep getting dicked over by people who don't share their values.

>>50045396
I doubt it's Doom Eagle fans in particular who shit on Lamenters but I think a lot of people dislike them for their bleeding heart attitude. Also the fact that they place civilian life above strategic victory like when they attempted to rescue all those civilians from Orks only for a massive Ork fleet to show up and fuck everything.

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>>50043758
I play mostly play Tau so I like the Emperor's Shadows Chapter best.

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>>50044398
Destroy the Weak!

>>50045226
TAKE THE KNOT!

>>50045449
I love how you can list two traits that are both reasons why people like and hate the Lamenters.

>>50045449
The Lamenters are retarded because civilians aren't worth anything in 40k. Human life actually IS worth less than dirt because there's quadrillions of humans in the Imperium, and that's just from the Hive Worlds alone. Planets are far more valuable than people, and so are Space Marines given the resources it takes to make them. A Space Marine should never sacrifice themselves to save a mortal unless that mortal happens to be somebody really fucking important to the Imperium, like an Inquisitor or Lord Commander of the navy or guard. Otherwise normal humans are completely expendable, acceptable, losses. You could lose a billion civilians to Orks and it wouldn't even be a speedbump for the Imperium or the species. Meanwhile a single Marine takes around two decades to make from a very rare, finite resource.

>>50045511
>trying to rationally maximize in 40k

The entire setting is pmuch against that. Nice dubdubs tho.

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Personal favorite, just for the color scheme

>>50044515
Good choice.

>>50045511
I'm not the fag that likes The Lamentors but I agree with your sentiments and would be interested in subscribing to your newsletter.

The Marines Malevolent know what it will take for the Imperium to triumph.

During their time, the astral claws

>>50045539
Actually, most Chapters do this. It's only the retarded guys that purposefully gimp themselves for 'good deeds' that don't treat human life as the cheap fodder it is. The Iron Hands and Dark Angels are perfectly willing to let civilians be killed if it doesn't factor tactically.

>>50045511
>>50045592
And there encapsulates why I continue to like the humanitarian chapters.

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>>50043758
For those we cherish,We die in glory!

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>>50044321
Did someone mention greco-roman theme?

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>>50044501
Dark Angels were my first ever Space Marine army. They're still my favorite lore and look-wise.

>>50045599
The Red Corsairs are still pretty fucking cool all things considered.

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>>50044398
>>50045480
It feels to me like the Iron Hands are the most overlooked first founding chapter.

>>50045616
Yeah, they do that, and are still insignificant specks in the face of oblivion and the laughter of the thirsting gods. They're just as worthless as other humans, they're just as capable of failure and mortal despite their genetic modifications and training. That's the point. Horus fell, didn't matter how tactically sound he was. The Lion was betrayed by his best man, Ferus killed by his.

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The Hanged/Hung

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>like assaulty marines
>like angels
>like vikings
>don't like vampires or werewolves
>have to pick between vampires or werewolves for assaultty loyalists
>whenever conundrum is brought up receive
>"lel twilight in space"

>>50045617
But those Chapters are retarded and completely compromised by unnecessary emotion just so they can grand-stand about how 'good' they are. meanwhile those civilians they 'save' are just going to die horrible deaths on a later date in the horribly oppressive Imperium. Those civilians the Lamenters saved? As refugees their former status would not be acknowledged on a new world, and they would be relegated to living in the underhive and forced to take labor jobs. I doubt they'd make a decade.

Lamenters pointlessly died so they could buy some civilians just a couple more years of life, denying the Imperium more Space Marines, a crucial resource that can turn aside Ork WAAAAGHs or crush Chaos Warbands.

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>>50044216
Hell yeah

>>50045693
If only some sort of super hybrid between the two were engineered by the forbidden love of two initiates and a healthy dose of slaaneshi tom-foolery.

>>50045671
There's no reason for them to make such tactically sound decisions however unless they're fucking slaved to their emotions. They should be perfectly capable of crunching the numbers in just a couple seconds and coming to the conclusion that civilian life is borderline worthless and only equal to what it can create in an Admech Manufactorum.

>>50045693
Well there's always the Minotaurs but they replace bad vampire/werewolf stereotypes with being massive cunts.

>>50045712
Do you expect logic from 40k?

>>50045712
>But those Chapters are retarded and completely compromised by unnecessary emotion just so they can grand-stand about how 'good' they are

Exactly, bleeding heart chapters are fags

Wolves or salamanders will go out of their way to save civilians but aren't whiny faggots about it that get their whole legion killed for it.

>>50045670
its cool, they dont give a fuck
>Idk it seems like most people just don't like them or the mechanized marine playstyle. everyone wants a good drop pod army (which makes alot of sense)

>>50045693
>Carcharadons
>Minotaurs
>Black Dragons
>Black Templars

>>50045736
welp, you've missed the point so hard I can't even, but that's cool. Enjoy your plastic doods.

>>50045736
>>50045749
This is why I always drop out of chapter threads. One person mentions the Lamenters and then you have 15 social-darwinist "rip n tear" chapters shitting on heroism for the rest of the thread.

>>50045817
>15 social-darwinist "rip n tear" chapters shitting on heroism for the rest of the thread.

>genetic flaw which makes them enjoy being martyrs
>heroism

Lamenters are a bleeding heart chapter full of faggots, quit playing 40k and stay off the internet if your feefees are going to get hurt every time someone tells you your opinions are gay.

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Mine desu

>>50045662
>Undisputed rulers of their own warp storm
>Free to pillage the lands they used to protect and know inside and out
>Second most powerful Chaos Force and weren't even a founding legion
>loyalists defect just for a chance to join them
Hell yeah they are

>>50045817
I don't recall anyone asking your opinion on why you don't like these threads. If you don't like it fuck off like a normal person rather than whining about your 'feelings' like a child.

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>>50045882
And let's be honest with ourselves - Huron Blackheart is a WAY cooler name than Abaddon the Despoiler.

>>50045907
>>50045861
Don't see why you have to be a prick about it.

>>50045628
What are the pros and cons of Dark Angels?

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>>50045959
>>>/faggotville/

>>50045972
On the table, or the fluff? Fluffwise

Pro
>They've got lots of cool areotech shit
>They have an actual plot that moves
>They act like an order of Catholic Knights
>Look pretty fucking cool, lots of cool characters

Con
>It's all written by Gav Fucking Thorpe

>>50045972
Pros
>bitchin color scheme
>sickass hoods and robes over power armor
>very long range shooty army
>ABSOLUTE 100% PURE CHAPTER

Cons
>the Inquisition is obviously jealous of their purity so they keep trying to investigate them

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Grey Knights

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I absolutely love the World Eaters but surprisingly I'm not an edgelord most of the time. Just love chainaxes, red white and blue color scheme, that absolute focus on RIP AND TEAR, and Kharn is also a pretty cool guy. They also have some good armor patterns.

Their post-heresy color scheme is good too though, as is their post-heresy armor pattern.

>>50045972
>Pros
I picked them when I was 8. At that point I was all about the look. I still think their look, that great green and the cloaks, give them the best look out of any chapter.

I think, far more than just about any other chapter (especially first-founding chapters), they have a very well rounded lore. I'm not going to say they're the purest or Lion>>>Everyone (though I believe that's the case), I just think the whole schtick with The Fallen and them trying to both hide their crimes and atone for them is a cool gimmick.

Love the archeotech (Sammael is the coolest named Space Marine character, I don't give a fuck, jetbikes are fucking awesome)

Love the Ravenwing/Deathwing thing

Love The Rock, think it's a really neat idea for a fortress monastery

Best special characters of any chapter (except maybe Gabriel Seth and Asterion Moloc)

>Cons
IDK, I really, really love the Dark Angels

>>50046008
Table wise, Dark Angels used to suck ass until their recent Codex, which has upgraded their status from "shitty space marine army, one of the worst" to "HOLY FUCK OP"

Pro
>Best Space Marine Bikes you can get, have a 3+ re rolling jink save, Black Knights have a fucking 2+ jink
>A flyer that can potentially spawn fucking VORTEX BLASTS
>Absolutely brutal fast attack lists with Ravenwing, you basically get to deploy your army in the center of the board and right on top of objectives with so many units having Scout
>Interrogator Chaplains are cheap HQ's that hit like a truck and unlock relics from Forge World
>Pretty good formations
>Full ballistic skill overwatch, trying to melee Dark Angels is suicide
>DA will BTFO any CSM army
>Some sick psychic powers that can reduce an enemy unit to WS 1 BS 1, others can cripple leadership

Cons
>Azrael sucks ass, overcosted and is a shitty support HQ and must be taken in some formations
>Deathwing fucking suck
>No centurions

>>50046062
I do have to say, WE have hands down the best color scheme

>>50045712
>implying Lamenters died in vain
these civilians will spread stories of their saviors, these yellow angels who gave their lives without hesitation. In time, those peoples will repay the sacrifices the Lamanters made with these very legends and epic tales as they will inspire more than one gardsmen or bolster the faith of many imperial citizens, thus strengthening the imperium

>>50046118
Wut.

The Imperium forcibly conscripts Guardsmen, they don't need to bolster shit.

>>50046117
It's kind of like a reverse Ultramarines.

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>>50046062
Patrician tastes dude, too bad Angron ruined them. I absolutely love the color scheme they had going on.

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>>50045972
Pro
>Most loyal chapter in the history of all chapters anywhere always ever.
>Space Fortress.
>Deathwing.
>All the plasma.
>Scavenger hunts!
>Winner of Scavenger Hunts get to initiate the exterminatus.

Cons
>Sometimes too loyal, others get jealous.
>Loser of the scavenger hunts has to redact all the records.

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>>50046011
this. bring it bitches.

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>>50046142
I think their pre-heresy scheme is the best but honestly the current WEs look good too. Did they ever actually formally change their colors or is the old "dude their old armor is just permanently stained with blood now lmao" thing true?

>>50046062
>>50046142
Does this mean World Eaters are Finnish Space Marines?

>>50046223
they are slavic/russian in the lore

>>50046201
Bit of both I'm sure, depends on each one of them.

>>50046158
>>50046093
>>50046087
>>50046009
>>50046008
Thanks for clearing that anons, y'all just bumped Dark Angels to the top of my list.

The other chapters I was thinking were Raven Guard, Ultramarines, Salamanders and Imperial Fist

>>50046262
Ultramarines are better then Dark Angels.

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>>50043758
Thousand Sons if legion posting is alright. They are SPACE magicians with MAGIC robots. Whats not to like?

Personally I like the blurring of lines between the two sub genres of fantasy and space opera in 40k and Thousand Sons fit that bill for me.

>>50044321
>liking the ultramarines
how could you possibly think they're cool in any way shape or form?
they're just generic marines

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>>50046284
You keep saying that when my MSU Ravenwing moves up 12 inches just deploying, and gets every single objective before turn 3 while you wonder what the fuck just happened to your Centurion Deathstar when a Deredeo opens fire from the other side of the table.

>>50046316
>whoa man you don't like the mary sue teutonic vampire werewolf knights of secrecy and magical heresy with robot limb fetishes and multimeltas sticking out of every orifice?
>you think normal space marines are cool?
>bruh you are so basic

>>50046133
I was thinking about faith and morale, if the death of the lamenters create regiments with Krieg-worthy levels of faith and fearlessness then the imperium gain more than what it lose

>>50046408
Ultramarines in their lore are the MOST Mary Sue Chapter. Every other one has flaws but Ultramarines are worthless for development.

The Exception being Captain Titus.

>>50046476
There WAS a time before Ward, you know.

Titus is a bro, though.

>>50046422
>refugees.
>regiments of highly trained veteran soldiers.
You should be lobotomized.

It would create a strain on the nearby systems.

>>50046476
>Ultramarines in their lore are the MOST Mary Sue Chapter.
Ever heard of the Grey Knights?

>Every other one has flaws but Ultramarines are worthless for development.
You know that Matt Ward doesn't work for GW anymore right?

>The Exception being Captain Titus.
Lay off the 1d4chan memes pal.

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>>50044501
>>50044547
>>50045628
>>50046009
>>50046087
>>50046158
>>50046262
found all the transloyal robe wearing dafaggots
>what a real loyalist chapter looks like

>>50046476
ortan cassius is everything but a mary sue and cato sicarius ain't one either

>>50046476
>he does not outright ignore ward lore

>>50046476
Their flaw is that they border on being traitors. For the right, non-heretical reasons, but traitors nonetheless.

There was and is a time when they want(ed) their own new Imperium in their sector of the galaxy with their homeworld as the throne world.

>>50046365
you don't know your lore if you're arguing this, ultramarines are technically better than every other chapter. they're just not your favourite, nor mine, nor 95% of /tg/'s.

>>50046601
Their other flaw is that they follow the Codex too rigidly and it makes them incredibly easy to outmaneuver if you do any kind of tactic that isn't covered in or counters tactics in the Codex (of which there are many).

Raven Guard are my favorite, ambushes are the best.

>>50046541
>tanith 1st and only
>report for servitor conversion

The entire imperium is a swirling morass of exploitation and strain on nearby systems. They have entire worlds devoted to letting nobles have drug fueled orgies next to hives where thousands starve on a daily basis. Shit's not rational.

>>50046544
>You know that Matt Ward doesn't work for GW anymore right?

You know he is back right?

http://spikeybits.com/2016/08/matt-ward-returns-games-workshop.html

>>50046558
At least we aren't fucking impostors.

>>50046615
No, we have inconclusive statements in a fucking codex saying they're the best, and meanwhile we have the books that show an unbiased, direct showing of how the Ultramarines operate, and unsurprisingly they're clinically retarded. The Uriel Ventris books reveal the Ultramarines to follow the Codex so religiously that they don't even fucking used IED's when they need to.

>>50046637
that hasn't been proven yet mr heretic, stop reading shitty dork angle novels

>>50046666
the ultramarines have been stated to be the greatest adeptus astartes chapter of them all multiple times in lore, it is an inarguable fact, get your lore knowledge straight anon

>>50046541
i was thinking about their descendants, they have a debt toward the imperium, just like the Kriegers or the Vostroyans.

>>50046697
In codices, which are written from the perspective of their Chapter. And you're a retarded newfag if you actually think there's anything like "inarguable facts" in 40k, when 40k doesn't have a canon.

>>50046636
Fffffffffuuuuuuck. At least his unit rules weren't that bad.

Are ultramarines boned when it comes to dealing with Tyranidz, Tau or Necrons or really any threat that wouldn't have had an entry in the Codex Astartes?

God-Emperor tier:
Salamanders
White Scars
Deathwatch
Grey Knights

Very high tier:
Legion of the Damned
Carcharodons
Lamenters
Blood Angels
Crimson Fists

High tier:
Raven Guard
Ultramarines
Imperial Fists
Mantis Warriors
Iron Snakes
Raptors
Exorcists

Mary Sue or Quite Alright tier, depends on writer:
Space Yiffs

Okay tier:
Death Spectres
Black Templars
Celestial Lions
Black Dragons
Doom Eagles
Red Scorpions
Silver Skulls
Novamarines
Howling Griffons

Unintentionally hilarious tier:
Hammers of Dorn
Invaders

Little bitches tier:
Unforgiven chapters

Douchebag tier:
Iron Hands
Dark Angels
Flesh Tearers
Brazen Claws
Blood Ravens
Minotaurs

Heretic tier:
Marines Malevolent
Soul Drinkers
Blood Drinkers

>>50046716
rick priestly the creator of 40k has stated it, matt ward has stated it, i do not know what other proof you want anon

>>50046715
There's an entire series of novels by abnett that is literally refugee veterans. Like 8 books of that shit. You were right. Other anon is just too autistic to realize 40k isn't hyper rational perfect realm.

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>>50045480
Same.

For the Omnissiah!

>>50046748
>Marines Malevolent
>Heretic

Get a load of this pampered civilian lover

>>50046748
This list is utter shit. You aren't even close

>>50046748
0/10

>>50046748
the only thing you got right was putting the dork angle fags in their place

Coolest space marine chapter is when different successor chapters from the same first founding end up interacting. Its like two kids with really messed up parents trying to figure out what happened. I think Deathwatch squads, while being snowflake as fuck, have a lot of potential to show cool parts of any chapter because there's contrast.

>Lamanter and Flesh Tearer in the same deathwatch squad.
>FT resents Lam while secretly admiring his resolve.
>Lam tries to help FT cope with black thirst initially via pity but grows to appreciate his bluntness.
>Become comrades through shared triumph over adversity.
>Eventually Lam's fate come for him, dies saving FT.
>I can't do this without you
>Be strong... my friend...
>FT losses it, goes full rip&tear
>Even the Doom Eagle thinks this is too grim

>>50046916
You couldn't have sounded gayer if you were gargling a catamites hairless balls.

>>50046765
Rick Priestly doesn't matter anymore because he doesn't own the IP or even work at GW anymore, and Matt War was fired, then hired against but now is a freelance writer like ADB or Dan Abnett.

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>>50046916
in this thread, homoerotic 40k marine fan fic plots

>>50046957
>not liking tragic gay space marines
What are you, some kind of faggot?

>>50046979
if we're basing relevancy on who has stayed with the company longer and more faithfully my local gw stores manager who has had the job for twenty years is a better source than the man who created the universe, and another man who contributed greatly to it, notice i said greatly, and not favourably, i hate matt wards fluff as much as the next guy but it is canon

>>50047072
Huh? My point is that neither of those guys matter because not only did they both quit/get sacked, but neither of them own the IP.

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>>50047007
It's fine to like it, let's just not talk about it.
We must all hide our mutual shame and ridicule those who don't.

>>50047198
I was just talking about battle bros and some anons got afraid of their feeeeeeeelings

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USE THE CHALICE BROTHER

Raptors.

Let's get this on the Table right now.

Grey Knights are basically the "White Knighting Edgelord I want to be sooper powerful" love children of the Ultramarines and someone with an obsession about being the "Most bests chapter ever." Fuck you all for liking those cunts.

Exorcist for life.

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>>50046666
Nice quads

I personally like Space wolves, Salamanders, and Doom Eagles.
I wish Space wolves said wolf and shit less but i dont mind most of the rest.

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>>50043758
Astral Knights. Made the ultimate sacrifice.

>>50044148
this im a huge sally fan.

one of my favorite stories is their impromptu raid on commorragh

>>50045624

Iron Snakes?

>>50046748
I agree for the most part as a grey knight

>>50047198
>>50047245
people dislike the dork angles because theyre fucking stupid and are traitors, not because theyre afraid of feelings

>>50047919
people dislike you because you're fucking stupid

>>50047946
mustve taken you all night to come up with that comeback

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>>50047377
grey knights are cooliest and betterest than the rest. Look at my cool sword, it's the swordiest of swords ;)

>>50046748
What's it like having such shit taste?

>>50046310
Lets not forget Ahriman's design is fucking amazing

LotD, on-table or in-fluff. Modern incarnation of "Movie Marines".

For the Emperor, beyond the point of death.

>>50047964
its the same one I always use, it just worked out this time by sheer coincidence

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KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!

>>50045766
>Edgelords
>Massive assholes
>Scaly marines
>Other assholes

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>>50046748
>God-Emperor tier:
>Salamanders
>White Scars
>Deathwatch
>Grey Knights
>
>Very high tier:
>Legion of the Damned
>Carcharodons
>Lamenters
>Blood Angels
>Crimson Fists
>
>High tier:
>Raven Guard
>Ultramarines
>Imperial Fists
>Mantis Warriors
>Iron Snakes
>Raptors
>Exorcists
>
>Mary Sue or Quite Alright tier, depends on writer:
>Space Yiffs
>
>Okay tier:
>Death Spectres
>Black Templars
>Celestial Lions
>Black Dragons
>Doom Eagles
>Red Scorpions
>Silver Skulls
>Novamarines
>Howling Griffons
>
>Unintentionally hilarious tier:
>Hammers of Dorn
>Invaders
>
>Little bitches tier:
>Unforgiven chapters
>
>Douchebag tier:
>Iron Hands
>Dark Angels
>Flesh Tearers
>Brazen Claws
>Blood Ravens
>Minotaurs
>
>Heretic tier:
>Marines Malevolent
>Soul Drinkers
>Blood Drinkers
I approve of this

>>50046558
Oh look, a Fists Exemplar fanboy.

You're not even First Founding and your Primarch was a masaochistic fuccboi who was inferior to Perturabo in every way.

>>50046748
>Salamanders
Why is a Chapter of a bunch of failures who haven't achieved anything of note God Emperor tier

WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THE LEGION OF THE DAMNED FIRST, THEY'RE LITERALLY IMPERIAL DAEMONS OF VENGEANCE!

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>>50048223
>posts on an image board full of shit and hate
>uses only one insult every time
>also likes dork angles
anon i have bad news... youre the fucking stupid one.

>>50048512
people dislike you because you're fucking stupid

>>50048512
people fucking you because you're dislike stupid

>>50048430
read
>>50046674
also
>You're not even First Founding
i can name many second founding chapters that are better space marines than the dork angles are
>Primarch was a masaochistic
dorn used the pain glove to make his men hard as fuck and not lose sense when they get hurt, its just another form of meditation that strengthens a battle brothers focus, introspect, and attention to detail that the seventh uses to keep vigilant
>inferior to Perturabo
the emperor trusted dorn far more than pert and so did every other more level headed primarch, dorn didnt fall to chaos, dorn is autismal but not nearly as much as pert who took everything personally and threw temper tantrums like a toddler when he didnt get his way

>try again dafaggots

>>50048584
>>50048605
dislike people you fucking stupid

>>50046674
As of The Beast Arises, every single Imperial Fist is dead and their successors quietly stepped in to fill the gap, with the Fists Exemplar completely turning yellow.

>>50048641
>with the Fists Exemplar completely turning yellow
Nice headcanon.

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>fight for the most noble purpose
>Unforgiven
>supports their primogenetor

>>50048694
>commits Heresy daily like all the other unforgiven

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>>50048681

>>50048714
>>commits Heresy daily
>Source: my ass

>>50048373
He asked for assaulty marines that weren't Blood Angels or Space Yiffs

>>50045693
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Executioners

ezpz

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>>50045693
Try the Storm Wardens

>>50048722
so the fists created all the successor chapters and all the successor chapters recreated the fists, I don't understand the problem here anon

>>50048887
Well, the originals are dead. The replacements are technically of Dorn's blood and most probably use IF geneseed stocks, but that doesn't mean that the line wasn't broken, because it was. Also, the Fists Examplar probably got totally absorbed since there wasn't many of them left anwyay.

>>50048887
Its just cheap easy fodder like DA are gay or SW are yiffs. The same people that will insult you for it will deny BL is cannon so If youre a IF fan get used to it.

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>>50045226
kek

>>50048923
so what? purity of heart is far more important than blood, cadians are gene tainted from close proximity to the eye of terror and that doesn't make them any less bad ass, same goes to any impure gene seed chapter with good intentions, the fists sacrificed themselves for the imperium headfirst in the fires of war instead of being scoundrel traitorous faggot cowards like the dork angles, having your first founding chapters genetic line shattered doesn't matter, the english royal bloodline has been broken like ten times but that doesn't mean that hag elizabeth ii isn't the queen, it's just a position anon
>>50048956
i know but unlike being a space wolf furry or a dark angel faggot, this isn't a problem or insult

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>Remind Primarch of a bunch of slavers and get sent into deep space
>completely ignore Codex Astartes and every standard practice of post-heresy Marines because they've been outside imperial territory for the good part of 10,000 years

Best Legion offshoot is best and most pure of all the chapters.

>>50049174
It's just facts. I'm not making any judgement about the IF in the present, nor am I saying it's their fault for being chosen to job to orks.

The fact is that a First Founding Chapter got wiped out to a man and their successors covered it up. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>50049371
fair enough

>>50048714
>>commits Heresy daily
Such as..?

>>50049332
>completely ignore Codex Astartes and every standard practice of post-heresy Marines because they've been outside imperial territory for the good part of 10,000 years

Space Sharks are a codex abiding chapter and are a second founding chapter, they returned to the Imperium after the heresy was over, so they were exiled for like 200 years at most.

>>50049605
Depends on the vague source you go by

They are either a 23rd founding chapter

Pre-Corax Raven Guard that got exiled for not fitting Corax's theme (Tyberos is walking around with their sigil)

A bunch of loyalist Night Lords that can't be trusted in the Imperium and are on a penitent Crusade on the outer reaches,

Plus nobody knows if they are codex abiding since only one of their ships has actually been seen doing combat in the populated areas of the imperium.

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What is the 'newest' batch of Chapters in the fluff, and do any of them have any plot relevance or cool tidbits about them?

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>>50045684
You could say that The Hanged are well hung.

>>50043758
The First legion and best chapter bar none the Dark Angels

>>50049712
They are confirmed Terran RG.

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>>50043758
I have always been a staunch believer that Your Dudes are the best. Even if Sturgeon's Law demands that most of them are objectively crap, they resonate with their creator and enrich the hobby by diversifying the tabletop presence.

Also, since they're not tied explicitly into the timeline, the lack of plot armor means that a campaign can actually have consequences for them.

>>50048887
The culture of the Imperial Fists died with them. The new Imperial Fists wear the name but don't have the culture.

>>50050448
Hammers of Dorn alternate color scheme?

>>50044321
Its all cool anon as long as you don't go and be like "I like Ultramarines, therefore they are the greatest". What people fail to realize is the fact that Ultras are hated not for their symbol/chapter tactics of jack of all trades/govermental thing but for the fact they were forced by a guy behind multiple Codexes as "the Greatest of them all, your Dudes are nothing compared to them".

This is where people will start beeing rightfully angry, its like as if you are playing toys with a kid, and other kid keeps inventing bullshit stuff on the fly to stay on top: "Haha, my dude had impenetable cloak! Too bad he has teleporter to make it out just in time!". Seriously, fuck that.

Did they get toned down in terms of "Imperial finest" or they are still full of bullshit fluffwise?

>>50046310
You sir have a good taste.

>>50050520
>they were forced by a guy behind multiple Codexes as "the Greatest of them all, your Dudes are nothing compared to them"
I think I need to show you a copy of literal Codex Ultramarines, because I'm tired of 4e babbies who know nothing of 40k's past outside of the shitty GRIMDARK ALL THE TIME nonsense.

>>50050026
stfu french fag and go back to sucking sandnigger dicks.

>>50046558
Fucking love me some IF. To bad they're constantly the go to chapter to use as the canary in the tunnel when shit hits>>50046637
the fan.

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>>50050500
The Ostrogoths were a homebrew chapter that headlined the webcomic Regular Marine around the time 6th Hit.

It was dumb fun, and a better art reference for "random schmuck marines" than the Emperor's Pointy Sticks.

>>50049371
Abnetts been fucking up ever since legion. I know it explains it was a political move to place every single fucking Fists their was on one planet at once but if that's not the most pants on the head retarded shot ever.

"We must convince the high lords spaces marines are still a necessity" was dumb as shit especially since it's on the coat tails of the first black crusade.

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>>50046310
Blood Ravens if you want the loyal version

>>50050719
My only problem with BR's from being Thousand Sons gene stock is no flesh change.

>>50050740
Malcador fixed that shit, probably. Which raises the question of why didn't they fix it in the first place.

>>50044398
Aye it is brother!

>>50050740
>>50050787
He didn't from what I know.
Some say their mutation got fixed from Magnus's pact with Tzeench.

>>50050787
>>50050740
Magnus solved the gene seed problem when he met his legion. He wasnt the only Primarch to mess with the Geneseed of his legion so its not surprising.

>Malcador fixed that shit, probably.
Explain what you mean anon because Malacdor would be dead by this point.

>>50046634
I seriously think if 40k from Dan Abnetts inquisitor books and his gaunts ghosts books. As well as Sandy Mitchell's ciaphas cain novels. The grim dark shit is good, but gets old and repetitive. These authors.manage to give fleshed out characters feeling and meaning.

That's why I think the lamenters are cool. They're not just "muh grimdark, muh edge"

Salamanders are my favorite because its nice to have some space marines with a heroic streak in them. Doom Eagles pretty cool too. Would probably play them if I hadn't painted most of my guys as Salamanders already.

>>50050854
In the HH book The Path of Heaven, the White Scars reach Terra, guided by a lone loyalist Thousand Son called Revuel Arvida (hint hint wink wink). Do note that he was from their precognition cult, the Corvidae (hint hint wink wink)

At that point he was suffering from a serious case of 'my flesh is merging with my armor', but Malcador's people picked him up, presumably to join the Knights Errant. They also mentioned that they could fix him.

>>50046748
t i'm 14 years old

The blood Ravens

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>>50046011
They are pretty dope desu

>>50051236
>They also mentioned that they could fix him.

Magnus couldn't fix the fleshchange. Malcador sure can't.

>>50050695
>The Ostrogoths were a homebrew chapter that headlined the webcomic Regular Marine around the time 6th Hit.

I could be wrong, but I think there might have been a mention of the Ostrogoths somewhere in this codex:

http://prometheism.net/library/jewishsupremacism.pdf

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Big Guns Never Tire!
I'd like to see a badab war campaign where the battles change depending on who won the previous ones, like a flowchart.

I like black templar. maybe Very basic but I love melee focused armies and the thought of having one of my dudes challenge their dudes and beating the fucking shit out of them. is that wrong?

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>>50046201
They're mad cool as fuck

>>50044148
They're not thr coolest. They're the hottest.

>>50051822
You're making me want to play some Black Crusade right now, mang.

>>50050487
So?

>>50050618
meanwhile you cannot even spell babies properly

>>50051853
The picture always does that to me as well honestly

>>50050651
it just makes them more awesome anon, were the heroes the imperium needs

>>50050706
as fists fan i actually liked the first book, sure all the fists died but oh well shit happens and it isn't like last stands aren't our thing, the ending was badass too

>>50043758
Literally the thousand sons.

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>>50044216
>>50045724
My battle brothers

>>50052255
Aren't they just Iron Warriors?

Hello /tg/ anons. I came here to ask about 40k and I guess this is the place. I used to play when I was a kid (14-16) maybe. I'm 22 now and in college (just got out of military). Thinking of getting back into WH 40k. There a lot of people still playing? I remember there wasn't a good place to play with lots of players near where I lived and the few people that did play there were kind of dicks and played the game in pretty cheesy ways. (hq, two minimum squads, and 1 landraider) kind of play.

Is collecting or playing the main part of the game? Do you anons that play the actual table top game play a lot?

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>>50046011
>>50046166
>>50051269

>>50053235
Best to check around your local game stores, see what's active there. Their facebook and stuff should usually be advertising events and stuff.

>>50053049
I think that's why a lot of people like them

>>50053301
I'll have to check it out. Are space marines still somehow the superior army to run I remember it felt like they had an enormous advantage regardless of slightly less numbers. I was thinking of running Tau or nids.

>>50053435
Mehreens are the most supported, but you can do 'decent' with most of the factions. But let's be honest, there's no way to make every marine iteration bad, so they will always be a safe choice in one form or another.

>>50053449
Yeah I about figured. I remember I played my nids against Space Wolves in one match and he wiped out half my gaunts in his first move without moving. So dumb ass psychic abilities and his tank of course. I feel like balanced armies arn't the way to go when it comes to playing against muhreens you have to bring a few big guns to do actual damage.

>>50053449
>>50053301
You guys normally play the match untill one side has wiped out the other or do you follow missions or play 5-6 turns and add up points cost?

>>50045470
Of course you do, you fucking weeb

>>50045470
>subtly incorporated those elements

For real though, those look sick as fuck and it's actually a refreshing take on Space Marines.

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I have always been a sucker for the Crimson Fists - have always liked stories about lost causes, or brave defenders fighting to the last man.

>>50045470
>Subtle
Yeah, ok.

I do like that oni-helmeted guy in all red though

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>>50046476
>Ultramarines in their lore are the MOST Mary Sue Chapter
1d4chan memes the post

you dont know what a mary sue is and have probably never read a single ultramarine book

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Reading this thread, I really want to make my own chapter but I'm entirely devoid of ideas for a theme.
>Maybe a name generator would help
>First Result: Imperial Gorillas
So, black with silver backpacks?
I already know who their figure of legend is going to be

Traitor Angels are bottom tier and their novels are garbage.

Every Traitor Angel book is the same stupid bullshit. Oh we found one evidence of one the traitors, lets disregard all our duties and chase him! Oh its so sad that we must shirk our duty to the Imperium to hunt down our past! Look at all the effort the chapter puts into to pretending that we're actually loyal! And then at the end of the book that one faggot mary sue traitor drops in and either helps outright or just kinda shows up and leaves a not-at-all subtle hint that he's secretly a good guy and then runs away.

>>50054781
>le the expression mary sue must stick to its original meaning maymay
cute

>>50045511
The problem with that idea is this: chaos. If you alienate your people, your people will rebel and in this case maybe turn to a god that apparently gives a shit about you. Before you talk about how little human life is worth, might I remind you that a cultist of chaos has a chance to become something far more powerful than a space marine, and cause much havoc, both as this creature and whilst allied with other cultists. So while it's a good thing that not all chapters are like the lamenters it is good that they exist, and even better that only a handful of chapters are as dumb and short-sighted as the marines malevolent

>>50045997
I see you know that place well, scion of worst god

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>>50053864
>have always liked stories about lost causes, or brave defenders fighting to the last man.
you get that trait from daddy, good work son

>>50055271
>a term doesn't mean what it means
heres a free (you)

>>50050520
You do know ward didn't write most of that, right?
It's just copy pasted stuff from 2nd editions Codex: Ultramarines, no shit it's going to depict ultras as the best.

>>50043758
If I played loyalist muhreens I would probably choose Imperial Fists.

>>50058169
But Salamanders are the coolest

>>50058190
Vulkan pls.

>>50045882
Now I want to do a Red Corsairs army, damn you anon.

>>50043758
>>50044148
>>50044216
>>50044347

The coolest Space Marines chapter is the P.O.A., which fights against Nurgle (J. Stalin), the Chaos God of Decay, see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c82GPttg2A0

>>50045670
>It feels to me like the Iron Hands are the most overlooked first founding chapter.
Along with pretty much all the rest of them, you mean?

>>50045882
I like to think that they still retain a modicum of actual organisation and heirarchy as well.

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>>50045684
kek

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>>50050520
>Did they get toned down in terms of "Imperial finest"
From the most recent codex. They will always be the Imperium's finest, so it has been since 2e, so it shall always be.

>>50062965
>ultramarines epitomise adherence to the codex astartes

I'll take red scorpions for 500 Alex

a recent addition, but the shred lords from the other thread seem like they could be pretty cool n "certain situations".

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>>50044321
Nice b8 traitor.

>>50045236
NONE

PURER

>>50053864
This

Also Crimson Fists gave one of my favorite 40k quotes "Turn from those that need you, and you lose everything that defines you."

>>50044321

They're so cool that an actual color was named after them.