Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1149: Fantastical Thunderbolt Edition

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Do you still enjoy seeing new worlds?

If you don't, how long did it take to stop feeling joy?

second

is there a jump where you can pick up blood magic? Something similar to what Vlad has in LoL

>>49991088
There's always something to enjoy, a new vista, different customs, subtle variations on familiar favors and themes.

I love seeing new things, and my companions provide me with a sense of home. It's the best of both worlds.

>>49991168
Darkstalkers
Bloodborne

>>49991168
I didn't see it in the LoL jump, although I imagine you could flow a couple of things to mimic it. But maybe a combination of bloodbending,Blood magic from darkstalker,Vampiric Power from Elona Jump,combined by power combinations from young justice.

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Disgaea perks are basically complete. I'll post the finished list from the WIP later on.

What are you up to, Jumpers?

>>49991168
Libriomancer, Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines, Overlord has some

>>49991246
>>49991282
cool, I look into those

>>49991271
and yeah, looked into LoL before I asked :P Figured if nothing else I could pick up something like Energy(blood) and Kinesis(blood) from Marvel, but that just isn't magic.

>>49991309
shit, meant to thank >>49991269 not >>49991246

you cool too anon, but not as cool

>>49991309
have you considered JoJo vampire? They have substantial powers. Although I don't know if that extends much further than themselves

>>49991278
6'3"

>>49991331
I'm not actually going for Vampire so much as the powerset, but I figure if I have to go vampire I can swing by Tsukihime for the one perk

>>49991357
You should seriously consider getting that perk even if you don't go vampire, it's not like you might not wind up as something else that has a weakness.

>>49991278
Aniexty-induced procrastination that's keeping me from studying for a test I have coming up soon.

>>49991278
Murder. And sometimes Absolute Justice.

>>49991278
Stealing everything I reasonably expect to find in the video games Of my childhood in captain N,I just rustled some multi use labor elements.

>>49991278
Building a small bazaar in a small pocket dimension that I carry with me. Just because I really like the 'hidden magical night market' thing and decided to make one of my own to take along with me.

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>>49991088
after arriving in so many worlds burning from the fuckups of those before or being awoken by the sweet siren's song of war and struggle, one starts to feel...strange...when your a dream closer to new and more bloody saga in the chains of fate.

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Continuing on from the previous thread

>>49979503
So Heavens I read your description of him and I thought, "Just destroying the world, that's not that evil" So I decided to do a quick wiki search about them and OH MY GOD YOU ARE NOT KIDDING.

Were to start in this guys long history as a complete monster. Well his motivation for being evil as far as I can see is "screw you I have power." He murders his entire village without any regrets and he also cause all of his party members to become completely insane. Special mention goes to good old Thorndyke. Not only does the Devourlord/Gig use magic to convince him that he killed his own son. But by the end of the game he has pretty much gone insane and thinks that each person he had killed brings him closer to his son. This along with him enslaving some people to fight for him, him murdering the grandchild of one character brutally in front of the grandmother before moving on to kill the grandmother right after.
This guy would not look out of place in Warhammer 40k. Hell this guy stands head to head with some dark Eldar leader for how fucked up and evil he is.

>>49991088
A new world is a new project, and a new way for me to feel good about myself by fixing it up.

so, Tsukihime's "Life Thief" perk. when it says "You have the ability to steal or gift life energy with a particular part of your body." is that innuendo or jumper's choice?

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>>49991278
Seeking the peace of reason, tryin to find reasons to keep believing and all that.

Really I'm planning on more of a calculated chain cause for some reason rolls arent motivating me as much. College continues to kick everyone in the ass until the fall break so there's that

Tossing stuff in my head for Granblue but not much on paper or pdf, Legfes is in a few days so i'll probably screaming bloody murder about that while this new scenario event gets started up. Maybe I'll get inspired by who I roll but that's probably not happening

>>49991589
And to think, they're a perfectly heroic and loving individual in the game's main story. I always considered Demon!Revya the epitome of why derailing the plot or going full murderhobo is a grueling, awful thing to actually witness. I think folks who actually enjoyed siding with Gig and going full ham on evil eventually reached a point they were uncomfortable.

>>49991607
most likely jumpers choice given the author of the setting.

>>49991608
SOIYA!

>>49991645
I was probably just going to go with jumpers choice anyway, but I figured I would ask, considering everything that happens in the Fate side of that universe

>>49991590
But Bancho how can you know? You won't be able to fix all your horrific mistakes until post spark, since they were your fault in the first place. I mean you could fix things so that they're better than they were before you broke them but cleaning up the shattered worlds you've destroyed can't be anything other than depressing.

>>49991608
SOIYA!

>>49991278
>What are you up to, Jumpers?
Kweh

>>49991631
I actually lost the last fight on purpose. I didn't want Devourlord Revya to win at that point. Oh, but of course, Danette just had to hit me with that one last scene, where she stays with Revya in the Onyx Sword to try and help him/her, even singing a lullaby to them from their childhood. Fuck.

>>49991711
i generally make a point of not shattering worlds that Don't deserve it. Economies yes, cultures yes, but not worlds. I am a bringer of change, positive change! the caterpillar has to get slurry'd to become a butterfly.

>>49991088
In a new world, everything old is new again. Plus there's all sorts of identity-making and resource-gathering what needs doing soonish after the start of a Jump. Besides, I've made a game of noticing the little details that show up in different universes, especially those that are close to home. Restaurants being different, a musician that makes it big when they were just a one-hit-wonder back home... little things.

As a follow-up question, have any of you looked yourself up in the earth-normal Jumps? The ones with a world pretty much like home. Have you ever found yourself, in a more literal fashion than most?

>>49991246
Don't listen to >>49991322, you're super-cool, Anon, and I agree with you seven-eighths-heartedly.

>>49991278
Looking for a fun SPACE Jump I haven't done yet for bonding time with my godchild.

>>49991519
That sounds awesome.

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>>49991817
EVEN WHEN YOU WIN YOU STILL LOSE

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>>49991631
That's the thing with games like these. Games that give moral choices like these usually have it so that you have absolutely no reason at all to be evil and have a much more satisfying story playing good, like Infamous or Undertale.

But the option to be evil still exists and people will chose it just because they have the option to.

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>>49991919

>>49991919
To be honest that's probably one of the reasons so many people liked the Mask of the Betrayer Expansion to NWN2.
It gave you a reason to be Evil, and the Evil pathline was fucking crazy, but awesome.

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>>49991817
Did you like the ending you got anon?

>>49991919
>Please don't repost
>Posts it on 4chan

>People choose to be evil just because they have the option to

The Skull Man Jumpchain
there doesn't seem to be a location table or age roles, was this an oversight or intentional?
The Works of Shotaro Ishinomori +0 necessary, anyone who doesn't take this is an idiot.
pain-and-suffering +0 I am Lord of dreams and I still have nightmares
Dedication to Revenge +100cp nightmares that moved me to do terrible things
A Recurring Suspect +200cp in fairness, they are quite often close and I am usually near the crime scene
Skull Man-400 the abilities I want are locked behind this
Power of Newmanity free for skull man. I am already well past peak human
Ace Rider , free for skull man . Technically I am a motorcycle
hypnotism -100 discounted for skull man taken from stipend always a good trick
induce hallucinations -100 discounted for skull man taken from stipend fun to be had with this
consciousness shift -300 discount for skull man you mean I can make other people more like me?!
Skull Rebirth-300 discount for skull man definitely necessary, considering the kind of conflicts will be getting into post spark
skull suit: let's go with something like robbie reyes, only with a hole for my "hair" and metal bone shaped plates on the torso and limbs free for skull man
skull armor -300 discount for skull man and now all those abilities are boosted, autograft do your thing
the plan:The Syndicate doesn't know what they were messing with, find Tatsuo and exterminate with extreme prejudice, you do not give the Lord of dreams nightmares and expect a pleasant death!

>>49991995
No. It might have been the best ending in that situation, but that's not saying much, and the only one I had to blame for it getting that bad in the first place was myself.

>>49991919
That art is nonsense. "Choose carefully"? There are no consequences to your choice in Undertale, if you go pacifist. It's transparently obvious that the pacifist path is the right one, in Undertale. There's no moral debate to that game. When people think of Undertale as being about good and evil, pacifism and violence, they're missing the point. Undertale is a game about subverting preconceptions about RPGs, not a game about pacifism. It has nothing meaningful to say about the choice to do harm to people, that's just a tool it uses to say meaningful things about other concepts.

>>49992001
That is true.

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>>49992050
Look on the better side Anon, if you played the Demon Route you probably played the good routes first.
So somewhere in the multiverse you helped Revya and his world get a, relatively, happy ending.

>>49991919
To be fair the evil ending in Infamous is the one that lets you live.

>>49992090
I thought undertale was meant to be a tool through which we showed that all videogames are garbage?

>>49989228
CP doesn't appear at all. In fact, my jumper doesn't even make perk choices. That's what I'm doing, so when jumper/me goes on the chain, it's completely planned out and there's no need for interface.
>>49991088
Hell yeah. New world, new start, new opportunities. at worst, more biomass.
>>49991278
Midterms, tinkering, and dollar BLT sandwiches.

>>49992223
What do you think "subverting preconceptions" means?

>>49992172
Want to know something? I got the Danette ending. So both the Good and Evil endings ended with Revya and Danette together.

>>49992223
no it's a tool to show that There are alternatives to violent conflict in turn-based adventure RPGs

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>>49991088
Of course. There is always another horizon to measure. There is always another set of metaphysics to analyse and compare with the others.

Admittedly, a lot of the mystique has tarnished over the years. But the multiverse is still a beautiful place, for the most part. It's the difference between hearing stories about the sea and actually having to survive a hurricane.

>>49991278
Wondering what the hell I was thinking last jump, and just trying to keep my head together. Well, that and trying to convince the Angela to look less like a space penis and more like a flesh flower.

>>49991589
Wait.

Wait, this...thing, is in Disgaea?

I thought it was supposed to be a happy place.

I'm a little confused about the Rust jump. Are you supposed to be playing a videogame or what? The jump makes it sound both like you're spending the jump playing a game and that you're actually on an island.

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Fred has boobytrapped your warehouse using everything inside as a tool with perfect precision and application

What goes wrong?

>>49992223
No Anon that's Ride To Hell: Retribution.

>>49992172
>>49991919
>>49991817
It feels weird, but the Demon Path also brings out the best in a lot of characters. I still think the most inspiring part of it is when all the surviving cast, including villains and comic relief characters, unite as a whole to stop YOU.

But, yeah. If anyone asks why murderhobo or maximum edge Jumpers don't appeal to me and why I don't like writing things like that, look no further than the Demon Path.

>>49992278
It normally doesn't. The drawback is what brings them in. It's literally the most horrifying cameo possible short of inviting Baal, Zetta, Valvarotez, and Krichevskoy over for a battle royale. At least three out of those four won't be malicious about it, either.

>>49992278
Soul Nomad, actually.

>>49992291
The second before the trap ensnares me. I use relativistic speed and required secondary powers to swap places with him.

>>49992278
>>49991817
>>49991631

I heard the demon path in That game was bad and to avoid spoiling myself I only now read lil snippets from these spoilered replies. The dark Eldar part made me go "wait hold on is the path THAT evil?"

>>49992285
yes to both kind of, the island is in a video game. And you are in fact on it.

>>49992331
It's not really. People exaggerate a lot. It seems more evil since you spend dozens of hours getting to know the characters on the first play through but most Dark Eldar are far worse then the demon path.

>>49992366
I don't think most Dark Eldar want the universe to be destroyed.

>>49992366
>>49992331
It is a tiny bit of an exaggeration. You've already played several hours of the main story and had plenty of time to get to know the cast, so there's a degree of attachment when you pick the path that forcefully pulls it by the roots.

As for who's most evil or least evil, my answer can be summarized as 'they're both some variation of asshole'.

>>49991088
Seeing genuinely new worlds is always a thrill, but I have grown to utterly despise Earth due entirely to how many different universes there are that are just slightly different variations of it.

>>49992380
Don't think that is what most people are talking about when they say the Demon Path is Evil anon. Plenty of other 40k villains that just want to kill everything though if that's how you measure evil.

>>49992366
>>49992406
Revya destroys everything because it amused him/her. He/she also slaughters countless innocents for the sake of fun, saves an angel's life just so she can witness her best friend's horrific death at his/her hands, drives several people insane to the point where former heroes are happy to torture and kill, and unites everyone else against him/her. He/she's Dark Eldar level evil

>>49992439
Which isn't really all that notable the way some people seem to paint the path as being the ultimate evil.

>>49992278
The game that were talking about is actually another game, created by the same studio, called Soul Nomad and the World Eaters. This game gives you the option to go full on murderhobo.

The reason that we were discussing this is that Heavens included the option to fight the bad end protagonist as one of the drawbacks. Which I really like. It would have been so easy for Heavens to have put "Level 4000 Baal is after you" as the capstone drawback like most standard jump makers would have done. Instead Heaven's used the bad end of another closely related game of the time to give actual emotional reason to take this drawback and fight him rather than just the MOAR POWAH in CP it provides.

It is a drawbacks like that that make me really like Heaven's jumps. that, and the harem perks.

>>49992494
Really? I hate it for very similar reasons. He uses a game that's not connected by more then a cameo character or two and being the same company making it and takes content from it to put in a Disgaea 1 jump, making any future Soul Nomad jump look like it's copycatting when it inevitably has a demon path drawback. It's lazy and sneaky, just taking directly from a tangentially connected game rather then making a creative and relevant drawback for Disgaea 1.

so tell me jump thread...
what is the most depressing setting?
is it constantly battered by war?
in total regulated control by a select single?
maybe something more depraved?

where does hope go to die chains?

>>49992494
Don't really agree with anon calling it sneaky but I don't think Heavens should be so highly praised for something like this, especially when you kinda seem to put down 'standard jump makers' for sticking to their settings. Kinda rude man.

Been thinking about custom robo.

Someone criticised the way I have origins set up, stacked. Been thinking about making them as sets of two, rather than three.

tournament/police
robo/rahu
scientist/criminal
hobbyist/supporter

But then I thought 'what the hell does drop in get as a origin upgrade'?

...any ideas?

>>49992553
Welcome to jump-maker popularity contests, anon.

It doesn't matter what's "canon" in the jump so long as the thread considers it funny, or benefits from it.

>>49992576
>Someone criticised the way I have origins set up
Did they? When? Honestly, it seems fine as-is.

>>49992494
I appreciate the praise, but don't forget I've had my share of lazy drawbacks. Heaven's Lost and some of my capstones come to mind. I don't really consider myself much of a jumpmaker, honestly. I just do what entertains me and other folks. The way I handle things is FAR from universal.
>>49992521
Considering I'm fairly certain a both competent and AMAZING jumpmaker has called it, I'm honestly not worried. And if there's an issue, I can think of something else.

The reason it's not Baal is because he's getting his own scenario - specifically for Jumpers who decided to start the jump directly in his room like a speedrunner on meth. And the reason it's not some of the other Overlord is because amalur is making future Disgaea jumps and exhausing their cameos would be a bad idea.

Priere, meanwhile, will be the final boss of the 'rule your own Netherworld' scenario. And will be a companion option if you win.

Point is, it's impossible to avoid NIS games intersecting in some way, so I basically had to draw a big bad name that wouldn't necessarily contradict future jumps. And post-Demon Path Revya, along with their universe, is VERY dead if they win.

>>49992475
It is more of a setting morality thing.

In Warhammer 40k people do not even blink about the horrible things that happen there because it is the standard Grim Darkness and actions like the Dark Eldar's barely register as anything compared to the evils of everything else. The Dark Eldar are still the most evil things in the setting. They just do not have enough presence to matter much to the whole galaxy.

But in Soul Nomad's setting someone engaging in evil like that would immediately catch the audiences eyes as one of the most evil guys of the setting.

We expect bad things to happen in grimdark settings like Warhammer 40k but we do not expect them in the much more cheerful NIS games.

>>49992593
Something about forcing a one-true-build-esqe situation with the stacking discounts, making it hard to diversify.

>>49992601
>Own netherworld
Yes, because Disgaea doesn't trivialise the chain enough. Let's also give people an entire world to make their warehouses obsolete too.

>>49992601
>Amalur
>AMAZING
>Competent
Hahahahaha.

Have you seen Kingdoms of Amalur? It's pretty bad stuff.

>>49992029
I never felt like age rolls really mattered that much. and location is "japan". The Skull Man's journey of vengeance takes him all across japan. Where you start doesn't really matter.

>>49992651
I was talking about Soul Nomad, anon. Which I believe DeSu anon called.

>>49992631
JumpChain was trivialized when we got Tenchi Muyo, and it was about fucking time.

Pipe down and keep your self-nerfing to yourself, baby.

>>49992679
Oh yes, forgot Heavens was the new champion of the shitposters cause.

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>>49992521
This problem is always going to come up for any jump which is tangentially related to another setting though. The inclusion of things therein isn't necessarily a problem, if it adds enough actual content to the premise - I believe this is especially true if the settings are tied together with canonical evidence.

I'll toss up a scratchpad of mine, which is technically a more severe offender. The scenario of this thing references over 30 - 40 other animes. The only link there really is: is that what's being referenced is a SRPG, the Robots are all thematically tied to creatures within the setting itself, and the characters which show up, do so in the game itself. But by merit of the characters alone, technically I've already intruded into Disgaea's territory.

This is the same problem (as far as I can tell) that you find this drawback has with Soul Nomad.

(Thankfully in my case, it's a scratchpad and not an actual jump)

If we stuck strictly to the notion that the jump should only have the "core" of its individual setting, that would generally require unanimous agreement on how a jump is made, which we don't have. On the other hand, if the addition of the content means there's more added to the jump, then shouldn't that be alright?

>>49992631
Minecraft, Terraria and Rick and Morty. That's three settings off the top of my head that give you an entire world.

>>49992679
Way to sabotage your own side, buddy.

>>49992704
Rick and Morty gives you trivial access to entire universes, carried around in your pocket.

>>49992684
>the shitposters cause.

And you're shitposting just the same with this irrelevancy.

The Warehouse is outdated, and as a result people are going to find ways around it.

>>49992700
I'm not sure why you think "This makes a bunch of references to various anime" is anything like "This takes a major foe from another very, very loosely related setting". Makai Kingdom is also much more connected with the rest of Disgaea then Soul nomad is too.

>>49992679
So... what? None of this matters anymore? We can all stop posting builds and writefags because nothing will provide a challenge, it's all trivialized and it's just attempts to get others to jerk us off?

>>49992553
Sorry, I do not mean to offend other jump makers. I think that all of them are wonderful for contributing their jumps to this thread despite all of the shitposting and flames that happens. Anyone that could put up with that and still make jumps is good in my book.

>>49992679
Why did you respond? It's always the same salty shitposter bitching about the same shit.

>>49992576
>>49992618
A one true build situation is if one background overwhelms every other one, where it isn't "hard" to diversify, but there's no appealing to diversification. If that is the case that you find, then just tossing stuff around doesn't exactly change that (if the appeal still lies in one concentrated area).

That being said, you're the author. Are you just going to listen to every whim without considering for yourself whether it's true or not?

>>49992658
>and location is "japan"
Are you serious? I had a good laugh from this, thanks.

>>49992631
>trivialize the chain
I suggest you look at the Lost Odyssey jump on the drive, there's an item on there that has a pretty good exploit as far as trivializing chains go.

>>49992764
>because nothing will provide a challenge, it's all trivialized and it's just attempts to get others to jerk us off?

See, now you're up to speed.

What, did you think JumpChain actually had meaning besides that?

>>49992768
Bullshit, we have some really fucking shitty jumpmakers. Like the idiots who keep thinking we're supposed to play low-power and nerf settings at every opportunity instead of actually making them canon. Hint hint.

>>49992784
>Lost Odyssey
Oh yeah, the one people had lots of problems with that the maker just ignored with a response of "I don't agree and fuck you if you want justification". That's great support.

>>49992763
Son you didn't look carefully at the scenario. The other characters show up. The references to other anime is just extra things on top. I already did that with Knights of Sidonia anyways.

>>49992803
...why would you put a scenario that's just crossovers with other anime?

>>49992787
Then I guess all the jumpmakers can stop making jumps, there's no point since we can all do everything anyway. There's no challenge, there's no interest, there's no reason to continue the chain. Everyone can just do an endjump and finish up, letting us all do something productive, right?

Surely endjumps would be needed to end a useless journey, right?

Someone mentioned this last thread, and I thought i'd throw in my two bits.

If you want to make a new pokemon jump for Sun/Moon, then you should also include ORAS and XY, as i'm fairly certain that all the cool new toys those games gave us are supposed to take place in an alternate dimension.

Something something, apocalypse 3000 years ago created the mega stones. And in another timeline, that didn't happen, and we get the pokemon games prior up until unova.

>>49992818
>Surely endjumps would be needed to end a useless journey, right?

Luckily there's always DBZ.

Let's see the builds rolling, people. We're closing shop.

>>49992812
>...why would you put a scenario that's just crossovers with other anime?
You also didn't look at it carefully. The plot line skeleton follows the exact same one as Makai Kingdom, using a variance based on the characters that show up in the game otherwise. There aren't any "external anime" crossovers by the way since it's Prinnies.

>>49992802
Look, it made it to the drive apparently, so I took a look at it and noticed there was something I could use for ridiculous purposes.

What the fuck is happening right now. Is the shitposter just spamming posts and responding to himself, or did we have a spontaneous influx of assmad and retardation?

People have said before that he becomes active at about 3pm EST on weekends, but what about weekdays?

>>49992887
>or did we have a spontaneous influx of assmad and retardation?

You answered your own question.

Just kick back and watch the sparks, anon. Nothing else you can do because there's no moderation, only extremism.

>>49992818
What are you defining as interesting? I go to settings that don't pose any form of challenge to me because I like them, just because you're the strongest person in a world doesn't mean that there's nothing to do. I get kind of annoyed when people claim the only value in jumpchain is fighting things so if that isn't your intention then I apologise.

>>49992887
This place has always been retarded because nobody wants to agree on anything. You've got people screaming about power levels, screaming about porn, screaming about how jumpmakers should kiss ass or anything that trips tumblr moods.

Allowing more than one jumpmaker was a mistake.

>>49992878
Obviously there's something you can use for bullshit purposes. It's SJ-chan and she just put it on the drive despite ignoring many posts and still continuing discussions about the jump. As she always does. Just left in the middle of an argument and apparently put it on the drive.

>>49992887
We made enough noise about his schedule that he's stopped studying and is now shitposting full time. He's tanking his studies to do this, hilariously.

Just ignore him and the posts replying to him. Post what you like otherwise.

>>49992911
I'm pretty new here so I have no clue what jumpmakers have what reputations nowadays. I mean aside from the breaker combination it's not like the jump is too bad. The presentation style is there, there's a structure and the essentials that can be used for jumping.

>>49992532
Real life.

>>49992936
What combination?

>>49992907
That's not my intention but it seems to be the intention of others using retarded interjump balance. "Oh Tenchi allows us ultimate power so why the fuck aren't you allowing it here?" or "Allowing us to gain a world is too expensive, because this place allows us to carry entire universes therefore you're a fag". It's like >>49992900 said, people around here are too fucking triggered and always go for extremism, because apparently being moderate and cooperative with each other is for pansies and we should all be monkey autists instead.

And don't you dare point this out or you're some dreaded Antired shitposter who's trying to kill the holy Jumpchain. Surely it isn't our own cancer killing us. Nope. We're totally pure and wholesome jumpers, what SMT/Naruto shitvomiting? What are you talking about?

>>49992936
You're being baited by the shitposter.

>>49992936
That guy just likes to have jumpmakers kowtow to his bitching, and gets pissy if they tell him to take a hike. Ignore his salty ass.

>>49992943
There's a really interesting thing that the Royal Seal has, since it only costs 150 discounted, and gives 9 items of equal strength based upon the setting and the background of the jump that you use it in.

So I was considering a natural Royal Seal build of 54 (6 purchases) items, and seeing what settings have the strongest "level" of items, stuff like keyblades and whatnot.

>>49991432
Wow. Kinda nice to know I'm not the only one.

>>49992601
My imagination made me think of Heaven's having a hat filled with paper slips of every NIS game antagonist and villain.

Heaven's draws from the bag and accidently picks up 2 names.

Revya or Noir.

Heavens then flips a coin and gets Revya Just joking with you.

Has my memory failed me or did we have an Angel Beats jump at so point?

What are some jumps where /pol/ was right and you can solve the world's problems by killing one specific group?

>>49992972
Yup, there's one of the big complaints multiple people had that SJ told to piss off.

So great we're all just putting it on the drive because she wants it and doesn't want to get rid of her broken options.

>>49992907
It's the shitposter replying to himself.

>>49992945
And you make it so much better with your constant complaining.

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>>49992974
How did you know.

>>49992972
Didn't she remove that? How the fuck is the jump on the drive with that meta bullshit still in it?

>>49992887
It's our resident shitposter, he's just upped his game. You can tell because his posting all follows one thread: shutting down jumps, jump makers, and ultimately the thread.

He's not getting tons of (You)'s right now with his Red stuff, so now he's bitching about Heavens.

But it's not even about that.

His most recent posts are all about how the thread is done, jumpchain is over, and we're all too stupid to understand that. It's the same shit he's been spewing for years. I'm not saying that this thing goes on forever, but it's not over tonight so don't sweat his bullshit right now. He just got fed up with us making fun of him on school nights and calling him out on the weekends.

Make a jump, take a jump, post a build, writefag something, or just shoot the shit about jumping. Enjoy the ride, anon, and don't sweat the bullshit.

>>49992990
Doesn't make me wrong.

>>49993005
It must be so handy how you have a universal shut down button for anything that criticises anything you don't want criticised.

>>49992818
I like this post because it's the most obvious desperate plea, it's basically saying "Please die, I've shitposted for years and dedicated by entire life to killing you, why won't you just die so I can do something else!?"

Yet never do you consider to yourself that maybe you just need to stop and leave us alone, because this place shouldn't be the defacto fixture of your life.

>>49993016
That's how this place works. Anything that doesn't involve agreeing with the extremism of interjump balance and ultimate power is labeled as a shitposter. You can't discuss anything here.

>>49992972
Why don't you listen when people tell you you're feeding the shitposter?

Why don't you fucks just stop talking to and/or about him?

>>49992999
I thought you were right so I checked the version on the drive again.

>Royal Seals [300] (Discount Royal): This is a set of nine powerful and unique relics customized and fitting your origin and the world they’re from that are scattered around each world you visit from now on. Doesn’t work properly if you’re a Drop-in, since it can’t be tailored to your origin. Instead the seals just contain a random assortment of items, though they will be items of the same general power level. You do not receive a map to these items, nor any indication of where they are, but they’ll always be some place theoretically reachable. They’ll always be sealed in matching containers that only you can open. You’ll always recognize them for what they are when you see them, so you don’t need to wonder if you found them all or not. These items do not follow you from jump to jump, but rather each jump will have its own set. You can choose to keep an item from this set, but doing so means that all future sets will have one less item.

So the only limitations I see is that the 9 have to be the same general power level, you have to find them (which isn't that hard since it's always reachable and you'll always recognize them), you can't be a drop in in a new jump (Some jumps don't even have drop in options so this is circumstantial), and you have to lock them 1 by 1.

So a Royal Seal Build is still technically feasible.

Nice double trips by the way

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>>49992991

>>49992978
We never did, and I don't think anyone is working on one.

It'd be fun though, but you'd have to address the death thing somehow. Since "people don't die under normal circumstances" is a thing in that setting.

>>49993039
I wasn't aware that it was shitposting to discuss possible builds from a jump? The combination is there, and it's interesting to consider what it can do. We're not even talking about disgaea anymore.

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In an attempt to direct attention elsewhere, have this.

Tell me how I messed up, /JC/.

THIS SHIT HAS GONE IN LITERAL CIRCLES NOW.

>>49993044
Okay, seriously. Can we just take that fucking drive off until SJ-chan takes out the option giving people 9 high level artefacts in every other jump? No need to worry about paying for the Seven Mist Swords in Naruto, just go on a treasure hunt for a week or two and save a few thousand cp.

Seriously Brutus, put it in WIP until she can come back and actually defend this ridiculously OP shit.

>>49993061
Everything is shitposting now. You're shitposting by talking about shitposting. We're all shitposters now.

>>49993061
He's viciously attacking Heavens, you, and SJ and talking about how you're all awful people, and you think that's not bait?

>>49989228
It's a total abstraction, just in my head. Basically no left-brain involvement, that idiot on the right side keeps making 90% of the decisions.

>>49991088
Before my Jumper became the smooth, suave, super-powered badass he is today, he was a huge geek about all things scifi, fantasy, and horror.

He's still that guy, deep down.

>>49991278
Trying to make trees that grow bacon and hamburgers and steaks and pizzas.
Self-sustaining schnapps springs.
>>49992532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhvrnfprSTM

>>49993070
fucking jump off* I think you mean anon.

>>49993070
Look I just thought it was cool to have 54 keyblades flying around in Final Form man. Then I could go over to Sora and we'd engage in rounds of Keyblade Envy while slapping each other with our keyblades and admiring their lengths and completely fucked up designs.

Then we'd go for some sea salt ice cream.

>>49993066
>Tell me how I messed up
Well, you made a jump out of flavor of the week trash series. That's a screw up right there.

I'm kidding, I'll read through it in a bit.

>>49993040
Has ignoring them ever worked? If you don't disagree with their complaints then it gives them legitimacy. I don't want people to think that the shitposter has a point.

>>49992991
Hey Heavens. Is Drawback Reyva a grill or a boy.
I need to know for reasons.

>>49993066
Hay, now I can get a ghoulfriend just in time for halloween!

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>>49993097
No one man should have all that keyblade mang

>>49993103
Yes. Back in the past, people would actually shut him down entirely and he'd stop posting for a bit. Nowadays people constantly feed no matter what so he keeps going and going.

Then again, I think you are him considering he's been replying to himself and other people about how it's not him and how you should totally reply before.

>>49993103
Man, you're dumb.

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>>49993118
LOOK I HAVE A FRIEND CALLED TACHIBANA AND HE REALLY LIKES BLADES

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How much love do you have in your heart?

>>49993128
You know, something else came up in the past too. A really good post was made about how painting everyone bad as 'him' or 'the shitposter' or giving them a name like 'Antired' just gave them power, because all they, or anyone else with a desire to cause a shit storm, had to do then was say the name and people would instantly go into a shitstorm. It was and apparently still is an extremely effective way to discredit other people or stop people talking about something you don't want talked about. Just call them the shitposter or antired.

Just something interesting to think about if you really want to stop feeding 'him'.

>>49993070
I wouldn't say it's too OP. It's certainly a strong build, but getting a ton of high level artifacts is something any jumper can do without it assuming they even exist.

You already don't need to pay for the mist swords. Just kill the fuck out of the swordsmen. They're not that tough comparitively, and getting the swords to listen to you is plenty doable with the proper persuasion.

>>49993145
All the love.

Or at least enough for half a dozen waifus and several childrenu.

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>>49991088
Always. Even when I arrive to the sound of klaxons and glare of red lights, screams and suffering filtering through it all, there is always something new to experience. Sometimes it is the simple knowledge that I am going to leave the universe better than I found it, other times it is more the surprise when the story I know goes wildly off the rails.

>>49991168
Forgotten Realms Wizards have a prestige class that focuses on Blood Magic. Lets you store magic potions in your blood, literally command a person's blood to rip itself out of their body, and even teleport using people. As a bonus, you can gib the guy on your way out.

>>49991278
Trying to survive Gravity Falls' multiverse. Bill woke up a few years after he was "killed" and was more than a little annoyed at me for spoiling his fun the first time around. So he banished me to an alternate Gravity Falls. He called it Universe Blue. I'm desperately trying to recreate the Interdimensional Portal from the Journals in an attempt to get back. Dipper and Mable are killing people and then controlling them through necromancy. What the fuck multiverse?

>>49993145
Enough to headpat absolutely everyone.

>>49993164
You keep trying this to get people to feed you more. People have built up a resistance.

>>49993164
But anon, anyone who criticizes anyone is the shitposter. Clearly we have no jumpmakers who do anything wrong and everything's perfect. So you must be the shitposter talking to yourself with fifteen phones and superhuman processes. /scarcasm

>>49993066
You should merge the two point describing each kakuhou into one point, as is it looks a bit confusing. Also, you mention kakuja a few times without explicitly stating that they're the result of the cannibalism as described in the Red One perk. You should make that clearer. Finally, the entry for Let's Go Home Already under One-Eyed Monarch is missing. Other than that, looks good.

>>49993168
Except if you kill them, you actually need to kill a bunch of tough ninja and possibly deal with the big wanted level from Mist and other countries. Here you just get it all for free, +2 extra artefacts, for spending a little time searching.

Or do what Dirge does and just get dozens of all the artefacts in each setting. Is getting 52 keyblades free not unbalanced and disrespectful towards the jump of Kingdom Hearts? Seems like offering so many expensive items in another jump free is pretty shitty to me.

>>49993066
You should probably reorganize it a bit, as it is now the general not discounted perks are smoshed in the middle of the origin perks which makes it a bit hard to read. You should probably create another section for general perks or just move them to the bottom of all the origin perks.

Other than that this jump is looking nice.

>>49993066
>These cells have the appearance of a curled up fetus
>they cannot digest anything other then human flesh and black coffee
What the fuck kind of setting is this?!

>>49993145
>That image
I'm not sure whether to find that sweet or hilarious. The "and died" is so abrupt it's actually kind of funny.

>>49993200
One that isn't as fucked up as it sounds. It's fucked up, don't get me wrong, but it's less edgy than you'd think for having a protagonist who eats human flesh.

>>49993066
Looks good. My only criticism so far is that it doesn't seem like you will be able to keep up with the power creep of the series based on what I'm seeing, and that the capstone booster might have been better off as 'Rize's Kagune' given how bizarrely hyped that slag has gotten as of recently.

Also, Ghouls have vulnerabilities in their mucous membranes. Not sure if lips would fall under that.

>>49993195
You can get hundreds of thousands of keyblades in kingdom hearts if you're willing to grave rob.
But I do see what you mean. Giving out things from other jumps sounds rude. But if you compare it to drop rate perks doesn't it do the same thing?

>>49993040
Setting aside how retarded >>49993103 is, the real answer is that if we ignore him he'll just respond to himself until he says something that gets responded to. Such is shitposting.

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>>49991631
I was able to compartmentalize what was happening to a degree. I think the only thing that really unsettled me was the whole thing with Tricia.
She just... breaks. And Shauna tries so hard to take care of her. And it just doesn't work.

On the other hand, I found just about everyone else to be hilarious. I loved having Kanon on my team. And I thought it was really cute the way Dio and his brother made amends.

So it was kindof a give and take for me. I'd be hard pressed to decide which plotline I liked more.
At least the Demon Path is very short.

>>49991817
I also lost the last fight.
But it wasn't on purpose.
Rather, it was because of THAT BITCH LAYNA.
STEAMROLLING THROUGH ALL MY SHIT.

LEGENDARY HERO BULLSHIT.

>>49993225
Are you forgetting the part where a bunch of yokels cheerfully and slowly crush the head of a teenage girl with a road roller, repeatedly, until she dies?

>>49993234
>power creep

Wait how the fuck.

>>49993200
What sort of biological process could only leave you able to eat human flesh and black coffee? Are they a natural species?

>>49993242
Not sure how perks that give you a better chance at getting neat loot equals a guaranteed gaining with some search of at least 9 high power, unique artefacts you will gain in each setting from the setting.

>>49993259
Yes. I actually had forgotten that.

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>>49993234
>houls have vulnerabilities in their mucous membranes
What kind of fucked up weakness is that? What's next, a vulnerability to bullets?

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>>49993259
>road roller
I think I know who those yokels were related to...

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>>49993250
She used the souls of the dead to their fullest.

>>49993274
Their attitude is always the part that gets me. They can think she's better off dead all they want, but you don't fucking murder a teenage girl, one you knew and who grew up with you, while she begs for her life, in a cheerful mood unless you're a complete sociopath.

>>49993104
It is a mystery.

>>49993066
You made a jump for a shitty setting that no one sane would want powers from.

>>49993104
Flip a coin.

>>49993259
Yokels gonna yokel Anon.

Is it full grim dark like Akame Ga Kill? Are the people in that universe so messed up that it's difficult to picture how they ever developed civilisation?

>>49993066
Ghoul Physiology sounds like it's giving you a permanent dependence on human flesh. That should go away post jump or at least be locked to an alt form.

>>49993327
Speak for yourself, there's plenty to do here. Not everything is about the power, fucktard.

>>49993338
No, but there's a vibe of "Are the humans REALLY any better than the ghouls?"

>>49993066
Pretty good for a start. Bunch of missing stuff so far though, I assume that's why it's a WIP

>>49993327
You think people here are sane?

>>49993338
>Is it full grim dark like Akame Ga Kill?
I, having only read up to chapter 60, consider it worse.

>>49993273
Getting an unlimited amount of chances at getting setting loot that wouldn't exist otherwise and is exceptionally high quality depending on the version is similar to questing for a limited amount of high end artifacts that wouldn't exist otherwise.

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>>49992291
Well, if this includes THE WAREHOUSE ITSELF, the stasis pods, the force field and other things I normally can't manipulate being plugged into what I CAN like my reality engines and sword of Dharma-

I'm guessing an FK-class which from a human perspective would be indistinguishable from a ZK.

>>49992304
Oh dear.

Uh. Who are those other people and why are they in the same weight division as someone I'm getting the impression is basically Chara?

>>49992532
Lovecraft.

Nobody belongs anywhere.

Everything is the fever dream of a blind idiot.

Nothing matters.

At least in real life, you can play pretend you matter with enough chemicals. Here, the world is crawling with things that remind you of your utter insignificance, some of which will be more than happy to talk to you in your dreams.

>>49993200
One with awful taste, apparently. I mean black coffee? Seriously? Do they take their orange juice with toothpaste too?

It's almost like this place is some kind of dark reflection of Toriko.

>>49993352
That's horrifying.

>>49993354
At least to me, there's a huge gap between the loot you get from monsters and high level artefacts. Dunno about you anon.

>>49993262
Like remember how Rize was had a unique Kagune with really good regen, but was otherwise a S rank who got fucked by some steel girders? Remember how crazy dangerous both Owls were, to the point where throwing hundreds of people at it to deplete it's stamina to the point where an entire team of special class investigators could beat it?

Well in Re, some weird faggo-sexual no-name reks the Owl in two pages, and later attributes it to Rize's Kagune. And given that we see him do literally nothing else on that level, it's likely Furuta was telling the truth.

Granted, the writing also took a noticeable turn for the worse around that point, but still. The point of this rambling is that Rize's kagune is literally the best.

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>>49993362
>Toriko
>TORIKO

I HAVE SEEN THE REINCARNATING WHEEL OF KARMA

AND IT IS DELICIOUS

>>49993104
Doesn't matter, unholy heights.

>>49993111
Have fun!

>>49993184
They're not quite finished yet and I'll see what I can do.

>>49993197
I haven't taken the time to give them their own little section yet, and will do so soonish.

>>49993200
A setting where the main character believes that if he was one, it'll be in a tragedy. And it is.

>>49993234
That part was written off of memory, I'll check the manga to see what Yamori said and adjust as needed.

>>49993340
So far it's planned that you and any ghoul companions will be able to eat human food after the jump ends. Likely will have something that any animal/sapient humanoid you eat now have Rc cells or some such.

>>49993392
Currently having a wait and see approach to it.

>>49993066
If you take the entire Investigator tree, are you basically Arima?

>>49993343
>Not everything is about the power
Perhaps my utter disdain for the setting made me misspeak.

Let me be clear, any Jumper who becomes a ghoul is someone I would consider unintelligent. Leaving aside moral quandaries, when your food is people, that tends to limit where you can go to "places with people". That's not a good idea for a Jumper, in my opinion.

>>49993430
Yes. With the capstone booster, you're Arima + Quinx.

>>49993431
And places with people are such limited settings. Cities? Fucking nothing to do in those tiny places. The empty wilderness is where it's at meng.

>>49993362
Baal is a malevolent Overlord who crosses into other universes/Netherworlds to kill the Overlords their and take them over. He actually causes the plot for the first game by accident, when he came to Laharl's Netherworld and fought his father (the Overlord at the time) to a mutual kill. This kicks off the war for the throne and ruins the potential peace the former Overlord was trying to create with Seraph Lamington. He's fough as a bonus boss with a level of 4000.

The other two are the most powerful protagonists, with the last one being the former Overlord who managed to kill Baal at the cost of his own life. He ended up reincarnating as a seemingly silly character who tries to test and help his son and his group from behind the scenes, acting like a goofy rival despite being one of the strongest characters in the setting.

>>49993431
unless you have something like the lab specimen hotline from SCP where they will deliver "human" to you.

It's like a pizza delivery!

>>49993431
Any jumper who can't overcome something as utterly trivial as a body that can only digest human flesh isn't worth being called a jumper.

>>49993431
Anon, unless the jumper makes a habit of trekking alone in the wild for a decade, it's a safe bet they'll be in 'places with people' for most of the jump even if they don't pick ghoul.

>>49993382
I just don't really think it's a majorly big deal. At least not enough of one to be getting the jump removed from the drive.
You probably shouldn't be able to buy it more than once just for the cheese factor, but otherwise it's not significantly more broken then going out and getting the goods yourself.
I do think it could use a revamp because it is rude to be handing out stuff from other jumps like that Especially at such a cheap price, but it doesn't come with the CP insurance so there's still a reason to get things normally.

>>49993382
I'm not the same anon, but no, not really. There's going to be lootable high-level items anyway, and it's not like this is a videogame where you can't just skip past the boss loot the shit out of it anyway.

>but they’ll always be some place theoretically reachable

Know what else is "theoretically reachable"? The end of LoT with all drawbacks acting like an idiot. Beating Origin form ToP head-on with dakka alone. Point is, it's not a guarantee that you'll find any of them.

>>49993362
Baal is the traditional bonus boss of the Disgaea series, called Tyrant Overlord. He's apparently evil enough to warrant Krichevskoy needing to defeat him in personal combat and dying in the attempt. He's Level 4000, in a world where level 1000 is enough to destroy a planet in a temper tantrum.

Krichevskoy is one of the other Disgaea heavyweights, but he's currently dead and regaining his strength at time of plot. He was also super benevolent as an Overlord, basically being good in all but name, and worked to make peace between the Netherworld and Celestia. You know him as Vyers.

Valvatorez can't really be accessed in this jump, neither can Zetta. Valvatorez, at the height of his power, was enough to be a consistent challenge to all of these, to the point where Zetta openly calls him a worthy opponent. Why this is significant, we'll get to later. He's currently a shadow of his former self due to promising to never drink human blood until a particular moment - he's a vampire, you see.

Zetta, finally, is the most famous 'badass' of the NIS-verse, something he'll loudly proclaim at the first opportunity. He's absurdly strong, and he knows it - I think his level at story start before he shoots himself in the foot is level 4000, like Baal? He's also really reckless, impulsive, and consistent works to earn his Overlord credentials with some school-grade villainy. Thing is, his power is actually coming from somewhere else...

You won't run into at least two of these, and they generally won't take issue with a Jumper. So you're fine.

>>49993431
Anon, I don't think you understand how much of idiots people can be here. You have people who look at powers that drive you insane if you consume innocent souls and go "Let's devour trillions of random people for power, nothing can go wrong". That and a shitton of vampire powers/soul consuming powers in the chain. That said, stories where someone is coming to terms with it can be interesting if done right.

>>49993471
>Doesn't come with CP insurance
Isn't it handy the jump also gives you an item to give CP insurance to whatever you want?

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>>49993431
I already genetically engineered non-sapient but human-based bloodbags to feed myself in vampire jumps. I don't really have to do anything but make 'em meatier and my dietary requirements are filled.

>>49993431
So all you need is perks that remove your need for nourishment or just keep a supply of people to eat. Companions do respawn after all.

>>49993483
>Point is, it's not a guarantee that you'll find any of them.
Bullshit. With jumpchain, any chance that isn't 0% might as well be treated as a guaranteed 100%.

>>49993485
Not like they're a threat anyway. By your own words you can reach the thousands of levels in 6 months anyway. A year or two should be enough for you to curb stomp most of these guys.

>>49993431
>That's not a good idea for a Jumper, in my opinion.

You've clearly not read many of the chains that various anons have posted, much less the named ones.

I mean, we have jumpers eating souls left and right, destroying worlds for resources, waifuing concepts or previously inanimate objects, or blowing up moons because they can, just as a few examples.

Bad ideas are a cornerstone of jumpchain, it's what every single jumper does at some point. Where do you think you are?

>>49993470
Just throwing shit at the wall, but maybe TokyoAnon could include an undiscounted perk that allows you to sustain yourself beyond your usual dietary limits? Like how some people think Metavore allows you to eat sand.

>>49993500
Metavore?

>>49993485
Reminder that Pram is best girl.

>>49993501
>>49993507
So much projecting it's hilarious.

>>49993066
I'm suddenly reminded of a plan someone had for a different jump a long time ago. Basically, billing themselves as a surgeon, putting patients under, feasting on their innards, then using healing magic to regrow the consumed parts and fix whatever was wrong with them initially.

Something like that might be a good plan for jumper ghouls who don't want to kill people.

>>49993518
Why? It seems completely counter to one of the biggest parts of being a ghoul, would be pointless for non ghouls and doesn't really fit in setting anyway. You shouldn't make a perk just to appease people whining about a part of the setting that isn't exactly what they want it to be.

>>49993537
It would be a lot more reasonable to just have the dietary restriction disappear post-jump, I think.

>>49991088
RP aside, I sort of do, but only if I enjoyed the setting already to begin with. A lot of why I like series or games is due to how much I enjoy the world aesthetic or background.
>for god's sake I enjoyed tripe like the Freedom Wars vita game
>the game is unfinished crap with cliche cutout characters
>but i love it so
>i ordered the fucking artbook from japan when shipping cost more than the actual goddamn book

There's a ton of stuff I probably shouldn't have done (e.g. the LoTR jump, because I don't dislike Tolkien, but I only had a passing nerd interest in classical fantasy adventure), but did so because I needed another jump to occupy my daily daydream time or else face up to the daily existential dread of life.

The Overlord Jump has occupied me for two weeks now, even if I don't think it's completely balanced.

>>49993544
Which he's already said he's adding in.

>>49993544
seconded. That is probably the best way to do it.

>>49993535
That's confusingly fucked up. Did they have a reason for it?

>>49993532
I don't think you know what projecting is.
Or maybe you just showed up yesterday, but people outright brag about shit like that in these threads.

>>49993532
Name me a chain that hasn't eventually gone full evil or "lulz no humanity time to use human resources" in time. Dante Must Die mode: It can't be a build people have accused of attention whoring.

>>49993518
For the record, ghouls only need to eat once a month and that their tastebuds are configured so everything not black coffee or human flesh tastes bad.

I will note that ghouls sustain themselves and grow off of Rc cells, so science/magic something up maybe?

>>49993535
Plausible. Very plausible. Would have to work to not get caught.

>>49993544
>>49993567
This. >>49993562

>>49993562
I must have missed that. Excellent, then.

>>49993569
I think it was meant for an earlier version of the Touhou jump, where Youkai were required to eat human flesh. It was probably just a thematic thing, because "doctor who fixes you but then eats part of your liver as payment" sounds like a folklore monster, doesn't it?

>>49993573
???

Most people don't post builds or chains despite actually doing both. I myself have had multiple chains that never went evil because... I'm not evil?

What kind of stupidity drives you to post these things?

>>49993573
Severa-

>Spoilers

WELL *FUCK*, best I can come up with is the Jeremiah Bowers / Cowboy Jumper and that one guy who constantly made Native Jumpers who had that Reploid, White Mage, and a few others.

>>49993573
Do my chains count? None of them have gone that way. Even my jumper-as-a-monster chain was basically based around being the thing that monsters worry about at night. Who was then shown the glory of his humanity due to Sword and Sorcery, then had it pounded into his head with 20,000 years in the 40k verse.

>>49993537
...Anon. Do you know how many perks we have that are based on preventing you from making the same failings the protagonists did? Or removing the weaknesses to canon things? There are quite a few, but if you want me to list some I will.

I mean, I don't particularly want the perk added, just thought I should point this out.

>>49993446
I see. Okay, looking up the wiki to figure out what the hell is going on in Soul Nomad it seems this Gig fellow a) is apparently channeling Shia Labeouf's power, which is horrifying and b) was corrupted by something called Drazil. Is there any info on this guy? I know so little about Disgaea's apparnetly multiversal setting that for all I know there is an evil overlord Shia Labouf out there spreading his dank memes across all existence.

>>49993066
>Unravel

Who's it by? Tell me a little more about the soundtrack.

>Half-Human

I'm a little confused-does it actually make you weaker than an average ghoul/half-ghoul if you took it as one?

Other than that, apart from what everyone else said I like what I see so far. Generally, I think it could benefit from explaining some of the terminology more thoroughly and clarifying whether the researcher capstones apply to things other than working with ghouls. Good work so far!

>>49993489
Damn it man I'm trying to play doubles advocate here, but you're making it very difficult.
To be honest I agree that it probably shouldn't get on the drive in it's current state. Guess it's a good thing that it's still in uploads then isn't it? Perhaps if you ask him Brutus will put it on hold until SJ-chan gets back. I certainly wouldn't bitch if you did.

>>49993605
I know. What in my post made you think I was saying they don't exist? Them existing doesn't mean I don't think it's stupid and a perk like that for Tokyo Ghoul would only be to placate whiners who don't like a integral part of the setting.

>>49993501
So why the fuck don't you treat getting all the high-powered shit in canon as 100% guarantee when the source material tells you where the fuck it is?

>>49993578
>Plausible. Very plausible. Would have to work to not get caught.
A better plan, and one you might be able to get away with given how dark this setting sounds, is to find someone really bad, keep them trapped somewhere, and then just do the "eat parts of their body and then regrow them" thing to them.

Less likely to get caught, you see. If you have resurrection perks as well, you could probably just hide their corpse in the warehouse between feedings.

>>49993619
Not who you're talking to but I don't think it should get on the drive period. It has Abraxas's stench all over it.
I'd rather someone competent made one from scratch really.
But that's proabably not going to happen.

>>49993608
Will do! As for half-humans, it grants you the physical capabilities of a ghoul but lack their kagune among other things. Keep in mind that the top Ghoul Investigator is one and that well. The guy leaves behind a massive trail of ghoul corpses and is considered the scariest person alive.

And yes, the researcher capstones apply to other things.

>>49993619
I don't have a problem with most of the jump either. It's options like these few meta/other jump affecting things that need fixing. Someone's already put out a call for Brutus to take it off the drive till the maker comes back and I agree with at least holding it back until these issues are resolved.

By the way, think you meant devil's advocate

>>49993066
For Unshakeable, Unbreakable, being able to heal fractures in hours for a capstone seems kind of... underwelming compared to what we see upper tier ghouls accomplish.

Red One is even more lackluster for a capstone, given that it only let's you retain your sanity after forming a Kakujou. Maybe make it as a huge willpower/ self control boost? Maybe also helping out with combat abilities. Especially since Ghouls have that whole predatory/dehumanization instinct that kicks in when they get hungry.

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>>49993573
It's been a while but I don't remember Skellyanon, Lucarioanon or Hoboanon ever getting to that stage. I think Wakfu ran a few non-yandere builds back in the day, and I haven't been following Jane Doe's chain very closely but I don't remember any notable genocides. And in all fairness to Burgli, he's loyal to his own species, not humanity.

>>49993594
>>49993599

...but did you go ahead with any "bad ideas", is the real question. Something, anything that you shouldn't have done, but you did anyways, because it was "worth the risk".

The whole evil thing the other anon posed can be a real slippery slope, since jumper morality is sometimes very loose. Not for everyone, but it can be.

>>49993044
Hmm. Even if you take a non-drop-in background to avoid the randomization issue, the only guarantee is that they're "powerful" and "unique" and "fitting your origin", and that covers a lot of territory.

E.g. if you went to Kingdom Hearts as a keyblade wielder, there's no guarantee whatsoever any of the relics will be keyblades, let alone all of them, particularly if you've already got one as part of your background. More likely they'd be other magical accessories that would suit a keyblade wielder, I'd imagine.

tl,dr; if you're finding nine relics that are the equivalent of The Maguffin in every single jump, that says a lot more about you than it does the perk.

So while I think the perk is under-priced, it's not THAT bad.

>>49993608
Gig is the Master of Death AKA the Grim Reaper. In ancient times, there was an extremely powerful king who's child was killed by a plague, and when Gig, then named Vigilance, came to collect their soul, the king killed him. Drazil is a god of another world, and corrupted Gig so that all the souls that died in that world would go to his instead. Gig is actually far stronger then Drazil, and in fact is one of the strongest beings in the NIS multiverse, given that his power in the hands of the Devourlord overwhelmed two gods (including Drazil) and destroyed their worlds.

>>49993661
Hm. Seems I didn't portray it right, you're supposed to be around Kaneki's level i.e regenerate toes and fingers in a day and take a huge amount of punishment, physically and mentally.

That one too. Likely should have expanded that sanity gave self-control and the urge to NOT "I'mma eat my best friend or girlfriend because I'm dying and I need food now."

Well, I'm going off for the night. Leave any comments/suggestions and I'll look them over tomorrow.

>>49993620
Eh, sometimes it's kind of thematic. Hero makes a fatal mistake due to being too far up his own ass? Include a perk that makes you more aware of your flaws. Wizard gets BTFO 'cause he's squishy as fuck? Include a perk that slightly increases your physical fitness the more you study. Personally, I rather enjoy such perks.

>>49993701
So basically everything is Drazil's fault?

Who even is this guy? What's his damage?

>>49993684
The only bad ideas I followed involved occasionally picking fights (AKA grabbing certain drawbacks) that I didn't need to because it was useful. But after your first couple genius perks the only reason a jumper would pursue those sorts of 'bad ideas' is because he's being written by a fucking moron.

>>49993573
Actually wait, best example-UncleDante.

>>49993694
I never said it was bad? I just said that it's a very viable applicable and unique build.

Whether I would take it or not largely depends on what jumper I'm using, but as far as basic considerations go, that item combination is probably one of the most interesting ones in the place.

I used the keyblades as an example, and that was only because I had a different discussion regarding KR Blade/Gundam CCA and it turned into a discussion about KH's Final Form.

>>49993175
>bit about FR blood wizards telegibbing people
>followed by "enough to headpat absolutely everyone
>tfw when I initially misread it as "enough to headsplat absolutely everyone"

>>49993694
The problem being that 'magical accessories' don't really fit the powerful and unique parts, unless you're talking about the really high end ones. Nor does your 'it's more impressive for you' 3rd line make much sense, since nowhere does it indicate it's power level is based on yours, just that it's powerful and based on the setting.

Even that still has the same problem of giving out cp items from other jumps free too.

>>49993684
In my primary chain, I tried to clean up Dead Space and purge the effects of the corruption caused by the markers. It went poorly, I didn't catch the ones who incited the riots in time, but the majority of humanity was still saved and the LoT built fleets to hunt down and annihilate the Brethren Moons with mostly-native tech. I mean, hell, if you can crack planets, cracking moons is nothing. But the death toll from the riots was formidable.

>>49993656
It's just a finger of speech.
Just because finished jumps are a diamond dozen doesn't mean we have to turn a blonde eye to things that bother us.
I think if she comes back and mustards up the strength to fix it, the jump would be a peach of cake to finish.
Unfortunately she seems to be a bit of a pre-Madonna so who knows what will happen when she gets back.

>>49992532
9 to 5.

>>49993779
You're awful. Awwwful.

>>49992532
Nechronia. It's fucked and will stay fucked.
But not in the peaceful quiet of everyone being dead, because it's not allowed to end there.

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Hey everybody, Slime Rancher is coming along nicely. My research is done and most ideas are solidified. I'll fill in all the details later, i'm tired and i'm going to be busy all day tomorrow but Saturday is free so expect a much closer to complete version sometime then Meanwhile here's the skeletal WIP with a few perks written out.

It's still quite in it's infancy so don't worry it will look much better when I upload the next WIP on Saturday.

>>49993723
Like I said, he's the god of another world, with his own Master of Death and Master of Life serving under him. As for his damage? Let me put it this way: the world is named after him, there is only one species on it (and their race is also named after him), and they all look and act the same. And by act the same, I mean they all do what he says and worship him. He's got an absolutely massive ego, and he started the whole plot because he wanted even MORE people to worship him. He does apologize to the other god in the Demon path's bad end, but by then it is too little, too late.

Oh, by the way, the race does have free will, and it is possible to get them to stop obeying him, they're just...used to it. To the point where they ask questions to the MC and one of their allies in her ending on how to think freely and have a culture, specifically how to name their children after things other then Drazil.

>>49993789
That setting is on my list of settings to revisit. I took drawbacks just so I could take the maximum possible number of Sisters with me. I fixed them while I was there, and left them in Slice of Life.

I just realized that I can bring Konasse with me to that jump, I'm going to do that, fix as many of the dead as I can, and let them live there until the city finds itself a world to belong to.

>>49993794
This is a skeleton? I'm joking

Is there anything more to the setting besides taking a whole bunch of slimes and going Harvest Moon with them? Like did they reveal why you were slime farming in the first place.

How do you guys fluff Conjoined Conjures as working?

>>49993701
king must have been a bamf

>>49993836
Nope.

But really the next big update is supposed to explain the player character (beatrix?)'s backstory. Apparently through letters from home.

But the game is fun cuz Harvest Moon with cute slimes.

>>49993842
It's pretty intuitive. You take two magic systems that you understand deeply, pick the parts of each you like best, and mash them all together to from a new magic system.

>>49993742
Fair enough. It's the sort of perk I'd be tempted to take myself, even if just for the opportunity to go searching each new setting looking for the things, wondering what I'm going to find.

Especially since my main chain is drop-in, so it's kind of the jumpchain equivalent of Forrest Gump's box of chocolates.

>>49993750
Maybe it's my years of playing D&D, but "powerful and unique" doesn't automatically equal "major artifact" to me. A flying ship, or a magic ring that allows you to ignore the magical barrier that protects the labyrinth-vaults of a lost empire? I'd count those as powerful and unique.

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Hey /jc/

Which Warframe is best Warframe?

And which Bootyframe is best Bootyframe?

>>49993842
It's a process of understanding. Not an instant "mash two systems together, get third system" action, but an intuitive grasp for how to develop new spells drawing on both magical traditions. In time, having made enough such spells, a new school is born.

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>>49993858
Oh fuck yes, he was. King Median is a total, god-slaying badass. It's a shame he did literally everything incorrectly.

Also I'm posting this doozy.

Main Character [500]* - You’re not just anyone, you’re a protagonist! The star! The shining beacon of hope or despair! The one people constantly complain about on the internet and wish one of your companions took the lead instead! Well, screw them. You’ve even got a unique portrait to show for it. Your weight and importance to this world gives you the ability to unlock the same within others – in exchange for a considerable but temporary decrease in your power and energy reserves, you may unlock the potential within others – effectively granting them the Level One perk. They will have none of the skil, training, or even innate power of the beings in this world – but with a certain handsome Jumper training them hard enough, they can now reach greater heights of skill and power. It doesn’t remove their limitations, and doesn’t affect any in-universe powers – but that particular ceiling is now much, MUCH higher. This also unlocks the true potential of the various abilities of the realms, as follows...

Drop-In: You can now apply the experience-gain perk via defeat and narrow victories to your students.

Netherworld: Your Noble Demon tendencies will draw followers and minions to you, many of whom will be loyal to you and your chosen principles.

Celestia: Manifest your anti-evil enhancements as beams of light and other neat things.

Earth: Make items fueled by heroic spirit, like Ranger belts or other Toku nonsense.

>>49993723
> So basically everything is Drazil's fault?
More or less?
> Who even is this guy? What's his damage?
He's the god of the other world. It's been like a decade since I played the game, but as much as I can remember...

Soul Nomad's world has a somewhat unique cosmology. It's actually two worlds, and each has a god that looks after it in their own way. Haepheus's world is the world we know, the "normal" world, which is basically just a slightly different fantasy setting.
Drazil's world is a world of stability and law, where everyone looks the same, acts the same, has the same name, and do nothing but praise Drazil.
Drazil decides he doesn't like there being a world that doesn't praise him, and so he's going to steal all the souls from the normal world to bring them to his world so they can all be reborn as Drazils, see: >>49993820
He's basically a massive dick who thinks he's hot shit.

At the end of the normal campaign, he combines with some of his flunkies after doing some typical super pious evil god talk and you kick his ass in a boss battle.
At the end of the DEMON campaign, he actually admits that this shit is his fault and he fucked up royal, and together with Haephenus tries to stop the end of both worlds before getting instagibbed by the Devourlord (ie, you) behind a black bar censored cutscene, he loses so fucking hard.

So basically, he's just an egocentric dick and it doesn't go well for him.

>>49993890
>These two are powerful and unique
I wouldn't say so at all. I don't think a flying ship is very unique or very powerful in DnD nor do I think a ring that lets you bypass a single barrier is very powerful.

>>49993858
For reference, he would eventually lose to the far less powerful Master of Life after she possessed a mortal body. However, this was after the MC with Gig (in New Game Plus, might I add) weakened him, because of time travel. And by weakened him, I mean beat in a fight. Yes, even if you beat him, he still wins, though he is then killed by the Master of Life. What happens if you lose? Oh, he kills her too. Yes, he could have killed both the Grim Reaper and the one who gives life to people. He was that powerful.

>>49993896
None, given who made the damn pdf.

>>49993896
The blue one.

>>49993902
Now everyone can bust galaxies in 6 months!

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>>49993842
I figured it would be something similar to the process Clow Reed used to combine English and Oriental magic. So a kind of conceptual juggling act between the forces and principles behind whatever systems you're trying to hybridise.

>>49993907
It is if the barrier is strong. There's a difference between power and utility.

>>49993917
You're literally always the first reply. This is your life.

>>49993902
Looks good.

>>49993917
Suggest a better way to handle the issue you're concerned about by providing constructive criticism or shut the fuck up, I don't care which.

But shitposting makes you look like a bawling baby who just got spanked.

>>49993921
If it's a super good barrier that couldn't be bypassed by much else barring the strongest characters in the setting then yeah, it's pretty powerful. Seems close to artefact level by then to me though. If it's not that strong, why can't you just spend a few hours dispelling the barrier or destroying the spell?

>>49993902
Yep, that's protagonist power, alright. I like it.

>>49993902
And now I shall battle with Laharl for the title of main character! I WILL BE THE PROTAGONIST, YOU SHRIMP, I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE VOICED BY RITA REPULSA, YOU'RE GOING DOWN!

>>49993942
Why? Heavens has told us all he doesn't give a fuck if he trivialises every other jump. All we can do now is help him along by making sure everyone knows how easy it is to do it.

>>49993573

Yo, slut!
>>49993794
OH SHIT WHAT UP
>>49993902

MAN I want to go Earth and then do the overlording scenario to be an anti-SHOCKER almost
>inb4 i get the good guy equivalent to a Kamen Rider and it's a villainous person using the good guy tech

>>49993842
In a similar way to getting two different programming languages to play nice with each other.
So not fun to figure out in the slightest.

How many legendary pokemon did you catch when you went to pokemon?

Isn't there a D&D setting with a cowboy gunslinger class? Do we have a jump of it?

>>49993955
>he thinks this trivializes every jump
Laughing elder gods.pnggagsdasddsg

>>49993902
Besides the unique portrait, does it do anything for you personally? Capstone boosters are usually a personal buff by themselves, and 500 cp for the ability to train others to a sort of decent point while not actually removing their limitations+ personal vanity is pretty overpriced, especially compared to the discountable capstones.

>>49993942
While I don't personally take sides because I think both sides One more then the other for sure usually act stupid, I will point out that suggestions aren't likely to come forth given HeavensAnon has shot down suggestions (Good or bad, not making judgements because I don't care) with little more then the reasoning that he can't be bothered and will leave it up to the jumper to decide. Whatever side you take and I don't care which, a response like that makes actual, genuine suggestions on how to handle it very unlikely to come forth rather then just shitposting.

>>49993955
It is the butt hurt faggot! I called it.

>>49993944
Because maybe in the setting it'd normally take months or years to do it without the ring? The perk doesn't consider whether you've got out-of-setting powers that would make it easy for a jumper.

Heh. You could go to a mundane world, and the relics could be stuff like one of the Dead Sea scrolls, a previously unknown Van Gough painting, a lost blueprint by Da Vinci, etc.

>>49993989
>Sort of decent
>SORT OF DECENT
Is...is that really where we're at right now JC? That being able to train people within weeks or months to be upper DBZ levels of power is 'sort of decent'?

>>49994003
Yes, we've had substantial power creep. Now get over it and move on.

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>>49993915
I asked 2 questions nigga

Are you telling me that /jc/ doesn't have an opinion on the booty?

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>>49993896
>Best

Inaros

>spoiler

Tie between Trinity and Ember Prime

>>49993975
A grand total of zero

>>49993953
>voiced by rita repulsa
>appears to be boy

This setting just gets stranger and stranger.

>>49993975
Just one. It was Mewtwo, but not the second one, the old one.
Because he was the only Legendary I wanted that I could justify taking without sending the entire world's ecosystem and metaphysics into catatonic shock.
Also he's a cool dude once he chills out and nothing solves an existential crisis like a multiversal joyride.

>>49993997
>Doesn't consider out of context powers
Neither did I. I was asking why your wizard character in DnD (Or other magic user) can't use one of the multitude of magic dispelling/destroying spells or powers to remove the barrier? If they couldn't and the ring really is the only way through unless your on divinity level power in DnD, like I said that seems pretty close to artefact level to me.

You could also go to a Type Moon jump and pick up a bunch of higher ranked Noble Phantasms on the cheapo. In some worlds it's not bad, in other's it is pretty bad. Especially places where it's very likely to screw with other people's jumps.

>>49994003
We had that since exalted training charms.
Where have you been?

>>49993991
I didn't know about that unfortunate history and I was mainly speaking up because I've seen other dickheads do that shit before, but in that case fair enough.

>>49993955
You on the other hand should stop typing while having an anal prolapse.

>>49994015
Neat. Guess I'll go make Demonbane the Jump edition.

Probably won't even though I do have the stuff for it but is it honestly at the point where something like that can be made without being an endjump? It's just ridiculous.

>>49994023
>Trinity
I dunno man, that carapace thing on her back kinda ruins what ever is underneath.

Ember is thicc though, no denying it.

>>49994039
Demonbane is a lewd setting, that means it's banned. Make Aquarion Logos, instead, it's just as ridiculously OP and has much less pedophilia.

>>49993997
>jumper spends most of their ten years hunting down the relics in a mundane Earth jump
>eight of the relics are stuff like that - famous lost treasures of the world. Paintings, sculptures, jewellery, literature, etc.
>jumper expecting the last to be more of the same
>it's the A-4E Skyhawk that rolled off the USS Ticonderoga back in 1956 and was never found, complete with 1MT hydrogen bomb.

>>49994051
>Lewd
Nope. No more then Fate. Nice try though.

>>49994039
Yeah go for it.
I'd love a demonbane jump assuming you aren't actually shitposting about it.
I mean Demonbane shows up in SRW doesn't it? It's not some kind of impossible to make a jump from setting.

>>49994023
Humorously enough, he actually gets a female form in one of the sequels, one that is incredibly voluptuous, much to his female companions' jealousy. It becomes even more hilarious when you realize that he is allergic to those kind of women.

...one of his dad's vassals smothered him with her big boobs in order to get him to go to sleep when he was a baby. It's less an allergy and more of a phobia but he treats it like an allergy.

>>49994017
That artist has some odd tastes for sure.

>>49994057
The Demonbane is literally powered by pedophilia. That's a lot lewder than Fate. At least the "prana transfer" in that is with people old enough to give consent.

>>49994077
In Fate a 8 year old at best Sakura is raped by thousands of penis worms for years on end, while also being raped during that time by her older adoptive brother and this comes up fairly often too. So still just fine.

>>49994033
>Exalted training charms

I'm pretty sure this has to be a meme, because 1. al the ones I remember either turn mortals into heroic mortals-which is like turning regular people into the starter martial arts masters in Kung Fu Hustle, and definitely less powerful than, say, the School of the Undefeated East-or require you to KNOW THE PREREQUISITE CHARMS already for the higher-skilled charms.

...

...what the fuck am I saying? You know what? No. No, barring Dreams of the First Age, Hundredfold Facets of Enlightenment, the implied implications of the Broken Winged Crane and a very skillful use of Return of the Scarlet Empress' Ebon Dragon charms there is NO written Charm that compares to "upper DBZ levels of power" when that includes Beerus and Whis.

>>49994057
Part of me wants to talk about Kurou's dimensional pants and how is a miracle he keeps something the size of a small child down there, but this is not the time and place

>>49994066
UX only mate

>>49994003
It literally says in the description that you can't remove their limitations or bestow any innate power from Disgaea. Meaning that if you decide to train Batman, he will never be able to bench more than 1000-2000 pounds. Or throw punches with the equivalent level of force/strength. Or otherwise be able to grant him supernatural effects/skills. For 500 cp undiscounted, it kind of sucks compared to what else you can get in the jump.

Not to mention, that the capstone booster's basic effect has overlap with it's combined effect with the drop in capstone.

Also being a main character in Disgaea is generally a bit more/different than being able to train people well.

>>49994077
First of all, nice dubs. Secondly, isn't the girl he has sex with the personification of the Necronomicon? I mean, she has a child-like body, sure, but from what I've heard of the setting she fits the "Looks 7, is actually 700" trope.

>>49994066
I thought it was cleared up that Demonbane explicitly doesn't show up in the SRW that has a jump made for it? Like SRW has series and it's not this one's. Or something?

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>>49993977
I think the closest things is the Ebberon campaign setting. It's a lot more heavy on "tech" than traditional Dungeons and Dragons. It was a 3.5 campaign, but not all that popular because of some wonky mechanics and subpar treatment of firearms.

It was an /amazing/ setting though. And no, we don't have a Jump for it.

>>49993975
None. I didn't really feel the need. I was too interested in exploring the world, collecting badges, and breeding Pokemon to catch the literal elements of the universe in a ball.

>>49993896
>Best
Frost Prime. I will stand inside my ice bubble all DAY and mow down your frozen body!

>Spoiler
I'd vote Ember, but probably because that's the Warframe my wife tended to play. So I spent a lot of time staring at a back view of it.

>>49993794
Holy shit I love you for making Slime Rancher a Jump. I hope you don't leave before it finished Beta so you can keep it updated.

>>49994066
It does, but it's a bit of a quandary in SRW, since while it's amazingly strong, it's not really...as prominent as it is in its own series due to the way SRW works for individual series.

Generally making a SRW jump is possible, but the main issue has always resided in "how do you resolve the many crossover units". Each SRW always has an OC plot with the other series plots meshed in, so if you've played through the scenarios you'll have a pretty good idea of what happens. Japanese is pretty easy to read and straightforward, so it's not like watching a 状況 is impossible.

Thing is, most people won't take the effort to do it.

>>49994031
You could do that. Just keep in mind what your jumper finds is decided by you, so if you want to make your chain boring by deciding your jumper immediately finds a bunch of OP artifacts...

>>49994087
Really? I admit to only having a cursory knowledge of Fate. I thought those were just horrible parasites, not literally raping her. Well, guess we need to ban Fate too, then.

>>49994100
Yeah, I'm sure that's going to fly in court. "No, officer, she just looks seven. She's really the Necronomicon. It's not illegal to fuck a book!"

>>49994057
The original on PC was apparently an eroge that was heavy with the Cthulhu mythos

...

I'll be gone for a few hours, don't wait for me.

>>49994117
Hah. Good luck shitposter.

>>49994077
>Pedo power
Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? I can power all my stuff just using /b/.

>>49994098
>Meaning that if you decide to train Batman, he will never be able to bench more than 1000-2000 pounds
I feel like he can already bench more than that.

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>>49993902
Sorry, haven't been keeping up with threads lately.
What jump is this for?

>>49994123
Anon, I'm not shitposting. I'm being philosophically consistent. I like the Fate jump, I'd rather we keep it. But I've stated my principles and I'm not going to be a hypocrite by making exceptions for them. It's a shame, but this is the position I have to take, now.

If y'all haven't caught on: The Demonbane shit is the shitposter. Learn to ignore.

>>49994122
>Eroge
As was multiple things we have actually, Fate just the biggest example (Because of course Fate is in these threads) so it's not usually worth naming all the others.

>Cthulhu Mythos
Eh. It's Cthulhu Mythos the same way Cthulhutech is the Cthulhu Mythos. Yeah they borrow a lot of characters, monsters and deities but it doesn't feel anything like the original stuff, gets a bunch of shit wrong and isn't really all that respectful either. If you're someone who loved Lovecraft's work and go into this expecting to see more of that stuff you're going to be pretty disappointed.

And before y'all say them, 1. Fuck Obsidian Shards of Infinity Style, 2. the last Charm is still a non-Perfect Shaping effect that /explicitly/ requires a "dramatic moment" to work and 3. Creation-Slaying Oblivion Kick only works because Creation is perched precariously above Oblivion. Everywhere else, it's just...a really freaking good kick.

I think the shitposter must have finally flunked out, that's why he's always here now.

>>49994139
Thus a man's principles drag him into the abyss of shitposting. What a tragedy.

>>49994137
Disgaea.

>>49994140
Which one, the one arguing for or against it?

>>49994137
Still Disgaea, I think.

>>49994140
It's nearly always obvious which posts are shitposts. That doesn't stop the idiots in this thread. It never has, never will.

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>>49994109
Not to mention
>That one obscure franchise that will catch everyone off guard and start screaming
>there's probably one like that in every SRW
ARE YOU THERE?

>>49994157
I'm sorry? Why have your brought those up? There's no way to get access to SMA in the chain.

>>49994070
Is he stuck like that?

>>49994173
What's it like being so limited in imagination?