>looks 12 tops >barely any hint of muscle >shield probably

>>49914503
Does she have the power of the gods behind her?

If not, it's impossible.

>Baaaaw why is fiction not realistic baaaaw
Kill yourself autist.

>>49914503
You see, Ivan. We trust little girl to protect us because enemy is also little girl.

We, too, is little girl. Just look down.

That seems like a perfectly reasonable point that could be countered by seeing them in actual combat
Anyway if a 12 year old girl is holding her own in a fight I assume magic is involved somehow

Should have hired a Canadian, eh?

>>49914527
Deep inside, Vladimir, we are ALL little girl.

Look, I don't question how the tiny ass blonde loli can tear a gnoll six times her size a new asshole, I just stand back and buff and/or heal the little freak and let her do her thing.

>>49914563
Shut up Sergei.

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if the game and setting allow it, sure

I don't play with people who try and do that, though.

>>49914563
>>49914576
Ah! It is true! We are the little girl! There is something deep within me, a craving! I must have tea parties!

Look I've been burning demigods with my mind the whole time we've been together. At one point I turned into a potted plant.

Our warlock has a secret pact with something that he assures us we can't comprehend and keeps breaking laws of both physics and decency.

And the paladins' god is somehow cool with us hanging out with him.

I'm not the type to question shit at this point.

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>>49914503
After the first combat, it'll become quite obvious.

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>>49914599
I could give you all biscuits to go with that.

>>49914503
She has the power of smug

>>49914503
>Is it possible to take a character like this seriously?
Yes.

>How would anyone at the table not bust out laughing?
By not finding it funny.

>>49914554
No. Canada is worst girl and ruins the game's greatest plot twist within the game's first half hour.
>>49914503
That's the power of Himukai, man.

>>49914587
Sorry friend, but you're wearing a helmet. That makes you expendable. She doesn't have a helmet, so she's probably gonna survive, I bet she even has a name, you don't even get to have a face. You're a goner.

>>49914503
>best etrian.jpg

Anon, if you want to bait at least change the filename first.

0/10, see me after class.

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>>49914900
Clearly he has his tastes misaligned.

>>49914863
The rule of fantasy soldiers is a harsh mistress

>>49914503
>magically unaging
>magically enhanced muscles
>magically enhanced strength
>magically magical magic

>Is it possible to take a character like this seriously?
Yes

>How would anyone at the table not bust out laughing?
Magic

>>49914921
Aren't Brown protector and Brown gladiator the same person?

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>>49914921
>Loli Hexer down at 57
>MFW

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>>49917065
>everything is okay because magic

>>49914503
>Cute
I would follow her into Hell.

>>49914503

You don't. If you have less strength/health than a 12 year old, you're playing your class wrong.

>>49914503
>How would anyone at the table not bust out laughing?

I'd stop laughing about the time she single handily halted a trolls charge, but that's just me.

In a world where gnomes aren't extinct and you can survive getting swatted by a dragon size is no great indicator of strength.

>>49917065
Rant aheadSo my naked five year old loli with a giant fat dick she uses as a sword is okay because magic?

>>49917611
No, because I know you're just being a asshole.

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>>49917588
So magic makes it okay?
I'd laugh someone out of they seriously said "my character is twelve years old and can fight properly because magic". That's not an interesting or realistic as in that would ever happen even in a fantasy universe because nobody would arm a child with super strength when you can just give it to someone who knows how to fight instead of a child that would have -5 to every stat due to not being an adult.

>>49917611

If you have the right spells/enchantments/natural abilities/etc to make it happen, sure.

I'm still going to rocks fall her five minutes into the game and make you roll up something not retarded, though.

>>49917626
And you're being a creepy neckbeard who loves playing child soldiers or fap bait.

>>49917650
>Rocks falls a character in the middle of a game instead of outright saying "no, make a character that's not retarded"
Beta cuck

>>49917643
Why not? Cu Chulainn was younger than that when he was beating up literal regiments of boys older then him and killing giant murderous dogs.

>>49917674
who? Is that some myth from the time Romans were doing the naughty to little boy servants as a past time or some manga you read in privacy?

>>49917655
You're the one that stripped her nude and put a dick on her.

>>49917692
I'm just saying that child soldiers, fetish or otherwise, make poor characters on principle of stat reductions and nobody wanting to bring a child to war.

>>49917691
>Going full retard this early

You were doing so well too. Next time try not to shoot your load so quickly, you could have dragged this out at least another hour.

>>49917692
Why does the character NEED, above all else, to be a 12 year old?

>>49914563
Fuck off Ivanoff

>>49914503
>shield probably ways more than she does
>shield probably ways
>ways

HOW TO ENGRISH?!?

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>>49917643
>That's not an interesting or realistic as in that would ever happen even in a fantasy universe because nobody would arm a child with super strength

>>49917728
If you go to the argument
>A wizard did it
Then I can simply say that children aren't that because
>A wizard made it impossible to do it

>>49914503

As long as there's magic, meddling gods, supernatural phenomena, demons/devils, weird world rules that grant special perks, high tech that works like magic, or races with unusual abilities far beyond human norms, I'm not foolish enough to scoff at anything without keeping an open mind.

Basically, if we aren't playing in a strict recreation of historical real world settings, I'm not going to question shit that exists in a fantasy world as long as the world is at least somewhat consistent in how it works.

Besides, since the tiny girl is able to effortlessly carry a heavy shield that clearly weighs more than her, I'm not going to laugh in the first place since I'm usually the one playing the damn reality-breaking mage in the first place...

>>49917739
But then another wizard made it possible again
What now, nerd?

>>49917643
You mean like how children soldiers are TOTALLY not a thing, right?

>>49917756
Counterspell. Or kick you from my game, you damn child lover.

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>>49917776
They are. And they usually get mowed down by one or two adult soldiers a week into their employment.

>>49914503

Thanks this image is perfect for a character I had in mind.

>>49917779
Nobody's in your game to begin with.

>>49917664

>Five minutes in
>The middle

It's okay, Anon. Numbers can be hard.

And generally speaking, unless it's already forbidden in our group (and anything magical realmy, such as dicksword wielding lolis are), it's fair game. The GM just killing you off is fair game as well, especially if the other players hate the character as well.

Most of the time when I tell people that I'm probably going to kill them if they play that broken build/self insert/etc, they take the hint and roll up something else. Sometimes they play it anyhow to show that they can make it work even if the concept looks sketchy. Sometimes they actually manage to win me over.

Besides, whenever we get a new autist who sees that our game is pretty permissive, they do the same thing and try to create some retarded bullshit to show us how we have badwrongfun or whatever. This way plays out way funnier than them whining at me to let them play it over text for hours.

>>49917798
How would you know? I don't let sex offenders or members of the NAMBLA into my games.

>>49917799
>"the middle of a game" means the literal 50% point of the campaign
Are you actually this stupid?

>>49914503
If it's a thing in setting that a little girl can rack up xp and become a tiny hercules then anyone with sense will respect that power. They may call life experience and judgement into question however, regardless of combat learning.

>>49917779
>some people use magic to justify X concept in their games
>well I wouldn't allow it in my game!
Alright then.

>>49917716
Because it can be a neat idea if done properly, such as in the legend of Cu Chulainn, Mulan or any other number of stories about children doing exceptional things and besting powerful beings.

Remember Anon, the default adventuring party isn't a bunch of farmers who managed to get their hands on swords. It's about a bunch of people who are exceptional taking on even more exceptional tasks. A supernaturally strong 12 year old with a sword isn't that much weirder than the magical lovechild of a devil and a human who works for a god.

>>49917835
What a strange assumption. And do all of your big boy fighters make sure to finish school before they start training?

>>49917823

But then we wouldn't have had the bro-tier prostitute rogue, the comic relief fighter who's so old that his dentures don't fit him properly any more, or a few other of what turned out to be the best characters in the game.

It's guys like OP that take away the fun in these fantasy imagination games.

So how do you make a child character work, /tg/?

You can make a child sorcerer pretty easily, but how about a child martial character? Can it be done?

>>49917944
Martial characters barely work, adult or otherwise.

>>49917944
Yes. As has been mentioned, Cu Chulainn kicked the shit out of a hound that grown ass Irish warriors were terrified of, and he did it with a ball.

Just have them be a freak.

Some anon in another thread mensioned he once played a child character who'se strength came entirely from gear (they started the game ad high enough levels that they could all get some magical items at character creation). As long as she wore her magical gauntlets, she had superhuman strength. But if she was forced to remove them she was only as strong as you'd expect from a little girl (albeit a little girl with class levels, so she'd still be able to kick the ass of the average adult even with a low strength score).

Something like that (a character who'se powers are very much tied to a specific magical item that they'd need to keep around) could be fun to play, provided the DM is not an ass and immediately destroy the item.

>>49917944

Child monk would work pretty well, and your mental stats wouldn't even suffer that much if you were in a monastery from infancy. You'd take a major hit to str, which monks couldn't give less of a fuck about, and kids debatably get a bonus instead of a penalty to dex for being smaller and more flexible than the average adult.

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>>49918185
>Some anon in another thread mensioned he once played a child character who'se strength came entirely from gear
So it's no different from an adult martial then.

>>49918218
I know you're joking, but you're right.

>>49918204
They also suck at hand-eye coordination and sometimes have trouble walking straight. CON would suffer from not being exposed to any diseases, having a poor diet, and probably from racial adjustments.

>>49918218
Haha. Good thing caster supremacy is entirely non-existent in 5e.

>>49917779
I counterspell your attempt to kick me from the game. I also cast Lvl. 1 Eroticism. You turn into a cute little girl.

>>49917709
Tell that to African warlords

>>49918299
Not entirely, but the difference is small enough that it's not a huge issue. A wizard is still more "optimal" than fighter for most situations, but you can still play a fighter and be useful, while in 3.5 you were shooting yourself in the foot.

>>49917791
Sources?

>>49918299
Casters have plenty of options in and out of battle. Martials don't have much of anything for out of battle, but at least they have some sort of variety and viability in combat.

>>49918291

I'll give you a minor con penalty just because they're small, but kids are also stupid durable compared to adults. I've seen ten year olds walk off falls that would hospitalize any of the big, tough construction workers I work with.

As for kids being clumsy, that's more a early childhood thing. The range we're talking about has perfectly fine coordination.

Also child monks already exist because of exactly all of these reasons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuEJesXNE_E

>>49918343
African warlords are monsters, not people.

>>49917643
>So magic makes it okay?
Yes.

>>49918460
Why does magic make it okay?

>>49918482
Because magic is integral part of the setting. Some people use it to shoot fireballs, some use it to reinforce and hone their bodies. D&D distinction of "mundane" and "magical" is lame.

>>49918507
So someone had enough castings of permanency and every stat buff spell available and decided to waste over a hundred thousand gold worth of castings on some dipshit kid? Not likely.

>>49918539
>still thinking in terms of standard D&D setting

it DOES give people brain damage.

>>49914503
>Average height of a 12-year-old girl is 5 feet
>Average weight of a 12-year-old girl is 93 pounds
>"shield probably weighs more than she does"

I agree, anon. I'd never let someone play a character the size of a 12-year-old girl.
>Average height of a halfling is 3 feet
>Average weight of a halfling is 30 pounds
I'd only let them play a character the size of a 3-year-old girl.

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>>49918539
>playing inferior shit settings where only wizards can do magic
>his warriors don't even become magical through rigorous training and force of will alone
fucking lel

>>49918482
Because the only thing that matters is that a settings is internally consistent.

>>49914613
>you can have a gigantic man who is actually insanely weak
You know, I don't think they expected anyone to actually use it that way

>>49917874
>What a strange assumption
Only if you've never dealt with real children. In case you haven't, they're astonishingly thick.

>>49917643
Answer me this question, faggot.

What is the maximum strength score you would allow a halfling, dwarf, human and goliath to have?

>>49918389

Wow stop culture shaming you racist

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>>49918482
because through Aslan all things are possible

>>49917799
>everyone else on at the table looks pissed off at you
>"Come on dude, we were just getting started. Now we have to wait for Anon to reroll his character."
>"Yeah, not cool man. Why the fuck do you do this at the start of every campaign? Can't we just play?"

>>49918657
>implying Anon actually plays any games at all and isn't just stomping his feet over total strangers on an anonymous image board liking things he doesn't like.

You give him far more credit than I do.

>>49918657

>Stopping play because the slutty furry played by the 300 lb neckbeard autist died

He can reroll and jump in later, when there's an opening for it. If you want to take a risk with a character concept and don't have to chops to make it not awful, sitting out for a couple of hours is what happens. He could have just rolled up another character that wasn't aids, but if you insist that it's not going to be that bad and it is, you were warned.

>>49917691
It's Celtic mythology, you blithering idiot.

>>49918577
That raises a serious question.

Why aren't halflings knocked around when they're hit or when they parry an attack?

>>49918539
Yeah, or the kid is just inherently magical or a demigod or whatever. Use a little bit of imagination, fuckwit.

>>49918873
>>Stopping play because the slutty furry played by the 300 lb neckbeard autist died
Wow. Is that what children are like to you?

You just compared playing a child character with blatant fetish material. I guess you're too fucked in the head from anime porn to even function, since you see it everywhere. Are you so in denial of your neckbearded fetishes that you can't play anything other than plain medieval earth with elves and dragons without triggering yourself? Can't you just hide your boner and carry on?

Child heroes are an ultra common trope both in mythology and modern cinema, but you're too much of a faggot to even fall in line with popular culture.

>>49917906
>medieval standards
>not considering a 13 year old practically an adult

>>49918929
Why aren't halflings knocked around when they're hit or when they parry an attack?

The earth loves the people that are closer to it, so it holds them a little more tightly.

>>49918979
I'll accept that answer

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>>49914503
Even the "adult" characters in the game could be interpreted as very young. The shield lady here is supposed to be ~27 years old. EO's style is just like that consistently.

>>49918929

The context of when I off characters was a "naked five year old loli with a giant fat dick she uses as a sword is okay because magic."

I'm actually pretty okay with child characters as long as they're not sexualized or gore bait or anything creepy like that.

>>49918929
>Why aren't halflings knocked around when they're hit or when they parry an attack?
Same reason a human isn't smashed across the room when parrying an attack from a giant or a dragon. DnD isn't in any way an accurate or realistic simulation of physics.

>>49919076
>>Same reason a human isn't smashed across the room when parrying an attack from a giant or a dragon
Actually that would make fights a bit more dynamic

>>49918987
So does that mean the Earth loves the lil' chillins'?

>>49919076
Amusingly, the last dragon I used in my campaign had knockback as part of some of its attacks.

>>49914503
>filename
No need to false flag your waifu, anon

>>49914503
I'd probably have my character take that attitude at first. Then, when she turns out surprisingly competent in a fight, my character will probably assume she's not human, or maybe heavily enchanted.

>>49917799
Five minutes will be the middle of your campaign if you're such a passive aggressive faggot.

>>49917716
Variety is nice. It's RP, so why would you need a reason to play ANYTHING beyond "I felt like giving this concept a try"?

>>49919076
>>49919084
>>49919157

One of my house rules for my D&D games is that if you're a size larger or greater, you get a free bullrush/shove attack against the target if they successfully hit with a melee attack.

Helps make large creatures actually feel large.

>>49918539
>Not likely.
I'd definitely do that to my kid if I was a powerful wizard. I'd rather my family be safe and be capable of fending for itself in a world full of murderous mythical bullshit.

>>49918364
>Martials don't have much of anything for out of battle
A physically fit body and a bit of creativity can go a long way even without magic or class-based perks.

>>49919345
Magic goes even further with creativity.

My group has at least one loli character in every game.
Stay mad /tg/

>>49919313
This is already a feat: Mighty Blow

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>>49918185
>Battle Chasers

>>49919431
Goddamnit it Anon, that is absolutely ok and there is nothing wrong with loli characters as long as the player isn't going "POMF! what are we gonna do on the bed?"

>>49919493
Nothing like that yet but... one of the players in a campaign plays a noble lady with an obsession for "collecting" little girls.

>>49919411
Not if you treat it like magic instead of hand wavey physics manipulation.

The spell does what it says it does or it fizzles. Meteor swarm strikes the targeted area and absolutely nothing past it. Haste makes you faster, but does add any momentum to your charges to give them bonuses.

>>49919519
You're retarded.

>>49919431
I've played Nechronica

>>49919526
You're retarded.

>>49919518
Hey now, she's merely assembling a royal entourage! It's not her fault the only people who take her seriously are thirsty lolis

>>49919526
>baaaaaw why won't people let me break the game by abusing spells

>>49914503
>Is it possible to take a character like this seriously?
no
> How would anyone at the table not bust out laughing?
If they value their friend's feeling and believe calling out his shitty character design might hurt his feelings more than be constructive then they are likely to muster-up all their strength to keep a strait face and just go with it.

How is it that most of /tg/ is baffled by the idea of weebs playing RPGs together?

>>49919577
>abusing spells
Even if you allow only for specific uses of spells, they can still be used creatively. Even if they're not used creatively, they still do a lot more than fighters out of combat.

>>49919596
>Strait

>>49919596

You know you need to be 18 or older to post here, right?

>>49919607
Maybe they believe that weebs are some group of weird outcasts when in fact the vast majority of nerds have weeby tendencies to some extent or another and actually westaboos are far rarer.

>>49919623
You mean you wouldn't keep Gibralter's Strait if it meant not ruining the session for everyone?

>>49917716
Why do they need to be anything?

>>49919596
Not everyone's a fat autist that REEEEEEs REEEEEEalism in his game of pretend so he can better escape into a life where he and his friends are big tough men and not pathetic nerds, anon

>>49919642
It's possible I guess. The way /tg/ talks it's like everyone around the has a steel bar up their ass. It's like they hate fun in role playing **games**

>>49918539
I mean get a random orphan,buff him up, you now have an apprentice that is strong as fuck, can get the things you need by itself while you do you, but you know, actually trying to be creative and not just brushing ideas off is kinda hard.

>>49919669
>not playing as big tough nerds
>not playing as big pathetic men

>>49919607
A lot of people on /tg/ are ashamed of the fact that they're actually nerds and have this false notion of preserving the "purity" and "legitimacy" of the hobby by pretending that weebs are somehow the lowest common denominator.

>>49919690
>/tg/ are ashamed of the fact that they're actually nerds
There's honestly nothing sadder and more pathetic than someone ashamed of what they enjoy.
I mean it makes sense as well. Anti-weebs love shaming tactics and shit but it's like. Sure I like cute anime girls why am I suppsoed to feel bad for that?

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>>49919607
Buncha faggots on this board who don't even play tabletop is what.

>>49919607
>How is it that most of /tg/ is baffled by the idea of weebs playing RPGs together?
Because they're a subgroup of a group of people, and just as every group of people wants to believe they're the best group of people, every subgroup must believe they're the best subgroup.

They shit on weebs because the alternative is admitting that you might just be regular, not exceptional... and modern society is built by (wo)man-children with no capacity for self criticality.

>>49919730
>and just as every group of people wants to believe they're the best group of people, every subgroup must believe they're the best subgroup.
That a strange and interesting way of looking at things anon.

>>49919607
>Most of /tg/
>Not just one or two guys who live in their basement and spend all their time circlejerking all day on the internet.

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>>49919768
>Not just one or two guys who live in their basement and spend all their time circlejerking all day on the internet.
>Not most people on /tg/
Wait then who are all of you people?

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It depends on the setting. Questions like this always depend on the setting. In some things, far more absurd things are expected to be taken seriously.

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>>49914503
Cuteness is justice.
Justice PROTECTS.

>>49919678
By gross generalization you should already know that the loudest people on tg think that it's not about having fun it's about mocking others about how they are having it.


>playing anything other than grimdark angry murderhobo nº1353 then bashing others who don't.

If there is a way or better yet you manage to find one out by learning about the setting and mechanics of the game then it's fine.

Those who say that it can't be taken seriously maybe it's more about how mature of a person you are than about the concept if you see a child soldier and you think that it's magical realm stuff automatically maybe the mirror is just a little foggy?

>>49919888
You're being just as retarded as the nay-sayers.

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>>49919914
This guy gets it. We have to be as bad as the naysayers to fight them off.

>>49919897
>loudest people on tg think that it's not about having fun it's about mocking others about how they are having it.
It's fair to say that applies to most of 4chan really.

>If there is a way or better yet you manage to find one out by learning about the setting and mechanics of the game then it's fine.
Yeah, really there's an aversion to strange characters on a greater level here.
Which is sad making a weird character and fleshing them out is a lot of fun.

>and you think that it's magical realm stuff automatically maybe the mirror is just a little foggy?
The revolution of magical realm itself is weird here as well. Like a terminal fear that somebody might be attracted to a character or anything in a game is some horrific concept.
The masturbating at the table meme is even more bizarre. There's a separation between titillation and sexual content without just being porn and wanking.

>>49914599
Damn it Sergei, tank was not designed to be driven by someone who is 4'3".

>>49914503
Why not just give the kid a gun?
Even a large battle rifle is easily usable by a child if they can brace it on something, and modern AR-15s can be built weighing under 5lbs.

>>49919982
That is why I strap tank manual to bottom of boots.

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>>49917944

>>49919518
How does the GM feel about that?

>>49914503
loli magic.

>>49920454
He enjoys it alot and has made many lewd lolis.

>>49914563
I only know we were all inside little girl when we were in chechenia, Vasili! That was good time, it almost paid for daily beating of drill.

>>49919982
Actually, tank crew is prefered to be made of manlets.

Does playing as a 3'4" ratfolk necromancer count?

>>49920454
He is playing one of the lolis

>>49914503
>shield probably ways more than she does
A 12 year old girl of slim build probably weighs like 30kg, what kind of fuckhuge shield are you using?

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>>49914503
Who is this semen deamon?

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I like creepy kids though

>>49921537
Fortress class from Etrian Odyssey 4

>>49921474
Yeah, that's actually a good point.

If she can use that shield, she's obviously some kind of superhuman and i'm not gonna question her combat efficiency.

>player turns up with a 12 year old half-giant
>the same size as an adult man but stronger
>still looks like a 12 year old
Do you allow it?

>>49921542
They're only good if they're chuuni as fuck and easily bullied

>>49920564
>>49920923
God, you fucks are creepy.

I hope someone castrate you fir the sake of mankind

>>49920129
I still can't reach all the controls with tiny adorable arms, Sergei!

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>>49923290
Somebodies jealous.

>>49918389
racist pig

>>49923713
>I recognize that smug
>notice .gif
>wait, what?
Oh boy, oh boy...

>>49923777
Vampire > Demon

>>49923777
>I recognize that smug

sauce?

>>49923841
Yupiel-sama no Geboku.

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>>49923788
>implying

>>49914503
>Has immovable rods in the shield
>Sets it and locks it

>>49923894
That was disappointingly short.

Have to say, though, it manages to have the highest smug-to-page ratio i've ever seen.

8/10 would read again.

>>49924067
Unless the entire shield is immovable, that's not gonna last long before the rod forcibly detaches from the shield.

>>49924176
Make them inside the shield or sovereign glue them to it.

>>49924199
That's only going to mean the detaching destroys the shield in the process. Unless the whole shield goes immobile, the nonimmobile parts are gonna warp until they snap free.

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>>49914503
>Best Etrian
>Not Cocaine Fortress

>>49924232
.... Are you saying the shield has to be indestructible now?

Because I'm just stating that using magic there are ways that you could have a shield be used by someone.

>>49924283
>.... Are you saying the shield has to be indestructible now?

Go take a good sturdy ruler, find a solid post/beam of some sort, and duct tape the ruler to it sideways so the ends are going over the sides. Then start whacking on the parts of the ruler that aren't covered in tape and watch what the taped part does.

That is what is gonna happen with your strap an immovable rod to a shield idea. wherever and however you put them together, it's gonna stress the fuck out of the materials, whatever part is weakest is gonna start warping until something gives entirely.

To say nothing of the fact that strapping an immovable something to your arm is a terrible idea in combat.

>>49917779
You sound like a true joy to play with. You must have people lining up for a chance to play with you.

>>49924514
Okay, so we know that a ruler is going to bend.
What's the point of that? Yes the shield will bend and flex with impacts. Metal is quite robust.

And you don't have to strap it to the shield, you could easily put it inside the shield.

And I NEVER said putting it on your arm. You could literally place it wherever.

Besides, even if it was strapped to your arm, you can turn it on and off again.

>>49924663
>What's the point of that?
The point of that is that you can beat on a loose ruler or a ruler that is fully strapped to a solid object all day and nothing will happen to it, but strap only half of it to something solid and you're liable to snap it in half because that kinetic energy has to go somewhere and you've robbed it of the ability to simply transfer the energy into motion.

So guess what happens to a metal shield when suddenly it has a rod-shaped solid object for it to not move against? Combat grade metal is a fair bit sturdier than a ruler, but having to take the energy from a blow all at once because you've removed the ability for motion to extend the time of impact is gonna be hell on every part of the thing that isn't a single solid slab of metal. It's not gonna break right away, but it's gonna do it a hell of a lot sooner than a shield that you aren't trying to fuck with in a halfassed attempt to be clever with an immovable rod.

>>49924243
Smug Fortress is better

>>49923713
Who wouldn't be jealous of a Pedojou-sama drowning in lolis?

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>>49919982

We will find ways comrade.

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>>49924843
So, the non metal parts of this shield are going to break from a single blow, rendering the shield useless?

Such a shame that shields are made where they can't be hit more then once.

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>>49924998
Read the first 6 words of the last sentence of the post you quoted and try again. Also your post assumes that metal is somehow impervious to the ravages of physics, I suggest you educate yourself on metal fatigue.

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>>49925045
You're claiming that it would be useless. I'm saying it would be useful to have a shield able to withstand blows that a character couldn't brace themselves to fend off.

Metal fatigue wouldn't destroy a shield after a few hits.

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>>49925077
Heard you were talking shit

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>>49925110
Nope.

best runemaster.

>>49924243
>>49925077
>>49925110
Tiny baby feet

>>49914503
>OP sucks massive nigger cocks again

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>>49925095
I am specifically calling out the 'lets take an immovable rod and build a shield around it' as useless, because it fucking is. You want a shield that won't budge when it gets hit, enchant the shield directly, don't fuck around strapping unrelated magic items to it in an attempt to be tacticool.

>>49925361
Which enchantment prevents a shield from moving?
Adding a magic item to something is now "tacticool"?
Do you not let martials slap magic items together to gain magical abilities?
Why do you hate fun?

>>49925438
>Adding a magic item to something is now "tacticool"?
Given the action economy on the IR, this case is very much tacticool.

>"I use my move action to activate the immovable rod I strapped to my shield!"
>"Ok. Your enemy notices that your shield stopped moving and repositions so your shield is no longer in his way, take an additional penalty to your AC because you've got your arm strapped to something immobile."

>>49925496
>I quickdraw my shield
>I say the command word
>I drop my shield
All of those are free actions.
Bear in mind you can also drop items into adjacent squares.

>>49914606
That's how you know your campaign is getting good.

>>49925602
>>I say the command word
But the immovable rod is button-operated, anon.

>>49925630
It can also be created to function off of command words, anon.

In fact, separate words for activation and deactivation.

>>49925602
>>49925630
and while I'm at it,
>>I quickdraw my shield
readying a shield is a separate action from drawing a weapon, quickdraw does not apply.

>>I drop my shield
You can't free action drop a shield you are using. Carrying yes, using and benefiting from no.

And to stave off the obvious next step
>>B-but if it's hanging between us it provides cover
At melee ranges, only walls provide cover.

>>49925708
So now we've gone from it not being able to withstand any attacks to it not functioning in a specific system?

Not even the original anon, but this is some serious goalpost moving.

>>49925766
>assuming the system that the rod originated from is goalpost moving

That being said I've never cared to look of any other systems decided to throw one --*CLANG*

>>49917065
Those are all grade 3+ spells that a starting character wouldn't be able to cast, and require thousands of GP to make permanent. I expect one hell of a backstory that promises to bite you in the ass later. You don't get something for nothing.
Also, since it's magical, it's going to be affected by Dispel Magic and Anti-Magic Field, and shine like a beacon to magic-sensing creatures.

>>49925672
>wanting your custom job item to operate off the absolute least secure activation method.
Enjoy every enemy with half a brain saying the command word for 'please lock my shield in place so I can't block your attack' after you use your gimmick.