What sounds more fun to you: A campaign with the overall objective

>>49907303
Whichever campaign lands me in an afterlife that's basically a giant office where I'm an intern to sexually frustrated office ladies.

In other words Chinese heaven

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>>49907324
I laughed.

Depends on the setting. Or more precisely, the world. Some are worth saving. Some are better put out of their misery.

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What if the only way to save the world is to destroy it?

To save the world. Destroying the world is surprisingly easy if you have the right magic item. Just get something that lets you be immune to level drain and access to teleport X/day items.
>Drop 3 wights in some bumfuck farming village of 100 at midnight.
>Come morning you now have 103 wights who spread throughout the nearby land.
>Teleport like 5 wights each to 5 different villages on the borders of the continent.
>Then teleport as many as you can to the slums of the nearest population center.
>Randomly teleport into fortified locations to release a few more wights right next to crowds of civilians.
>Repeat as needed until there are too many wights to be stopped.

Why would you destroy the world? You're going to die along with it.

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>>49907588

>>49907365
>That pose
CIA?

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>>49907755
Guess again!

>>49907755
>Ich bin Gestapo.

>>49907755
Crashing this Reich...

>>49907303
A campaign with the overall objective to steal the world.

>>49907795
A campaign with the overall objective to steal our hearts.

>>49907825
Physically, without us noticing.

>>49907303

Why save the world when it s full of rape, torture and suffering?

Why not just put an end to it all so no-one can ever suffer again?

The only reason to let this world live is so that we can expand into the rest of the universe and kill whatever lives out there.

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>>49907834
I have just the lady for the job.

>>49907303
>A campaign with the overall objective to save the world?
Classic cliche but fine

>Or a campaign with the overall objective to destroy it?
Why? That's the dumbest antagonist motivation.
>But, that's where I keep all my stuff!

Saving is always more challenging than destroying.
Challenge is more fun.
So there you go.

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>>49907303
A campaign with the overall objective to shave the world!

A campaign with the overall objective to brave the world.

>>49907303
Both saving the world and destroying the world are weird, unimaginably huge goals.

Stick with something on a scale your players, normal humans, feel an affinity with.

>>49907951
This, I prefer my campaigns to be a lot smaller and more localized in scale, particularly if they're fantasy.

Save a city, at most. Prevent a war. Provoke a war. Kill some important dudes. That kind of thing.

>>49907303
The former. I tend to play paladins and the like, though I guess it'd also be fun to be twisted to evil if the GM did it right.

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>>49907303
>No option to rule the world.

A evil purge campaign does sound like a bit of fun. Plus it can be difficult when there's a lot of people that disagree with your viewpoints.

>Save the world
>Destroy it

Shit man, why does the campaign always have to be about saving the world? Why can't I stop a war, or unite a quarrelling people?

>>49908200
So, a cleric is just a guy who believes in a god?

Because what you have described could be done by most classes. And creating poisons isn't something I'd have the cleric do

>>49907303
I always like saving the world.
I don't get a kick out of destruction.
I LOVE being the Hero.

A campaign where I get smothered by thicc horned women.

>>49908020
It's generally assumed that everybody wants to rule the world.
>>49907755
Lotta loyalty for a Jew.

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>>49907861
You must be fun at parties.

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>>49907882
>Liking the worst soulsborne girl

>>49909696
>It's generally assumed that everybody wants to rule the world.
At least that's what Tears For Fears has taught me.

>>49907412
You're forgetting the forces of good have agency. Suppose this becomes enough of an issue that Heironeous stomps the cure to wight-ness out of Orcus, or that some goodly wizard doesn't anticipate your method of operation and come up with a counterplan.

If pulling this was so easy, why are the forces of darkness/light at an impasse in most places?

>>49909696
I used to in a campaign, it was so sick. Had ocean powers to make the tide rise, but fell pretty hard, I now work as a street sweeper in what was MY city.

>>49907303
I guess I could have fun playing some form of cultist/warlock with the aim of summoning cthulhu or Shub-Niggurath

but I'm going to have to vote save

>>49907412
till sir Christoph the Bold kills one of the 3 starting wights, rendering all the wights it's spawned no longer enslaved.

It's only as easy as the DM makes it

>>49907303

Save. Just once, I'd like to be the good guy again.

>>49909670
Ok, but they only have one 'horn' each. It is very thicc and located on their groin and they are eager to smother you with it.

>>49909836
>If pulling this was so easy, why are the forces of darkness/light at an impasse in most places?
Because the math in D&D is pretty fundamentally broken. So the answer to your question is the same as "why hasn't some asshole wizard broken the economy with any one of a hundred spells?" and "how the fuck does anyone survive to adulthood when your average adult has less than 50% odds of ever making a save vs. disease?" They just do (or don't) because the author says so.

>>49910190
That could easily be solved by making a statue or some other public permanent object enchanted with a trap that activates on touch to cast cure disease on the toucher.

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>>49907303

Correct Answer is BOTH.

>save the world
>by destroying the world that wishes to destroy your own
>first half of the campaign is thwarting a plan to end your world
>second half of the campaign is crossing over to the enemy world and becoming the bbeg who is gonna destroy theirs while the former BBEG of the first half tries to thwart your dastardly schemes

>>49911141
>That moment when you're playing 4E and your epic level psion is currently at war with literally all the gods because his end goal is to essentially implode with psionic power, essentially erasing his very being and over time being forgotten by literally everyone, in order to create a new universe that he's the Over-God of.

They're just salty that I didn't ask them to be part of my pantheon.

>>49910149
I want out of your magical realm.

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>>49910190
>why hasn't some asshole wizard broken the economy with any one of a hundred spells?"

1) Wizards don't organise into vast empires that spread economic systems until they become intertwined across an entire world
2) empires that do spread like that have the means to fuck wizards who might do that shit up
3) The Economanticores from beyond space and time are attracted to magical economical fuckery and eat any wizard low level enough to do that shit by accident
4) The Anthropic Principle means that adventures only coincidentally take place in areas that haven't been fucked by wizardly hyperinflation.

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How about a setting where outside forces are simultaneously trying to destroy AND save the world, but the players have something entirely different and much more important to take care of. Like getting next month's rent for their landlord after wasting their money on expensive brew and cheap women.

>>49911211
5) The wizards have a secret deal to not do that, because it's in their best interest not too, and have specialist diviners tasks to keep an eye on local economies for any unexpected changes.

>>49911220
It's at this point that the players realized that while bob told them all to make pathfinder characters, they would actually spend the next few hours playing a really low-tech version of shadowrun

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Demon business women

>>49909789
I don't want to rule the world, waaaay to much work.

>>49911503
Welcome to your life, there's no turning back.

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>>49910149
Oh my.

>>49911326
My inquisitor searches the couch pillows for loose change.
Do I roll luck or spot check?

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>>49909768
>puffy vulva
>negative in any way

>>49907303
Honestly, I'm a huge fan of evil campaigns with protagonist parties that are basically just affable punch-clock villains.

Like the minions from Overlord or something.

>>49907755
Stalin's a big guy

>>49907303

save the world. destroying it is way easier.

>>49911419
I never knew how much I wanted this

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>>49911569
Then let us see how long the world can hold it's breath, for that is precisely how long my rule will last.

>>49907303
Play as a necromancer trying to kill the gods and raise them as his slaves

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I like campaigns when you fight for the good side for months before the tweest that reveals the BBEG might have been right all along. Call me a sucker, but shit can be fun as hell with a good GM.

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>>49911584
That depends on whether or not you're gonna edge the roll.

Do you want your d20s to explode?

>>49907303

One where the PCs become gods and make a new world with magic.

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>>49907755
nice double dubs

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>>49907303
Save.

Alternatively:
A campaign with the overall objective of conqouring the world.

>>49907303
>What sounds more fun
>save the world
>destroy it

Neither. I'm so sick of the world being at stake, I'd like to just do something small time and simple for once.

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>>49907303
>MFW you recognize the artist
>MFW they worked on Drowtales

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>>49911419
>tfw you will never an exec in a potion company with a qt demon girl receptionist

>>49907303
Save it, overall. I mean, there's absolutely no point in destroying the world. After all, if you destroy the world, you're kinda dead too... unless you have some way to then remake it how you want. Hmm...

The bigger the scale the more the game devolves into a philosophical debate, and it's either a circlejerk or people will get upset because of disagreements, some of which are perceived as GM railroading.

However, if the scale is sufficiently small, your players become invested because they live a life of similar scope, and can relate to what's going on.

A Tiefling looking for his outsider ancestor out of filial curiosity. If you can imagine outsiders being people then it can be quite interesting. Same scenario for Dragon Disciples.

A Necromancer working on medical equipment that enhances regeneration using the ambient life force present. Works as a post-mortem therapist for both living and dead.

Fighter settles down, becomes a blacksmith, but old habits die hard and he still helps police the town.

A Cleric looking for all the folk tales about his deity, partially to find out which are true and to what extent, partially to give the finalised book to his god for nostalgia and giggles.

Druid, bored of saving villagers of poisonous plants, organises a training course for recognising natural hazards. Things get out of hand and the village becomes a mix of rangers, druids, and alchemists, plus a wide range of jobs that support their work. Druid is now the mayor by popular demand. He just wings it.

>>49911631
> Stalin's a big guy
> 5'5"

Yeah, no--

>Sees KGB agent

I mean, "Yeah, go Stalin! Stalin's the best! We love Stalin!"

i dm a save the world scenario, but the world is only the region they are in. i already offered them an exodus scenario (the dwarves dug too deep as usual, and found a slippery highway down there), they can take it any time they wish. they don't wish it yet.

>>49907303
Why not destroy the world to create a better one in its place?

>>49909869
Coldplay pls.

>>49909725
I don't go to parties.
I get my human interaction fix off this board.

save it then destroy it myself muahahahahaha

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>>49911419
Demon Business Men?

>>49911300
>>49911283
>>49911268
>>49911258
>>49911230
>>49911211
>>49907303

reminder that only males grow horns like those

>>49919568
Not in cows. They have or don't have the full sized horns of their breed entirely because of genetics, not sex.

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>>49915293
>Not wanting a thicc demon girl as your direct superior

>>49919671
Can I have both?

>>49919671
>She teases you constantly at work, sometimes bordering on full-on sexual harassment, but you don't mind.
>Everyone assumes she's into BDSM or that kind of stuff because of how dominant she is at work.
>Start to get used to the teasing and even consider it as normal and aren't phased by it anymore.
>She eventually gets more comfortable with you and started inviting you out for drinks and the like.
>She finally invites you over to her place for the first time and, like everyone else, assumes she's a dom or some shit.
>Turns out she just wants someone she can be 'normal' and comfortable around when at home, and not have to feel like she's in charge and is in fact, very vanilla.
>Spend your evening cuddling and doing other various lewd thing.

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>>49919729

If the world is the modern day world that is inhabited with faggots, niggers, and Jews, then I want to destroy it.

If it's just another fantasy or sci-fi world where every species is clearly defined in their behavior and know their respective places (even Star Trek is okay), then I would try to save whatever planet I am tasked to.

>>49907303
It's not important since the fun is on the journey, not the destination. As cliche as it sounds, it's the truth.

That said, saving the world may be more motivating if you managed to make the players give a fuck about it and the people that lives there. On the other hand, the players most likely have already played a lot of "save X place" games and will find "destroy the world" to be more original.

>>49907588
Who says so? Maybe you're an immaterial creature and only your physical mortal host will perish, while you will return home to chill.

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>>49919568

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>>49907303

What kind of metahuman variant is this? it looks like a human but it has troll horns without any of the dermal armor or tusks and isn't huge enough.

maybe its a SURGE creation or just a human who had horns surgically added?

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>>49907588
nice dubs

>Why would you destroy the world? You're going to die along with it.

Not if you are sacrificing most of the population in a magic ritual to re-arrange the planet's material into a fleet of generation ships that you command with the goal of colonizing other worlds

>>49923597
>niggers and jews are why I still live in my mom's house... yeah, that's why

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>>49914552
>mfw I don't care what they worked on so much as the quality of their art

>>49907303
My opinion us this: If the world is full of evil, and violence is wide spread, there is only one option.

Beat the world so hard, till it stops being fucking evil. It will either learn to play nice, or get another whopping like a red headed step child. If there is only one thing in the world that people fear, and that one thing is you, than peace is soon to follow.

>>49914552
But drowtales was hot even if it had way to many words

>>49924713
And what happens when you are gone? Slain by the claws of beasts, the arms of men, or the endless march of time?

Fear can only restrain a thing so long as the object of its fear is present. The moment the shadow lifts from over it, it will revert to its normal behavior.

If you rule by fear, you must make yourself indestructible - lest the end of your reign be glorious in its indignity.

>>49907951
>unimaginably huge
4 U

>>49924883
>drowtales
It should just have been porn.

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>>49927288
I agree. Although I remember one of the writers got severely asspained about that during a "vote for what they do next" story in which everyone voted for "they fuck". They probably would have gotten a lot more fans if they just embraced that, and probably could have sold something if they just went the straight up porn route.

>>49927288
Isn't there that other part that is porn? Daydream or something?

>>49907919
Underrated as fuck

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>>49907588
You are immortal, alive since the gods created the world. You have come to hate this world. You have come to hate existing. You just want to die.

Perhaps by destroying the world, you can find your release.

>>49919729
H-how lewd are we talking? Does she go as far as wanting to hold hands?

>>49928081
We're talking full head in her lap ear cleaning.