So you think your party's hot shit, eh? Well /tg/, what

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>>49886949
Yeah.

>>49886949
We'd be able to see it easy and shoot it, sounds fucking shit constantly being forced to HAVE THAT HIGH GROUND

>>49886991
The very idea that high ground is worth anything is a complete lie made up by 1920s pulp novels. Everyone knows that being in a pit is the best way to fight. After all, you carry your weapon with your upper arms and aim with your head. If those can draw a line to your enemy, then you're good. And if your enemy is above you, he can't bring his weapons to bear as easily. And at range, you can get his head before he can get yours.

>>49886949
but does it believe the jedi are evil

>>49886949
dunno, but i recognize that artist and fear for my balls.

>>49887086
>>49886991
>gee it sure is nice and comfy down here in this hole that makes the enemies explosive twice as effective

>>49886949
We adjust the spatial axes so that z(creature)<z(party), and mock it.

>>49886949
The advantage is ours!

We can see your under boob.

>>49887183
Artillery doesn't care if you're in a hole or on a hill. And they can't spot you if you're in a hole.

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>>49886949
>ALWAYS had the high ground?

Traverse up!

>>49887086
High ground is strategically useful for seeing your enemy's army approach, your archers having similarly improved range, and fighting downhill is easier than pushing uphill.

Pits are better presently, though not being at the fight at all is taking the lead now.

>>49887152
Who's the artist?

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>>49886949
Let me just morph into a dire eagle and eat you.

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>>49886949
I mean, it's usually used against entire flocks, but I guess it'll do in a pinch.

>>49886949
But OP, harpies are about AIR SUPERIORITY rather than HIGH GROUND.

The point about having the high ground is because you can engage and disengage the opponent way easier, due to how your line of sight will work.
If you hold the high ground, you can break line of sight with your enemy just by taking a few steps back or crouching. You control how the confront goes. The enemy on the lower ground can move forward, move back, duck, roll, or whatever, and he won't break LoS unless there's something he can hide behind or inside of. Even if he goes right up to directly below you, you can just peek down from unexpected angles to fire at him, and immediately hide again, or better yet, just drop an explosive.

Also, in terms of pure aiming (even with melee weapons, if you're up close and personal) holding the high ground is severe advantage. If you're in greater height than your enemy, it becomes hard NOT to hit his head, shoulders or chest - and if you miss these targets, you may still hit the lower parts of the body.
Now if you're attacking from below, aiming for the head is almost a guaranteed miss, and having to look up puts you at severe disadvantage just because you may end up having to stare at the bright sky.

Trench fighting is a good substitute for holding the high ground, and it is effective, at least until the enemy gets close - since jumping into a trench is a matter of seconds, while climbing a wall or breaching into a building will take herculean effort.

Then again, trenches are more effective against artillery than high ground is, indeed.

Autism aside, if we speak about harpies... they really don't do much, unless you don't have anyone with magic or a ranged weapon in your party desu.

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>>49887591
Not that anon, just did a reverse image search and found someone called Space_Jin on e621.

>Likes insects, insect girls and ballbusting.

>>49887678
i believe it's from Yu Gi Oh

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I hope she's on the menu if you know what i mean

>>49888212
Yes its porn based on a yugioh character, thanks captain obvious.

>>49886949
From my point of view, my party always has the high ground.

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>>49887086
t. Anakin

>>49886949
>ALWAYS has the high ground
You underestimate my power!

>>49886949

well, flying enemies typically have lower con scores, meaning they have lower fort saves then usual, so... yeah, my team can take them down. We have 2 archers, a big tough guy who can throw things, a weaboo and me, the debuff specced caster. Good luck fighting from the high ground when you're fucking blind.

>>49887624
That's some dakka that is

>>49886949
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66QaJFAj3PI

>>49886949
Shoot them?

>>49886949
Doesn't that mean we can just have one heavily defensive member fly up, and the enemy has to keep rising to stay higher up? What if our member doesn't have to breathe, while the enemy runs out of oxygen higher up?

>>49890323
Or, what if you're under a roof, wouldn't it be crushed against the ceiling if a party member touches the ceiling?

>>49887086
Tell that to 18th century artillerymen

>>49886949
Think about it like this
>Obi-Wan told Anaken that it was over because "I have the high ground"
>Yet he also defeated Darth Maul years earlier by jumping out of a seemingly bottomless pit
How do we harmonize these facts? By saying George Lucas is a hack with zero short term memory? Fuck no, he's a genius. In both cases Obi-Wan has the *moral* high ground.
>Hurrdurr but why did the fight between Obi-Wan and Anaken last so long then?
Because Anaken had only just started his descent into the Dark Side of the force. As the battle against his own master, an expert in the Light Side, raged on his corruption by the Dark Side became clear. After a long fight, filled with attempts of the apprentice to kill his master, Anaken had built up so much negative karma that Obi-Wan's moral high ground had become insurmountable. At that point the battle truly was over. Regardless of the position of the two relative to eachother on the physical plane of reality, morally speaking Anaken was an ant from where Obi-Wan was standing.

So we defeat sexy harpy sluts by being pure and forcing them to surrender to the +5 Holy Paladin Dick. After having mindbroken and impregnated them, it is our holy duty to take care of cute and lovely half-harpy children. Otherwise we'd lose our moral high ground.

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>>49891669

>>49887437
They can if you're a dumbass that forgets that artillery isn't the only explosive on the battlefield while you play with this weird tiny green pineapple that fell into your pit. Maybe you'll look better without a face

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>>49891669
Alright settle your ass down and get some scholing

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>>49891740
Ready for more advanced shit? Tough luck I'm going ahdead anyway

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>>49891740
>>49891753
Hold onto your frilly pink knickers because here's more to come

>>49887670
I feel like Harpies are ineffective in most encounters not because they're necessarily poor enemies, but because the DM needs to make them use poor tactics to make the encounter fun.

If you wanted to make it a dangerous fight with RAW, give the harpies bows and have them shoot the party from range rather than close to melee. Focus fire the wizard first to take him out of the fight, then the ranger, then the cleric, then everyone else. Dangerous? Yes. Fun? Only for a party that likes a challenge.

>>49890073
Dat's A 19th century lascannon dat is.

>>49891775
>>49891753
>>49891740
There was a part 4, I think, but my filing system is like a halfling's handkerchief collection and I can't find it at all so that's all you get.

>>49891811
>Fun? Only for a party that likes a challenge.
You mean only for people that aren't total pussies. If you enter an encounter, you enter it with the intent to win. That goes for players and NPCs alike. If the enemy tries something clever, you try to counter it or undo their advantage somehow. If it's clear you cannot win, there's no shame in retreating.

Intelligent party members that don't believe the DM entitles them to victory every time will probably use a spell that makes range attacks moot, or retreat to a thick forest or a cave where the harpy's air superiority becomes worthless. The harpies will either be forced to enter terrain that's not to their advantage, or they will have to leave. Or they could try to smoke the party out, of course.

>Masks of origination party
Paladin angrily jumps up and down trying to hit it with his flails. The rest of the party laughs at him as they fire off spells

>Fae wilds expedition party
Die horribly because the rogue's shortbow is our best ranged attack.

>>49891922
...OK, you've convinced me. I'm going to try and run an encounter like that next chance I get.

>>49887678
>>49887591
I don't think it's actually his work, but Noise.

>>49886949
We all play Obi Wan Kenobi

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>>49886949
They cast magic missile.

>>49892549
Depending on how many you are that is a lot of failure potential. Do you all have apprentices?

>>49891933
>1 martial in a mage party

Poetry

>>49886949
The Warrior Summoner can fly using Ki
The Mentalist is a fucking teleporting raligun of doom
The Warlock can grow wings, just flat-out turn into a flying creature, or crank the gravity in an area up enough to crush the harpy against the ground.

We're fine.

>>49886975
Laughing_crypt_fiends.jpg

>>49892670
what spells could a wizard cast on a missile to make things more interesting?

>>49886949
That is Kaiba's face.

>>49896025
Enchant it to put out a desecrate like effect
Not while it explodes, just while it's in flight

>>49895290
Anima couldnt' give two shits about high ground, really.

>>49888869
Admittedly, Anakin fucking jumped right off of the high-ground and got chopped like a stupid bitch.

High ground works in melee combat because it's a pain the ass to fight uphill.

Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>49886949
I roll to seduce

>>49896824
She just looks down on you

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>>49896927

>>49896824
She crushed your balls in retaliation.

>>49886949
>sag hag

Still would

>>49886949
Alright, I'm going to need the artist name and know if there's a h version of this.

>>49897136
As >>49887678 said, it's Space Jin, and if there's a H version it probably involves ballbusting. Lots and lots of ballbusting.

>>49886949
Fred Perry is still drawing huh? Guy's a machine.

>>49886949
High ground against ranged attackers is only useful if you've got cover. Harpies in the sky don't have cover.

>>49897078

That is literally the best kind of sag you could hope for with huge breasts, anon.

In fact I'd say the sag makes them better than if they were super perky.

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>>49897263
patrician

>>49897263
Spoken like an experienced whoremonger desu.

>>49886949
Damn

>>49887086

Holy fuck.
I know you can have an opinion but holy shit.
Shooting at a hill far away puts you at a direct disadvantage

Jesus fuck you are pretentious as shit

>>49897014
source?

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>>49886949
Rolling for seduction, adding Cha bonus of 2

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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>49886949
I will seduce it so that my genes will have a place in the new world order. My APP is 76

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>>49898170
>>49898207

Looks like that bird's gonna get spitroasted tonight.

>>49897048
>She dives like a falcon at 200 mph
>You're balls aren't so much crushed as obliterated
>She was going to do it anyway if you passed, but she'd at least let you cop a feel first

>>49898233
False. BRP is roll under. My advances fail, and the harpy takes my foot.

>>49896927
underrated post

>>49896252
Technically you'd get a Superior Elevation bonus from flying, but it's a piddly +10 to attack/def rolls.
Fuck's sake, popping a Fatigue gives you a +15.

Now surprise rolls...

>>49886949
>You know, back on Old Earth there was a species called the Carrier Pigeon.

>>49894969
We had a crossbow fighter, but he was ripped in half by a demon last session. I don't know what the guy is rerolling as.

>>49891737
Trenches and foxholes have slots near your feet for you to stuff grenades into should someone manage to throw one in. You kick it in the slot and then brace yourself against the walls so the grenade has no direct line toward you other than through like 3 or 4 feet of dirt. Sure the explosion will ring your bell but you'll live.

People dig holes in war for protection against artilliary and other explosives primarily.

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>>49897761
Yupiel-sama

>>49902321
Source?

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>>49886949
>not knowing that the high ground is from a certain point of view.

A properly trained Jedi would rip their shit into a thousand pieces.

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>>49902956

H-Hayai!

>>49902990

NANI?!

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>>49902910
No idea on the artist, but dragon's dogma aka fashion's dogma aka my waifu>husbando the argument starter for the inspiration.

>>49898000
Trips confirm. Boobs are marvelous.

>>49902321
This comic makes me wonder every single time who the fuck keeps Rook until the point where you're fighting ogres and harpies at the same time.

>>49902910
Looks like BluntKatana's style

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>>49902990

Didn't Mythbusters do a whole episode on this "high grounds" bullshit?

>>49905061

H-HE'S FAST

>>49905114
No, that is the work of an enemy stand

>>49905090
Yes, but they neglected to take into account the leap.

Protip: between two people of equal skill, the high ground gives no notable advantage or disadvantage because you expose one enemy to more fatal blows while the other enemy is exposed to blows that impair mobility (and therefore are equally fatal). (This was also proven by Mythbusters)

>>49906445
Maou-sama is such a cutie! I want to push her head against my chest and stroke her hair while hearing out her ideas on reducing violent crime through economic reforms.

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>>49887183
>He doesn't know about grenade sumps

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>>49886949
I will shoot it with my gun!

>>49907558
We can't know everything allthe time, anon

>>49886949
I'd be pretty fucking impressed, as they fight in space a lot, and "height" is kinda relative there.

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>>49911286
Nice bump. This thread seems to be very important to you.