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Chaos is always shilled as such terror to behold yet it boils

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Chaos is always shilled as such terror to behold yet it boils down to a bunch of slightly deformed spergs. Big fucking deal just use artillery and shell them what is IG so afraid of? They are literally just fighting less mentally stable humans. Now if they bring daemons that's another story but how often does that happen? I think Chaos is overrated it would be way worse to fight Dark Eldar, Necrons or Nids.
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>>49872581
They are fighting less mentally stable space marines. Those are scary.
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>Yet as horrific as their wanton violence is, as gut-wrenching as their genocidal purges are -- there is something else about the Crimson Slaughter that makes them more terrifying than the other myriad threats that stalk this brutal era. Strange things happen when the Crimson Slaughter arrive for battle. Unnatural, awful things that hardly bear description. Phantasmal spirits manifest out of shadows and premonitions of doom coalesce so thickly they hang like haze upon the air. The skies bleed, walls melt and the innocent contort and wrack their bodies into baleful angles while they howl to the heavens with the voices of the damned. Even mutes will plead for swift and merciful death, screaming out in languages they never knew.

-Crimson Slaughter

Sounds like a fun time.
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>Badscragg gawped at the carnage in the valley below. The Orks had been advancing on a miners’ town, expecting a few scared humies to stomp. As they drew near to the settlement, the greenskins had slowed at the sight of mounds of mangled corpses. Moments later, howling bloody murder, a horde of red-armoured Chaos boyz had come charging out to attack. The greenskins had roared their approval of a proper battle. However, it had soon become apparent that it was possible to have too much of a good thing. A snaggletoothed old Loota, Badscragg reckoned he’d more or less seen it all. But he’d never witnessed carnage like this. The Chaos boyz weren’t just killing the Orks, they were ripping them to bits. Ork throats were torn out by jagged fangs, the gushing blood drunk down in great draughts. Lashing tentacles tore off greenskin limbs and stuffed them into gaping maws. Skin was flayed, bones broken, and Ork guts ripped out by the fistful. Zog this, thought Badscragg, beginning to sidle slowly away from the fight. Even Orks had their limits, and this surpassed his. Suddenly, the Loota was plunged into shadow, choking on the reeking stink of sulphur. Badscragg looked up in sudden horror as something truly monstrous descended upon him, and then everything turned to blood and pain.

-From Codex "Daemonkin"

Even Orks are not as hardcore or as violent. The violence the hordes of Chaos are capable of turns off even the Orks.

Greenskins confirmed cowards.
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>>49872607
That's exclusive to Crimson Slaugher other warbands are fucking boring and nothing aside from regular maniacal laughs and murder happens.
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>Get captured alive.
>Expect to get raped and tortured to death.
>You aren't that lucky.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Daemonculaba
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>>49872629
Nope, other warbands have theor own brand of abilities such as the daemonkin warbands of Khorne.
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>166.M40 IMMORTALITY’S PRICE

>The Skullsworn fall upon the hive world of Rebas. They are opposed by over one hundred regiments of Astra Militarum, each well dug in and supplied. The war that follows is horrific in its intensity and bloodshed, but after the slaughter of eighty-eight of the defenders’ regiments, the eight surviving Skullsworn ascend to become Daemon Princes simultaneously. Soon enough, nothing remains on Rebas but mountains of skulls.
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>>49872581
You know why fighting chaos sucks?
They could be like you, a loyal servant of the emporor.
You could be like them, a depraved lunatic and murderer.
Your friends, your family, they could fall.

Aliens are aliens, that shit is like fighting tougher lions. Daemons are creepy because they are made of evil and are not of this world - but the fucking chaos soldiers out there - they are worse. Much much worse.
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>>49872798
They couldn't be like me because I joined Tau.
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>>49872607
That sounds like a daemonic incursion without the daemons
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>>49872901
Hah, when they released the new tau novel you are going to be surprised. It is hinted "subtly" that the tau are chaos pawns.
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It's the smell.
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>>49872581
>>49872629

Pretty much >>49872650 this. Terrible unnatural things happen every time a devouted warband goes to battle, Read the Word Bearers trilogy about their invasion on Tenakreg, you will get your taste of a typical hell made manifest the mortals have to face when facing Chaos Marines.

Also, when fighting DEldar, Necrons, Nids or pretty much anything else, you get horrible, painful death (DEldar, Nids), or messy but quick end (Necrons, Orks). After being ripped apart by a Chaos Marine, due to all the latent Chaos energies around, your soul ends up tormented and devoured by demons.

I choose being eaten by a swarm of Rippers.
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>>49872581
>no fear of death
>no retreat
>no chance of demoralization or surrender on their part
>no quarter given to you
>rape and torture a certainty
>still intelligent enough to set traps and ambushes
Yeah, there's a reason to fear them. It's like fighting Polynesians if they had the same technology as you did. Even if you win you're still fucked.
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>>49872628
Sounds like the Worf effect to me.
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>>49872628
Bullshit, Orks are so hardcore than fucking Khorne himself carved them out a special place in his realm.

CSM are lucky for one in double digit thousands to become Daemon Princes.
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>>49873588
> No ATSKNF
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>>49873151
It's going to be revealed to be Lileath.
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>>49873588
So not that different from anyone else other than the Guard.
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>>49873588
Chaos Marines do fear death and will retreat.
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>>49873588
>no chance of demoralization

they have morale in DOW
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>>49872647
Reminds me of that poor fucker in Dragon Age Origins.

Broodmother was such a creepy fucking boss

Man, Bioware used to be good at making games.
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>>49874571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FOfcKzyii0
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>>49872628
they were probably blood axes, weve been known to have an occasional tactical retreat
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>>49872581
When it comes to renegades, heretics, and cultists the dangerous thing is that their danger is from within not without and as a result the Imperium Infrastructure is far more vulnerable to them as other factions.

Munitions wise the above and Chaos Space Marines are both often equipped with the very same things the Imperium are but boosted by Chaos powers. So the renegades can ALSO "just use artillery and shell them." That additional Chaos boost on everything is paid for by overall not being as organized as the Imperium as you claim.

Daemons are often the very best at doing what they specialize in. Good luck dealing with Khornate daemons in close combat. Good luck somehow managing to down Nurgle daemons before they do their thing. Good luck outdoing the speed of Slaaneshi daemons. Good luck having some kind of psyker/magic support that can outdo goddamn Tzeentch himself.

Dark Eldar comparatively only pull a couple of space pirate shenanigans here and there.

Necrons, despite having the most powerful technology, have the absolute worst organization maybe even worse than Orks so they can be beat in a divide and conquer style. Orks' shitty organization allows for some sort of tactics to down them, too.

If the Imperium gets serious, Tau aren't a threat.

Eldar are possibly the best overall race but their numbers are few and thus easy to overwhelm if need be.

Tyranids are the only threat that can match the type of threat Chaos is. Not only do they have seemingly endless numbers on their side, they are also capable of causing damage from within similar to Chaos thanks to Genestealer Cults. But the main fleet still hasn't entered the galaxy itself, and until that happens, Chaos has a far more versatile set of threats and higher capability of hurting the Imperium so Chaos is still top.
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Being Tau would be the best thing in the 40k verse. I'd way rather be in power armor than some paraplegic dreadnought or some twisted deformity.
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>>49878330
If the Necrons weren't so incompetent at damn near everything they would wipe the galaxy clean, fortunately they're absolute shit.
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I'm more interested with d eldar vs chaos sm conflicts for an evenly matched spoopy vs spoopy fight with a fate worst than death for those that inevitably get caught alive.

Imagine being a chaos dread torn out of his coffin and abducted for amusement by a matriarch or haemonculi or maybe some sort of wych capped alive to be a living trophy for a daemon prince. If youre lucky maybe it will be slaneesh on slaneesh and both sides would get off to it, but probably not as either side would know the specialized torment they should visit upon their new toy.
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>>49878479
And I for one like the lore as it is now for them.
You got a Kleptomaniac, the Altimeters old coot, an honor bound to a fault guy with a hand fetish and a old body guard trying to keep it all together.
They are the Arrested Development of the 40K family and if you play it up beyond the dice and numbers it is a blast to play.
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>>49872753
>100 regiments.
>88 regiments killed!
>8 demon princes!
>Get it?! 888! Le clever ex dee alternate 666 man.
God damn GW writing is fucking dogshit.
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>>49872581
>Chaos is always shilled as such terror to behold yet it boils down to a bunch of slightly deformed spergs

Stopped reading right there, if i fucking have to remind you of the demons than you dont know enough to be worth having this conversation with.
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>>49872628
And the orks didnt get excited and get stuck in right proppa to show em how ya eat an enemy.

Who are these green things that have shown up since 6th edition?

They sure arent fucking orks thats for sure.
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>>49872581
>I think Chaos is overrated it
Black Library has overrated the fuck out of it.
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>>49874571
EA is that abusive girlfriend that turns your best friend into a shell of his former self, and then he gets ditched because he wasn't the same person anymore.
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>>49881780
I dont read BL. In what way have they overrated it?
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>>49881620
He mentions the Daemons right after. He says he understands when they show up, and is talking about basic warbands and shit.
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>>49878479
As a Necron fan, in can confirm that this is 100% true.
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>>49873531
What, you don't LIKE the smell of bacon?
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>>49872607
The crimson slaughter are better night lords than night lords.
Haha fuck you curzefag
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>>49881675
Yeah, the Ork Codex specifically describes a Waaugh that is still on a Demon World, and enjoying themselves immensely because there is always more fighting the next time they wake up. Presumably the Khornite forces that are involved also enjoy it greatly, and the whole "Valhalla" aspect.

The killing never ends, day in and day out.
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>>49874571
>First day they come, and take everyone...
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>>49878669

There's a story in the dekda
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>>49884848

Fuck.

There's a story in the deldar Codex about a raid that gets fucked up by a chaos warlord. Lilleth leads a raid against him, fucks his shit, challenges him to a duel, cuts off his limbs, and brings him home as a trophy.
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>>49884859
Poor guy. Was he healed up to become a gladiator or he was kept as a limbless pet?
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>>49885484
Vect hooked him up a standard and kept him as a living trophy infront of his building. He still screams to this day.
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>>49885484
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>>49885553
>having screaming, agonizing captive hanging at your entrance 24/7

Holy shit, that would get annoying pretty quickly. Can you imagine how hard it is to sleep there at night?
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>>49885601
In the Dark City sleeping is not as difficult as waking up again.
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>>49885601
>He doesn't go to sleep listening to the soothing sounds of his enemies tortured screams.
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>>49885863
He doesn't go to sleep because it is too fucking noisy.

Imagine living next to neighbours that play ridiculously music for the whole night. This music might be your favourite genre, but still, its too fucking loud to close your eyes and go to sleep normally.
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>>49885553
It doesn't seem terribly practical to have a daemonically powered Chaos LORD hanging around infront of your home. You'd think the guy could render healing on himself by drawing energy from all the shit going on underneath him.

Here's the trick about DE vs CSM kids, the DE created Slaanesh, sure, but CSM get the priviledge of living with the guy. Take your pick which is worse.
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>>49886455

Chaos is fickle. If you fuck up so hard that a bunch of edgy space elves completely wreck your shit, your patron god might not think your pleas for aid are worth bothering with.
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>>49872628
>Loota boy.
>Coward.
Yeah, they use those big guns to compensate. What else is new?
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>>49881474
You're just a bundle of joy, aint ya?
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>>49874437
>>49874491
That's only normal marines. Possessed marines are moral immune and are more common to see in the front line than "normal" chaos space marines.

Just take a second to imagine pic related jumping out at your chimera, slicing it open like a tin can. And then proceeding to slaughter everyone inside. All the while your lasgun bolts bounce off his chaos forcefield. Because that's a thing possessed marines can get.
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>>49886811
At least he's not a haemonculus.
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>>49886832
Yeah those guys have problems.
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>>49872628
I feel vindicated, now that I've finally read a piece that shits all over the Orks to the benefit of Chaos, instead of shitting on Chaos to the benefit of everyone else.

It's still shit, but at least there's a modicum of balance.
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>>49873588
Chaos Space Marines are specifically excepted from And They Shall Know No Fear, because they're too self-centered to be fearless.
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>>49878330
>If the Imperium gets serious, Tau aren't a threat.
M8, if the Tau lore progresses as it has been, a single Tau fire warrior will soon be able to beat a full chapter of space marines.
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>>49881474
8 has always been the number of Khorne, dude.
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>>49878330
>If the Imperium gets serious, Tau aren't a threat.

The Imperium got serious, it was thrown on its ass in Kauyon and Mont'ka.
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>>49872607
>>49872628
>The human can be violent, but even the guys who are violenter than humans think this guys are violenterer than them.

GW writing at its finest.
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>>49874253
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>>49887035
They are possessed and mutated by the god of violence and rage power. They should be more violent than the guys who are naturally violent.
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>>49886989
Serious question for a person that never understand how the Tau are considered a mayor race (I don't have anything against them just seems to be incomparable to the level of orks or necrons): How many Tau individuals exists per humans in the imperium?
How many Taus exists for each ork?
How may for each nids, eldars, demons, etc...?
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>>49887136
Tau are only a 'major' race because of their auxillia, which GW keeps fucking forgetting. Their empire is small as fuck, but they've lashed together half a dozen or so various small alien powers into a cohesive empire. Tau should be the "Misc. Alien" Faction, not the superior weebotron mecha-mecha doujin-gaidan sama kun faction, desu senpai. At their core they should be Sino-Jap shit because that's what sells and that is the T'au, but they need to flesh out the other races and introduce them as units.
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>>49887248
Also, to expand on this, the whole 'Tau adaptiveness' thing should be because they have SEVERAL RACES working together who can offer multiple solutions to a problem, not because their super science lets them build new mecha to adapt to shit
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>>49887136
Enough to defeat massive Imperial crusades, one after another.
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>>49887136
Tau used to just be representative of all the tiny alien empires that are supposed to exist on the fringes of human space. Unfortunately, the writers forgot about this after the first codex, and since then have been struggling to explain how such a small faction can be as powerful as the rest, resulting in hilariously depressing levels of Mary Sue on their part.

The Tau accidentally created a weapon capable of destroying stars, and they can quickly reverse-engineer anything as long as they get a single example of that technology.

In the FFG role playing games, a Tau Fire Warrior can repair and fundamentally improve archeotech.
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>>49887287
>In the FFG role playing games, a Tau Fire Warrior can repair and fundamentally improve archeotech.

I forgot to mention. The fluff reason for why they can do this is that they're "open minded".
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>>49887269
Didn't the Imperium kill their space pope, ravage their border worlds, and then literally set the galaxy on fire around them in a giant wall of burning?
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>>49887291
That's kinda, uhh... Stupid.
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>>49887248
>>49887260
I understand, so the real power and meaning of this faction is clearly obviated to concrete the aesthetics that make them sell...

A pitty, I read somewhere that they have an alliance with the demiurg, and I want this non squat dwarfs.

>Tau should be the "Misc. Alien" Faction, not the superior weebotron mecha-mecha doujin-gaidan sama kun faction, desu senpai.
Also, lost.
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>>49887305
>One culexus killed him and his entire retinue.
It was that scenario wasn't it? Or am I mistaken?
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>>49887328
true, though to be fair every other temple tried and failed first
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>>49887330
That's because they were something the Tau could understand.
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>>49887330
The eversor had a good run of it, he was just going up against an entire unit of named characters with rules rather than just one.
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>>49872581
Fighting anything chaotic is always going to be terrifying, at best you're fighting some psychotic with potentially unknown powers to fighting some juiced up killing machines to fighting things literally beyond comprehension (being attacked by sentient colors or soul destroying smells).

Space marines would never find that a problem as space marines don't fear anything and are trained to hate unconditionally.

What I think is a much underrated horror of chaos is that it change completely change your mind and point of view. Alot of fiction shows chaos as a choice, but, especially in Warhammer Fantasy, chaos can also be portrayed as a infection or a malus (like radiation) that just by being exposed to it, it can slowly errode what you believe in and your point of view. That is much more terrifying.
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>>49887357
Did that Eversor manage to take down any of The Eight?
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>>49881474
See if they stopped at 66, only 6 would've ascended and been forced under Slaanesh. No one wants that.
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>>49887401
At least one of the named ones (but since pretty much all of the eight can be replaced without missing a beat it's not that relevant), and several unnamed mook suits.

In addition to the entire facility's staff. But that was just a warm up.
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>>49887305
>Didn't the Imperium kill their space pope,

Yep.

>ravage their border worlds

Nope, the Tau were the ones invading the worlds. The Imperials failed to defend them or take them back.

>and then literally set the galaxy on fire around them in a giant wall of burning?

They set the Damocles Gulf on fire. It's an empty area of space that's hostile to life.

What happened is that the Tau won a great military victory and then the Imperials got salty.
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>>49887481
Literally screaming "YOU DIDN'T WIN, YOU DIDN'T WIN!"
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>>49887291
>"An open mind is like a fortress with its gate unbarred and unguarded."

Daemonic invasion / Tau Skynet when?
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Might as well post it because it's still the only part of the assassin shitshow I really liked. Dude was basically going up against a full army solo.

Rode around on a drone, oneshot a riptide. It's just a shame he wasn't allowed to permanently off the names.
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>>49887136
More than the number of Grey Knights
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>>49887553
Man, love it.
Thanks for the share.

Such a shame Eversors are so subpar on table.
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>The assasin didn't explode as soon as it died.
What is this shit? Did the author forget they do this?
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>>49887603
I just didn't feel like capturing the other part

eversors are the greatest
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>>49887531
Never, because plot armor/fan favorite.

Alternatively, they'll sacrifice the Far Sight enclaves to make mainline Tau look even better

>>49887481
Admittedly, the Imperium DID stop their advance in this way. It will likely work to the T'au's advantage though, giving them time to recouperate, as well as shielding them from whatever big baddo is likely coming.

The T'au are, at this point, isolated with the Tyranids, who they've already fought to a stand still (which is admittedly bull shit). Dal'yth becomes their Cadia against the Imperium. It DOES forestall their expansion until they find a way to fix their FTL problem though.
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>>49887629
YESSSSSSSS!
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>>49887662
>the coffee pot then explodes and screams WRRRYYY

>tacticalgenius.jpg
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>>49887248
>>49887260

A quick perusal of the Tau codex shows that they have over a dozen named races under their wing.

Anthrazods
Brachyura
Demiurg
Formosian
Galg
G’nosh
Greet
Hrenian
Ji'atrix
Kroot
Morralian
Nagi
Nicassar
Poctroon
Ranghon
Tarellian
Tau
Vespid
Yabi-Yabi

It really irks me because even when you whittle away all the slave/delegate/economic races you have maybe five or six mini-codexes waiting to be expanded upon and sold. Even the kroot and Vespid could get their own books each if they updated the existing range and added a couple new dual kits.
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>>49887504
The imperials didn't win. They lost and screwed off with a parting gift. The crusade objective failed.

>>49887660
>>Admittedly, the Imperium DID stop their advance in this way.

At a great cost. However, the Tau retain all the worlds they conquered with the exception of Agrellan which was burned. The Tau are in the positive.

> Dal'yth becomes their Cadia against the Imperium.

Dal'yth is in no way relevant to what happened.
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>>49887672
Rather than screaming, eversors seem to laugh a whole lot when they show up in the fluff.

I mean, they're probably having the times of their lives acting as the slasher villain to the Imperium's enemies.
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>>49887716
>The imperials didn't win. They lost and screwed off with a parting gift. The crusade objective failed.
Thatsthejoke.

That's what you do when you lose like a bitch. You kick over the table, set fire to the house, and then shoot yourself in the head, all the while screaming about how they didn't win.

Only they were too incompetent to burn and run properly even.
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>>49887716
>Dal'yth is in no way relevant to what happened.

Look at the map.

With the Damoclese Gulf on fire, the only way into/out of T'au space towards the galactic center is to go around it - through Dal'yth. This means it will likely be the launching point for all future T'au expeditions - if they can ever work out a way to get over their FTL problems - and it's also the only point the Imperium can reasonable attack them from either, since the Gulf stretches out to the edge of the Emperors light and is, y'know, on fire.

The Imperium have effectively bottlenecked the T'au, but this means it will be functionally impossible to attack and wipe them out. Only the Tyranids are in a position to do it now.
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>>49887723
Yes, canonically Eversors are holy rollers, singing hymns and having a grand old time like a sassy black grandma in church as they murderfuck people. They're basically comic doom guy
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>>49887660
> The T'au are, at this point, isolated with the Tyranids, who they've already fought to a stand still (which is admittedly bull shit).

To be fair, the Tau are not beating back the nids because they are stronger than the Imperium. The Tau are beating back the nids because their manner of space combat is inherently better suited to dealing with that enemy.

The Imperium keeps fighting to defend planets, getting overrun, and firing broadsides at point blank range and other heroic actions that involve phyrric victories and massive heroic sacrifices to turn back the tide.

The Tau just engage the nids in deep space, far from any planet whether they can take root, and hit them with missiles from extreme range until the hive ships are dead and there isn't anything else to shoot missiles at. Most Tau space battles against the nids in this fashion are one sided victories because the nids never get close enough to the Tau fleet to fire back.

The Imperim COULD fight the nids intelligently, but by and large they don't. The Tau don't share that flaw.
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>>49887761

Didn't we already get fluff of the Tau testing advanced shield tech that would let some of their ships fly through the part of space that is now on fire?

Fixing their FTL is one solution, but they might just buff up their ship shields and armor and fly through it not giving a fuck. Which the Imperium will probably regret in the long run, because any ship that can fly through the Damocles Gulf now and reliably make it out the other side is probably kind of a bitch to shoot down. They would be functionally immune to plasma and lascannons at that point.
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>>49887828
I want to protect their smiles.
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You also gotta remember that at the micro level chaos cultists are like hardcore drug addicts and shooting them sometimes just pisses them off, in fact they canonically can survive in places that slaughter normal men purely from their chaotic corruption.

So you're a normal guardsman, you step out onto the surface of a burning world, you bulky protective gear protects you from the incinerator temperature outside at the cost of being slow and bulky and noisy, but you persevere because the emperor protects

But not as much as chaos

He stands about twenty meters away, a crude chainsword revving in his hands, the edge is a whirling orange streak, the thing should by rights not function in the heat, but it does. His face-mask is broken open and his boiled, blistered skin crackles, there's nothing underneath but burning flesh. This apparition laughs, raising its las pistol and attempting to breach your protective clothes. unheeding of its life as it charges your position, "DARK GODS!!" it bellows through smoldering lips, ignoring gunfire as its chest is pierced by stuttering lasfire and left a charred crater.
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>>49887833
Right, I was just thinking about the doctrinal differences.

Mind you, the Imperium is just hidebound, not stupid. I'm sure they long since figured out it's best to shoot the Tyranids from extreme range, and have the technology to do it. But logistics and the necessity of defending territory makes that impossible. They're stretched too thin, and their supply lines are too elongated. T'au on the other hand are right on their home turf, like the IoM would be if they were fighting the Tyranids next door to Terra, and they can spam A.I. missle drones at the Tyranids instead of wasting manned ships and soldiers against them
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>>49887833
The tau method of space combat is largely working because they're not going up against the same numbers the imperium is.

Like, to the guys who fought off Hive Fleet Behemoth in its entirety (even if they had to sacrifice a lot to do it) everything else is going to be pretty small time. The Tyranids had to go to ground and completely change their invasion strategy because of it.

That's why all the later hive fleets are spread around to maximize the chaos. They're infinitely more beatable than behemoth, but have a thousand potential invasions happening at the same time across a massive reach of space.
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>>49887723
>>49887553
I don't know about you, but I want to play a Bayonetta-slash-Devil May Cry action game as an Eversor.
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>>49887970
I think Eldar Autarch would work better, and Eversor could be an unlockable character
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>>49887970
could be a sandbox as well, don't forget they have driving skills

>>49887995
how would that work better, autarchs are army commanders rather than solo infiltrators
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>>49888028
Autarchs are war autists who have spent millenia literally just autisming about war and fighting.
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>>49888037
Autarchs are the ones who have left the war autism path and started on the RTS autist path
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>>49888037
So they're literally just /hwg/?
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>>49888037
That is true.
But somehow I feel playing an Eversor would be more enjoyable.
>the Autarch would be smug, quiet, and confident he's superior
>Eversor will be laughing the entire time. Instead of having a Combo count it would be a laughter count with him laughing harder and louder as the slaughter gets under way.

Totally would be down to have the Autarch as the main boss. And after killed he/she is unlocked.
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>>49888086
Autarch = Virgil
Eversor = Dante
Sister of Battle = Lady
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>>49887761
Aha...
That's what you meant.

I don't think so. The rulebook says that these are the last days of the Imperium.
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>>49888086
Don't eversors have a limited amount of time to live outside of being frozen between ripping and tearing?
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>>49888107
True, which is why I said the wall is probably to the T'au's advantage. As long as they can hold off the Tyranids, they'll be shielded from whatever cataclysm destroys the Imperium

Unless it's Chaos.

Or the Necrons

>>49888109
Pretty sure they are immediately refrozen after rip and tear, and live from battle to battle.
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>>49887964
>Like, to the guys who fought off Hive Fleet Behemoth in its entirety

The Imperium didn't fight Behemoth in its entirety.

Orks, Necrons, Eldar, and even the Tau tore at it for them. The Eldar destroyed two tendrils, Orks pirate fleets slowed and damage the fleet, the Tau killed off several splinter fleets of it, and the Silent King ravaged the fleet before returning to the galaxy.
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>>49888109
Everything has a limited amount of time to live.
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>>49872647
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Daemonculaba

It's almost hot, but then it really isn't.
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>>49888128
>The Imperium didn't fight Behemoth in its entirety.
kinda did, until 7th edition when everyone went "wait, me too!"

It's like GW forgot kraken exists, despite it being designed to let everyone have a piece of the pie and where the whole concept of splinter fleets fucking came from.
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>>49878479
And that's why Newcrons are shit, and everybody who likes them is a fucking coprophage.
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>>49878374
Being tau isn't so hot either. They're all indoctrinated into a cult-like environment through pheromones probably, the caste system essentially fuses communism and slavery, fire warriors are psychologically tortured during training.
The tau empire, while it is nicer than most races in 40k, will still enslave any race they encounter and use them as meat shields in battle. If the race refuses this glorious gift, they're exterminated.
It's no wonder only one small group has ever seceded from the empire since it was founded, the ethereals are the epitome of ingrained tyranny.
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>>49887833
>The Tau are beating back the nids because their manner of space combat is inherently better suited to dealing with that enemy.

You mean being fellated by the writers? Yeah, that's a pretty effective manner of any kind of combat.
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>>49888181
funny
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>>49887833
The Tau are a ridiculously small little pocket empire in the ass end of the galaxy. The very idea of them fighting back the 'nids is absolutely ridiculous.
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>>49886974
eh, the imperium had their chance to blow the tau up, maybe its still possible, but everyday the tau get stronger, and imperium gets just a bit weaker

they could pour yet more men in, but that would take away from chaos, orks, and tyranids

all the while, the tau get more planets, build new weapons
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>>49883710
>The killing never ends, day in and day out.
OI LIVE! OI DIE! OI LIVE AGAIN!
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>>49888820
in this case literally
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>>49872581
>They are literally just fighting less mentally stable humans.
Been in a psych ward with violent patients recently?
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>>49887710
Which ones would you like to see?
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>>49888842
No but I'm pretty sure armed soldiers wouldn't be afraid of some fuckos.
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>>49874571
Broodmother was the worst part of that game
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>>49883255
Joking aside, iirc it's a mix of candy floss and rotten meat. Does anyone know where they say this?
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>>49872607
so... if you ignore the environment reskin, they're still just a bunch of deformed spergs?
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>>49890632
Who kill you horribly by just being on you planet.
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>>49888684
> 1000 space marines fighting back a force of trillions of bugs using explosive shotgun shells and chainsaws = good writing
> an empire of a hundred worlds sending their space fleets to attack the trillions of space bugs while they are vulnerable in deep space and using waves and waves of missiles to do the job safely = bad writing

And now I know better.
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>>49890917
yes, for the space marines have obviously a much higher chance to prevail, newfag
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>>49872581
Dark Eldar would be the worst, all their weapons are designed to incredibly intense pain, and if you don't die? Enjoy the next few months or years of not being able to die and being in the most excruciating pain imaginable
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>>49872581
>Be shooting from a trench against chaos infused marines, flaming bolter rounds slam into the mud behind you throwing up dirt and shrapnel. Peeking over the trench a chaos marine is charging straight at you screaming, you shoot at him but your lasguns shots bounce off his armour, he leaps into the trench at inhuman speed, cleaving your squad mate apart licking the blood off his face as he charges towards you and begins hacking at your body

Pretty bad

>Wake up one night , its dark and you aren't in your bunk, you will your muscles into action but cant move, your eyes roll towards the door and you see tall lithe figures in black spiked carapace gliding weightlessly into the room, they slice the throats of several of your fellow guardsman, you try to scream out or move or anything but are paralysed, one smiles down at you with its alien face and grabs your leg silently dragging you out of the room away from your friends into the darkness, all the while smiling as his friends join your group with prisoners of their own

Worse
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>>49888684
>>49887833
To be fair hive fleet gorgon has been rewritten a few times, as it currently stands they won because necrons showed up to help
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>>49891438
You cluleless. Nothing changed. The Imperial arrival helped out in finally putting the fleet down.

The Necron involvement is a small footnote that was dropped in the 7th ED dex.
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>>49882512
>like a hundred posts just arguing about whether some Necron, non-warp, space drives were sub-light or not
Aren't they ACTUAL warp drives, as in they warp spacetime, and not edgy hyperdrives like all the other factions use?
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>>49890917
>reducing the powerfullest chapter within the imperium, with the ressources of 500 worlds at their disposal to 1000 marines
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>>49891068

Not the guy you are replying to, but wut??
Are you being sarcastic about plot armour or just retarted?
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>>49894520
take your pick
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>>49878330
>>49878479
Necrons are incompetent? Thought they were all part of some hive mind and could organize like nobody's business. Only thing holding them back is the fact that most tomb worlds were still asleep.
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I am honestly surprised that Deldar and Night Lords never work together, seeing as they are both piratical shitheads.
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>>49885899
No wonder everyone is batshit crazy in Comorrogh. All they need is a good night's sleep.
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