I'm trying to run a middle-ages noblebright low-magic European

>>49865926
Pendragon is this, but the stuff is steeped pretty deeply in the Arthurian Legend stuff system wise but I'd still take a look, newer stuff in particular is pretty steller.

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>>49865926
NONE MORE WORTHY! DEUS VULT!

>>49865926
Symbaroum is pretty kickass and almost exactly this.

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>>49865926
I'd grab GURPS for this, set it in TL 3, set in 1233 using stuff from Low Tech, Crusades and Martial Arts book.

I'd either have no magic for player characters or limit them to slow, careful spells, ritual path magic with no Adepts, battling the dark pagans and twisted, strange Orthodox heretics in the far north of the world.

Give the characters 200 points or so, with 50 points in flaws. Powerful, dramatic characters, but ones that aren't superhuman.

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>>49865926
>Middle-ages
>Noblebright
>Low-magic

Quit bullshitting, OP, and just run a Monty Python game already.

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>>49865926
>Does it exist?
GURPS

>>49865926
Anon posted what you are looking for: >>49866468

Germany, 1400. The Church is divided between evil bureaucrats, holier-than-thou douche-bags, and people just out to help the poor and hungry masses. Robberknights control various castles in the wildnerness, while the various Princes rule their city-states. The Hanse trading guild wars against river-boat pirates and bandits in the woods. Satanic cults hold sabbaths to summon demons. Witches, alchemists and doctors protect their secrets of alchemy. Knockers invade mines. Tatzelwurms and giant spiders roam the bogs. Somewhere to the Northwest, there are rumors of a dragon being seen in the sky. Saints occasionally answer your prayers with miracles according to a wholly unpredictable mechanic that makes no fucking sense and you will not be able to comprehend even if you have played the game for twenty. fucking. years.

>>49865926

Teutonic Knights were not noblebright, they were Catholics happily slaughtering other Catholics or Orthodox Christians merely because their purpose was invalidated through conversions.

They're the perfect example of how holy knights could be anything but, their wars were fought to conquer land and form a kingdom, not convert the heathen.

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>>49865926
Hârn is this tbqh senpai

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>>49865926
i tried to get my group to run it with this map and setting, and they sent this back to me and told me to go back and make one that didn't suck and actually put some effort into it

>>49867508
You sound like a fucking heretic.

>>49869813
Tfw Teutonic Knights are perfect inspiration for LE knightly order dedicated to tyranny.
Actually done that, it was rad.
Teutonic knights weren't nice men, even for fellow christians

>>49867889
Funny. Took me all the way to England to get it

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>>49867889

>>49870133
Knights Hospitalier were fairly bro-tier if i'm remembering my history correctly, and the Knights Templar were way more chill than pop culture or conspiracy theories would lead one to believe.

>>49870184
Both just fought against sandniggers in holy land while teutonics went on full conqueran on mostly harmless, save for some border raiding, european pagans, practicing mass murderrape spree and slavery, then when there was no more pagans to conquer they turned against christian neighbours, including ones that invited them in first place.
Also they had state organisation closest to totalitarianism you can have with medieval tech.
Also before settling in prussia they got kicked out from hungary after trying basically the same thing but getting caught early

>>49870252
Yeah, Poland took them to the curb if I recall. Good times.

>>49870252
I still love the crazy bastards.

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>>49867889
>Removed France
Your group is right, that map does suck.

>>49867307
GURPS is never the answer.

>>49870781
found the frenchie

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>>49870184
post bro-tier knightly orders

Order of Saint Lazarus - badass leper knights

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>>49871282
>leper knights
woah shit, really!?

>>49871282
let me guess

your the anon making a st Lazarus space marine chapter

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>>49871315
yup, probably the only real historical version of "undead" paladin

Order of the Dragon - kebab removers

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Not much in the way how their knights looked though

>>49871380
nope

>>49871432
>Not much in the way how their knights looked though
well they were hungarian, so they looked like contemporary european knights, though i have seen some depictions of them as hussars (top hats, pimping coats and hussar shields).

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>>49871522
nice, what's your source? Or you're just using common sense?

Here are some hungarian hussars for you

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>>49871432

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>>49871686
can't find this one in a better res but damn would I love to have it

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>>49871699
late 17th and 18th century hussar; badass as fuck

>>49866483

Hmm? Symbaroum is anything but Noblebright

>>49871686
I am going by "common sense" and osprey illustrations of common troops. And quick googling :I

>>49867480
>Saints occasionally answer your prayers with miracles according to a wholly unpredictable mechanic that makes no fucking sense and you will not be able to comprehend even if you have played the game for twenty. fucking. years.

Isn't that the point though? God works in mysterious ways and all that?

>>49871813
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Here's some shit

>>49867889
I still don't get what altering the original map adds to the joke.

>>49872022
>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/13/bc/e8/13bce8f14e5badc6f9efe76d97b7fc70.jpg

Do we have man-at-arms series available for download somewhere? That would be fucking awesome

>>49867480
also, you can push the game into some less explored historical environments like Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Kievan Rus or medieval Russia, lands around the Black Sea etc. Too bad Microprose never got around making Darklands 2 because they planned to explore the historical setting mentioned and if you played the game I don't have to tell you how awesome that would be and how good fucking job would they do.

>>49865926
Your stupid teutonic knights are under the ice feeding fish.

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>>49873447
The fuck you were saying infidel?

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>>49873488
Said it to your face, heretic

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>>49873529
CHAAAAAAAAARGEEEEEEEE!!!

>>49870285
They took them to the curb, but instead of shitcanning them, they let them survive as a vassal state. Then said vassal state proceeded to betray Poland on every opportunity, and after 300 years or so, took part in partitioning of Poland.
Inviting Hospitaliers was a mistake.

>>49867508
The great thing about fantasy is that you can *fantasize* about things that didn't happen, and *idealize* things that did.

History wasn't noblebright, or for that matter, low-magic. OP doesn't want a historically accurate or truthful setting, He wants a middle-ages noblebright low-magic European setting, not a documentary about how awful history really was.

If you can't use your imagination, creativity, or suspension of disbelief to such a small degree, why are you on /tg/?

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>>49873871
>proceeds to get defeated by Poles and Lithuanians christened literally yesterday

Okay, let's say I just want to Monty Python
What are some good systems?

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Did someone say Teutonic Knights?

>>49873969

There are significantly more interesting ways to play the Baltic Crusades than noblebright.

>>49879980
Interest and fun are relative.

>>49870561
Yeah, I love them too, but them being bad motherfuckers is the very reason I love them.
Image a land quite far up north, damp because of it's low altitudes and covered mostly with dark pine woods, murky lakes and bogs, with only small strips of cleared land between.
Imagine a network of gaunt, tall gothic fortresses of red brick, build upon those land as a system of military occupation.
Imagine an hierarchical society with horned-helmeted, uniformly clad knights at the top. Those knights are gods and masters for everyone else, yet even among their ranks there is strict hierarchy, and disobedience is punished strictly.
Below them are knights that aren't fully part of the order, or aren't at all, instead being their secular vassals. They may poses land and wealth but they have very little to say in politics, as the Order controlls the state like a mono-party proto-fascist oligarchy.
Imagine burghers in very few scattered, mostly placed on cosasts of foggy Baltic, towns that don't have a faction of your usual burgher autonomy most cities in europe had at the time, also subjugated strongly by the Order, despite fact of their inhabitants being mostly settled ethnic Germans, often after original population (and that including christian Slavs) exterminated.
Imagine caste of Baltic serfs, being slaves in almost everything but their name. Most of them, or their ancestors, were forced to chose cross at swordpoint which differs harshly from many other crusades where knights just took the land and actual conversions were though offering boons and normal proselytizing. Slightest disobedience towards the Order is punished by death. Revolts are bathed in blood and through the exceptional organization of the order and their fortress network, none of them stands slightest chance.
Teutonic Order State is literal paragon of LE alignment, and Teutonic Knights are your prototype evil knights. It wouldn't be out of place as order dedicated to Bane or Hextor

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>>49871315
Well, my understanding is that they were not necessarily actually lepers, but rather an order founded around protecting and caring for a leper hospital.
Still, the famous Baldwin IV of Jerusalem suffered from leprosy and was a famed military commander who participated on the front lines before his illness crippled him, so it's not unbelievable that there might have been some knights who suffered from that terrible condition too.
>>49870184
Templars were pretty close to Jedi. Religious warriors who were ferocious in battle, but also did a lot of work as skilled diplomats and intermediaries, and were then betrayed and destroyed by a ruthless political mastermind.

>>49881759
>Well, my understanding is that they were not necessarily actually lepers, but rather an order founded around protecting and caring for a leper hospital.
They were originally, however as I recall, the order or high command was desperate so they gathered up some armor and sent the lepers into the field to see what would happen.

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>>49881715
Sweet.