MTG Modern General

>>49825778
Alright /tg/ I've got a real question for you. I've been playing Jund for a long time and every week I keep hearing the same old shit that Abzan is just better than Jund. I don't buy it, it just doesn't make sense to me that path to exile and lingering souls are better than lightning bolt and dark confidant. Am I being memed here? What gives?

>>49825795
Junk is probably better than Jund in this meta

>>49825813
Maybe my meta is just weird, I usually do pretty well with Jund at FNM and other store events.

>>49825823
Abzan having the better cards to fight the meta does not make Jund a bad deck by itself. The best deck is the one you master.

>>49825823
I mean it's not like Jund is terrible right now I can just see how people say Junk is a bit better at the moment. I think that's due to the important white sideboard hate cards and that path is more relevant than bolt.

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any of you guys ever tried this combo?
pic related +
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wonder how it would work

>>49825943
>6 mana do-nothing artifact that needs to sit in play for a turn to win
Doesn't seem worth it desu

>>49825959
not even for shit and giggles?
Not like you have to sacrifice the artifact.
You can swap life all the time

>>49825823
Junk has access to RiP which is the best grave hate in the game. If there is a bunch of dredge at your store, play it. Hell I play tron and side in RiP against dredge (able to play off my eggs)

>>49825795
Junk runs dark confidant too

>>49825795
Junk fights other midrange decks better. Bolt can't take care of most goyfs or something like a TKS, but path can. Jund does have terminate, but Junk will just stall the board with Lingering souls and then counterpush

>>49825980
>Mana leak

>>49826373
Wow fuck blue. What an anti-fun color.

>>49826484
Nobody likes blue

>>49826016
Junk doesn't want rip when it uses it's own yard

>>49826484
>>49826561
Hating blue is a meme born from the JtMS days.
Why it lingers no one knows. Neckbeards simply have no other outlet for their fury.

>>49826600

>only slightly affect yourself
>silver bullet the opponent

Uh huh.

>>49826016
Why not just Relic? Rip's answered as easily as Relic but the latter cantrips and doesn't nonbo with Wurmcoil (and World Breaker).

>>49826722
>>49826722
I can't deny that statement, hating on blue is fun.

>>49826016
>nihil spellbomb
One shot opponent and aids you

>>49826786

Relic isn't a permanent answer. Dredge mills incrementally and gets more dudes every time as they're dredging. Dredge can play through relic, they can't play through RIP. Leyline of the void is better.

>>49827062
How often do you get RiP stuck in your hand with no eggs? I'm thinking about putting Tron back together but the Dredge MU seems manageable already g1 on paper with Wurmcoil and Ugin.

>>49826732
There are some decks like Grixis where grave hate is relevant but if you rely on the yard it's not worth bringing in RiP.

>>49827076
There's no reason to run RiP in tron, an Ugin minus is literally gg for a lot of decks

Been out of the loop for awhile.

Red Affinity is still considered the less optimal choice right? Hangarback Walker went the way of the dodo too?

>>49828454
Since the meta's a shitstorm of 30 flavors of "do you have it?" and just generally goldfishing at your opponent, Galvanic Blast is hella lot better than Thoughtcast, midrange/control is pretty dead other than Jund and Nahiri piles. Hangarback is still an okay sideboard card vs Jund or basically anything with Shatterstorm.

>>49828507
I was more thinking of the heavier red version with 4 Galvanic Blast and 2-4 Shrapnel Blasts.

>>49828990
Haven't seen Shrapnel Blast ever and I've played competitively for over a year. All the other cards in the deck are either resilient-ish game winning threats or combo enablers, not sure what you'd cut for 2-for-1 myself to deal 5.

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>>49827434
>Modern decks
>Grixis

>>49827076

I wasn't specifically commenting on relic in Tron, more just relic vs RIP in general and why RIP is better in many situations

>>49829059
I'm going back a couple years probably. It's been awhile since monored Affinity placed anywhere.

>>49828454
Although I would love to play Shrapnel Blast, it often times isn't enough vs "kill it now" decks like Valakut, and it only seems to dilute the plan vs decks you already overrun.

It can be meta dependent though. It isn't a strictly bad choice, just be very careful what you cut.

Also Hangarback is dead, unless Jund/control becomes a thing again, and Thoughtcast starts seeing play.

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>mfw bubble hulk is still a thing

>>49829712
Kitchen table thing

>>49829712
With all the grave hate floating around, bubble hulk seems a lot weaker unless your meta has 0 dredge.

>>49829976
Not really considering it's basically the griselbrand decks with just a different wincon

>>49830473
It's not though. It's much worse

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Are these still the staples of every color?

>>49830659

Replace Goyf with Scavenging Ooze. Replace Liliana with Thoughtseize then that's almost all the staples.

Outside of Jund, not all black decks run LotV and not all Green decks run Goyf.

>>49829115
>Also Hangarback is dead, unless Jund/control becomes a thing again

path is the most popular removal spell in the format plus jund has kalitas which exiles so its pretty dead

>>49831878

I'd argue for goyf over scooze and thoughtseize is REALLY close but Liliana is more powerful pound for pound IMO (although you're probably right that thoughtseize is THE staple)

Still gotta go with the goyf though. If you're green and have dudes and aren't tribal you have goyfs, no contest. You probably *also* have scooze and it's great incidental life gain and grave hate but goyf is the big man.

>>49831954
Since path is so popular are most Affinity decks still only running one basic?

>>49831878
Scooze does not see more play than goyf.

>>49831878
>>49831961
Are you guys memeing me?

IoQ sees more play than Thoughtseize in Modern, this isn't Legacy

>>49832035
>Legacy
>Thoughtseize

Thank you for showing us you don't play Legacy.
The discard spell of choice is Cabal Therapy followed by Duress.

>>49830659

That's 'best Modern card', not staples.

>>49832017
>>49832017
>>49832035

Do not misinterpret my posting in thinking I am saying that Goyf is bad or Scooze is better.

While Goyf sees more play than Scooze in an overall metagame percentage, Goyf however does not see play in every deck that plays Green. Goyf's high rate of play is attributed due to high presence of Jund and Abzan lists where as Scooze will almost always see play in every other G based list.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/modern/full/creatures

Consider these statisticis where Scooze actually shows up in more % of different decks(Goyf 16% or different decks, Scooze 18% of different decks despite only a 9% dominance) than Tarmogoyf does despite the fact that Tarmogoyf sees more play due to the presence of Jund and Abzan decks being high representation which is what I was mean when Scooze is a staple because more decks outside those two decks play it.

>>49832035

Incorrect, Modern sees more Thoughtseize played than IoK.

>>49832186
And the scooze is a one of usually

>>49832228

That is correct. Usually 1-2, Scooze is a redundant card in multiples since if you've had two die already then chances are the graveyards are empty of anything to eat.

>>49832012
your other lands are way more important

If the current metagame is G = B > R > U > W,
how would a shift to W = R > U > B > G occur, and would that be an improvement?

Unbanning SFM is obviously a first move. In addition, what sort of beater archetype would allow W to exist as a playstyle distinctly different than the beaters found in Green?

>>49832094
Thanks for the correction.

>>49832435
You could go down to 2 Glimmervoids.

>>49832220
>>49832186

I meant maindeck, not sideboard.

>>49827076
Not that often because I have almost 3 times as many eggs as RiP, but it does happen. It's far from the best thing to do, but the look on people's face when I play it is worth it

>>49832730
W > ... > G (In any order in fact)
Would require Tarmogoyf getting banned, and SFM getting unbanned at the same time.
Or else all of the SFM decks would either be blue (because they'd need counter magic) or green (Because tarmogoyf)

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Would a card like this help to make control more viable in modern?

>>49832730
>>49833352

Stoneforge mystic is hardly a white card. It's a seed that grows into a colorless lifelink vigilant equipment on a black germ. It might make more people run white but it's hardly a white card.

>>49834531
Fuck off.

>>49834531

Would a card like this help you FUCK THE FUCK OFF

>>49834531
Fucking kys

>>49834531
You know, this isn't totally awful. I still think the extra turn is a bit much

>>49834578
Accumulated Knowledge is a better design.

Why do some infect decks run Kitchen Finks? is it for burn?

>>49834695
I'd assume it's to combat a melira

>>49834717
seems like a weird card to pick for that over just running dismember

>>49834578

"Oh, well how about this? Would a card like this help me kill myself?"

Don't give him any fucking more reasons to post.

>>49825778
So puca is currently going through a depression, where do I trade cards now?

>>49825778

magic has gone downhill over the years but recently its gotten even worse.

make magic great again damnit!

>>49834745
Shut the fuck up you sperg

>>49834695
>>49834736
Matchups with lots of removal. Burn and Jund come to mind.

>>49834923

what

>>49835165
Can you fucking read?

>>49832730
Print good white enchantments and good equipment with white in their cost. And stop giving protection and indestructible to artifacts and print it on white cards more.

>>49835335
Anon shut the fuck up. Nobody likes your shitty custom cards. Post modern related shit and help these generals un-cancer themselves.

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>>49834923
>>49835335
>>49834531

Here's a question. Does B have any decent anti-burn tech? Not that familiar with the current format, and helping a friend brew something.

>>49835357
White has good enchantments, they're just silver bullets. Whites shtick is trading 1 for 1 and equality for all. The trick is when a 1 for 1 trade gives them unless resources likes swords or equality for all translates to free lands like land tax. What white needs for modern is similar effects of good trades and good equalization effects

>>49834923
>>49835335

Aw someone's upset that modern general doesn't like his custom cards.

Go to custom card general where people actually support them. You're not saving modern with your "a card like this" posts.

>>49835465
Collective Brutality is decent against burn

>>49835465

Collective brutality.

>>49835465
Black has kalitas for main boaads, sideboard vimpiric link is insane, you stick it on their eidolon and then their eidolon becomes your eidolon. Inquisition is also strong, because it stripes them of their burn spells, even a thoughtseize takes their bolt preventing 1 damage

>>49835522
>watching a burn player bolt their own eidolon
always fun

>>49835522
>Vampiric Link Eidolon
Holy shit why did I never think of this

>>49835581
It's also good to just sticking w big idiot and throw at them if need be

>>49826722

People hated blue long before planeswalker cards existed

Why aren't more people running ceremonious rejection in their sides? It shits on so many great board options in the format right now and kicks eldrazi in the nuts. Nobody's playing against the card right now, I've won so many infect games against Eldrazi and anything that runs spellskite/EE, you can just catch them with their pants down and go for the win next turn.
8.7/10, definitely run it

>>49835522
Perfect, thanks.

>>49835364
>>49835432
>>49835498
I'm not that guy. You're all just losers

>>49835638
>and kicks eldrazi in the nuts
>when Cavern of Souls exists
no

>>49835612
Only literal children hate blue

>>49835803
But if they play Cavern + Temple on their first turns they can't respond to anything you do on those turns. EE does nothing and lists don't run spatial contortion. It works on multiple L E V E L S

>>49835727

sure you're not.

>>49836113
I'm not the fucking moron who thinks custom card guy is anything more than a troll

>>49836255

>lelel i was just trolling
okay. go elsewhere and take your shitty designs with you.

>>49836477
Get over yourself

>>49836605
Fuck off back to CCG fag.

>>49836659
Lmao stay ass pained. How many more times I gotta tell you I'm not him. I'm just laughing at your superiority complex and perceived high ground

>>49836689
no one cares if you're him or not, you're still a faggot

>>49836689
Your arguing against 3 different anons. You know that right?

>>49836853
Yes I do. And you're all retarded. What is your fucking point?

R8 my deck, gonna use this for the next couple of months

4x Soul Warden
4x Soul's Attendant
4x Champion of the Parish
4x Norin the Wary
4x Thalia's Lieutenant
2x Mentor of the Meek
2x Purphoros, God of the Forge
2x Hero of Bladehold

4x Genesis Chamber
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Path to Exile
1x Return to the Ranks

4x Flooded Strand
4x Inspiring Vantage
3x Sacred Foundry
1x Slayer's Stronghold
10x Plains

SB
3x Wear//Tear
3x Sudden Shock
2x Deflecting Palm
2x Oblivion Ring
2x Rest in Peace
2x Brave the Elements
1x Return to the Ranks

>>49836925
Hero of bladehold doesn't seem very good here

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>>49836904

>>49836958
Holy fuck this is hilarious. Stay so mad lmao

>>49836939

Why so? I previously considered Ranger of Eos into Loyalist, but I want a very high impact card post boardwipe. It also adds to the Humans sub theme

>>49836689
>How many more times I gotta tell you
>>49836904
>yes i do realize im arguing against 3 people
>>49836968
>stay so mad lmao

fuck off custom card apologist

>>49836904
>Gets called out on posting custom cards
>Completely details thread
>Calls others retarded
Ebin level shitposting, kiddo

>>49837011
Ok, I can understand that then, I was just thinking something like serra ascendant would synergize more.

>>49837082

Thats for more streamlined Soul Sister variants ft. Martyr of Sands or Proclamation of Rebirth, since you can easily make Ascendant go online turn 2.

This one's more for abusing ETB triggers multiple times

The strange thing about /tg/ is how many replies a shitposter can get.
Because /tg/ as a whole has this terrible board culture that thinks you can make another man's shitpost into something useful.

I expected this behavior from the D&D threads, but not here where we all just have to sit and live with the fact that Green will always be the dominant color of Modern unless WotC goes insane

>>49836925
How well does GW souls sisters work? Trying to make a modern deck for my gf, and it seems it has a low skill barrier to play.

>>49836925

Why not Lightning Helix and Pale Rider of Trostad?

Esper draw go seems to have gotten a lot, anyone playing it?

>>49837241
Untill the other colours get a creature that's as playable as goyf, green will be the best colour

>>49836925

Sorry meant Lone Rider here >>49837264

>>49837272
goyf was a mistake

>>49837284
No, it was a mistake only letting green get that good of value. Unban SFM

>>49837267
I am. Blessed Alliance is ace but I haven't gotten around to testing Collective Brutality yet. I wish I could just run it in the board in place of Thoughtseize, but
>tron

I might try a maindeck copy.

>>49837280

Helix is 2cc, besides, as if the deck needed more lifegain.

Pale rider seems alright, though I need to playtest it and see if its more optimal than Lieutenant. Pridemate didnt even make a cut in this deck

>>49837256

It has CoCo and has Archangel of thune+spike feeder combo built in

>>49837332

The Helix is just a good swingy spell to play against Burn and helps in flipping a Lone Rider which when flipped will survive Bolt, Pyroclasm and Anger of the Gods. Also becomes very good against chump blockers.

>>49837389

True, I didnt account for the synergy. Ill try it out in place of Bolt and Lieutenant

>>49837424

I wouldn't cut Bolt but i'd probably replace Sudden Shock. When do you need the Split Second from Sudden Shock?

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Currently building Lantern Control

As soon as I start my new job I'm gonna finish it, and no I'm not planning on running 4 TS

>>49837302

Why do people think SFM is going to be whites saviour

The card enables batterskull. that's all it does. it gives you essentially a keyword eldrazi. it's the least white of powerful white cards because traditionally equipment care about your dudes, but batterskull breaks that entirely.

Yeah it'll make people run more sources of white, but it by no means makes white better. It makes batterskull cheaper. You run one white source to win with a colorless card.

>>49837478
Infect.

>>49837560
>sun droplet
>welding jar
>nature's claim and ancient grudge main
for what purpose
also lantern control is dank, props

>>49837561
>Why do people think SFM is going to be whites saviour
The thing White lacks that Green has is a two mana beater. On top of that SFM is better than Goyf for a lot of decks because it enables an equipment toolbox that plays really well with Lingering Souls, Geist of Saint Traft, and white hatebears.

>>49837561
>How would a white card make white better?
>People would just run white to play the white creature
>That doesn't mean people would playing white

Shitposting aside I don't follow your logic that people running a white card doesn't make white stronger

>MTGS made a new thread to discuss the state of Modern as a format
>guy comes in and says Modern is in a great place
>signature: RG Tron

Every time. You literally can't take Tron and Merfolk players seriously, they are the Brazil of Modern.

>>49837561

>Infect

Okay that's a fair call but you've got a crapload of removal already that I didn't think you'd have such a problem against it. I'd think you would be better off bringing in Spellskite(s) in most cases unless budget is an issue then sure keep the Sudden Shocks. I would definitely cut Thalia's Lieutenant unless you're all in on the Humans plan. Mentor of the Meek is a little weak at CMC 3, there's more powerful stuff like Fiend Hunter that would.

>>49837580
There are just the cards I have accrued so far for the deck. What you mentioned are all sideboard of course.

>>49837750
I figured as such but they were just in the middle of the deck so I wrongly assumed they were main
Are you going to run Inventor's Fair? Seems great in the deck

>>49836925
the cards I like the least there are hero of bladehold and mentor of the meek. you are a pretty aggressive deck so why would you need conditional card draw? hero is expensive and not impactful when it hits the board. purphoros at least has protection. I understand your argument for boardwipes and that might be why youre running them but modern is very aggressive and most of the time youre going to be racing. I suggest going more aggressive with serra ascendant, ajani's pridemate, or spectral procession. hero and mentor might have a spot on the sideboard. just my two cents

>>49837660

It's not about people simply playing white I guess. At least, to me.

It's like saying black was good when they ran hexmage/dark depths. It's like yeah, you're literally playing the color, but it kind of circumvents what the color actually does or wants to do.

I guess what I'm getting at is that stoneforge is an unfair card, and comparisons to goyf are bad because goyf is fair. It abuses living weapon to make it an instant powerful (evasive) creature tutor, not an equipment tutor.

Do you see where I'm coming from at least?

>>49837733
I play tron and couldn't disagree with him more

>>49837741

I'm not him senpai ive just had success with sudden shock vs infect before. Although I'm sure he will appreciate the reply

>>49837272
>give other colors goyf equivalents
>now Jund runs 12 goyfs

This is why one-drops are such a problem. There's this idea that every color needs good one-drops to be competitive, except one-drops require such minimal investment and fetchlands exist.
It's half the reason White and Blue will never get new, mainboard instants and remain eternally shit.

>>49837797
Goyf isn't fair, it's boring.

SFM would be played even without Batterskull.

>>49837741

Thalia's Lieutenant and Mentor seems weak but it capitalizes on Genesis Chamber+Norin so hard. Lieutenant is an anthem on a stick and a decent beater, while Mentor is a card draw engine in a deck with 16 1 drops, is also a human and can trigger multiple times due to Norin.

>>49837788
Hero is Human, good on her own, and can end games on her own, triggers all the juicy ETB triggers by herself. I didnt play cards like Ajani or Ascendant because they'd fit more in traditional Mino white Soul sisters than Norin Sisters.

>>49837840
>SFM would be played even without Batterskull
I don't think so. We don't want to play Swords (or any other equipment) as-is. She will come down and get shot and you have an equipment in your hand where it will most likely do nothing as your face gets beat in.

Abzan/Jund might want it, but I don't see any good card to cut for Stoneforge.

>>49837272
snapcaster is pretty amazing

>>49834531
>>49837560
Inventors fair is cool in lantern, same as the BG fastland. I would almost consider that new land in place of an acedemy in decks that would run 2. Collective brutality is also amazing mainboard as 1-2 copies.

>>49837840

>goyf isn't fair, it's boring
Why can't it be both? Goyf is fair by the strictest definition. It's just above curve for most of the game, if your deck is cut out for the long game.

>SFM would be played even without batterskull
Perhaps, but not in anything that matters.

>>49837872

>Thalia's Lieutenant and Mentor seems weak but it capitalizes on Genesis Chamber+Norin so hard.

If you want to draw your entire deck Quicksmith Genius does it for 0 mana by looting effect if you wish to abuse the Genesis Chamber+Norin line for the same mana CMC and is also Human. Don't try and do too many things in your deck at once, there will be times when certain matchups will put you on the clock from turn 1 that you won't be able to stop.

>>49837905
Snapcaster is the reason blue isn't allowed anything new they can abuse with him.

>>49837829
This is a format where if you don't have a one mana play, there's a small chance you die on turn 2, and if you don't have a turn 2 play, you are looking fairly dead on the draw. One of the greatest things about cards like Collective Brutality is that for a 2 mana sorc you relieve a ton of pressure. It doesn't give card disadvantage either which is sweet, since you need card advantange for the midgame but you also need early tempo plays vs aggro: the format.

>>49837967
>Don't try and do too many things in your deck at once

This is one of the most important things to learn if you want to brew. You might like cool things, and you're making a deck, but if your deck is too busy and you try and fit all your cool stuff you just shoot your variance through the roof unless every single card is self-sufficient.

Try not to have any more than one card that reads "dead unless you have something else". Twin is a good example of this, even splinter twin had use if you dropped it on a snapcaster and exarch was a decent blocker. This is also primarily why not much more than 2 card combos make it in modern, and the only ones that do have pieces that operate decently on their own (see: melira finks)

>>49838049

STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT COLLECTIVE BRUTALITY JESUS I HAVENT BOUGHT MY PLAYSET IN PAPER YET OKAY I ONLY HAVE MY ONE FROM THE PRERELEASE

the price is going up and yes I'm fucking mad about it

>>49838084
Just pay your fucking $20 for your remaining three copies and call it a day. Worst case, $5 shipping.

>>49837797
No, because you are objectively incorrect. No memespeak or anything. If a card, and therefore that cards colour, has a stronger presence in the meta game than the colour itself is stronger in the format. It's like saying the tiers are wrong because you think a certain deck is more Powerful than another. Your personal definition does not come into count.

>>49838211

I'm not that guy you were replying to but you're clearly being both a faggot and a retard

I really like the standard Aetherworks deck and wanted to try something in modern. It is kind of a shitbrew but I've played against meta decks and won with some regularity. It loses to sideboard pretty hard if I don't get the answers from my board, also architect of the untamed sucks but idk what to do if someone gimps aetherworks with something like a surgical extraction or shit like that. Here's the list let me know why it's bad
4x Aether Hub
4x Aetherworks Marvel
2x Blightsteel Colossus
4x Breeding Pool
3x Chromatic Sphere
3x Chromatic Star
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Elixir of Immortality
1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2x Forest
2x Gemstone Mine
1x Ghost Quarter
3x Glassblower's Puzzleknot
3x Island
4x Misty Rainforest
3x See the Unwritten
3x Serum Visions
4x Sundering Titan
3x Telling Time
1x Temple Garden
4x Wall of Roots
3x Woodweaver's Puzzleknot

Sideboard
1x All Is Dust
3x Architect of the Untamed
1x Iona, Shield of Emeria
3x Leyline of Sanctity
3x Nature's Claim
3x Path to Exile
1x Rest in Peace

>>49838234
>A colour has a stronger presence and is therefore a stronger colour
>Hurr durr ur a fagut
People like you make this general worse. Stop posting untill you know what the fuck your talking about

>>49838334
Seems gimmicky. Might win an FNM if there isnt strong hate against artifacts though

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WHY IS COLLECTIVE BRUTALITY COMING BACK

>>49838343
It doesn't help that the Frontier threads direct shitposters to here.

>>49838366
What deck are you playing that hates it so much? Also it's back what?

>>49838358
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I haven't played paper magic since I sold out of modern after bloom got banned and it's all been xmage, but I'm thinking of getting back into it now that I've moved cities. I really cannot afford a meta deck nor do I really want to play any of them because I love deck building too much. I own enough of these pieces to make it not that big of a hit I might give it a shot

>>49838334
I don't like the standard deck that much, they basically run a playset of Emmys and a playset of Ulamogs, use some energy mechanics, and cast mechaCoCo, with some 4-5drops here and there to pad down your whiffs. I feel like the card is certainly the fastest energy wincon, but it feels so lame to whiff such a spell. I guess it's not half bad to hit other on-curve spells, but as a wincon I expected a big energy-sink instawin, not a 4cmc 6E Emmy CoCo.

>>49838418
If you set up a turn 4 aetherworks into emmy/ulamog in standard it is an instawin.

>>49838418
by "I really like the standard deck" I of course meant "I really like the aetherworks getting big things idea." running 8 of 2 legendary drazi is boring and would never work in modern I think but sundering titan gimps things hard and elesh hits decks that go wide. I'm having fun with it anyways

>>49838366
>disfiguing blighted agent and duressing become immense
card is nice

>>49838438
>>49838432

I mean it's really efficient, it's just not the wincon for me. Was expecting pay shitton of energy, blow up a player.

I think the deck would work best as a hardcombo with Emmy. It casts the card, unlike many other cheat into play cards, so you'll get the extra turn and whatnot.
Maybe if you could pay 6+X energy to look at 6+X cards I would be happier, I just hate that it's a CoCo. The more big goobers you add to the deck, the higher the CoCo chance is, but then you are stuck with uncastable goobers in hand.


I think it could work in Modern, it's quite fast. multiple Emmys in openers, and hitting only lands and energy spells with Aetherworks Mahvel? nty.

I don't even know why anybody here cares about "which color is the best". It's the most useless discussion in the world. It's as useless as waifu wars or bronies talking about which pony is more fuckable.

Who gives a fuck. If you're playing Modern or Legacy and still care about color power levels you need to fucking leave because that is the sort of talk for Limited or Standard where there are some amateurs might care. Each color is fucking bananas here.

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>>49838562
niceme.me

>>49838562
>Each color is fucking bananas here.
lol nice one. White is shit and blue isn't that much farther ahead.

>>49838334

I would shelf the deck for now and see if Aether Revolt brings in some better energy related cards. Right now there aren't too many things outside of Kaladesh that really work with energy other than Proliferate.

>>49838664
yeah I'm hoping energy gets more shit to do in revolt mostly because I don't want to have to fold to a lost legacy post board

>>49838685

To be fair and I do not mean any offence but what you've more or less done is make a worse version of a Gifts Ungiven deck. But still don't let that dissuade you from brewing into a different line or plan and there's no reason why you might not be able to run both if you have a gameplan against the higher tier decks in the format once the cards from Aether Revolt come out.

>>49838562
Well excuse me for wanting my KTK Windswept Hearths to sell for the same as a fucking Wooded Foothills.

But yeah, fuck people who like certain colors. I play Affinity anyway.

>>49838685
Something tells me you won't have to worry about that.

Havent played Modern since Dragons of Tarkir. The only deck I have is this one from mtggoldfish. Not exactly sure what to update from the new sets. I want to keep it BW as much as possible, I know green gives me access to voice and abzan ascension, but Im kind of tight right now.

4x Viscera Seer
4x Blood Artist
4x Bloodthrone Vampire
4x Kalastria Highborn
4x Gatekeeper of Malakir
4x Geralf's Messenger
3x Pawn of Ulamog
1x Cartel Aristocrat

4x Path to Exile
4x Rally the Ancestors
3x Return to the Ranks

4x Polluted Delta
4x Godless Shrine
4x Isolated Chapel
1x Vault of the Archangel
8x Swamp

>>49837797
>I guess what I'm getting at is that stoneforge is an unfair card, and comparisons to goyf are bad because goyf is fair. It abuses living weapon to make it an instant powerful (evasive) creature tutor, not an equipment tutor.


You're right, instead we should just continue playing 2 mana 4/5s, turn 4 Primetimes for lethal, and turn 4 8/1s with flying and lifelink.

You're allowed to do strong things in Modern.

>>49837797
I disagree with your comparison to dark depths. Equipment matters is clearly in white's color pie, with cards like stone haven outfitter, kor duelist, and obviously stoneforge herself. It complements the white weenie playstyle, you need creatures for your equipment so having lots of small creatures and strong equipment lets you still use your equipment in the face of targeted removal. In comparison, nothing about either vampire hexmage is particularly black.
If batterskull is broken with SFM, ban batterskull. There will still be T1 artifact decks without it, why should white have to eat the ban when it's already garbage in modern?

Wizards said that the only reason they don't want to unban SFM is because it limits their design choice for equipment in the future which doesn't really matter anyway because all the equipment they've released in recent sets are shit anyway so they don't know what the fuck they're doing(see Eldrazi).

Believe it or not so many decks are already "prepared" for SFM+Batterskull combo by default anyway that it wouldn't even be a significant issue because two most relevant pieces of equipment to ever fetch is Batterskull and Umezawa's Jitte and Jitte is already banned(and rightfully so). SFM+Swords of X and Y are still strong alternative lines and are perfectly acceptable powerwise for the format.

>>49839681
>wizards won't even print standard playable equipment
>talks about being limited by SFM
at least the pod argument had merit because creatures are actually being pushed, this is just a load of horseshit

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R8 my UWR Flash brew, /tg/.

Creatures:
4 Snapcaster Mage
2 Vendilion Clique
3 Restoration Angel
2 Torrential Gearhulk

Instants:
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile
1 Spell Snare
4 Remand
4 Lightning Helix
3 Electrolyze
4 Cryptic Command

Lands:
4 Celestial Colonnade
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Steam Vents
1 Sacred Foundry
3 Island
1 Plains
1 Mountain
1 Sulfur Falls
2 Ghost Quarter

SB:
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Dispel
1 Celestial Purge
1 Negate
1 Wear // Tear
1 Counterflux
1 Izzet Staticaster
2 Supreme Verdict
1 Gideon Jura
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion

>>49839689
you forgot
>then makes a sword that lets you repeat sfm times how many opponents you have in commander
wotc has a funny idea of balance

>>49839689

The only decent equipment that was printed recently to be considered strong enough for Constructed play was Captain's Claws and Stoneforge Masterwork. Neither see any constructed play in Standard right now and don't even see play in Modern even in the Tribal decks for the format that show up(Elves, Merfolk, Slivers, Allies, ELDRAZI, maybe Spirits?)

>>49839716
captains claws is fun in kitchen table, stoneforge masterwork is only good in my white black humans deck in magic duels, where are the equipment that want siguardas blessing?

>>49839749
Wizards probably didn't want to make good equipment recently since vehicles is supposed to be 'fixed' equipment

>>49839759
a 3/3 flying looter that dodges removal for 2 is fixed equipment?

>>49837765
As opposed to sea gate wreckage? Of course.

>>49839759

If anything it's just Living Weapon that can't have equipment stuck to them for long!

>>49839788
Well I mean the broken equipment deck was Cawblade so by comparison they're doing ok

>>49839446
Imho;
+4 Zulaport Cutthroat
+1 Lilly, Heritical Healer
+1 Athreos

Cut gatekeepers, and 2 of messengers or bloodthornes

-4x Kalastria Highborn
+4 Doomed Traveller

-3 Pawn of Ulamog
+3 Cartel Aristocrat

Carrier Thrall is a good card, I would almost run 4.
Same as Hangerback Walker, albeit the mana from Thrall is quite nice and Walker has downsides (and upsides too, he's a slow wincon)

Westvale Abbey is a good land to have

Smothering Abomination is cool sb tech

>>49839825
>looter scooter is based off of a hawk with fire and ice attached
shouldnt it be like a 3 cost then?

>>49839981
No I just mean in comparison it's 'fixed'

>>49839702
I'd go one less Electrolyze and one more Snare. I can see why you'd want lots for Gearhulk, but I suggest trimming a Resto for an Ojutai's Command. I wanna see that with Gearhulk.
Also, Wall of Omens isn't half bad in the 75

>>49839972
I'd go 2 Thrull 2 Sultai Emisary, and 1 Hangarback. Manifest is op with rally.

Help me out with this brew please.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-07-16-rw-tokens/

Changes I've made but not updated.
-1 phyrexian arena
-2 raise the alarm
-2 mentor
-1 k command

+2 painful truths
+2 Gideon ally of zendikar
+1 shambling vents
+1 removal/land

Matchups have been pretty good desu. Infect/affinity are pretty ez matches. Merfolk can be tricky but I usually win.
Jund/junk is just a top deck war. They usually win due to multiple Goyfs landing.
Bad matchups are some control games and combo.

I've considered adding kalitas just as a big beater but maybe hero of blade hold could be better. Dropped the mentor because young p is faster and by the time I drop mentor I'm either already ahead or too far behind traded him for more board presence (Gideon).

Sideboard is just good stuff crumble to dust, rip, stony silence etc.

I know I could play jund and win more but I want to be a special snowflake so help me out here. Thanks lads.

>>49839972

Arent Pawns alright since they virtually trigger artist? Also wow they actually printed legitimate blood artists 5-8.

Also is traveler really better than Gravecrawler?

>>49840116
this list looks like it can jam in two smugglers copters in it. I was thinking captains claws at first but that 3 damage in the air is real and looting could replace your removed draw engine. Also it becomes a 4/4 with gideon

>>49840068
I started with three Electrolyze because the deck needs cantrips to make it's land drops and having a critical mass of burn spells helps you race people.

Ojutai's Command looks really strong with Gearhulk. Its most powerful mode is the Rez, which would play really well with Wall of Omens. The Resto/Wall deck is an existing shell that's usually just UW with no red, and I think I'll look into playing Gearhulk in that. EoT Gearhulk to hit Ojutai's and draw a card or gain 4 and return Wall seems really gross. Unfair MUs will probably suffer because you can't apply pressure as well, but I think if you can beat Jund and aggro you're doing alright.

One thing I'm uncertain about is Remand vs Mana Leak vs some split of other 2 mana counters. I always hated the interaction between Leak and Path, and Remand helps the deck play more smoothly, but sometimes it just feels like a non-card.

>>49840202
An interesting idea.
I replaced phyrexian arena with painful truths though and it's worked out really well.


My main problem is getting help with the mana base. 24 lands were recommended but I was getting flooded almost every game. Dropped it to 20 and it's worked out "okay".

>>49840116
Or maybe I could increase my number of lands and trade gideon for Elspeth.

The advantage of buying gideon now is that he will slot into a standard deck I am brewing.

>>49840227
You need less big "payoff" cards then. If you have nothing to cast or it all feels too situational then you need more modular/versitile cards or you need to get more creative with what your turns can be.

can someone explain that "would a card like this..." meme to me? why is it only the modern general? is it just 1 guy that got destroyed and now salts forever?

>>49841168
Just 1 guy who likes to post shit cards and derail the thread. Ignore him and he'll go away.

>>49841176
No, no he doesn't. When he first starring showing up people would entertain him and it generated some decent discussion. But then he kept posting them and people would just ignore him. Only problem is he got fucking pissed when people did and went on rants about how he was the only one trying to fix modern and nobody was listening to him. After that is when people would respond to his stupid shitposts with more shitposts, but at least now he knows everybody hates him. Could be worse. He could be the rev for 15 guy, or the "modern super friends" guy, whom I'm convinced were the same person

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Would a card like this see play in any modern deck?

So I saw a little while ago a storm deck with the madcap-platinum emperion package in the sideboard do well in a tournament, have any other deck lists using it poped up or is it actually shit?

>>49841425
>2 mana colorless gain five life and cycle itself and get a 1/2
>has other options

Obviously broken

Kill yourself retard

>>49841258
I actually had an esper control opponent rev for 15 in a very long game the other day. He ended up losing by decking himself.

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>>49841449
But the body itself is very bad for a modern creature and would likely just be a chump blocker at best. That said, does a card like this seem good for countering burn?

>>49841449

Ignore him
People were talking about him and he started posting again

>>49841446

wew that seems nasty when it's coming from storm. I assume the emperion was a 1of, but how many experiments did he run? did he replace EtW with it?

>>49841566
He had 4 madcaps and an emperion in the board, I can't seem to find the deck list now. It was such a weird list, had a single copy of gifts ungiven main board too. It was 7th at some SCG event.

>>49841649

>running 4 madcaps when everything after the first is a dud
wew lad

>>49841649
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=108138

He got 4th and it was 2 emperions

>>49841664
Thanks, apparently my memory is pretty bad

>>49841508
>1 Mana
>Recycles itself
I mean yeah it's basically just a weaker fog I guess

>>49842036

Ignore that fucker.

>>49841446
It was a gifts ungiven list, I can't remember which tourney but I know what you're talking about, it was on MTG Goldfish. Wish I could help more

>>49837330
Seems pretty good, did anguished unmaking get you anywhere?

i've passed thise days wondering about a Nourishing-Ascendant deck. white/green and maybe red.
it can work ?
by now on the list is this:
what can i add?
4 serra ascendant
2 selfless spirit
4 worldspine wurm
2 krosan cloudscraper

4 apostle's blessing
4 feed the clan
2 mutagenic growth
4 nurishing shoam

Modern Nahiri:

4x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Thoughtseize
4x Path to Exile
4x Lightning Bolt
1x Slaughter Pact

4x Wall of Omens
3x Dark Confidant
2x Lightning Helix

4x Lingering Souls
3x Liliana of the Veil

4x Nahiri, the Harbinger

1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

4x Bloodstained Mire
3x Polluted Delta
2x Flooded Strand
2x Blood Crypt
1x Godless Shrine
1x Sacred Foundry
4x Shambling Vent
1x Inspiring Vantage
2x Swamp
1x Plains
1x Mountain

Sideboard
1x Wrath of God
1x Lost Legacy
1x Kambal, Consul of Allocation
1x Elspeth, Sun's Champion
2x Ghostly Prison
3x Rest in Peace
2x Timely Reinforcements
2x Crackling Doom
2x Stony Silence

>>49843267
>wall without resto
Bad monkey

>>49842060
not that anon but that card isn't even good

if it stopped you from receiving combat damage, then maybe

>>49837330
>Esper draw-go
>Maindecking a proactive spell
>To escalate it, you have to lose card advantage
Just no

>>49844271

Since when is trading 2-for-2 losing card advantage?

I've been playing this weird list that a guy at my shop made and went X-0 with against every meta deck at the time, which included bloom titan. I've been playing it lately and it's a fucking blast.
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11178&d=263546&f=MO
So the main plan is to mill yourself with halimar excavator until you get to the point where you have enough clone creatures in your grave to return to ranks enough creatures to mill your opponent. I think the requirements are 7 allies to do this, combined across your grave and play (they guy at my shop put a ton of math into this, I don't remember it all) and then just mill them like crazy. Your secondary option is to just beat them down with Hada Freeblade and Mirror Entity. Really fun list, try it if you get the chance. Pretty consistent too, the guy at my shop was going off turns 2-4

>>49844318
They will always have more threaths than you have answers.

>>49844406

rule of modern control right there

>>49844229

it has nothing to do with the customcardfags cards being good or bad. stop commenting on them.

>>49844271

>lose card advantage
>being up cards
>trading 2 for 2
>still up cards

????????

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Why don't Burn decks make more use of this card? It's not like you need more than three lands anyway past the third turn.

>>49845231
Why would you want a Mountain that destroys itself after three uses ?

>>49845266
Because it can cast Atarka's Command?

>>49845316
>>49845231
>What is Wild Nactl
>What is the occasional late game

>>49845361
Wild nacatl is a terrible card in burn. Only idiots run it

>>49845361
I thought Wild Nacatl was the noob choice. Has that shit stuck?

>>49845385
Yes

>>49845361
>late game
>Burn
I'm guessing you don't play much Burn. If you do, then you would know you're drawing more land than you needed anyway.

>>49845316
>Atarka's Command
Why ?
>>49845361
>Wild Nactl
Why ?

This is Burn, not Jund or whatever the flag RG(x) deck is

>>49845375
>>49845385
Nacatl is the card that let's you get around hate like Leyline of Sanctity. And let's you cheese t3 wins with 3 creatures + Atarkas Command.

It's really good, and pretty much every Burn list has been running them for a while.

>>49845412
yikes

>>49845417
Have fun losing to top deck kitties
>leyline
Yea better whatch out for that card everyone is playing

>>49845448
>>49845425
>>49845412
>>49845398
>>49845385
>>49845375
/tg/ is so bad at magic it hurts.

>>49845523
>every top player that plays naya burn runs the card
>hurr durr /tg/ is bad at magic
nice one retard

>>49845523
>RDW shouldn't run a green card
>/tg/ is so bad at magic it hurts.

Is 4x Boros Charm and 4x Atarka's Command not the staple of every (competitive)Burn deck now?

I was genuinely interested in the discussion on Natcatl vs No Kitty

>>49845632
>Nacatl is Green
>Just like Merfolk is a Blue deck.

>>49845632
>RDW
See, there's the fucking problem, he said BURN not RDW
Burn can mean lots of things, for instance, Naya Burn, which runs GREEN IN IT.

>>49845616
I'm not even sure what this post means, are you saying I'm retarded for defending Wild Nactl? I honestly don't even think you speak English.

>>49845687
>I honestly don't even think you speak English.
clearly you don't if your reading comprehension is so fucking awful you can't read the post you're quoting
You're retarded because you quote contradicting posts and then act like everyone said the same thing, which they didn't
fuck outta here you dumb cunt

>>49845687
>Burn can mean lots of things, for instance, Naya Burn, which runs GREEN IN IT.
Forgot about Naya Burn, doesn't exist in my meta

>>49845687
I know it's cool to get specific but Jesus I just wanted to discuss the current "get them to 0 as fast as possible Red deck" making use of Gemstone Mine.

Yes, it's a subpar choice if you're running Nacatl, but is not running the car the subpar deck?

>>49845726
Which post did I quote that supported Wild Nactl? That all seem to be pretty against it.
Fuck off.

>>49845740
>best version of Burn doesn't exist

What,the Hell he'll is wrong with those burn players? Are there just zero burn players?

>>49845751
*cat

>>49845751
Listen, in my Meta the fastest deck that takes people from 20 to 0 is Naya. That's all I'm saying, I'm not saying it's a bad choice in every red deck, just in Naya.

>>49845740
Fair, if it isn't present in your meta I can understand forgetting it exists.

>>49845786
Just in Naya period, or Naya running Nacatl?

>>49845752
this >>49845425 which is making fun of someone for saying nacatl is bad, which is defending nacatl
lick my nuts you swamp donkey

>>49845812
Naya running Nactl, or any delve card (such as become immense decks)

>>49845816
K.

>>49845751
Okay, let's think
>Red deck running Gemstone Mine
So it's basically a Mountain that self-destruct after three use
>Let's use it to cast other color's card, like Wild Nacatl
1) It's not a Red deck anymore
2) You can't cast the cat anymore unless you have one of your 4 Mine in play
3) Red deck, so you can't boost Nacatl because you only have Mountains and Mines
My conclusion : Don't play Gemstone Mine unless you're already in more than one color

>>49845768
Yes

>>49845816
>making fun of someone for saying nacatl is bad
I'm the someone he tried making fun of and I wasn't saying Nacatl is bad

>>49845847
>I'm the someone he tried making fun of and I wasn't saying Nacatl is bad
No you weren't because that was my own post
Nice try faglord

>>49845866
Try again

This
>>49845412
>>Wild Nactl
>Why ?
is me

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>>49845882
have a (you)

>>49845751
You can't fetch Gemstone. That's the only reason I don't run it.

>>49845919
>>49845866
>>49845816
You're giving the thread cancer.

I don't remember the last time I've played a burn that didn't splash green for nacatl and destructive revelry desu

>>49845847
It wasn't that long ago Naya decks were running 4x Atarka'a Command and Boros Charm with no Nacatls. Plus Wear//Tear and Ancient Grudge in the side. Suddenly you have a use for more than one color. When has Tier 1 Burn in modern been Monored?

>>49845943
>When has Tier 1 Burn in modern been Monored?
Never, let's just get that out of the way right now.

>>49845938
Look where you are, retards are seriously discussing running nacatl in burn like its some overrated card

>>49845991
/tg/ really is bad at magic, and it's sad.

>>49846006
I never got why, it's not like other games on here aren't full of good players. The only decent place I've found to talk about the game is the fucking Xmage Discord. Salvation is alright but I'm not autistic enough to post there constantly

Now that I think about it, Red is absent from my local meta, apart from my RG Tron

What's your meta underplayed color ?

>>49825778

Modern General pls help, I wanna play modern and I am broke as fuck.

I mixed regular zoo things with some other shit for fun/cheap and am wondering what you think.

I like the idea of zoo but I feel like cloudfin raptor and some of the energy creatures could be thrown in to good effect.

https://deckstats.net/deck-11417287-328d7a98397b283b45b7029e85bce595.html

>>49846041
I dunno either, and also the guys on salvation can be even worse than these faggots sometimes.
I'll have to check out the Discord sometime if I can.

>>49846101
Blue, shockingly enough.

>>49846118
Shit, I just noticed I put in dreadbore without any consistent source of black, please ignore it.

>>49846144
>https://deckstats.net/deck-11417287-328d7a98397b283b45b7029e85bce595.html
Okay, so cut blue entirely, cut the aether hubs too, cut the energy creatures, and it's off to an okay start.
Now, you said your poor, so maybe grab some lava spikes, and if you can manage it a playset of rift bolts.
That's a decent start, and at least you got Loam Lion, Kird Ape, Nactl, and Steppe Lynx right.

>>49846229
Thanks for the advice, rift bolt and lava spike are both cheap so thats cool.

Also, why cut blue? It's pretty easy to keep consistent with fetch+shock and the cloudfin raptor is pretty stronk, also wouldn't it open up potential to throw in good blue stuff?

>>49845686
No amount of meme speak will change the fact that merfolk is blue

>>49846331
If you want to play good blue stuff, play good blue stuff, raptor isn't actually stronk at all.
Also, maybe play become immense and temur battle rage.

>>49846445
Read: just play Infect

>>49846468
>Infect
>Temur Battle Rage
Wut?

>>49846331

not the first anon...

you currently have the common issue of having too much different shit in your deck. drawing your blue creatures in later turns is terrible and they're mostly good on your opening hand where they are still worse than dropping nacatl. energy creatures like the longtusk cub might sound good on paper but think about it in an actual scenario and how much your 2 mana creature has to live through in order to do more than a simple lightning bolt.

the #1 go-to blue creature for value in aggression should be delver, which your deck can't utilize at all. really might as well cut the colour.

Anyone been playing suicide bloo?
shit's flown under my radar but it seems very real

>>49846445
>>49846593

Ok thanks guys I'll cut it out. How about burning-tree emissary? It's pretty nice.

バンプ

>>49847571
Yeah, and Reckless Bushwhacker

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>The only way to win in a solved format is to pay more money than your opponent.

Modern fags will eat WotC shit any chance they get

You don't even have any sponsored tournaments anymore.

Been brewing with Metalwork Colossus, any ideas?

4 Treasure Mage
4 Metalwork Colossus

2 March of the Machines

4 Fabricate

1 Key to the City
4 Lightning Greaves
2 Wildfield Borderpost
4 Fieldmist Borderpost
4 Mistvein Borderpost
4 Veinfire Borderpost
4 Firewild Borderpost
4 Tooth of Chiss-Goria
4 Scale of Chiss-Goria

11 Island
4 Sanctum of Ugin

Pretty consistent at dropping one or more colossus at turn 3 and even turn 2 with the god draw.

Dunno if March of the Machines is a good backup, maybe going UB and running a couple of Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas is better.

>>49850118
why not run this in a restore balance package? most of the cards you're playing avoid being cascaded into and it'd give the deck resilience

>>49850118
>>49850148
Saw a deck like this the other day. The mana rocks lower the cost of metalwork colossus while restore balance prevents your opponent from casting anything.

>>49851483
the problem with colossus is that it lacks haste or trample or any form of protection. At least in regular restore balance you can suspend your garagadons and pull them in when you want to, and they gain haste when they come off suspend. here, colossus has to wait a turn to do anything, which wouldn't be a problem if path didn't exist. you'd lack gargadon which means you wouldn't wipe enemy lands which means it's a lot easier for them to deal with colossus, not even considering that by keeping a card in your hand you let your opponent keep a card. I can see colossus working in conjunction with a regular balance deck but not this as is.

Speaking of nacatls anyone here ever try counter cat?
for the delverfriends here, the deck's pretty fun i recommend giving it a shot

>>49851893
hey brian didn't know you posted here

>>49851934
more like jordan boisvert desu

>>49851934

fuck off man i post here like every day
im probably not the brian youre thinking of tho

>>49850036
GP's and SCG tourney's still.

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>>49825943
does this work?

>>49852066
A friend of mine said you stole hundreds of dollars in cards/gas money from him. What's the deal with that?
also, your modern nexus profile pic is pretty cute.

I'm just getting ready to make the jump into modern and want some input for my first "real" deck. Specifically if I should look at Remand, get rid of Sphinx's Tutelage, and if I have better options than Military Intel. Be gentle /tg/

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/unreal-tutelage/

>>49852198
just play merfolk

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>>49852163
build your deck around this

How do you guys feel about tier 3 combo decks? I have been playing a ton of Four Color Ascendancy Gifts and it has turned my life around.

Thoughts on the list?

Creatures
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Sylvan Caryatid
2x Fatestitcher
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Iona, Shield of Emeria

Spells
4x Serum Visions
3x Sleight of Hand
1x Faithless Looting
4x Path to Exile
3x Izzet Charm

4x Jeskai Ascendancy
4x Gifts Ungiven
1x Flame Jab
1x Life From the Loam
1x Unburial Rites

22x Lands

>>49852217

Merfolk are twice the price as well. Once I get a set of vials I might consider building into merfolk, but not right now. This also teaches me how to pilot the deck without locking myself into one deck.

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How does wings of velis vel interact with tarmogoyf?
Does it change anything at all?

>>49852613
I'm not answering that. Because you, like all the other people asking stupid shit about situations that will never happen, aren't asking to learn anything.

Fuck off.

>>49852660
this should be in the op

>>49852613

Tarmogoyf becomes a 4/4. Base power/toughness is applied in what are called "layers" where order of application matters. Read more here: http://test.italianmagicjudges.net/wiki/index.php?title=Power_and_toughness_modifiers#Setting_base_power_and_toughness

>>49852660
With the increase in decks wanting delirium it wouldn't be unheard of.

>>49853056
But neither junk or jund are blue
>muh RUG deck
($$$ COMPETITIVE $$$)

>>49853090
Wow you need to calm down

>>49853090
Kek rug is the poor persons blue Jund. Play sultai if you hate money

>>49853120
RUG can at least work. Sultai is just fucking terrible

>>49853129
Never said function, it's just easily the most expensive deck in the format. It's like 1 bolt teir card away from being insane but that'll never happen

>>49853170
Every deck is pretty much 1 bolt tier card from being insane. Bolt is the best card in the format.