What is the worst model in the entire current GW range?What is the best?
>>49817669
The old gargoyle in Heroquest is the best. The new gargoyle is rubbish.
>>49817669
Minotaurs look like shit. New Raptors/Warp Talons are beauty itself
You better not be talking shit about Pumbaa. Timon can strike from the shadows when you least expect it and trust me, the guy will fuck you up.
Worst model: the AoS Fyreslayers. At least it looks like they tried with that Razorgor in terms of giving it detail. The Fyreslayers are just shameless copypasting design wise.
Best model: pic (though not sure if FW counts here though they are part of GW's current range.) Most badass Daemon Engine design with a very simple yet creative idea of a giant fucking scorpion robodaemon armed to the brim with powerful weapons.
>>49817669
Sororitas Dialogus, hands down the worst.
As for the best? I'd say Nagash, he's a bitch to paint and assemble, and can only be in one pose, but goddamn does he look fabulousm
>>49819936
>New Raptors/Warp Talons are beauty itself
i couldnt fucking disagree more
>>49817669
oh look the beast of gevaudan
>>49822070
So could a lot of people if this thread kicked off. It asks about subjective, aesthetic based opinions.
Mutilators are the worst i can think of. My favorite is prolly the fw biker warboss. If only gw then maybe the new flashgitz
Worst? I'm not sure, but the old Sisters models are up there, coming from a sistersfag.
Best is probably the Great Brass Scorpion if FW is included, or the Sydonian Dragoon if it isn't.
>>49820137
God that thing looks awful
>>49817669
Best:Green Knig-
>current range
well
>>49817669
You know, if it weren't for the shitty mace-tail I would actually sort of like this model.
I have no idea why it would be in any army, but as a generic monster, eh, why not.
>>49817669
Why limiting to GW? There is a whole world of miniatures out there..
>>49817669
This guy is bloody ridiculous. Whoever sculpted that and approved it should be fired
DE Scourges a best
>>49817669
This guy is pretty bad.
>>49820137
But muh spikes muh mutations muh fleshy bits
>>49817669
Worst: Chaos Obliterators, or the spooky Halloween decoration bats Vampire counts get.
Best: Harlequin Shadowseer or any of the Imperial Assassins.
>>49825745
Too bad that the concept is great. That model just needs less retarded face and no homo body.
>>49817669
Worst: Dark Elf Executioners. Or whatever they are called now. The new models are so fucking shit.
Best: is the new azhag model. orruk warboss on wyvern or whatever they call it.
>>49817669
Worst? Space Marine Centurion. It's the trifecta of bad concept, bad execution, and bad thematically for the marquee army of the 40k range.
Best? That's harder, because there's a lot to love in the GW catalog and context matters. I'll stick to 40k even though the fantasy minis are excellent. I'm also intentionally skipping characters and huge monsters/vehicles because IMO this is a wargame and the most important part of an army is its core troopers. So getting them right is important even if they don't get a lot of love from reviewers/critics.
I'd say the Eldar Dire Avengers. They're pretty, the fit with the army concept is perfect, they look great as a backbone unit, and the multi-pose means you can have a lot and they still all look unique and cool. Customizeable, with lots of options. Highly detailed, but not over-wrought like some of the other new stuff. Clean lines without being overly simplistic.
If I didn't think modern GW would fuck it up, I'd be still at the edge of my seat wondering when we'd see plastic aspect warriors. In fact, if you made them all compatible, people could make their own Autarks. Instead, we have the same old resin crap.
Runners up: the new Stormtroopers are very nice and fit well. The Armageddon Steel Legion looks fantastic, even the basic soldiers. The Dark Eldar Reaver Jetbikes. The basic Tau infantry look very good-- fire warriors and pathfinders; they're kind of a What Might Have Been for a lot of IG. But none really pop to me like Dire Avengers.
Dont know about current, but some of the skaven clan eshin look really dumb.
That said: My hellp pit abomination is fucking rad. I love the look.
Anyone else like the Canoptek Tomb Spider?
>>49826251
For their time they're fine, and they're meant as window dressing anyway.
To me, the ultimate shitty unit is a must-have core unit that you'll have a million of. It should be covered in distracting bling, not be terribly inspired, can't be posed, prone to breakage, and change the nature of the army in a way that doesn't fit its theme.
>>49826276
Not a fan of it myself, but it isn't terrible. And it isn't so bad that it hurts my opinion of the Necrons in general. Personally, I've gone more towards the Tyracrons approach. Or, perhaps, doing tomb scorpions:
http://spikeybits.com/2014/06/canoptek-scorpion-conversion.html
This also has the virtue of being cheaper than buying three Spyders.
>>49819936
Old Raptors with the talons looked better. The even older ones with the wing-shaped jump packs were neat as well. The new ones look like spiky assault marines.
>>49820137
The one converted from two Defilers looks better.
>>49819936
>>49822070
>>49826417
They really look more like 31-32k models at most. I think it's better to have the tapered jumpjets, helmets and talons
>>49826251
These and all the other Gary Morley sculpts GW still sells.
>>49817669
Old Clanrats (6th ed). They look like shits without tails, and with tails they're impossible to be put in ranks
>>49826048
>Worst? Space Marine Centurion. It's the trifecta of bad concept, bad execution, and bad thematically for the marquee army of the 40k range.
Agreed. Absolute garbage. I will never buy them for my SM force.
>>49826546
That guy has a lot of awful sculpts under his belt.
What, besides their business model?
>>49826546
The Dais riders, along with a lot of the old Dark Eldar and Elf metals, were Chris Fitzpatrick.
I would say that their plastic minotaurs or Fyreslayers, but that's too mainstream.
So I'm going to say Thranduil from the Hobbit range. That's amateur tier sculpting.
Hey guys, I'm supposed to lithe and graceful.
>>49826587
I'm not even joking i threw 40 of the old garbage clanrats where they belong in the fucking trash the moment i got my hands on the Island of Blood starter set
It was the best hobby moment of my life.
FUCK those pathetic Clanrats, they were never good even for their time. The modern plastic ones, whilst mono-pose shit on them so hard.
For 40k i'd say worst model is easily the Ork Buggy
>>49828665
What's wrong with the Ork buggy? It isn't great but it's fairly flavourful and fits the feel of Ork vehicles.
>>49828716
>What's wrong with the Ork buggy?
It's still being sold with a straight face, for starters.
Look at this fucker.
all that money distilled into a perfect form of shit.
>>49828769
am I the only one who thing dis shit is brutal?
>>49828815
You won't after you see it's price and rules.
Anyway BEST FUCKEN MODEL COMING THROUGH
>>49828716
Literally a mediocre 2nd Ed. model.
Compared to the earlier edition, this is probably the biggest crime towards miniature design.
>>49828769
Are those tanks on the back full of blood?
Speaking of chaos, I hate anything with the new warped flesh/metal aesthetic.
>>49828769
I- I kinda like it, anon. It makes me think of a bigger, chunkier Defiler.
If you don't like the look, Forge World will sell your Lt. Danbot some laigs, though.
>>49828946
Amen Brother.
>>49828851
>price and rules
>actually playing clustertablefuck
>>49828665
Modern clanrats look really bad though. I started Warhammer with IoB and after a while I just eBayed old clanrat boxes to replace the ones from IoB.
>>49828946
The only even REMOTE positive is that there's more clearly a "Thumb" claw on the pincers.
>>49828769
this
KILL MEEEEEE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>49828769
That's souldozer
>>49831278
Nothing about that looks natural.
>>49829965
Just..what? Is this bizzaro /tg/?
Modern clanrats look like rat-men and rank-up perfectly. Job done.
Old shit clanrats look like apes, the tails break constantly and barely rank up
>>49832910
The new ones don't look ratlike at all, they're clean, orderly and boring. They're also not nearly as fun to assemble as the old ones.
>>49832987
I feel like you could dirty them up real nice if you actually had some skill with painting.
>>49833013
They aren't even hairy like a rat should be.
>>49832799
Its widely considered the worst space marine ever made, and the only exclusive miniature the Crimson Fists fans had for a long time.
I'm also the proud owner of one
>>49828769
>he has a mortar for a dick
>there's a snowplow shaped like a huge skull, and the holes in the pattern are filled in with tons of normal-size skulls
Yeah, this is high level self-parody, and that's despite both Fantasy and 40K being pretty deliberately comedic from the very start.
>>49817669
Mutilators.
Archaon the everchosen (when Dorghar was a horse).
>>49817669
>current
Shit, I loved their plastic fellowship models.
>>49828769
Yeah this takes the cake for modern GW mini that's utter shit in concept. Look, I know Khorne has a raging hard on for bones and skulls and brass and the color red, but come on... COME ON.
Although I can see buying one of those, converting a pair of legs for evil Wall-e, and turning that giant ass slaughter tank bottom into a themed baroque looking landraider
>>49820137
Do you find it painful to know that the vast majority of people scrolling past agree with you that this is among the worst models in 40k, without realizing that you intended the opposite?
>>49826251
Doe she have a cat paw for a foot?
>>49828769
That's classic 40k. Awesome.
>>49828898
This is not awesome. Those orks are half the size of the current range of orks.
The skittarii models are beautiful in my opinion.
>>49826048
Agreed!
The funny thing is, I don't hate the centurions in concept. I think the idea of showing what a Terminator suit looks like made with "modern" Imperium tech is not a bad idea. Something that looks big and cumbersome and unwieldy, even compared to a terminator suit.
I just think it should have been something that Inquisition or Imperial Guard get instead. And, you know, not looked like marshmallow man.
>>49828851
Correct. Neat concept, uncluttered, efficient model. Has a sense of motion to him without making the model unbalanced. Distinctive enough to clearly be a leader, while also not being ridiculously over-detailed or blinged up. All in all, lovely.
>>49836114
Also true. Ironically, I think Dorghar Archaon was the high water mark of GW making big, ridiculous character models that still worked. He's a beautiful figure, and while ranking him up was somewhat impractical it wasn't *impossible*.
As has been said many times, he's detailed but clean, has a lot of character, and the rider is still clearly the focus of the model despite the fact that he's mounted on a rearing, snarling demon-horse.
someone say worst model ever? This shit is as bad as claymation
>>49817669
The modular Plastic Demon Prince, he looks like a football player fucked a WOW Raid Boss.
>>49838955
Is that not just a really bad paint job? No seriously, is it the model or the paint, cause it looks like it's just shit painting.
>>49838963
I just want to know why they made the wings so angular? I get that they used CAD to design the piece of junk, but they could have smoothed it out, right?
>>49828946
>90s slaanesh
>gaudy sex , drugs, rock and roll freaks
>2000s slaanesh
>let's drop the color, the drugs and the rock and roll but let's keep some evil leather corsets on these man-faced monsters
what the hell games workshop
>>49838992
Here is one painted by the master duncan
>>49839037
Dafuq? This thing IS a crime against nature
>>49838963
I have one of him, and it honestly looks like he's flipping the bird.
>>49826251
to be fair, the paintjob goes a long way in making those models repulsive, the sculpts, while tasteless, arent that bad, especially for their time
>>49839021
MY TWELVE YEAR OLD SON JUST CAME BACK FROM A "GAMES WORKSHOP" WHERE HE WAS SOLD THESE SATANTIC FIGURES WITHbreasts and nipples and guitarsON THEM AND I HATE THAT AND SO DOES MY SON AND I AM A VOCAL MINORITY WHO IS WILLING TO BITCH ALL THE WAY UP YOUR CORPORATE CHAIN happened. More or less.
>>49839055
I'd still do her
>>49839315
Ahh, so they were just poorly sculpted goggles. I wasn't sure.
>>49838955
>>49839037
Huh. I always thought the wierdness of the face was intentional. As in not making everyone have a chiselled/cool/pretty face, which I feel adds to a setting.
But I guess since folks like yourselves react like what you've just done I can see why they'd avoid making models/characters like that.
Best model: Dreadnoughts.
I dont even play Spess Mureens and I consider them the staple of warhammer miniatures. Only thing more recognizable is the space marine itself.
>>49839438
Worst model: These sad fucks.
Also, most new huge chariot-like models. Theyre way too cluttered and overdone.
Worst Model: Probably the Pumbagor already posted for me. It just looks so fucking stupid and it's monopose as well so if you ever wanted a regiment of them then it just looked terrible.
The Minos from the same range look bad, but honestly I think that was just GW going for "Roid Raging Beastmen" as a look and doing it TOO well, so at least I can say that they did that on purpose.
Oh no wait, I know what model I compeltely despise (although GW don't do it anymore) their Necromantic Werewolf model for Bloodbowl. It looks fucking awful.
Best model?
The Chaos Cruiser Sprue from BattleFleet Gothic.
Yeah I'm biased in that I love pew pew starships, but come on. They're super detailed baroque Star Destroyers, how can anyone not love that?
>>49828946
>>49829000
>>49829998
>>49839021
>>49839294
So much butthurt for not seeing titties anymore.
>>49839801
>The Chaos Cruiser Sprue from BattleFleet Gothic.
>Yeah I'm biased in that I love pew pew starships, but come on. They're super detailed baroque Star Destroyers, how can anyone not love that?
based BFG player
But I'm a little more partial to the imperial ships...dat sexy armored prow purifies and cleanses my trowsers
>ctrl+f
>no wulfen
come on
>>49840575
Apart from that very front "jumping" model, having actually assembled these guys they don't looks so bad when you have them infront of you. But yeah that leaping guy looks awful
>>49828500
This one is probably the worst.
>"Hmm, what's the best idea we can think of for a 'Fiend of Slaanesh'?"
>*snorts cocaine*
>"I know, how about a four-legged tittymonster with antlers, the face of an anteater, giant crab claws, the legs of a horse, and a tail like a giant palm-tree loaded with bananas?! This is the best idea ever!"
So fucking stupid. Why the fuck anybody would ever want to play this shit over Tyrannids is beyond me. It's just a strictly inferior concept and execution for a 40k race.
>>49828946
The faces are fine, daemonettes are supposed to look unsettling.
The real problem is the lack of dynamic poses.
>>49842395Those hind legs are the wrong way round.
>>49840575
DIGGANOBZ
>>49819238
Is it the best bit about Heroquest?
>>49840648
Actually that guy is landing. Yes, the pose is not that good though.
Worst model? Maybe the now finecast vampire bats. They look like sculpted by some teen.
Best model.. thats hard. I think many of the new kits are great. From FW I like the GUO and the decimator, from GW itself the Bloodthirster is one of my favourites, along with the nurgle champion.
>>49825818
>No homo body
What did he mean by this?
>>49844524
>rom GW itself the Bloodthirster is one of my favourites,
Huh, really?
To me it actually felt a step downward from the iconic as all fuck beast headed model we had before.
The new one face looks just generic to me...
>>49842395
I like them
Chaos is supposed to look fucked up, Slaanesh especially
>>49844584
Never liked the original, it always annoyed me that many models in the codex had new plastic versions, yet the greater deamons were realy realy old looking (except the LoC maybe) with their fat hands.
Was fun to paint the new one, except the base, not a fan of the fire, maybe one of the reason I did not put much effort into it.
>>49844793
Well, no accounting taste, I guess.
Great job btw.
>>49838998
>I just want to know why they made the wings so angular? I get that they used CAD to design the piece of junk
I support a business with architects on staff, you know CAD can do curves right? I mean, Revit wouldn't be worth shit if it couldn't do buttressing and such.
>>49839801
>super detailed
Don't get me wrong anon, I love the Chaos models from BFG, that was my jam when the game released, but I have some ranked up with some Firestorm Armada models and they're not super detailed by comparison. Heck, DZC blows them out of the water.
These bland cloned Chaos Warriors that all stand in the exact same pose. The old set was one of the best GW ever made, with almost infinite potential for variation and conversion.
>>49846840
Even when well painted they still arr rook same
>>49846840
Are you talking about the 1998(?) plastic multipart Chaos Warriors? The ones that are some of the bottom 5 models GW has ever produced?
>>49825745
But I like that model...
>>49826251
I like the detail of the captured sister having a dagger hidden behind her back. Shows a kind of defiance against her captures that I think goes a long way in excusing an otherwise terrible subject matter.
>>49847216
>terrible subject matter
>bad things can't happen to women
>uncountable amounts of decapitated human remains are okay though :^)
>>49820137
Vehicles are quite different from other minis imo, but this one is a solid sculpt and has an excellent paintjob.
>>49838963
It's even worse when you compare it to the previous one.
>>49847540
men being murdered is a lot harder to sympathize with
things like rape and sexually suggestive female slavery are never okay subject matter, creeplord
>>49842395
Tasteless faggots. Fiends of Slaanesh ARE Aesthetics.
>>49850490
Agreed. They're sexy as fuck.
>>49836756
Nah.
1. It's /tg/
2. If I cared for popularity of the miniature, far more places love it than hate it including /tg/'s own 1d4chan
>>49848371
>>49838963
GW needs to redo Daemon Princes big time and give them more options to be more unique looking.
>>49839361
I interpreted them as augmetic eyes but w/e
>>49839315
>She will never suck your dick whilst chanting the litanies of the Emperor
>>49850527
A champion of Slaanesh gets a faithful hound, a glorious steed, a harem of sexy crab ladies, and a personal heavy metal band. Each of which are more aesthetic than any mortal could possibly comprehend.
>>49846840
You are kidding right? The plastic warriors before them were a joke, these actually look good. And they aren't doing the marine squat like the old ones.
>>49824897
Because only GW matters.
>>49844793
Sure it does look a little more genetic muscle satan. But anyone who says it looks bad or is a poor sculpt is a liar. Its 10x better than the old bloodthirster, was hoping to see all the greater daemons get a revamp
>>49848545
>men being murdered is a lot harder to sympathize with
Of course it is, men aren't people. They're hate spewing war machines.
Buy an animal/alien dildo so it doesn' t look like you're gobbling man-meat and stuck it up your throat until you can't pull it out anymore.
>>49848545
>things like rape and sexually suggestive female slavery are never okay
What are you even doing on 4chan creep?
>>49847031
Go fuck yourself, they're classics.
I don't fully comprehend the neckholes though.
>>49826251
Best or worst , anon?
>>49847540
I never said any of those things. You are adding your own interpretation to fight an imagined enemy. I hear there are a lot of nasty windmills over yonder hill, you can go fight those off after you're done with this non-existent SJW.
>>49848545
You, sir, are the best /tg/ troll I've seen in a long while.
>>49839247
>especially for their time
Those aren't from fucking 1985. Those are from like, 1999.
One of the finest and fuck you GW this gem is apparently OOP now.
Clean lines, subtle posing and details that matter.
>>49859122
Not my paintjob btw on the last one.
This one as well for mostly the same reasons. I'm not the best painter but this one I'm quite proud of. It has a horrendous moldline that I just noticed fml.
>>49856057
They are simply awful. While the one pose 4e warrior on the right is very light on detail, at least he isn't some sort of hunchback freak.
>>49817669
BEST COMING RIGHT ON THROUGH! AESTHETIC AS FUAAAARK!
>>49859122
Still got this guy lying around somewhere. Beautiful mini.
>>49828851
>Best fucking model
That's not a wraithknight, friendo.