>make WW1 Battlefield >final result is the best Warhammer

>>49706989
For a moment there I thought this was some future nazis game screenshot.

>>49707056
It might as well be one.
Actualy it kinda looks like Metro 2033.

>>49707056
Since it looks like there's more semi auto and auto weapons than in a WW2 game, it might very well be

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>>49707149
I like the heavy armoured dudes carrying heavy machine guns and firing from the hip.
Really give you that WW1 feeling.

>>49706989
Anon, no.
It had an open beta, you know?
It's like Call of Duty with bigger maps.

>>49707197
It was obvious that it's going to be Battlefield but with a WW1 paintjob.
They just did such a poor job it looks more like a 40K game or a WW2 scifi with a WW1 paintjob than an actual WW1 game.

>tfw a fantasy horror shooter with demons and vampires is a better ww1 shooter than battlefield 1

Talk about missed potential, they've this chance to mix up the gameplay but thanks to the need to appeal to the lowest common denominator they end up shitting up yet another reskinned BF3.

>>49707512

What fantasy horror shooter?

The Darkness?

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>>49707523

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>>49706989
>The Great War
>Submachineguns and Semiautomatic rifles everywhere
>Not even alternate history or Weird War
What the fuck

>>49707584
Bolt action rifles don't appeal to the Call of Duty audience.

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>>49706989
>tfw no WWI-era fantasy settings

>>49707584
Do you really expect their target audience to be capable of playing a game where bolt action rifles and pistols/revolvers are the main weapon for 90% of classes?
Especially things like the Mousquetons Berthier with a glorious three round clip.

>>49707584
I thought they explicitly said that the game takes place in an alternate history.

>>49707616
Who is ready for Call of Duty Napoleonic Warfare with automatic muskets and reaper bomb balloons?

>>49707599
That also always bothered me.
Like there's like a million of not-WW2 settings or what-if-Nazis won settings but there's barely any not-WW1 or what-if-central-powers won settings.
>>49707626
Not according to their single-player gameplay which states the game is "based on events that unfolded over one hundred years ago".

>>49707594
CoD literally started with bolt action rifles and had less automatic weapons in WaW than BF1. BF quality plummeted after it moved to consoles, but the signs of both the game and the community going to shit could be seen since BF2, COD has nothing to do with it.

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>>49707643
I was thinking more Elves vs. Dwarves with bolt-action rifles instead of bows.

Think about it: Dwarves must be the best motherfucking trench diggers in the world. In this world, instead of wielding axes, Dwarves are famous for touting around these fuckers.

>>49707636
But do the muskets have laser sights?

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>>49707056
I really wonder what tacticool WW Ottomans will look like.

>>49707696
>>49707703
The Jannisaries can call aerial bombardment!!!

>>49707709
The Sipahi cavalry duel wields revolvers but can also switch to the curved bow. Very deadly at high speed due to bomb arrows.

>>49707643
Did you check out Kaiserreich already?
Es braust ein Ruf wie Donnerhall,
wie Schwertgeklirr und Wogenprall:
Zum Rhein, zum Rhein, zum deutschen Rhein,
wer will des Stromes Hüter sein?

>>49706989

What I don't understand is why there doesn't seem to be too much trench warfare. And what's with the focus on the Harlem Hellfighters? They were a joke!

>>49707790
They know their target audience.

>>49707656
BF2142 and BFBC2 were the last titles in that series worth playing. Everything after has been trash.

>>49707690
Prussians = Dwarfs
Austrians&Southern Germans = Halflings
Hungarias = Orcs
French = Gnomes
British = Goblins
Russians = Beastmen (mostly bear, wolf or tiger people)
Ottomans = Djinnies
Australians = Wood Elves
>>49707790
It's the current year and the end of the Obama era.
Also don't forget the complete absence of the French and Russians.

>>49707599
I have one in progress if you'd like.

>>49707803
Guess that we should consider ourselves lucky if brits have more than 5 mins of screen time.

>>49707790
Trenches prevent you from just running in and gunning bad guys with ease.

>>49707790
Simple, it's boring for the targeted players to have to duck all the time and shoot one bullet per minute. These are the people who are used to cods, charging in, guns blazing, spewing 500 bullets per second.

>>49707803
French are high elves.

>>49707626
Actually, they explicitly stated the game was NOT set in an alternate history when people first began to criticize 75% of the soldiers being black.

>>49707821
Silly anon, you could just have the entire map being a trench system

>>49707835
>it is not an alternative history
>it is just that everyone and their mother carriers automatic weapons

If you want a historical war with plenty of automatics why not 'nam? I think that the last big fps with anything 'nam related was Black Ops 1 and that game out was it half a decade ago.

>>49707790
Why were they a joke?

>>49707616
Machineguns anon. Machineguns. Germans even fired them on the move supposedly, although I can't see lugging a fuckhuge massive water-cooled MG with you across no mans land being that effective.

WW1 would make a great battlefield game, but it would be very different to a WW2 or modern game. It would be all about artillery combining with infantry. Aircraft would spot for the artillery, and engage in dogfights, and later in the game a few tanks might turn up to support the infantry.

What I would do for player classes:
>Commander
>Infantry - Rifleman
>Infantry - MG Crew
>Infantry Engineer
>Infantry - Artillery observer
>Artillery officer
>Artillery crew
>Tank Crew
>Pilot
>Air Observer
>Cavalry (kind of out of place in WW1 but they did get used quite a bit on the eastern front and fucking Haig always wanted to use them, so might as well include them even if they get shredded by MGs)

All those elements working together would feel like great teamwork, but it would make for a very different game than your average battlefield game, so understandable that Dice didn't want to take any risks, and just use "late war / experimental" equipment and pretend its the way WW1 was.

It would be cool to have the game evolve as you go on, to represent the technology race - like in Men of War multiplayer, where you start off with the early war units, and slowly get better and better tech throughout the round, until finally you have all the late war tech and toys.

>>49707847
BF vietnam was a bug ridden mess, vietcong 1 was pretty good, the rest have been shitty games

>>49707838
But that sounds too awesome for Battlefield.

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>>49707803
>That one anon who always squeezes generic fantasy races into every historical period

>>49707878
Dude they already had a whole map being a subway, just reskin

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>>49707780
>tfw forming Danubia, waiting for Germany and France to wear each other out, then taking all of Europe.

>>49707857
The US didn't want them, didn't want to use them, they had less training, supplies, food and ammo than white divisions, they were used as support, to move around supplies and build stuff.

But then the French army called the Americans dickwads, supplied the Hellfighters, incorporated them into the French army and sent them to the front. They distinguished themselves and were decorated with the Croix de Guerre before any other American regiment, lel. All this after some US general called them "a threat to Americans" and said they lacked courage and stuff.
And in an unsurprising move of still being dickwads, US higher ups prevented them from parading in Paris.

>>49707864
>vietcong 1
I'm still shell-shocked from that game.

>>49707892
>waiting for Germany and France to wear each other out
Shitass plan.
One always steamroll the other and becomes the dominant power on the continent.

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>>49707599
This book series might be up your alley

>>49707594
What the fuck. I remember OUTSKILLING HEADSHOOTING [horn intensifies] fags in CoD 2 with the lee enfield like if it was no business.

>>49707978
Tigger please, most "call of duty" fans nowadays only play Modern Warfare and knockoffs. None of them know the joy of bolt action rifles and MP-40s.

>>49707978
CoD 2 was already more noob-friendly than 1, with small maps, shotguns and steady aim. Maybe if the CoD1 exp pack had sold more and had been played like the base game the series would have gone in a different direction

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>>49706989
I'm mostly pissed that you can't play as the French, Prussians, or the Hungarians.
What the fuck? Is this even WWI?

>>49707643
>based on events that unfolded over one hundred years ago
>based on
sounds like alternate history to me to be honest

>>49708023
The only series with the balls of putting you on the side of the "bad guys" would probably be COD. Maybe if WW2 was still the go-to setting.

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>>49708023
>Prussians
You mean Russians, right?
Germans are playable in multi-player.
>or the Hungarians.
Isn't Austria-Hungary playable on some maps against Italy?

>>49708033
>call of duty: weltkriege
>follow 2 generations of kraut soldiers as they fight in world war 1&2
>mandatory shock moments: being a machine gunner during the d-day, executing possibly a jewish polish female partisan, deploying nerve gas against an entente trench and then executing survivors
>muh drone/dog/whatever scenes: controlling a dreadnought's turret during a jutland, mandatory world war 1 dog fight, using an attack dog to sniff out partisans

9/10 was triggered - IGN
Banned in half a dozen countries

>>49708033
>France
>The "Bad Guys"
Without them, the allies would have lost the Western Front.

>>49708105
Easy with the memes boyo

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>>49708116
Do you feel like a hero yet?

>>49708138
>tfw countless german cultural artifacts were destroyed by bombing
>kyoto was left alone because the american secretary of war was a weaboo

>>49708116
Where did you get that from?

>>49708151
>Saxons
>culture

>>49708116
Why would you think I meant the french?

Korean War game never

>>49708226
Americans don't want to remember how they got their asses kicked by Chinese "volunteers".

>>49708226
Eh, tech level is close enough to WW2 so only the scenery would mainly change, There's a theatre of war game and a wargame campaign though, in addition to other wargames

>>49708238
But it would be the one game where CoD/BF style casualty rates for goodies and baddies are realistic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outpost_Harry

>>49708251
Insane kill ratios are pretty much the norm in any conflict not between western powers, check east asian, african and middle eastern wars. Plus, the losses on screen are not to be taken as an indication of the whole conflict portrayed as the action around the player usually involves plot armored NPCs.

>>49708226
Finno-Korean Hyperwar game never.

>>49708226
A lot of Americans don't know about the Korean war.

They didn't even teach us about it in my high school. Our American history class went right from WWII to the Civil Rights Movement and then Vietnam.

>>49708226
But we lost the Korean war.

Same reason why we never get good Vietnam games.

>>49708226
It'd just be WW2: Cold Edition though.

>>49708425
I'm not even American and I learned about it, I mean we didn't go in depth about it like WW1 or 2, but come on.
What the fuck guys.

>>49708431
>we lost the Korean war
wat. South Korea is still a thing, innit?

>>49708458
As is North Korea.

>>49708477
So it was a stalemate?

>>49708458
South vietnam was still a thing when they left too. Anyway, the war didn't go as planned and the objectives weren't met.

>>49708488
Yep. Also known as when both sides lose.

NK lost harder but you can't say we son.

>>49708509
But Korea was literally a stalemate though. The Nork invasion of SK was repelled, the UN invasion of NK was repelled, the Chicom-Nork invasion of SK was repelled, then everybody said fuck it and signed a treaty.

>>49708533
They didn't go there with the purpose of an unsteady ceasefire

>>49708546
They went there with the intention of stopping Communists from taking over South Korea, which unlike Vietnam was actually achieved.

>>49708533
>treaty

Technically the Korean war is still ongoing but with last 60 years being one long armistice.

>>49708559
Te objective was to make NK surrender, thus the bombings on civilian targets, but all that and two years of grinding didn't achieve that.

>>49708559
From what I've understood at least Douglas "gotta fuck everything up" MacArthur went in with gotta remove all gommies from Asia mentality.

>>49707056
Its battlefield 1

>>49708587
Tbh MacArthur was kinda crazy, the motherfucker wanted to nuke China.

>>49708116
I don't know why history classes called them "Allies" and not the League Of Nations, which is what they called themselves.

>>49708611
Because American schools are terrible and they barely, it at all, cover WWI.
They call them the allies so they can jump right in to WWII.

>>49708611
The LoN was an organization set up after WW1.

The allied powers were called the allied powers.

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>>49707149
It's kinda funny. They pulled out a shitload of actual "period", that is manufactured/prototypes before 1919, guns and it's still like this. I hope they have this bad boy.

>>49708531
>NK lost harder but you can't say we son.

That's debatable. The whole peninsula was obliterated and both sides maintained basically the same territory after the war as they had before the war. Even the top leadership remained unchanged. You could argue by the number of dead, but by that logic alone you would have the Soviet Union losing WW2 to Nazi Germany, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If you go by industrial potential, North Korea arguably looked a lot better than South Korea all the way into the 1970s when Park Chung-hee's policies finally put it on the map. I say arguably, because it depends on how you measure it, e.g. calories per capita vs. GDP per capita.

The Korean War was a stalemate by all definitions. If anything, DPRK lost the development race, but that was not the immediate consequence of the war.

>>49708993
I dunno, getting support and money from the self-designated King of Democracy to ensure that they keep yet another air-strip within striking range of the Red Menace seems like a consequence of the war.

>>49708587
They were winning and then Douglas MacstupidfuckArthur pushed the Chinese into joining the war. Way to go.

>>49709506
No relation whatsoever. Syngman Rhee has been supported by the United States essentially throughout his entire career. There is no reason to believe that this would change had Kim Il-Sung not attacked. As for money, again, Korea really took off once Rhee had been kicked out and Park rolled out his controlled economy, which immensely pissed off the United States.

If anything, the only way in which "NK lost harder" is because it was a more developed area than bumfucknowhere South Korea. By extension, it meant that it lost more when both sides flatted out the peninsula. It is really a bit of a moot point though, because it nonetheless remained a more developed nation following the war.

If you are curious in ROK's economic development, I can recommend you a few good chapters in some books.

>>49709648
How did MacArthur push Chinese into joining the war?

>>49707594
Jesus I read call of duty as call of cthullu

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>>49706989
>no

>>49708636
>>49708611

>American Schools are terrible

Doesn't realize the League of Nations is postwar.

You're thinking of the Triple Entente (probably), which was the Russians, English, and French, later upon actually including others in the alliance they changed their name. (because there were more than 3 of them)

To the the "Allied Powers", or "Entente" but they were used interchangeably. But sure as fuck not the postwar League of Nations,

Go do a history you two.

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>IG gane should be about you playing as IG and just keep dieing

I want this idea to end

>>49709766
To be fair the Ottomans controlled the Caucuses and parts of Africa, so ethnic variety makes sense.

>>49709825
I think the screenshot is more about making fun of the Ottomans being whiter than Britain.

>>49707847


Rising Storm 2 hype intensifies

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>>49707584
this is what happens when your product has to appeal to 12 year old american children

if you want an actual WW1 FPS, there is Verdun, which is quite good

>>49709821
>just keep dieing
Good thing BF 1 is about running around with fancy semi or fully-automatic weapons and soaking bullets like a tank.

>>49709834
Yeah, mostly pointing out that it was the one instance where racial diversity makes sense.

My biggest issue with the Ottomans is the fact that they really look like a combination of reskinned Germans and brits and very little like the Turkish troops.

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>>49709907
True, you'd think most of them would be wearing that iconic hat/helmet from WW1.

>>49706989
>Battlefield 1
>Not identical to every other battlefield game ever

>>49709956
Well, this one is obviously less historically accurate than any other BF game.
Even more than the Cops or Scifi one.

>>49709766
>in the grim darkness of the far future, there are only niggers

>>49709956
Why change the winning formula? The general audience is more than willing to buy reskinned versions of the same game over and over again (see call of duty, assassin's creed, mario, etc.).

>>49709766
I mean, they did tend to put all the black people together in a single regiment. So if there were to be any, you'd find them all in the same place.

>>49706989
So apparently in the Beta there was a game breaking bug that made it so some people would spawn without any kit. Players actively loved it. They had to run around the battlefield hiding and looking for a fallen comrad who did spawn with a weapon waiting for them to die.
A truly authentic experience.

>>49707860
At the end of the day I think the main thing such a game would need is a focus on static defences and massive battles. 250 vs 100 man battles with one side as the designated attackers, machineguns aren't things you can lug around effectively, you can pretty much turn them around to shoot at the defenders if they counter-attack but that's it. Players get shotguns and bolt action rifles with submachineguns being nearly nonexistent. So pretty much your classes would end up being
>Rifleman (you get a rifle or shotgun and bayonet)
>Cavalryman (you get a carbine and sabre, also you have a horse)
>Sapper (repair vehicles, you get a carbine or pistol and can plant demolition charges and lay down barbed wire)
>Officer (you get a pistol, sword, and binoculars that you can use to call down automated artillery or mortar fire or for observation planes)
Anyone can just hop on one of the machineguns which are more or less static and start firing

The fact of the matter is that almost nobody will want to play as an artillery officer, crewman, or observer meaning unless you can get all those spots filled you probably can't get a single functioning gun. Plus air observer also lacks action for the game. Stuff like observation and artillery are better off being automated or simple click a button and artillery starts raining down on an area.

The end result is that cavalry are oftetimes better than riflemen in close quarters due to their carbine and sabre while riflemen act as generalists. Cavalry can also mount on a horse but odds are they will generally leave it behind because it will just get shot and fling them off anyway. Sappers can help set up defences, repair tanks, or set up traps (cover an area of the trench in explosives, when it falls blow it up killing everyone who just took that area of trench), while officers can call down artillery fire or call for observation aircraft. Tanks can just be vehicles that anyone can hop into.

>>49710019
Well its also nothing like warhammer. Its literally just a reskinned battlefield 4. Claiming that battlefield 1 is the perfect 40k game is like saying call of duty Ghosts or Battlefield 4 are the perfect 40k game.

Star Wars Battlefront (not the new one and Battlefront 2 are both better since it is less focused on vehicles and planes and horses and shit and more focused on guys with guns dying constantly. Either way a true Imperial Guard game would either be bland (because it would be humans vs humans) or just pointless and frustrating (have fun dying 30 times to a Tau with a pulse rifle that you can't even see or dying to a Chaos Space Marine after shooting him in the head 90 times).

Space Marines make sense as the player characters for a 40k FPS since they are actually capable of killing dozens or hundreds of enemies before dying, and Space Marine did that theme very well (although ranged combat often feels pointless) you really feel like a super badass in the game, ripping through Orks or cultists yet can still be drowned in enemies and can have difficulty vs the tougher enemies like Nobz and Chaos Space Marines.

>>49707958
>Weber
Why?

>>49708138
Eh, literal Nazis senpai. and it's not like they didn't start that shit in guernica.

>>49712158

>War is hell and we should always try to humanize the opposition lest we fall into Us vs. Them, if you kill your opponent they win
>Except for nazis lol, any German that isn't a Jew should be righteously mowed down because those fucking Aryans deserve it!

I don't get it!

>>49712829
>Be the primary kickstarter of the first world war
>Be collapsing on all front by the end of war with widespread mutinies, riots, and food shortages
>Agree to peace terms that are mostly reasonable, maintain all lands in Europe that had a German majority and were actually ruled by Germans for centuries
>LOL we didn't lose, Jews stabbed us in the backs, if it wasn't for the Jews we would have won
>Start another world war, bomb London, Rotterdam, and other major cities
>Wow, bombing cities full of civilians? What is your problem? You are the real bad guys

Start shit, get hit.

>>49708601
>>49709648
>>49709748

IDK if you could say that Macarthur pushed the Chinese, but he was the dumbfuck who explicitly ignored all of the intel and reports that said that the Chinese were in Korea and pushed ahead with ever more aggressive strategies when the troops should have been consolidating gains and setting up defensive lines. Had they not had the mad race to the Yalu, Macarthur could very well have ended up walking away from the war with a significant chunk of Nork territory firmly in Allied hands, assuming he didn't take all of it. His unwillingness to accept that the reality of the battlefield was not what he wanted turned what could have been a very real (if not necessarily total) victory into a bloody, grinding, ultimately avoidable stalemate.

>>49712943
>LOL we didn't lose, Jews stabbed us in the backs, if it wasn't for the Jews we would have won
The jews started jewing the germans after ww1. I'm pretty sure it was their economical problems after ww1 that they blamed the jews for, which they honestly were behind most of it.

It's a bit tough to say exactly what happened during both eras, there were lots of book burnings after ww1, and even more after ww2. It doesn't help that there was almost no information about what was happening in Germany during those times that weren't complete propaganda.
>Wow, bombing cities full of civilians? What is your problem? You are the real bad guys
Two wrongs don't make a right. To put this in perspective, us, and by us I mean the department of defense, bomb cities and fund terrorists every damn tuesday. Does that mean that nuking Boston is ok? No. It absolutely is not ok.

>>49713218
True.
Better nuke Detroit.

>>49707891
Oh look, the actually good WW1 game!
>100% of playable characters are white men
>Actually fun despite bolt-action rifles
>France exists

>>49712943
I will never stop repeating this: Ferdinand Foch was right and the biggest mistake the Entente made was not listening to him.

>>49707915
To be fair, the Frenchwere sometimes dicks to their own colonial troops, though unlike the Yanks or Britbongs, they understood that blacks could fight just as well as whites.

Plus, the patriotic Hellfighters did A LOT to improve the image of black American soldiers amongst the US public. They even had an armory named after them, which would have been unheard before the war.

>>49706989
>ww1
>wehrmacht grenadier uniform

They really just don't give a fuck

>>49707599
There is a certain Polish modification of Warhammer fantasy that propells Old World into the World War 2 era. Imperium is Third Reich but not Nazi, Orcs created Union of Orcy Socialist Republic, Ulthuan is America/England with technology and craft on steroid but with WAAAY less manpower and raw resources.

It's pretty bitching. One of my favorite scene was Wood Elfs Comandos runing around with Dwarf made anti tank gun that had so much runs imbeded in it it glowed every time shot was taken.

If TG is interested I could get into translating it into english.

>>49708238
That was only for part of the war, though it was a fairly bad arsekicking at first. A lot of the American troops in-theatre were green, while the Red Chinese were the hardest bastards on the planet, thanks to their horrifying war against the Japanese and their painful civil war. Plus, really good light infantry tactics.

As the war went on, the Americans became much more proficient and fought the Chinese on an equal level.

That would be great for a game's story, really; greenhorn US/UNC troops thoroughly handle the Norks, then have to with setback after setback fighting the fierce Chinese assault. Then, the main characters are finally a part of successful defense, and the rest of the game is about them and their compatriots slowly learning to fight equally, only for the war/game to be a stalemated slog. Not very sexy, but interesting to watch, I'd think.

>>49707599
Arcanum?

>>49707879
It's in a thread made by one of those anons who say everything is 40k so it's alright.

>>49714015
Do you really think that your Ave dudebro would know that they are gunning germans unless the krauts dress like it is 1944 again?

>>49718689
*average

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>>49714015
What parts of it are Wehrmacht? Looks like sturmtruppen to me

>>49718756
I had no idea stik bombs were that big

>>49715128
>Ulthuan is America/England with technology and craft on steroid but with WAAAY less manpower and raw resources.
The Americans took care of that the way the Elfs do in WH - slavery.

>>49708105
>>follow 2 generations

Top kek. One gen's more enough to see

>WW1
>Northern Wars in Finnland
>Quelling the socialist Vagina Dentata uprising in Germany
>WW2

>>49710147
>Germans get the Sturmtruppen-upgrade
>THIS GRENADE TRAIN NEVER STOPS

>Brits and French get light machine gunners
>LE TEMPS DU RAMBO WALKE

Also
>british sappers can't spam Livens Projectors
why even bother?

>>49708251

Huh. I didn't know the Greeks still had it in them by that point. What are some modern examples of Greeks being operator?

>>49708238

>What is the battle of Chosin

Go educate yourself fucknut

>>49712829

Because the West needs a hate sink, and Nazis are one of the few things that the majority of people agree are evil.

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>>49712829
I also hate this entire idea of WW1 as a "meaningless" war. You'd think there'd be some appeal in the idea of an entire nation rising as one in defense of their rights and liberties, right?
>Inb4 'hurr durr it was horrible'
And that's precisely what makes it heroic. Precisely because there was nothing glorious about it.

>>49719334
>West needs a hate sink
Except it's all a propaganda machine that someone forgot to switch off after 50 years. If your culture needs an object to hate to a point of fetishistic obsession with it, it's a sick culture.

>>49719383
... what nation are you talking about?
France? Because france was just in it to check German power.

>>49719383
Oh man, just FYI, the French still have to deal with parts of their country being no-man's land due to all the unexploded WW1-ammunition buried right under the topsoil.

The British rememberance is basically a Superbowl event compared to how the French feel about WW1.

>>49719388
It's only natural to hate those you're at war with. Just look at for example the original Iron Man comic, which took place during the Vietnam War and depicted Viets as sneaky, rateyed gooks.

The problem is that this idea of racism and "if you kill your enemy, they win" has permeated, so even after 9/11 distaste for Muslims was controversial. American society always has to go back to the 1940s, for the one politically correct (read: white) enemy they can hate.

If you disagree, just look at common criticisms of the CoD Franchise. I'm not a fan of it, but it's retarded how many people call it a "brown people shooter simulator". And if the enemies are the Russians for a change, then it's suddenly a "red scare simulator". It's like those games are always doing something wrong in the eyes of the masses unless you're shooting Germans.

>>49719409
>Because france was just in it to check German power
The French were declared war upon, they never declared war on Germany. At best you could argue that maybe this could've happened due to an alliance with Russia, but then you're entering the realm of speculation (and also ignoring that the Germans were so eager to go on the offensive, they invaded and tore apart neutral Belgium and Luxembourg, as well as the fact that the Germans didn't exactly want peace with the Russians either).

From the French perspective, WW1 was all about the defense of the homeland. The frontier battles, the miracle of the Marne, the (admittedly propagandic) taxi cabs and Verdun were all in defense of the nation. In fact, the distance between the front line and Paris was so small, the Germans created the Paris Gun in hopes of bombarding the city without needing to get past the French lines. I don't really see how this is keeping German power in check.

>>49719427
Yeah, Zone Rouge. It's still weird to think that in a relatively large city like Lille, you end up in a danger zone simply by walking south.

>>49719428
It is pretty funny how WaW got shit for treating Imperial Japanese in same way as it treated Germans.

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>>49706989
Lol the only blacks in the 41st Millennium are mutant space marines from an irradiated world.

You really think the god emperor would allow the heresy of a negro to continue? Much too Ork-like.

>YFW you realise all the shit that lead to the creation of the Warhammer/40k fantasy genre was born on the fronts of WW1 and WW2.

I wish there was a 40k video game about the imperial guard where you do shit like what they do in the novels. Some of the Ciaphas Cain novels I've been reading lately would have you thinking the lasgun is a fairly solid gun and can fuck people up.

I just want to remove the enemies of the imperium is that too much to ask?

>>49707826
>shoot one bullet per minute
He doesn't know about the mad minute

>>49719587
More than 1 bullet per 30 secs from a bolt action rifle causes armchair weapons experts to scream "Unrealistic REEEEEEEE!"

>>49707799
Speaking of 2142

bl2142.co in URL

>>49708652
>allied powers were called the allied powers
It starts (and was taught to me in Canada) as the Entente Powers, later as more were added it becomes the Allies.

>>49709835
Don't hype too much, remember launch RO2 and temper expectations appropriately.

>>49719638
At least around here it is entente and central powers with ww2 being western allies+soviet union vs axis

>>49710117
>A truly authentic experience
Anon, Russia isn't in this game.

>>49718756
>>49719005
Were they as good as US/modern grenades? I kinda imagine the stick'd get in the way of fragments, maybe.

>>49713501
>Actually fun despite bolt-action rifles

What is this even supposed to mean? Did you not play WW2 games either?

>>49707056
well, he'll be a nazi in the future :^)

>>49712943
>mostly reasonable
>held responsible for everything and forced to pay loser money to the nations that beat you for the next 100 years

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>mfw there is reportedly a secret mission in the campaign where you play a "message runner" for the German Empire that may or may not be Adolf Hitler.

>>49720894
C'mon, most WW2 games thrust an MP40 or Thompson in your hands within 5 minutes. Even the old ones.

>>49720971
I hope there's another where you play an australian message runner.

>>49720997

There's already a campaign where you play an Australian, it's during the Gallipoli campaign.

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>>49720997

>>49720997
>>49721010
STEEL SPRINGS

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>>49713501
>100% of playable characters are white men
Come on.
It's true some big games shoehorn a kind of twisted idea of "diversity" in their setting, but saying blacks are out of place in WWI is idiotic.

>>49721037
>It's true some big games shoehorn a kind of twisted idea of "diversity" in their setting, but saying blacks are out of place in WWI is idiotic.

Big games? You should see the sort of reality twisting and disturbing degree of lying that goes on when people insist "diversity" and "multicultural" does not mean "Bulgarians and Austrians working with Turks to fight back ANZAC" but rather "we've got white people and non-white people."

Admittedly, I blame this viewpoint far more on the homogenization of Western cultures and history than anything else. The vast majority of these people probably grew up viewing Europe as little more than one giant pot of identical people with different hats and funny accents. No surprise the vast majority of people who hold these viewpoints are American, the Land of Bland.

Yo can I get PTSD and become a Peaky Blinder

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>>49721037
>tfw there will never be a ww2 game where the germans weren't just a horde of generic white dudes

>>49721081
>American, the Land of Bland
As a eurofag I honestly I don't think you can call America "Land of Bland". America seems like an interesting place. It's the birthplace of blues and the internet and it has rednecks and fucking Florida.

>Big games?
Well yeah I guess I don't know I mean I'm not really interested in vydias and when it comes to tabletop games I'm more aware of european games than US stuff.

>>49721175
That's because they were, sure they had 1-2 odd small units that fought for them for show or anti-partisan warfare.

But consider that few of the Germans even bothered taking Algerians prisoner during the the Battle for France. Because racism meant shooting them was okay.

>>49707891
Verdun has to be the worst FPS title I've played. The controls are incredibly wonky and weird with sensitivity being through the rood. I much prefer Red Orchestra 2.

>>49708445
Yanks don't like learning/thinking about wars they lost, so they just ignore them.

>>49708431
>But we lost the Korean war
Technically, the Korean War never actually ended. We're still at war with North Korea, there's been an armstice all this time but no actual peace treaty.

>>49721290
>But consider that few of the Germans even bothered taking Algerians prisoner during the the Battle for France.

The Germans also rounded up and shot a lot of Frenchmen and British because they heard gunshots somewhere in the vicinity after an officer had surrendered. The Francs-tireurs paranoia was still at an all-time high back then.

>>49707599
You should defs check out Leviathan by Scott Westerfeld then. A bit on the YA side of the publishing industry, but still really neat.

>>49720669
They didn't create fragments. The metal part was basically just a tin can packed with a huge amount of high explosive that killed you with the force of the blast alone.

>>49707599
It would actually have good potential.

>Mortars firing gas shells bombard a trench.
>The survivors now have to fight off their dead comrades because there's a necromancer in the other trench

>>49707599

That is LITERALLY Eberron, anon.

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>>49707599

The problem with any WWI-themed fantasy setting is that it becomes very easy to come up with reasons to avoid trench warfare and keep it a game of maneuver. The whole reason the Western Front was such a deadlock was because of a very specific set of technological and tactical shortcomings, which a setting with magic and shit can solve pretty easily. You either have to go low-fantasy or something completely tech-based for it to play out with any sort of semblance to what most would associate with WWI.

>>49721318
Also the attack defend mechanics are pretty shitty after playing RO2.

And the teams are incredibly small.

And no VOIP, despite trying to encourage teamplay.

I love RO2 but I can't get why that piece of crap kee[s getting recommended.