ITT: times you got kicked out of a group >playing 5e d&d

>>49671547
It's because no one likes you

>make character that doesn't fit with party
>DM allows character
>character doesn't fit with party
>DM tells player to leave

Passive-aggressive DM aside, >>49671696 is probably right

>>49671547
The DM's girlfriend who wasn't even a player got me kicked out for flirting with NPCs in character.

>>49671768

I think there's a lot to OP:s story that he's not telling considering that literally everyone in the party tried to get rid of him.

>>49671773
see >>49671696

>>49671773
>flirting
what's the odds you were being a creep?

>>49671547
As far as I can tell everyone was playing in-character. If that's what makes you upset, maybe roleplaying just isn't for you.

>>49671788
He played a fucking necromancer who dabbles in infernalism on the side in a good/neutral party. No shit.

>>49671809
Wow sure is RESTRICTING PLAYER AGENCY here.

>>49671809
Necromancers can be comfortably neutral in D&D, as can fiend summoners. Neutral is the alignment of those who wield evil for good purposes.

>>49671773
>Flirting with NPCs
One of the more obnoxious traits I have to deal with when I run things. I don't mind it on occasion, but there are few players who take it too far and I end up having to have 30 minutes of romance banter, then I'm pissed.

>>49671547
>Playing necromancer while there is a Paladin in the group
Desu, sounds more like you made a shit character.
>He ignores me
Didn't like you that much to begin with.
>No one is helping me
Players didn't like you either.
>Suggests you leave
Probably one of those, "If you don't like it my way, don't play" kind of guys.

>>49671818
>Restricting Player Agency
Wuts dat

>>49671798
Well the DM didn't mind it.

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>>49671547
>Paladin
>Demon summoner
>They fight
>People side with the walking beacon of divine justice and not the guy with literally the fucking devil on speeddial.
WHOA HOLY SHIT WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THAT TWIST OH MY GOODNESS.

Seriously though, why don't people talk about this shit before a game? I'm not saying design by comitee should be the only way to make a party work, but fuck, it sure as shit irons out these situations before they get someone kicked.

>>49671827
>Desu, sounds more like you made a shit character.
5E paladins aren't even "RIGHTEOUS GOODNESS LAW ALL THE TIME OR FALL" you know.

>>49671827
>Wuts dat
It's what keeps Chaotic Good characters from raping.

>>49671897
>walking beacon of divine justice
That's not what a 5E paladin even is.
5E paladins are just dudes who got so invested in one thing that they swore a binding magical oath that grants them power.

>>49671827
>Restricting Player Agency
>Wuts dat

It's when someone makes a lolsorandumxD character, is told they need to make a different character that fits the rest of the party, then ragequits and posts on 4chan about how mean the other players are

>>49671547
If it was just your character that was causing the problem, they'd have asked you to reroll someone who would work with the group better.
The fact they asked the player to leave shows that you were that guy.

Seriously, just rewrite your post a little and you're this little shit who turned up with a Demonologist Necromancer and thought that would just be fine. Then he broke out of jail and figured that would fly with a generally lawful party as well.

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>>49671547
Here's what's wrong with both you and the group DM in that scenario.

>Made a necromancer who summons demons with a paladin in the party.

Should have made sure the party would allow the character or agreed that he would have to hide it or be turned on. If you did agree, good job. Continuing.

>tells player to leave the group instead of "make a new character and hand over the new villians sheet."

This is such bullshit I have to actually go get The relevant trick tract. No DM worth the shit in their grin is going to do that.

>>49671897
DM should've just torpedoed the character at the outset. If a guy comes to my game wanting to play edgy mcslaghter I tell the party won't roll with that.

>>49671953
There is literally no incompatibility with a fiend summoner and a paladin in 5E unless they lose control of their summoned fiends.

Side point, but why would you summon demons as a necromancer? You're already a necromancer! Just summon the undead. That's your thing. Death magic. What's next, a fighter who plays magical music?
If you want to summon demons, are you really telling me that there's nothing more appropriate? Warlock maybe?

>>49671954
It's often easier to let people see for themselves what is wrong than try to explain it.
Players are as thick as DMs are lazy.

>>49671547
>>tell the dm It's not fun when everybody at the table is trying to kill my character

Disregarding all the shit you left out and assuming in good faith you weren't an utter cunt in the events leading up, or that the group was deliberately out to get you, this moment was where you should have said 'well shit, I'll retire this asshole and make a new character that doesn't deliberately antagonize my supposed allies'.

You went in, made a character whose concept was literally antagonistic to the group, got your wish, then the DM didn't want to immediately cater to the ONE GUY who got himself in the shitter. Then when he finally does give you a fair allotment of time, you go on as if he's supposed to play a solo game for you alone, or force a group of characters yours alienated to take him back.

Even if the group was out to get you, your own entitlement shines through. News flash, you are not the main character. The other players including the DM are also players.

You got the consequences your character concept demanded, both from a group and story perspective.

>>49671992
Adding to this, the school for wizard summoners is Conjuration.

>>49671898
No, not at all. But a paladin has a lot of turn undead powers, which could in turn harm your summoned undead. It makes for poor party cohesion, especially if the paladin has any aura powers.

>>49671547
>Trying to be evil in a group where everyone else isnt.

Found your problem.
I bet you even think its the GMs job to accomodate your whims.
it isnt

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>>49671910
But more often than not, that thing its justice right?
I'm just saying the average population of any generic setting is more likely to side with the guy who (either serves a god or) has such a strong will in regards to a self imposed code of the protection of others, revenge against wrongdoers or whatever the other one is, that the universe sees fit to gift him holy powers.
You know, more likely than the guy who summons the adversarial forces of the underworld and antithesis of good to do his bidding.

>>49672069
>But more often than not, that thing its justice right?
Only for Devotion, really, and even those are meant to show compassion and mercy where appropriate. Someone who summons demons but does nothing wrong deserves all the mercy.
>You know, more likely than the guy who summons the adversarial forces of the underworld and antithesis of good to do his bidding.
It's perfectly fine by all three oaths (unless Vengeance swore an oath against fiends specifically, as they choose a sworn enemy) so long as they're doing your bidding and not the other way around. No evil comes from them when the summoner is in control. It has absolutely no negative repercussions.

Perhaps you're confusing "demon summoner" with "guy who summons demons for nefarious purposes and to learn their dark wisdom" instead of what it should be, "guy who enslaves demons and wields them like a sword".

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>ForeverDM for a group of people
>eventually they start running games of their own
>they don't invite me

>>49672278
This is the saddest this I've read all day.

>>49671828
The DM doesn't have to deal with creepy men every day of her life.

>>49672319
What? The DM is a guy and I'm a girl.

>>49672360
You retard, the other girl thinks you're flirting with her man

you god damn fool lmao how can anyone be this obtuse

>>49672278
Ask them why they didn't invite you?

>>49672398
I pretty much was, but it's still pretty over the top to get me kicked out of the game for it.

>>49672501
That would be rude, I think I'm just supposed to take the hint.

>>49672525
>be a creep
>be surprised when people don't want to be around a creep

>>49672542
But maybe there's a good reason for it and your players didn't mean to make you feel bad.

>>49671547
Wasn't kicked out in the traditional sense, more like unpolitely reminded where the door is. I'll give the abridged version, since I said it in yesterday's storythread.

>play V:tR
>pick Flaw: Nightmares for my char
>4 sessions in it screws me over
>ask the ST for he extra XP
>get chewed out because he didn't know how the Flaw worked and didn't care
(He did see it on my character sheet btw)
>changes the way XP works so he can fuck me over even more
>forces me into unsolvable situations
>no NPC likes me except from the one I openly express hate

I did give him a giant middle finger in-game during my last session with them, so at least my ego left unharmed.

>>49672525
Ok. Here's the million dollar question. Were you flirting in-character or out?

>>49672578
That's possible. I have dropped hints that I would like to join ("You're playing next week? I'm jealous!) but they don't really respond and change the subject. They do play with people I don't know so it could be that.

>>49672596
Meant to add: be honest.

>>49672525
christ on a spike, if you can't tell how that is wrong, you're either stupid or a narcissist with fucked up expectations from other

you know you're not actors right?
people will take that shit seriously, it's why RPG is popular in the first place

>>49672641

Did you do anything wrong when you were a player last time? I hear that GMs sometimes make bad players, with backseat GMing.

The fact that your players change the subject and don't respond kind of makes it sound like they feel bad/guilty about it.

>>49672550
The DM said he liked it and I don't think the other players minded. Nobody was upset except the girlfriend who wasn't even in the game.

>>49672596
Mostly in character but I did like him or I wouldn't have flirted with the NPC.

>>49672768
I don't doubt that I might be a bad player, but the people I GM for at the moment have never seen me play.

>>49672782
Anon, put yourself in her shoes, as a non-gamer. You see some dumb bitch trying it on with your man while "roleplaying". What do you think your reaction would be?

>>49672782
>Mostly in character but I did like him or I wouldn't have flirted with the NPC
You are so stupid, it's a petty that woman don't have to be pro-active in social situations, else you'd have been called out for this decades ago.

>>49672848
I'm not exactly the right person to ask.

>>49672845
Maybe one of the other people did. Or maybe the other GM just doesn't like you. Maybe there's only enough spots open for them, and no more people are allowed.

>>49672870
Yeah it might be that they don't have slots. I don't think anyone dislikes me, we've been friends for a long time, still hang out and they still show up to my games.

>>49672848
This is juicy as the fuck. She jelly. Fa/tg/uys need to be with ca/tg/irls. I personally have vowed to never date someone who loves games more than one order of magnitude less than I do.

>>49672641
Progress as such until satisfied:
1. Ask them straightforward. "Do you have a seat for me at the game?"
2. Demand to know why they don't let you in. Be a little pushy if necessary. Let them know that you are upset and feel downright betrayed.
3. Disassociate yourself from them, then learn from your mistakes (even if the mistake was associating yourself with tools).
4. Revenge through living better is the best revenge.

>>49671547
Being almost ForeverGM, I've only done the kicking so far, and the kicking is directed at those irresponsible types.
>Can't show up to 50% of sessions on Tuesday, because they have an art project due on Friday.
Banned.
>Spends hundreds of dollars on cosplays and free-to-play games. Thinks "I don't have money" is an excuse to not chip in $5 for pizza.
You owe me $20. Until then. Banned.
>Schedules controllable things like dates to take place during game time. "Oh, I didn't know we had game night."
Some people need to realize that if there is a plot, and the game happens "EVERY MONDAY" (barring severe illness, death, or finals week), you are disruptive to the flow of the campaign. Nobody likes filler episodes.

>>49671547
Nobody liked you and your character was both shit and obviously didn't fit the party

"I want to play a necromancer" is a big ol red flag for any non-retarded GM, suprised he even let you play

How can you fuckers not see the damn hook 6 miles out?

>>49672278
This is the only irredeemable thing in the thread, OP most likely had it coming.

>>49672360
That's an important detail and makes it pretty understandable.

>>49672158
Do you actually know anything about 5e paladins or are you just talking out your ass?

Crown IS lawful incarnate. Ancients is all about protecting the natural order and that shit - necromancers and demons dont jive with that.

Vengeance is the only one who may turn a blind eye, if they're focused on something else. Even the the character themselves may not like necromancy/ literally summoning pure evil into the world

>>49673057
I know plenty.
Devotion is not lawful incarnate, nor called "crown". It leans toward Neutral Good the most, since it advises compassion and mercy. They would take no issue whatsoever unless the demon summoner or necromancer causes evil through their actions. It would be rather extreme to beat down the necromancer and haul them off to jail unless necromancy is actually literally illegal wherever the players are.
Ancients does suggest destroying the darkness and upholding the light, but a summoned demon is no real threat. Necromancy is also not directly contradictory, unless the undead run rampant. Oath of the Ancients do not need to seek and destroy, they only need to protect. They may take issue on principle, at least.
Vengeance can be completely antithetical (if fiends are their sworn enemy) or completely apathetic.

>>49672956
Honestly I agree.

>>49673040
Makes wanting me kicked out understandable? I don't see how.

>>49672595
Is it that they really don't get it or do they not like the Flaw or the mechanics behind it? I mean it sounds pretty passive aggressive but fundamentally the game runs how they want it, not how it says in the book, that's pretty much rule 0 for practically any rpg you'll read ever.

>>49673154
You're stepping on her turf, brosefina.

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>>49672278
>>49672542

>>49673192
He didn't get it at first, because he didn't find the rules for it. So I explained it to him and even linked him to the related page on subnet. He just started making excuses after that as to why I was an ebul metagaming rollplayer because I got a Flaw that gets triggered by circumstance and chance.

What happened was that he overlooked the rules on Nightmares, but perceived that as my trying to outsmart him so I can hoard XP and break the game. As a result, he just says "fuck you", changes the way the game functions and now my Flaw loses the logic of "in story hindrance = meta reward" for just shoving a broom up my ass and breaking the handle.

>>49673208
She can piss off. I still see him at another game where we're both players anyway, which I'm pretty sure he's learned his lesson about telling her I'm in.

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>>49672278
If you wanna play, just man up and ask them if you can play.

>>49673389
This attitude is why you were kicked out of the game. He's dating somebody else. It's douchey behavior to try to date him.

It's also typical chick behavior, so at least you're in the company of the rest of your gender.

>>49673389

>>49673553
I should correct myself. You're in the company of the worst and most average parts of your gender.

>>49671953
>tfw my mom read this chick tract on the internet and she made me stop going to a dnd group
I guess that counts.

>>49673389

For serious, anonette, how would you feel if your man were doing the same thing your GM is doing? And would you consider it acceptable for you to do this if you were going out with someone else (Assuming you aren't)?

>>49673389
Don't be that girl, anon. Nobody likes that girl. Accept he's taken and you made his gf uncomfortable and move the fuck on.

>>49673389
Ignoring the fedoras in the room who wouldn't know sexual justice, let's progress to the next step...
Has he expressed dissatisfaction about his current GF?
Does he never talk about his current GF?
Maybe you could... bring that up and suggest a remedy.

I'm a dude, but my strategy for getting GFs is like the "white knight" but it works.
Step 1: Identify injustice in relationship.
Step 2: Wait for your sword to be filled with a raging need to see justice done.
Step 3: Let your sword guide you into adventurous and sexy situations.
Step 4: Use sword to smite injustice. Repeatedly. All night if possible.

As a female, I wouldn't suggest doing more than 1st base... 2nd if you've got nice "assets" to help him along with his decision.
If he doesn't choose you after that, tell him you feel guilty about cheating on his GF (especially if you don't).
If he hasn't dropped her after a month, you may want to re-evaluate your choice.

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>>49672956
>>49673553
>>49673762

>all these

Can you please never exist again? I'll pay each of you a thousand bucks.

>>49672956
Holy shit, just how autistic are you? I literally can't tell if you're just trying to come off as full on sperg or if you are actually that bad

>>49672941
On the other hand, it could be awkward to have your current DM as a player.
After all, if your rolls go bad and you eat shit, you might take it out on them in your game.

>>49673818
I dunno. That's mighty low to not exist. I won't stop existing for less than a hundred k ghost bucks.

Also fuck off for trying to steal somebody's boyfriend through a roleplaying game, you cretinous whore. It's cringey and evil.

>>49673562
>You're in the company of the worst and most average parts of your gender.
What do you mean?

>>49673593
I have commitment issues and I've never had a steady relationship so I don't know the answer to either of those.

>>49672956
>I personally have vowed to never date someone who loves games more than one order of magnitude less than I do
>More than one order magnitude less than I do
What counts as one order magnitude?

>>49671773
This is why you ensure all DMs are celibate. Any less is a chance you shouldn't be willing to take.

>>49673921
>tfw my buddies do this to me, since one player in particular gets shit rolls all of my games.
Feelsbadman.jpg

>>49673553
First half is about how I feel. Second half is, "muh females are bad."

>>49672278
I-I'll run a game for you, a-anon.

>>49673961
ehm, I'm not the whore anon
pls no bully

>>49673976
He is saying that the average female is a horrible person.

the biggest violation here is
letting the party actively ruin each others fun

and

ruining another players fun

>>49673760
She shouldn't be so touchy. If she's really that controlling why let him game at all?

>>49673762
He hasn't complained about her but obviously if she's telling him to kick people out of his games it's not a good relationship even if he thinks it is.

>As a female, I wouldn't suggest doing more than 1st base... 2nd if you've got nice "assets" to help him along with his decision.
Seduce him away from her you mean? I don't think that would go over well with him and I wouldn't know how to anyway. Just flirting in character is far enough for me to take things. Further is up to him.

>If he doesn't choose you after that, tell him you feel guilty about cheating on his GF (especially if you don't).
>(especially if you don't).
What?

>>49673976
Dudes tend to follow a code of "don't fuck with another man's woman." We make up for this "code of honor" by also being the gender which is more full of violent jackasses.

Women, on the half, seem to be enticed by a man who's already otherwise engaged. Don't know why it is. But it's what spawns tropes like the guy who gets engaged and suddenly finds more women coming up to him.

Deny your programming. Don't chase taken men.

>>49673986
No. You get bully.

>>49674075
>just flirting in characters is enough
Dude. Stop flirting with him at all. You're not doing it 'just for the RP.' You're doing it because you like him. That's flirting. You're putting the idea in his head. No wonder his chick doesn't want you around.

If you had a boyfriend who just liked fooling around with this one chick and she constantly told him how big his dick was and how handsome he was, wouldn't you be pissed if he constantly had her around? Paranoid, even?

>>49673995
The average everybody is a horrible person. Women are particularly horrible in that way. Men are horrible in other ways.

>>49673961
>>49673986
I'm not a whore. If you don't like me, sorry but it's really none of your business.

>>49673995
Well his girlfriend is horrible and mediocre.

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>>49674172
>Rag on my friends boyfriend while trying to steal him away
>I promise I'm not a whore guys

Come the fuck on. Is this bait?

>>49674130
I've liked him since before he got a girlfriend, so that's wrong.

>>49674157
It's fun for both of us, so what's the problem? If she thinks he might not want to keep her if he finds a better girl then I'm not the problem.

And I said, I can't answer that. But what we were doing was nothing like chatting about his dick.

>>49674188
She's not my friend.

>>49674236

>its fun for both of us, so what's the problem?

Honestly, that attitude is the problem. I hear antifreeze tastes pretty good, but that doesn't mean I'm going to drink it.

>>49671547
What the hell happened to Seanbaby anyway?

Did he kill himself?

>>49674236
>She's not my friend.
Because that was clearly the issue.

>>49674236
>She's not my friend.
Don't worry, no charge for her

>>49674272
Well if she was I might feel a little worse about the whole thing.

>>49674287
What?

>>49674267
What? Who? Why?

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>>49674236
This is all further evidence you're one of those awful chicks that's all gun ho to steal a man from another. It doesn't matter if she's your friend or not. You don't take somebody else's boyfriend.

Wait until he's fuckin' single. Hell, you don't even need to give a grace period. Wait until he's broken up, then slide into his DMs, open your legs, and be like "I'm gonna treat you like that one black chick treated a dildo and a grapefruit" and fuck his pain away.

But until then... BE FUCKING CHILL.

Your friend is probably too afraid to hurt your feelings to tell you he doesn't like it, anyway. Or he's a desperate RPGfag who is overwhelmed by the fact two women want him at once.

...Probably the latter.

>>49674075
>letting him have a social life is the same as letting other girls flirt with him

>>49671897
>The character you play in this one instance of a fantasy imagination game tells me everything I need to know about you in real life.

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>>49674301
Seanbaby. The guy in OP's pic?

One-time video game blogger personality?

>>49671547
Everyone is at fault in your story. Your GM screwed up by not seeing this inter-party conflict coming, and by letting you play a demon-trafficking mage with a paladin in the party. He then doubled-down in bad decisions by asking you to leave instead of asking you to make a new character that fit the party. Your Paladin friend screwed up by immediately knocking you out and handing you over to the guards instead of, you know, talking it out and treating you like the friend and comrade he should be. And you, OP, screwed up by making an evil character and then doing evil shit behind a Paladin's back and expecting he wouldn't find out.

This is why Session Zero exists. Everyone gets together and talks about what they want out of the campaign, then they plan their characters so there won't be glaring conflicts like this. Unless they want those conflicts, at which point that's alright then. But the point is, everyone's on the same page so they know what to expect from the campaign. If someone really wants to make a Paladin, maybe don't make a Necromancer, and vice versa.

>>49674362
...The OP is Brendan Fraser, aka "fuck my shit up" memeface.

>>49674362

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

No, OP is Brendan Fraiser. He was in the Mummy.

Seanbaby is a guy who wrote (and maybe he still does) for Cracked.com

>>49674236
>I've liked him since before he got a girlfriend, so that's wrong.
That probably means he doesn't like you and just is too nice to remove you from his life directly.

>>49674172
>it's really none of your business.
You posted it here, you stupid nigger.

>>49674331
I can't steal a human being. I'm not going to make any moves anyway, just roleplay in character like before. If he does dump her, at this point it's her own fault.

I'm pretty sure he does like it because we've been friends for ages and he was the one who invited me into the second game he didn't run after she nagged him into kicking me out of his own game. If he hadn't liked me back, why invite me?

>>49674336
She's pretty and probably gets hit on by other guys all the time herself.

>>49674379
>>49674382
Hah, I got them confused. Fuckers look too stupid and similar.

>>49674362
Dude. That's Brendan Fraser. From the Mummy.

Seanbaby probably faded into irrelevance because he wrote for literally the most cucked site, Cracked.

Normally I wouldn't use "cucked" but when one of your writers is so into Social Justice that he tweet pictures of his nine year-old daughter to a pedophile transvestite in order to 'cheer him up' after it was revealed he's both a man and a pedophile... it's like... holy fucking shit, dude.

The depths of depravity there.

But I could be misremembering it's Cracked. It's foggy. I do remember they let Zoe Quinn write an article to try to defend herself with lies during Five Guys.

>>49674267
He's the liartownusa guy.

>>49674388
He's probably just too socially inept or has commitment issues like me.

>You posted it here, you stupid nigger.
I posted a story not an invitation to get judged and told how to act.

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>>49674397
You can be his friend without him wanting to fuck you, and with him hoping you'll stop being such a creep.

>>49674397
Yeah. Those guys are creeps. Like you.

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>>49671547
/tg/'s obsession with "Yes, but" leads to shit like this happening. DM should have said no right off the bat. Also, why would you make a character like that in a good aligned party? What would possess you to think that wasn't a time bomb?

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>>49673553

>>49674397
>If he hadn't liked me back, why invite me?
Maybe he's a nice person and was considering your feelings?

>She's pretty and probably gets hit on by other guys all the time herself.
And if there was one particular that flirted with him regularly, he'd be justified for getting involved.

>>49674425
>He's probably just too socially inept or has commitment issues like me.
He has a girlfriend. You're single and bitter.

>I posted a story not an invitation to get judged
The two things are inherently the same. If you want to pretend they're not, you can do it on tumblr.

>>49674429
If that's all he wants then that's what I'll settle for, and the in-game stuff.

>>49674440
He is a nice person, that's why I like him.

Well maybe she'll get involved. But hopefully he now knows not to make the mistake of letting her know he's still playing with me.

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>>49674465
You're encouraging your friend to be a liar and a cheat. You're literally the chick that fathers warn their sons about.

I don't know what you look like, but your personality looks like this:

>>49674465
>hopefully my friend knows he should see me in secret and not communicate with his girlfriend
There is no interpretation of this situation where you're the good guy.

>>49674449
Either tell him you like him or stop. Fa/tg/uys can be notoriously dense. And if you just want to flirt with him, tell him.

>>49674449
Wouldn't you be bitter if someone got you kicked out of a game you enjoyed that they weren't even in our of sheer envy?

Fine, judge me all you want, but I'm not going to take any notice of unhelpful posts.

>>49674485
I'm not encouraging anything. If she's that controlling and he's going to ignore her controllingness, then better it's with me than anybody else.

>>49674526
You are literally encouraging your male friend, who who have sexual desires for, to lie to his current girlfriend so you can continue to flirt with him.

Kind of easy to see why you haven't had a relationship before.

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>>49674526
It's not envy. It's jealousy.

You have nothing she wants. You're trying to take something she has.

And it's not controlling to want your boyfriend to be loyal and stop hanging out with girls trying to fuck him. Holy shit you're self-involved.

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>>49672278
This is so incredibly sad. I'm sorry, anon.

>>49674526
>I'm not going to take any notice of unhelpful posts.
>everyone who disagrees with me is trolling!

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>>49674575

>>49674575
>Kind of easy to see why you haven't had a relationship before.
Well let's see if I can't get one then.

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>>49674592

>>49674618

>has trust issues
>thinks it's a great idea to start a relationship by sabotaging another one, potentially getting her prospective partner to cheat on his previous relationship

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>>49674618
This is the worst way to go about it. Especially if you're a chick.

Even if you're only average looking, all you need to find a man is go to a bar and -be there-. Or if you can't drink, go to a club at school. Some guy will come up to you. Or you can approach some guy and watch him get flustered.

You're doing what every beta-male stuck in the friendzone does. You're putting the penis on a pedestal. Go out there and find someone who is single and wants you -- or who will break up with their girlfriend at the sight of you. Don't wage some guerrilla war against your friend, trying to wear him down until he cheats.

>>49674618

Then get one with someone else who's single.

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>Half dragon paladin
>Red in color
>People assume I'm evil
>Probably because I kinda am
>Oath of Vengeance fits with evil god
>Sabotage team along the journey by luring enemies.
>Entire party opposes me.
>Charisma high enough to get away with it.
>Got away with rape and killing an enemy we were going to interrogate.
>TFW they can't simmer the half dragon Zimmer.

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>>49674618
Taking someone who's willing to cheat on their lover, away from said lover, is pretty much a recipe for instant karma turnaround.

This isn't some superstition, it's just basic logic. Stop thinking with your d... clit.

>>49674649
I don't have trust issues, I have commitment issues.

And I'm not getting him to cheat, not that it would be wrong if he did. In fact nothing would make me happier than him being unable to cheat on his previous relationship, by it ending.

>>49674663
>>49674681
I don't want some random dude. Anyway even if I did somehow get a boyfriend from outside the game, which by the way is more or less my only circle of friends, he'd only stop me from going to game night if he's as controlling as you guys seem to think a partner has a right to be.

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>>49674695
>rape
>That Guy Intensifies

>>49674695
>>Charisma high enough to get away with it.
And the chances of this happening just went to -10%

>>49674706
I'm not. I'm thinking with my heart and my brain. You know me or him so why you think you know what we like about each other I don't know.

>>49674721
...and you will be in that girl's shoes within six months. You have been warned. Nothing will drop you for an upgrade faster than a guy who suddenly realizes he can pick and choose.

>>49674725
I made the excuse that it pertains to my religion and oath. It is required of my character to kill what he defines as evil. The other members consisted of a barbarian, rogue, and some warlock.

>>49674721

>getting him to cheat, not that it would be wrong

Hold up, unpack this. Why is cheating not wrong, in this case or in general (whichever is more applicable)?

>>49673762
>"Ignoring the fedoras in the room"
>proceeds to post the most cringeworthy load of bilge i have ever seen
Proof that 'fedora' is only every used as a pejorative by massive insecure nerds attacking the only people who can feasibly seen as nerdier than themselves

Reading this post makes my skin crawl

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>>49674721
>commitment doesnt involve trust

If your commitment issues aren't your ability to trust people, then it's because you fuck everything that'll let you and you're a relentless cheat.

You're the worst.

>>49674723
I do not have the desire to go into a descriptive rambling. I just said it occurred whilst my character was on watch.

I am that guy to a degree because I make lewds of the entire party.

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Well I'm glad this thread is orbiting around a lazy cunt shitposting about his made up relationship.

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>>49674780
Anybody who says "female" and isn't talking about animals should make your skin crawl.

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>>49674785

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>Be rando player
>Decide to join a game with a friend as a sorc
>Butt heads with another player in terms of character ego
>Guy likes to hit on all the important female character and tried to make all the decisions as the paladin
>He likes to take arguments to OOC, usually results in him yelling obsessively until his point is "correct"
>Eventually get sick of his shit
>I make it known to the GM that if he keeps this up, one day I'll get back at him
>Years go by
>GM has GM burnout, different player takes up the GM mantle.
>Me and other player are good buds, both of us plan the death of Guy's character
>I roll up a criminal who has gotten away with murder, which the party finds out relatively quickly through the quest board
>They question me about it, but I just say the guy had it coming
>They let me stay, regardless
>Few sessions go by, Guy starts acting up again
>He's playing the same character under a different name

>>49674721
>I don't have trust issues, I have commitment issues.
You mean you have issues with deserving to be trusted.

>not that it would be wrong if he did.
It would be wrong. See, shit like this is why nobody considers you worth committing to.

>he'd only stop me from going to game night if he's as controlling as you guys seem to think a partner has a right to be.
He'd stop you from flirting with other guys, yes. But you shouldn't actually need him to do so. You shouldn't be doing that shit in the first place.

>>49674789

That looks like a lot of fun. Did anyone else see the Hitler?

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>>49674816

>I notice his HP is low, and I have a small garrison of soldiers under my command
>I give the DM the signal, he responds that he's ready
>Rolls ensue, four criticals in a row
>Guy freaks out questioning what's happening
>I turn off my mic, bracing for the coming explosion
>Previous DM is disappointed, but saw it coming
>DM announces that Guy is dead, tells him that he had been betrayed.
>Several years of no player deaths and then backstab in the party feels good
>Guy rages and hangs up, party goes silent
>A week goes by and New DM messages me, letting me know that he's ready to continue.
>Rest of the group doesn't show up, but we have a good time anyway.

>>49674795
Yeah, don't worry, it does.
But in the context of that post it was one of the least offensive parts.

>>49674756
I won't be as controlling and mediocre as his current girlfriend and he's going to have trouble finding another girl who knows him as well as I do or enjoys his hobbies as much. So I'm not worried. And if he does, I hope I'll have the good grace to accept it and not try yo control him to prevent it from happening.

>>49674765
Because she doesn't respect him, tries to control him and would probably cheat before he would if the situation was reversed.

>>49674721
To Tobe fair, we don't know if this guy's girlfriend knows you are trying to coerce him into leaving her for you. It just so happens her suspicions about your intentions are correct.

>>49674856
>I won't be as controlling and mediocre as his current girlfriend
He likes her, you know? If you can't respect his choices, she's probably better for him than you would be.

>I hope I'll have the good grace to accept it
If you don't have the good grace to accept this one, why would you for another?

>>49674856
>Because she doesn't respect him, tries to control him and would probably cheat before he would if the situation was reversed.
Based on what? My girlfriend is a player in the group I DM and if someone was hitting on her ''''in character'''' I'd probably kick them too. It's not controlling, it's the fact that someone hitting on my girlfriend would make me uncomfortable and ruin my fun of the game. If she asked me to kick someone who was hitting on me and making her uncomfortable I probably would too. That's just being considerate to your significant other.

>>49674827
You.
Go watch Blazing Saddles.

>>49672961
I don't know I think it would be fun to try and hide from the party the fact that I'm a necromancer.

>>49674856

>Because she doesn't respect him, tries to control him and would probably cheat before he would if the situation was reversed.

So why does that make his cheating acceptable?

>>49674910
It could be fun, if the rest of the party agrees out of character. There are some good story ideas there, but they are rarely executed well.

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>>49674835
Holy shit. That's worse than getting kicked. Party straight up abandoned you to your evil.

>>49674856
>mediocre
Projecting.

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>>49674827

>>49674783
>>49674824
I have issues, I know I do. I can sit around and remind myself what a bad person I am like you lot would like or I can get on with life and make the best of it.

>See, shit like this is why nobody considers you worth committing to.
Nasty. We'll see.

>>49674871
I've never tried to coerce anyone. She watched a session, so she probably saw the chemistry. Hence wanting me kicked.

>>49674921
Because the woman you are responding to is among the living reminders of why philosophy, psychology, and religion held the belief that women are incapable of having principles and are innately evil for so long. And they were right......though the same is true of most men.

She'll learn the hard way - most people do.

>>49674952
I still don't feel any regrets, it was my first time ever playing as an evil character and it felt like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders. I still feel good about it.
I later attempted to consolidate Guy with an apology but he didn't want anything of it.
The good friend that had invited me to the game gave me a pass, and the DM is still working out his setting now that he's focusing on an evil character in his campaign. There are others joining, different friends, and honestly it's a breath of fresh air out of the party that I had been with for so long.

>>49672782
>Mostly in character but I did like him or I wouldn't have flirted with the NPC.

That rewrites your original post then doesn't it.
"I liked this guy and flirted with him by making my character flirt with NPCs he controlled. Then his girlfriend had me kicked out of the game because I was flirting with her boyfriend and she could tell I was really coming on to him and I crossed the line from harmless flirting into trying to steal someone else's boyfriend."

>>49674890
I do respect his choices and accept his choise of girlfriend. But I'll be there for him when he gets fed up with a girl who doesn't and tries to make his choices for him.

>>49674903
She's the type. By the way, letting your SO have people kicked out of the game is serious favoritism.

>>49675007
Or you could actually make an effort to not be a bad person any more.

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>>49675010
I'm gonna post Al Bundy again.

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>>49675063
I can't believe you're seriously this self centered about yourself, honestly. I can't tell if you're just being creepy or autistic or even, crazily enough, both.

>>49675063
Just tell him you want him already.

>>49674921
He isn't cheating and I'm not encouraging him to.

>>49675010
Gee, no need to blame my entire gender. I have principles, more than most women even, you just don't like or understand them.

>>49671547
It's your own damn fault for summoning demons, which can break the leash and wipe you instead of animating the evil dead and outfitting them with bows as a penalty of "death, plus hard labor".

But you're probably trying to hide some level of noxious faggotry like we can't smell it on you.

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>>49675088
I'm stealing this Rare meme. Thanks.

Have a Rare Pokemon in return.

>>49675117
holds memes like my yugioh cards ... go fish

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>>49675107
No. You literally have less principles. You're trying to seduce someone out from under somebody else.

See>>49675087

>>49674397
> If he hadn't liked me back, why invite me?
Make up numbers in RPG group.

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>>49675127
You underestimate my power.

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>>49675107
>I have principles
>And I'm not getting him to cheat, not that it would be wrong if he did.

>>49675030
>and I crossed the line from harmless flirting into trying to steal someone else's boyfriend."
Were you there? She just decided she didn't like it. There was no line for me to know in advance between harmless and what she's go mad over.

>>49675082
I'm not a bad person. You just want to convince me I am.

>>49675087
I don't understand women like her.

>>49674795
> using a word for what it means hurts my feelings!

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>>49675144

>>49675157
>I'm not a bad person.
Then don't act like one.

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Everyone gobbling up the bait........
Here's a secret,
>she is a he

>>49675089
He almost certainly knows.

>>49675131
Or and is this so hard to believe, he likes me too.

>>49675178
I am willing to bet money that he does not know. Talk to him and act like adults.

>>49675173
Unlikely. While it would explain why the DM doesn't want to fuck her, would the girlfriend really be jealous over that?

>>49675148
Like I said, you just don't like or understand them.

>>49675169
I don't. Accept it.

>>49675173
I'm beginning to see why there are so few ca/tg/irls.

>>49675063
>By the way, letting your SO have people kicked out of the game is serious favoritism.

OMG NEWS FLASH THIS JUST IN:
Boyfriend shows preferential treatment to girlfriend. World stunned that someone in committed relationship would ever show favouritism to object of affection. More on this unprecedented turn of events as situation develops.

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>>49675163

>>49675178
>He almost certainly knows.
Do not underestimate male stupidity, particularly in this regard.

But better yet, save yourself some inevitable future heartbreak, and go find some guy who doesn't have a girlfriend.

>>49675160
It doesn't hurt my feelings, it's just a creepily detached way of talking about human beings that is almost always used by weirdos.
But you know, keep trying to fit everything you disagree with into your perception of what a 'SJW' looks like.

>>49675209
>I don't.
That would be believable if you hadn't spent the whole thread explaining exactly the opposite.

>>49675215
Well, unlike most situations where that occurs, in this case, GM did the right thing. Removing potential temptation.

...Granted, then he turned around and secretly invited her back, apparently. But, well, dicks make us stupid.

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>>49675217
replace /v/ with /tg/ and video with tabletop and it's a pretty thematically appropriate reaction to this entire thread

>>49675209
>there are so few ca/tg/irls.
There's not, really. There's just few that fill threads with their personal relationship drama. So the gender is, not being relevant to traditional games, not actually made apparent.

>>49675203
I asked for our characters to be lovers. After spending a game flirting with his NPCs most sessions. I think he knows.

>>49675206
He's saying I made it all up. Because apparently that is preferable to believing someone could disagree with his standards on controlling your partner or flirting with people who like you.

>>49675264
>I think he knows.
You are seriously underestimating how dense a man can be.

>>49675206
Unless, holy crap, maybe, just maybe,
>that too is a lie.
Look at the response, its attention city.

If I didn't want to be bored one evening I too would pretend I was a woman and say some borderline autistic shit.

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>>49672278
Similar story
>Group will only play 3.p
>Suggest trying out 5e
>Regular DM doesn't want to bother
>Offer to run one-shot
>Rarely run games myself but put in a lot of effort
>Memorize as many rules as I can to answer any questions
>Everyone has fun, enjoys the system
>Regular DM decides the next campaign will be 5e
>Doesn't invite me
>No one tells me

>>49675248
Well, if this whole situation was gender swapped, we'd just be calling the guy a dick.

The difference is, he'd accept the label, as it's perfectly acceptable for a guy to be a dick.

But this chick is all "I'm principled! [Really I am!]", while clearly not understanding what the term means.

No, you're chaotic evil. Admit it, revel in it, or change your ways.

>>49675229
I'm anti-SJW and I'm the guy who left the Beavis comment.

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>>49675264
So flirting with NPCs equals hitting on the man himself?
Man that must make a shit ton of /tg/ players gay as fuck for that manmeat for RPing females who have a romantic interest in soul-less beings.

>>49675215
If you're going to play a cooperative game like roleplay, especially as FM, you need to take the responsibility to be fair and impartial. And kicking people out because someone nobody but you knows who isn't even in the game says so isn't fair.

>>49675238
I'm not a bad person just because you don't like me.

>>49675293
>Implying guys who ERP with others guys aren't gay as fuck.

>Hey guys some guys were mean to me and I'm a girl and my feelings were hurt so pity me and my gender

I thought this board was for games

>>49675296
I don't dislike you. I don't care about you. But you spent this entire thread explaining exactly how and why you are a bad person while saying you're not.

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>>49675264
>Lovers

You're literally the worst. No wonder his girlfriend doesn't want you around.
Is your name Britta?

>>49675285
This is typical chick behavior. Why are you surprised?

>Let me complain about my troubles to the world! They will sympathize~
>Fuck, they realized I'm the villain...

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>>49675299
This reminds me of a short story
>Player decides to play as a female warlock for the first time
>Usually plays as the male
>Decides to go to the brothel and get massive cocks
>gets paid for their work in the brothel, but then gets angry when found pregnant
>berates the GM for making his female characer pregnant
>says "I never got pregnant as a guy!"
>tfw

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>>49675296
No, if flirting with another woman through role play makes your girlfriend uncomfortable, kicking said would-be seductress out gives you the moral high ground by default. (Particularly when the threat is apparently more real than imagined.)

Lying about the damage rolls and loot results to favor your GF, now that would be wrong. (If, well, typical.)

...as would secretly re-inviting said would-be seductress.

>>49672956
>I personally have vowed to never date someone who loves games more than one order of magnitude less than I do.
You couldn't just say "who loves games as much as I do"?

>>49675285
>But this chick is all "I'm principled! [Really I am!]", while clearly not understanding what the term means.
>No, you're chaotic evil. Admit it, revel in it, or change your ways.
I have different standards. Is that so hard to get?

>>49675293
I've played male characters and flirted in character with female characters played by male players. Does that make me lesbian? I don't think so. But the DM does like me out of character too in this case.

>>49675355
Well, he definitely should have talked to her about it first though. inb4 he totally did, and also talked to the other players and they all agreed that it was necessary

>>49675361
His vow is more realistic and practical than yours is.

>>49675157
Boyfriends and girlfriends tend to be protective and pick up on things like "this other person likes my SO". Assuming it's you in all the other posts, you've gone on to say in your other posts that you want him. You're flirting with a guy you're romantically interested in in the hopes to get him as a BF. There's the line. Just because you were so stupid not to see it doesn't make me need to have been there.

>>49675380
>I have different standards.
Chaotic evil standards.

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GMs can be evil.

>Saturday
>Guys. I'll email you next week about the place and time. Let's aim for next Friday.
>Okay.
>Everybody splits.
>Wednesday. No news.
>Ask a girl on a date. She's available Friday.
>Thursday
>Okay guys, let's do Friday from 5-9.
>"I can't do it. Why no heads up?"
>"Oh my god. If you can't even make it to the first session wtf. Find another group."

Jesus fucking christ.

>>49674948
Especially if there's a paladin in the group.

So since this is just another /relationships/ thread, I'll just ask away.

What's wrong with necromancers? New to the whole /tg/ thing and I always thought necromancers were kind of cool. I'm assuming its just a typical "only assholes play this" type of thing, or is there a valid reason to hate them.

>>49671547
Things like this tend to happen when there's a demon-summoning necromancer and a paladin in the same party.

It's better to nip these problems in the bud: if you know that you and another player have characters that suspect will be butting heads, talk about it before starting the game.

>>49675326
>You're literally the worst. No wonder his girlfriend doesn't want you around.
We get it.

>Is your name Britta?
Nope. Story?

>>49675355
>...as would secretly re-inviting said would-be seductress.
I wasn't re-invited. The game carried on without me, despite having been a long running game which I was deeply involved in. He invited me to a different game when it started that he was a player in. And we're having a great time. Without anybody asking for me to be kicked.

>>49673389
>tfw when only femanons browsing /tg/ are this bitchy and autistic
gf never reeeee

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>>49675380
By the DM are you still talking about that guy that you're fiendishly trying to seduce through a tabletop game?

If so, there's a difference of playing along versus actually getting self insert interest out of it. Not everyone will self insert themselves in their characters, let alone NPCs when they're the DM.

You're seriously taking this thing way out of proportion and honestly, I feel really bad for this guy. Even if he doesn't know how you feel about it, he's already in a committed? relationship.

You clearly haven't been respecting his or her boundaries on that aspect considering what you've been telling us throughout this entire thread. You're self centered beyond belief, and expect to gain pity from complete strangers on the internet.

Honestly? Shame on you.

>>49675431
>Story?
You're a B

>>49675436
No, the only ones whose gender becomes a thread-derailing issue are like this.

>>49675380
>I have different standards. Is that so hard to get?
You are holding actions to different standards based on how they pertain to yourself (cheating on her is okay, cheating on me is not), which is, by definition, unprincipled.

See, the whole concept behind principles is that they are universally standard and unbreakable, and don't change simply because they do or don't work in your favor. You don't get to have "different standards", you're either principled, or you're not.

Just admit you're a dick and be prepared for the inevitable consequences as you are dicked over in turn.

>>49675429
Nothing is inherently wrong with playing playing a Necromancer. It just attracts people like OP. Talk to your group and say 'hey, I want to play a necromancer because I think [insert reasons here] and it would be fun and/or cool. What do you think?' And you will avoid 95% of the problems.

>>49675389
Real life social interaction isn't D&D. I never play CE characters.

>>49675397
Date a girl in the game. Never miss a single session to be with her.

>>49675476
>I never play CE characters.
Except in real life.

>>49675475
Okay cool thanks anon. I've just seen a lot of hate on /tg/ for necromancers and wasn't sure if I was missing something.

>>49675475
I kinda suspect, in OP's case, they didn't really want him to play to begin with, and thus didn't object when he said, "I wann aplay sekrat necropheliac demon shummoner in Pallydon's party!"

...Plus, well, he got caught, and shoulda expected to die then and there. (The fact that he didn't - and they dragged it out - adds further credence to this theory.)

>>49675429
Mostly depends on the flavor of necromancer. If you just use undead or other questionable means towards the end of helping your party, all's the better. But the assholery starts when your character begins flagrantly summoning demons and sacrificing whores around a bunch of LG characters.

>>49674618
If they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you.

>>49675436
Most the femanons around don't feel the need to mention that they have a vagina and want to fuck the DM in front of his girlfriend. i.e. you only know someone is a femanon because they make it important for the sole purpose of gaining attention and are thus a bitchy person in general. However since its a girl you think its some special occurrence and it sticks in your memory. If it was a guy saying how he wants to fuck his female DM you wouldn't think twice about it. Which is not calling this some huge sexist behavior or something. That's just how it works, especially in hobbies dominated by a specific gender. When someone of a different gender does something stupid it sticks out as extra unique.

>>49675436
>this bitchy and autistic
That's what I get for not giving up as quickly as you would have?

>>49675441
Who do you think I am?

>>49674362

Jesus christ what a pathetic mohawk. That's like the equivilant to people losing their hair to baldness, but instead of just shaving it off they leave that shit up there as if nobody will notice.

>>49675518
This, so much this, but she won't believe it no matter how much you tell her. Hell, she won't believe if HE tells her. I know, cuz I've been that guy, more than once.

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>>49675534
A toaster with no sense of moral decisions when it comes to respecting other people's relationships.

>>49675451
My gender is thread-derailing now? Now my romantic antics whichever gender I am? I sense a double standard.

>>49675466
>You are holding actions to different standards based on how they pertain to yourself (cheating on her is okay, cheating on me is not), which is, by definition, unprincipled.
I never held different standards. I wouldn't be as controlling as she is and if he decided to leave me for someone else I'd accept it with grace instead of trying to control his social life so that that can't happen. You're making up things I never said just so you can judge me.

>>49675532
>If it was a guy saying how he wants to fuck his female DM you wouldn't think twice about it.
Well, if it was a guy, saying he wanted to pilfer said grrrl DM from another guy, and then tried to insist, "But I'm a good guy!" - we'd call him on his bullshit just as quickly.

But if he claimed Chaddism, we'd all be, "Whatevs, cuck that beta."

>>49675580
... you literally just just said just said yup justsaidyuhav different standards.

>>49675585
Well that's actually what I meant. It'd be called out for douchey behavior and dropped. There wouldn't be a "all girls are whores" and 200 posts about this topic.

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ITT: A beta landwhale blogs about her relationship issues while /tg/ takes the bait.

Please stop.

>>49675518
>>49675556
Except nobody's going to be cheating on anybody.

>>49675585
So just imagine it's the same here? Why the big deal?

>>49675178
If he knows you like him and hasn't said anything about it, then he doesn't like you back, it's literally that simple. Or he likes his girlfriend more than you and you need to back the fuck up anyway because you're not getting any.

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>>49675643
>Land Ho!
>realizes it's not land
>It's a whale

>>49675640
Calling you out for being a douche and their issues with women are two separate issues.

>>49675649
>Except nobody's going to be cheating on anybody.
I didn't either... Just drifted from chick to chick as each pulled me away from the other in a chain of crazed youth that didn't end for nearly a decade, leaving a trail of blood and broken hearts, resulting in a suicide at some point...

...man I'm old, and a dick...

>>49675669
>implications that women can't also be douchebags what
>Oh wait, they're called bitches
Synonyyyymmmssssss

>>49675632
If I was as controlling and horrid as she is then he should dump my ass just as quickly as he should dump hers.

>>49675653
Well he invited me to the game even after she got him to kick me from the last one, so I'll try and prove you wrong.

>>49673107
Not the same Anon but Crown is a completely different oath from the Sword Coast Adventurers Guide.........

>>49675649
Except you're claiming you're principled and that it'd be okay if he cheated with you, hence you are being called on your bullshit, just as any guy would be for doing the same.

See, that's the difference. Chad knows he's a dick, and is proud of it. (Not that we don't hate Chad too.)

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>>49675441
She's a G.D.B.

She's a no good B.

>>49674906

I saw it years ago. I might just do it again.

>>49675706
See >>49675438
Try not to hit on the characters pretending that they're him, it's not gonna work.
Grab him by the balls, that might, he's obviously a beta.

>>49675487
The same thing goes for a lot of things /tg/ tends to hate, none of them are universally bad, but most of them take a careful and skilled player to pull off well, because more often than not do they attract shitty That Guy players instead, causing the bad rep.

>>49675684
Edgy. But we're good enough friends who get on well enough that I can't see him drifting away from me.

>>49675713
If he cheats on her that's between the two of them. It's not my business if he prefers a girl other than her. But it's my prerogative to be that girl if I can.

>>49675534
Yes, that's what you get for not giving up when it becomes obvious your labours will bear no fruit, and are causing damage to your friend/object of affection's personal life. Funny how you can't wrap your head around principles being a universal thing, but want to believe "giving up" is universally bad.
I also give up on chomping down when I bite my tongue, most people would view this as a good decision.

>>49675734
Yeah, do that. What could go wrong?

>>49675758
>Edgy. But we're good enough friends who get on well enough that I can't see him drifting away from me.

You ought to remember that life is a one man journey with occasional company.

>>49675734
I have to admit, I've more than once not realized a girl was into me until I was, literally, into her. ...If you know what I mean... LIKE WITH MY DICK!

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>>49675768
What indeed?

>>49675706
As has already been said, he's being nice, and if you're to be believed, you guys are friends. It is natural to spend time with and hangout with friends. Inviting you to play tabletop games in a group setting doesn't mean he wants to fuck you.

>>49675758
>Edgy. But we're good enough friends who get on well enough that I can't see him drifting away from me.
By the gods you are fucked.

Meh, not surprising though. I've seen this cycle far too many times.

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>>49675788
An anon with sense appears!
Purge him, purge with fire and brimstone until there are none!

>>49675441
>>49675715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5XlcdAyoM

>>49675438
>>49675734
We've been friends for years and share more hobbies than any of either of our other friends. I respect his boundaries. I accepted getting kicked out of the game without a fuss. So he knows I'm not self-centered and that's why he was comfortable inviting me to the new game.

>>49675806
I can't watch this.
I have a Britta filter.

>>49675822
Then he definitely doesn't realize it.

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>>49674835
>supposed to be a thread about games you got kicked out of
>posts about how he basically kicked everyone else out

>>49675822
He just thinks you are friends.
TELL HIM YOU LIKE HIM.
He might even prefer you.

>>49675765
I can accept him dating somebody else. And my principles are universal. And I'm not damaging his personal life or he wouldn't have got me invited to the next game he was in.

>>49675788
Then I'll settle for just flirting in character like I always have before.

>>49675241
I mostly agree. Removing temptation is a good step but I think a first step should have been more like: Ask player to tone down flirting.

I think a lot of people see a behaviour they don't like, don't say anything about it or say things in obscure ways that can't be deciphered, then get majorly upset when behaviour goes on. You know, the old 'when she says... what he hears is... but what she means is...' schtick. Not saying this is what happened but imagine...

GF: That girl flirts with you a lot.
DM/BF: Yeah, her character is pretty flirtatious.

Conversation stops here but probably gets repeated over weeks in various forms, nothing changes, GF gets more upset.

GF should have continued: No, the girl flirts too much with you. Not her character.

And this is often the level of detail where conversations stop. Conversation goes on but never gets to heart of the matter. There's an implied message but it's unstated and ineffective.

GF in this little role play conversation needed to continue: I don't feel comfortable with her flirting so much with you. Please ask her to stop.

What's the point of being in a romantic relationship if you can't point out something simple like feelings and desires in a direct way? DM/BF can then either comply, disagree, reassure GF that what ever female player is doing has no meaning for DM/BF, or whatever. For all we know this is all some sort of catfish, and even if it's real we have only one point of view, DM might not like player at all so there was no temptation on his part.

>>49675822
It's not only about his boundaries, anon. It's also bout his girlfriend's boundaries.
When considering a person's relationship, you have to think about both sides of it, not just the person that you're interested in.

I know this may be a bit difficult since we aren't a hive-minded species, but attempts should be made. If you infringe upon someone else's space in regards to their relationship, they're going to let their partner know so that they can figure something out.

Him reinviting you is your second chance to not fuck up, if you don't fuck up then you're probably good to go.. Though honestly I don't expect much.

No matter what happens though, you should come back and tell us what happened, maybe it'll go down in /tg/ history, for better or for worse.

My bet is on worse

>>49675643

I'm just sitting here thinking this is all centered around a group of teens or incredibly early 20's people. There's just no fucking way this trainwreck of a situation is happening with adults.

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>>49675849

Stop giving this anon attention, holy shit /tg/.

>>49675849
We can easily tell stories about how individuals were so terrible, they got kicked from groups. We occasionally get stories of groups so terrible that individuals leave them. But if the narrator is sore about being kicked, then clearly the group was okay or they would have left, and we're just looking at the first car through the eyes of the offender. The thread was a thatguy trap and got at least two.

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>>49675827
You cheeky cunt.

>>49675852
As soon as I have the right way.

>>49675865
The girlfriend watched one session and had him kick me in time for the next weekly session.

You're right they don't communicate as well as partners should though.

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>>49675905
But in that story, who was the real That Guy?

>>49671547
Stated this before, you might recognise me

>DM's Girlfriend is "Co gm"
>She decides to introduce a character
>"Surprise kender"
>FUCK
> She starts pilfering from everyone
> I decide to be a dick and lookout for myself
> GM starts trying desperately to kill me after this... I know what must be done
>Kender steals something for the last time
>Berserker rage
>Get Kender to -1 hp
> GM "Suddenly a white light blinds you"
> End session
> Kicked out of group


No
Regrets.

>>49675758
>If he cheats on her that's between the two of them. It's not my business if he prefers a girl other than her. But it's my prerogative to be that girl if I can.
Well, for starters, if he cheats on her, with you, then it's not just between the two of them... And unless you're some sorta borderline personality disorder psycho that's perfectly fine with being cheated on yourself, then it's a serious violation of principle for you to do that to the both of them.

If, on the other hand, you could admit it'd be wrong, but you just would like it to happen anyways, that'd be another thing. I mean, you'd still be a bitch, but at least you wouldn't be a hypocrite blind to the fact.

Living life to its fullest and pretending you're a good person, when you clearly aren't, are two very different things, in the long run.

>>49675947
>kender
Instantly unbelievable, I refuse to believe anyone would openly play such a retarded race.

Let alone a GM insane enough to allow it

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>>49675947
>pic related is the co gm

>>49675884
>It's also bout his girlfriend's boundaries.
Not my business. I don't know her, she's not one of the players, not my concern.

>>49675960
I wouldn't force him to kick players out or share basically no hobbies with him if he was my boyfriend though.

>>49675963
It happened.
Again she was the girlfriend of the GM. I kinda got turned off on D&D after that to be perfectly honest.
unfortunately

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>>49675989
Then how are you so assblasted by this woman?

>>49675989
>I wouldn't force him to kick players out or share basically no hobbies with him if he was my boyfriend though.
That has no bearing on whether it's okay for him to cheat on her with you.

>>49675993
Kenders will do that.

>>49675998
She literally got me kicked from a game my best friend was running, who's been my DM since before he even knew her and taught me to play the game. Wouldn't you be pissed off?

>>49676007
I'm just saying maybe if she was closer to him then he wouldn't end up having better chemistry with a different woman. He has so much in common with me that wouldn't happen so easily to me if he was my boyfriend.

>>49676020
If only Harold Johnson had realized the hell he was about to unleash on the gaming world, maybe TSR wouldn't have gone bankrupt.

>>49676020
I wish I didn't have such limited options playing D&D. The only other option was a guy who played nothing but 2nd edition and was constantly in and out of surgery so I'd be lucky if I got a game in once every two months.

still better than that fuckfest though.

>>49676041
Before I answer that first question, for what reason did she get you kicked? Did the DM tell you why? Or was there no explanation?

>>49676050
He said it was because she didn't like me flirting in character with his NPCs. Which I believe.

>make undead Necromancer
>DM suggests I could make him a former lich through some house rules for how a lich works
>other players find out
>character looks like a somewhat tolerably ugly zombie
>smells like a corpse
>shady about his background
>doesn't remember being a lich himself, only that he's a zombie
>entire party does arcana and medicine checks because I'm a weird ugly smelly gnome summoning undead
>every single of their checks is under 6
>15 sessions and several in-game months in
>they still don't suspect me and think I'm just a smelly ugly old man
>playing a lich in the same party as a cleric and paladin

OP, just talk to your DM about that shit beforehand, come up with some emergency solution and try to get his input about it. Most importantly: have a back-up character ready. If mine ever dies the DM willlet him revive at the phylactery, take me out of the party for a bit and let me rejoin as my new character, using the old one as an NPC later on.

>>49675993
You gotta play with your CoC. Or Warhammer.

DND sucks anyhow.

>>49676050
She was flirting with the DM through an NPC he was playing, and the GF saw the session recording.

Now I get her hating this girl for taking away her long time friend, who she apparently wasn't smart enough to make a move on BEFORE he picked up this girl...

>>49676041
>I'm just saying maybe if she was closer to him then he wouldn't end up having better chemistry with a different woman.
...But it's, still, wrong.

Even if she's beating him bloody every day and draining his bank accounts while addicting him to heroin, it's still wrong.

Not saying you can't do it - but you don't get to claim the moral high ground in the process.

>>49676067
Right, you were flirting in character with her boyfriend's NPCs. Wouldn't that make you mad if someone did that to you while you had a boyfriend? Especially if it happened every week, and you knew that they liked him? Plotting to steal him away from you?

As to answer your question, no, I wouldn't be mad, because it's just a tabletop game. If I'm friends with someone I'm interested in, I'd outright let them know instead of trying to ERP with their NPCs as some passive aggressive attempt to get them.

>>49676043
>Harold Johnson
?

TSR didn't get bought out by WotC until 13 years after DL1.

>>49675361
I'm not the anon but "as much as I do" != "at least one order of magnitude less than I do" so no, anon couldn't write that and say the same thing.

Real problem is that anon wrote and I think you misparsed:
> never date someone who loves games
> more than
> one order of magnitude less than I do

x = order of mag anon loves games
x - 1 = one order of mag less than this

So, never...more than x-1

Assuming decimal order of magnitude, anon wrote:
Only date someone who love games
less than or equal to
one tenth the amount that I love games
Or
Anon will only date you if you like games a lot less than he likes games.

>>49676046
Someday you'll move to the big city.

...and hopefully play something other than D&D.

>>49675924
The right way? That's just a bad excuse.
The best way is to tell him honestly and sincerely. Tell him you like him romantically. You like like him. You are interested in sex with him. Be blunt as a really blunt thing.

>>49676097
>who she apparently wasn't smart enough to make a move on BEFORE he picked up this girl...
He's had a different girlfriend in the past.

>Even if she's beating him bloody every day and draining his bank accounts while addicting him to heroin, it's still wrong.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

>>49676099
Well I would be playing in the session too. It wouldn't be the same.

>If I'm friends with someone I'm interested in, I'd outright let them know instead of trying to ERP with their NPCs as some passive aggressive attempt to get them.
I have borderline ERPed with him before. So like I said, I think he knows.

>>49676176
Borderlined isnt enough, outright tell him instead of being a fucking pansy about it, then you can leave the rest of us alone after you're either rejected or have been indoctrinated by the MC.

>>49676143
Harold Johnson tends to get the credit for helping create the Kender in Dragonlance, while TSR was still around.

Granted, yes, that ~13 year gap does make pinning the blame on Kender a bit of a stretch - but let's face it, Kender are to blame for all the evils of the world. Somehow, those little fuckers are responsible, I just know it.

>>49676163
>>49676190
I'm not good being so forward. That's why I like when I can do it in character.

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>>49676198
Kind of odd, given that Hickman gets the writing credit for DL1. Was Johnson Tas' original player or something?

>>49676209
Seriously, grow a pair of Ovularies and ask the fucker out.

You're wasting everyone's time, especially yours, when hitting on people that do not exist

>>49676209
Well, in this case, you're probably better off not getting what you want.

Just keep it in mind for the next guy you like - men have huge blinders when it comes to noticing girls like them - even Chad.

>>49676241
Having a name like Chad in real life really effects me when people just use it like that.

>>49676209
It's easy, just do what you do with the NPCs to his face and not in third person. Hell fucking message him or some shit if you can't even say it to him

say it to his face fucker and not his npc see what happens

Probably nothing because he clearly doesn't wanna bang you.

>>49676257
Well quit dicking over all the betas then.

Seriously, Chad, wtf?

>>49676236
>>49676241
I'm going to be open about it and tell him I like him and that if he ever wants to he just needs to say so.

He must know already but I'll tel him anyway just to get it out and be sure.

>>49676262
I lold at your spoiler.

>>49676262
In fact I will email him

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>>49676281
I can't help it, it's the power of the name!!

seriously though, it's actually funny to see it being used this way and really brightens up my day. Thanks anons

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>>49672278
I know this feel x1000

Hurts man...

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