Horus Heresy General /hhg/

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Show me your minis, and tell the class about your last game if you'd please.

>>49665353
Forgot the old link https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/49642841#top

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Whats you fave model to come out of the character series so far?
Bonus points if its not a primarch
EXTRA bonus points for being honest and saying your fave IS a primarch

>>49665390
I like the Archmagos, because I used his abeyant as a bike for my conversion beamer forge lord.

>>49665408
kickass
you happen to have photos?

>>49665353
>We're Coming For You Laurie! Edition

You fuckers better not do anything. I like that forum and the people on there, and you better not ruin the only other decent HH community in existence for me.

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>>49665390
call me crazy
but I actually really like Lorgar

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>>49665422
Again, it's a joke. The worst thing I'd do is fill his house with Legos and hope he steps on one. That's all. Have a Noise Marine for your troubles.

>>49665390
Draykavac, if only because it's different that anything else.
A close runner-up is Zardu with his Anakatis Kul.
I have grown a strange liking for Vulkan as well.

>>49665422
The First Expedition?
I have no wish to participate in anything there, half the posters seem to be illiterate, the other half's half seems to be Laurie himself. Seriously, that guy posts there more than I here.

>>49665353
>At least we have a drawfag
There's two of us, one's just a lazy shit.

>>49665353
>At least we have a drawfag, but Laurie still has a girl's name. Pity him.
What's wrong with having a girl's name? It makes trapping easier.

If I stick Curze with an assault squad or night raptor squad can they use him to infiltrate? Not sure if that rule is conveyed to the squad or not

>>49665445

For you, maybe. But there's others on here who might take it seriously. I don't want the forum to be filled with an influx of shitposters who will spread bad /hhg/ memes everywhere and then try and hack Laurie's E-mails in the HH version of Snowden. I like the chance to discuss canon with the man who oversees it, even if arguments often ensue.

>>49665459
>The First Expedition?
>I have no wish to participate in anything there, half the posters seem to be illiterate, the other half's half seems to be Laurie himself. Seriously, that guy posts there more than I here.

You'd be surprised how many people from here post there.

>>49665390
Sevatar

>>49665420
It's just the GW servo-harness techmarine on the abeyant.

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we all seemed to get caught up with the whole alpharius dying thing (and subsequent metal gear alpharius memes) that I can't find anything on this

What did you think of the fight itself? was it any good? how does it compare to other prim arch duels?

>>49665475
>You'd be surprised how many people from here post there.
Not really surprising as this thread goes on daily compared to discussions over there.

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>>49665459
Who's who then? Is the chain-shovel nigga the same nigga who drew Horus for us?
>>49665465
It's probably the reason why he became BL's editor.

Does anybody have the epub from Black Library for the Legion Crusade List? It's fully up to date, and I can't seem to find it.

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>>49665470
>HH version of Snowden
I laughed. Isn't that one of those lesser Assassin temples?

>>49665517

He became BL's HH Editor because he started out as one of us. He ran a HH Fan-Forum, the Great Crusade in the dark era long before even the Sabretooth HH Card Game series when playing Heresy was converting Plastic Mk VII into Mk IV. He took petitions to GW for them to make Pre-Heresy Armour Marks to make it easier. Eventually he got noticed enough to be brought in-house as a fact-checker for the HH Series, and from there was promoted to series editor.

>>49665508
Alpharius and Ferrus got along one time due to being more machine than man, Ferrus acted like it but Alpharius actually was more machine than man, and they both died the same way. Poetry.

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>>49665536
Huh. Well, now I like Laurie a little bit now.

>>49665517
>It's probably the reason why he became BL's editor.
How so?

>>49665552

I've met him. He's the smartest bastard on the subject of the HH you could ever meet. However he's become a lot more antagonistic towards the fans as of recent. I get the feel that toeing the party line at GW has corrupted him, to use the best term I can think of.

Here's the forum he used to run. Most of the armies on here are converted from plastics. It's that old.

http://z15.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Crusade/index.php?

>>49665508
>alpharius dying thing (and subsequent metal gear alpharius memes) that I can't find anything on this
What do you mean?

The lead-up and the fight were good, at least a primarch died for once. Only Archamus jumping in is slippy at best.
Fulgrim vs. Ferrus is so far the best one, it's like from Greek tragedy/animu.

>>49665521
There's a pdf version, epub is of Militia&Cults list.

>>49665536
Didn't know that, it's a cool story I guess. I have to give it to him, his job as the HH head must be stressful with all the plotlines going on, and then he has to handle Kyme and Thorpe. Thorpe's also a pretty cool guy when it comes to lorefagging, he's been involved with one of the best projects out there (Inquisitor) and he did an amazing job with the overall story for the Dark Angels even if the execution is kind of lacking.

>>49665600
The PDF is out of date.

Quick, make a character for a legion that is either Sworn Brothers or By the Emperor's/Warmaster's Command with your legion!

Either write up some fluff for them, stats, or both!

>>49665600
meant we were all talking about the death, and couldn't find any conversation on the fight itself, so figured I'd start one

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>>49665581
I don't know. Maybe being bullied for having a girl's name made him want to be an editor. Point is, I really shouldn't be on the Internet without two cups of coffee. Let's try talking about something else. Jetbikes.

Now if you were a Primarch of the smart(really all of them minus Angron and Curze who were too unstable to care), a pessimistic sort(Mort), or the type who loves going fast variety wouldn't you think "this war is going to cost too much. Better put the fancy jetbikes in storage". Did the demands of fighting in the Heresy, the Scouring, or the wars after the Heresy plus the lack of knowledge take away the jetbikes?
>>49665588
Tell me one thing. Why does he hate Whineseer besides the obvious reason?

>>49665639
Indeed it is. I'm trying to find a link, but no success so far. You know it's named Age of Darkness Army List now, right?

>>49665536
Man, what happened to him? Or was he always such an asshole about "fuck your old and busted lore, this is the new hotness now"? Maybe it's just the fate of all who are fans and get involved with the thing they like. Tropes and memes become the new lore.

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>>49665690
right
> loyalist lone word bearer, uses daemonic voodoo powers to help out the loyalists who need it most
> disappears into the warp before anyone can find him
> appears fucking everywhere at once
> gets his powers from malal

literally just off the top of my head

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>>49665807
Pic related 100%.

So, Why legion malcador's point higher than auxilia or militia? for balance?

>>49665771

He loved the old lore. Was worried that BL would simply walk right over the top of most of it, which helped convince him to accept the offer to work there.

Again, he was never this much of an apologist for GW in the past. I find myself rolling my eyes much of the time when reading his posts these days.

>>49665710

Never asked.

>>49665521
I have the up-to-date dark age list epub, and got it from here I'm sure. How do I upload it to the Mega?

>>49665588
>He's the smartest bastard on the subject of the HH you could ever meet
>makes retarded as fuck statements on first expedition and constantly needs to be corrected on books he edited
Nah

>>49665710
It was the obvious reason. But he knew exactly WHY they were wrong because he had the official answers. Usually he wasn't allowed to give those answers, but when he was, the response he always got was, "Gav said everything is canon six years ago! Old lore supersedes new lore! You're not Alan Merrett so it can't be official!" And when knowing this stuff and keeping it all in line is your job, that kind of response really sucks.

>>49665945
Feels weird. If he doesn't like the new stuff, I can't imagine him pushing it that hard. Feels almost like he has a chip on his shoulder towards the fandom when I read some of his posts.

>>49666145
Such as?

>>49666157

I have to agree. Maybe it's what happens when you're elevated from the fandom, you start to look down on what you once were.

I like the guy, but I feel these days his shilling for BL is just grating. That's why I post only rarely on TFE.

>>49666186
He thought Corswain was still with the Lion when there's a short story about him hunting Typhon with one half of the DA, IN AN ANTHOLOGY HE EDITED

>>49666225
Meh. It's the Dark Angels. No one gives a fuck.

>>49666236
>it's okay when Laurie does it

Never thought I would see editor fanboyism here

>>49666264
Nah, if there was any one legion that I really couldn't care less about, it's the Dark Angels. Every single story written about them has been garbage imho.

>>49666297
>I don't give a shit about this legion
>therefore this justifies the editor being a retard

Not how it works.

Who's to say he hasn't made a mistake about your favourite legions, and I just haven't noticed?

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I want to base my army on the Lyssatra, or the Brethren of Thunder Iron Warriors alongside (Dark) Mechanicum allies.
What kind of units should I take? I'm in doubt between Ordo Reductor and Auxilia Myrmidax.
Also what "school" is Ironfire based on? I think it's on Stor-Bezask rather than Lyssatra (since some time ago there was talk on whether Idriss Krendl was a member or not).
Also fun fact: The root of the word "Lyssatra" is "Lyssa", the Greek goddess of rage, madness and rabies in animals or humans.

>>49666318
Well then you should take better notice. Especially if that's the only example you're going with.

>>49666343
It's not forgetting some two bit character is dead, it's misplacing the Lion's second in command and half their fucking fleet.

Not to mention he would be the guy that signed off on
>angels of caliban's curza
>pharos tyranid spaghettios
>weregeld's shitty ending
>alpharius' death

And he seems sub par

>>49666398
>angels of caliban's curza
Don't care.
>pharos tyranid spaghettios
Was not his decision, nor was it Haley's. It was a mandate that came down from Merrett.
>weregeld's shitty ending
Haven't read it.
>alpharius' death
Good.

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>>49665353
>At least we have a drawfag
>>49665517
>Is the chain-shovel nigga the same nigga who drew Horus for us?
Nah. I just found the lack of chainshovels an unforgiveable sin.

>>49666429
>don't care
But night lords fans care. "it doesn't affect me it so it doesn't matter" isn't an argument
>came down from Merrett
Proof?
>haven't read it
When you read it you'll see
>good
Killing Alpharius and fucking up a literal decade of planning for an AL civil war just to make your favourite Primarch loom good is the epitome of hack

>>49666460
>Killing Alpharius and fucking up a literal decade of planning for an AL civil war just to make your favourite Primarch loom good is the epitome of hack
just as keikaku

>>49666429
Just because you dont care doesnt mean that its not a fairly unnacceptable oversight, especially when he acts like a snooty cunt instead of admitting his failure

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>>49665390
Zardu Layak is the only WB I'd pray with. He's a Word Bearer that has a lot of faith.
>>49666071
T H I S
>>49666327
>I'm in doubt between Ordo Reductor and Auxilia Myrmidax.
Can't you take both? Reductor (Arch)Magos, Myrmidon Secutor elites, Ordo Reductor Siege engines and Thallax troops. And there's still a FA choice you can fill with Ursarax, Vorax or an Arvus lighter to deepstrike in, in case you don't put the Secutors in a Triaros
>Thunder (Iron) Warriors.
:^)

>>49666460
>is the epitome of hack
the entire alpha legion plot has been shit, so it's only fitting the ending is also terrible

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>>49666433
Well, I'll be. Didn't think you were the drawfag.

>>49666460
Just stop replying, his whole argument is basically muh opinion.

>>49666460
>"it doesn't affect me it so it doesn't matter" isn't an argument
It is when the whole point of this argument has been to try and sway me that Goulding is a bad man.
>Proof?
"The tyranids (let's not be coy, here) saw the Pharos asplode. They noticed our galaxy for that reason alone, and changed their course (This was suggested as the epilogue for Imperium Secundus by Alan Merrett in 2012)."
And source: http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_First_Expedition/index.php?showtopic=1888&st=0&#entry22142105
>Killing Alpharius and fucking up a literal decade of planning for an AL civil war just to make your favourite Primarch loom good is the epitome of hack
You're assuming a lot of intent on John French's part as well as the belief that an AL civil war was ever the intended outcome, which not even Abnett had ever said anything about.

>>49666433
>S+1
>ap5
OR
>S+2
>AP4
>unwieldy
>if a unit equipped entirely with shovels either does not move or does not run/shoot, it can improve the cover save granted by a terrain piece by 1 to a maximum of 3+
>may replace a CCW for 2 PPM
>free in an infantry-centric RoW where you must take three units of 20-man tacticals and artillery tanks lose the 0-1 rule

>>49666546
The argument is that he's a shitty editor who lets flanderized characters be published. You replying
>lol got mine
is not a counterargument

>You're assuming a lot of intent on John French'

Yes I suppose it's a coincidence both times he's written the Imperial Fists their enemies are drooling retards.

Not to mention in the same afterword he mentions he has wanted to have Dorn kill someone Important for a long time

>as the belief that an AL civil war was ever the intended outcome
Deliverance Lost, Serpent Beneath, Seventh Serpent. All of them by different authors, all of them have to do with the twins plotting against each other. Tell me how a civil war wasn't the conclusion?

>>49666493
>Can't you take both?
I can, and will in some future, but for a start I'll focus on one of these only. Myrmidax seem more fitting as they are (later) Obliterator Cult-like, and they serve as weaponmasters and destroyers rather than besiegers (not that one excludes the other), which is Lyssatra's thing too.
>>Thunder (Iron) Warriors.
Indeed.

Will 30k see Skitarii/Secutarii included, mainly Forge World's own take on them?

I just realized that this is the third mass Satan convention /hhg/ has had.

>>49666602
I really have trouble differentiating Myrmidon Auxilia from regular Ordo Reductor.
The former are Dakkamancers and the latter focus on macro scale destruction and drown the enemy in shell, armoured vehicles and Storm Troops, and they mostly stayed loyal.
Hmmm...many parallels with the IVth.
I put too put the Centuria Ordinatus with them, but those are more like the Collegia Titanica, caretakers of an avatar of the Machine God, but one that forsakes some of its aspects and focuses all of its might into being a Titan-massed gun of fuck-all.

Dammit I wish they weren't spread so thinly...but I'm working on that.

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>>49666690
The GigaSatan has already spawned! Where is he?

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>>49666701

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>>49666701
>>49666888
As you can see, the two are different branches of Mechanicum. But, since I'll be doing Dark Mechanicum, the organisation shouldn't hinder me as they had similar beliefs and were both infamous anyway.

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>>49666888
>>49666926
You can post the complete thing familiorum. What I posted on that comment I drew from this as well from the one found in the Cult Mechanicus/Skitarii Codex. I was merely stating their beliefs and ways of acting weren't the same, but did aim for the same thing.

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Why does Warhammer need 30 (THIRTY) threads up at one time? I counted the catalogue.

Is there really ZERO overlap between all these threads FFS?

>>49665469
>Indipendent Characters with the Infiltrate special rule may not join units without it and vica versa

7th edition FAQ on GW site (no, not the draft)

>>49667084
>A million Imperial worlds
>Trillions of humans
>Complains about 30 threads
>0.phoneposting.016M3
Kek.

>>49666701
I was under the impression Auxilia Myrmidon just attach themselves to larger groups as it suits them.

This Laurie Goulding seems nowhere near autistic enough to be managing the HH lore.

>>49667331
I dunno, entering into slap fights with fans online is pretty autistic.

>>49667331
Or maybe the lore isn't as autistic as everyone seems to think it is.

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>>49667084
Because we're talking about Warhammer and specific aspects of Warhammer.

Don't like it? Make a thread about sometjing else.

>>49667342
It's pretty fucking autistic if you treat it too seriously and don't get that it has strong roots in satire and rule of cool.

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>>49667285
They do, because they're a Cult, not something as big as the Cybernetica or even the smaller Reductor...who are also nomads, but mostly keep to themselves and honour pacts of loyalty and resupply with some Forgeworlds. I'm assuming Myrmidons are more like mercenaries, only they're attracted to conflicts, led by their Myrmayors, where they can put their dakka to good use...like Flash-Gitz, but killier. They even have the same sense if humour.
It involves you exploding.
Did you know Myrmeco is greek for Ant? After a plague a kingdom was left without people, so the king asked the gods to grant him subjects. From a log full of ants, they created the Myrmidons. Achilles' Myrmidons were ruthless soldiers famed to carry his orders to the letter.

>Requesting a Are_y'all_with_the_Cult.png edit of Myrmidons, plz.

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>>49667537
>that mark on arm
Anyone saw anything similar anywhere else?

>>49667644
Yup. I wrote Illuminatus when I said it looked like the Star Marines had a Steel bib. The DA terminator has a Star of David, the "Hexagramaton".

>>49667672
>Illuminatus
Which means?

>>49667707
No, I mean I marked it in red on a picture of the Star chested in HH6, srry. I merely saw the triangle as well and said "Illuminati".

>>49667672
The hexagramaton isn't a Star of David. It's closer to the Mason's symbol.

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>>49667644
Looks like the Schwarze Sonne.

>>49667766
I see. I thought it was the black sun symbol until I zoomed in.

>>49667810
Yeah, it does in the pic. I guess I won't be sure until I see it in the book.

>>49667792
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicursal_hexagram

>>49667636
>>49667285

But doesn't >>49666993 list the Myrmidons as maintaining allegiance to a specific forge world, whereas the Ordo Reductor's oaths are directly to Mars?

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So, this is a thing.

>>49667876
Okay, cool. The unicursal hexagram. Never heard the term before. Not a Star of David though.

Polishing my 2500pts list while the wash is drying on my 2nd batch of furies. I'll be using the last iteration of this list for my next FW buy. How bad/too powerful is it? I don't want my opponents to have a bad time, but I may have to play against some 40k lists.

- Alvarex Maun, Cameleoline, MotL : Recon Company[145]

- Recon Squad, MBs [125]
- Recon Squad, MBs [125]
- Recon Squad, MBs [125]
- Tac Support Squad, 4 more Marines, Plasma Guns, Serg w/ Combi Plasma, Rhino w/ Dozer Blade [320]

- Apothecarion Detachment, 1 more Apo, 1 Jumppack [105]
- Quad Launcher Battery, 2 more, Shatter Shells [210]
- Mor Deythan Squad, 2 more, 5 Combi Flamers, 2 Plasma Guns, Serg w/ MB, Rhino w/ Dozer Blade [285]

- Dark Fury Squad, 5 more, Serg w/ MB [330]
- Seeker Squad, Serg w/ MB & AA [270]
- Lightning Strike Fighter, 4 Kraken Missiles, Strafing Run, Tank Hunter [230]

- Fire Raptor Gunship, 4 Hellstrike Missiles, Autocannons [230]

2500/2500

>>49666071
>>49666493
uploaded the Dark Age epub to Mega, someone move this to the big repository.
It's a 99.2MB file by the way.

https://mega.nz/#!DhIVFLBZ!8GiXQ0hnqVBQ34cf1wrEJB6g0mUr258m0KGYp5uZclM

>>49665508
>alpharius dying AGAIN
I swear it's going to be a thing in BL. All the Primarchs will be talking, bragging and be like "Wait, who here HASN'T killed Alpharius?"

>>49667917
Sick.

>>49667930
>>49667876
I like how we can always learn something on /tg/
>>49667901
Things must have changed after the reorganization that happened after the Heresy.

>>49668485
I wasn't sure whether they were being discussed under the Mechanicum or the Adeptus Mechanicus. The former gives a lot more leeway to individual forge worlds.

>>49667995
Why are you giving the sarge a combi plasma?

Over-all it's a good list. Its not stupid powerful, but its not a pushover either.

I would Invest in a Vigilator with a pack to give the Furies scout and thus stealth(from vigilators stock camo) and shrouded by scouting. Drop a fury and a plasmagun or two

>>49668485
>I like how we can always learn something on /tg/
I tend to like stuff that synthesises a lot of crap, has plenty of details to awaken curiosity.

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What is each legion's specialty?

dark angels - ??
emperor's children - ??
iron warriors - siege weapons
white scars - bikes
space wolves - internal affairs
imperial fists - fortifications
night lords - scare tactics
blood angels - ??
iron hands - cybernetics
world eaters - melee
ultramarines - strategy
death guard - infantry
thousand sons - psykers
sons of horus - tactics?
word bearers - reading and shit
salamanders - fire
raven guard - stealth/infiltration
alpha legion - stealth/infiltration

>>49669037
>emperor's children
Being fags
>dark Angels
Being closet fags

>>49669037
>Dangles
Old goodies no one uses anymore and or never returned.
>Emperor's Children
Dueling I think.
>Blood Angels
Melee.

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>>49667644
Alpharius' backpack gained sentience, and the last task given to him was to be right behind all the traitors, THE DEVIL IS NOT MOCKED

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>>49669037
Raven Guard - Rapid Assault, Recon, Sabotage, Stealth, exploiting weakness, adaptability, 'Hearts and Minds'
Terran XIX/Pale Nomads - Same as above(minus 'hearts and minds'), but with more murder and countervalue targeting

>>49669037
All the legions with fluff released have their speciality listed in the HH books.

>dark angels - Combined arms warfare, think all the wings working together.
>emperor's children - Combined arms warfare involving complex manoeuvres and assault
>iron warriors - siege weapons
>white scars - bikes
>space wolves - internal affairs
>imperial fists - fortifications
>night lords - scare tactics
>blood angels - shock and awe aerial assaults
>iron hands - cybernetics
>world eaters - melee
>ultramarines - strategy
>death guard - infantry
>thousand sons - psykers
>sons of horus - shock assault and startegic decapitation strikes
>word bearers - reading and shit
>salamanders - fire
>raven guard - stealth/infiltration
>alpha legion - stealth/infiltration

>>49669037
>alpha legion - stealth/infiltration

Information warfare, Alpha legion is all about feeding you wrong info and then using the astartes elements to surprise you as they tear you apart from 3 different fronts with cultists and traitors from your own forces and after you realize who the real enemy is its far too late.

>>49669037
dark angels - homosex
emperor's children - homosex
iron warriors - autism
white scars - horsecock
space wolves - yiff
imperial fists - bad color scheme
night lords - dumb hats
blood angels - homosex
iron hands - autism
world eaters - dumb hats
ultramarines - homosex
death guard - autism
thousand sons - dumb hats
sons of horus - topknots
word bearers - autism
salamanders - being huge weenies
raven guard - autism
alpha legion - autism

>>49669320
Please fuck off to Laurie's board already.

>>49667995
I'd have to add 500 points to my BA list, but I'd gladly go up against you.

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>>49669122
It never ends!

>>49669037
Alpha Legion is more adaptable tactics and enemy manipulation than Stealth / Infiltration, Infiltrate is only 1 of their options.

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>>49669037
>>49669188
>IW = Artillery and nothing else.
Reeeeeeeeee. Supposedly they were also fierce CC combatants. And if genestealer cults were a thing, they'd call them too, as those things don't know fear.

>>49669547

IW= Mass warfare covers it much better...

>>49668582
The idea with the combi is to "cheapen" a little the squad, he doesn't have a flamer so he doesn't have to upgrade to a plasma gun and the combi is free. He will be in front and dying first. I should give him AA.
I was initially planning with the Vigilator, but the current consensus in the RG tactica thread of B&C is that Jump Infantry are both Infantry and Jump Pack Infantry (40k Rule Book p65), so they get Infiltrate via LA: Raven Guard. I don't know how valid this is, but after rereading it a few times, I wonder how I overlooked it. I loose Stealth and Scout, But I feel like Shrouded is still pretty good. In case this doesn't work I will definitely take a Vigilator with a power axe probably.

>>49669362
Great!

>>49669547
They're not fierce combatants but fearless combatants, charging into enemies whilst the creeping barrage surrounds them

>>49669649
Thats old rules. The sarge gets a special weapon now and thus a plasmagun. He can then get a combi for free(not that you woudl want a combi of the special weapons)

So whats the point of Abaddon's Justaerin Warplate? It's just Cataphractii armour that doesn't have the no run rule, but since he's always with the Justaerin, he can never use this rule. Why even bother giving him unique armour when the effect is pretty small/lame and can be achieved with Tartaros armour with an iron halo?

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>>49669652
Boooooo. Lexicanum stop lying.

>>49669755
Its thematic, Justaerin use Cataphractii and it makes a point that Abby is such a big lad he isnt encumbered by his armor.

>>49669689
It does say "the sergeant may alternatively take ..." right after the option for the whole squad to upgrade weapons. I though the alternatively means he didn't have to upgrade with the rest of the squad. Too bad if he can't.

>>49669774
You do realize that close range does not have to be the same as hand to hand combat, right? Running up to someone to shoot them in the face while headless of losses is easily described as "fierce."

>>49668204
Primarch among men, cheers anon!

>>49670102
happy to help

>>49669977
"... instead of their flamer."

I see what you mean now though, take the combiplas over the flamer then upgrade the rest to plasmaguns and save 15 points. Put 10 of them towards AA so he can tank after the initial volley. There's no rules in operation order so I suppose it works.

2000 points Imperial Fists, trying a different more mobile list. Not an AV14 heavy meta. Not much in the way of special weapons on the board, but Thudd guns and Heavy Bolters with Imp fist +1 will shred Infantry nicely.

Genuinely don't know what to do with the Centurion.

HQ (100)

Legion Centurion, Delegatus, Artificer armour, Power Weapon, Refractor Field
ROW – Pride of the Legion

Troops (810) (All with Marksmen Legiones Astartes rule)

Legion Veteran Tactical Squad,Vexilla (270)
9x Marines
2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web
1x Sarge with Power Fist
Rhino

Legion Veteran Tactical Squad,Vexilla (270)
9x Marines
2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web
1x Sarge with Power Fist
Rhino

Legion Veteran Tactical Squad,Vexilla (270)
9x Marines
2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web
1x Sarge with Power Fist
Rhino

Elites (360)

Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnough (180)
2x Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon

Legion Quad Launcher Support Battery (180)
3x Quad Launchers

Heavy Support (730)

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (225)
Armoured Ceramite, Lascannons

Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (225)
Armoured Ceramite, Lascannons

Vindicator Squadron (280)
2x Vindicator, Armoured Ceramite

>>49670240
This list looks suspiciously like Everything /hhg/ Says Is Good thrown together, I'm surprised you haven't taken a Typhon.

>>49670039
Why even respond to tripfags?

>>49670240
>Legion Quad Launcher Support Battery (180)
>3x Quad Launchers

No shattter shells?

>>49670039
Oh, well there's my fault. Read the comparison to WE and BA and immediately defaulted to melee.

>>49670414
Why even respond?

>>49670509
Why even?

>>49669037
Dark Angels - combined arms warfare, also bathrobes.
Emperor's Children - coördinated assault, also (you really don't want to know)
Iron Warriors - calculated application of resources, also shovels
White Scars - Hit and Run, also being mongolian
Space Wolves - close range warfare (shooty and choppy) also furries
Imperial Fists - defensive warfare and fire discipline, also muh walls
Night Lords - jumpscare horror tactics, also batwings
Blood Angels - overwhelming infantery assault, also vampires
Iron Hands - unrelenting firepower, also prone to losing their head
World Eaters - brawling, also RAAAAAAGE
Ultramarines - logistics ad strategy, also polishing. Everything.
Death Guard - infantery wave assault (think WW1) also not washing
Thousand Sons - Psychic supremacy, also vacuumcleaner-phobia
Sons of Horus - shock assault to annihilte enemy's strongest assets, also horus fuccbois
Word Bearers - Having Faith
Salamanders - close range cleanse and burn, also being black
Raven Guard - guerillia tactics, also emo
Alpha Legion - intel and information warfare, also Just As Planned

>>49670517
Why?

>>49670530
?

>>49670530
?

>>49670420
Honestly not enough points. Could drop power fists, or some ac?

Fairly tight on points

>>49670404
Not deliberate, this list is basically a week's worth of work and some advice from C+B

Does it look alright?

>>49670414
Because alacran is one of us

Come on out Uni, we all saw you.

>>49671071
I have two shorter battle reports, but its was my NidsImeanMegaarachnidscoughcough, vs Word Bearers, and nothing hilarious happened.

I can buy Calth at the weekend, how much longer will they be on sale for

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What's HHG's opinion on the official look for Amit and Azkaellon?

>>49671308
azkaellon's face looks like a mildly inconvenienced old lesbian, amit doesnt look angry enough to be Flesh Tearer prime

>>49671308
guy on left's hairline is too real for me to suspend my disbelief. I want off this wild early male pattern baldness ride.

>>49671308
Apart from shield knee pads it doesn't look artificer at all

>>49671349
Amit kinda looks like a chubby Jason Statham

>>49671400
Or Jeremy Clarkson

Could Alpha Legion be considered as having an underlying "tribal" vibe?
Between blood-drinking rituals, tattoos in their faces, "headhunters", and animalistic features on the armour style, I'd like to focus on these things rather than spec-ops super soldier.

>>49669649
This is the 2k list I'd have to add on to, but I think it'd be a really fun match.

Blood Angels, Day of Revelations – 2000 Points

HQ: Legion Praetor, Blade of Perdition, Iron Halo, Jump Pack – 165 Points
Command Squad, 5X Chosen, 5X Power Swords, 5X Jump Packs – 230 Points

Elites: Apothecary, Power Sword, Jump Pack, Artificer Armour – 80 Points

Troops: 10X Assault Marines, 3X Power Swords, Artificer Armour, Melta Bomb – 220 Points
10X Assault Marines, 3X Power Swords, Melta Bomb – 210 Points
5X Legion Support Marines, 5X Meltas, Melta Bomb, Drop Pod – 215 Points
5X Legion Support Marines, 5X Volkite Calivers – 125 Points

Fast Attack: Dreadclaw Drop Pod – 115 Points
Dreadclaw Drop Pod – 115 Points
Dreadclaw Drop Pod – 115 Points

Heavy Support: Legion Sicaran, Lascannons – 205 Points
Legion Sicaran, Lascannons – 205 Points

>>49671537
Can't take artificer and jump pack on apothecary, regular drop pod for support squad. What are your dreadclaws even for?

>>49671516
Sure. It's really not too difficult to apply all sorts of different sub-cultures to particular contingents, companies, or expedition fleets within a legion. Just because a single element within a legion has a unique culture, doesn't mean it's "unfluffy." The legions were huge and there was tons of non-standard practices and unit-specific heraldry and specialties.

Abandon gets EW and a paragon blade instead of his power sword. How much does he now cost?

>>49671308
We already have his official look. I'm disappointed they didn't put him in his Termie armor.

>>49671308
My gf thinks Amit is hotter.

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>>49671308
>>49671349
>>49671372
>>49671397
>>49671400
>>49671713
>>49671679
The real Amit.

>>49671625
Didn't know about the Artificer Armour, but that frees up 10 points. I can easily make the drop pod a separate troop choice. Dreadclaws are for the assault marines and the command squad.

>>49671713
But that Azkaellon looks more intimidating strangely. Maybe sanguinary guard will cause fear?

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>>49671679
>>49671739
Surely he has access to several armours. Doesn't Fear to Tread has the other captains jest on his face about his armour being dirty, only for him to talk back saying he isn't obsessed with being pretty all the time?
I think in the end they all agree they're prettier than the EC.

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>>49671713
Your gf isn't attracted to old lesbians, congrats!

>>49671755
Never mind, I'm a retard. No suicide meltas for me then.

>>49671537
Does Day of Revelation even open regular drop pod for your support squad?

>>49671755
Your assault marines already have jump pack, they are now bulky and don't fit in the dreadclaws.

>>49671843
Guess it's time to scrap the list then.

>>49665536
>>49665588
kill yourself laurie you stupid cuck

BL will never be canon

Anyone know where to get eye of terra for download?

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>>49665353
How far down the rabbit hole did the Dark Mechanicus go during the Heresy?

Were they just Mechanicus with black paint or did they go absolutely ape shit with warp magic?

>>49671679
>indomitus tda special character
>in 30k
Bligh has only so much patience.

>>49672036
If the Mechanicum book is anything to go by then they went balls deep into warp infused tech.

>>49671877
Sorry you don't still have Ward around to suck his dick.

>>49672036
As it went on completely balls to the wall, but then again so did the loyalists (using an AI to retake Mars for example)

>>49672036
The Dark Mechanicus pretty much went all in into everything that man and the Emperor forbid.

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>>49672039
>>indomitus tda special character
Well, it existed. Could 30k Indomitus have any kind of buff? I was thinking Deepstrike, but that means IF and NL would never take them. Unless it was at a discount.
>TDA
Heh.

>>49672036
By the time of the Siege they had Titans with daemons inside of them, and our boy Scoria had a head start over every cogboy. He's probably the head of the Dark Mechanicus in 40k.
>>49672039
Just say it's a prototype of Indomitus. All will be fine.
>>49671810
>Golfbane

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>>49672103
how is ward relevant to anything?

you are a retarded cuckold who defends poorly written BL trash and shit on fluff thats older than you are, the fluff that built the setting.

then you have autistic temper tantrums online and wonder why everything thinks you are a stupid faggot.

Why didn't the word bearers have a honour guard?

I mean, considering Lorgar was the weakest primarch you'd think they'd have a larger one, but nope, none at all

>>49671822
Amit is in red, that is Azkaellon

>>49672185
One has no need for an honour guard when one has Faith.

When in doubt, Faith harder

>>49669037
Iron Hands is mechanized warfare and fighting technologically advanced human societies.

>>49672185
Because Lorgar isnt a warrior, he probably just stayed behind and lead every war from a bunker or from space. Even in Istvaan he wasnt fighting and he barely fought in Ultramar.

>>49672185
Probably he used a regular Command squad? Fitting that the weakest primarch had a normie CS.
>>49672171
He's not a terrorist faggot. Those comments are simply those of a frustrated man.
>>49672196
He said she was not attracted to Azkaellon, not Amit.

>>49672240
But that's exactly why he needs a bodyguard.

What if a particularly huge nob breaks through the word bearer lines and heads for Lorgar?

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>>49672255
>man
nu-males arent 'men'

Just finished with my first Chinese recast, and the quality was almost as good as the real thing except Sigismund's flimsy sword is gonna snap someday soon. That shit is thin. Can somebody please convince me why I should buy from Forgeworld instead before I put in an order for 30 iron hands mk3 marines.

>>49672306
Because we want this to keep going so supporting might be a good idea? Buy something from FW every now and then.

>>49672131
Not saying your lying, but you got a source on that AI thing? That sounds badass as fuark

>>49672306
>Can somebody please convince me why I should buy from Forgeworld instead
you shouldnt, those morons overprice their products and shouldnt get business until they fix their prices

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>>49672344
I did

>>49672139
>>49672141
Not that it didn't exist, but obviously melee character in a melee legion unable to sweep would cause a massive rage.

>>49672280
>What are retcons?

>>49672348
Myriad by Rob Sanders

>>49672306
Ordering from either of them is a gamble when it comes to the casting quality in my experience ; I've had and seen some horrifying miscasts from FW and Chinaman, but also some neat ones. With FW you (should) have a better guarantee of them sending replacements for free when you recieve a mess.

The Character series models from FW have always been nerdgasm-level of quality however, so I'd personally always get those from FW directly

>>49672386
Nice, I'll give it a read

>>49672240
>fought Corax on Isstvan V
He wanted to see how far will the gods go to protect him.
>got hammered by a titan plasma gun on Armatura
Went down to help Angron gtfo.
Also accompanied Angron on Nuceria.

>>49672377
BL trash isnt a 'retcon'

>>49672390
FW is overpriced but the customer service is topnotch.

>>49672418
>>49672386
Got a download link?

>>49672306
If you're outside the UK the GBP dropped again this week, so if you're in the US or Canada in particular everything just got that much cheaper. At some point if the trend keeps going FW is going to have to raise prices, though.

>>49672425
Actually it's more than that
>btfo by corax on isstvan
>plasma gun to the face twice on armatura
>got sternum cracked by guilliman
>hand exploded by vorias
>beaten up by Lhorke
All in all shit primarch

>>49672426
Never said retcons weren't trash, Lynn Egolsen.

>>49670240
It looks good, but one day someone will bring a Spartan and you'll have no answer for it.

Not sure I'd bother with the power fists on the sergeants. If you get into close combat you've already screwed up.

>>49672457
So far Brexit turned out amazing for us resin junkies ordering from outside of the UK. Might it actually have been a conspiracy by foreign wargamers who wanted their resin fix for cheap ?

>>49672474
>no I was planning on losing that so it means I actually won

The £ is currently $1.26 according to Google.

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN FW WAS CHEAPER THAN GW?

>>49672457
>At some point if the trend keeps going FW is going to have to raise prices, though.
kek, because thatll help sales.

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>>49672306
Because I can't wait for my Primarch to arrive.

>>49672556
>I must apologize for Lorgar. He is an idiot, we have purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.
>Ha! Face to foot-style, how you like it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY

Hm should I get two Gorgon transports and some transfers or an Ordinatus Sagittar?

>>49672831

Do you play Imperial Army or Mechanicum?

>>49672834
Yes.

>>49672834
I definitely have way more Mechanicum than I do Militia, but it would be nice having an Ordinatus in 2500 point games.

>>49672889
Oops meant 3k point games

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nobody here considered that the reason Lorgar doesn't bother with a body guard is because he has seen the future and knows he does not die?

>>49672986
He hasn't seen the future. He even tells Erebus that chaos visions are merely what COULD happen, not what WILL happen

>>49672986
What if Alpharius did all he did...because he knew he did die?
>>49673050
>If you fight Corax one v one, you'll most definitely die, guaranteed.
>You can kill Guilliman, but then you'll lose the war
Sounds very explicit.

>>49672986
I think its more because every marine is so zealous of their primarch that they are all Lorgar's bodyguard.

>>49665581
>Laurie? oh yes hire that one, we need more diversity at GW!

>>49665353
guys, I just finished building 4k of iron warriors and want to start fists. whats the best things to take for them?

reading the rows and legionnes astartes it doesn't seem as obvious as iron warriors where I just loaded up on quad rapiers/medusas/beep boops/havocs/tyrants/perty.

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>>49672986
>old Cataphractii gorget
This is pleasing.
>>49673183
Siggy and Templar Brethren just off the top of my head.

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This was one of the preview images for Inferno from the cannabistown weekender. Whatever might that be in the top left?

>>49672889

>Ordinatus
>In a non-apoc game

Hey Hitler.

>>49673183
>I just finished building 4k of iron warriors
Post your list mang. Has it won you many games?
>>49673240
I see the yiffs like them knots ;^)

>>49673183
Sigismund, Templar brethren and stormshield tartaros are all very good. 20 man tactical squads doing a Fury of the Legion on something within 12 inch is also great fun, 80 bolter shots with BS 5 is actually kinda nasty

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>>49673245

>>49673240
Well its a Lord of Change

>>49673303
>Templar brethren
>very good
topkek

Was there ever an updated scan of the crusade list version 2.0?

>>49673303
>Stormshield Tartaros
>Legal
Anon, I'm sorry.

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So what were the requirements to be a Delegatus? Be a reasonable guy in the legion, get told by your papa or a brother in the higher echelons of be legion to go see what some of your bros doing at planet Random Irish name 6778?

>>49672036
Consider that Xana II is now in the Eye of Terror.

>>49673364
Didn't that happen AFTER the Heresy?

>>49673327
They absolutely murder everything wearing powerarmour in a single round of combat. Maybe not amazing against terminators, but that's why you take stormshield terminators

>>49673348
What, has that been disallowed via facebook or twitter or something ? It is hard to keep up with tose informal rules fixes, FW should really update their errata again.

>>49673348
What?

>>49673377
Yes. Scoria drives stick.

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>>49673385
>>49673388
It doesn't mention Tartaros being able to buy Stormshields.

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>>49673425
>Scoria drives stick.
Yes, he drives a stick into their enemies. "Vodian Scepter" he calls it.

>>49673358
Strategic genious? Maybe it is a temporary step before becoming a full Praetor. Maybe that's what Pollux (who?) was before succeding Yonnad

>>49673429
Not that guy but aren't Tartaros pattern considered just Terminator Armour in the books?
I'm pretty sure Terminators just get the option to buy Cataphracii

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>>49673448
Besides that. Imagine where the head cogboy sits at Xana 2, and his throne has a steering wheel and a stick drive.
And to this day, it warms my heart that his little scarab glows too.

>>49673508

I vaguely remember someone asking FW and they said no Tartaros-Shield-Bros

>>49673538
File under things that no one will heed

>>49673429
2+/3++ SS/TH Tartaros are go. THey are jsut a subset of terminator armor.

>>49673538
I can't recall but all I know is the wording in the FAQ says a unit with access to terminator armour that doesn't denote a mark e.g. Terminators is whatever mark is on the model
So unless, as you said, FW say no I don't see why not

>>49673448
Will we ever see an official mini of this guy?

>>49673538
>>49673612
>>49673625
Holy shit, did you guys even read the book? "Recall". Who needs to remember anything when you have the books? The only reason I havent posted the excerpt is because my internet has a case of the Ruinstorm. Yes, that's why I'm Mad.
Because I utterly, poistively hate phoneposting.

>>49673508
There's TDA, Cataphractii TDA, and Tartaros TDA.

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>>49673508
>>49673612
>>49673625
Ño
>Tartarus patter: yadda yadda...In addition to the effects and rules listed previously for Terminator armour, models in Tartarus armour may make Sweep Advances
Since the rule about Stormshields mentions Standard and Cataphractii, one would expect it to also mention Tartaros armour.
>>49673661
>TDA
Alway heh.

>>49673661
Which are all a subset of "Terminator Armour".

>>49673612
>THey are jsut a subset of terminator armor.
So it Cataphractii, who pay a different cost.

It doesn't spell out that Tartaros gets TH/SS, and so they don't get it.

>>49672367
and then never took advantage of their amazing customer service (one of the most well known attributed of the company) to get your messed up parts fixed.

>>49673681
tell that to the imperial fist tactica on BnC

>>49673681
this.

if tartaros could get it it wouldve been specified

>>49673667
You really are as dense as Cataphractii plate, aren't you? The wording on the rule is "standard Terminator armour" or "Cataphractii Terminator armour." Neither of which is Tartaros (a type of TDA that comes with its own set of rules).

>>49673700
So what if some dumbasses say you can? They're obviously idiots incapable of reading.

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>>49673303
>>49673348
>>49673385
>>49673429
>>49673508
>>49673538
>>49673612
>>49673657
>>49673665
YFW its the chainaxes all over again

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>>49673709
Don't know if that's readable but, Standard Terminator armour is what mark it is on the model

>>49673769
So, Standard Terminator armour buys it cheaper than Standard Terminator armour?

>>49673754
Someone email FW about it so we can see what they say.

>>49673803
>Stormshields are free to anyone with access to Terminator armour :^)

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>>49673709
>Dense as cataphractii plate

>>49673633
Yeah they're working on it. He has a scorpion-like abeyant.

>>49673833
Nice. Also, check'd.

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>>49673833
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
>>49673532
>Besides that. Imagine where the head cogboy sits at Xana 2, and his throne has a steering wheel and a stick drive.
An Abeyant is a name given to a general class of hovering conveyances into which the rider's augmentics and life support systems are directly connected though bionic linkage. No two Abeyants are alike, but the one thing they share is they're SHAFT-DRIVE.

Wait, but even before Tartaros and normal TDA were different the IF rule for storm shields had "standard Terminator armour" or "Cataphractii armour" and at the time it would have been kinda odd to exclude one type of TDA just because of astethics.
This seems like a copy-pasta job, us overthinking it or FW not really having put any thought into it.

And about Templar Bros being good : I apolegize, for a moment I forgot that people no longer use infantery but only spam leviathans, quad mortards, armoured breakthrough, sicarans and the like in HH. Shame on me for forgetting it is almost the same as 40k these days.

>>49673932
>And about Templar Bros being good : I apolegize, for a moment I forgot that people no longer use infantery but only spam leviathans, quad mortards, armoured breakthrough, sicarans and the like in HH. Shame on me for forgetting it is almost the same as 40k these days.

The problem with Templars is that they are only good at mulching troops but then what isnt? You are not lacking options to wreck troops so Templars dont bring much to the table.

They're ok, not great.

Saboteur load outs? Keep'em nude and cheap or is a combi weapon maybe a good idea?

>>49673932
Now that Veterans are the cheap sniping power weapon-wielding things they are, how do we make Tacticals great again?

>>49673833
...and how do you know that?

>>49673978
Combi melta is my favorite to ace those dirty vehicles fools leave near the table edge. My saboteur has blown up 2 vehilces in the same turn on multiple occasions.

>>49673991
Pride of the Legion nerfs. All of them. Or maybe allow Fury of the Legion after moving.

>>49674042
Because FW said so at the last weekender?

>>49674164
Actually now that I think about it, they said scorpion body, not abeyant.

>>49674073
Yeah, and make FW pay for the ammo.

>>49674228

When is the next HH weekender?

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>>49674228
>they said scorpion body, not abeyant.
Huh. Well, it's nice to know that FW's pandering to Al.

>>49673978
Combi-melta and a Power Dagger if you have the extra five points.

He'll probably never use it, but if he gets charged it's worth the chance to gank a Sarge.

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>>49674228
>>49674360
It's probably because of the Malodrax triple tailed scorpion, but honestly I'm happy because of these coincidences.

>>49674353
Probably around Feb 2017

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>>49674404
Somehow I knew he'd have one. Spiidesh has been looking out for you, Al.

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>>49674515
>Dream of Kid Scoria
>Scorpions try to sneak on me for a week
>The Church of Spiidesh
>Scorpions delay Inferno for 5 months
>Scoria will get scorpion body
What is going on?

>>49674653

Maybe Scotia's Ascension isn't complete. Maybe he is waiting for something..... Something darker.

>And so it was in those dark times. With the lack of the 7th scroll, many bitter tears were shed among the afflicted. With this dark sacrifice to the gods of resin, a new terror was reborn among the progenitor slayer's ashes. Reforged into the body of a tri-tailed Scorpiones, this malevolent intelligence set his eyes on loftier trophies. First, the progenitor's father, and then the Gods of Chaos themselves.

>>49674812
Scoria*

Fucking autocorrect phone posting.

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>>49674653
>>49674812
Spiidesh is sending us a sign! The Scoria Prophecy's finale is upon us! Go, our scorpion, and complete your destiny.

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Today I played against real Iron Warriors. Sigismund fought bravely, Sigismund fought nobly, and Sigismund died (to Fury of the Legion)

>>49674976
That is one bad parking accident.

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>>49674976
TELL US EVERYTHING.

>tfw looking at SoH rules and special units
>Reavers have cool rules and seem awesome
>Justaerin have pretty cool rules too
>They seem perfect for me
>They have such nice models too
>Except Justaerin. They have okay models
>Horus is the best model FW has ever made, no question
>But they are not my legion
>wait why does the Not!Maloghurst in the command squad have a power axe? No, seriously. It's bugging me that he doesn't have a power sword nor the legion standard.
?

>>49674976
Ballsy move anon, putting your rhino next to a vindicator but who dares wins, right? Keep it up bro.

>>49675064
>>They seem perfect for me
>>But they are not my legion
Then what legion are you and why did you choose it?

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>>49675029
>>49675179
One of his Medusas hit my Vindicator so it was snap firing. Decided to ram his rhino and immobilize it. Then I was stuck. Oops. His army was your typical whirlwind Scorpius, Medusas, quad mortars with phosphex. It was a glorious defeat. Pic related was his deployment.

>>49675064
Vulkan's better.

>>49675265
Such lists take a good amount of fun out of the game.

>>49675265
>whirlwind Scorpius, Medusas, quad mortars with phosphex
Sounds like That Guy if you ask me.

>>49675265
>>49675373
He didn't even fullly paint some of those Ironfire Riders.

>>49675265

Uh, knight anon, you don't live in California do you?

>>49675373
I counter That Guyed him by having mostly vehicles and outflanking rhinos in my Armored Breakthrough. But still as soon as my vets got out they were toast. He had so. Many. Nuncio Voxes. And units to reduce scatter. It was pretty fun but yeah as soon as we got Hammer and Anvil deployment and he got first turn I kinda knew the outcome. Sigismund coming out of the Caestus and shitting on an entire Rapier unit was pretty satisfying. But he was out in the open after and 20 wounds from bolters later he was charging another unit with one round left. Some random taxical mook got him.

>>49675385
Yep it's Game Kastle, second game there. Used to go somewhere else closer but their new location is awful.

>>49675265
Your opponent does realize that they sell leadbelcher in a spray can. Right? He didn't even put the loaders in the Medusa.

>>49675474
Oh, that's cool, stopped by their once while I was visiting.

On another note, any Texas Toy Soldier anons here?

Would it be weird to model Destroyers with a pistol in one hand, CCW in the other, and their second pistol holstered? I have a 5 man MkIV assault squad I'm considering tweaking the construction of to get some Destroyers.

I wouldn't be using that sexy underslung missile launcher though, which is my favourite thing about the original kit and the lack of which almost defeats the purpose, but meh.

>>49675808
if you have the BaC kit you can make an underslung one easily

>>49675808
It won't be the end of the world

>>49675818
Oh yeah? I am sitting on a BaC box, but I hadn't paid too close attention to the missile launcher. I'll take a look, a shoulder-fired missile launcher doesn't make sense with a jump pack, and I was going to be using a modern 40k tube launcher, which is less than ideal.

>>49675808

You can't not have two bolt pistols and having an extra chainsword doesn't give them any extra attacks, so it's completely fine.

>>49675818
I'm looking at the sprue and it doesn't seem like it would convert to underslung very well. What method would you suggest?

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>>49675808
you know what would be pretty cool?

combi-pistols, headhunter-style

>>49675846
Well I mean, they have a CCW in their profile, too.

Any word on Leman Russ rules? Please?

>>49675880
You mean combi-bolters? Part Boltgun, part bolter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU513suJZzY

>>49675939
maybe in 4 months

>>49675954
right but destroyers use pistols

so combi-boltpistols

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>>49675990
>so combi-boltpistols
You are going to drive your Techmarine crazy, you know that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNgP0bV5Cw

>>49665390
So far, faves are easily the models of the chaos bois who are still kickin in 40k, Abaddon, Kharn, and Typhus. Love to see how they once were in more glorious days. Very excited for Ahriman, Lucius, and Bjorn.

>>49675939

AV 14/13/10, Heavy Tank, BS3, HP3.

Main cannon is S8 AP3 Ordnance 1 Large Blast. Can swap it out for other cannons, take sponsons, and a front mounted secondary weapon.

>>49676110
>Bjorn
who? :^)
>>49676125
Ok you win the prize here.

>>49676110
Anon, you know Bjorn isn't going to be in 30k, right?

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Explain me this picture.

>>49676185
Why not? He's been broadly outlined in Prospero Burns, was entrusted to lead the Wolves in Russ's absence, and was a member of the Wolf Guard. Sure, he wasn't a captain, but frankly I'd be happy with him being a 2 wound secondary model. We've had less significant characters than the last remaining loyalist marine from the Heresy be made into models and given rules.

>>49676083
well I'm not going to stop until they make a plastic techmarine

now hand me the duct tape

>>49676216
World Eater going to work, loving wife seeing him off after freshly "polishing his helmet."

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>>49676216
...I think it's you who should explain it to us, anon, especially since I can't find another example of it.

anyone ever buy recast red butchers? I remember seeing a guy post on here about having some but I'd like to know what I'm getting myself into. I usually buy FW stuff but I need to save some burgerbucks before the new plastic set comes.

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>>49676370
I did.

Their power axes are probably gonna break at some point in the near future, but apart from that they're cool.

A couple questions:

1) Is it considered fluff inaccurate to use 40k style rhinos? Do 30k rhinos have to be the old pattern?

2) What do 30k lists usually do for anti-air?

3) Why are dickbickes so expensive in $$$?

>>49676434
>Is it considered fluff inaccurate to use 40k style rhinos?
GW rhinos are Mars pattern. Perfectly kosher for 30k.

>>49676434
1) Yes, but don't let it stop ya from playing. Just play with cool guys who are open to it, but don't expect to get by with it at events/ tournaments. If you're looking to get really into the Heresy, look into converting, or just buy the 30k Rhinos.

2) Quad guns, other flyers, Icarus Lascannons, but fluff-wise and flexibility-wise, your best bet is probably the Whirlwind.

3) Dickbickies?

>>49676495
>1) Yes

Mars pattern vehicles are all good for 30k, its just another rhino pattern.

>>49676495
>Yes
the FW books literally mention the mars pattern rhino was in production during 30k

>>49676434
>2) What do 30k lists usually do for anti-air?
Deredeo!
Kheres Mortis if you're on a budget.

>>49676509
>>49676517
Error on my part. Forgive me.

>>49676495

>dickbickies

Scimitar jetbikes