WIP - Painting and Converting General

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working on a lizardmen army.
Trying to decide what to do with the Cold Ones. Tried adding a layer ontop of the base and wash for one, but I'm not liking how extreme it looks.
Is there a good way to fix that, or should I not bother. Or go for a sorta indian horse look that I'm getting.

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>>49659412
general Saurus scheme I'm going for. Needs another edge highlight on the skin.
Not sure what will look best, a blue/green/grey sounds right but I hate buying a pot for something that minor, and I'm just drop the chroma on a Baharroth Blue.

Also, looking at the citadel guide, WTF their are three different green wash shades used.
I looks like camoshade is basically a mix of agrax and a green, but what's the difference between the other two?

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Guy who painted pic related, my questions still stand from the last thread!

>How did you decide how much blood was enough blood?
>How did you get so much texture and variety on the metal? I'd really like to know this one.
>What was your weathering process for the painted armor bits?

>>49659468
>I looks like camoshade is basically a mix of agrax and a green, but what's the difference between the other two?

Camoshade is, as you said, agrax + green. Coelia Greenshade is a goddamn lie, it's blue. Biel-Tan is a brighter green, less Agrax-like.

I saw a post last thread about how GW's shade comes out really glossy and thought I'd offer a pro tip.

Shake it really well before using it.

>>49659668
Beil-Tan = Green
Camoshade = Brown-Green
Coelia = Teal
Drakenhoff = Blue

>>49659668
so if I really want coelia Greenshade I just mix Drakenhoff and Biel-Tan.
And there is no reason to buy the camoshade because it will just give me what I got mixing agrax+biel-tan.

It's a bit fussy getting the right mixes, but fuck I have basic color theory and I don't buy new pots if I can actually get that color by mixing. Sometimes you can't (experiance has taught me yellows and organes aren't worth trying because those two are primadonnas colors), but sometimes you can.

>>49659774
I personally hate mixing, so the incentive to use Coelia is you'll just get the exact same shade of teal every time. Also I don't KNOW if shades can be mixed like that, but I'm sure they can.

Honestly, you're either taking two brushfulls of a shade each, or one brushfull of one shade. But do whatever works for you, anon.

>>49659621
Also could you post a closeup of the dude on the far right? His chestplate detail is interesting me.

>>49659252
Anyone ever done any papercraft models for 40k? I saw some pictures where they looked like the real deal and some where they looked like utter trash.

Been thinking of trying it out and making a tank or something, surely if you go all out on the greenstuff and paint it'd like pretty good right?

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Just got a new daylight bulb, to replace my yellow light one... Makes a difference in my opinion when painting.

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>>49660180
annnd following up by testing the lighting on models...

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>>49660203

The WIP threads tonight are dead.

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>>49660303
Some of the Mumak Crew in a different "Light"

The daylight bulb is good, but I was hoping for a bit more "clearness" I may have to remove the lampshade...

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>>49660618

>>49660643
Doesn't help that the desk I have is yellow/beige either... I need something like a white or "cool" colored table place matt to take pics on.

I asked a few threads back about art supply acrylics. The kind used for canvas and such.

Well, I decided to go out and get a 12 color starter set of semi-professional tubes (liquitex) and test them out.
Texture is super creamy and viscous, not fluid, needs a lot of thinning to make it work for minis. I put a dab of the stuff on my fingers and worked it a bit, colors were super vibrant and seemed to have good covering potential.

I primed some Zombicide minis to test the paint out and went at it. Flesh tones, black, and white cover reasonably well, but the thick consistency can clog up detail, and once you thin it, it just doesn't cover that well. I tried orange and yellow, and I felt lie I was trying to paint the zombies with washes or watercolor. It's just not possible to achieve a solid color surface.

Drying is A LOT slower too. It seems it could work for feathering, shading, transitions and building color layers. Gotta experiment a bit more.

So, overall, it didn't work as I'd hoped, but I think I can still find some uses for them. I'll post some pics later, if I can.

What's the resolution limit on /tg/?

>>49661047
just because you have an iphone 7 doesn't mean we want a blurry sideways 10 MB image

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>>49661201
>10 MB image
Not exactly...

Hey guys, I want to enter a painting competition and want something that wouldn't be too difficult to paint, that is cheap, and is sci-fi. Any suggestions other than Bones?

>>49661291
>Static WEBM
Go back to /g/

>>49660947
having also tried this, it works better with higher end acrylics, as the pigment count to medium is higher.

The desired thickness for canvas paint is much thicker than model paint, so they use a different medium mixture, and when you add thinning agents to get the consistency you want of that that, you're adding medium but not pigments, so the ratio of pigment goes down.

Canvas paints also can have a drying retardant in their medium, but you can buy that stuff by itself.

If you find a color you really like in the cavas acrylics and you can't find in model colors, see if you can use it in a mix. at 1 to 2 or less the consistency problems go down a fair bit, but you keep a fair bit of the tone of the paint, it it's a good one.

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>>49661455
What's a good tool to use if I want to stipple things like liquid acrylic and liquid greenstuff? Usually I see people using crapped-out paint brushes, but I'm worried the gammed up bristles might be TOO irregular. Is there some kind of - I don't know - tiny, more bristly version of pic related, for something like that? Or am I over thinking it?

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>>49660653
empty box, 2 sheets of paper.
have the one on the back fall into a curve where it hits the bottom.

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>>49661502
Might be too big, but maybe a pool cue tip tool?

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>Return to a previous model to make the paintjob better
>Seeing all the shitty mistakes I made in the rush to be able to call it completed
>Seeming all the shit I should have filed off before assembling it but now it's too late
fuck leadbelch primer. I'm not using that shit on top of grey plastic again. Is two coats of primer a bad idea because that shit has to go over black for it to be useful

>>49661502
do you want it to look like natural (ie rough/random) stippling, or artificial patterned stilliplin.
if you want it irregular, the trash brush does the job, you can make it more or less random looking by controling how you use the brush. It's a textured and irregularly shaped tool now, so play around with you you apply it to a surface.

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I'm getting back into the hobby after a few years and tonight I was inspired by OP's picture. Here's a few of my shitty paint jobs.

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I think my tank painting is better than my dudes painting, but I think that's a given for everyone.

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I made a crude light box out of 2 lamps and a poster, and it shows.

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>>49661580
>>49661568
>>49661559

Anybody got How to Paint GSC they can upload?

I wanna eyeball some color schemes.

>>49661591
Oh yeah, I forgot that was the joke. The thick paint. I missed you /tg/.

>>49661550
I want it to be irregular, but I don't want the bristles to fuse together leaving me with essentially a stick. Is it easy to just crush out the dried green stuff if I just rub the bristles?

>>49661608
Happy to please. The color scheme is good, but the paint is getting laid on way too thick, and you're smothering the details.

I can't offer advice on thinning paints. I don't thin mine at all and they come out thin enough to look okay. Sorry.

>>49661529
Speaking of which what should what happens to resin if I try to reshape it post primer and paint?
And what should I highlight retributor gold washed agrax with?

>>49661632
It's okay, all my paints were from my grandmother so they suffer from the problem that >>49660947 has. But hey, it was a shit load of free paint.

Should I even bother taking photos of my guardsmen? Do y'all want to see some horribly thick paint jobs from years past?

>>49661656
Go for it. I posted my semi-complete Marines last thread, but if I stop being lazy and do the trim on them now, I can post my grand collection.

My entire painted and assembled collection is only about 19 models.

>>49661047
Personal rule of thumb is I scale my pics to 1000px in the longest direction.

>>49661611
never worked with liquid greenstuff so I can't honestly say.

>>49661580
Just move the lamps 45 degrees outwards so the bulb doesn't reflect directly back at the lens. Small shade/diffuser also helps manage contrast and overexposed edges.

>>49661517

What do those do to pool cue tips?

>>49661719
liquid greenstuff has a very poor name. It is more like a really thick paint that shrinks as it dries.

It works for its intended purpose, but it takes some practice to use effectively.

If also needs care for it to dry smooth. The table top minions guy recommends using it to create texture on smooth surfaces.

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Hey /tg/ posted this kitbash a week or two ago, turned into a full blown conversion now. I'm pretty satisfied with it atm - needs a little more work and a few pieces added, but this is the shape/pose/size i'm sticking with

>>49661291
Fuck you dude, I have cerebral palsy and it took me about a minute of staring to figure out that thing doesn't move. :D

>>49661608
Maybe try thinning it next time, then.

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Okay, I just got all my painted dudes on camera. That felt almost like an accomplishment.

1/8

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>>49661953
I didnt even realize I had 5 full squads painted. I have so many unfinished bodies laying around. So many grey/black tanks and torsos.

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>>49661962
This is really, other than one tank, the only thing I've painted in about 4 years. Who knew walls could be so in depth. All that texture. I really enjoyed making it to where the color pattern was consistant if you line them all up.

>>49661900
that's pretty awesome

>>49661953
I remember that bolt pistol commissar.

>>49661953
what the FUCK is up with those chainswords

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>>49661953
>>49661962

>>49661953
Looks really bad desu. The color scheme has potential but your dudes look like theyre melting.

Try giving them a wash, post results. If that doesn't keep people from wanting to blind themselves, strip em and start over.

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>>49662004
Theres just so many of them though!


But youre right, if I strip them, its like I bought all new plastic crack and I get to start over.

Can one pull off camo-pattern AND extreme weathering on a model without it looking like you just fucked up painting?

>>49662025
Who painted that dude with the fancy shoulder pad for you?

Anyone ever used the stone texture spray paints for basing? Is it any good?

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>>49662001
You haven't even seen the assault on black reach blue jean dreadnought. He is very fashionable, even though his dreadnought friends make fun of him for his lazy eye.

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>>49662025
>mfw

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>>49662044
I did! you can tell by the quality of the base work it's mine.

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>>49662058
The ride never ends!

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>>49662082
Joy

>>49661925
I always forget something! Maybe thats it!
>>49661992
The glaze I put on his model was so old it cracked the paint and he looks like a lizard person.
>>49661999
I think it was that priests in 5th ed had evesorators?

>>49662082
lt. varras didn't ask for this

>>49662082
a 20 dollar ultrasonic cleaner and a 10 dollar bottle of super clean will let you turn back time and keep the dream of love alive

>>49662047

What are those jizz stains on the jeannaught meant to be

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>>49662082
>tfw I thought I as doing bad as a beginner
thanks for letting me know it could be much worse anon

>>49662206
Those are his eyes.
>>49662231
Anytime Anon!

>>49662247
Oh man, pls keep posting I'm giggling up a fucking storm

>>49662247

Oh well of course they are, now I feel silly

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>>49661953
>Paints like a living nightmare but the picture quality is better than 90% of the posts in /tg/

This can't be real

>>49661900
I fucking love the creative stuff people come up with the slaughterpriest

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Thinking about picking up Skitarii, but I want to give them a rusty dusty look rather then finishing with a wash like I usually do, any suggestions?

>>49662806
Something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CozRgIaBPgs

>>49662856
Bit of work, but looks great, was really looking for a blanket technique to add a dust covered finish rather then making rusted over metal, like putting rust dustings on the cloaks and such

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So i just found out that i hate painting skin, but at least he's almost finished.

Any c&c welcomed I'm still a newling to painting

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>>49660947
To contribute to this disussion the green and yellow I used for this are both art supply paints.

She's only my second mini and she still needs highlighting so you can decide whether that's a good or bad thing (and then tell me)

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I have an ultramarines upgrade kit but I don't want the ultramarine symbols. do you just use a knife and file to trim away at markings on things like space marine shoulder pads? and maybe use a bit of liquid greenstuff in case it doesn't smooth out properly? or is there a secret way of doing it.

>>49663721
use a dremel with a grinder head

>>49663342
The red armour could do with a little more contrast, maybe some edge highlighting, same goes for the silver parts

The horns on the helmet is a bit flat, a more gradient colour transition will greatly improve its look.

The flesh looks good

>>49663721
I just get pads that don't have chapter markings on them.

>>49663736
thanks. I'll try that out.
>>49663843
I normally do as well, but the chapter upgrade ones are too pimp to pass up.

>>49663875
you can get a dremel these days for like 30 bucks, and they come with heads for everything.

They are useful for repairs around the home too.

>>49663721

>Ultramarines upgrade kit
>fucking covered in ultramarines symbols, some parts are virtually made of them
>I don't want the Ultramarines symbols

For why? Couldn't you have just ordered the one or two parts you might want from a bits store?

Hey guys, how would I go about making a metallic white? Like White Gold or Platinum?

>>49663979
can't find a lot of shoulderpads like that, nor a helmetless dude with laurels, or those two helmets at the bottom. I don't care about the small ultramarine symbols, it's just the bigger ones.

>>49661953
>he brought some eBay models and wants to trigger WIP before stripping them

That is the narrative I forged and I am sticking to it.

>>49661580
"rough" riders

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>>49661953
this reminds me of my creative early attempts

>>49663549
To be honest, you might want to hit her with a darker green wash, because right now the skin looks almost radioactive.

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>>49664663
buck sgt Henry "grenades grenades grenades" Williams

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>>49664687
i think more people should have IG squads with one member converted to a field medic, just for the looks.

>>49664663
Brutal

>>49661953
>>49661962
>>49661983

Do yourself a favor and put these up on ebay and start over from the beginning.

Together with your painted tanks you might get enough for a start collecting box.

Keep bits and unpainted things ofc. (and maybe one of the painted ones as a reminder)

>>49662027
check scale modeler tutorials on yt

>>49662047
>>49662069
>>49662082


Seriously dude. How young were you when you painted these? Did you have access to internet?
What paint/brushes did you use?
Are you disabled? (no offense)

Your stuff reminds me on my own very first 2nd ed space marines. I was 14 and painted them with all kinds of paint i could find in my dads garage.. and of course they looked like shit. But without internet and only one friend to play with (he didn't paint his minis at all at the time) i couldn't really know better.
I learned how shitty my stuff looked when i went to play at a lfgs the first time.

>>49663721
You can use a small file (nail file size) or sand paper or a knife or other tools like a dremel.
Be careful if you do this with a knife..


Besides, its probably easier to get clean shoulder pads (and it will probably look better too because removing the U is one thing, making it look good is another.)

Maybe ask around in your local shop if someone wants to trade your Ultramarine pads with regular ones? Every SM player should have a fairly large number of spare shoulderpads.

>>49659621
>How did you decide how much blood was enough blood?
keep going and when the voice in your head stops saying blood for the blood god
thats the right amount

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>>49661953

>>49664105
Type bits or bitz into the warhammer section of ebay, no matter what country you're in you'll find some good shops.
>>49662082
Dude the one thing I dont get here is, how did you paint SO many models without improving ?

>>49665305
>how did you paint SO many models without improving ?

Thats a good question.

THe only reason i can think of is lack of feedback because no friends/internet and/or doing all of them in a rush with next to no time in between them.

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>>49661953
You're that guy.

>>49661953
I can overlook the horrible paintjob... but these swords? wtf.

>>49664682
That's a fair comment but I think part of that is the lighting - it does look less luminous and less glossy in real life (it's closer to shrek than the hulk). If it's still an issue when I've highlighted I'll give a darker wash a go

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I thought I was bad but wow.

This is something I painted recently.

>>49665322
Keep posting here and watch some youtube vids bud. You wont be winning golden demons anytime soon but you will get better.

>>49665441
I'm not him mate, but what you say is true ofc.

>>49665417
Why are you holding it against the wall?

>>49665495
I think it's a cardboard box

>>49665417
Why is it sideways?

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>>49661953
I remember that commissar.

>>49665507
countries closer to the equator have their gravitational pull adjusted so they dont fall off.

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>>49665417
>>49665549
Oh, that makes sense.

Pretty good paint job anon. Could use a wash or two, but it's definitely getting there. Happy painting!

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The finalized Rangers, with snow bases. They look pretty good IRL, at least.

>>49665573
god damn i didnt know skitarii got revolver rifles. i need to start a new army.

>>49665573
Well done anon! I particularly like the little dusting of frost on the wood of their rifles.

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>>49663342
That free slaughterpriest was my first ever model, had no idea they were so small.

Thinking of getting some tau soon and doing an iridescent paint job sort of like an insect, if thats possible

>>49665632
Fair warning most models are considerably smaller than the priest.

>>49665643
fuck

>>49665632
that'd look good, i think. the easiest way to do that would be a bright silver basecoat with lots of translucent tones of blue over it.

actual light-reflecting paint like that contains Mica or some shit and costs million times more.

question /wip/, if I wanted to do a tone like that, but i wanted it to look more insectlike than metallic, how would i go about it?

>>49665591
Yup, really like their aesthetics.

>>49665598
Thanks. That was actually unintentional dust from the snow material that I washed off after seeing it... But maybe it's not a bad idea.

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>>49665643
>most models are considerably smaller

BUT NOT ALL, BATTLE-BROTHER

>>49663342
youre copying my teal cloth.

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>>49661953
>Those swords

>>49665657
Gloss coating over black undercoat + blistering insectoid color maybe.

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>>49665632
Vallejo has a pretty nice metallic blue, if that's what you want, called Metal Azul/Gunmetal Blue. It's not really iridescent, but looks neat. I used it on the armour of this guy (who has about 50% of the mass of the slaughterpriest, btw. Tau are even shorter).

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>>49665372

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>>49665654
To give you an idea the gold dude is about the size of the priest. The marine is a touch bigger than most 40k infantry.

>>49665746
This is funny to me. I looked at the picture before reading the post and my initial reaction was 'nice mini, but man that metallic is ridiculously grainy and low quality'.

Metallics should be smooth. If you can clearly see the metal grains then it's not a good paint. It ruins the illusion completely.

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So this is my IG I have so far.

Currently it's a single platoon of veterans with command squad, two chimera, and two russes. Both russes have pegs or magnets that allow them to be any configuration except exterminator.

The chimeras still need to have their chocolate chips applied, as well as washes and general weathering, and one squad and the command team aren't done being painted yet. Only one of them is based, and one sergeant is currently being painted by my dad because I like getting him involved in these sorts of things; he's done this sort of thing a lot longer than I have.

The more astute eyed of you have probably noticed the demolisher russ actually has a panzer 4 model turret. As much as I wish I could say that was my conversion, at the time it was converted I had little experience chopping up shit so after I almost botched it I handed it to my dear pops, who made it work. Since it's more his work than mine I'm saving the painting for him.

The soldiers are all kitbashes using spare skitarri parts, wehrmacht heads, and sparing use of plastic tubes.

Some day I hope to have an entire regiment of these guys; technically two regiments, since I'm pretty sure armor has their own regiments apart from mechanized.

What do you guys think of the newest painting video Duncan made?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvXRrcmyr6o&ab_channel=WarhammerTV

>>49665799
literally just a plasma gun

>>49665799
Super new and original.

>>49665786
Yeah, it's rather grainy, but I don't mind it, at least not here. Maybe it would look wrong on larger armour areas though.

Does anybody have any tutorials (or tips) for sculpting scales from green stuff?

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Finished my Necromunda gang tonight!

>>49666293
They don't seem very cohesive anon, except for the bases and even then you've got lipped on some and citadel on others.

>>49666257
I'd probably start with a strip at the bottom and cut out triangular (or whatever shape you want) shapes from that, then make every new layer slightly overlapping the last. If you use oven paper, you can press out flat shapes and cut them before sticking them on, as the greenstuff won't stick as much to it (I think, it works with other types of putty, at least).

>>49666293
What the hell kinda gang is that?

>>49666293
Gangs should have a color, a unifying symbol of thug life. I can't tell if it's yellow, red, or their skin at this point.

>>49665799
he skipped the middle step...

>>49665691
And i have no a shame anon, its a gorgeous idea

>>49666568
Ash Waste Nomad

>>49666606
It's yellow. There is yellow on every model - I wanted to work with a limited pallet of red, yellow, black and white.

>>49666375
I don't know what you mean. They all have the same base accept for the large based models, because the company I bought them from didn't make bases in that sze

>>49665756

Yeah, but I don't think they're actual eviscerators. It looks like he glued two chainswords together to make them and didn't line them up properly

>>49666650
perhaps you shoulda gone with bases that come in all the sizes you need from a single company, they already hardly fit together as models and if you wanna say the yellow ties them together, you need to throw some more on half of the models

I bought a copy of Dark Vengeance cause I wanted some dark angels, anyone tried to convert the chaos cultists inside into GSC?

>>49666650
>Ash Waste Nomad
Cool, haven't looked them up. They can have robots? The group is certainly looking interesting.

>>49666606
I think they look alright. They're a bunch of misfits working together, not a dance troupe. The pattern on the bases ties them together, if nothing else.

>>49661992
>>49665542
It's the first gallery picture in the 1d4chan article for THIN YOUR PAINTS.

>>49667252
I don't go to 1d4chan. I remember when he posted it in these threads, probably years ago now.

>>49665417
paint the holster straps brown, clean up the other colours, then wash it with thinned down agrax, and it'll look great.

>>49667282
>image uploaded on 14 March 2009

That commissar was painted at least 7 years ago.

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Are your wallets ready?

>>49663549
What brand are you using?

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>>49667659
And proof.

>>49667659
>>49667693

And here I am sitting on 5 boxes of skeleton snakes and 3boxes of tomb guard

Oh well.

>>49667693
I cant wait to buy overpriced models that no longer have any use in the modern game.

>>49667693
If it helps bring back some stuff that is priced far in excess of its worth on ebay, cool. Maybe I can get more Kasrkin and Storm Troopers.

>>49667659
Yep. Safely in my pocket, and not a single cent will leave for GW's accounts.

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>>49667686
Pic related.
I think both types were about £3 at hobbycraft. I used them mixed with mini paint on my last model and also used the black to make a wash. I thin them down with water but I seem to end up with something similar to the normal paint in consistency.

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First model finished!
Sorry for the pic, took it at my local game store.

>>49667693
Does this mean I can finally field that squat kill team I've been dreaming of

>>49667659
>>49667693
This might be nice. some of the white metal oop models are much nicer than the finecast counterparts. Assuming the price is right I might pick up a few of those.

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holy FUCK
I'VE GOT THREE CRISIS SUITS AND THREE PIRANHAS TO FINISH BY SATURDAY
WHAT THE F U C K AM I DOING ON /WIP/?

>>49668105
You've done alright, shame about the faction choice though. Presumably you have a tournament game or something that requires you to have those models done?

>>49668120
YEAH PRETTY MUCH
ALSO DON'T TAUSHAME ME FUCKER I'M NOT EVEN BRING ANY FORMATIONS

>>49668144
Well it seems like you're having a stroke so I don't think Saturday will be a problem lad.

>>49668077
Careful with that monkey's paw, every single metal miniature will be converted into Finecast 2: Even Finer™

>>49667659
>>49667693
So is this a limited time offer? Or is this something thats going to stay?

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>>49666629
i havent finished mine yet so you're the originator i guess. teal is often used as an accent color with khorne though. look at the new Kharne model studio scheme for instance.

your slaughtepriest model looks great btw

>>49668017
Pls respond ;-;

>>49668017
>>49668457
Looks red and spooky. Good job Anon, keep it up.

http://jobs.games-workshop.com/2016/10/03/social-video-assistant-nottingham-uk/

Now, I ain't saying it will happen, but one of us could stand in Duncan's presence on a daily basis.

So if one of you is near Nottingham and looking for a job, now's your chance

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Started painting Descent for a customer.

Freehanded the bases.

Also, GOD, THOSE ZOMBIES MODELS, WTF. I mean, how do you even make these heaps of puke look like SOMETHING? It's super thin soft plastic too, so it's really difficult to trim any of that flash without just cutting the whole thing apart accidentally.

Anyway, I started with them to get them out of the way.

>>49668660
the bases look better than the models. thats a good thing in this case.

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>>49668660
On the other hand, I cannot wait to start painting these guys.

>>49668692
can you talk about how you do the painting/preshading?

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b-b-be gentle /WIP/

>>49668881
Delicious red. I want to eat that plasma coil.

>>49668881
a bit of weathering wouldn't hurt.

In case any of you is interested in ordering things from Greenstuffworld, if you enter "CrazyPunch" you'll get 15% discount. Valid for 10 days.

>>49667724

So you need to sell them then? Now.

>>49668881

For future reference, try not to let your wash pool

>>49668720
Black primer, gray midtones for the "ambiant" lighting from all side as a cone from the top, light gray/white in similar but tighter angles and finally a highly diluted yellow from the very top.

>>49668881
That's one hell of a candy coil you have here.
Your green could be smoother, as of now the brushstrokes are quite visible. You might want to invest into an airbrush, or take more time on the basecoats to fo thinner, more numerous layers.
Other than that it's pretty good.

>>49669097
thanks. then are you justa pply very thin layers of color afterwards? one "color" on each area or do you do highlights with the colors as well?

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>>49669066
This. Feels bad to have bought old minis for high prices on ebay... but it feels good to know that everyone can have a genuine johnny in the future.

Pic related is probably a thing of the past now.
or maybe not, if all they are going to offer will be finecast

>>49669144
If I'm working on a high quality paintjob, I pretty much start over on top of it and only use it as a reference.

If I'm painting cheaper... it depends. It's still typically better to do a thin-ish basecoat on top of it anyway. (Unless you paint too thick, there should still be a subtle lighting effect)

>>49667659
I'm gonna load up on Arbites if that is true.

>>49669191
>>49669144

Forgot to add, if you make the preshading going more from gray-to-white washes would work. Keeping the black makes washes look awful.

>>49669151
As another anon said, it is more likely we'll see models that went Last to Buy being available rather than completely OOP models.

>>49669212
>arbites
>inquisition storm troopers
>some rogue trader minis
>inquisitors
>warhammer fantasy chaos champions
>40k chaos lord

...

this will kill my wallet for sure

>>49669243

The first pic reads otherwise, but the 2nd indicates it. We'll see.

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>>49668017

Real nice! Never thought of painting these in a red color, but they look pretty damn nice!
For being a "first model", you get an A+, my first model (long before the existence of the Internet, and "how to" books where a expensive and rare commodity) looked like a turd..... no literally a lizardmen green-brown turd....

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Panzer IV update: holy shit am I glad I only paid $20 for this thing, the schurzen are completely fucked; the rear curved portion is warped and the mounts don't even remotely line up properly with the turret geometry. The rest of the tank had some slight warping and mold lines but these are just BAD. Still considering trying to un-fuck it because the turret skirt is dead sexy. Shitty phone picture just to show how nicely the 40k hatches fit on the Pz.IV cupola.

>>49669280
Very smooth, yet the dust on his legs are a bit *too* smooth. Make it less homogenous and more "grimy". Otherwise it's very well done, nice touch with the sword (was it added, or part of the dread kit?)

>>49666293
Some pretty shitty comments for a pretty swish looking gang. Good job.

If you want to satisfy the hateful masses, try adding a unifying shoulder pad or other identifying marker to each one.

>>49667249
Ash Waste Nomads is Necromunda 2.0 that was released for like a few months before GW canned Chapter Approved.

It's the gangs outside the Spire, in the ash wastes. It has a lot more options (Vehicules! Including a gang that is basically a caravan that lives in a giant sandcrawler-type tank... which you field), a lot less ammunition (Lasguns ftw) and overall better.

>>49669336
is that you lindybeige

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A Kitbashed Wulfen Chief made from a once Wolf Priest and Wulfen limbs. Tried making a dark, polished wood look for the totem but the camera can never pick it up properly.
Crappy pic aside, thoughts?

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>>49669511

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>>49667693
So, they're betting on a nostalgia fueled consummeristic orgy.
Dunno 'bout you faggots, but I ain't going back to this (pic related) shit.
A ton of GW's vintage stuff was objectively bad, even by 80s/90s standards. The material and technical limitations on the sculpting and casting made for some pretty ridiculous posing.

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>>49659621
Just got back, so I'll answer questions in next post

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>>49669957
>How did you decide how much blood was enough blood?
I just splatted it on the weapons a bit then used the flick technique the GW guy teaches in the video, nothing special.

>How did you get so much texture and variety on the metal? I'd really like to know this one.
>What was your weathering process for the painted armor bits?

I got similar questions when I first posted my Dark Souls inspired miniature.
I'm planning on making a video on how I paint metal because I think it's quite a unique technique that isn't that hard but is pretty different to how GW tell you to paint.

It's basically less is more is key. I use the metal paint as reflections of light and let the black undercoat do most of the work.
Try to think of the metal as black unless light is shined onto it, and I basically drybrush it on, but it's so dry it's almost dust. Then I use skull white to emphasise the parts that are really shiny i.e. edges.
I only recently learnt about the washes range and how to use them, so now I use the washes ontop of the black undercoat and it emphasises the effect more.
I'd be interested to know whether people here would like me to do a video for this?

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>>49667659
>Are your wallets ready?

I still need the proper item number, m8. He's been deleted from Imperial records.

>>49669935
Pretty sure it's because recasts are easier to get than oop. Which puts otherwise legit customers in contact with recasters who also do new shit for 1/5th of the price and the customer never going back to GW once they realize they can buy everything they ever wanted for cheaper than a single legal army.

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>>49670026
You bet your ass I'd want a video if you're the one that made the famous DS stormcast!

>>49670026
I'd love a video on how you do your metal, I think it looks excellent and a tutorial would be very helpful in trying to replicate it. Still love that Dark Souls Stormcast, btw.

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>>49667659
It'll be nice to buy new Sisters without going for overseas proxies.

>>49670064
New stuff is plastic though, and I gladly pay 5 times as much to get hard plastic over metal/resin.

>>49670064
Good point. Anyways, if these are going to be "made to order" you can bet your sweet ass they'll charge a premium, which means recasts are going to be even cheaper comparatively.

>>49667659
Do you think they'll make the old vehicles available again? I wish forgeworld would also do this

>>49669935
True, but some of the metal minis were simply great, even by todays standards.

Nobody expects you to buy the old and ugly things.

>>49670026
Absolutely, even more so now that you've explained the technique because it sounds like it wouldn't work, but clearly it does. Do you have a youtube channel?

>>49666293

Well painted though the grossly overzied parts on some things look akward. I like it, but I'm not really feeling the theme. Shouldn't the ash wastes... have more ash?

>>49668017

The red highlights make it come alive, good job. It lacks a focal point but they're pretty spoopy, rattle rattle. If you're doing more of these, maybe convert one to hold a pale bone shiv?

>>49670277
It's a pretty basic TMM (True Metallic Metal) technique.

>>49668105

Just start by getting your basecoats on there so they are at least somewhat presentable. Take your time doing the details and if you can't finish, take them as is.

>>49669025

Might just get some rolling pins then. Wish they had more jungle themed stuff like plants and such.

>>49670182
Legitimacy, trust and reliability... technically. If they don't HAVE to go through the hassle of finding a chinaman, most whales won't.

>>49668105
Go buy an airbrush, or paint with cans.

>>49670346
I've never heard of it before though. It seems closer to a Mixed Metallic Metal technique. Is there a name for it, if I want to search it in detail later?

>>49667659

LOOK AT ME

I AM THE SCALPER NOW

So GW finally discovered ebay eh?

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Update of this guy. Pants and some straps done.
Loin cloth is under development.

>>49667659
>>49667693
Will they sell John Diaz daemonettes?

>>49670615

I fucking hope not, I've been stockpiling those for a rainy day.

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>armies on parade is actual next week
>I have 1 week to base 20 models, paint a Herald of disc on tzeentch and do my entire aop
>can only start in 2 days as my shits 7000kms away so I really only have exactly a week
Suicide seems like a good alternative right now lads

>>49670740
can I have your minis if you do

>>49670740

So just paint a few minis really well and put the rest in some sort of warp portal looking thing with blue foil in front of it so they look colored.

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Finished my first models. Looking for criticism and tips on how to improve them or for future models. I've got some Deathwing Terminators primed and ready right now.

>>49671069
Pretty good! Nice and clean. The brush work could be a little bit better though.

Try experimenting with washes and highlights in the future. Also what paints are you using? Or did you use a gloss varnish? Because they all look rather plasticy-shiny.

>>49671069
Looks decent, those transfers aren't done right though.

>>49667659
SO MANY JOHNNYS
SO LITTLE TIME

>>49671136
Thanks, I used regular citadel paints. I think maybe I put the wash on too thick, and my light source is reflecting off it? I want to give highlighting a go but I'm never quite sure which parts or where I should be drawing the highlight lines on.

>>49671138
Cheers, any idea what I might've done wrong? I figured they're not supposed to be that shiny, did I not leave them in the water long enough?

>>49662047
That fucking plasma cannon

Sup, germanfag here, what's a cheap alternative to greenstuff that I can get around these parts?

>>49665573
how the fuck do the bullets get into the barrel?

>>49671300
Kneadatite is the original stuff before it gets rebranded by model companies, it's usually a lot cheaper.

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/14150-1-show-green_stuff_rolle_8zoll.html

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/14149-1-show-green_stuff_rolle_36zoll.html

as two examples, they're quite a bit cheaper for the quantity you get.

>>49671317
magic

>>49671317
Pretty sure that cylinder is a battery

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Do I give him a Nuln Oil wash?

Do I just paint him black?

>>49671336
Alright, is there an alternative I can get in home depot stores maybe?
There's no german company offering that stuff?

>>49671387

Naw man, just give him like a blue-green mixed wash and put a LED under him, then a coat of matte varnish.

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>>49671236
They're not flat enough, and the glossy surface sticks out. Usually what I do with transfers is paint a layer of watered down 'Ardcoat so I have an even glossy surface, then paint on a generous layer of Micro Set and place the transfer on and dab down with a wet cloth. Micro Sol plus cloth until smooth. Don't overdo it or it'll tear. Once I've ironed all the creases out I paint over with another watered down layer of 'Ardcoat, followed by a couple of layers of Lahmian Medium for a matt effect.

But really, transfers are fucking hard.

>>49671401
You did see that that is Battlefield Berlin right?
A German store (physically located in Berlin), who happen to have an english language option on their webstore.

As for stuff that local stores may have, I imagine Milliput of various grades will be sold at art supply stores, though I'm not familiar enough with the material to tell you which type is best for your purpose.

https://www.pk-pro.de/Modelliermassen is another German webstore that supplies many different materials suitable to your needs at various price points.

>>49671465
Thanks for the tips, sounds like a lot of shit to do though. I'm honestly considering just painting the symbols on next time

>>49671476
Alright, thanks, at least I know what I'm looking for now!

>>49671488
That's not easier, but it is good practise.

>>49671488
That's what I do. Takes practice to get proper straight lines and such but it works better for me. I tried making little stencils once too but feehand worked better for me.

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>>49659252
Is this terrible for a first try?
Phone Focus is wank so thats as good as it gets

>>49671495
No worries, I hope you find what you're looking for.

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>>49671525
back side

>>49671525

Looks alright mate. It's in the lines and the coverage is good. Give him an Agrax Earthshade wash and he'd ve sorted.

>>49671525
For a first try, having the miniature still looking like the model it started out as is a good start.
And it's still clearly an Orc, so you're past step one.
I would recommend more practice to improve your brush control, the highlights are a bit rough and blotchy.
A wash around his teeth and skin should help define them more clearly.

The rest really comes down to practice and familiarity.
You appear to have thinned your paints to some extent, which is already ahead of many people starting out.

Keep it up Anon, and you'll improve over time.

>>49671525
>>49671540
Picture is fine. Paint is fine for a first try, keep at it. Thin more.

>>49671587
>>49671585
>>49671556
Thanks, slightly unrelated question but would leadbelcher look good on a deffkopta? trying to mix it with some other yellows for a bad moons type deal

>>49671525

A backdrop like a piece of white paper or a white wall right behind the mini would help the focus and quality of the picture. So does better lighting not directly aimed at the mini.

For the paintjob, the colors seem to be where they should be which is better than most beginners. You can do little things like making the metal bits on the metal parts different colors of metal. By that I mean make some parts darker or just shade them with a wash.

>>49671499
>>49671513
I think I could do it, but I can easily see myself having trouble making them consistent. Like a bunch of tactical marines with non-identical arrows

>>49662082
>>49662069
>>49662047
>>49662025
>>49661962
>>49661953
Back in HS had a friend with an Ork army

He wanted to make it super brutal, so he went for gore.

He had "blood" dripping out of the barrels of their shootaz and tank barrels...

God I wish I had taken pics.

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>>49667659
Damn it!
I already have two of these little buggers I need to finish, I don't need more of them!

>>49670038
Do you have any experice working with the Rogue Trader Chainblades like in pic related? I'm not exactly sure how they're supposed to fit on.

>>49669478
Cool. They made Gorkamorka later, so it didn't all go to waste, I guess.

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>>49667659
Fuck, there go my dreams of having rare oldschool models. For the best.

Atleast I can get more old style predators.

>>49672017
>>49671856

I reeeeally don't think they're gonna pull the lever on the way-back machine that far. I'm thinking necromunda metals is about as far as it's going.

>>49672041
What makes you think that?

>>49671891
Ash Waste Nomads is like 10 years later than Gorka Morka. It's the LAST iteration of necromunda. The rules actually don't suck.

>>49671856
It's called a sarissa, and it goes like you did.

>>49672052
Just based on how far back their "webstore exclusive" stuff goes since it's essentially just a fraction of that era of stuff. They're already essentially doing this whole thing for the metals in there, they don't have the blue/black blister packaging, it's all white citadel packaging. It would be nice to have stuff super old come back but it may be too much to hope for considering some of the stuff they used to make might be stuff they want forgotten like squats.

>Order a bunch of washes and glazes to paint my Orks really fast.
>Not getting here until the 12th.

JUST

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Finally done with this model; man it was a pain in the ass. Mold imperfections all over the place and so much surface area absolutely everywhere. And it's so shiny that the thing is nearly impossible to photograph.

Still, it turned out... okay I suppose. I learned things, which is good. I learned a lot of things about Scale 75 paint, which I used exclusively on him.

And yes, I will be fixing the feet. I just noticed that now and am too lazy to redo the pictures. Looks like I was perhaps a bit overzealous with the superglue.

>>49668120
>shame about the faction choice though

how so? he's collecting the finest xenos in the galaxy

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So I have little to no experience doing conversions and I wanted some advice on a project idea. I was thinking about doing some command squad bikes for an Iron Hands Fist of Medusa list (to take advantage of their crazy FNP bonuses) but since they're supposed to be special units of veterans I figured they deserve cool models.

I've always liked the FW bikes more than the GW bikes, but the Mk IV stock armor they come with just doesn't look like Iron Hands to me. FW does have an upgrade set for MkIV that basically makes it a hybrid of MkIV and MkIII that looks alright, but I don't know if it work work with the bike legs (like I said, never done conversions before). The main thing that concerns me is the metal loincloth thing that hangs down from the torso bit to cover the crotch area. I looked at a few pictures of the Outrider bits pre-assembly and it *might* work, but I wanted to ask for opinions before I bought anything.

Also, the Outriders only come with bolters and plasma for special weapons, and I obviously need more than that (grav, melta, a Narthecium for the apothecary, maybe even storm shields if I really want to juice 'em up, etc.). Any ideas of what bits to use for this? I could try the FW grav weapon kit, but since 30k grav is technically different than 40k grav I'm afraid it wouldn't read well.

Either way I'm probably going to wait a bit to buy since the GBP is still falling in value and I'm in Burgerstan.

>>49668105
Ke'lshan? Got any more pictures of the army? I've wanted to do that scheme for a while but it seems like there's not many decent examples for how to do the suits.

So far painting any miniature, vehicle or character, you usually use a matte paint. Yet citadel and a couple others sell glossy paint. What miniatures would you rather have glossy paint over matte?

>>49672347
Unless you can actually get your hands on 40k grav bits, just go with the FW equivalent. You're already using Heresy-era Iron Hands armor, nobody will fault you for it. If anything they'd look better.

As for the loincloths (a trait shared with the Death Guard, weirdly enough) most if not all FW bits are resin, which means if you just dip the loincloth in hot water for a minute or so it should soften enough that you could bend it with a pair of pliers. Bend it however you want (preferably at a sharp angle since it's an armor joint) then hold it for a minute or so for it to harden. Boom, done.

>>49672523
>As for the loincloths (a trait shared with the Death Guard, weirdly enough) most if not all FW bits are resin, which means if you just dip the loincloth in hot water for a minute or so it should soften enough that you could bend it with a pair of pliers. Bend it however you want (preferably at a sharp angle since it's an armor joint) then hold it for a minute or so for it to harden. Boom, done.
Oh, duh, I totally forgot about that. Thanks, though!

Do you think it might be wise to do some of the painting before it's fully assembled? It looks like it would be very awkward to get in there and get the torso done correctly once he's on the bike/legs and has the arms out in front of him.

>>49672409

Anything Eldar.

>>49672610
You could do a multi-stage assembly, but make sure you adjust the loincloths first. Know how it's gonna fit together first, but that's kinda obvious.

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Putting the finishing touches on test scheme Harlequin.
I think I'm happy with the outcome but how are you meant to paint checkers on a whole army of clowns without losing the will to live. Do checkers actually show up that well on the tabletop?

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WIP of my first unit of neophytes, how they looking? Still need to work on the guns, legs/shoes, basing & probably one further highlight on the oranges

>>49672856

Pretty good. I would have made the skin paler myself.

>>49662082
These aren't well painted really but it's still better than a grey horde, and i think it's cool that you make wacky conversions. I used to do that when i first started and wanted to make things look cool. Now i don't much which is a shame, so keep going.

>>49672872
I may yet still, it seems to look lighter in person though I think

>>49670740

You keep talking about this, but I bet you'd actually get shit done if you just sat down and did it instead of not doing it and posting about it.

>>49672409

Tyranids, Grey Knights, orcs, DE

>>49673333
Really orks? Because i've been painting them with only matte paint and it seems to be fine.

>>49664048
I would try mixing some silver white and a little bit of blue

>>49673397
>not oiling up the boyz

>>49669151
I never understood this picture. A bunch of $10 witch hunter minis, and two space marine casualties that are STILL IN PRODUCTION. unless that's the joke

>>49669935
RT orks don't charm you? go play infinity

>Dust down my painting table after a month or so
>Spend three hours basecoating, basing and hacking up stuff

Fucking kill me. I've joined that 1houranight group on Facebook, one day I'll paint enough to have a little blog or something, that would be nice.

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Concept wise on the rifle barrel glow, yes or no? I got 1 yes from my friend. The other option is the standard leadbelcher+nuln oil.

Give me your IG paint schemes.

Especially ones involving blue and grey.

>>49674276
Aw

Man, it's a slow thread tonight.

>>49674174
Looking good. Could almost pass for a necron tube.

>>49674566
They actually looks like Necron tubes with just the coat of Moot green on them. But so far it looks like a good reception, so I'll do both squads like that then. Thanks.

>>49672856

I really like it anon, looking forward to seeing more. Keep us posted. Love the color scheme.

>>49674451
You're a slow thread.

>>49662058
>tfw rolled a 1 on plasma and survived

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>>49674451
I'd post my stuff, but not in the mood to be insulted tonight. I'll post some tomorrow or over the weekend perhaps.

>>49675500

>Be a man

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>>49672856

Aw yeah.

>>49672347
Anon, that's a MkIII upgrade set. They're displayed on the MkIV models because those are what BaC comes with.

And oh, does it trigger my armor autism so.

>>49672347
>>49675829
Adding onto that, the loin cloth bit is extra armor that is on all suits of MkIII, and a smaller version is on all sets of MkII.

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>>49675500
I will. So far so good on these barrels.

Think I'm done for the night.

>>49676000
Beautious

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First timer here, give any and all critique, even if it isnt constructive

(sorry about phone post, only way i can take pictures atm)

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>>49675829
>that's a MkIII upgrade set
it could also pass as a modified MkIV.

Yeah it lacks the four exterior cables on your average MkIV, but it also lacks the extra plating of the MkIII. And both have that weird "can't bend forward ever" shape.

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>>49676054
Take landscape pics to avoid the 'sideways phenomenon"

Is this a Soul Drinkers marine?

>>49676062
It doesn't lack the extra plating though. The shoulders depicted in that pack are for MkIV, yes, but everything else in there is clearly MkIII.

I agree with you on the chest pieces in that they could be passed off as modified/up-armored MKIV.

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>>49676091
>but everything else in there is clearly MkIII
Nah, MkIII's got a huge barrel chest because of the thick exterior plate bolted on the front. The upgrade chests are quite slim in comparison.

The heads are straight MkIII, the pads are straight MkIV, but the chests have elements of both and could passably be used with suits of either mark without looking out of place.

>>49676138
Anon I said that the shoulders were MkIV. Because that pack is designed with BaC in mind.

>>49676054
>>49676084
alternatively, crop your photo even if by the tiniest amount

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>>49671856
>Do you have any experice working with the Rogue Trader Chainblades like in pic related? I'm not exactly sure how they're supposed to fit on.

That's how they're supposed to fit. They're meant to be "combat accessories" to the old Umbra-pattern bolters that came with the RTB-01 beekees. Most of the metal beekees from that era (including Johnny) also carry the Umbra.

>>49672017
>Fuck, there go my dreams of having rare oldschool models. For the best.

Huh... I just sold one of those in the box for $40.00.

>>49676138
Mix and match for whatever looks coolest. It triggers autists and lets the models double as mid/post-heresy marine heroes as well.

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>>49667659
>>49667693
>Maybe Kasrkin
no, pls

>>49676054
You've missed some bits but you get better at picking stuff like that out over time.

Pick a base colour to use for your armour, then wash the mini with a little bit of nuln oil this will fill in and darken the armour panels. Then use a layer paint to bring the colour back into the armour. Lastly if you want to do some highlights pick a third colour, lighter than your layer paint and lightly drag the brush across the raised area's.
It'll take some time but you'll get there.

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I fucked up my knee and doctors say I have to keep off it for a week which means no going out and having fun so I decided to get back into 40k after like 7 years.

What have I done

>>49677123
Godamn sideways southern hemisphere posting

New bread when?

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>>49661953
I'm certainly no "pro" painter like the rest of WIP, but goddamn nigga thin those fucking paints

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>>49676054
Pretty good anon, looks a lot like my first 40k model.
Im no expert, but i made some suggestions for you.

>>49677123
>Chaos marines
anon I am truly sorry...

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>>49668105
im jealous of your color choices.
i went with the orange black grey
still in the early stages with these guys tho

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I really want to buy some stuff but I am going away for business next week.

I am thinking of buying an airbrush and painting the DV chaos side and a box of Raptors with it, and I kind of want to buy another Terminator Lord to build and paint., into some terrible bad mini-warband.

I wish there was another kit with nice Chaos Space marines.

>>49677505
Are chaos no longer good? I was gonna make a nurgle force coupled with demons n shit

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Hey guys, just asking for some feedback on my faces, I tried following the tutorial from this months WD, but just cant get them quite right. Any tips?

>>49677922
Chaos Demons are fine, Chaos Marines are not competitive, but they can still work if you are willing to make them work.

Most units in the codex are very overpriced for what they are, and have to pay a premium for upgrades, but if you avoid spending too many points on silly things and list build carefully it isn't exactly terrible.

Loyalists have got a lot of new kits and free rules over the years, chaos marines got almost nothing. The Khorne Berserker kit is literally from the 90s.

But the Dark Vengeance chaos marine and cultist models? They are gorgeous! I wish GW would roll out some new CSM kits to match them.