>A volley of arrows pierce your soft middle This is what

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>>49581201
No they don't, because the armor's stats are independent of its coverage.

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>>49581217

Tell that to Achilles

>>49581201
Don't volleys arc down from above?

>>49581237
Achilles isn't a roleplaying game character.

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>Not using your Iron Body technique to have the arrows bounce harmlessly off your skin

Do you even Xia?

>not having enchanted boob plate

Faggot.

>>49581201
OP you dumbass that's a goddess. You can't kill those with fucking arrows.

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>>49581201
>Implying longbows and crossbows can't penetrate plate armor.
>Not using a shield to block arrows.

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>>49581261
Just add armor!

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>>49581201
You got the wrong pic OP

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>>49581201
That is not how bikini armour works, anon.

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>wearing armor

>>49581201
Judging by that picture, her "soft middle" is the toughest part of her body. Looks like the armor's actually weakening her. She should probably fight without.

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>>49581201
oh look
it's
T H I S
T H R E A D
A G A I N

>>49581201
Ironically, I cant see a single arrow in that picture that ISN'T going through a piece of armor.

>>49581201
>Callisto will never hogtie the poor peasant girl I'm courting and then rape me in front of her

>>49581201
>Post about fantasy armour not covering enough.
>Picture shows armour intercepted every shot. No exposed flesh touched.

Clearly the coverage isn't the issue here. It just needs to be tougher.

Boy I sure do love when dumb faggots come to bitch about Red Sonja not getting hurt when in the comics she gets stabbed roughly five times a fucking issue.

>>49581356
Batman did it with a gun. Same thing fundamentally

>>49581237
Why did Achiless even wear armor, if he was invincible? And he totally wore full armor that was later borrowed by Patroklos.

>>49581848
>Why did Achiless even wear armor, if he was invincible?
Did he actually know he was invincible? I can't remember if his mom ever told him what she did.

>>49581892
I think that's something you'd figure out about yourself really quick.
Honestly, what he should've done is just encased his foot in bronze.

>>49581848
Achilles being invincible was never really a thing that the old legends focused on. If you read the Illiad, you'd notice that a lot is made of him being an unbeatable fighter, but as far as I remember, there is zero mention in the text of him being physically invincible. If he was, then Hector would never have agreed to duel him in the first place.

Your fault for having a soft middle.

>>49581358
>his arrows can't penetrate shields
pussy.

>>49581502
who?

>>49581916
lmao baby dick faggots

I just started watching Xena on netflix. I should go back to that.

>>49581980
why didn't she just dip his ankle along with the rest of him? they never explained that.

>>49582751
She was holding him BY his ankle, so that the most of him would be dipped without letting go of him.

>>49582802
but why would that prevent her from just lowering him a few more inches? or dipping him a second time, feetfirst?

>>49582751
Do you want to have anything less than a firm grip on something you're dipping into the styx?

>>49582822
She probably only had one dip.

>>49582802
Because double dipping him would kill him.

>>49582822
>but why would that prevent her from just lowering him a few more inches? or dipping him a second time, feetfirst?
This is going to sound amazingly convoluted, but the entire story is just some bullshit to explain why humans have a debilitatingly vulnerable weakness on their ankles.

>>49581848
Status symbol. Well made, and thus expensive, armor served as a status symbol, and made him easily identifiable on the battlefield by the soldiers he commanded.

>>49582838
your hand doesn't suddenly lose all ability to hold anything because it gets wet. it would take like an additional 3/4ths of a second to attain total invulnerability forever.

>>49581848
FOR FUCK'S SAKE

ACHILLES WASN'T INVINCIBLE

THAT WAS SOME ROMAN FAN FICTION WRITTEN WAY AFTER HOMER

>>49582822
Because that would be like putting her whole mouth in the bowl.

>>49581992
>>49583251

Yeah I always got the impression this was the case. Achilles was a big deal because he was their best fighter and general, not because he was Superman.

>>49583308
But she was dipping him in a river, not a bowl.

>>49581475
women can't rape.
:^)

>>49583337
It's incredibly annoying how the literal fan fic written way after Homer's oratory work became the common perception of Achilles. Achilles is not invincible, he's special because he's a god damned demigod and thus is able to destroy a hundred men in melee without threat, hack clean through cloth or bronze plate armor, and pose a big threat to entire garrisons. Doesn't mean that somebody can't get a lucky shot and manage to shoot him in the eye, or he faces off with another grand hero like Diomedes.

>>49583401
Achilles is a fictional character, therefore he is whatever anyone says he is.

>>49583485

This reasoning is retarded.

Just because a character isn't real doesn't mean a third party is justified in ruining that character.

>>49583720
Fictional characters don't exist, so they can't be ruined. All depictions of a fictional character exist simultaneously and independently. They don't affect each other.

>>49581358
"Longbows can pierce plate armor" is a dumb meme and I blame history channel.

>>49583337
He was supposed to have armor and weapons given to him by Ares, wasn't he?
Cheating, desu senpai.

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>>49583812
Shouldn't we blame the British for overhyping it as their national weapon, effectively making it the katana of the occident?

>>49583812
Archaeological evidence shows they did. Arrows clean through armour, thigh, back of armour, horse barding, and into horse.
So does the written accounts of the battle of Agincourt.

Longbows were fucking powerful. Archaeological evidence of career archers showed that they were immensely strong, with the bows having upwards of 100lb pulls.

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>>49583358

>>49583995
Armor? Certainly, especially the lower grade armor. Full plate? Dubious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1WZLVZYBwQ

If you want a tl;dr: People wouldn't have worn armor past the lifespan of the longbow if the longbow made it obsolete.

>So does the written accounts of the battle of Agincourt.
Don't those also specify the exceptionally large number of knights that weren't killed by longbow fire?

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>>49581201
Hey this is some high rank gear.

>>49584052
Woosh.

>>49583995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej3qjUzUzQg

This is a 130 lb bow.

Now show me some of that ' archeological evidence'

For your textual evidence, Azincourt was won in the melee, the French were standing so close toghether that they could not fight, making them easy prey for the English knights and English archers (some armed with mallets) to capture and kill a lot of them in the melee.

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>>49581463
A-yep

> insides so knotted up in fear of the DM's sadistic streak that they redirect missiles like a level 16 monk

>>49581315
Is it true that Monkey King's staff can extend to any length he needs it to be for the task at hand?

>>49583940
It's the katana of the anglo. The only one I hear speak non stop about the fucking longbow are anglos.

>>49581278
He was just enough of a cunt to pass for one.
Hell, most character in Greek mythology were.
Except for Zeus, because there's being too much of a cunt.

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>>49584875
What do you think?

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>>49584634
>Tight, well-trained abs
Made for kissing! Why don't 3DPD bitches bother with significant exercise to build a solid, defined core?

>>49585011

>Abs
>Having fuck all to do with exercise and not being purely diet

If you can see abs, you are below your healthy threshold for bodyfat, broski.

They are not some kind of mystery flesh hidden away by doing a miraculous number of crunches, set ups, and push-ups. Literally everybody has them. You want to see them? You need to start dipping into the low body fat range to the point that you starting to risk damaging organs.

They look neat, but they are not a sign of good health at all and it is pretty stupid that we let ourselves on the whole get duped into thinking they are.

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>>49585060
>If you can see abs, you are below your healthy threshold for bodyfat
The more I learn about women, the angrier I get.

>>49585100

Don't worry, bro.

That body fat thing? It applies to men too.

>>49581201
>This is what happens when you don't take the proper precautions.
But none of the arrows are piercing her soft middle, so what you are really saying is that arrows swerve to hit bikini armour

>>49585060
Former skeleton speaking, I went down to 100 pounds as a 5'10" man(let) couple years ago and no point did I have clearly defined abs. Based on this personal experience I don't believe your hypothesis.

>>49581201
You become a god?

>>49585128
I think he's talking about women liking abs on men.

>>49583995
>Archaeological evidence of career archers showed that they were immensely strong, with the bows having upwards of 100lb pulls.
>100lb pulls
Son, the bare minimum would be an 140lbs pull. You'd get up to 200lbs.

>>49585141

Don't be a dipshit and take anything I say at face value.

Instead go read up on what people who know their shit are talking about.

It turns out they agree with me on this though.

>Skeleton with no clearly defined abs

That is because you didn't have stomach muscles, broski. You still need muscle for them to pop out and be clearly defined, but the fucked thing is that if you have muscles that would be able to pop out like that you are usually training pretty hard and the rest of your muscles are pretty toned as well. The diet you need from that training usually covers up those abs, so you must starve yourself to get rid of fat to make them pop.

OR

You could take steroids out the ass. The vast, vast majority of models with well-defined abs just take steroids.

>>49585060
>If you can see abs, you are below your healthy threshold for bodyfat, broski.
Not at all true for men, men can remain fully healthy down to about 3% bf, which is almost impossible for anyone but a dedicated roiding psycho or starving Namibian to reach. Really cut abs start showing up around 8% bf. So this is a lie.

For women however, it's true that anything below approx. 13% bf is incredibly unhealthy, causing hormonal disturbances and shit, and even dipping down to touch 13% is asking for trouble. Women should optimally not stray below 20% bf for best health. However they'd still need to get down to 8% to start showing abs. So yeah, a woman with visible abs is unwholesome as fuck, that's true.

>>49585147

Women, on the whole are stupid about damn near everything, I have to remind myself that people can't seem to remember this concept.

>>49585217

If you have under 8% body fat then you are underfat and it isn't healthy for you in the long run.

Although I regret talking about abs here because this is more of a /fit/ topic and the janitors have been on point lately.

If you want to discuss it more, head over to /fit/

>>49585247
>If you have under 8% body fat then you are underfat and it isn't healthy for you in the long run.
Again, not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage#Typical_body_fat_amounts Take a look at "essential fat" in the table and then read the paras underneath.

>If you want to discuss it more, head over to /fit/
Fair point tho

>>49585144
Demigod, then demon, then angel, then reincarnate as your archrival's daughter

>>49581201
The last time I got pierced by a volley of arrows, I raged for an entire day and wrecked half a city with my bare hands.
You'd think the Shivatense army would learn not to use that against us, but noooooo, we gotta keep being retarded and provoking the literal wall of muscle and fists with things like arrow volleys, all because the wizard accidentally opened a gate to Jigoku-Gaté in the Silver Emperor's throne room.

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>Post "armor"
>Derail into /fit/
Bizarre

>>49585677
The best course of action, given the thread

>>49585156
>Son, the bare minimum would be an 140lbs pull. You'd get up to 200lbs.

I said 'upwards of', so I'm still technically correct.
In my defence, I was playing shadowrun and didn't have the time for a proper wikidive.

>>49585811
>I said 'upwards of', so I'm still technically correct.
Time for today's language lesson, Anon: "upwards of X" doesn't mean "X and up", it means "approaching and perhaps as much as X".

So no, you weren't technically correct. Also, your nerd desperation is showing and it would've been more graceful to just accept your mistake, as a general tip on how social situations work.

>>49581201
>Soft
>Not putting all your shit on Fortitude or the system's equivalent from the start
How is it like being a puny mortal mush?

>>49586515
But anon, that's an immortal demigod

>>49585060
A man can show a worked six-pack as high as 14%BF and be perfectly healthy as low as 6% where lazy abs start showing even if you don't work out.

Women are shit.

>>49581201

Only on a critical.

>>49586545
I was talking about puny shit OP who needs to cover their soft, fat belly to feel secure.

>>49581848
Why WOULDN'T you wear armor if you invincible?

Deceive your enemies into just thinking you got real awesome armor, or if your invulnerability fades, you got protection still.

and >>49582897

>>49583251
oh.

>>49581980
>>49582751
Also, wasn't the fact that it was his heel also added in later? I mean Achilles was shot with a fucking poisoned arrow MADE BY THE GODS, I'm really not sure it would have mattered where the fuck it hit him.

>>49583777

this is so not true, fictional characters exist in the perception of the collective minds of everyone, if someone so drastically changes a legend that the majority's view of a character suffers, the character is ruined.

thankfully nobody talks about the new Atticus Finch after Mockingbird got a sequel decades later.

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>>49581201

Why are people so salty about this?

>>49581237
>ahfuck.jpg

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>>49581848
>not being a pim in a bitchin' plate
Do you even SWAG, faglord?

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>>49581201
>>49581398
The Son of Denethor would like to have a word with you.

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>>49586447
Hoo-hoo, boy, that irony.

>>49581201
i mark of 50 of my hitpoints and continue with the remaining 75 hitpoints as if nothing happened

>>49581278
you are only highlighting the deficiencies of rpg systems, anon.

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>>49589234
I suppose you're right. Getting shot is pretty bad for you, no matter what you're wearing.

>>49586447
I think you're confusing 'upwards of'and 'upwards to'.

>>49589792
Pretty sure Achilles is easy to build in most point-buy systems. You take the disadvantage "lethal weakness: heel", which gives you tons of points to spend on invulnerability and other combat stuff.

>>49584634
>not even functional as clothing, as she'd be showing her nips off all the time

Jesus christ.

>>49581475
And just like that, I'm hard.

Fuck you, anon. I wish I could cuck you to death. TO DEATH.

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>>49589977
Oh please, you and I both know real women would wear "clothes" twice as stupid if they could get away with it.

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>>49585060
>If you can see abs, you are below your healthy threshold for bodyfat, broski.
>4 posts, none of them refuting this
>muh misogyny
What the fucking fuck is wrong with you people? Have you seriously never encountered a fit woman?

My abs were visible when I was at 17% bodyfat (17% may sound high, but I'm female, in case me sperging out about this topic didn't make it painfully obvious).

>>49585187
>The vast, vast majority of models with well-defined abs just take steroids.
Oh, just fuck right off.

>>49590133
>Have you seriously never encountered a fit woman?
Women with three nipples are more common than women that actually bother exercising past just enough cardio to not look like whales. So no, I've never met a fit woman, and odds are I never will.

>>49581201
Jokes on you, my cockring of protection +10 means I have more armor than a cleric in fullplate sucking the pope's dick. Those arrows bounce off my bronze oiled body as I flex.

>>49583251
>>49583337
>>49581992

Everyone shrieking about the Iliad and how they're so familiar with the Trojan Cycle would do well to reread their copies. A major reason everything is unclear is that many of the epics are lost. The Iliad ends at the funeral games of Hector. It makes oblique references to Achilles' death multiple times, but it's in the general sense of "better to burn out than fade away."

So no, Thetis and the hearthfire (or Styx) is not "fan-fiction," and it certainly isn't a Roman invention. We see reference to it in the 3rd century BC by Apollonios. Rather, the references in the Aeneid and other works are references to an already ancient mythological tradition. Vergil didn't wake up one day and say "hey, dipping babies is a neat idea"; most of his work, brilliant though it is, was an already existing concept to contemporaneous Romans.

>>49590150
What kind of shithole do you live in? Either you live in some kind of blackhole with nowhere to hike/swim, no sports teams of any kind and no colleges/universities or you never go outside.

>>49581448
She is literally a god at that point, I think.

>>49590218
>What kind of shithole do you live in?
A country that doesn't have the same college culture as America. Our universities have no sports teams. And for all your snarkiness, even in gyms I haven't seen fit women. This might be related to the entire cardio section being full of women but the weights only having one or two women there at a time. On a good day. Recently I dropped going to the gym in favor of going to the pool, and no fit women there either. Tell me, what place everyone goes to but I somehow didn't get the memo on do fit women gather?

>>49590241
I am not being snarky, its genuine astonishment that you could say something so bizarre.

Also I am not an American.

>>49590241
were the fuck do you live seriusly

>>49590241
>a country less fit and fatter than America
wat

tell me the name of this place so that i may never go there

>>49590241
Being fit =/= having big muscles

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>>49590132
Considering fashion shows, i'm inclined to believe it. Various red carpet stuff already has 'em wearing "clothing" that would malfunction if they so much as moved fast enough or wind happened

>>49581201
Yeah, nice example of an immortal bitch who doesn't bleed. She's a god. Who needs to dodge, catch, or deflect anything when you're a god?

>>49582802
>>49582822

Maybe she just didn't realize that she hadn't dipped his ankle.

>>49589871
It's his own damn fault. Begin an important Age ending quest to save Middle-Earth, allied with dwarves and elves, the quest of the Fellowship beginning in the halls of Elrond himself. Heavens forbid he not act like a proud Man and ask for some kickass mithril gear or some otherwise enchanted swag.

Really, Man's downfall truly is of his own making.

>>49590132
>>49584634
>>49589977
That's actually legit enough armor in nearly all D&D settings as long as any of the jewelry or clothing is sufficiently imbued with armor class enhancing enchantments. You could run around naked except for a magic ring if it pimped out your AC enough.

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>>49581315
>>49584875
I see you and raise you.

>>49591091

Or be a monk. Being monk is hard and painfeul but you get AC for that and monk unarmed strike. Where any bodypart can be use to attack. Any bodypart.

>>49584883
>It's the katana of the anglo.
Look, the Katana was tested and found good enough to be adopted in countries that weren't Japan. They were also traded as items of high value and coveted as bribes.

In comparison, English longbows basically were the Zerg Rush of their days - the main step to pulling it off is playing Zerg.

>>49588237
>thankfully nobody talks about the new Atticus Finch after Mockingbird got a sequel decades later.
This.
I can't even fucking read either of the books now, that's how goddamn mad I was.

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>>49591153
>Roll to dickslap the BBEG
>20 happens
>The BBEG ends up fellating you and suiciding afterwards

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>>49591171
>Look, the Katana was tested and found good enough to be adopted in countries that weren't Japan.
Except it was shit compared to contemporary Portuguese blades. Or Portuguese anything for that matter, which is why the Samurai quickly adopted Portuguese breastplates, European cavalry tactics and the arquebus. It was a good weapon for the time and place, and even then mostly a side-arm to the yari or yumi.

>In comparison, English longbows basically were the Zerg Rush of their days
Not really. It's a highly deadly ranged weapon against lesser armored targets, which in the Middle Ages was usually most of the enemy army. Once again: a good weapon for the time and place.

Both weapons were simply good, not the wunderwaffen their cultures make them out to be. They could win battles (like Crecy, NOT Agincourt) and they could lose battles (like Patay).

>>49581201
If you wanna be all hyper realistic and shit, then Women shouldn't br able to fight at all, and be relegated to Medic or Priestess positions. Or camp-whore positions, so probably doggy.
But this is a fucking fantasy rpg with Wizards and actual living Gods and real Magic where everything is decided by RNGesus.
Fagogot.

>>49591196
bringing us back to square one: we like all these things because they are cool, because we're here to roleplay fiction, and hyping things up to be cooler is basically the entire point of fantasy. unless you're playing an explicitly realistic setting, then why not pretend that we can have women fighting in loinclothes, longbows can shish kebab six dudes, or that katanas can melt steel beams or whatever?
it's pretend, have fun

>>49581848
His mother held him by his ankle when she dipped him in the river Styx. Hence thats the only part of his body that is not invincible.

>>49591196
Its silly to pretend the longbow did not significantly contribute to the victory at Agincourt.

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>>49581201
From a historical point of view people often took torso and head protection a lot more serious than limb protection.

If you imagine it as a flowchart it would be something like this.

1. Get a weapon

2. Get a shield (skip this step if your weapon requires two hands)

3. Get a helmet

4. Get some form of torso protection
4a. Get neck protection if this is not already protected by your helmet

5. Get protection for your hands and arms

6. Get protection for your legs

So you wouldn't get fucking shoulder protection or hand/wrist protection without something covering your torso. Looking at you >>49581201
>>49581358
>>49581398

>>49590718
>>49590132
You are legitimately retarded if you think the average woman wants to wear clothing that can't keep shit covered. Do you two not go outside and only imagine what it is that people actually wear. Do you think everyone wants to dress like a booth babe or super model 100% of the time?

>>49591382
Women who don't look like shit like to dress in stuff that accentuates their assets. I dunno what kind of sheltered christian commune you live in where this isn't true

>>49581201
NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD ARMOR ANON. YOU PRIVILEGED WHITE MALE FUCK!!!

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magic armor is expensive compared to normal armor

>>49591437
You do realise the 'average' woman is still covering up the majority of their body in day to day clothing right? Unless you live on a beach.

They 'accentuate their assets' by wearing form fitting clothes, not clothing that is barely there.

>>49591553
You're talking averages, i'm talking ideals

>>49591382
>Do you two not go outside and only imagine what it is that people actually wear.
I do, that's precisely why I say that many, if not most, women prefer impractical clothing. It's been like this since the dawn of time: the leisure class prefers impractical clothing precisely because it shows they can afford to wear the impractical. The only thing limiting most women is the weather, and even then nothing stops quite a few of them from wearing stupidly high heels.

Fantasy actually removes the limitation of weather because lol magic I can feel comfy in a thong in the middle of winter.

>>49581201
But anon im in a breast plate with a steal towersheild in front of me.

>>49584875
Any length and thickness yes, WuKong is broken as fuck.

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>>49589153
Took long enough...

>>49591767
Still makes more sense than speedforce

>>49585060
>hypertrophy somehow doesn't apply to abs

Lad, you're going to get muscle definition on any part of your physique with a low enough bodyfat %.

>>49590632
America isn't even in the top 5 any more.

>>49591280
Factors leading to English victory at Agincourt:
1. French retardation
> The English were retreating, the French had cut them off, and all the French had to do to defeat the English and capture their King was wait, there was no forage available and the English were down to two days supplies.
2. Terrain
> The English were camped at the crest of a ridge with muddy fields between them and the French, the French attacked by leaving their own high ground, crossing a stream, and trying to climb these slopes in the aftermath of a rain storm. Naturally they lead with horse instead of infantry, so all the turf was broken by the time the body of the army entered the fray, and the mud was hip deep.
3. French pride
> The French attacked instead of waiting a week for the English to starve because they wanted to save money on their mercenary contact with Italian mercenaries who were supplying both the heart of the French infantry and the majority of their ranged fighters in the form of crossbowmen. But the French cavalry lead the battle because they wanted to prove they had superior courage to the mercenaries.
4. English field works.
The leading edge of the French attack was halted by the field fortifications that the English had prepared, and was pushed back into the mud and main body of the army by a counter attack by the English knights.
5. English discipline
> The English did not pursue the French into the mud field they had created until the French had finished exhausting themselves with several attempts to force an attack. Then they entered the field killing and capturing disabled Frenchmen too exhausted to resist.
6. You could maybe put the longbow here
>but I've got a strong suspicion that any ranged weapon would do.

>>49591767
Of course given that includes a vampire, a solar power harnessing alien with enhanced durability, and...not sure who that third one is. Madelyne Pryor the Goblin Queen?

>>49591196
You didn't understand the argument.

China was perfectly capable of making their own swords in exactly the same techniques even. And they recieved plenty of other valuable and rare stuff from all over the world with the seal trade, yet they still adapted the Katana to a certain extend and made copies of it for their own use.
The weapon clearly had an intrinsic value that was completely seperate from the institutions that produced it, to the point where the pattern itself found more users.

Meanwhile, the "english" selfbow worked on the battlefield because the Plantagenets had centalized political contol on the island well enough for the next dynasty to spam archers like the Zergs spam Zerglings. To anyone who didn't have the institutions that allowed them to spam archers, it was just some type of selfbow that did whatever any other similar wooden stick could do.

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>>49581201
>Implying my soft middle isn't a proper precaution itself

>>49590206
Fair, but we at least agree that it's correct to call the Aeneid fan-fiction, right?

>>49592234
Don't sumo wrestlers die early due to their shitty body conditions?

>>49592430
The Aeneid reads as very political compared to the Iliad. Probably because it was. It isn't "fan-fiction", though.

>>49591578
>my ideal woman runs around dressed like a total slut
and you wonder why you have no gf

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>>49594533
I'm alone because i hate people. What's this gotta do with anything?

>>49594564
>I'm alone because i hate people
>implying it's not the other way around

>>49594601
It really isn't since people like me. I don't like them back

>>49581201
>all arrow hit the armor

Looks like that armor is perfectly designed.

>>49594629
Really I think the bigger issue here is that it's more clothing than armor in the first place

>>49592705
We die early due to our insane, highly demanding daily routines. 10,000 calorie diet with 12 hours of cardio, endurance and weight training every single day. A career sumo can easily expect to see 20 years of his life taken away due to how intense this sport is.

>>49594723
All that just to rub bellies with another bloke. This makes turkish oil wrestling look straight

>>49594723
>We
So you're a Sumo? What led you down this career path, despite knowing the risks?

>>49594833
Personal fulfillment. I do Sumo, Highlander games, the Ironman, a few different strongman games. It's just to prove to myself that a keen body and mind can overcome any obstacle. Call it a journey of enlightenment and honor, with a dash of loving the idea of throwing people around for a living.

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>>49594749
>This makes turkish oil wrestling look straight
Nig, Turkish Oil Wrestling is on a completely different plane of helluva erotic.

Sumo you watch to see two fat men slap each other for a while before one of them is launched at a bunch of small asians, but Turkish Oil wrestling you watch for the beefcake.

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>>49591222
Or commanding an army in the name of god.

>>49594899
>Highlander games

The fact that you get the names wrong imply you're a liar.
Also, sumo is a lifestyle and not a sport.

>>49592705
Good sumo wrestlers are actually extremely strong and tough. The majority of their body fat is essentially a comparatively thing layer of padding over a frame of solid muscle and sinew.

>>49585187
>>49585060
>You will never be this jealous of people with defined abs.

>>49581237

Not

>>anadventurerlikeyou.jpg

for shame.

>>49591222
I think it's less about looking realistic, and more that armor like in op's pic just kind of looks like shit.
>>49581358's bikini armor is pretty fucking dope though, that's what skimpy armor should look like.

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>>49585217
>>49585219
>>49585100
>>49585128
>>49585247
>>49585290
Sometimes I forget that fitness is a foreign subject to most people. So far, the only person talking about this that doesn't sound like a complete retard is >>49590133. All the rest of you clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>>49585060
>>49585187
You especially are dangerously retarded. The way you write you sound like one of those people that writes the Real Life sections on TvTropes.

t. I'm a swimming coach

>>49597476
>My job relies on body shame, people pay me to be the socially accepted shape, I make most of my money on the insecurity of others
>So you should trust me when I say fatties are disgusting
Yeah, no.

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>>49597533
My job is based around performance. Aesthetics play zero role in swimming. As long as my kids get faster, then I get to keep my job.
There are plenty of great swimmers out there that don't have an 8 pack or whatever, but having visible abs isn't a sign of being unhealthy.

>>49597651
>I only teach kids
>I never take on clients looking to get "healthy"
Bullshit.
You just so happen to voluntarily teach at the lowest possible yet most noble tier?
I'm sure.

>>49597732
What am I even saying. The guy probably just watches kids swimming and calls himself a "coach". I forgot where I was for a second...

>>49597732
It also happens to be the most common tier of instruction, so yeah, most people that are employed in coaching are working with kids

>>49597533
>My job relies on body shame
>>>/tumblr/

>>49597784
Yeah, sure. I bet you never body shame the fat kids either. God what a boring lie.

>>49597791
>Body Shaming doesn't exist on a massive scale to force consumption
I miss being so innocent.

>>49597829
It is, but it's used to sell fad diets or pills to insecure women.

Swimming is one of the best ways to properly lose weight. And it's good for you.

Also I wanna throw in my two cents and say that abs are almost entirely dependent on bodyfat percentage. BF% is dictated by diet. You can be a skeleton and still be 20%bf.

Abs usually appear between 12-15% for men and 15%-17% for women, something like that.

>>49597910
You really think people don't capitalise on the insecurity those campaigns indoctrinate...?

>>49596670

That's not how you spell "being a figurehead that ultimately does little to nothing."

>>49582751
He'd have died. Being fully submerged into that river kills you.

Ostensibly, this includes submerging everything but, say, his left ankle first, and then everything but his right wrist second, because by that point every part of him has been under the surface of the Styx at some point.

>>49581201
Well yeah, you don't have to tell me that man.

I'm running Rune Quest; one of my players, who war wearing a maille shirt and a bronze cap got stabbed in his unarmoured leg by a Broo last session; the wound was immediately incapacitating and he would have bled out were it not cauterized with the utilitarian use of a magically flaming sword and a lucky first aid roll.

He spent most of the fight on the floor clutching his thigh and cursing.

>>49597829
>Body Shaming
The fuck does that even mean? Being overweight or obese is objectively detrimental to your health and objectively ugly (unless you have some crazy fetish but there's a fetish for fucking everything nowadays, even amputees and burn victims). Helping people improve their bodies should be considered an admirable goal, not fucking "body shaming".

Holy shit, the tumblr invasion of /tg/ is real. I thought it was just /pol/ talking but it's actually real.

>>49592430

Insomuch as all myths, literally all, are fanfiction? That's the entire point of myths. I don't want to re-use literally, but it's the correct word.

>>49598171

There's a much broader range of 'healthy weight' than most /fit/izens want to admit, which is (at least rationally) the point of contention. There's a lot of extremists of different stripes screaming on the edge of the conversation, but the non-crazy 'opposing' point of view is that many fitness-minded people have an obsessively narrow definition of 'healthy' that is frequently wildly inaccurate.

I know a guy who works out, swimming and weight, three nights a week pretty intensively and who eats healthily who would probably be considered 'fat' by the vast majority of the people in this thread. He is in great shape, objectively.

The point being made is that there is an unrealistic standard of 'healthy', and 'has visibly defined abs' is a part of that.

Obviously there are idiots on both sides, but this is the internet. Fuck do you expect.

>>49598326
>I know a guy who works out, swimming and weight, three nights a week pretty intensively and who eats healthily who would probably be considered 'fat' by the vast majority of the people in this thread. He is in great shape, objectively.
Unless he has some thyroid disorder, he's probably not eating as healthy as you think tumblr.

>>49582751

The fuck are you guys on about. Achilles father happened upon his mother submerging him the in the river and though she was trying to kill him.

His older brother was fully submerged and was completely invulnerable.

>>49598376
>I know this person I've never met better than you, a friend of his and I know he's a fatty bumbalatty cake worrier.
>But there's no such thing as fat shaming
Seems reasonable.

>>49598376

I live with him, so unless he's secretly hiding bags of potato chips in his room and stuffing his cheeks in the morning, that's... unlikely.

>>49597975
She galvanised the Dauphin's cause and oversaw the first notable French victory since the disaster at Agincourt.

She didn't personally kill the English, no, but given her side had straight up been forced to sign away the kingdom a decade ago (which was prevented by sheer good/bad luck, depending on your side of the Channel) she definitely helped.

>>49581201
just play it off as enchanted armor or don't include it at all

4chan Pass user since October 2016.

>Having a six-pack mean you're unhealthy
>Body shaming is a real thing
>The longbow didn't significantly contribute to the victory at Agincourt
>Fit women are rarer than three nippled ones
I don't think I've ever seen this much stupidity on tg before

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Hiro, what the fuck?

>>49596670
>implying she wasn't actually the third position

>>49600338
wtf?

>>49599231

It's all over, hiroshima finally killed 4chan.

>>49592100
Yep

>>49582751
The Phone rang.

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>>49597533
>>49597829
>>49598326
Is this /tg/ or a tumblrblog

>>49598326
>three nights a week pretty intensively and who eats healthily who would probably be considered 'fat' by the vast majority of the people in this thread.
It's generally not a good idea to assume what people think.
particularly when you've assumed everyone to be pure /fit/izen.
Are boogie and up.
Are we talking Beergut.
What are we dealing with here?
And how does this size category demonstrate a predilection towards "body shameing"
TL:DR EXPLAIN FAGGOT

>>49598171
>Holy shit, the tumblr invasion of /tg/ is real. I thought it was just /pol/ talking but it's actually real.
Dude this shit has been creepin' in for awhile.

>>49599231
Get a load of this normie cuck

>>49591362
>1. Get a weapon

>2. Get a shield (skip this step if your weapon requires two hands)

And this is how I you show your complete ignorance of what you are talking about. Opinion discarded.

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>>49603298
Yes I was wrong, a cannon should occupy the top spot.

>>49591077
>Man's downfall
>Age-ending quest
You realize the age that followed it was the Age of Men, right?

>>49598106
I love running lose-a-limb quest.

>>49602300

>/tg/ or a tumblrblog

Like there's a difference these days

>>49589872
I have a similar rage for "all but". I know it means "almost" but logically it means "not".

"The man was all but dead"... cool, so he's every state that isn't dead. He's vivacious. He's energized. He's dancing a fucking jig. He's NOT DEAD.

Bleh.

>>49591222
Heheh. That's exactly it. SJWs rage that chainmail bikinis aren't realistic, and in the same breath use the fantasy setting as an argument for women in every echelon of society, going toe to toe with men physically and not being constrained to any kind of gender role.

Here is my cake, which I have just eaten and which was delicious.

>>49598427
>there's no such thing as fat shaming
There's and for good reason, fatties are disgusting and no amount of rationalization will change that.

>>49581315
Sun Wukong was not a xia.

>>49608696
I'm not a SJW and I still don't like chainmail bikini because I simply don't play that kind of game or like that kind of fantasy

Let's take, say, Tolkien. Magic and gods exist. Does this mean chainmail bikini must be possible? No, because within the setting even the most magical of armor is still just very good armor that can only protect the parts it actually covers. There's the Dragonhelm of Dor-Lomin that supposedly doesn't let the wearer be injured while using it, but that was made by a legendary dwarven blacksmith on the first age and like most other legendary items on the setting is an irrepeatable miracle, not to mention it's not even known if it actually works. Could the Valar or Eru Iluvatar come down and make your chainmail bikini actually protective? Not even the Valar can match the greatest creations of the lesser races, and the omnipotent creator of the universe coming out of his timeless abode beyond the world to bless your chainmail bikini is dumb

"IT'S FANTASY" doesn't mean anything goes

>>49599231
Hiro was a mistake

>>49609181
Honestly, it's just a difference in style. More grounded fantasy is going to have functional armor, restrained magic and a more historically authentic feeling.

Sword sorcery style is going to go all out with chainmail bikinis, bodybuilder barbarians and so on.

>>49608568
Every state except dead also includes bleeding out, mangled, deathly ill, crippled, choking and a host of other really shit conditions.

In fact, given that perfectly fine is a small range of potential human states and decidedly not alright is a much larger range, occupying a superposition of all not-dead states still makes you average out to almost dead, assuming equal weighting.

>>49591382
Where the fuck do you live that miniskirts and tube tops aren't a daily sight whenever the weather permits?

Even women who cover their skin still dress to show off, wearing pants with no pockets so that they can hug their hips stupidly tight and not look 'lumpy'.

You likely don't own a single pair of pants that is as tight as what the average woman wears every day.