"I'm a dead guy, made from the bones of a hundred dead

>Favorite Avatar Model
I don't play guild, but I kind of like the Hoffman avatar. Something about being whisked away by your creation that's very Iron Giant.

>LE Model Suggestions
I'm terrible at naming Miss or Sir models, but I had this idea of a crazy cat lady Sebastian or Feline Remains

>What crew should get the next nightmare kit and why should it be yours?
Nightmare Viktorias, because it'd be either a different visual aesthetic (grunge, Korean pop, or Classical Instruments with women in powdered wigs...and the piano of conflict) or go gender bender and make the Pillar Men

>Favorite Avatar Model
Lucius, 1st edition better than 1

>>49518457
*better than second*

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>>49517905
So like necromorph from dead space.

>Favorite avatar model?
Avatar Nico and his zombie palanquin. Dude's a baller.

>LE model suggestions (funny ideas for the next limited edition model)
A LE Judge named Miss Trial just seems so obvious, but I'd go for an LE Lynch named Miss Stakes too. But my worst idea by far is an Asian themed Forgotten Marshal named Miss Ing, Presumed Dead.

>What crew should get the next nightmare kit and why should it be yours?
The Nightmare Lucius box with all his guild models outed as mimics isn't really an original idea, but it's still really cool.

A Nightmare Seamus that came with an alternative, less undead-hooker-y, option for belles would also be nice. I'm not sure what theme you'd go with, though. Maybe do an English aristocratic look with Seamus in wig as ridiculous as his hat, fox hunting attire with an oversized rifle, and some undead butlers and manservants.

Would-be Henchman here. Is there much more to it than making sure there's an event every month and being willing to run a demo if someone asks?

>Favorite avatar model?
Just started out. Anyplace I can see all the avatar models?

>LE model suggestions (funny ideas for the next limited edition model)
Ophelia and Trixiebelle riding a boar, guns in one and mugs in the other hand.

>What crew should get the next nightmare kit and why should it be yours?
I can't answer that yet...

>>49519537
>Ophelia and Trixiebelle riding a boar, guns in one and mugs in the other hand.
What would THAT count as?

>>49519554
To me. Everything.

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>>49519537
I just do an image search for "Malifaux Avatar" and most of the pics that come up are what your looking for.

>>49519554
I imagine a warping or Ophelia's avatar.

>>49518321
>I had this idea of a crazy cat lady Sebastian or Feline Remains

This needs to happen

>>49519870
It would go well with Dr. Dufresne

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As far as alternate models and the like I'm like to see a Raethford box. It can have his scenario adding to it including a Trough the Breach adventure and his model can have a 'counts as Rasputina' card in addition to his scenario card. Definitely have some twisted looking Ice Gamin and he likes the Ice Golem. Not sure what else to throw in there, Maybe an alternate Ice Dancer and December Acolyte, just one of each to round it out.

>>49519471
Ask Wyrd.
I assume they'd tell you.
I think you need a home store too.

>>49520733
Hooooly shit, he's a beast.
It would be pretty cool to have a model for him, yeah.
Or have him as a 13ss Henchman, maybe?
He'd be a little less horrifying without the guaranteed 3rd AP to Slow>Paralyze>Kill a model in a single turn.

The summoning is very expensive and not fantastically consistently useful unless he's burning through hundreds of stones, which is again balanced if he's not a Master and is competing with the Master for stones and high cards.

Aaaand holy shit he starts with Armour +5 how did I miss that.

15ss cost?

He'd be nobbed against Armour ignorers and suit-removers.
Well, not-as-good. Still deleting models left and right.

>>49519471
Henchman here. That's about it. Report your events and demos, acquire soul stones. You don't even need to do one every month. Once every 3 is all that's required.

>>49517905
>LE model suggestions (funny ideas for the next limited edition model)
Do we have a Miss Andry yet?
We could have a alt. female Seamus with a bunch of scantily clad undead male hookers.

>>49522011
This or Chippendale zombies.

>>49522098
>This or Chippendale zombies.
I can dig it. Gotta justify those 8 wounds and hard to kill. lol

Also Seamus would be cute as a girl. Sort of the crazy tsundre girl taken to 11. And cute freckles.

I haven't played since 1E. I have an unused metal Lord Chompy Bits, although he came with just the shoulder Dreamer, but without regular standing Dreamer on base.

Did I just have bad luck or was it intended?

Also, what do I need to run him, aside from regular plastic starter box.

>>49522098
>Chippendale zombies.
That would be hysterical.

>>49522427
I really wish I had gotten on those TTB kit belle proxies I was planning on, "Rotten Beaus".

>>49522011
What would Madame Sybelle be?

>>49522504
Obviously an overweight zombie pimp, instead of an overweight zombie madam.

>>49522161
You'll need a separate Dreamer.

The basics for Dreamer are his summons: Daydreams, Alps, and Coppelius are in the box. Stitched Together, Insidious Madness, Lelu and Lilitu you'll get separately. You can summon Teddy but you'll need Tannen to make it work.

Beyond that, Neverborn staples like Doppelganger and Waldgeists are solid. Widow Weaver, Kade, Hooded Rider/Nekima, Emissary, Beckoners are all good options.

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A bit of progress done.

Becoming a henchman souds interesting. There doesn't seem to be much of a community yet in my area. My LGS even took Malifaux out of the store...
Might be interesting to try and expand upon it, but on the other hand...so much work...

What are the staples for the outcasts?
I'm going to dive in and either get the von schill, Victorias or the Tara box.
Besides glue, a knife, clippers and a ruler what else would I need?

>>49523044
>Tannen
How does he summon Teddy?

>>49523088
Vanessa, lazarus, and Aionus are the three I constantly see above what's in those boxes. Tara Box is great, because Void Wretches are A+ scheme runners, especially with Aionus to give them fast. Von Schill box is solid - you'll want the Specialist and the Librarian eventually, and the man himself isn't bad. Viks get you Taelor, who is worth the price of admission alone, but not much else unless you're specifically running the Sisterhood.
>>49523117
Tannen can give you +2 to all flipped (not cheated) Masks, in return for -2 to all flipped (not cheated) Tomes.

>>49519471
>>49521327
You need to know the rules well enough to not inadvertently create a homebrew league when players need rulings. And that's not as easy as it sounds if you've interacted with half of those henchmen fucks.

>>49523136
Wait, not cheated? Are you sure? It says flipped or played. Playing a card is the same as cheating one in, right?

>>49523078
Looks pretty good. I don't think I like the stubble though.

>>49523136
>Tannen can give you +2 to all flipped (not cheated) Masks, in return for -2 to all flipped (not cheated) Tomes.
The wording is flipped or played, so cheated cards count. The card actually gas to have a mask though, so the RJ doesn't count, and masks added by soul stone usage don't count.

>>49523211
I-It's part of the model. There's a horn growing out from his shoulder pushing against the fabric.
Yes.

>>49523241
That's what I was getting confused by, thank you. I knew there was some weirdness, and I thought it was 'not cheated' for some reason.

>>49523137
That sounds like it warrants a story time.

Henchmen fucks? I'll suggest that for the next run of our shirts.

>>49523241
Correct that spending a soul stone doesn't trigger leave it to luck but the red joker can if you choose masks as the wild suit. The RJ counts as whichever suit you choose. It should be in the FAQ which I can't check now.

Which masters are consideres bad/hard choinek for new players?

>>49524029
You are correct, the FAQ states that the suit chosen is considered to be printed on the red joker.

>>49524068
From a financial point of view any summoner.
Just off the top of my head these masters are probably the most beginner unfriendly; Lucius, Jack Daw, Shenlong, Leviticus.

>>49517905
Desolation engine should really have looked closer to the simulacrum than a flesh golem. Both versions are pretty bad and look nothing like a bunch of fused abominable humans.

>>49524068
Lady Justice gets a bad rep as well as Mah.

>>49524340
I agree. They aren't bad models, they just don't look like what you'd think.

>>49524560
Lady J is okay.
Mah is under-powered though.

Is Rogue Necromancy any good?

>>49525661
Yes. Especially if you can make it for free from Spare Parts.

>>49525661
It's pretty thoroughly okay.

>>49525686
Well I don't play McMourning, wondering if it's worth taking in a list for Seamus or Nico. I think I'd rather just take an Emissary every time though.

>>49525700
He's not bad with Seamus, but Yin is also important to him and they're both expensive. Nico would much rather have the emissary, but with his minion summoning pool you can kind of get away with a more elite core. If you want to go the Spare Parts route, you only really want to do it on non-corpse users, so McMourning, Seamus, and Molly mostly.

>>49525726
>but with his minion summoning pool you can kind of get away with a more elite core.
That's why I try to squeeze in Toshiro or even Izamu.

>>49525726
Thanks.

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>>49517905

What goes well with Seamus? Stuff that triggers Wp duels, so Yin and Hanged, but how else to fill out his crew?

New scenarios for Divergent Paths are up. I will win something for Outcasts! Just wondering who's first!

>>49526138
belles and dead doxies

Anyone mind posting their rooster riders? I'm trying to work on mine right now but chickens are so fucking colorful and holy fuck I thought it would be easier to paint a rooster. Want to see what you guys have done for them.

>>49526138
The crew I run with Seamus is

Seamus -- 4ss
+Corpse Bloat - 2ss
+Red Chapel Killer - 1ss
+Sinister Reputation - 1ss
Copycat Killer - 3ss
Datsue Ba - 8ss
+Spirit Beacon - 1ss
+Spirit Whispers - 1ss
Nurse - 5ss
Rotten Belle - 5ss
Rotten Belle - 5ss
The Hanged - 9ss
Yin The Penangalan - 8ss

The idea behind the list is that people are going to fail WP duels and corpse bloat hurts like a sack of hammers. Seamus can also run around doing his Teleport focus shoot funtimes because of the Seishin that you can put as a wall in front of him to block LOS.

>>49526679
I'll be honest I went with a Bluish black for mine. I just didn't think I could do mottled well.

>>49526265
They can't say I didn't do my job last week, won a game for the the child and the Man, for outcasts. I hope we can pull it together.

Speaking of outcasts though, and Freikorps specifically, I decided after chatting with a bunch of my local players yesterday and Pitching them the idea (and hearing no complaints) that I would be making a Brotherhood of Steel Freikorp crew. I'm actually really looking forward to putting it together and painting it all up.

>>49527150
I won for trickster and child. And let's make it happen. Because Leveticus needs another waif. Also brotherhood of steel freikorp sounds amazing! I tried my hands at a power rangers set up, but it only partially worked.

>>49527217
I'll be honest I saw that Molly had a storyline for the child and I really want to do that one. But I'm gonna stick with Outcasts. I think Jack Daw could be good for the Man and the Woman, but I don't know about the child. I may go with misaki and Do my best to kill everything before the end of the game so that I can just pick them up at my leisure. Or maybe I should go with something like Laz and Rusty to get a bunch of grenades out.

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>>49527217
also on the note of the BoS Freikorps. The only ones I'm really having trouble with coming up with something for are Von Schill (who I think I'm just going to do up in something like the pristine T-51b armor) and the strong arm suit Who I need to hunt down a powerfist for.

Trappers are going to be Regular BoS with either an elongated laser rifle, or a regular sniper rifle, Librarians are going to be in The "ant armor" (X-01 w/ a plasma gun), and the specialist is going to be one of the Heavy duty dudes with a Gatling laser.
Got an eyebot for the steam trunk, and I've got a mr. Gutsy and a robotron to run as some extra stuff (maybe Mr. gutsy as Laz?)

>>49527297
Honestly, I was tempted to. But I'm stayin' loyal! gotta get the Scrip, Gotta get the stones!
>>49527401
Very nice! I'll be keepign an eye out.

>>49527034
Thanks bro

>>49527536
Np, That list made one of my friends legit rage. It's solid.

>>49527150
I've been trying a bluish black for mine but the fucking sheen on these birds is hard to replicate. Been washing down a metalic blue I have.

>>49527548
Looks good, and since I have Kirai I pretty much have everything to run it. Didn't think of using Datsue Ba and Senshins with Seamus before.

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>>49527598
All I did was airbrush Coal black and go over it with a nuln oil wash.

>>49528536
Oh anon be a dear and tell me where you got those plants from please.

>>49528768
Not the same anon but the question has come up before, most of them are aquarium plants bought on sale for cheap and cut up. The corn stalks are model train plants/scenery.

you can find some of the train stuff here: http://www.hobbylinc.com/cgi-bin/s8.cgi?cat_s=UPD&tag2_i=1396

>>49528925
>water lily set
>spend an hour scuplting shitty water lilly's
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Fuck I could have just bought them

>>49528768
In addition to aquarium plants there are also a bunch of fake plants from Micheal's that have been cut up and put on there.
>>49528925
Thank you other anon. Speaking of JTT plants though I just picked up some more dried corn and some pumpkins for a "abandoned farm" that I'm gonna be putting together.
>>49528996
Sucks to suck

So what is a good all rounder 50ss jack daw crew?

So, we had a bit of an odd situation tonight. The Claw, the Titania minion, wound up unbiuried on top of a building due to Tara shenanigans. A Void Wretch was down on the ground beneath it, and the Claw walked to the edge of the roof and used Challenge of Winter to try to push it into base contact. The Void Wretch normally would've stopped at the base of the wall, because it was Impassible, but being Incorporeal it ignored that. So...Where does it stop? Does it "push" upwards even though the walls aren't climbable?

>>49529478
"The pushed model cannot pass through impassable objects (such as other models, or walls) or climb."
page 43 of the big rulebook.
I'd guess it would still push towards the claw and probably be under it inside the building.

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I took a picture of the stuff I painted over the weekend but lighting fucked me.
Does anyone know the release date for the Arcane Emissary and the Wind Gamin? Wyrd site didn't say and Miniature Market just says pre-order.

>>49529478
>>49529621
I would say that that because of incorporeal the Wretch does not need to climb to reach the top of the building, so it would end up at the top in base contact with The Claw.

Malifaux is a top down game and there is nothing in pushes that completely eliminates changing elevation, for example being pushed 'up' a hill that is not impassable.

>>49529883
Nicely done anon! Those are some fabulous minis!

Dreamer
Ramos
Lilith
Seamus

I have narrowed it down to one of those 4. Can someone with experience with them give me a brief overview of these? Perhaps with some hints how to expand from the box set of each?

>>49530905
Thanks man.

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>>49530980
>>49530905
I was also working on this, but it's absolutely a WIP.

>>49530940
>Dreamer
Insidious madness, stitched together, widow weaver, more alps, lelu & lilitu, teddy, doppelgänger.
>Lilith
Almost anything in neverborn, Lilith is the good all rounder of her faction, if you want a thematic grow list though....
Young/mature nephilim, doppelgänger, primordial magic, lilitu, nekima, black blood shaman if you are feeling froggy.
> Ramos
Mech rider, and more spiders. Large arachnids are good but pretty much any construct works well with him.
>Seamus
Most people will tell you doxies are the next purchase, but I run Seamus kind of differently (I posted my list earlier in the thread) so I'm just gonna go over some good stuff to have in ressers in general then the extras I got for Seamus.
Staples: nurses, 1 hanged (I would probably not have 2 if the box didn't come with 2), seishin (kirai, datsuba, and Anna Lovelace all summon them they are good to have), and the Seamus box set as it comes with 3 rotting belles and madam sybelle, the belles can make it into any list especially with a nurse to give them hallucinogens.
Seamus list: as I said earlier I play Seamus kind of differently, taking advantage of the fact that fail Wp duels heal him hence I take a hanged and corpse bloat. Stuff that isn't on the staples list are Datsuba, who I bring for summoning seishin and causing more horror and wp saves. And yin to hand out negative twists on Wp and just generally be a pain. Other than that I like to take a nurse, two rotting belles, and the copycat killer. The list is strong and once you have it figured out quite tough to play against in most strategies because Seamus chooses a section of the board and makes it a pain to go into.

>>49530940
>Dreamer
Summons and supports nightmares, can turn into Lord Chompy Bits to reposition or kill stuff. Add-ons: Lelu and Lilitu, insidious madness, stitched together, Teddy, widow weaver, doppelganger

>Ramos
Summons spiders to overwhelm enemies with numbers. OP as fuck. Add-ons: moar spiders, Johan, December Acolytes, mechanical rider and her summons (gamin)

>Lilith
High mobility, highly versatile, can murder people, reposition friends or enemies, debuff/debilitate enemies. Add-ons: Primordial Magic, doppelganger, Nekima, black blood shamans, young and mature Nephilim, Waldgeists, Graves, Lelu and Lilitu

>Seamus
Teleports around killing things with his hand cannon, summons Belles, can create a crazy horror abuse crew that can shut down whole crews. Add-ons: Doxies, Yin, Hanged, Emissary, Datsue-ba, Crooligans/Necropunks, dead rider

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KInda like this, but less shitty.
Trixiebelle gleefully wasting 'shine and bullets, while Ophelia just hangs in there.

> This was a bad idea.
> Getting motion sick.
> My head hurts.
> I wanna get off.

>>49533637
Proxy for the Emissary?

>Decided to grab Von Shill box
>go to LGS
>sold
>box that was catching dust for ages
damn my luck, i guess I'll have to either wait or just impulse-buy anything else just to start playing

I have the Tara box coming in the mail and I picked up some void wretches to practice painting while I wait. What should I get next? Does the Tara box come with dead of winter?

So. Shenlong.
What are the benefits of him lighting himself on fire?

>>49519471
Don't fuck up and over do Monthly events, and make sure to have a variety of events too.

>>49535695
Death Marshals, Hannah, Scion?

>>49536223
High River Style lets him do more damage based on his burning, increase hours duel totals, or pass the burning ofg.

>>49532635
>>49533404
Thanks guys.

>>49536661
Ah, I see. Thanks.

Also just had my first game with the starter set.
Only negative thing I can say right now, is that shuffeling the decks takes you a bit out of the game. But I guess later on that will be valuable time, spent thinking about the next few moves in a real game.

>>49512640
Question from last thread:

Can a buried model be sacrificed?
I can't tell by the big rule book since it just says being buried is removed from play (usually placed on stat card) and sacrificed is being removed from play but doesn't count as killed.

>>49537666
After reading the wind gamin thing from the wiki, it talks about them being sacrificed while they're buried.

Can someone give me some tips about gremlins crews? How do they play? What should I buy with each starter? I'm mostly interested in Brewmaster and Ophelia.

>>49537666
>>49537700

Yes, but you'll have to remember that most actions are going to require you to target the buried model. So while you can sacrifice it, you probably can't actually target it with the ability to cause it to sacrifice.
(A problem for all but a few models in the game)

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>>49537700
Never knew about that ability, thanks for the heads up. Hopefully it's a case of abilities overriding basic rules, but if not that's really disappointing.

>>49537995
It might be just because of that rule, though. I'm a newer player and don't know the rules very well.

>>49537995
I don't think there's anything in the rules that prohibits them being sacrificed. It just didn't normally happen, because only a limited number of models can effect buried models.

>>49537666
Sure, if there's an action or ability that says you can. Wind Gamin spring to mind.

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>>49538163
Maybe and probably is true, but...

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>>49538163
If that's the case there's a lot of text missing to easily allow that deduction from simply reading the core rules.

>>49538295
>>49538312
I think I see where you're getting hung up. The phrasing at the end of the first paragraph is only there to specify that, at the time the model is buried, it is removed from play but not via death or sacrifice. It doesn't prevent a model from being killed or sacrificed later, it just means that being buried does not also kill or sacrifice the model, as those are the "primary" ways a model is removed from play.

>>49538380
I mostly want more sacrifice text, I don't find removing from play a removed from play model intuitive or sensical.
It obviously can happen because Wind Gamin, but is that ability override or not?
Monkeys Paw (released in the same wave) sacrifices the model at the end of the turn and Horrible Luck states if it would be buried, sacrifice it. Maybe it's just for models like Bête, but Horrible Luck seems to not be completely in line with Gamin.

>>49537782
Gremlins are generally higher model count with a high risk/high reward style play. That said, each of their masters do things differently.

Brewy is more of a control type. Can be a bit weird for new players as he has a very unique style. Trixiebelle, Lenny, Burt are good inclusions for him.

Ophelia is more straightforward. She kills things dead. Lenny, Trixie, and Burt are useful here as well. Plus the usual gremlin staples of slop haulers and rooster riders.

>>49538312
>If that's the case there's a lot of text missing to easily allow that deduction from simply reading the core rules.
I don't think there is.
If the rules don't prohibit something, I would think it's allowed.

The rules seem pretty clear on what burying does, and it doesn't prohibit sacrificing.

>>49538470
I think they would never been better saying that buried models are"removed from the play area" since they aren't really out of the game.

>>49538494
Think of everything the rules don't prohibit. Simply because the core rules don't say I can't break all of my opponents miniatures and punch them in the face doesn't mean it's legal. Rules say what you can do and explain corner cases with prohibitions.
If it is easy for you to understand how RFG works and why, I'd like some assistance.

>>49538552
I don't quite understand your post, but the buried text states they are removed.

>>49537782
Gremlins focus a lot more on crew synergies. They are likely to use thier own wounds as an expressible resource. Which is counteracted by the fact they have access to the best healing in the game.

They are on average much cheaper then most crews. On top of that a lot of thier models have ways to generate additional ap, which means they have a much more quantity vs quality style of play.

Ophelia is a pretty straight forward damage dealer.
Brewmaster focuses on debuffing.

>>49538613
The rules also don't specify that Pedrita is allowed to shoot a bayou gremlin on Tuesday if the temperature is in the mid sixties with a slight breeze out if the southwest.

I'm not going to check the rulebook to make sure that it's okay.

>>49538856
Your example is covered under the combat rules, don't need to check for wind speed.

>>49538927
Double checked. Nothing allows you to make attacks on Tuesday. So the shot misses.

Two questions;

1; Can Aionus kill Leveticus while he's burried, or will leveticus just return to full wounds and stay buried?

2; I'm fighting Perdita over the Child (divergent paths), with colette, but I won't be able to win by simply covering the map with two layers of scheme markers.

What should I do? I'm thinking of;

Colette, practiced production, cabaret coreography (might replace with sieze the day), practiced production.

3 mecha-pigeons

1 killjoy with imbued protection and decoy

1 arcane emissary with illusive and killswitch

2 coryphée
-----

Kill-prompt and kill some more basically. I just need to get one more piece of fabric and then I can Run and Hide, so, technically, I don't need botha a butcher and a blender AND a rampageing bull, but still.

(For my arcanist crew, including mercs, I have; colette, cassy, angie, emissary, effigy, 2 coryphee, 2 ice dancers, 2 performers, 2 manequins, 3 pigeons, killjoy, and easy acess to Johan.).

>>49539250
Similar to how the rules specify when los is blocked or when shoot actions cannot be taken, Tuesday and weather data would also be mentioned. Since it is not, they are not relevant to determining factors unless specified by an action, ability, condition, etc.
I asked you for assistance in understanding your reasoning and you seem to be trying to argue against the nature of rules, saying they must specify every instance of what is legal (not illegal) instead of providing variables and a system of deducing what is legal. Sometimes, I just don't get people.

>>49539867
probably trolling. in the big book damage section it says "When a number of points of damage is taken by a model, it reduces its current Wounds by that amount. If the model is reduced to 0 or fewer Wounds it is immediately removed from the game as killed." so we have removed from the game as killed, buried, and sacrificed. we can attack and kill removed as buried models. don't think of 'removed as' like a zone cause it's a literal physical action.

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Guys.
I just threw away a possible 8-7 win, probable 7-7/8-8 draw.
Lost 7-8 because I fell asleep at the wheel and wandered off to kill something when I should have been VP denying.
I'm so pissed off guys.
Guys.
God damn it.

>>49539724
I also have 3 oxfordian mages.

>>49540177
Learn from your mistake, let the anger fuel you for the victories ahead.

Gonna start painting jack and his crew and I'm wondering if I should make them all ghostly or not. Ghostly would be faster, and I don't really have a scheme decided but more colors is usually better.

>>49529883
That's a fucking great pink dress.
Oxfordians look great too.
Fuck you.

>>49530991
>I was also working on this, but it's absolutely a WIP.
>WIP
>Better than my "pretty good tabletop"
Fuck you again, and you skills too.

>>49533637
That looks pretty fun.

>>49535659
What else is piqueing your interest?

>>49536331
>Don't fuck up and over do Monthly events
I was thinking it would be good to do a Henchman Hardcore (or smaller) micro-tourney on the off months.
Would be easy to demo with that too.

Would people play a 10/15ss, 3-card hand game?
Something with two or three models per player, a little like an Enforcer brawl but with more scope for model interactions?
Or would it be too small-scale to work properly?

>>49540473
I kind of like the idea of ghostly, but with normal clothes/ropes/etc.

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>>49540265
>let the anger fuel you

I won't be letting the anger fuel me.
I will remember the shame, as my opponent looked at me with this awful blend of confusion,disbelief and triumph as he tried to work out what my master plan was that .looked. like I was handing him the game, but would secretly win it.
But there was no master plan.
It just annoyed me that the little shit Incite'd me earlier so I wanted to twat the flaming fucker right in the mouth.
And then I lost.

>>49539724
>3 mecha-pigeons
Why?
You could get a Performer for that, or drop Killswitch and the Doves for a Trapper (From the shadows).
Also, if you're going that Beater-y, do you need Practiced Production?
If you can take killy schemes on the day, I'd do that.
Killy schemes, swap two Doves and Killswitch for a Performer.

In other news,holy shit is that list going to tear some faces off.

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got Nellie finished now, i'm not entirely sure what to do with the base though. I think i'll get some grass tufts or something just to add a bit of colour.
I don't know what to paint next; Cherri Bomb, a reporter or Perdita probably.

>>49540699
It's kinda one or the other with me. I'm not a huge fan of the ghost that carries around a fucking real electric chair with him. Maybe I'll just do the undead spirits up as ghosts, but that kinda begs the question what does Jack fall into?

>>49529883
Fantastic use of colors. The Oxfordians remind me of the Quest for Glory hero actually...maybe King Graham of Daventry, but I really love the work yo udid.

suggestions for a color scheme for my crossroads 7 I'm honestly stumped

>>49541712
Paint them like Kiss

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Is this a bad idea for Henchman Hardcore?

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>>49541785
And would this be a better one?

If I want a henchmen to lead my 50 point crew, can I? And do they still only have 2 ap?
Hannah looks super tight, but masters are wack.

>>49541831
No. Henchmen can only lead a Shootout or Dustup. At 41 or higher, it becomes a Scrap, which is Masters only.

>>49541852
Wow, that's lame.
Guess I'll just proxy her in other games.

>>49542115
You can still bring her in higher point games. She just doesn't count as leading the crew.

I'd be alright if an opponent wanted to run with a henchmen as a master.

>>49542197
Not to mention you can do that in Campaign games. Just never hire your master.

>>49540574
Thanks.
>>49540664
I actually kind of got frustrated and gave up working much more on Banasuva; I did fix the fire (I blanked on the basic fact that fires burn brighter in the middle) but overall I'm not very happy with the work, good enough for the tabletop, but not what I wanted since I love the Banasuva model so much. I'll seal it and post pictures tomorrow.

I ordered the Arcane Emissary and Wind Gamin today. Excited to get the murder bull. I was going to order Ice Dancers because I remember them being good, but I just completely forgot what they did so I ended up passing for now.

>>49541785
>>49541800
Yu doesn't bring enough for a HH. You'd be better off with Toshiro +2Gumo. Or maybe could swap the Jorogumo for 2 of the half-dozen 9 ss TT henchmen. Though Toshiro+Gumos should work quite well.

>>49543663
>Yu doesn't bring enough for a HH
Turf War is a hard strategy to manage when you only have 4 models and Yu and Graves keep hucking your model out of range.

>>49541831
>>49541852
You can lead them with a henchmen, it's just that they'd be horribly underpowered. But if you and your opponent don't mind you crippling yourself you're good to go. And you don't get extra AP.

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>>49543699
You got to learn something today! Good for you.

>>49543716
And if you and your opponents don't mind you can easily ignore that. There is zero advantage to be had in leading a crew with a henchmen when you can lead with a master, there's absolutely no reason you can't use a henchman if your opponent is okay with it.

>>49543758
If you and your opponents don't mind you can ignore any rule in the game. That doesn't mean it's how the game is written, and that's what was being asked. According to base Malifaux, you cannot. Saying you can change a rule is useless, since that's true of anything.

>>49543768
There's also story encounters that let you lead a 25 SS crew with a master. If he wants to lead with a henchmen and he's fine with putting himself at a handicap it's fine. There's literally nothing to gain from it.

>>49543823
Sure, but telling him that he can do it is not useful, considering that in 99% of games, it wouldn't be allowed. Not a matter of nothing to gain from it, a matter of that's not how Malifaux works.

>>49543831
>99%
Naw he's good for pretty much anything that isn't a tournament.
I'd be surprised if there are more then a handful of players as autismo as you anon.

I'd probably let him run the henchmen with an extra ap.

I grabbed the wild ones cause they looked cool, but as a learning crew they seem pretty complex. Is there like a basic list I could play a couple times which isn't complete garbage to learn all their interactions?

>>49544114
Weird to say, but I'd suggest getting the base McCabe box. It's still got the same leader, it has Sidir, who doesn't look awkward as fuck on that base, and it has Wastrels, which work better with Sidir and Dismounted McCabe, while Mounted Guard work better with Mounted McCabe. Also, combining the 2 boxes and buying upgrades gives you a solid 50ss list for later. For now, use the Wastrels instead of Guards and only 1-2 upgrades on each.

>>49544165
Aren't the models stat wise except for the wastrels/mounted guard identical though? He can just buy the wastrels separately. It's not as if he can hire Sidir and Luna as they have the rare 1 trait and would count as Iggy Pup and Cherri
Bomb.

>>49544228
Wastrels do not, as far as I am aware, have their own box. If they do, I'd recommend them - they make synergies much more obvious by basically always being the correct choice for the equipment upgrades.

>>49544242
Them not having boxes actually makes sense, seeing as how they designed the sprues for the older plastics. My mistake.

>>49543967
You are saying he can do something that is not allowed by the rules. Any rules can be houseruled/changed ect but that is not what people are here to talk about. People are here to talk about Malifaux not what some group decided the rules system should be. If you had stated that it was not allowed by rules but you could talk with your opponent that would make sense. Simply saying he can is wrong.

This is another anon not the previous one you replied to.

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>>49540878
That looks great braux.
I'd go for a little grass by the rock, but I don't think it's needed, per se.

>>49541753
Absolutely do this. Don't

>>49541831
>masters are wack.
How so?
Don'tlike any of the masters available to your faction, or the concept of masters in its entirety?

>>49542543
Post new Banasuva pics please.
It's a really coolmodel, I'm loving the variety of
paint schemes coming out.

From what I remember about Ice Dancers, they're probably not exactly necessary for many Arcanist crews - amazing scheme runners (but we already have a bunch of those) and highly-mobile early-game Ice Mirrors for Raspy.
The Ice Path(?) I remember hearing was probably too expensive to cast for what it does, and potentially just as inconvenient for you as the opponent.
Still handy for slow Rasputina (and others, I guess) crews to screen enemy models out of objective zones (Stashes,Turf Wars etc.) until the snowball rolls up the field.

>>49543967
To be fair to 'autismo anon', he's absolutely correct, and telling a new player otherwise (without specifically stating it would only be by agreement with the opponent) is unecessarily misleading.

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>>49544165
>>49544242
I thought Wastrels werebasically trash?
Are tehy good with McCabe's upgrades but otherwise trash, or am I misinformed?

Fuck Pandora. She's the most annoying master in the game. Fuck all who play her too. God damn.

>>49545774
Sounds like someone needs to git gud.

Seriously though if you are having problems with 'dora I would take a look at the crew you are bringing first, can you engage from range? Can you bring anything that gives [+] on Wp duels? Are you trying to go headlong into the meat grinder instead of focusing on schemes and strats?

Also wastrels are pretty good, I won't say they are the best but being able to get defensive for taking two walk actions is nothing to scoff at on a 4 stone model.

>>49545725
I don't even get masters, still reading a bunch of shit. Caught me cause she has the numbers under her price, seems pretty strong, but there's all the fucking rules where she could lead here, not there.
Like I said, Hannah is tight as fuck. She got that huge ass robot and books everywhere, then the glasses. Shed completely fuck somebody up and still look good. All the other mercenary boys are basic as hell.

>>49544114
Hounds, Austringers, and a big model like a Peacekeeper are a good start. Mounted Guards like models with Cg7, so Hunters, Executioners, Francisco, Grimwell, etc all benefit.

McCabe has a lot going on, but at its most basic you reactivate a minion every turn, pass out slow where you can, jeep that promises bubble where it needs to be, and toss upgrades situationally.

>>49546838
Well, she's a merc so you can always hire her. I'm not sure what you're saying.

>watching a game yesterday
>rooster rider charges one of the Ortegas

"the cock takes him from behind"
"I charge with the Judge to try and beat it off"
"the cock stands firm"

>>49544242
>Wastrels do not, as far as I am aware, have their own box

You could buy a Miss Anne Thrope individually, though.

Also, Hounds should probably be a priority before Wastrels.

>>49547161
>>49544242
>>49544228
Adding that while Wastrels have their uses I don't feel they are remotely necessary for McCabe, You might try to get one of the Miss Ann Thrope models.

>>49544114
Are you planning to go Guild or Ten Thunders? Ether way Guild Hounds are great for some cheap fodder and the obvious buff from Iggy Pup. For Thunders the Dawn Serpent is an amazing Minion to give reactivate to from the Badge of Speed upgrade. Then on the Guild side you have the new Witchling Thrall for a beefy minion to do the same, though for that one you'll need to get a proxy until the actual model comes out.

How am I to interpret the bushwhackers 'Lay of the land' ability?
They have cover as long as they are in cover. I guess...yeah that they sure do...

>>49548735
You usually only get cover from attacks with the gun icon. You now get cover from all attacks that don't have the slash icon. If an attack has no icon, you now get cover from it.

I picked up Jack Daw for the first time in about a year. I forgot how fun he is. Had a bit of a rough go against Hoffman and his constructs, though. What would you recommend to help deal with armor?

>>49547771
>while Wastrels have their uses I don't feel they are remotely necessary for McCabe,
McCabe is where they shine though, making the card cycling machines. Plus, outside of the pale rider, they're the deadliest with the glowing sabre, min damage 3 while cycling a card with every swing.

Gonna order some delicious green shortstacks tomorrow, so I got something to do next week.

What models should one consider to expand the Lady J and Sonnia boxes? Which totem for each?

I know Austeringers and Francisco are popular, but what other models are often used with both? Are Executioners any good (love the models)?

>>49550437
I don't know about lady J but Sonnia gets great use out of the Malifaux Child as far as totems go.

>>49550437
None for lady j
Malifaux child for Sonnia.
Both like the brutal effigy, lady j the emissary too.

Executioners are ok, but not great. At their price, you'll get better mileage out of the other guild beaters, unless you know you'll need to get around Df triggers.

>>49550437
Lady J doesn't really use s totem. Scales are a little pricey for a Wp buff and some situational card draw. Sonnia loves the malifaux child, though.

Executioners are a lot better with their freebie upgrade now. They tend to be overkill in a Lady J crew, though. McCabe, McMourning, Nellie, and Lucius get more use of of them since they can move the fatty around.

Brutal Effigy and Emissary would be good inclusions for both of them.

>>49550619
>>49550642
>>49550677
Thanks. Why is the Child so good with Sonnia though?

So aside from Executioners, what are the good Guild beaters? Does everyone just take the Emissary?

>>49550706
>Thanks. Why is the Child so good with Sonnia though?
Double Flame Wall

>So aside from Executioners, what are the good Guild beaters? Does everyone just take the Emissary?
Peacekeeper
Frank
The Judge

>>49550706
The child can copy her actions, namely flame wall. The only thing better than dropping 2 50mm pieces of impassable terrain is dropping 4

Guild beaters include, but are not limited too: Francisco, The Judge, Grimwell, Peacekeeper, Pale Rider, and Phiona. The Emissary is pretty strong, but more of a support piece than anything. Fatties are very good damage dealers, they're just a bit slow and a bit squishy.

>>49547170
I'm saying I like her look, everyone else is lame. And the layout of the cards initially confused me cause she had bonus points like the masters.

>>49550764
>>49550844
Thanks guys

>>49550894
Well, you can have her in any crew so ho nuts.

Cache isn't bonus points. It's your soulstones you or any hench/master can use to add suits, flip more cards, prevent damage, draw cards, or reflip initiative. Only your leader's cache is used, so any other henchmen you hire you'll just ignore it. Any SS you have left over after hiring can go in to your cache, to a maximum of 7.

Hannah is pretty useful for just about anyone. My personal favorite master to ruin her with is Nellie. No merc tax, arcane reservoir +2, and lots of actions to copy.

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Which of these are the most common summons?

I've got flesh construct, bellas, punk zombies, dogs, shikome, necropunks and hanged, so that I can always summon something with the right card.

Am I missing anything else often summoned? Are crooked men, crooligans or autopsies often summoned?

>>49547161
Thanks for laying that out. There's a ton of text and moving parts. Can be difficult to visualize as a noob.
>>49547726
Yes, all the posts I'm reading on the forums are mentioning hounds, but very few Wastrel if at all mentioned.
>>49547771
I'm not sure, I've never seen the corny apocalyptic 80s look in miniature form and got excited. I guess I'd go with whatever more viable or can better make a staticgeneralist crew to learn with.

Haven't seen any examples of cheated damage flips in the rule book, but you can do it, right? Unless of course you have a negative flip, which is most of the time.
But if you got no or a positive flip, you can just flip a card and if you want to play one from your hand per usual?

>>49544114
>wild ones
I had to look up what those were. They look rad. I hate Lucas's models too so these would be great for me. Where did you get them? Only at GenCon?

Started assembling the plastic lady justice box and i've got one question; Why does plastic lady justice look like an anorexic teenage girl compared to the old metal sculpt?

>>49551409
No doubt, Titty Justice>Anorexia Justice

>>49551396
They were available during the gencon sale. I assume they will be available later like the circus alternate guys.

>>49551204
I don't know about ressers any but: what I'd do is the following:
>Check the sizes of the base for each model
>Make sure you have enough of each size
>Use these as proxies till you have the right ones
>Make your way through the list, picking up whatever you really feel like at the time
You're more likely to paint shit you're excited about, y'know?

>>49551409
>>49551425
They dropped the ball quite a few times. I'm still wondering why Rusty looks like she's in her mid twenties instead of a tween.

>>49551540
probably because it's a tad creepy to have some 60 year old with a tween, not a japanese brand after all

>>49551540
Canonically how old is she supposed to be? I thought that her model was strange myself.

Why is the brutal emissary so fucking expensive? Is he not regular dude sized?

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>>49551870
>Is he not regular dude sized?

>>49551896
that's a big bitch

>>49551896
Bruuutal. Anybody know how he is on the table and who he goes well with in particular?

I play Lucius, Hoffman and Perdita. Looking to get the reporter lady also.

>>49551346
You can. It's not common, but when your cam get those cheatable damage flips it's great. That's why Papa in the box is so powerful.

>>49551278
>Yes, all the posts I'm reading on the forums are mentioning hounds, but very few Wastrel if at all mentioned.

Well, the normal McCabe box comes with 3 wastrels, so if you looking a threads discussing what to get with McCabe, no one is going to suggest a model that comes in the box.

>>49547726
>>Wastrels do not, as far as I am aware, have their own box
>You could buy a Miss Anne Thrope individually, though.
If you are US based, Gadzooks Gaming sells them individually for $5 a pop.

>>49551972
He's a big beast with support/control abilities and a solid attack. Can bury models and use the (1) actions of buried models.

With Lucius he gives out a healing aura and can make Lucius a legit melee threat with his new attack. Little expensive for a non-minion in a Lucius crew though.

With Hoffman he gains construct, gives + flips to power looped models in 3" and can offensively generate scrap. He also enables lots of bullshit by using buried models' actions, like popping targeting systems and using Howard's attack for auto-decapitation.

He doesn't do much for dita, just makes Obey easier and you don't randomize for him when shooting.

>>49551618
I get that, but 1e had a nice balance of twisted, comic relief, action, etc. Does Candy even mindfucker people by making them think they molested her anymore?
>>49551704
Pretty sure she's very late teens/early twenties now.

>>49551951
My man

>>49552037
Rad. I would have picked him up just to paint but he seems like a solid choice for Hoffman.

Why is he so big? What the fuck is he?

>>49552008
They were crew building threads. If no one is suggesting them, it could be they're all bad llayers or Wastrel just isn't that good. I have no idea, that's why I'm asking and reading.

>>49552087
You know the effigies? Well, when the Governor-General tried to go full tyrant and it backfired, all the avatar power grounded itself in them and they got huge.

>>49552141
Yet or little wizard friend became a giant mecha bull.

>>49552141
Did he died?

>>49552354
>>49552354
It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit

>>49552396
He's the burning man, like the jack of other side.
>>49552465
Don't need an explanation, it's stupid.

>>49552613
>like the jack of other side.
What? I know next to nothing about the other side. How's it looking? Both fluff-wise and crunch.

Also should we just start making these Wyrd threads rather than just malifaux?

I'm torn between Lilith and Pandora. One seem to be beast in close combat, when other is just walking mindfuck. Both looks appealing, both spirits and demons have cool models.

What to do?
>inb4 buy both

>>49551618
Half of Leviticus is being a creep. He's got mindwiped waifus for his totems, ffs.

the other half is smugness and dying.

>>49552897
I wish I had a scanner. Then I could just post book 4 instead of explaining stuff.
No one gives a shit about puppet wars, TTB discussion is very off and on, and we haven't gotten any more info on TOS. Might as well leave it as is until they start disrupting one another.
>>49553040
Exactly, then people act like I'm the sick fuck going out of his way to make a lewd 12 y.o version of rusty.
>Banned on module
Can this shit stop? Doesn't even help and refreshing ips while not on a computer is a bitch.

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Not wanting to magnatize, I got an other pair of Coryphées to make a duet. I green-stuffed together the skirts in unatural shapes. Since My 2 coryphées have different color schemes, I'm thinking of painting this duet in both color schemes, each one in her own, but the colors of the skirts flow beyond their boundries into each others skirts, making a ying yang like swirl of colors.

>>49553591
Sounds good. Post pics of the result.

How do you get so good at sculpting?

>>49553617
Rehersing. My first sculpts were ugly blobs. Now, many years later, it looks like this. You don't even need to reherse a lot, it comes quickly, as it's a bit like drawing, except you can push and pull the lines into proper shape when you do something wrong.

>>49553591
From your description I thought it was gonna be lame as fuck, but that's killer.
Do you often mod?

>>49553666
Not in Malifaux. I used to sculpt a lot from green stuff for 40k and warhammer, but I've fallen for malifaux now, so it's not much GW for me now, and malifaux doesn't really give me the opportunity to sculpt a lot.

>>49553713
Maybe this is just the beginning. Malifaux sculpts can by dynamic, but they ain't always good. It does take more work, but I think the end results are cooler than the chunky plainness 40k can suffer from.
Your corphyee mod really accentuates their synchronized nature and creates a lot of movement.
Hope to see more shit.

>>49549930
Taelor. You're gonna be doing loads of damage with double positives on her relic hammer, and she's got a trigger to ignore armor and HtK.

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>>49541475
Thanks man.
>>49545725
After not seeing it for a day and sealing it, I'm a bit less mad at it. I still need to brighten up the mask.

>>49555384
I like the almost pastel tones you've got going on on the skin.

>>49555384
I need to get mine painted up. I'm going to go with red skin, not sure about the flames at this point. Maybe blue and purple.

>>49555537
Red skin could be pretty cool

>>49555537
i'd like to see red skin with bright almost neon green flames

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>>49555537
>Sandeep summons the fire spirit

Note to self, paint metals by hand or first. Nearly ruined the paintjob I had going with taelor because of how the old metal one is positioned

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Could I get a quick beginners guide on how to play/ build a good "take all comers" list for Jack Daw?

>>49551204
Crooligans are some of the best scheme runners and are an easy summon.
They're in Molly's box so you'll get them eventually as she is a great master and the rest of her box is very useful for ressers.

>shenlong and sensei yu punch out kirai, datsue bae, and ikiryo over 2 turns, after sensei yu dropped kirai off a roof
i still lost the game, sadly, but holy shit, swapping between fermented and high river style while everyone is clustered around you is fucking amazing
i'll take the moral victory, considering it was my second game with shenlong and only 4th as ten thunders

>>49546804
I was expecting Lillith was the main problem, and I usually kill her faily easily by T2/T3.

I play Colette, took Showgirls and Howard.

Howard spent all game paralysed, which was inconvenient but basically fine, because in doing so he boxed in about half his crew and ate a lot of full activations from a couple of beaters.

I ran around and maxed my schemes, and then lost the last point on the strat to lose by one instead of drawing.

I often run a Trapper, which usually does a good job deleting minions and zoning out the more fragile masters, but I just got Howard and wanted to try him out.

>>49550764
>>49550844
Someone told me that I should always be dropping Corpse/Scrap against Sonia, because her Flame Wall cannot be placed in contact (or within 1"?) of other markers.
Is that true?
Because it seems really useful if so.

>>49552962
You should definitely go Lilith.

>>49553591
That looks really good mayn.

Definitely post your WIPS.

>>49557382
Bring Jack with Writhing Torment, Twist & Turn, and all three injustices. Writhing Torment is crazy good, it basically lets your shooty models always shoot and melee models always charge. Twist & Turn lets you torment one of your big guys with Jack, gives you a kinda-obey, and a bunch of other cool tricks. The Injustices are his thing, and make your opponent's life miserable.

Bring Envy with Creeping Terror, and consider one more C7 model (I like Lust and Greed). Envy has a big base to make sure as many models benefit from Creeping Terror as possible, and he's a shooty tormented model to boot. The other C7 members fill a variety of roles, but all of them have nasty auras and most have a good ability for Jack to borrow.

Then take a big 8+ SS murder machine. Lazarus, Alyce, Lovelace, Bishop, Sue, Taelor, etc... you're going to torment this model with Jack and then point it at whatever is most precious for your opponent and make that thing much less alive. I like Alyce, personally, because on top of her awesome gun she brings her own snares aura that makes life even shittier for your opponent. Probably give this model Oathbreaker unless you really need the stone or there's a better upgrade (like Return Fire on Sue).

Take at least one Guilty. Jack will copy Share Guilt on the first turn to torment your other model. They're also surprisingly competent scheme runners (Jack makes them way more mobile than they look), hit decently hard, and your models won't randomize when they're engaged which is super useful.

You've now got something like 10-20 extra stones for the rest of your models, upgrades, and cache. Maybe bring a second Guilty for marker heavy objectives, that 2nd C7 model if it'll help, a Librarian if you need to hold ground, or throw his totem in there. You've got all the Outcast faction plus tormented stuff like Nurses, Hanged, and Ubume. You're not Levi, but you're pretty flexible. (And take a Librarian and a 2nd Guilty if you're not sure.)

>>49560704
Danke, that's more to the point than half the shit I've been trying to read on the net.

>>49560704
This is probably the most helpful post in the thread. Thanks pro anon.

>>49551396
I love them as models, but for some reason I hate them for malifaux.

Glad they are an alternate crew atleast.

Already on my way to LGS.
Pandora, Ramos, Ophelia or Brewy?

>>49562552
Why are your masters spread across that many factions?

Also, Ramos.

>>49562745
Because they seem fun.

>>49552141
It annoys me that the little Goth Loli Spidergirl for the Neverborn become Tree Man.
There was so much Mama Spider potential there that just now all gone.

>>49562818
Yeah probably would have preferred that honestly.

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>>49562818
Thinking about it now though I have 6 jorogumo I could hack one up for a spider mama emissary. I just need some masks and a cute female to replace the jorogumo top with.

>>49562552
Ended up with Brewmaster. Lolmodels > Winning Games.

>>49563415
He's still alright though. Get good with him and you'll win plenty.

>>49563415
I have a brewmaster crew that I haven't lost with yet so far. But I've only played like 5 game with it.

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>>49561992
>The Wild Ones
>I love them as models, but for some reason I hate them for malifaux.

Probably because they're about 20-30 years ahead of the setting's aesthetic.
They just look out of place.

>>49562818
>>49562975
>I just need some masks and a cute female to replace the jorogumo top with.
Widow Weaver?
I don't know how practical it would actually be, and you might need to bend and sculpt the dress a bit, but if you cut away the pink sections it might just plonk on top of the Jorugumo's abdomen with a little leg rearranging.

What's you guys opinions on Hannah?
Can she fit in well in a Jack daw crew as the beater?
Are her ancient tomes upgrade a nessicary one?

>>49563822
For some reason people just hate playing against him so I don't get many chances to play with him at my locals and when Im doing national meetups/tournaments the scene feels a bit too competitive and fast paced to get him out.

When I do use him he tends to wreck face though. Just don't get too focussed on poisoning stuff.

>>49563935
The plastic widowweaver's torso is noticeably smaller than the jorogumo's is, I'm also not much a fan of the face, yeah it looks monster-y, but I want something more humanoid.

>>49563969
Yeah, I play an obey and lure heavy list so that probably why. That and no one seems to mind rooster riders running schemes on their backfield, so long as they aren't charging.

>>49563935
That's true, they seem kind of jump the shark-y.

But in a game that opened with samurai punk zombies that seems like a silly feeling to have.

>>49551204
Guild autopsy/Punk zombie/Hanged

You don't need anything else.

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Soup guise.

More crew selection practice time!
I'll post in 15 minutes - approximately five minutes plast the hour.

Latigo Town

Deployment: Corner (8)
Strategy: Guard the Stash / Reckoning (1)
Schemes: (3R, 13T)

Show Of Force (R)
Leave Your Mark (T)
Neutralize The Leader (3)
Occupy Their Turf (13)
Convict Labor (Always)

Opponent declares: Ten Thunders

I declare: Arcanists

I don't really know what TT do, so I'm just going to pick a crew for the schemes and post it in 15 minutes.

Please do critique my list if you're willing.

>>49565803
To clarify:

Strategy is Guard The Stash.

Crew builder is at
ByTheTree net

S&S + Map generator is at
godswearhats com malifaux schemes

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>>49565803
>>49565936
Guard the Stash

Leave Your Mark
Convict Labour - if opponent's crew is very small/elite
OR
Occupy Their Turf - if it looks more likely I can teleport minions into their half

Deploy in the North-West, with the Trapper on the roof of the North-Eastern building, in the corner nearest the centre.

Either way, place markers as if for Convict Labour for utility and bluffing.
If I don't take Occupy, teleport Performers behind their lines to lure (Siren's Call) away from Stashes and the centre, blowing up markers near the Stashes to put them on -- to Wp, while also bluffing Occupy. If I do take Occupy, lure them to my side and scrag 'em with Cassandra and two + shots from the Trapper.

Arcanists
50ss Crew

Colette Du Bois -- 6ss
+Arcane Reservoir - 2ss
+Shell Game - 1ss
+Cabaret Choreography - 2ss
Mechanical Dove - 2ss

Cassandra - 8ss
+Practiced Production - 1ss
+Smoke And Mirrors - 1ss

Freikorps Trapper - 7ss
Arcane Effigy - 4ss
Mannequin - 4ss
Mannequin - 4ss
Performer - 5ss
Performer - 5ss

>>49566081
That looks pretty solid. I might swap a Mannequin for a Raptor for super easy marker dropping and maybe switch the Effigy+Trapper for Hank just to clear out the middle.

I'd probably take this.

Ten Thunders
50ss Crew

Lucas McCabe -- 4ss
+Promises - 1ss
+Glowing Saber - 2ss
+Badge Of Speed - 2ss

Luna - 4ss

Guild Austringer - 6ss

Guild Austringer - 6ss

Guild Hound - 3ss

Guild Hound - 3ss

Izamu The Armor - 10ss
+Recalled Training - 1ss

Shadow Emissary - 10ss
+Conflux Of Exploration - 0ss

Leave Your Mark and either Neutralize/Occupy/Convict depending on the opposing crew. Usual McCabe fare, throw Izamu in somebody's face while Hounds win the game. Lots of LoS blocking terrain gives Austringers the perfect opportunity to ruin everything.

>>49567088
What's the shadow doing? Other then being a beater?

>>49567220
Im guessing bringing an extra upgrade, an extra push, and just a nice bonus to focus. What Im more curious about is why no Dawn Serpent or even Jorogumo.

They do a better job at keeping up by themselves and getting reactivate on them is so much more valuable than on an Austringer.

>>49567088
I thought about Howard, but then Occupy is too easy to deny.
I want one Performer on my side to pull their models into executable positions, and then ideally one on their half - both to pull their models off the Stash, and to make the Occupy positioning easier to pull off in a single turn.

Swapping Mannequin for Raptor is a good idea actually - I usually use a Dove and Practiced Production's free markers, but if Cassandra's going to have to be beating face in the middle then there's a real chance she'll die before I get them all in place. The handy thing about them flying is that I could be dropping them on rooftops for inaccessible = un-deniable Leave Your Mark.
You've reminded me, I need to get around to finding a suitable Raptor proxy.
I don't want to buy a box of three (two?) for £8 when I'll only ever take one, and I'd ideally like to to be part clockwork/mechanical to fit in with the Doves and general Construct-y Arcanists, as I'm not particularly attracted to Marcus and all the other masters are more metal than meat.
There's a Warmachine Cryx unit of vulture things that would be perfect, but I don't want to buy a £28 box of niine of them either.

>>49567220
Free upgrade, Fast for McCabe/Izamu, pushes, focus, that sort of thing.

>>49567280
Thought about those, but points. Could drop the Austringers altogether for a 3rd hound and Jorogumo, but I like birds.

>>49567088
The Hounds can drop Scheme Markers?
They're dogs! Madness!
Pack Mentality OP.

>>49567220
>more valuable than on an Austringer.
Like he said, the Austringer is reliable damage on a target of your choice - valuable with all that LoS-blocking terrain.

>>49567088
>>49567220
What does the Shadow Emissary do, in general?

>>49567516
He has a (1) action to give a model with an upgrade a 4" push and Fast, a Ca6 2/3/6, can discard a card to gain Focus +2 when he activates, can put up an aura with 1 ability per suit trigger (focused attacks gain blasts, armor blocks additional damage, burning enemies reduce Df, poison damage increased), and with the Conflux of Exploration he can attach a McCabe upgrade for free and can use Take This as a (0) to pass the upgrade off like McCabe.

He's just a big, durable toolbox.

>>49567489
Wasn't even suggesting dropping the Austringers - a reactivating Dawn Serpent with double Call onto the Chi can tank quite a bit if you need him to and Ml7 or Sh7 with blast tend to make him a slightly preferable choice compared to Izamu for me.

>>49567516
I'd say every TT crew benefits from having either Yu or the Emissary. Yu's pushes, schemeplay and copying 0's compared to the Emissary's pushes, condition buffs and master upgrades. Overall the Emissary seems like a more generalist support piece compared to Yu's strong niche. Ultimately they're both really expensive support pieces though so you generally have to pick one or the other with your masters.
I'd generally prefer the Emissary with...
Mei - as she has no 0's and the Emissary's free scrap is just too good to pass up, especially with Toshiro in the mix
McCabe - for free upgrades and McCabe's natural pushiness making Yu a bit redundant for his price
Shenlong - because his extra ability is just so damn good and the conditions that'll be literally everywhere. The only master I often consider taking both Yu and the Emissary with

>>49567489
I think Austringers are definitely a solid pick for a map like this.

>>49567762
I could see that over Izamu. A little poison fun if you want to mess with the Emissary's aura as well. But I dunno, Izamu is such a beat stick it's hard to play McCabe without him. A Hound with the glowing saber and reactivate charging an enemy near a scheme marker and the promises bubble is 8 attacks with + flips ignoring nearly everything.

>>49567887
You'll need lots of scheme markers and to kill every enemy in two attacks to get all 8, you're more likely to get 5 or 6 out of a given hound and that's assuming he survives for the chance to reactivate, no more companionning into yourself with the new FAQ. It's still quite scary if your within the Promises aura

>>49568032
That's why I love McCabe. Every model is a potential back breaker.

>>49568215
Don't I fucking know it, he can be a pain to plan against. Though for everyone out there remember that his and Toshiro's Auras don't work with Sh or Ca attacks. Cheaty ass Dawn Serpent, [+][+] on his shooting attack my ass.

>>49568032
>you're more likely to get 5 or 6 out of a given hound
Only five or six attacks from a hound with Sabre in a single turn?
Fuckin' garbage, I don't know why even bother with McCabe at all.

But no seriously, thank fucking god for that errata, self-re-activating was horrific.

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thanks for reminding me about this glorious bald motherfucker, OP
too bad he doesn't do animation more often
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToXAbi-Xxpw

>>49568421
Yeah you got it. And yeah plague is pretty cool. Watching a couple of his timelapses helped me work on some miniatures, didn't make me any better at drawing though.

>>49568407
Never encountered that shit but thank god I didn't cause I would have gotten saltier than the Dead Sea.

>>49568934
I've never needed to self-companion with him, but I've seensome people get pretty pissed when they kill a Performer next to Joss or Howard Langston, and reactivate a big killer right in the midst of an apparently successful combat - and then eat two (or three) high min-damage blades to the face.

>>49568934
In the gold old days I could give a hound reactivate and toss in the Badge of Speed for nimble with a nice push to boot. Then it could walk 3 times, reactivate itself because companion, walk again, and Deliver a Message turn 1.

Probably for the best that I can't do that any more.

I love how you can tell who the good players are in the meta by saying you are thinking about playing Hamlin this week for the divergent paths games and seeing who doesn't want to play of my favorite response "If I see you put that down in front of me I'm going to forfeit."

>>49568934
Same, I've played against McCabe a few times now and he's good enough without hounds getting two back to back activations

>>49569116
Since when are Joss and Langston minions or showgirls?

>>49569309
Joss and Langston comment is for >>49569107

>>49569286
I always wanted to play against Hamlin with Nico.

>>49569441
god that would be a game wouldn't it?

No this started last week when I made the statement that I had been working on my Hamlin crew, and the guy who owns a rat crew but refuses to play it made a joking "fuck you" at me, and I think everyone thinks it was serious, as they have heard of the nightmarish turn one taking 45 min to an hour of the rat engine, and the turn 1 killjoy assassination stories.

Is Hamlin a strong master or does peoples dislike of him come from simply how long it takes to actually play games against him?

>>49569441
I'm wondering, did Wyrd ever make a scenario for the Hamelin v Lucius fight in the fluff?

>>49569533
As grandpa Simpson once said "The truth lies somewhere in the middle."

It's a little of both, he can be strong because of how fucking unkillable he can be, and outactivating you every turn doesn't help you. You get a feeling of helplessness if you don't know how to counter him, as he heads off to beat objectives and you have to maneuver dudes around his rats or waste time hacking through them.

>>49569309
Good point.
It must have been the trigger off the Prompt then - locally a couple of Colette players use the Performers for late Paralyses a lot, so if you get the chance to kill one it's often worth doing.
Cassandra would be the Performer reactivate, which is still pretty decent with the push triggers and Nimble.
It's pretty funny watching her charge, push twice and then nimble to threaten Entourage or a deployment zone scheme out of nowhere.

>>49569533
He's pretty strong, but mostly it's a time thing, i think. You could have 40+ activation turn one.

>>49569286
Is that not to some extent because it's not particularly fun for them if you go full-ratard?

>>49569579
I haven't read the most recent book, but i read all the first ed stuff and up to the 4th in 2nd, and to my knowledge they've never crossed paths.

Come to think of it, I can't think of any stories where Lucius actually fights in the fluff. Mostly he's just manipulating/intimidating people.

So, how DO you beat full scale rat swarm Hamelin?

Blasts?
Snipers?
Pigapult?

>>49569661
I actually meant to type Nicodem instead of Lucius. I can't believe that I screwed that up.

I will have to check the2nd book and see if the story where Hamelin and Nicodem fought had one of those story scenarios.

>>49569643
To be clear I don't intend To play it against anyone in the near future especially in a game that doesn't matter. And in this case I think it's the hype around him that is causing people to run instead of fighting him.

>>49569672
all of the above are fine, I think an opposing outcast crew with trappers hans and laz (maybe something like johan with a relic hammer as a finisher) would have a good chance of beating him. Alternatively I've had a grand experience with a disguise misaki crew where I threw misaki and 2 ronin in front of the jorogumo, he popped out killjoy and said "I'm charging misaki" I LOVE that I got to tell him, "No, you're going to charge Nix"

>>49569672
Clever pushes would help.
blasts are good, area effect damage is better.

Bring rats of your own, for a giant clusterfuck.

Austringers really fuck up Hamlin himself. If you take out his totems for respawning, he goes down like a chump.

>>49569698
I vaguely recall that story. I don't think they had a scenario with it.

I just got Jakuuna and Ama no Zako. Going to try a Jack Daw hazardous terrain fuckery deal with them, Drowned, and Lust.

Good idea?

As someone who doesn't own anything Outcast besides Ama no Zako, how big an investment would it be to start Hamelin? I love his theme and his playstyle seems fun, but I don't wanna buy into a whole new faction again.

>>49569960
Other than his box and Brotherhood of the rat, you really just need more rats and a solid beater/shooter that you can obey with. Winged Plagues, I hear, are excellent ways to start blighting things and I know they are very solid scheme runners.

Any other suggestions?

>>49569993
I would be remissed if we didn't discuss how easily killjoy can fit into the list.

everyone expects it, few prepare for it

>>49570094
Right you are. Honestly I don't see Killjoy in my local meta that often...but then again, I'm one of the only two outcast players and the only thing I want from Hamelin are the winged plagues.

>>49569736
>Bring rats of your own, for a giant clusterfuck.
If you move a rat in range, can/do you trigger a Rat King-ing off enemy rats too?

It would be a pretty hilarious way to torpedo a rat engine, hijacking it by running one of your own and stealing three activations from him.

>>49570262
What to Winged Plagues do except fly (presumably) and spread Blight?

>>49570349
>If you move a rat in range, can/do you trigger a Rat King-ing off enemy rats too?
Yes that's exactly how it works.

>>49570349
>>49570371
The main problem is that the ability checks when the rat first activates so you need to get it into position *then* activate it.

Also with the errata to Malifaux Rats you can't straight up hire them unless Hamlin is leading, but you can still summon them with the Obedient wretch and Rat Catchers.

>>49570349
The biiiig thing that winged plagues do for me is that free push they get at the end of the turn. Since I don't play hamelin, nearly everyone is conditionless at that point and I can start the turn with them to get interaction based schemes off, like Distract, Tag and Release, or Mark or whatever.

Plus, in a pinch, since I'll never blight anything that positive to attack helps offset their low attack. The damage is piddly but armor doesn't matter when the best you can do is an average of 2 damage anyway.

So what are some synergies with desparate mercs? I hear Tara has something neat with mini bombs with 'em, and viks have some cute trick. Are they just cheap bodies for activation control or somthing more?

>>49571586
I think cheap is the biggest thing going for them.

If I was running daw, I'd stick a nurse with them for cheap choppy units.

>>49571613
That's an idea. I seem to recall something about tara pegging them for 1 to give 'em fast, giving then they got pluses because they were at 3 wounds, and then having a henchman nearby with I pay better to focus them for a shitty card made them ++ on their wild shooting.

>>49571586
They are disguised and the positive flip if you ding them can allow them to get some decent pings. The two inch reach also prevents the "walk to the other side of a scheme marker to remove* thing that gremlins love to do. Unless they have don't mind me.

I use them like them to fake inspection or to do their own thing on the sides. The free soul stone is a consolation prize and I never play for them. And wild firing is really there to burn cards out of a hand if you get a lucky hit.

>>49571668
So what are some good things to take in a Viks list if I don't want to get pigeon-holed into running the "sisters" theme if you don't mind my asking?

>>49571709
Well, Blood and Ash are of course necessary and I usually run Vanessa, though I've had success not using her.

Aside form them (and usually that's 19 or so points spent, with a Malifaux child and including upgrades),

One 10 point model to match the table/scheme set up (Taelor if I sniff a summoner or hear arcanist for instance, Rusty if it's a shooting gallery, Lazarus since Vanessa can obey him, Sometimes a Strong Arm suit if I hear things that don't ignore armor),

Big Jake + Two 4 point models for scheme running (Usually winged plague, sometimes Desperate Mercs), or 2 Ronin + a Freikorpsmann if I want to do Public Demonstration

This set up gives about 5-6 stones to play with.

>>49571844
Nice. You the guy that did the Jack daw write up earlier?

>>49571844
If the strat + schemes are ultra killy and I see Hunting party in the pool. I love running my all star list where the only non-enforcer or better is Malifaux Child who hides WAY in the back away from everything. Since my local meta loves arcanist I usually run.

Ash, Blood (normal set up)
Vanessa (Cause construct control is love)
Taelor, Johana (Cause 3 inch reach and eff yo constructs)
Rusty (sometimes Two convict gunslingers and I stick the tattoo on Vanessa for free Rapid Fires)

>>49571888
Nah, wasn't me. I'm a terrible jack player. I dropped him to get on the Parker train and haven't looked back. Just need to figure out who to sell or trade my daw stuff to.

>>49571941
Ah fair enough. We all got that one master.

My 14 (sometimes 25) player meta is unusually high in resser and neverborn numbers.

Also how do you upgrade rusty, I keep wanting to take both desolate soul and from the Aether on her but and I can't bring myself to stick a 14 point model into a list.

>>49572103
I actually don't take either since she's solid without a 2 point upgrade. Usually I stick I pay better and either Scout the Field (If Show of Force is in the pool since a free walk at first turn is not terrible).

But then I don't really care for the summoning of abombs since I've not yet needed them. Since the viks more than handle the stabby side of things I use her as a mobile cannon. I don't see her as being especially important in Parker.

>>49572154
Ah alright I think I get it now. Id probably consider Laz in that case but that big dumb robot has been making it into all sorts of lists lately. Might roll with Hans just to get the old man painted before my brotherhood of steel show up.

>>49572242
Speaking of Hans, I've found that I like using him with Scout the Field. Usually there's something that has 3 health that I can have him first turn kill. Or, I put my opponent on the back foot by injuring something.

In a tournament game, Wong had Old Cranky as a totem and was so worried about me popping him that he hid him in the back for the rest of the game.

>>49572268
Yeah scout seems really rough on Hans
>get fucked opponent deployment.

>>49572351
Too bad I rarely get those first turn kills against Ressers. Might be fun to soften up a Belle but usually I don't run him against Ressers.

>>49572422
What do you run against ressers since they run wild in my meta?

>>49572468
I love convict gunmen. Because ressers have tons of hard to wound and tend to be slower than many. The chance of getting free shots especially with return fire can eat through their high wounds.

Hannah shoving their summoners into the void if you're lucky though is sex at the top of the turn.

>>49572468
Taelor

>>49573501
>>49572656
>>49572468
I'm the convict gunmen anon. I am filled with shame for not pointing out Taelor. But yes, as soon as I hear Resser, Taelor WILL go into my list.

>>49569733
>disguise misaki crew where I threw misaki and 2 ronin in front of the jorogumo, he popped out killjoy and said "I'm charging misaki" I LOVE that I got to tell him, "No, you're going to charge Nix"
That sounds pretty fucking good times, actually.

>>49570557
>you can still summon them with the Obedient wretch and Rat Catchers.
So you'd have to take one of the above and puke a rat onto two that have already activated, away from any that haven't?
That does sound a bit fiddly.

>>49571586
I'm glad it turns out they are actually good for something.
Great models.

>>49575545
New thread.