>Playing? >Testing? >BDIF/Favorite deck in format?

>>49420507
Common Legacy - Decks You Should Prepare to Face
>Miracles
>Delver variants (Grixis, Izzet, BUG, RUG)
>ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils)
>Death and Taxes
>Eldrazi Stompy
>Shardless BUG
>Lands

Uncommon Legacy - Decks You Should Know About
>LED Dredge
>Reanimator
>Infect
>Stoneblade
>Burn
>TES (The Epic Storm)
>Elves
>Painter
>Maverick
>4-Color Loam
>Nic Fit
>Sneak n Show

Rare Legacy - Decks You May See On Occasion
>Enchantress
>MUD
>Goblins
>Merfolk
>High Tide
>Aluren
>Food Chain
>12 Post
>Belcher
>Pox Control
>Dragon Stompy
>Tezzerator
>Sneak n Breach
>Stax (White or Black)

Mythic Legacy - Decks You'll See Once a Year
>Doomsday Fetchland Tendrils (DDFT)
>Cheerios
>Nourshing Lich
>Sea Stompy
>Spanish Inquisition
>Shitty Wannabe Defunct Sneak n ShowMonoblue Omnitell
>Parfait
>The Cure (Kavu Predator + False Cure)

>not putting legacy in the subject line

>>49420630
Forgive me Senpai

>10 step process for the perfect brainstorm
Step one: cast brainstorm
Step 2: keep the cards you want
Step 3: put the chaff back
Step 10: cracking a fetch

>>49423609
sneaky doomsdayers always 7 steps ahead
i'm sorry i coudn't solve your last riddle doomsday-kun. Without that 3 additional mana i miscounted there was no way to win

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Why would I cast a spell when I can make it terrible instead? I only play decks that fuck with brainstorm.

>>49423609
The hard part is evaluating which cards are your worst cards

>>49423904
Muh gentleman of African descent. MUD master race. I also play D&T, I am I bad person?[/spoilers]

>>49424384
Nah man, I pretty much only play decks that have playsets of Chalice. Stax, Tezz and MUD are my jam.

>>49424384
You are. Of course, I play DnT, White Stax, Soldier Stompy, Dragon Stompy, Goblin Stompy and a bunch of brews that start with 8 x Thalia 4x Chalice 4x Chaliceman

>>49420507
>Playing?
ANT
>Testing?
Trying out Daze in the side. It's okay so far. Few opportunities to side it in however.
>BDIF/Favorite deck in format?
ANT. It's my dream deck.

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>>49423609
Oh, well that's step one.

What about steps two through ten?

>>49420507

>Playing?
infect
>Testing?
optimal salt harvesting techniques
>BDIF/Favorite deck in format?
none/mine
>Describe your ten-step process to performing the perfect brainstorm.
1) be turn 2
2) cast brainstorm
3) draw invigorate, berserk, force of will
4) put back two lands
5) crack misty rainforest
6) attack with glistener elf
7) stare opponent dead in the eyes
8) invigorate
9) berserk
10) poison

>>49423837
Oh yeah I'll give the answer to that. It was hard.

Here's the text of the puzzle:
You're at 14 life vs miracles. They have a meddling mage naming burning wish. You duress them and see 2 swords to plowshares and a counterspell. They have 2 untapped tundras. You have an island, a swamp and a top. Your hand is ritual, doomsday, probe, led. What would you do to have the best shot at winning?

One very valid answer to " What would you do to have the best shot at winning?' is to just say "take the counterspell, pass turn". a variety of cards will win for you next turn. you have a top to dig for discard, and you have at least one more black source that you'll untap with because you had to cast Duress off something. However, you do have an opening in which there are no counterspells, and there is a rare kind of pass-the-turn pile that can beat 2 swords in this situation:
[top] Ideas Unbound, LED, Probe, Top, Maniac [bottom]
ritual->doomsday off the swamp, play LED, cast Probe off island, hold priority and crack LED for UUU. Ideas Unbound->Top,LED,Probe for 2 life, hold priority, crack LED for UUU, draw and cast Maniac. Then pass the turn. You'll have no cards in your deck, Labman and 2 tops on board at 5 life. You can eat a hit from Meddling Mage, and can top in response to Swords. A third removal spell kills you, but you don't play this deck if you're scared.

Honestly it's up in the air as to whether it's better to wait or do the weird pile. There are strong arguments for both. I'd probably go with the weird pile because I live for danger.

>>49424692
i recall that a chromatic star was a mana ability and cannot be responded to with removal when you have maniac on the battlefield. sure missed that way to win.
I like how Ideas are a more expensive recall in this deck, shame I'm too dumb to crack the optimal ways to play.

>>49424775
yeah I don't play chromatic sphere in my list because the situations where it was helpful were very few and far between, and I wanted something more useful when I drew it pre-combo. Even this puzzle, where sphere would be perfect, is really contrived. Meddling Mage maindeck in Miracles is rare. And there still are ways to beat the double removal hand. I don't think sphere is worth it.

No, honestly guys. Help me.

I feel like I'm going to buy LEDs. It also means I have to sell most of my shit away to be able to afford them and I know logically paying the current price of that specific cardboard is batshit crazy... But I still feel like I'm going to do it.

I got over it thinking I don't need them, but then I heard some other shitheads talking about how they bought fishing lures for 170€ each. (They were historic pieces and not so common today. And in very high demand) Suddenly I didn't feel like LEDs were not too bad. Especially since those nutheads bought a book talking about those lures for 400€.

I feel like I'm in addiction I've got to get rid off for my own good. Do I just sell my deck before finishing it? I don't really need it desu.

Looking forward to trying my friend's Nic Fit list this Friday. Looks like a super deck, probably going to build it myself. Cause I really need a 4th legacy deck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g88HFitALAI

These are the people Wizards are catering to with the Reserve list. Bragging about how they have mounds of unopened boxes so they can corner the market harder. yeesh.

>>49426299
There are some cheap alternatives: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00UWBJM0Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474330470&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=led&dpPl=1&dpID=512z0orjIKL&ref=plSrch

>>49426411
I like the guy. There is really nothing wrong with making money this way, but yes. I do disagree with reserved list and how it kills legacy.

Actually thanks for this. It reminded me why I gave up on buying cards and already sold big portion of them. Owning cards don't mean anything if you can't finish the decks and with current prices, it's impossible for me to finish a single deck.

>>49426459
Oh I'm not worried about diodes. It's the cardboard that makes me lose my nerves.

>>49426299
the way I look at it is this is my hobby, and people spend money on their hobbies. once I got it in my head, it was kind of just going to happen, "fuck it, I'm buying trops." so go for it, if you think owning the cardboard will bring you more happiness than not.

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>>49424653
>10) poison

>>49426512
>Lions Eye Diamond
>Light Emitting Diode
/badum tiss

Anyone play Painter here?

>>49426715
You think I missed your joke?

>>49427056
It's hard for me to tell.

>>49420523
>deck I play isn't even on the list

Feels goodman

>>49427447
What deck would that be?

>>49427447
you can't just post that and not tell us what deck it is.

>>49427447
Same

Can you overcast a spell? If a creature has bb as it's cmc, but I also want the haste from Hall of the Bandit Lord, can I pay three mana for it?

>>49428744
No

>>49420507
>10 step process to performing perfect brainstorm
1. G
2. I
3. T
4. G
5. U
6. D
7. cast brainstorm
8. See steps 1-6
9. Keep doing steps 1-6
10. Voila the perfect brainstorm

>>49428744
What deck uses Hall? Genuinely curious

So I've been trying to trade into Legacy for years, and I don't know why (there's no local scene). Anyway, trading in isn't working and I've started a new job where I can start saving up and buying in. Has /tg/ ever considered posting when they find good sales and clearances online? I thought CFB's "Flash Sale" looked ok, but it's not.

>>49429498

The best place I've found is TCGPlayer, and just being patient and watching price trends to see if they're on an upward or downward trend. Idk if any other anons have a better source.

The pieces have been arriving over the last couple of days. This deck is silly. Going to need to practice a lot, taking a long time deciding what to do and in what order.

>>49429498
tl;dr please post online sales you find

>>49429498
They have a weekly sales thread over a mtgfinance subreddit

Anyone planning on going to any GPs or another kind of tournament in 2017? I'm going to my first GP, unfortunately it's modern but I'm excited for the experience

>>49431400

Cannot wait for the next GP in my area so I can play some legacy!

If I feel good enough by next year I'm even thinking of flying out to one of the legacy GPs.

>>49431400
Theres a Legacy 3k in Los Angeles Oct 30, but being a legacy noob I dont want to fuck up.

>>49431400
Sadly, Wizards have stopped Legacy GPs in Europe. I was at the last two and really enjoyed them, but now it's only Eternal Weekend, Bazaar of Moxen and MKM Series, I guess.

>>49431400
The next GP in Australia is going to be on the other end of the country, and there's no fucking way I'm buying plane tickets just so I can play sanctioned Legacy

>>49432760
Drive through the outback don't be a pussy

>>49431400
I go to every legacy event in my area. Next is late October, then 2 in November

>>49432889
Sure, I'll make an 18 hour drive so I can play Legacy side events.

>>49427513
>>49427507
Probably Deadguy Ale. I've been meaning to add it for a while now.

>>49433299
Oh yeah. That is a real deck that is missing. I couldn't think of any.

>>49431400
I'm planning on going to the Baltimore open in November. I'm not sure when the next American GP is.

>>49432945
Dont worry, I was kidding. Australia is scary. All the creatures there have infect.

>>49433609
And deathtouch.

>>49420507
Ten steps to a perfect Brainstorm. As a general rule, I try not to play a land until after Brainstorm, especially if I'm on a combo deck.

1.) Is this Brainstorm for filter, for draw, or for protection? Play accordingly.
2.) Cast Brainstorm.
3.) You can either put the chaff back, float your key pieces away (typically against Cabal Therapy), or dig to find more cards.
4.) If you didn't have a land or a fetch, play the one you drew. If you didn't draw one and didn't have one before Brainstorm, you're shit out of luck, unless you put pieces you actually wanted to keep back on top of the library.

Using Brainstorm isn't intuitive but that doesn't mean it's hard. You just have to know when to pop it and what "mode" to use (filter, draw, protection).

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>>49420507
Not legacy related but I have to get it out
>Play casual free for all with a couple of friends
>Usually a lot of fun, but can get heated sometimes
>One of my friends is really arrogant and hates to lose
>3 days ago
>Our usually late night play session
>The arrogant guy is winning and starts his combat phase
>He proceeds to alpha strike me with all his creatures, for a total of 30+ dmg
>I only have one blocker and 16 HP
>He got a smug as fuck smile on his face
>I proceed to declare my blocker and think its over
>but then another one of our group use fog, and completely fucks the arrogant guy over
>We all start laughing like hell, except him
>Comepletely fucking buttblasted, he starts slamming his deck and throws cards all over the place and yell something gibberish about cancer and fog
I haven't laughed so much for in a while, but holy hell how can someone get so mad/serious over a casual game of Magic?

>>49434566
I wouldn't interfere with someone turning their creatures sideways, man. Serious case of the feel bads.

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>>49434566
>you didn't tap Top and flip Terminus off the top of your library
Now if you REALLY wanted to see some salt...

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>>49434666
I fucking wish I could afford a Miracles deck (parfait looks fun as well)
One day, laddie

>>49434666

>spin a top back for a terminus

My favorite play Miracles pulls off

Rate my dreck http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/doom-fit/

>>49435271
0/10 needs more Nefarious Lich

>>49434566

"The best cure for a big ego is a little failure."

>>49435339
My LGS is having their first ever Legacy fnm this Friday and I'm torn over whether to play DDFT or Nourishing Lich or Belcher

>>49434566
Have you tried playing Deflecting Palm or something similar against him?

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>>49420507
>http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/how-to-defeat-miracles/
>Goblins is not the best way to beat it

Eat a dick. I crush with my goblin deck all the time.

>>49435469
Save Lich for a big tournament. You don't want people knowing about it until it's time to make a scene.

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>>49435532
Holy shit im going to try this
Thanks anon

>>49435593
Goblins was an amazing matchup agains Miracles until Monastery Mentor got printed.

>>49435744
Yeah you're right. I'll probably play DDFT until the newborn legacy scene here stabilizes. Don't want to drive people away by breaking the format. I'm just worried that a young scene=budget players=burn players and ddft''s burn match up is horrid.

>>49435844
Oooooooor you could play Lich, and then watch Burn kiddies cry as you Nourishing Shoal the Wurm for 15 on turn 1, just to piss them off.

>>49435871
Well if burn is that prevalent I will.

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>Legacy Splinter Twin is $3,000
I would rant and complain I think I'm just going to sit here and play it on Cockatrice for the next 6 hours.

>>49435766
I shall await your souvenir of salt
>>49435978
just print it out man, nothing stopping you to play the deck

>>49435978

I wasn't aware Splinter Twin was even possible in Legacy, I thought it was too fragile.

>>49436296
You can play it as a Stompy deck, with Chalice and Ancient Tomb and Blood Moon

>>49420507
>1. Cast brainstorm
>2. Look at the top three
>3. Look at hand
>4. Look at the top three
>5. Remember it's not Ponder
>6. Mix in with hand
>7. Assess hand
>8. Put two lands back on top
>9. Play a fetch
>10. Crack fetch
Sheepishly pass the turn.

>>49436515
I can imagine the mental facepalm of the judge at grand prix-es coming over to tables where someone just shuffled their library during the resolution of Brainstorm, or where one put two cards from their hand on top of their library during the resolution of Ponder.

>>49426411
Jesus Christ it's amazing how idiots are capable of saying so very little with so, so many words

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>>49426411
Cards are meant to be played!

>>49435879
>>49435871
And then people playing budget will be screwed.

>>49437314
No?

>>49437468
Tbh that's assuming that most budget players are burn.

Also, it's kinda obvious why Burn isn't being that prevalent in newer sets, due to how it's common enough to be budget

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>>49437488
>oh WotC finally printed a decent burn spell at instant sp-
>"creatures only"
wow its nothing

>>49437488
Yeah I'm not really sure what the meta will be like. I know there are about 4 or 5 people with complete, non-burn legacy decks. Then there are a couple burn players (not sure if budget or they actually like burn). Then there will probably be some wildcards, and new players looking to enter the format from modern, which means probably burn or merfolk or something. I just don't want to autolose to hAlf the field. i'd rather play lich and auto lose to the entire field

>>49437563
Honestly red has a lot of design space to be used.

>>49437841
But
>muh fireballs and goblins

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Can this card be utilized in Legacy?

>>49437841
I want red mill where you exile the top cards of your opponents library and get to play em.

>>49438243
They have better ways to get artifacts. no.
The only thing this card is good for is some kind of Boros Rec + Pariah meme combo.

>>49437060
>keep on skipping forward because the retard keeps on adding completely useless self-congratulatory statements.
>literally hear him bragging about his fucking grass out of context.
>talks about his own tax evasion on the internet
Fucking why?

>>49437060
>>49438385
>not knowing about Rudy
Ignorance is bliss I guess

>>49438297
That's more typically UB's domain. See Villainous Wealth and Ashiok.

>>49438499
They printed a rare in conspiracy 2 that does that very effect, and frankly it feels more red to steal people's cards then black.

>>49438297
The new grenzo from conspiracy does just this.

>>49439096
Yes and I love him and want to touch his naughty bits.

>>49437563
Someday good red spells and creatures will be in Standard. On that day I think I will go back and play, just to have more formats to play in. But once red goes away, so will I.

There's a cool UR deck in Standard now called Izzet Machinegun and I want to build it a little bit. It's a shame I'm too busy saving money to, you know, fucking live like an adult.

>>49433609
>>49433657

Some of them even have Skulk, landwalking and Flash.

>>49438243
With ancient tombs and Platinum Emperion as a target, maybe. The only problem is most of the decks I'd play this in want to play Chalice. It certainly has potential

>>49439866
Plat-E is the only good target for it if you don't want to cast a spell like Drom Command on it, which is good, sure, but feels like a mediocre thing to spend 4 mana tutoring for in this kind of format.

>>49431400
You've convinced me, I wasn't going to go due to work, but now that I know Esper miracles guy will be there, I'm definitely calling in sick and running infect.

Have any of you guys brewed with Artificer's Intuition? I looked at Greg Hatch's combo deck with Intuition but I wanted a more toolbox deck and I'm thinking about trying to brew something up. Being able to run a singleton Academy Ruins and a singleton tutorable Map alongside Engineered Explosives and a variety of Spellbombs seems pretty good. I'm also thinking of throwing in Goblin Welder and Sundering Titans to take advantage of the artifacts I pitch and Myr Servitor, which I can pitch to tutor for another and use them for chump. Trinket Mages function as extra copies of Intuition and chump as well. As for the mana base I'm thinking artifact lands, Tomb/City and a few utility.

>>49441227
So what's the wincon? Weldering back a big artifact from the grave? Have you thought about Shape Anew in the hopes you peel Blightsteel or Darksteel Colossus off the top?

>>49440857
It seems like everyone I meet in life is trying to piss me off.

I'm okay with this

>>49440857
he didn't say which gp. is it just the only modern format one in Canada? I'm way too lazy to check.

>>49441299
not sure yet, maybe Pyrite Spellbomb

>>49441643
GP Vancouver, I'm pretty sure all the legacy ones are on the other side of the country, and in Canada it's pretty much cheaper to fly to europe

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>>49441680

>>49437563

At least it's not Cancel: Now with additional downsides!

I like Kaladesh world building wise but god DAMN does it have some absolutely shit cards.

>>49437563
Seriously, why does wotc hate red this much?

>>49442051
Because it isn't green.

>>49442051
I want to argue against this >>49442063 but I can't. Green has been good since Theros gave us Nykthos, Voyaging Satyr, Polukranos and friends. Sometimes I still have nightmares about board states from that GW Mastery of the Unseen deck.

>>49441999
no, man - you can bounce your prophetic prism and replay it for VALUE it's cancel with upside!

>>49442063
This is extremely true. Green even has better cantrips than blue.

>>49442155

that's what i think to myself every time i have to return a land to my hand to not lose the game.

>bitch you'd be sorry if i had my prophetic prism out right now let me tell you that

>>49442186
In Standard that is. I forgot this is the legacy thread.

Splicing together the new flowchart, now in color. Included as many, but not all, viable decks as I could.

>>49442582

It better have my favorite deck or I'm going to give you such a reeeeing

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New flowchart. This was much easier to do the second time thanks to the absolute hell of the first.

What do you guys think? Can we finally update our old shitty flowchart to this one?

>>49442810
Just called Hexmage and Depths Turbo Depths, as you can also use Thespian Stage

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Anyone got the lich list? I want to take it for a spin on xmage and see if it's worth the hype.

>>49442810
What is Judge Destroyer?

>>49442945
2 Lich
4 Nefarious Lich

2 Zuran Orb
4 Lotus Petal

3 Cabal Ritual
4 Thoughtseize
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
1 Summoner's Pact
4 Nourishing Shoal
4 Dark Ritual
2 Grapeshot
3 Lim-Dûl's Vault

4 Autochthon Wurm

1 Badlands
1 Bayou
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
2 Swamp
1 Island

SB: 2 Flusterstorm
SB: 3 Abrupt Decay
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 Leyline of Sanctity
SB: 2 Nature's Claim
SB: 1 Echoing Truth
SB: 1 Dismember
SB: 1 Null Rod

>>49442993
God damn, I never tire of answering this question. You're going to love this. http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?29732-Legacy-Judge-Destroyer-1-0

>>49443010
>http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?29732-Legacy-Judge-Destroyer-1-0
Wow, I feel unclean now

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>>49442810
tfw your deck is bad and loses to removal

>>49443117

That's why you gotta next level them by going into a sideboard plan by bringing in Melira and casting Temur Battle Rage.

NEXT
LEVEL

>>49431400
HAVE LOTS OF EXPENDABLE INCOME WHEN GOING TO GP.
You'll have a wonderful opportunity to get lots of deals if paying cash. I made the mistake of only planning on main event and 2 sides, and I missed the chance to pick up all kinds of unsorted rare bin cards and priced-to-move cards rotating out of standard and things that are priced "Moderately played" but look amazing (a couple even signed...).

>>49442993
>>49443010

When I saw it in the flow chart I had to google it. God damn, I can just imagine some neckbeard cackling manically when he pulls that combo off at a tournament.

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>>49442810

Here's the old one for comparison.

Hm. I'm not sure what to say, I kinda like the humor in this one a bit more (the jokes are just delivered a little more "punchy") and the color choice is kind of searing (also I think "Maverick" is colored wrong if you were trying to keep all decks colored Blue). But I certainly appreciate the update in the types of decks.

>>49443265

*eye-searing

>>49443265
There are three deck blobs that aren't blue. Lich, maverick and lands. I think lich deserves it's puke-yellow assignment but I can't speak for the others.

>>49442945
The lich deck is the best and you should buy it in paper without testing it.

Maybe an anon can help me here...

I'm trying to order from TCGPlayer for the first time and it's OK but the price keeps changing rapidly, there's really stupid allocation of cards that don't make sense and drive up shipping prices, sometimes it removes cards from my card. It's just fucking madness. What am I doing wrong?

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>>49443717
Got a guide on how to play it?

>>49443748
There's a check box somewhere that calls for "cart optimizer" or some such. Uncheck that box.

>>49438315
>>49438243
>3x Rite of Flame, Boros Reckoner, Madcap Experiment t1
no artifacts in the deck

>>49444130
What would that accomplish

>>49444389
I forgot about Pariah.
Excuse me, I'm going to go and find the nearest pile of snakes.

>>49444389
You missed the Pariah mention.

>>49443772
Find a luck plus either zuran orb or nourishing shoal and autochthon wurm. Draw a jilliion cards, cast some lotus petals and rituals and double grapeshot them. Or you could get on the sickening dreams tech.

>>49444561
A lich, not a luck

>>49444587
Gotta be pretty lucky to draw that combo naturally

>>49444536
>>49444538
Alright now I get it. Welp guess I'm making a memeing combo control deck.

>>49440216
As a five card combo kill transformational board it's pretty strong. Possibly in Sneak and Show, Miracles, or another deck running red and 5 or less artifacts.

You can bring it in against Abrupt Decay and Bolt decks, its likely a win against Elves, Delver, Burn, ANT and anything else which can't remove it, and a gigantic headache for Shardless.

Alright so i'm practicing TES(The Epic Storm) and my opening hand is this:

Burning Wish, Infernal Tutor, Chrome Mox, Gitaxian Probe, Dark Ritual, Rite of Flame, Bloodstained Mire.

I'm on the draw and I choose to keep. Am I wrong on this and should have mulled? If you also kept what would be your opening line?

I made a casual lightform cloudform deck. I brainstorm on on their end of turn 2 to put brago or eater of days on top to manifest out my turn 3. eater of days for surprise 9/8 flying trampler attacking on turn 4. brago to blink the forms, deflector mages, detention spheres and the morphs if they are worth blinking. I also run familiars ruses to bounce back my counterspells or removals if I manifested some. It's surprisingly fun to pilot despite making it on a whim.

>>49446347
It seems alright, 1 mana off getting Goblins. Lead with Bloodstained Mire, wait a turn on the Probe to increase your chance of hitting mana

>>49446373

I figured I could use the Chrome Mox for mana if I was ever in a pinch but otherwise I could easily storm for about 5-6 and get Warrens.

>>49442810
TES doesn't play white/Silence anymore.

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>>49441684
It's decided, already booked the weekend off work; though I might end up changing my mind regarding deck choice, I'm definitely going now. Since neither of us know what the other looks like (I assume), I'll have pic related as a playmat, feel free to say something (or not) if we get paired.

>>49446476
Depending on what you draw, you definitely use the Chrome Mox for mana, probably pitching the Infernal

>>49442810
I disagree about Tezzerator being an unfair deck. You're just playing Chalice, Bridge and winning through Tezzeret or thopters.

>>49446347
It really depends on what you draw. If it's mana (ritual or artifact), I would go for it after probing. You can either get Goblins or Ad Nauseam. If it's a draw spell, cast it. Anything else, wait.

>>49446347
If you hit a 6th mana you can do 12+ goblins t1, if you hit another dark rit/rite/LED you can go off via Nauseam. Probe gives you the go ahead or stop if they have something cancerous like maindeck EE/their 1-of Maelstrom Pulse. If the hand was missing the second ritual or Dark Ritual I'd probably mull given there's not a Ponder or Brainstorm.

>>49446831
Why mulligan? You don't need anything else, around half your deck gets you there by turn 2. If they have force, you wish off chrome Mox then make them force a ritual.

>>49446913
To even come close to going off without Dark Ritual in opener you need to draw one or a second rite/LED/cantrip that finds at least one of the former, how is that half the deck and why would they counter a ritual, given you can at worst empty for 8 without 7+ mana?

>>49447107
And they can just counter the wish.

>>49447107
The hand makes 5 mana, you need to draw a petal, rit, rite or LED (quarter of the deck) in your top 2 to go for a pile of goblins.

If you see a Force, you go Fetch, Mox burning wish, pass turn. You end up with three draws at land, LED, petal, rit, rite or chrome mox. That's about 30/53.

If they counter the wish, you're still any business spell off having a solid hand. If they don't, you have empty in hand which makes them force your first ritual to prevent you from making a pile of goblins.

If you lead with Rite or Rit on turn 2, you can drop a land and make 4 goblins at the worst. You're fairly likely to be able to make 6-8, so they have to force to prevent you from creating a t2 horde. would probably hold the probe for a turn, I don't think you get much out of the information and the storm count is very relevant.

You only need one piece to be solid in any case, this hand is absolutely keepable OTD

>>49447175
Makes sense, I'd hesitate to wish for Empty on a turn I'm not going off on though since discard/Clique is a factor on turn 3 and Goblins that aren't a 2 turn clock without Cabal Therapy backup are answered fairly easily by just about any deck, even by just dropping DRS DRS goyf/Thalia+Mom or something. If you mull to six odds are you have lots more mana than your 7 did and odds of drawing business by turn 2 aren't too low. You usually want all your Chrome Moxen and Lotus Petals to be in the deck when you Ad Nauseam.

>>49442810
The humour still feels a bit forced in places, I think you need to stop copying the original. This part really stands out to me:

>Do you want to go to time and then drag out your next 5 turns?
Hell yes
>Do you want your opponents to know how much you hate them?

It just doesn't work.

>>49441227
Go full jank and run stifle so you can tutor phyrexian dreadnought with intuition as a wincon. Also lets you counter DRS activations targeting whatever fatty you're welding

>>49447214
It's true that your 6 might be pretty good, but I don't think you need to mulligan a 7 with mana and business for a 6 that might. Double business even lets you play through one counter, I think that's going to be significantly better than an average 7 card hand. You can even just infernal for rit on turn 1 if you want to.

I don't think this is an AN hand. Dropping 8-10 goblins turn 2 races most decks well enough, and this hand is reasonably likely to get it t1

>>49446647
I'll be playing Mono-red skred and have a godless shrine playmate. If that helps

>>49447611
Figures you'd play a deck with a favourable infect match-up from the maindeck blood moons and chalices. Good luck and see you if I see you.

>>49447689
It's a modern GP I don't think I can use chalice. it's not till February but none the less good luck

>>49447702
Unless it eats a banning, chalice is legal in modern. It's even arguably better in modern due to more decks relying on 1-drops; turn 1 SSG chalice is basically gg for most decks, especially aggro.

>>49447702
>>49447740
Wait, never mind, I'm an idiot, it turns off your own bolts and skred. I think I got confused from skimming over someone on twitch playing basic snow mountains and chalice turn 1 off a spirit guide and I just assumed it was mono-red skred.

>>49444708
Im the original memer and i never considered trying to make it work in legacy because its a wonky format for me. I was going to use mistveil plains and a single mind stone but would decking yourself failing to find an artifact achive the pariah burn I desperately want?

>>49448075
I was gonna do a modern one and stick a single mindstone and then a platinum empereon or some other jank

>>49430093
The deck is actually pretty easy. Dfiscard GGT/Phantasmagorian, dredge a bunch, sac some narcos, win

>>49430093
>>49449810
He's not wrong, you know.

Man i'm really learning quite a bit about TES from you guys.

why is this general so obsessed with flowcharts? they only make sense to the autists making them

>>49450320
You've inadvertently hit on the answer to your question.

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Anyone know where I can find 10 German Ice Age Plains #343? The only ones I ever find in bulk are German 3rd fbb

>>49450320
:(

>>49450546
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/ice-age/plains-343

>>49451251
0 in stock. None on SCG or eBay either.

>>49451279
MCM has some, though not 10 and shipping would probably be an arm and a leg.

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>>49451251
>>49451279
>>49451341

Ah, the old "I want a bunch of highly specific basics that I just can't seem to find anywhere" conundrum.

I can't justify the expense of shipping a bunch of these from Japan right now, but I'm highly fond of the Coldsnap japanese misprinted Islands

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>>49451505
I'm quite partial to the old bordered arena lands, Rob Alexander probably draws the best basics in my opinion. Shame he didn't do many old bordered Islands though, I would kill for some Masques Islands and Plains by him, mostly for my autism so I could have matching expansion symbols.

>>49451651
I like Rob Alexander lands, I just cant stand foils or the giant mana symbol. I'm also trying to German out DnT, so I need good pre-sixth edition lands.

>>49451697
I might just get Beta basics, but Im torn between Beta A and Beta B

>>49451651
I have just one Arena Ice Age Island, and it's probably one of the prettiest I own IRL. I guess I just really like Ice Age though.

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>>49451651
>Rob Alexander
Excellent taste, anon

>>49450320
But it's _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________fun.

>>49442810
TES needs to be corrected. It's pretty solidly grixis colored. ANT has only the barest splash for past in flames and and green for sideboard options and can be considered two colored.

>>49449712
I figured two artifacts would ruin the kill potential, I've got a rough list almost worked out that isnt ready for testing. Im going to post it in the modern general, once I've gotten something more solid. I just think the empereon is too memey and was going to go with soulfire grandmasters as my backup plan. They let you play counters in the sideboard for that extra spice.

>>49451760
Beta C arena promos faggot.

Shitbrew time?

4x Madcap Experiment
2x Platinum Emperion
2x Magus of the Moon
3x Bloodmoon
3x Snapcaster Mage
4x Simian Spirit Guide
4x Lotus Petal
4x Brainstorm
4x Ponder
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Daze
3x Gitaxian Probe
4x Ancient Tomb
2x City of Traitors
4x Scalding Tarn
3x Polluted Delta
3x Volcanic Island
3x Island
1x Mountain

>>49453940
Take out the Lotus Petals.

>>49453956
How do you feel about spell pierce to help protect the emperion?

>>49453940
What do you do if you don't draw Madcap Experiment? What do you do if they have a Plow?

I like the idea, but you need more threats.

>>49453981
Why not just 4 Forces? Although I would probably use something to give the Emperion Trample and Hexproof. Otherwise, you can be stalled long enough for most decks to get some answer.

>>49454004
pray you brainstorm/ponder into madcap

pray you bloodmoon and they have no basics

It's called a shitbrew for a reason, but it could definitely be a lot better.

>>49454016
Not enough blue cards to reliably FoW

>>49454004
It might be best to just play Sneak and Show plus Madcap/Emp.

>>49454016
>>49454026
wait there totally is, into the deck it goes over lotus petal.

>>49448008
Snow is a supertype, dude, just like basic is.

In other words, I'm pretty sure that if a land, even a non-basic land, is snow, it's going to be snow regardless of what happens to it (with the obvious exception of Arcum's Weathervane).

>>49454026
Yeah, I just realized that. Spell Pierce sounds good, but I feel like you'd want some Hexproof aura (since Lightning Greaves are a bad idea). Or just play Sneak and Show, like I said. Stompy without Chalice/Trinisphere seems too bad.

>>49454033
My idea was to run Madcap+Plat in the sideboard of Sneak and Show, Im just not sure the deck needs it.

I'd love it as a finisher in some deck. possibly Nic Fit?

>>49454089
What about UR Standstill? It fits in nicely right before a Standstill, and you could also add Shape Anew to make the Factories into Emperion.

>>49454110
Thats a good idea, you'll have actual disruption. What would your list look like?

>>49454142
I honestly don't know, I've never played Standstill, but I guess something like this could work:

1 [KTK] Flooded Strand
1 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
1 [CS] Snow-Covered Mountain
1 [KTK] Wooded Foothills
2 [C13] Faerie Conclave
2 [CS] Snow-Covered Island
4 [4E] Mishra's Factory
4 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
4 [R] Volcanic Island
4 [TE] Wasteland
3 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
1 [WWK] Jace, the Mind Sculptor
3 [OD] Standstill
2 [7E] Counterspell
3 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
3 [TSP] Sudden Shock
4 [C15] Brainstorm
4 [AL] Force of Will
4 [M11] Lightning Bolt
4 [CNS] Stifle
2 Platinum Emperion
3 Madcap Experiment

>>49451505
I don't read Japanese. What is the misprint?

>>49443265
Still the superior version.
Also, four horsemen is a much better punchline than fucking judge destroyer.

>>49455367
But four horsemen is a different deck, no?

>>49420507
Can someone explain to me the win conditions for Parfait? I'm fairly new to legacy and the sort (I've been playing kitchen table Magic since 2003-ish and just now gotten really "into" it) and I have always loved White as a color (angels, soldiers, knights, enchantments etc), so I wanted to try my hands on a legacy white deck

Like, I get the whole synergy with Scroll Rack and Land Tax (which is amazing and so much fun) but how do I like...win? I've tried Charbelcher as a win condition but I got fucked by my own Wastelands, so I almost considered dropping them (might be a bad idea)

Sorry for being a retard, but it would have been nice with some help on how to pilot it

>>49455644
Yes, and the joke isn't so in your face.

>>49455367
Four Horsemen is a defunct deck that has been ruled slow play too many times for people to use.

>>49455731

Have Rest In Peace out, then Helm of Obedience to mill them to death. Charbelcher is a backup strategy. Alternatively: Stuffy Doll/Guilty Conscience combo is a way to win. Alternatively: Sigil of the Empty Thorne/Luminarch Ascension to beat face with tokens.

>>49454054
he was talking about chalice turning off skred. you can't cast a 1 cmc spell if you're playing chalice on 1.

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>>49420507
>>Playing?
death & taxes
>>Testing?
optimal number of recruiters and eldrazi displacers
>>BDIF/Favorite deck in format?
letmetellyouaboutmywaifu.pdf
>>Describe your ten-step process to performing the perfect brainstorm.
step 1. point to thalia
step 2. activate aether vial on 2 with brainstorm on the stack
step 3. place spirit of the labyrinth onto the battlefield
step 4. smirk
step 5. when removal is used, point to thalia again
step 6. activate mother of runes, target spirit of the labyrinth and hold priority
step 7. activate aether vial on 3 in response to mother of runes
step 8. place flickerwisp on the battlefield, trigger target your fetchland
step 9. flash aven mindcensor in response to fetch activation
step 10. allow the stack to resolve

there you have it: the perfect brainstorm!

>>49456182
You forgot to say, "psh, nothing personal, kid."

>>49456182
This makes me fucking sick. I hope you feel happy with yourself, all he wanted to do was cast Brainstorm.

>>49452100

TES could be argued that it's 4 colours. It splashes for G in the side with a Bayou for Abrupt Decay and sometimes Xantid Swarm. I mean sure it no longer runs white but it's still using G somewhere.

>>49456275
As a DnT player, I do enjoy kicking the poor brainstorm players when they're down. "Pillar of the format" they say. "Skill testing card" they say.

If they aren't going to ban brainstorm, I'll be here making it a bad card myself.

>>49456182
>>49456737
I like you fellas, keep up the good work. But do it away from me

>>49456273
personnel*

>>49456182
My perfect Brainstorm is similar, but involves Chains of Mephistopheles and a lot of the steps are replaced with repeatedly explaining how Chains of Mephistopheles works.

>>49457310
Have you ever had someone cast an enter the infinite into a chains?

>>49444561
Using the Sickening Dreams wincon has been pretty sweet for me. It lets you float all the mana off of rituals and burn your lotus petals for U instead of R if you need to dig harder for the second shoal or an orb or whatever.

>>49457394
it can also function as a board wipe in a pinch. throw away an extra land or lich to kill some thalias or whatever. I'm probably going to switch over to it.

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Ran across a live auction about 5 hours away while browsing Craigslist that seemed to have several Alpha/Beta moxen hiding in the middle of hundreds of pics of old toys. I called up the company running this auction and the guy who picked up said that everything except the Middle Ages stuff in pic related was fake/proxies.
Any chance he's lying to keep people from showing up? He said he'd been fielding questions about this lot all day.

>>49455760
But..... it's a shit joke, no? I mean the judge destroyer is at least hilarious deck while four horsemen is not.

>>49457460
My concern is double counterspell, like FoW with Spell Pierce backup or something silly like that. The Storm combo is harder to pull off but it's more reliable. I don't know, I'm going to playtest Sickening Dreams.

>>49457714
I think if you have enough cards in hand to sickening dreams for the kill you'd have enough gas to thoughtseize 1 or 2 times. my issue with grapeshot was that you so frequently needed to cast both grapeshots. The right spell to counter would be Lich or Shoal anyway.

>>49457609
How much are they going for? If they're cheap, get them and get them examined.

>>49458964
It's an old-school live, public auction, so they don't really have a price right now. I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth the 5-hour drive starting at 2am to get there.

>>49459200
What else would you be doing with your time? I'd advise against it, though.

>>49459207
Sleeping.
That's probably for the best. I'm sure the guy wouldn't put the reputation of his company on the line by lying about the moxen to everyone calling.

To contribute something on-topic to the thread, though, has anyone considered Voltaic Brawler in RUG Delver? The standard for 2-drop quality in that deck is Goyf, and Brawler's more color-heavy, but you get value from removal'd Brawlers by having more energy left for your other copies.

>>49459370
Brawler doesn't have the long game potential of a Goyf, though.

>>49459370

>I'm sure the guy wouldn't put the reputation of his company on the line by lying about the moxen to everyone calling.

Wouldn't trust them. Go for yourself and see because if it does turn out to be legit then you missed a big opportunity. If it turns out to not be legit then all you've really wasted is some time.

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>>49455298
It's the art from Snow-Covered Island instead of this art.

The misprint isn't exclusively Japanese though, it also happened in the English version, not sure about the other languages.

How would you balance brainstorm?

>>49460568
You can't, it's either amazing or shit

>>49460568
I would balance it by printing cards for Hatebear or Stompy strategies. Chalice of the Void is probably the best designed card for balancing Brainstorm.

>>49460618
How playable would one be at two mana, or the same effect without the draw?

>>49460715
>How playable would one be at two mana
Playable, printable in standard very easily if it wasn't for modern.
>or the same effect without the draw?
Drawing 3 putting 3 cards back makes more sense, making it 2 & 2 makes it just worse than careful study, which already doesn't see play except for heavy graveyard decks.

>>49460715
>put two cards from hand on top of your library.
I'm guessing not very playable.

>>49460802
I think he meant with 1 less draw so it wouldn't replace itself.

>>49460822
yeah, I was just kidding
it's not very playable in Pauper without fetches, but there aren't as many combo decks there and the disruption is also lacking. To fix Brainstorm make it sorcery speed like most of cantips, except then it sucks.

>>49460885
Probably 85% of my Brainstorms are done at sorcery speed.

The card isn't inherently busted, it just forces you to have a really good reason not to play it

>>49455928
Ah, okay. My bad.

>>49460568
It's already balanced.

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>>49460568
Ban Fetches, but fuck that, Brainstorm is close to my favourite card.

I fail to see a problem with brainstorm. It's a powerful card in a sea of powerful cards.

>>49455367
Four horsemen isn't tournament legal. Playing the deck will get you DQ'd for slow play from executing loops without a clear purpose.

>>49455731
Rest in Piece will make Helm of Obedience mill your opponent's entire library on one activation, in case you didn't realize.

>>49455731
after you removed lands with tax, Charbelcher becomes that much more deadly also.

Gonna be putting in some blue stuff for a Win-A-Dual tomorrow, how do people think this list looks
4x GGT
4x Stinkweed Imp
4x Golgari Thug
2x Shambling Shell
4x Cabal Therapy
3x Dread Return
4x Gitaxian Probe
4x Nether Shadow
4x Ichorid
4x Prized Amalgam
4x Bridge From Below
4x Narcomoeba
1x Flayer of the Hatebound
4x Phantasmagorian
4x Street Wraith
3x FoW
3x Whirlpool Rider

Sideboard:
1x FoW
3x Disrupting Shoal
3x Contagion
3x Faerie Macabre
3x Unmask
2x Mindbreak Trap

>>49463195
I think you're a little light on 1 drops for disrupting shoal, but I don't know what else you could put in and stay manaless.

>>49463195
I don't really know enough to help, but good luck man! let us know how it goes.

>>49463195
not like Lich

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Fuck it.
Fuck playing blue cards.
Let's do this.
inb4 someone points out the Probes, Amalgams, Narcomoebas, Mindbreak Traps and Progenitus

>>49463920
You never spend blue to cast them so it's ok

>>49464501
I mean, he wouldn't spend blue to cast force or shoal either

>>49460568

I'm just glad Brainstorm is cheap. It gives a lot more stability to my janky decks like 12post.

>>49463195
I've been telling you, Gitaxian Probe is FREE information! FREE!

>>49465055
All my decks are 64 card decks with 4x Gitaxian Probe standard. Best deck building decision I've ever made, free Intel, triggers things, never a dead draw.

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>>49465168
Can't tell if serious or not. I'm intrigued to try this.

>>49465168
>not running superior 56 card deck plus 4 Probes

>>49465540
If you change your mindset to start every game with 12 hp it makes sense

>>49465168
I run 4 Probes, 8 Baubles, and 4 Street Wraths wherever it's legal, effectively playing a 44 card deck which makes it almost Limited Tier. At this point I just need 4 more cards to break all formats in half.

>>49466421
What do you do if someone plays a chalice or thalia? Do you keep a 7 card hand with 4-5 draw effects?

>>49466345
>Life totals? Please nigga, I play Lich. Where we're going we don't need life totals!
~DDFT Guy, probably

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>>49466421

>Thalia bursts in the door

STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM

>>49466680
If I have 1 life I'm fine. I could start the game with 2 life and I would still play if I was confident enough in my deck. hell I just won an edh game without losing a single lifepoint and it wasnt a combo deck.

>>49463195
I'd put all the FoWs to side and play mb Chancellor of the Annex x 3-4, since t1 DRS is the only thing you need to care about pre-board. Mindbreak is fairly useless imo since you'll fold to Belcher even without and ANT rarely goes off before turn 3, at which point you'll be firing away with Cabal Therapy.

>>49467439
even with it*

>>49466680
Implying this doesn't also apply to DDFT. I'm a masochist, what can I say.

>>49467766
need to have at least 2 to cast doomsday, more if your pile involves probe

>>49467965
Yes I suppose you need a little bit of life. But really 2 is all you need.

>>49442810
>How about fuck off!!
>man after my heart

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>tfw im buying 7 more Judge Mountains
Someone send help

>>49469404
I do not understand the appeal of full art lands.

>>49469460
The judge basics are among the best basics in the game. Full art but simple and not stupid looking like the Zen/BfZ full arts. I love the art by Terese Nielsen and if you own all of them they make a panorama.

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3-0 at the shop tonight for 32 in store creds

2-0 miracles
2-1 lands
2-1 miracles

recruiter is the business and sanctum prelate is very good as well. prelate on 1, flicker recruiter, trigger tutor and vial in another prelate on 6 just fucks miracles up. prelate on 2 fucks lands right up as well.

>>49469481
I just kind of associate them with Unglued instinctively, and thus, with not being real magic cards.

>>49469755
congrats fampie. I'm envious of your legacy scene that fires weekly events.

>>49470002
>>49469755
I am also super jealous. My legacy scene went underwater and I haven't played sanctioned legacy in what feels like a year.

>>49470002
i really feel like it was 4 rounds, but i only remember playing those three matches.

>>49470203
As I recall your legacy scene literally went underwater, right?
>>49470002
My lgs is hosting its first legacy fnm tomorrow night. I'm stoked.

>>49470629
>My lgs is hosting its first legacy fnm tomorrow night. I'm stoked.
ill strongly consider showing up if its in michigan, f@m

>>49470629
Yes, we have been hanging out at a different store and I've been pestering them about vintage and legacy tournaments. They are pretty cool, it's just not close enough for some of the regulars from the other shop (never mind that I drove an hour to go there 3+ times a week).

Went 2-1 then took down the finals with Death and Taxes

Round 1: Canadian Threshold - 2-0
Game 1 I land double Thalia and kill him before he lands a creature. Vial bluffing eats a couple stifles for value.
Game 2 I keep double Stoneforge Rest in Peace, he has no counters for either so I end up with a Batterskull and Jitte. He goes to grudge the Batterskull and I save it with a Flickerwisp. He concedes with a 1/1 Goose and 2 lands in play.

Round 2, I face down Oops All Spells.
Game 1, he keeps a 7 that goes off turn 1, and I lose.
Game 2, I board in 12 cards. He goes off turn one, but has one narcomeoba in hand so I plow one of them and he scoops.
Game 3, He goes off turn 1 and I lose.

Round 3, I face Mono-Red Sneak attack.
Game 1, he goes turn one Chalice 1 Chalice 0. I kept a hand full of 2 drops and a Karakas, and win quickly.
Game 2, He gets turn 1 sneak attack emrakul into griselbrand. I lose
Game 3, Revoker on Sneak Attack and Thalia 2.0 shut down most of his game. He Breaches in a Worldspine, but 3 5/5's cant beat a Thalia with a SoFi

Cut to top 2, play against Oops again.
Game 1: He mulls to five, I have turn 2 Thalia turn 3 Revoker on Azami and he scoops.
Game 2, he mulls to five. I have turn 2 Rest in Peace and he scoops.

All in all a good FNM, DnT is fun as shit to play.

>>49469404
the mountain in the foreground looks like literal turds. Boo, Nielsen.

>>49470718
Nah it's New England. Sorry senpai.

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>>49443117

It's alright, they're just jealous of our counting to 10 skills

>>49473294
>triggered

>>49455731
Charbelcher only works in builds where there are no nonbasic lands, or Plateaus are the only nonbasics. You shouldn't run it in mono white with Karakas/Wasteland/Kjeldoran Outpost/Crystal Vein/etc

>>49469755
Prelate is great against Lands, Miracles and Delver, but I still can't maindeck more than maybe 1 because it's just a grey ogre against so many decks

>>49474772
How do you find it to be against storm? does it just come down too late to be relevant?

>>49470718
Ann Arbor's Get Your Game On is really great. Huge Modern scene and budding Legacy.

Alright guys, shit tournament report coming up

Round 1 vs a friend of mine on BURG Delver, g1 he gets t2 DRS, g2 he plays a T1 cage. 0-1.
Round 2 vs BRg reanimator, he Elesh Norns me both games, I actually can't beat that. 0-2.
Round 3 vs Infect. Therapy is a good card, I combo off turn 3-4 both games. 1-2.
Round 4 vs UR Delver. Game 1 I combo off, game 2 he plays t1 cage. Game 3 he mulls to 3 looking for Cage, I combo off turn 3. 2-2.
Round 5, I get paired down vs ANT. Game 1 I combo'd off faster (Therapy is a good card), game 2 he combos off turn 2. Game 3 he combos off faster, but he gives me the win because I have a chance of making topcut and he doesn't. 3-2.

Ended up 6th, missing out on top 4 by 9% OMW.
I think the top 4 was UR Delver, Death And Staxes, Sneak N Show, and the 2nd BRg Reanimator player.

>>49476185
Seems alright, regarding the Grixis/4-color Delver matchup, was T2 DRS enough to hate you out? It seems like it would be quite overworked by that time?

The BR reanimator is actually pretty decent now, made 2nd at a large event in Paris recently. If I had four Badlands, I'd might consider playing it myself, although I'd probably miss my Brainstorms too much.

Just ordered 2 more FoW (the old ones so as to match the 2 old ones I already had), 4 wastelands, and a snapcaster mage.

>muh wallet

Deck is UR Delver, but these are staples I need to have in general.

>>49472675
Id like to see you draw better then her

>>49476270
I find the BR reanimator deck more frustrating. They have more nut draws. When you lose I lose it often feels like it was because of luck, like they nut drew and reanimated chancellor of the annex turn 1 both games

>>49476306
On this point, how is it possibly to have started in Tempest and yet never cracked a single Wasteland (plenty of fucking lobotomies though). My brother had one, but its not in the pile of cards I have currently.

Same deal with Darksteel. Full playset of Clamps, no Aether Vial.

Motherfucking Uncommons, how do they work?

>>49476306
Not a bad time to get those, with the exception of snappy maybe, but as you say, you need them anyways.

>>49476326
BR is much more geared towards explosiveness: more creatures, more reanimation spells, more mana acceleration. T1-2 is where they're at, but if you can subdue the first wave, they're less able to go long.

>>49476185
Funnily enough, with Chancellor, chances are even Force of Will wouldn't have helped you. I guess you should've ran some lands :^)

>>49474772
i like 2, because drawing one in your opener is generally ok and you have tutors now to find (another) one if you want it.

>>49475252
i haven't used it firsthand because storm guy hasn't shown in a while, but 2 and 4 seem safest to lock out tutor and tendrils.

>>49476434
Preboard vs unknown storm variant 4 is the best choice.
Vs TES it's always 2, not by a huge margin but enough.
Vs ANT preboard 4 is correct, postboard it's 2 or depending what info you have on the opponents hand

>>49476384
Yeah, I'd be shocked if Snapcaster wasn't in Modern Masters 3. But I don't need playset of him, so I'll live.

>>49476270
>>49476270
>>49476270
It was backed up by Delver/Mongoose beats, and I whiffed on a dredge at some point. Didn't have any probes/wraiths.

Took a while to respond because 4chan banned me for no reason.

>>49476557
We all know Kikes of the Coast isn't going to give us anything good in MM3. It'll be Mythic Goyf and Literal Trash for everything else and people will still buy 20 boxes.

>>49475252
I've found it to be too slow to rely on. If The only disruption I have in an 7 card opener is Prelate, I'll probably ship the hand.

>>49476434
I like having 2 in the board. How many matchups do you find it being bad in? I took them out of the main because to me, they're very medium vs Shardless, Infect, Eldrazi, the Mirror and the non-P Fire Rock decks. It felt like I don't want it in more than 50% of my matchups, so I'm between a 1/1 or a 0/2 split

>>49476943
>>Hiroyuki confirmed for being MaRo

>>49476185
Are you running Chancellor of the Annex off the board?

>>49476553
I feel like it's more based on your board then their hand, i.e. sometimes you protect Prelate and sometimes Prelate protects your harder lock pieces.

>>49476185
sucks being so close to the cut, but 3-2s not awful. did they at least have prizes to top8?

>>49476344

I had this same problem with Aether Vials, I was even drafting a lot at the time, but when I eventually needed them a few years later I only had 2...I did have tons of Tops though. Uncommons in third sets of a block are even more brutal

>>49476344
Different uncommons have different distributions. I may be wrong, but I believe Wasteland and Vial may have been U1 uncommons.

>>49472675
>Booing one of the best artists to work for Magic
Boy shes been drawing cards longer then you've probably been alive

Real dilemma here; do I pick up regular Gideon, AoZ's or do I shell out the extra dough for the SDCC Zombie version?

>>49477974
Comic Con, hands down. Go big or go home.

>>49476344
I only opened a few packs of Tempest and Darksteel each but got 2 Wasteland and 2 Aether Vial.

Don't fall for the U1 meme, that's like Mana Drain and shit back when such things were actually done.

>>49479272
I think Fallen Empires was the last set to have those designations?

>>49479272
Well I didn't pull any Vials either, and I do have several packs of Darksteel (not as many as Mirrodin, but still). It just happens, I guess, even though I sometimes feel I definitely have fewer "good" rares. On the other hand, I have 3 of each shock from Guildpact, but only one from Ravnica and zero from Dissension. And I bought a display of Ravnica back then.

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Is there any deck where i can play my card waifu?
Im thinking Miracles