Sups get's into the 30k universe in the midst of the great

He's just one man. On a galactic scale, almost nothing changes.

Is he immune to psychic power shenanigans?

>>49401316
he gets mindraped immedately

>>49401331
Yeah, but one man could change everything in 40k, especially with sups abilities. I mean look at lorgar, even that pathetic faggot have managged to fuck up a lot of things.

>>49401345

Depends who is writing him that day

>>49401356

Only if he went full Red Son and created his own state and military with him as a leader. Which is very much against standard Supes usual ethos (which is why Red Son was such an interesting comic.)

>>49401369
He could be discovered by the emperor as 19th primarch and given his own legion.

>>49401331
Horus was just 'one man'. If he died before the Heresy reached Earth, the Emperor wouldn't be placed on the Golden Throne. That changes everything.

Question is if Supes could pull that off.

>>49401384

No chance. He looks human but he's a Xenos.

>>49401316
He can bench press several times Earth's mass, scorch the surface of entire planets with his heath vision, fly somehow several times faster than light and has tanked basically anything thrown at him by a universe far more stupidly insane than 30k's. On the other hand, he's ridiculously weak to anything magic, and while it's hard to tell what's magic in 30k, there surely are a lot of things that would screw him.

Probably Emps would get a biological sample to replicate his ridiculous powers and make an army of properly indoctrinated, Warp-resistant hypersoldiers.

>>49401345
No, he's only invulnerable to physical force. Weird things like mind control or turning him into animals are just as effective on Superman as they'd be on anyone else. That said, he does have some impressive willpower and integrity, so if nothing else he'll be able to avoid falling to Chaos.

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>>49401585

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>>49401623
Pre-Crisis Superman could pretty much do whatever the fuck he wanted though

>>49401563
Now I'm just imagining the Horus Heresy suddenly ending when Superman chases down Horus' flagship, then bursts through the bridge. Taking Horus with him when he leaves.

>>49401563
Even inside D&D he would be immune to about 90% of the spellbook, merely of the virtue that spells end up having stat saves.
Its very hard to tell, when the bonus point is that a lot of spells is physical.

>>49401657
>that pic
I've never realised what a horseshit all comixes are untill now.

>>49401466
>Question is if Supes could pull that off.

He wouldn't kill Horus.

He'd give him a hug and everything would be fine.

>>49402557
He would snap his neck without hesitation.

>>49401688
Nah. Kryptonians wouldn't get stat based enhancements to saves like regular folk would. He's as vulnerable to magic as a regular person, so he'd get wrecked.

>>49401316
He'd punch his way through legions of heretics and chaos spawn only to get wrecked by the first psyker and or sorcerer that he ran into.

>>49401361
/thread

>>49402613
>get wrecked by the first psyker and or sorcerer that he ran into.

if they can react at the speed of light maybe

>>49402662
He doesn't move at the speed of light routinely. In most situations, combat or otherwise, he moves much slower.

>>49401316
>what happens next?
Depends on the writer.

>>49402613
Supes is a high level adventurer bruh.

And his con/reflex/will saves must be incredible.

>>49402662
Depends. Supes only does that shit when its REALLY important or necessary, same with killing, as he has that damned subconcious mental block his parents good intentions gave him.
Unless he KNOWS that wave of bullshit flying at him will fuck his ass he'll just sit there and tank it like he usually does.
You can also do shit like sonic attacks which surprisingly his super hearing is incredibly weak to.
He had however PHYSICALLY punched and entire dimension into pieces thus shunting him back to his and willed himself back to life so maybe he could punch apart the warp assuming he knows that its absolutely necessary beyond a doubt, though he'd need a gellar field of some sort.

>>49402613
No nova, beam, or witchfire could hurt him.

He'd only be vulnerable to maledictions. And many of them would suck. Oh no, you've decreased his strength slightly. Now he might not be able to hold an exploding star in one hand.

>>49402770
Well let's count only the decent ones, there isn't many options left: Abnet, ADB, Macnill.

>psykers kill him!

By this logic, every non-psyker special character should be dead.

Marneus has no more protection than Supes, and he's still kicking despite being vastly less powerful. C'tan are vulnerable to warpshit, yet they still wreck the fuck out of psykers.

>>49402802
Unsure. He gets burned by magically conjured fire whereas previously he's napped inside a sun so it doesn't seem to matter if the actual thing becoms physical so long as its base existence stems from magic or psionics. it's why Shazam can kick his ass in a fist fight even if the blows are physical the source of said blows is magic/non-physical.
It's also why the Flash can go faster than him.
Given this, it might actually be possible for a chaos marine to fuck supes up with all their shit assuming its powered by or properly drenched in warp.

>>49402857
We're not saying they'll kick his ass with a single finger (unless he's in the warp sans gellar field) but that they are probably the only people who can actually hurt him. Assuming one lands a hit, that hit would actually hurt supes.

>>49401563
>his heath vision
When could he turn any land into heath again? I guess I missed that issue.

>>49401345

it's pretty much standard that supes routinely loses to supernatural forces in comics. because he's just a really really strong man, who has a lot of physically-based abilities. somehow eye lasers and thermodynamic-headache flight count for this.

>>49402857
>strap superblank wierdo onto supes
>since he's such a swell Guy, he gets along with the blank.

>>49402857
>He gets burned by magically conjured fire

Depends on the writer, but not usually. The 'magical' things that generally effect Superman are things like curses and such. That said, a magic sword that is enchanted to specifically be able to cut through any substance would hurt him. A magic sword that is heated by magic fire, however, would not.

>it's why Shazam can kick his ass in a fist fight

Superman has literally beaten the fuck out of Captain Marvel in 99% of their fights. Captain Marvel can hurt him because he's in the same strength/invulnerability range.

>It's also why the Flash can go faster than him.

Flash can run faster than him because that's his entire thing. He's not magic, he's connected to some sort of cosmic force of motion that supplies infinite goesfast.

>>49403059
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>>49402873

>>49402795
>Noise Marines

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Better question: The Phoenix Five (Cyclops, Namor, Emma Frost, Magik and Colossus imbued with the vast powers of the Phoenix) appear in 30K during the height of the Great Crusade.

What happens next?

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>>49403013
Why do you think italy's having heathland fires?

>>49403151
Everybody loses?

>>49403013
No no, it transforms things into chocolate toffee bars

>>49401585
Superman has at least some resistance to mental domination. Folk have tried it on him a lot so he's trained his mind to block mental intrusion.

It's brought up in this vid (though it had no effect on the fight), which uses post-Crisis Superman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA

>>49403324
Can't remember what it was exactly but he once had a octupus thing attached to him that basically showed him what he most desired. He just sat there blankly as inside his mind he enjoyed a family and life on krypton. Off course he eventually broke free as inconsistencies piled up but if it was a perfect trick he would have just sat in his fortress of solitude forever staring blankly into space.
Tl;dr it depends what kind of mind control. If it's direct mind to mind then it's just a battle between wills. If it's subversion or indirect then it better be perfect.

Makes me wonder what would happen if Doom and supes had a battle of wills.

>>49403151
>Hate the mutant, you say?

Could each one of these guys solo the Emperor?

He gets destroyed with a black hole cannon, or vaporised, or crushed into a single molecule

Isn't Superman only strong when in a star system with a yellow sun? Red suns turn him to a normal human tier, right?

>>49401316
He continues leading Humanity's armies, just like he has been for this entire crusade.

>>49403048
I believe some writers make his powers psychic-based, like with Superboy. Still has the weakness to magic, however.

>>49403690
Depends on the series and/or if his yellow sun fuel tank is topped off.

>>49403670
Superman has literally flown through black holes. It's like a cleansing bath for him.

>>49403458
That was For the Man Who Has Everything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_Man_Who_Has_Everything

The "octopus thing" was actually a plant called Black Mercy. And I believe in both versions Superman didn't actually break free himself, Batman actually had to pry it off him (though it eventually just got stuck on him too).

As far as battle of wills goes, hard to say. Supes is Supes, but Doomsday is basically no more than an animal, a pure killing machine.

>>49403779
Nooo. I meant DOCTOR Doom. The dude who can stare Purple Man in the face and tell him to fuck off. I'm not even sure supes can do that.

>>49403809
Oh. Yeah, I think Doom would win then. Supes can't even fight off Poison Ivy's stuff if he's brought down to normal. Heck, I think he might lose to Lex. Of course, we're also getting into powerlevels here, in which case the answer is whatever the writer wants it to be.

>>49401811
>comixes
G-gollum?

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>>49401811
It was the Silver Age. Nearly every comic back then was basically just click bait. They would have covers with improbable situations in order to get people to buy the issue out of curiosity. This is a pretty good explanation.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuperDickery

>>49401316
He fights the Imperium because it's a dogmatic, tyrannical dictatorship
He fights the Orks because all they do is stomp around breaking shit and killing people purely for fun
He fights Chaos because it's fucking Chaos
He fights the Tyranids because they want to eat everything
He might ignore the Eldar, depending on whether they do anything to antagonize him
He'd fight the Dark Eldar because they're BDSM space elves
He might ally with the Tau briefly, until he learns about what the Ethereals actually do

In short, he'd be enemies with damn near everyone.

>>49404411
How would he feel about the necrons who have legitimate right by conquest to their planetary systems

>>49404916
I highly doubt that. I think he would feel pity for their lot in life, but I'm pretty sure he would oppose waging war on the living.

>>49403050
Supes loves non-normie types like mutants and such as he feels for their apprehension and anxiety about society and life as a whole being different from the rest. He'd fucking love that blank like a fucking son once he finds out they have a field that literally makes others ostracize him. Only issue i see would be the fact the blank's still human and the G's supes pulls during basic anything, if he's not taking massive fucking kinetic energy or acid or some shit, would simply liquify the poor guy.

>>49403653
Physically speaking some of them might, but I don't know how strong a Emperor's mind powers compared to Phoenix Emma for example.

Supes isnt immune to magic but that doesnt mean hes weak to it. You can't mind fuck him because he's has too strong a will and has trained for it. At one point specter said he had the strongest will in the universe, he has also broken green Lantern constructs before. He's still strong, he can tank magic on the sole fact that hes a tough motherfucker. Magic fire balls might hurt him a lil but it wont kill him because hes fucking tough. Super DC COMICS level magic can fuck him up but nobody in 40k is that ridiculous. And if they are then he'll just get stronger to compensate because he's the fucking hero.


tl;dr Depends on the writer but supes can't stay dead

>>49404411
>he'd fight the imperium
and get swiftly crushed by a Primarch

>>49406609
How? Can primarchs destroy entire dimensions using only physical blows? Do they inherently have magical or magic imbued attacks? Can they move at the speed of light? Breathe in a vacuum?
The issue here is the supes is fucking OP even by his universes standards and theres plenty of shit in DC that would easily blink 40k out of existence as they are legitimate gods with actual god powers like death aspects that let them just drop people whenever and wherever no limits or time aspects that not only let them stop time but erase events from time again with no limits. Supes has fought both of these and won just using his fists and will to live, primarchs die to fucking swords.

>>49406932
supes is just a dude with powers, Primarchs are dudes the emperor created with help from literal gods

therefore they have more plot armour

>>49401316
I assume you mean Nu-52. The Imperium might consider him a Xeno. I doubt they can eliminate him without extreme effort though.

>>49406932
>Do they inherently have magical or magic imbued attacks?
Some do, yes. Magnus the Red in particular is basically a powerful sorcerer.

>>49406991
The issue is the gods in 40k aren't actually gods by DC standards. They're just dudes who can only do shit in one specific dimension. Supermans taken on actual full blown gods that have legitimate supreme control in the universe they fought in and he's won. He basically told death to fuck off and made time unerase his birth. This just means that the emperor who couldn't fuck up one minor godish type being wouldn't stand a chance let alone lesser specimens such as the creations of the emperor. Again, the primarchs AND emps have been hurt/killed by far lesser physical means. Supes has tanked a punch from an entirely seperate reality and lived to tell the tale unscathed.

It's just as unfair a fight as i OP said "The Culture in 40k what do?"

>>49407087
He might stand some sort of chance assuming he can move faster than the speed of light and is physically incapable of dying. Then it would just come down to whoever can fisticuffs better.

>>49401316
Which Superman?

Gotta remember that Superman is actually a very long running series with many iterations and universes.

There's no one defining Superman. There's plenty of Supermen that aren't any stronger than humans.

>>49407153
Lets just be like OP and and go full retard with Cosmic Armored Superman Super-Guardian to the Multiverse.
I'll also accept silver age pre-crisis superman or superman prime.

>>49401316

He would break down and cry at what humanity has become.

>>49401331
One man who can shatter planets with his fists and can go anywhere in the galaxy without resorting to the warp

>>49403048
But warp powers are psionic, not magical.

>>49402613
Except his stats would be huge, so his saves would be as well.

>>49407373
He's weak(read "not immune") to any supernatural force whether thats psionics, magic, some shard of foreign reality before the big bang, etc.
So long as it's not an attack native to physical scientific(by dc standards) reality, he's weak to it.

>>49402795
And preserving his own life and free will isn't important? I can prove Superbro is faster than teleportation, no psyker in 30 or 40K is that fast.

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>>49407216
The true Emperor of Man

>>49403690
No, he just can't absorb it. Using his powers near a red sun just means he can't recharge, he doesn't just get weaker. Just look at how he pushed Superboy Prime through a red sun and lived.

>>49401316
Same thing that happens when something ends up in 450k, or 30k.

He dies

>>49407488
whats 450k like

>>49407510
The Ship has moved out the galaxy, the tyranids are just about to finish and follow the Ship.

>>49407426
Again, depends. If he knows him flying faster than light is the way to avoid a possibly lethal attack but he knows he's in atmo and casualties would stack if he did that shit in atmo then he'd probably try and tank it, and because he's superman and his will often times gives him power beyond normal he'd more than likely survive.

>>49407570
>flying
>can memorize all of Earth's medical knowledge in ten minutes

Who gives a shit about flying? Quick draw heat vision will instantly kill anything in 30K that tries to say shit to him.

>>49407645
Basically. Knowing supes any deathwave of chaos could be blown away by his super breath. I'm just trying to find one way to make this not seem like a bodybuilder knife fighting a blind newborn.

>>49403690
>Isn't Superman only strong when in a star system with a yellow sun?
It basically works like a fuel tank. His powers run on sunlight, and if he's not near a sun he'll eventually run out of power and be reduced to a normal human. Yellow light is great for him, blue sunlight is even better because it contains more energy, and red sunlight doesn't do much at all for him. Red light isn't like kryptonite for him, but he'll only be able to last until he runs out of juice. Same for the depths of space; he can and has flown between star systems in the past.

>>49406991
>More plot armour
>Than fucking SUPERMAN

>>49402873
Eteigsn blasted him from Earth to the moon with hellfire once.

He was fine.

Honestly, it will come down to what the writer at the time thinks. I personally tend to roll with Busiek's interpretation of the "vulnerability" as it were, but other writers over the years have wanted to make it like a second kryptonite.

>>49401316
You know what fuck superman i wanna see how SHAZAM would fair the guy could smack around the specter and for those who don't know the specter is canonically stronger then superman

Lex Luthor becomes the God emperor of mankind.

>>49410656
You...you mean Captain Marvel?

>>49411293

No, Shazam.

>>49403151
They kill the Emperor, kill the Primarchs, and set themselves up as the rulers of mankind.

The real question is what Rightclops' Imperium looks like.

>>49403151

>MUH JEAN

>>49411808
Rampant Psykers.

>>49411293
marvel trademarked captain marvel so DC had to change SHAZAMS name

>>49411962

One of my favorite things on /co/ is to call Marvel's Captain Marvel Shazam.

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>>49411873
I'm just happy they brought back Magik

>>49409759
Fucking this

>>49401316
He would get shrekt by Emps, who would either adopt him as a semi-primarch (but just a really dumb one) or kill him outright b/c Superman is a xeno and gift his cooling corpse to the magos biologis. Really, Superman meeting up with E-Money and chilling for a while sounds pretty rad.

Remember, Superman's canonical weakness is magic/kryptonite. He's great at tanking conventional damage, but sucks balls at absorbing any sort of magical damage, which nearly all of the player-races in 30K have easy access to.

>Every other special snowflake post-human character in 30K is a psyker/sorceror. Any member of the Thousand Sons could royally fuck Supes.

>All the craftworld Eldar are psykers. All of them.

>The Dark Eldar don't use their psyker potential, but they wouldn't hesitate using magical artifacts or enslaved psykers to crush Supes.

>Orks aren't generally psykers, but the gestalt field would probably fuck Supes up, and any Weirdboy worth his salt could give the Boy in Blue a run for his money.


Really tho, suffer not the xeno to live, Superman is dead.

>X in 40k
This is really just a thinly-veiled "You faggots will argue over anything thread.

>>49412509
Manchester Black thought the same thing. Now he's lobotomized and his team in pieces.

>>49412509
Warp fuckery is Psionic in nature.

Superman is immune.

He'd fix everything over the course of a miniseries.

Get rekt, GW shill.

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>>49412509
Well, usually Superman tends to get a resistance to magic thing. He learned how to defend from magic from Zatana, and as seen here, he gained a direct resistance to magic.

Ignoring the fact their abilities are psionic in nature, and Superman ALSO has a resistance to that.

>>49412509
Dumb one? Supes has supersmarts too, you know.

>>49414843
I don't know that if call them super smarts, per se. He has a photographic memory, and he is really smart, but on the comic scale he's kind of minor-ish, he's not a super genius.

>>49414843
Except when the writers make him forget he's smart to move the plot, which is most of the time

>>49402613
>as vulnerable as a regular person
>wouldn't get the same stat based enhancements as a regular person
So which one is it?

>>49407414
Then why doesn't Ultraman splatter him into chunky salsa with a hard stare? He's from another universe.

>>49414910
Um, what? He doesn;t tell Batman how to improve his tech to avoid hurting his feelings. He built a radio that picks up transmissions from the future. He's the only one with the intelligence and will to use the Miracle Machine safely.

>>49412509
Emps had no trouble with xenos, friend.

>>49417644
Because when applying the world "weakness" to superman it reads and is pronounced as "not strictly invulnerable too."
He's still fucking superman so you're going to need a LOT of force to actually hurt him but at least you're wielding shit that can actually stand a chance at hurting him.

>>49417699
But you (I assume it was you) were saying that supernatural effects bypass his usual invulnerability, and counted things from other universes. But that's not true. He fights people from other universes all the time. If anything, things from other universes should be weaker, since kryptonite not from his native dimension has zero effect on him.

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How fares the Odinson in the grim darkness of Midgard's 30th Millennium?

>>49417951
If he's considering a god, it's a purging.
If he's considered a xeno, it's a purging.

>>49417734
Could be they meant shit like the universes that hold the Forces.
Speed Force exists in its entirely separate universe for example and as not being of the universe supes came from its suddenly effective(see weakness arguement) against him.

It's probably just a case of writer inconsistency/established territory.

>>49418021
Aren't they just technically humans from a different reality/dimension or some shit?

>>49417679
Emps tried to ally with benevolent xenos, yes.

That said, I'm pretty sure that Superman would have severe problems with the Emperor and the way he does things. I don't think he'd be willing to work with him.

>>49418036
Nah brah, Thor is a god.

You're thinking of MCU Thor.

By the way, I think there may actually be not a single named character in 40K worthy of lifting Mjolnir.

>>49403151
>Cyclops, Namor, Emma Frost, Magik and Colossus
Don't you mean

>Piotr
>Emma
>Namor
>Illyana
>Scott?

>>49412887
No, it's the other way round. "Psionics" are magic-based.

>>49418091
Yarrick

>>49418091
Sanguinius or Vulkan?

>>49401536
So study his cells and use them to create a human primary with his powers.

It's cool, you're the Emperor, you can make that call.

Not like SM and Primarchs are anywhere near pure strain humanity anyways.

The problem is that Supes is usually a really, really shitty organizer. He's like the inverse of Angron.

Probably best to assign him as protector of Terra or something and keep him busy. Get around the Xenos issue by labeling him an artifact of the DAoT.

Or just glow like you do if anyone questions you.

Besides, you have 18 loyal Primarchs making you proud and fulfilling humanities mandate to the stars as you speak.

You got this on lock down..

>>49402795
I think the warp gods would be heavily invested in making sure he NEVER entered the warp.

>>49418409
Shoots his own men. Unworthy.

>>49418604
>Sanguinius

Supports a genocidal maniac. Unworthy.

>Vulkan

Literally burned the Eldar that saved his people from slavery and torture to death, then herded his people into death camps and burned them to death too. Unworthy.

>>49418091
Gazkul

>>49407095
Honestly, I think you're getting ahead of yourselves saying that he would fight the Imperium.

All the Emperor has to do is call him on on his position of judgement, when he didn't have to live through the repeated rise and fall of Mankind.

It's not like the Emperor does this shit for kicks.

He would probably just tell Supes to be the change on the world he wants to see. If he has a better solution that won't leave billions of your fragile and nascent Imperium dead from lack of supplies ror attacks from Xenos or because planet B has decided not send aid to planet A because their women refuse to wear a decorum chain around their waist to keep from ever being truly naked, and they find that disgusting.

In fact, if he's capable of fixing all the shit then he can step right the fuck up and take over. That's why the Primarchs were made, because Big E actually does have more important shit to do than handle their problems.

But. You know. Billions dead for every small mistake.

Judging from Supes current incarnation in Injustice, he would be fucking terrible at it.

>>49418091
Jurgen.

But he would still use his Melta for fighting, and only use Mjolnir for hammer jobs.

>>49418769
>Judging from Supes current incarnation in Injustice
Pretty sure it's mentioned that Injustice, at least the universe, had been going downhill for a while before its Superman got hit.

In other universes, he just does shit like retreat from humanity or things like that.

>>49418804
Jokes aside, Ciaphas is probably the closest human to being worthy.

There might be a few xenos that make the grade. Perhaps Maugan Ra, or Yriel. They seem pretty much like good guys.

>>49418769
I'm pretty sure he would at least try to force the Emperor to stop being a genocidal dickhead.

Supes can see when he shouldn't intervene, but when there's a warlord killing the galaxy, that's generally time to step in.

>>49407117

Not just faster than the speed of light, mind you.

Several thousand times faster than the speed of light. Post crisis no less.

The bigger threat here isn't even Superman. IF you are getting DC into the mix, the Specter would pretty much end all of the fighting quickly.

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>>49411936
>Xavier Institutes on every world
>if anyone tries anything, Rightclops just stares them into oblivion
>Chaos Gods ain't shit, get shut out hard
>mankind almost explodes as the psyker gene proliferates at a rapid pace
>Emma holds it all together by functioning as a psychic nexus for psycommunications across the galaxy
>Poitr, Namor, and Illya do double duty punching hostile aliens out of the milky way
>the next thousand years are a horrible bloodbath, with entire worlds going up in cinders as psykers tear things up
>by the time mankind's psyker gene has stabilized enough that they can control themselves and shut out the predations of the Warp, its galactic population has been reduced to 1% of its former number
>in the end, Cyclops was still right

>>49418949

>The Specter

Let's not go there. As long as God gave him the go ahead, there is literally nothing that he cannot do and literally nothing that can hurt him.

Of course, even by DC standards he is beyond OP and had a bunch of shit writers over the years making him more a less a little bitch for quite a while.

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>>49418949
>the Specter

Low tier.

>>49418091
Farsight might qualify as worthy.

>>49419065

The Specter could kick his asshole up through his forehead, broseph.

The Specter literally has all the powers of God. 100% of it with no repercussions. There is nothing that he cannot do, unless God tells him 'Don't do that.'

Always thought Sups was the Emperor. Emps was supposed to be lurking around from prehistoric times, so popping up occasionally and having developing his close combat skills against emerging mutants and psykers in the 20th would have been in character.

>>49419149
If Superman is the Emperor then Clark really let himself go in the intervening 28000 years.

>>49402577
>SuperHERO
>Dumped into a world he doesnt understand
>He cant tell whos the good/ the bad
Superman would do fuck all the 30k universe, hed sooner become a Tzeentch pawn or get lost in the warp than even interact with the humies

>>49419103
God almost never lets him use his full power.

Lucifer, however, has no such restrictions, and he generally cons people rather than simply fighting them anyway. Remember, DC Lucifer managed to trick and con his way to the point where he essentially had God kicked out of reality and replaced with a teenage girl.

>>49419149
If he's lurking around from prehistoric times then he's more like Vandal Savage

>> 49403059
>>Superman has beaten Shazam

From all the research I've done, most of their fights end in either Superman going further than Shazam is willing to (a la Justice League Unlimited), someone else intervenes to fuck them both up, or somebody tricks Shazam into de-Shazamming. I don't think either one has ever gone full bore in any fight, 'cause that'd end the universe I think.

Just. Nothing left. The last son of Krypton vs the whole power of the Immortal Wizard. That's all folks.

Shazam is a very underused character, and I hope they do some cool stuff with him soon.

>>49401345
Telekinesis? No, but if you want to actually do anything to him with it, you either need to catch him off-guard, think faster than he can move, or have him let you do it.

Telepathy? He's very resistant to it due to his mastery of the Kryptonian mental martial art, Torquasm-Vo, but he's not outright immune to it.

That said, without a several-millennia-long sun-dip, the Emperor should eventually be able to force the son of Jor-El to kneel before him.

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>>49401316
we already know what happens with superman in a setting. eitgher he, through sheer virtue and strength, purifies and sets things right.

or, the grimdark breaks him. and things get... nasty.

>>49419550
One scene in the old JL show basically had Shazam pimpslapping supes around faster than supes could react for a good bit until someone got him to go back to kid form where upon supes gut punched him into a coma.

Be aware this was white uniform, lobotomizer alternate universe supes where he went full hitler.

>>49421150
Wait, you mean the Timmverse show? Because that's nowhere near how it happened.

>>49419908
And how does he do that when Superman can burn him to ashes before he can form a thought?

>>49418091
lord solar machairus.
Cato Sicarius, if he is written by ward.

>>49412509
>Remember, Superman's canonical weakness is magic
He's not weak to magic, he's just not immune to it. Kryptonite is not magic. So no, it's not his canonical weakness. Moreover, when we say magic, we mean polymorphing spells and shit and he probably has a way to resist or counter those depending on which version of superman you're referring to. He's otherwise immune to magic laser beams and shit because of muh invulnerability.

>>49425138
On the other hand, if you hit him with a dumb magic missile made of raw magic, he's going to get knocked on his ass like any average joe.

>>49425176
He has a pretty high def stat, m8. There's a strong chance he'd just stand there and take it with only his cape moving. Joe gets atomized by that same blast.

>>49424770
Is that the one with the safecracking scene and the lex luthor free energy for everyone show(not the one i'm talking about) or the one with the hawkman shazam beatdown on batman and supes? Hawkman and shazam win.

>>49425210
Nah. Theres a scene where shazam holds him over himself and says shazam a few times and the magic lightning burns supes pretty bad until supes manages a switcheroo when shazam calls his lightning again.
Plain lightning albeit magic based mind you. Magical flames had the same effect once and psionics based sonic attacks hurt his super hearing.
This is relatively minor shit, ignoring the magic bit, for a man who has routinely bathed IN the firing and loud inferno of the sun and relaxed while doing so.