Hiro says the users should have discussions on our boards about

Please just end yourself.

Make me the new mod.

Qualifications:
*Not the current mod.
*Browse /tg/

>>49376036
As your first act could you please ban OP?

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>>49376036
k

>>49375842
Enforce the no god damn quests rule. That is all.

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>>49375842
We've already had this discussion. How about you stop making these threads to get your precious quests back and An Hiro yourself before you run out of proxies.

>>49375842
I don't think quests should return and I like this mod. He's been pruning a lot of fetish bullshit and off topic stuff in the last week.

>>49376036
okay

>>49376036
>*Browse /tg/
Overqualified.

>>49376158
Fkoff

>the main posters and participants in off topic metathreads are antiquestfags

God forbid we want to talk about board issues other than quests

>>49376472
Well all of these meta threads are being started by quest fags, after they whined to hiro and he told them to start a discussion about it. The threads are an attempt to make it seem like quests are more popular than they were to get them back in /tg/, so anti questers are coming out in full force to make sure that doesn't happen

>>49376347
Hear, hear.

>>49376513
It seems almost 100% antiquestfags starting shit. Again.

Also, you guys should really decide if quests were super populous enough to need a board or so unpopular a new board is a waste.

The loss of quests sucks, but to change it would require 8 solid years of shitposting, and im not autistic enough for that.

>>49376036
(You)

>>49376347
This. New mod is the fumigation this board has needed for a long fucking time.

>>49376513
>Bitching about whining
Given the nature of anti-quest discussion, apparently whining is a-ok.

>>49376581
>my side could never be in the wrong!
It's quest fags making these threads. For the first time in years I've seen cool threads with a really narrow topic surviving for more than a day. I've seen a lot of shitty threads getting reposted by questers trying to false flag, but they've been getting pruned really quickly along with all the fetish bullshit. I can actually start a thread on a very specific topic and chat with around 4 to 5 people for a few days on it, really getting to the meat of the topic. I couldn't do that when quests were around. There WERE too many

>>49375842
I miss when we were excellent to each other and didnt require safespaces where we never had to see badwrongfun, or else we"d get triggered.
Probably rose tinted goggles.

Keep quests off /tg/ and on /qst/.
Make /qst/ better.
Crack down on fetishfags overrunning threads.

>>49376638
Anon, that happened when quests were around too. The board has never been so fast that dying in a day was a concern. Not even during the most populous quest times.

>>49376638
I always was able to talk about niche shit, anon.
I think the problem might have been on your end.

>>49376683
That's not true, it happens to threads I'm in all the time. 3 people couldn't make a thread live if they left it alone for a bit, now they can

>>49376705
Except now the problem is gone. Getting rid of quests solved that issue

>>49376708
That is outright false, anon.
Why are you lying? We have never been that fast.

>>49376730
>no
>yes
>no
>yes
>no, you're lying

It's not like either have evidence to the effect. I'm not lying, just because you were in your quest threads didn't mean there weren't other threads that you weren't in dying

>>49376725
Maybe the secret is docusing on talking in your niche thread instead of shitposting about quests.
Niches have consistantly been talked about when quests were here.

>>49376754
Anon, the problem is you chose not to enter niche threads, of which there were numerous. I did, and they consistantly lasted.

>>49376755
I'm only posting right now because I don't want these false flagging attempts to work. There's no problem with quests being on /qst/. People who sre interested in wuests go there, people who aren't don't. /tg/ has more traffic, but any of /tg/ that doesn't like quests doesn't go to /qst/, and any that does goes there. Coming back to /tg/ doesn't help anything, because anyone that isn't going to /qst/ isn't going to participate anyway. We're higher traffic, but most of that traffic isn't going into quests. It's falicious thinking otherwise

>>49376784
No, I was always going in them. They're the main reason I was here. Don't tell me what I do or what I think, we're anonymous here

>>49376815
Anon, why are you blaming everything on false flagging like a questfag would?

Additionally, you seem to not give a shit about all marketing knowledge or things like exposure.

>>49376831
If you were in them you would have known they generally last a while and get a fair bit of discussion.

>>49376815
>because anyone that isn't going to /qst/ isn't going to participate anyway.
But that's actively a lie. We've seen for a verifiable fact that ALL quests have gotten their participation rates cut by at least a third.

>>49376853
Oh please, as if /tg/ is that exposed. We're on 4chan, the only boards that get exposure are /b/ /pol/ and /v/

Please keep quests off the board and go back to banning metathreads

>>49376882
See
>>49376877

"You're lying! You never had these things happen to you! We're the real majority! Everyone loves quests! It was only a few people who were really loud who hated them! Our side could never be wrong, I'm part of it!"
I'm done fighting with you guys, anytime I present our side you just say "No that's a lie". Quests were cancer, and I'm glad /qst/ is making them suffer

>>49376890
Please put quests back on /tg/ and go back to banning people who bitch about quests

>>49376920
Maybe you should stop fucking making up provably wrong facts then, fuckface.

>>49376920
>Stop pointing out when i am wrong!
>Stop pointing out i broke the rules for 8 years straight before i got my bottle!

I mean, we have an archive, at least make your claims match it

>>49375842
>It's another thread made by someone butthurt over quests being banned

GO BACK TO THE ABYSS!

>>49376982
They have another eight years worth of saved up shitposting to burn through.
I wonder if they are autistic enough to make good on it.

Anons that contribute greatly to thread should be made mods as they'll understand thread jokes and so not ban someone for talking about 'foreskin drums' when talking about slaaneshi shits

Basically hire mods/janitors that understand games and are up to date

Allow VPN posting because sometimes I'm using public wifi that sees the whole of 4chan as a child pornogrpahy site, and I'm sure this applies to others

Make calling KnightAnon's fists iron warriors a bannable offence

>>49377025
>Mods that know /tg/
I dont have enough laughing anime girls for your naieve post.

Can we ban everyone who complains about anime? They are flanderising themselves.

>>49376982
I don't actually care about quests so I don't keep track of this, but why don't the quests like having their own board? I would think that's a good thing.

/tg/ has decent moderation, unlike most other boards. The only change I might suggest is more proactive moderation of /pol/bait, which is becoming surprisingly frequent.


>quests

Whether or not you hate quests, they really do deserve their own board. And the new board has added tools to make questing more easy. Why would anyone complain about that?

>>49377067
Quests and forum games are a byprodyct of individual communities. They only thrive when they are a part of their native communities.

Hence why /a/ quests did badly here until they went back home, /m/ quests are still on /m/, and all quests on /qst/ had a massive population drop.

It is like expecting a community art exhibit to be in itself a fully functional community.

>>49377139
>Hence why /a/ quests did badly here until they went back home,
There aren't any on /a/.

>>49377084
/pol/ shit will probably just get worse and die down as election bullshit wraps up.

Anyway this thread is fucking retarded. There isn't any discussion happening here, just spamming bullshit. I'd rather hear about a fucking elf slave in a tree complaining about me killing too many people

>>49375842
One thing above all I want is to have the board police removed. I'm sick and tired of seeing people take it upon themselves to shit up any thread they consider badwrongfun and it feels like it's been happening more and more over the last weeks. The rule say to be excellent to each other and that rule is being violated again and again. I want people to just go back to just enjoying and contributing to threads they enjoy. Can we that?

>>49377084
I feel i already touched on this, but it seperates the community game from the community. Which members of said game and community might dislike.

>>49377153
You need to pay more attention.

>>49377171
Fucking this.

Ive seen them shit on writefags, drawfags, storytime, optimization, fucking everything.

Just be a decent human being holy shit.

>>49376247

This. If it were a general about just general /tg/ improvements it wouldn't be a big deal, but this thread keeps popping up as a shallow excuse for questfags (or more likely, the same questfag) to bitch and moan about how unfair life is now that they can't pollute /tg/

>>49376754
And the hundreds of
>person did nothing wrong
>best primarch coming through
>hurr durr I speech ork
>can a sister love nurgle
threads had nothing to do with others falling off the board?

>>49377139

>/a/ quests did badly here until they went back home

I don't browse /a/, so I can't say whether or not this is true, but...

Why the fuck were there so many anime quests on /tg/ if quests were allowed on /a/?

>>49377238
Funny how the first people to broach the topic were antiquestfags.

We've got bigger fish to fry than quests. Namely, board police emboldened by quest removal to shitpost against everything, because they found out it works.

>>49377293
Because some mod decided all quests go on /tg/.
And /tg/ is weeb as fuck on average regardless.

There is something people are forgetting, this quest mess was a unilateral power grab from the nazi mod and you dumb new fag fuckers went for it like the dumb edgy shits you are. I hate quest fags as well, Christ if everyone on /qst/ got nuked this world would be a better place, however, I refuse to acknowledge ANYTHING done by the nazi mod and you should too if you are legitimately part of this community.

>>49377174
Good for them, the larger community could not give less of a fuck as long as they don't have to see quests taking up discussion space

>>49377293
Because, despite their topic, the whole act of playing a quest is closest to /tg/. Or also to /lit/, but they would never allow this. I'm not pro-quest, mind you, but I can understand moot dumping them here for the lack of any better solution.

>>49377315
This.

This is the second coming of nazi mod and redditification.

>>49377318
The larger community doesnt give a shit about seeing quests.
Both questfags and antiquestfags are a fraction of a fraction of /tg/. Claiming otherwise is tribalistic masturbation to your pet issue, pro or opposed.

>>49377295
No, I'm pretty sure these god awful threads were made specifically because some fags wanted quests back
>>49377315
>unilateral power grab from the nazi mod
Didn't school start already?

>>49377358
The big problem with this mess is the nazi mod did this shit and everything the nazi mod does is to destroy /tg/ that evil Furry fuck.

>>49377370
Antiquestfags have been false flagging and making metathreads for a decade.
Given how they were the first to talk about quests, they are probably behind tjis one. It is their MO.

Why don't the questfags just make a quest general on boards that they think would be interested in their game? The QM could post the gist of their quest premise, link to the appropriate thread on QST, and the generals can be used to answer questions or acclimate new players to the idea of questing.

Either that, or make /qst/ into /games/, like other people have said.

>>49377370
>le eternal summer Maymay because you know I am right and you are a Fucking moron

>>49377397
That has been discussed, and they are considering a quest recommendation thread on /tg/ after the shitstorm dies down.

>>49377370
>Didn't school start already?
I know that Amerifat teachers usually don't care what students do as long as they get paid. The others are ones who are teachers only for the power trip and thus even breathing gets you punished. So in both cases, they can do whatever since they're either being punished anyway or not at all.

>>49377394
Everyone is false flagging but meeee
>>49377402
Well when people talk about "power grabs" by getting rid of quests like it's fucking game of thrones I'm inclined to think they have the mind of a child

>>49377389
It is really worrying that this shit exactly mirrors the early days of nazimod

>>49377358
Sure we can get ever more meta about who cares about quests jackass, but that is the reason you fucks got exiled and will remain on /qst/ until you crybabies stop screaming about a nazimod who gave you months to make peace with /tg/ or leave for a different site.

Face it, if you can't come up with a reason quests are considered traditional games discussion you don't belong here.

To be honest, I feel that threads that are the same tired bullshit should be autosaged rather than pruned.

>>49377453
>These threads are made by falseflagging quest fags
>It couldnt possibly be the guys who have been falseflagging for a decade

Sorry anon, but if you are going to claim someone is false flagging, i am going to think of the guys who have a decade of false flagging on their record

>>49377453
Just cause your a new fag doesn'the mean you have to show you are. This is EXACTLY like the early days of the nazi mod, you will see, you will all see, /tg/ will once again burn and you are all throwing coals into the fire.

>>49377500
Quest poster would never do that. He's a good boy

>>49377474
Actually the reason they got exiled was people shitposting for a decade and getting banned for it repeatedly.

And we both know that you will ignore any and all reasons quests might be traditional games, just like you ignored board rules for a decade

>>49377549
Well, antiquest poster does have a history of this shit.

>>49377517
I share your worries.
Overmoderation is here, and it cares more about shutting down content than removing /pol/

>>49377174
>but it seperates the community game from the community

This doesn't make any sense. I doubt the migration to a new board is going to cost you any of your regular participants.

As for some perceived overlapping culture, I don't think there is any. /tg/ers have largely been filtering quest threads outright. The board was so densely populated with them that virtually nothing else had a chance to occupy the first page.

There is absolutely no drawback to quest threads being forced onto /qst/. Arguments to the contrary have been purely out of spite, and I'm not going to reply to them beyond this one post.

>>49377614
It has factually cost them a third of participants, so your entire premise is flawed.

Turns outva lot of quest traffic was from general /tg/ population. You know, guys running without filters because they dont care.

So here's what I've gathered from this thread:

Quests should both stay and go

There's too much moderation, but more moderation is needed to keep things out

Good discussion everyone. This metathread isn't entirely the kind of thing that lead to them being banned

>>49377614
It has been repeatedly shown that quest participants are every day /tg/ posters.

>>49376601
god forbid you ever visit another board on 4chan

>>49376601
>The loss of quests sucks
Its really not a big deal, /quest/ people get their own board, so they can keep the threads up longer, while /tg/ has a cleaner archive and can have more non-quest threads up at a time.

Everybody wins and nobody loses, I don't see the problem. The only difference now is that there are two boards to browse for people that liked the quest threads

>>49377704
When the shoe was on the other foot, they shatpost for a decade about how hard it was to scroll past things they didnt like.

Going to another board is a monumental effort in comparison.

>>49377762
/qst/ existing is good for both parties though.
Now people don't have to hide every quest thread on /tg/, and they no longer take up space in the catalogue. At the same time, instead of being outright banned from /tg/, quest threads got an entire board to themselves, so now there can be more at a time, and they can stay alive longer than they would have on /tg/

I don't see why anyone has a problem with this change, it just seems better for everyone overall

>>49377748
Well, quest people lose to a tune of at least 30% of their participants.
And neutrals lose yet another slice of variety.
And oldfags are having panic attacks about nazimods.

>>49377791
/qst/ is explicitly worse for questfags, if you would pay attention to the thread.

And it only benefits antiquestfags, as neutrals give no shits

>>49377795
>Well, quest people lose to a tune of at least 30% of their participants.
>And neutrals lose yet another slice of variety.

Sounds like those kinds of people only ever went into quest threads because they were really bored anyway. The people that actually really enjoyed them would be on /quest/

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>>49377822
>>49377795
Seems to me like the mods are doing about as much as they can to make sure that anyone that cares enough about quest threads knows where to go to find them

>>49377791
Quantity =/= quality
Antiquestfags can't tell the difference, but 90% of the Quests on that board are utter shit, as if some proverbial reset button was hit. A good portion of threads there aren't even Quests, either (RISK, civs, evo, etc).
Sure, it doesn't matter to people who don't participate, but for people who actually like the medium are suffering from it.

>>49377829
Anon, many of the quests i enjoyed i only found because i was bored.

Something catching your eye in passing is very important.

>>49377855
They didnt even put up a banner.

Regardles, it turns out the passing /tg/goer made up a huge portion if quest posters.

>>49377886
>>49377875
Well, what if instead of asking the mods to merge the boards, we asked for a feature in our settings to merge certain boards on an individual basis.

For example, you could merge /tg/ and /qst/ so that all of the threads appear in bump order.

I think it would be a neat feature, and it would completely solve this problem on /tg/

Personally, I think it would be nice to be able to lurk /v/, /vr/, /co/, /ic/, /tg/ and /mu/ all at once like that. It'd be easier than having a tab open for all of them and trying to keep it organized.

Even a 3rd party extension like this would be cool, although it wouldn't solve the problem here since not enough people would use it

>>49377931
While nice, it only appeals to core diehards, and does not capture the passer-bys who are key for making more diehards.

A good feature, but doesnt solve the issue.

>>49377931
>Even a 3rd party extension like this would be cool, although it wouldn't solve the problem here since not enough people would use it
Yes, because most people don't want a huge clusterfuck like that.

Here's what I want, in order of descending preference:
>Remove /pol/-bait more aggressively, push that out of /tg/ and back into its own board. I'm not here to listen to anon's opinion of the EU.
>Remove fetish-posting, or at the very least keep it in a clearly-marked containment thread. I don't come here to read about the genitals of fantasy monsters. It's just gross and gives the rest of us a bad name.
>Keep quests out so we have more room for /tg/-relevant discussion.
>Crack down on angry /qst/ers who are shitposting in retaliation for getting their own board.

I think that about covers it.

>>49377993
>because most people don't want a huge clusterfuck like that.
Thats exactly what adding quests back to /tg/ would do though.
I don't see how just letting people that liked quests merge the two boards would be any different

>>49378000
At the time of their departure, there were less tgan 10 quests a day.
The amount of space used by quests is greatly exaggerated.

And the only way the quest shitposting down is to hope they are less autistic than antiquestfags, or else prwp for another 8 years of ban evading metaposts

>>49378057
But we need more primarch and wat do threads, clearly there just aren't enough!

Ban TowerGirl threads.

I'm sick of seeing shit art on the main page every morning.

>>49378204
Well, you can have 10 more a day.
Less if questfags are as autistic as antiquestfags and metapost for 8 years.

>>49378204
>wat do threads
Those are clearly quests, so them being on /tg/ is a mod failure. Send them to /qst/.

>>49378227
Keep towergirls.
I enjoy watching them be happy and productive from afar, and their removal would only cement the nazimod hates content meme.

It's super easy see what quests have done to tg. Go to the archive, filter by votes above 20. Browse over time. Now filter quests and browse over time. You'll see a sharp decline of non quests. You can easily plot the data points to a downward spiral. You can also see more and more garbage meaningless poorly written quests go up over time

>>49378000
>/pol/ is the problem

>Implying those who hate /pol/ don't shit up threads by responding 50'0000 times instead of hiding it.

Anyone who posts to very obvious /pol/ bait should be banned. Blot out the sun and the weed will die.

>>49378248
Ive heard it argued all quests have three prompts. Watdo have none. This, according to some anon who said so, not quests.

>>49378271
Blot out the sun and we will fight in the shade.

>>49378265
>Oh no, people like quests and vote them highly!
>They also make sure to archive the threads they like so they can read them again!

>>49378265
>Go to the archive, filter by votes above 20
What?

>>49378271
>>49378328
How about we leave the sun alone as long as it's talking about tg related things? If you don't like what the sun is talking about you can go talk in the shade of a tree.
What I'm saying is as long as it's a /tg/ topic it should be fine. No matter who's feelings get smudged.

>>49376347
The old mod is dead, long live the mod!

>>49378366
I think he's talking about suptg. Hopefully he knows that's not the only archive site that exists.

>>49378000
I vote for this

>>49378271
>Anyone who posts to very obvious /pol/ bait should be banned

I'm okay with forbidding replies to /pol/ bait, in addition to banning the bait itself.
>if you post /pol/ bait you get banned
>if you reply to /pol/ bait you get warned or banned, depending on the response
>if you post something that looks kind of like /pol/ bait you might get a warning

We don't need to block the sun, just maintain our metaphorical traditional games garden, which includes uprooting the ugly vines and weeds of /pol/ that try to drift over.

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Quests are games in and of themselves, I don't care if they're allowed on /tg/ or not.
But please delete all threads about video games, literature, movies & TV, comics & cartoons, anime & manga, or any other medium that is not a traditional game, unless explicitly framed in the context of adapting a setting into a traditional game.
This would not prevent anyone from discussing a setting for the purpose of making a traditional game out of it. All you have to do is write "I want to make a traditional game out of this" or similar clear statement of intent in the OP. It should not just be assumed, you have to write the words, that's the only way to be fair.
The statement "everything is /tg/ related" cannot be literally true, because that would mean it's impossible for a thread on /tg/ to be off topic, which we all know is not the case.

>>49378483
It doesnt matter what you vote or what the mods do.
The only thing keeping us from a decade of quest bitching is the chance that questfags are less autistic than antiquestfags.

I do not have high hopes.

Not that I give a toss about quests (most of them look pretty terrible), but they are literally board games.

>>49378913
Yeah, but that doesn't matter.

>>49375842
Keep quests off the board, thanks a million, making a quest board was the best thing for both camps.

Keep the fetish shit off and then we're just getting into the happy bonus category.

Everyone forgets that /tg/ is /d/ lite, but quests took up way more space than the occasional fetish thread, so comparing the two is difficult

Obvious fetish-bait shouldn't be here, though

>>49375842
Bring back quests

>nazimod days
>Vilification of quests, lewd, and content creation
>Now
>Vilification of quest threads, lewd, and content creation
Worry. Maximum worry.

>>49378913
Basically the thing is that pretty much everything is /tg/ related, unless somebody explicitly declares it isn't.
So far this befell writefags, smutfags and now questfags. I wonder who's up next, but I'm pretty sure it won't be vidya.

>>49379208
You notice how a lot of people are really quick to blame questfags for shitposting now?

Nothing better than a ready made scapegoat when you want to false-flag something to death, just like they tried with ERP and /wst/!

>>49379163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZhcWwAPQjM

>>49379254
>Nothing better than a ready made scapegoat when you want to false-flag something to death, just like they tried with ERP and /wst/!
They didn't have to do that, since the smut/fetish crowd will throw their shit all over the board anytime they get a chance.

>>49379270
Going back to where they came from means you want them on /tg/ again

>>49376815
>implying that it's not the board fun police pretending to be antiquesters AND questers trying to get other shit banned by falseflagging like they always have.
You're fucking hilarious, you idiots.

>>49379279
How would you ever be able to tell?
I mean wst was literally a seperate thread

>>49376158

Fuck this guy. How about not fucking up quests? We had a good thing going and now it's been shoved off into another board to die.

>>49379286
This. Quests arent the enemy. Antiquests arent the enemy. Board police are the enemy, and are willing to ban evade for a decade to shit things up.

>>49376347
>I like this mod. He's been pruning a lot of fetish bullshit and off topic stuff in the last week.

I agree with this.

>>49379279
But they did it. They have done it repeatedly. And you're too fucking blind to bother noticing.

>>49379316
I disagree with this

>>49376347
>I like this mod
Boards usually have multiple janis each, mods are sitewide

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>>49379285
They were banished from /tg/ to /qst/. They come back from /qst/ to complain on /tg/. I want them to go back to /qst/ and dedicate their energy towards making it better for their needs rather than try and merge themselves with /tg/.

>>49376347
Not seeing a difference. Besides being banned 1 day earlier this week for using reaction image. But maybe that's just me.

>>49379362
I never went to /qst/, but I defend quests being on /tg/.
Your argument is flawed.

And according to people from /qst/, they've been trying to make it better and have been ignored. And the biggest problem, exposure, literally can't be solved as long as they're banished to a separate board.

>>49379362
Well, you better hope they arent as autistic as antiquestfags, then.
Otherwise they'll keep complaining on /tg/ for a decade

>>49376347
Yes. Fuck quests, fuck off topic threads. Only /tg/ salt, rping and discussion.

>>49379085
Anon is right.

>>49375842
My complaint on the modding here: If the mods don't keep banning people for reporting child porn then this forum will be nothing but child porn very soon.

>>49379382
>they've been trying to make it better and have been ignored.
Ironically, /qst/ got perhaps the biggest "upgrade" in the history of all 4chan boards - they can post images now, originally only OP could.
Getting promoted from text board to image board in 1 day of board existence is unheard of.

>>49379466
Was /qst/ even a board at that point? I think that was still in the announcement thread, with the "manager" capcode.

>>49378342

Did you even read his post? He's saying that the increase in quests directly correlates to the decrease in other board content.

The filtering by votes is just a measure to make sure only quality threads are being counted in the measure of "other board content"

>>49379638
A lot of people refused to use sup/tg/ because it had quests on it.
But frankly, I think anyone who was actually affected enough by a small amount of the board being something they don't personally like wouldn't make good threads anyway.

>everyone saying antiquesters have been complaining for a decade

What is this spicy meme? The first quest was in '08, and Quests didn't become a problem until '12, when all the anime shit flooded in and /tg/ was deemed the quest containment board.

It's crazy how deluded people are. The quests didn't take up a significant amount of board space, no. Quests did lose a significant amount of players with the change, yes. But if you're going to try being the side with the cold hard facts, then make sure you're not fucking up something as basic as an easily-checked timeline. Fuck.

>>49379692
>But if you're going to try being the side with the cold hard facts, then make sure you're not fucking up something as basic as an easily-checked timeline. Fuck.
Anyone who blames the moved quests doesn't know the timeline very well.
Those quests, without exception, moved back or died by 2013.
People assume they're still around because some quests are weeby, but that's because 4chan is an anime imageboard and /tg/ actually has weebs.

See also, BESM, OVA, Tanto cuore, and all the other weeb as fuck RPGs, card games, and board games that /tg/ talks about.

>>49379692
Antiquestfags have been bitching about quests nonstop since rubyquest. Indeed, some are in the rubyquest archives.

That is a long time.

>>49379902
>>49379692
>Check timeline
>Antiquests have been autisming from the very start
Holy shit i did not realize they were that autistic.

>>49379733
Stop tryign to confuse the people who hate quests with facts anon. You know they can't understand the idea of facts.

>>49379945
Now you start to realize why people are annoyed at them.

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>>49379310
>>Quests
>>Good

>>49379945
And now you know why the mods on /qa/ caved into their demands that a containment board be made, and all their victory laps and joyous congratulations on being caged and isolated.

This isn't even a joke; in the very first thread discussing /gst/ and most of the ones after they were self congratulatory assholes, and that's why the mods kept banning them for being assholes and complainign about quests.

Because the mods relaized, "hey., these guys are pricks". But eventually the mod caved again, and banished quests.

And the assholes did victory laps yet again, and are still doing them, even in this very thread.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/%2Fqst%2F/deleted/deleted/
Scroll back to about page 3 or 4 to see how they were acting up until /qst/ was made a containment board.

>>49375842

We should move generals to their own board; /vgg/.

>>49379998
I am sad they gave the decade-babies their bottle, that is a horrible fucking precident to set

>>49380023
Fuck, that is a lot of antiquest shitposting and bans.

>>49380035
They did the same exact fucking thing with /wst/. The same goddamn exact thing, and this is what results. The precedent is set, and proven.

I just want to say that I'm really enjoying this salt. I'm glad the janitors are cracking down on shitposters. The only thing more I could ask for is getting rid of the /pol/ and fetish bait. Y'all are doing a great job, keep it up.

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>>49377574
Nah, questfags are just as bad as antiquestfags.

...So, non-quest games like Risk and NB are still free to host, yeah?

>>49380091
They currently are less than 2% as bad as antiquestfags. If they bitch another 4 years, they will be 50% as bad as antiquestfags.

It will take a solid decade of shitposting to be as bad as antiquestfags.

>>49380091
That's one guy who is consistently told off by questfags and anti-questfags alike (And frankly, given how antis have been acting, courtesy labeling was clearly a mistake and we should have been just as rude as you were).

Meanwhile, anti-questfags filled up all of those pages in just three months >>49380023

>>49380091
Bromont was a shitty person in general, not because he ran quests.

>>49380106
Until the faggots decide to throw another tantrum about what they have decreed isn't /tg/.

>>49377318
>discussion space
This meme needs to end.

Look at the threads dying on page 9-10 at any given time. 90+% of them are inane bullshit with less than a hundred posts, most don't even break double digits.

No active discussion would be affected if /tg/ had two solid pages of quests active at all times.

>>49380116
Yeah, questfags being polite was a mistake. It only gave antiquestfags targets.

>>49379297
They didn't stay in their ghetto. They shat up the board constantly and seeing this the mod shut their shit down as it failed as containment.

In this thread, I learned that
>antiquestfags are some of the most autistic people on /tg/
>antiquestfags have been breaking the rules for 8+ years
>quests being banished isn't the mod's fault, they just couldn't put up with the constant spam and ban evasion any longer

I feel bad for the mods having to deal with these people.

Oh look, it`s another round of quest posting.

Anyways, I'd love it if they could get rid of the /pol/ bait. The issue isn't opinions that hurt my feelings, the issue is poorly supported illogical shitwits spamming innane bullshit and samefagging into oblivion. That shit sucks, and it's always the same people.

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>>49380091
>one outlier who got more flack from quest people than antiquestpeople
>compared to 8 years of screaming at the mods
Your comparison is lacking in scope. Even the one person (Exabyte) who was fuckign aroudn with the archives isn't enough to compare to the miscarchived quests and constant shitflinging chimouts of people who didn't like people having fun on their board.

The board fun police win again....and you'll never know who they will turn on next,. Because people like that ALWAYS have a hate of for some poor bastard.

>>49380167
So, it turns out almost all of that was anti-smutfags, funnily enough.

>>49380167
>lies and misinformation
If that was true, you wouldn't have smutshit all over /tg/ again.

I vaguely remember the time when 4chan Gold Account was just a joke to troll newfags with, when we could call nigger a nigger without anybody taking it for political agitation, when moderation of the boards was maintained mostly by people ignoring the things that did not belong and the enforced moderation only stepped in to pacify stray /b/-tards spamming gore.
I hated the changes at first, but now I'm starting to like them. Just couple more, let it decay just a bit further and I can finally move on. I will be free again.

>>49380182
There's a reason they're called the board fun police now.

You think they didn't do this to the ERP hookup thread? They even tried to turn ERP agaisnt /wst/ and then realized it was easier to falsflag /wst/ threads.

The only reason they couldn't do that with quests is that it takes time, effort, and some imagination and skill to make quests.

But you can see how they started in on the generals right after /qst/ was enforced!

>>49380201
It's happening.
We're shifting from a wild west board to a reddit controlled by the whims of popularity.
Where... Where do we go from here?
Is the wild west dead on the internet?

>>49380217
Honestly, the second I find somewhere better I'd migrate. I just don't want to deal with identity fagging cliques and bullshit. Maybe I just have to bite the bullet and create a consistent persona, then jerk off with all the homos on whatever site I wind up on.

I just want somewhere to talk about things I like that isn't filled with faggots...

>>49380176
Exabyte never fucked around with the archives.
I do remember several of his quests being targeted for misarchival, and LL having to manually fix them though.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/index.html?post=540

There was also "Live with your shame" guy, who targeted a wide variety of threads for misarchival, including some quests.

>>49380247
So did we.

You can see where that got us.

I don't browse as much as I used to, but this doesn't feel anything like nazimod did. There's a 100+ reply thread about Pratchett sitting untouched, for instance. Kinda get the feeling that most people calling nazimod either weren't here for the first one or are just trying to raise hell.

Either way, metathreads never help anything.

>>49380247
You can't escape the tribalism, anon.
It will find you.
Always.

>>49380265
I was here for nazimod, and it feels a lot like it in places.
Hence why I'm so fucking worried. It's following almost the exact same timeline of escalation and removal.
First something here, then something there, then some more, then even more, and suddenly everything is awful and you can't have anything ever.

>>49380265
Tjhis one actually got some people to realize exactly who the antiquestfags really were.

And how they're going to run /tg/ from now on.

>>49380282
Same. It's not there yet, but all the same signs from last time are starting to show up.

>>49380282
How? What else is he removing besides quests?

>>49380284
Some random posters? Autist of every stripe are a fact of life on every board.

>>49380339
First smut. Just like nazimod.
Then many writefags. Also like nazimod.
Then quests. Again like nazimod. Same order, too.

>>49380282
>I was here for nazimod,
I will take your word for it, I was here just for first couple days of his rule myself . When my ban expired he was already gone.

>>49380352
Two out of three aren't bad. Smut doesn't belong here, and neither do quests.

>>49380375
I didn't get banned, but there was so little to do on /tg/ I hardly came here much during that time.

>>49380389
It is also worrying that the board police come out of the woodwork to hail the nazimod and claim everything they don't like doesn't belong here. That -also- happened during the nazimod days.

>>49380352
Smut has always been banned. They're just lazy about enforcing it. And when did this start? If you're talking about the old weekend smut thread stuff I'm going to laugh at you.

Can you show me archives of some of the writing stuff he's deleting?

>>49380352
Smutfags needed to go. There are literally hundreds of thousands of places to jack off on the internet. Use one of them.

Most /tg/ writefags are abysmal, nothing of value was lost.

Again nothing of value was lost. I am so sorry you won't know what waifu Anon-kun will end up with.

>>49380339
>random posters
>coordinated efforts to control board content through falseflagging and /qa/ shitposting for years
>victorylaps and self congratulatory posts by a very small number of people whose total IPs never increased the IP count in the threads they repeatedly posted in after 12-16 of them posted
Uh huh. I bet you didn't know that the IP counter goes off the local IP of your servers, not the one you can reset by turning your router on and off or using airplane mode.

>>49380403
>>49380401
>these posts mirroring exactly early nazimod days
You are doing nothing to ease my worry.

>>49380263
>>49380268
>that feel when I don't even feel comfortable on 4chan anymore, and I've been here long enough to have a very prestigious degree

>>49380403
How about those worldbuilding and gamemakign threads that no logner get content, fluff written, or any creative feedback at all past 30 or 40 posts?

They used to reach hundreds of posts easily. Not anymore! Because fuck creative people, they're bad!

>>49380434
yeah, the atmosphere of "fuck creativity" is getting to be the same as the nazimod days.
I hope this one blows over like the last one did.

>>49376513
Wait... so the solution to quests not having enough of a fanbase willing to follow them to a quest only board, is to try and convince people they have a large enough following to... not need a board to themselves? Damn... I enjoy quests but that's just all kinds of backwards wrongstupid.

>>49380434
I am so sorry no one gives a shit about your redeemed succubus goddess who transforms her faithful into ass and tit fat.

>>49380451
to the antiquestfag, quests are a tiny minority who are also so populous they can fill a whole board.

>>49380401
>Smut has always been banned.
Nope, the old ruling was that explicit images are bannable offense but text can't be NSFW. You weren't even expected to put it in spoilers. Mostly because we didn't have spoilers.

>>49380419
If you're one of the guys that got mad about porn being deleted, then yeah, I probably made fun of you in the endless night time meta threads. But then I complained to moot when I saw actually good content being deleted. So do you have archives of stuff he deleted or not? I'm not gonna freak out unless you can show me stuff he's actually deleting.

>>49380463
>the only worldbuilding is the shit I don't like
It's happening again!

>>49380434
>>49380446
How were those guys bullied out? Did someone delete their threads? Delete their posts?

>>49380478
shitposting by board police, mass reports by board police, deletion.

You have people in this VERY THREAD saying "fuck writefags" even.

>>49380472
I'm mad about pretty much anything being deleted, as I'm one of those guys who really appreciates the rough and tumble nature of 4chan which differentiates it from all the other websites.

>>49380446
>I hope this one blows over like the last one did.
Would not bet my money on it. The nazimod's rule ended when mootkins stepped in because he didn't like the idea of board segregation done this extreme. So far hiro seems to be much more in favor of board splitting and strict bounds.

>>49380489
>shitposting by board police
>deletion
I'm sorry, I was in writefag threads and I never saw such things. Hell, at times I created writefag threads. I also don't see anybody in this thread shitting on writefags.

>>49380526
yeah, that's what worries me.
Moot understood that you need to keep communities together to have critical masses of people.

The new guy seems to just cave in to shitposters.

>>49380451
Quests don't need a board to themselves. They never did. They knew they didn't have enough of a population base to support themselves, and there isn't any 'group of questers' at all. Questign is somethign that happens when you are also surfing other boards, and they were supported on /tg/ because people who surf /tg/ sometimes enjoyed roleplaying in quest threads

The only reasons things drop off of /qst/ is because of enforced autosage. Even then it takes over a week, usually two for a thread to die. There's no 'community of questers' because everyoneone likes different things, and different QMs write different things. It's pockets of people who like various stuff.

But that goes counter to what people who hate quests want to let you think, much like "the entire front page was all quests for days and days" (Where are the screenshots of this unprecedented happening by these people who saw it? They take screenshots of things like >>49380091 easily enough!) and "the boasrd was only quests and I left for years exccept just now when a thread is relevant to my hatred of quests!" (10% of the board is apparently the whole board - that less than generals OR WH40K OR "what do commisar/whatb happen next/wat do" threads. And all it takes is a quick search in the archives to prove that percentage, unlike the 50%/70%/over9000% claims the board fun police make.)

Lies and misinformation stream from antiquestfags keyboard, and they're perfectly happy to scream and yell at the mods to ban whatever content you might like.

>>49380540
see
>>49380403
The popularizing attitude of "and nothing of value was lost" is a major threat, especially with moot gone.

>>49380551
Well, what do you expect from people who shatpost and ban evaded for EIGHT YEARS until eventually moot got replaced and the mods caved?

RIP moot. He was too good for this world.

>>49377417
That seems like a pretty good idea. Depending on how many other boards do something similar you essentially "advertise" a quest on a board that you think would be interested in it (smutty quest on /d/, quest using existing RPG rules or similar on /tg/, WEEB: the questening on /a/).

>>49380559
>Most /tg/ writefags are abysmal, nothing of value was lost
As a writefag I can agree. But this doesn't mean that his post calls for a ban of all writefaggotry.

>>49380475

>>/lit/

World building really has nothing to do with traditional gaming unless you're building a new system to drive it with, in which case you're a shill.

>>49380540

Modern /tg/ writefaggotry is cringe, that much I can figure out after having to sit through an insufferable amount of it trying to play through one of /tg/'s not quest games, which until the DM decided to act like a favorist asshat towards his old guard, I was actually supporting from being recognized as being distinct from quests.

>>49380590
>World building really has nothing to do with traditional gaming
Holy shit, the generation of the board community is real.

>>49380585
As much as most writefags are abysmal, there are some quality ones hanging out here, and I wish there was a way to better nurture the fledgling ones.

I love to write, and I love to edit, but christ do I hate /lit/ and it's pretension. /tg/ could be a good place for writefags, but it needs to be explicitly /tg/ related topics.

>>49380596
er, degeneration rather.

>>49380573
Please don't pretend Moot ever gave a shit about /tg/.

>>49380590
And you wonder why people claim 'creativity is dead on /tg/'.

>>49380471
we didn't have as many people trying to use /tg/ as their personal literotica then either. We definitely had word porn (I have fond memories of that one lesbian guro writefag, though I can no longer remember her name), but it was something that happened spontaneously instead of something people came to /tg/ to do.

This is the exact same thing that happened to porn images, too. I used to post porn as a 'thank you' on occasion back in '08 and no one ever gave a fuck. Mods barely ever banned for it. It wasn't until people decided that /tg/ was the go-to destination for monster girl and elf porn that the mods started policing it.

And STILL no one has produced a link. Are you guys just bullshitting or did something actually get deleted? We've both presumably been here long enough to know people make shit up all the time - archive or it didn't happen.

>>49380504
4chan has never been purely unmoderated, even when the mods barely gave a fuck in the late 00s. Furthermore, anarchy works less the bigger a community gets. What worked for us in '07 sadly does not in '16.

>>49380590
There is literally no part of this board that doesn't go on other boards.
Every part of /tg/ is covered by specialist boards.

>>49380607
He gave enough of a shit about it to keep quests on /tg/ and kick out nazimods.

Fairly unfamiliar poster here, going on/off with /tg/ for years.

This board has become WAY faster than what you used to be. Threads fly by at an ever-increasing speed - I remember when you guys used to be on level with /ck/ or /an/. Now you're looking at traffic on par with 2011 /tv/. If that's a good or bad thing is not up to me.

Also, this quest business doesn't seem like it belonged here in the first place. Anonymous strangers using an image board to post their take on the actions of a fictional character (usually without attaching images) doesn't exactly scream "traditional". Seems more like a /b/ or /soc/ thing.

>>49380614
Anarchy and community is literally the only thing 4chan has going for it over other websites.

>>49380590
Holy shit, do you not realize how many systems don't have associated settings and are designed to work with any setting (Or at least any setting within a certain genre)?

At the very least, you're vaguely aware that GURPS exists, right?

>>49380614
XS. She still posts in /tg/ and /qst/.

>>49377417
To play doubles advocate - if we can have one host thread from /qst/ for quest advertising, we can have one host thread from /soc/ or /trash/ for smut advertising..

>>49380616
It's as traditional as any tabletop game, and shares many to all of the mechanics depending on quest.
Especially any NEW tabletop game.

>>49380590
This is the face of the antiquestfag board police.

>>49380650
None of those are reliant on exposure to gather players.

>>49380551
>10% of the board is apparently the whole board - that less than generals OR WH40K OR "what do commisar/whatb happen next/wat do" threads.

Except 'stupid scenario, wat do' threads are quest threads, just ones without the courtesy of putting 'quest' in the title. They should be moved to /qst/ along with the CYOA stuff.

Then there would be more posters in /qst/ creating more traffic for them which I'm sure will make the quest posters happy, because that's what they say they want.

>game finder threads? Soc bullshit
>Writefag threads? lit bullshit
>40k figures? toy bullshit
>rulebooks? More lit bullshit
oh no
oh no these jokes are becoming true

Just reporting in to say I am extremely pleased that quest threads are gone and that /qst/ is great for /tg/.

>>49380683
Not quests, sorry.

>>49380651
Thing is, nobody actually plays a game on /tg/. It's for discussing games, not actually for playing them.

>>49380693
Just popping in to say I am unhappy about the removal of quest threats, and that /tg/ has gotten significantly worse for their loss.

I just think getting worked up over Quests is a waste of time. They're not hurting /tg/.

>>49380614
>Mods barely ever banned for it. It wasn't until people decided that /tg/ was the go-to destination for monster girl and elf porn that the mods started policing it
This is what I think is a big probelm. People hear that /tg/ is /d/-lite and start injecting their fetishes into it. People hear that there is some elf-smut in here, and then there are the /e/-dumps of anime-girls with pointy ears. What else? Lady-knights, dragon porn, muscular orc girls. /tg/ reputation tends to haunt itself. "You don't need any other board anymore?" Make every thread you can think about. "/tg/ is the most productive and best board?" Everyone tries to make the next big, epic thing.

>>49375842
Mods should give the official okay for threads about writing fantasy and science fiction.

>>49380696
>that immediate moving of goalposts within a single post
Topkek

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>>49380614
What information are you seeking to verify? The banning of writefag threads?

You're allowed to post on ONE Storytime thread that gets made bi-weekly, where it has to be bumped multiple times in order to stay on the board because of how rarely people post in it. Any other writefaggoty takes their threads and their posting capability into their own hands.

The mods can and will make up shit to ban you for if they don't like it or it gets report-spammed by the board fun police.

Crack down on quest shit. CYOA stuff should go on the quest board too, as well as towergirls. I thought /qst/ would be a containment board for this shit but we're still here.

>>49380551
Yeah, I get it. I really enjoyed a couple of quests while they were here, not a lot.

But I've only gone out of my way to go to /qst/ once, when I realised I hadn't been to it yet, and then decided that instead of wading through lots of quests to find one I'd like I'd go do something else instead.

I haven't touched quests in a while though, mostly because they are an easy buy-in as far as investment goes and I don't have the self-control to not spend every moment of my free time reading them if I build up a stockpile of them that I like.

>>49380717
>"You don't need any other boards anymore?" meme
and
>"/tg/ can take any thread and turn it to gold" meme

Those the heart of it. When shit happened organically it was funny, like Captain Assmarbles. When you had people that tried to force it with shit like the Rape Factory it was just pure cringe. We have so much of latter because people want to be in the next memetic screencap.

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Ok guys... guys...
Guys listen...

We...
We do this:
We move the quests to /tg/ and /tg/ goes to /quest/!

We switch!

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>>49380590

The lore and the world building and the story are second to only the players having fun themselves in terms of importance, especially in the context of /tg/, because not only do they generate additional thread interest as well as constructive criticism on the fly, they're what gets preserved once the thread goes under.

Seriously, it makes me very fucking mad whenever you people claim that the writefaggotry doesn't matter when it's been a cornerstone of what we've done since WHW - to deny that part of us is to deny a part of what makes this board /tg/. We've forged new settings from whole cloth, and some of them didn't work (/tg/ Unified), while some of them did (Engine Heart), but that such things were made in spite of all of 4chan's limitations always spoke of how much a bunch of anonymous guys could accomplish if they really put their minds to it.

Remember when /tg/ got shit done? Oh wait, 1d4chan is from a less enlightened time where we were apparently worse of in spite of the fact this was the period that companies like GW were actually recognizing and acknowledging out presence.

>>49380774
And this is why /qst/ fails as a board.
Most people who quest are exactly like this anon, and aren't so interested that they'd go to an entire board and dig through 159 other quests to find one they want to participate in.

>>49380614
Here's your storythread.

>>49259284

Take a good, long look at how badly /tg/ wrtiefagging has degenerated. You get to write for /tg/ in this thread. Anywhere else and you risk a ban and thread deletion.

and how logn do you think this last bastion of writefaggotry will last?

Exactly as long as it takes for some Board Fun Policeman to decide, "NOPE, GOT TO /lit/!"

Magical Realm threads were contained when we had /wst/

Quests were actually inwardly productive, unlike Stat Me, Elf Slave, Magical Realm, Best X, etc. and therefore had more of a right to be on this thread.

>>49380782
God, it makes me so sad that we are no longer a carefree place of productivity and wonder.

Now we have people who actually, unironically say "fuck worldbuilding and writefaggotry".

>>49380782
Cue "nostalgiaglasses" and "tg was never good".

Bring back /wst/ and /erp/
-Threads are easily hidden, hell the site has a built in filter, and letting this shit be contained

Actually use /qst/
-Quests have their own board. Their own board that literally can suit their playstyle better than /tg/ can.

>>49380870
why don't we just make a board specifically for antiquestfags?
That would make everyone involved happy.

>>49380797
haha, no. They spilled everywhere anyway. /wst/ failed as containment from the get go.

>>49380882
I don't hate quests. I have absolutely no interest in them, beyond that they're threads I have filtered.

Thing is though, a board exists that is meant FOR QUESTS SPECIFICALLY. So why not use it?

>>49380908
readdathread

>72 posters in this thread

>>49380551

Yeah. I've paid attention to the occasional quest that popped up that was relevant to my existing interests but I'm not doing to seek one out.

>>49380889
>implying there wasn't smut weverywhere on /tg/ before /wst/
>implying there is no smut on /tg/ now
Uh huh.

>>49380696
I always liked the idea of each board being about the people who enjoyed the thing, especially with /tg/.

"/tg/ is 90% /tg/ discussion, and 10% discussion between the people who like /tg/." Especially when /tg/ seems to have had a lot of discussion that part of it seems to be finding new ways to have the same one, or reaching a different end from the same starting point.

It's like someone who hears dumb science questions and jokes constantly and then decides, "OK, but let's seriously work out how this happens/how it can happen." it definitely does seem to be happening less and less though (probably because of a lack of different premise).

>>49380870
>Bring back /wst/ and /erp/
Please no. Some smut is really okay, no problem, but bringing back anons that don't really care about traditional games, but are here to post there personal fetish settings is not okay.

>>49380908
See

>>49380791
and
>>49380774
and
>>49380551

>>49380908
Because being in a separate board means death for things that were never that numerous to begin with and were mostly made up of incidental posters and handful of dedicated ones.

>>49380915
Would be real shame if something were to happen to them...

>>49380927
man, I also loved the idea about the board being about people who do /tg/.

>>49380781
I love it!

The /quest/ thread, named so because of the typical name given to an objective the players must complete in many traditional games.

and /tg/ for the most traditional game of all, choose your own adventure and using your imagination and community driven persuasion skills to achieve the best result for a fictional character.

>>49380928
What's so sadly ironic is that every writefag in /wst/ actually played /tg/ games, ran them, and clearly knew the lore and systems.

So your "didn't care" is not only nonsensical, it's out-write ignorant and wrong.

They cared enough to ask, "what would you like to read about in your game system" and fucking wrote it for people. Writing is not fucking easy. It's hard, and it's WORK.

And they did what they did for free too. So, fuck you and your self righteous claims of 'they didn't care'.

>>49375842
only board with objectively bad moderation is /v/

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Admit it guys, the only reason you didn't like quests was because it revealed the true character of the average /tg/ poster.

Short attention spans, entitled, arrogant, and blindly aggressive to anyone who challenges their beliefs about proper fun. There were dazzling lights around the title of QM. The idea of being the storyteller that everyone gathered around brought in too many QMs. The Quest community became oversaturated, and they vied for attention because it was as addictive as any drug. Sturgeon's law came into effect, mixing with the innate irrationality of human thinking.

They fought for what little attention there was, and quests degenerated. The winning formulas were hammered out. The popular quests never ended before their backlog was insurmountable. And then the community swelled to match, and the playerbase moved like a locust swarm. The diamonds in the community became hidden gems that you prayed would never be noticed because the spotlight would attract the moths of shitposting.

Aye, most of it was anti-questfags, but the rest of it was the bottom of the base. It was people with no attachment to the quest that showed up to abuse the voting system, that showed up to strawman as the invested players and drive the narrative off a cliff, or straight into anything that could be considered a waifu.

>>49380960
Nope, not /tg, a dozen assholes who screamed a lot for eight years said so.

>>49380968
That would mean that they are still here, never left, because they can still post about tradtional games.

>>49380977
Ooh, fresh bait.

>>49380989
but they stopped contributing out of necessity.

>>49380990
It's good bait to, because it's anti-quest while attacking the oh-so-precious board culture that we drove quests out to protect.

>>49380989
This is also assuming they want to talk about traditional games HERE, rather than somewhere else, and that a creative mind doesn't have value in and off itself on this board.
Above poster made comparisons to nazimod, and they are almost all true, it's sorta scary.

>>49380989
We are. We just don't write for anyone.

Why should we risk it?

>>49380984
And they will be fantastically entertained screaming at quests while we enjoy our new drawing feature over at /quest/. Just leave it behind.

>>49381011
>>49381061
Let's hope that the situation normalizes to a point that some smut is appreciated and worthwile and entirely for the /d/ and /aco/ crowd that never rolled dice.

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Oh, hey, is that a bandwagon?!

Speaking as a questfag, I actually like /qst/. Only thing I can suggest is, as some have mentioned, a way to advertise our quests on /tg/.

/qst/ is /tg/'s /vp/.

>>49381094
>and not
Fuck me.

>>49381069
And that is the slippery slope.

What makes you think they don't enjoy the power of backseat modding now? They've proven time and time again they have the ultimate power of a mod, without ever being one! You honestly think they won't be more entertained by the salt that you'll spill when your prefered reading material on /t/g gets the boot? How long do you think it will be before somethign new becomes "not part of /tg/" and suddenly is spammed everywhere, falseflagged, and reportspammed while the Board fun Police scream on /qa/ about how such and such isn't /tg/ and should be removed?

It's a working system now, they have the ultimate proof in /qst/.

Why should they whine about quests anymore? they have scapegoats, they have the tools...and they have lots and lots of targets.

Are questfags legitimately cancer?
They are the only topic that got their own board and are whining to be merged back.
Even /mlp/ didn't complain this much about wanting to be merged back into /co/

What's the deal with questfags? It seems like their only argument, "muh audience. muh advertisement. muh marketshare" is the only one, and it's an incredibly selfish one.
Literally the only reason they can come up with is that they will get more attention from people who are neutral. If neutrals really cared about that quest and it wasn't a reflexive interest akin to seeing a fast food commercial and opting to go out to eat that day they would be going on the quest board.

There is no reason for quests to be brought back here, other than selfish questfags greedy for more attention.

>>49380451
It's more to do with the fact that many people who would participate don't actively search for a quest to join, they see one that interests them incidentally while browsing and decide to hop in.

It's like window shopping, or that display of candy bars next to the checkout line. A product can't benefit from window shoppers or impulse buys if you deliberately hide it in a back room.

>>49381183
Oh, time to add another month to the antiquestfags are the most autistic people on the board timer.

>>49381183
/mlp/ took up more than 2 pages on multiple boards at all times.
Quests took up less than 1 page on one board and less than 5 threads on a handful of other boards.

This particular false equivalency isn't even good bait.

I have another idea, a endeavor almost to terrible to mention.

What if we make an effort to push off what we don't like with quality content?

"Make /tg/ great again!"

If one could only terraform the climate back.

At least we're not /x/...

>>49381250
no making better content, only removing that which competes with your favorite.

More that Jumpchain choose your own adventure bullshit to /qst/. A CYOA is literally what a quest is.

>>49381312
CYOAs like that are so bad that even questfags don't want anything to do with them.

>>49381312
>A CYOA is literally what a quest is.
No it isn't.
A CYOA is a picture that you "play" solitaire style.
A quest is a multiplayer game that requires a specific arbitrator to run it.

I personally think that quests should be allowed on ALL boards. That's what they are – they are games tied very closely to their themes that require an environment familiar to it to form a big audience.
But letting them back to /tg/ is a good start.

/qst/ will just be a slow death for quests of 4chan.

I would also like to point out that quests not only require creativity to exist but also promote it very strongly.

>>49380616
Yeah it's gotten way faster. I miss the slower days, even if F5ing for 15 minutes at a time with nary a single post to be seen was annoying. It's not a good thing but there's nothing to be done about it.

>>49380635
>anarchy
Never been a true anarchy, as I already mentioned. And you don't want true anarchy anyways, otherwise you'd be on /b/, not here. The state of /b/ should attest to how good an idea that is.

>community
The community of 4chan in '16 is totally different from the community of 4chan on '12, which is totally different from the community of 4chan in '08. And I'm willing to bet that community was totally different from the community of '04 but that's just a guess.

>literally the only thing 4chan has going for it over other websites
Not even remotely true

>>49380646
>XS
Fuck, right, Storyteller. Kept getting the name mixed up with Xom's Champion when I was trying to recall it.

>still posting
Really? I could have sworn she stopped posting years ago. That's nice though.

>>49380717
>>49380778
Yeah, that's exactly how I've felt for years. That's one of the big reason I don't spend as much time here as I used to.

>>49380739
I just want to see what he's fucking deleted. If he's anything like the nazimod (which people keep claiming), it shouldn't be fucking hard. There should be a metaphorical mountain of corpses composed of deleted content. Yet no one can link me a fucking thing that was deleted.

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>>49381410

>>49381507
What exactly? The creativity statement?

>>49381507
all of it seems to check out, man.

>>49381220
I didn't say they were equivalent. Quite the opposite. I said ponyfags didn't complain about getting a containment board. They didn't whine and cry to be let back onto /co/.

Stop making these fucking threads. Just because hiro said to make one thread doesn't mean you can post them over and over again. Nothing will come of them except making everyone hate questfags even more.

>>49381583
I don't know, if you were against whining and crying you'd be on the questfag's side.
You know, because the antiquestfags have literally cried and whined for eight years straight.

>>49381595
This thread, several people learned how awful antiquestfags were.

>>49381561
So you think you know better than Hiro what to do with this month's quest shipment.

>>49381642
Are you daft?
>People unsatisfied whine and cry
Fucking questfags stop complaining
>quests, rightfully seen as off topic, get their own board instead of just being deleted
But having your own board isn't good enough! Questfags need to have their cake and eat it too!

/qst/ literally has better tools for running quests, but you guys would rather give that all up just because you want to be able to wave your dicks in a wider audiences face because a few more homos will be interested and start sucking.

>>49381692
>boo hoo, people don't like that I went against board rules and mod rulings for eight years straight and also ban evaded several times
Questfags have thus far whined less than 2% as much as antiquestfags.

If you are against whining, you would side with the questfags.

>>49381692
It's not just that. If some people go off /tg/ to /qst/ there'll be traffic for /tg/, and that traffic will be the ones that have a chunk of creativity and desire to autistically write out lots of stuff, some of which would be marginally good.

That overall reduces the creativity of /tg/, harming it, too.

(in b4 "/tg/ is better off without those people")

>>49381714
antiquestfags whining is legitimate.
Now that questfags have a board, their whining is illegitimate.
Effort has been put into satisfying questfags but they are entitled babies who are always desiring more attention.

I'm glad quests are gone. I filter quests and generals and I was tired of the entire front page being filtered.

>>49381746
Antiquestfag whining was illegitimate for a period of eight years.

Therefore, until questfags have illegitimately whined for a similar amount of time, antiquestfags have the world champion cup in whining.

What are you going to do about it? Whine some more?

>>49381739
>people can't browse more than one board
???
>>49381760
>Antiquestfag whining was illegitimate for a period of eight years.
antiquest whining is legitimate, otherwise /qst/ would never have been created in the first place.
Notice how it's quests who have been moved from /tg/ and banned, and not people who report the quest threads that remain.

>>49381655
Both sides are fucking unbearable at this point. Just accept things as they are and shut up already

>>49381781
Antiquest whining was not legitimate, as it was deleted and banned. It's just antiquestfags ban evade.
/qst/ was made because the new mod management just couldn't deal with your whining and rulebreaking any longer.

>>49381798
If people did that, quests would still be here.
Quests leaving is a proud show that to the whiner go the spoils.

>>49381116
I'd be cool with one "quest discussion general" thread here, but it'd have to be babysat pretty hard for the first couple months, at least.

>Anti-quest
>Quest fag

Jesus fucking christ this sounds like /pol/ with the goddamn JIDF.

Can someone with experience with /qst/ tell me why the board sucks with out jumping down my fucking throat.

>>49381746
>entire front page being filtered
Mate, you are delusional.

>>49381852
And of course, there would be the constant spam-posting of other fake generals, because they have proof that works and...

>>49381882
oh, population problems.
Turns out like 30% of the players, at least, on quests were random /tg/ guys dropping in out out.

>>49381882
Have you not been reading the thread?
To survive and prosper, quests require pool of people from which to derive audience and which to interest in its content. The bigger the pool, the better quests do.

/qst/ is a ghetto, a system that is said to be created for quests yet does not support their core requirement. It limits the potential audiences greatly.

>>49381900
Doesn't seem like a deadly drop.
And I don't think it's beyond /quest/ to grow as a community.

>>49381882
I personally think it does have a lot of good features. Though there are a lot of people who dislike things like thread IDs and autosage rules.

However the main problem seems to be lack of players, as the board has been isolated from transients who pop into the quest after seeing it during normal /tg/ browsing (which is how I found a 40k quest 4 years ago which I've sunk thousands of hours into since then, helping build a world for it that's bigger than most /tg/ group projects, but apparently that's not /tg/ related :^) ).

The massive drop in players most quests have experienced since the move proved that these transients were a large amount of the playerbase, and more players is good for quests. There is substantial fear that consigning quests to a single board means that no one actively seeks them out, meanwhile people will leave as the quests they specifically follow end.

If this is a true fear, it means /qst/ will inevitably die and quests along with them.

>>49381882
muh traffic and muh (you)s.

>>49381927
well, without wander-in people like old quests, the outlook is bleak.

That and quests had a sharp decrease in overall activity while online, too.
And new quests can't seem to get players.

>>49381927
The activity in /qst/ has only been decreasing since its creation.

>>49381927
That 30% is lowballing it pretty hard.
Every week, traffic gets slower. The forced migration added less than a dozen new quests and didn't improve the post numbers in any other quests.

The simple fact of it is that there's little crossover between individual quests. Most people participate in less than three quest threads over the course of a week or two.

i don't get the argument here. "/tg/ should welcome quests; a large audience means more players."

why is it /tg/'s responsibility to cater to off-topic material? brexit happened guys, get over it

>>49382271
Much like Edition Wars, the cycle of Quest Butthurt will never end.

>>49382271
>off-topic material
It's not off-topic though.
Unless you're using an appeal to authority here and saying that it's off-topic because a single mod decided to make it off-topic. Under that definition, it is. Under every other definition, quests are not off-topic to /tg/.

>>49380139
I appreciate those who were polite enough to hold to labelling - I'm not a fan of quests personally, but I never shitposted everywhere about it, and I felt being able to filter out was a good compromise to the situation.
So to those of you who did so, thank you, and I am sorry that not everyone who was not a fan of quests could be polite enough to simply ignore what wasn't for them

>>49375842
Throw CYOAs into /qst/.

>>49382271
>>49382372
and, under previous authority based definitions, itw as totally on topic.

>>49382433
I appreciate you being reasonable, but fuck if unreasonable people don't spoil it for everyone.

>>49382454
Risk threads as well

>>49382848
And kick those video game lore threads onto /v/ while you're at it.

Cyoa and risk are game posts and should be on /qst/

Keep /qst/; reinstate global image posting. Revert posting rules to tg standard +op gets formatting

Fire the /tg/ mod who migrated the quests to the board and fucked up the posting rules

>>49382271
>Brexit
>no Quexit
You had one job.