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MtG Spoilers for Kaladesh

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>>49343951
First gay to get a card
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>>49345532
woops wrong image
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>>49345532
>First gay to get a card
Anon, pls.
>http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&subtype=+[jace]
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>>49345546
Well it's not the R/U one everyone wanted
But it still looks kinda fun
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>>49345546
>Green now has an artifact commander
>Still waiting on UR

Don't get me wrong, looks like it'd be fun to build around, but I'd like to finally retire Niv-Mizzet this block.
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>>49343945
Good in limited

>>49343951
Bad all the time

>>49345532
Trash. doubling the cost of Pacifism isn't worth the second effect.

>>49345546
Nothing special, but it's a 1/2 for 1 with upside, so it'll probably see at least a little play
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>>49345631
Won't happen.
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>>49343945
>>49343951

Gremlins are kinda cute. Ugly cute, but cute.
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>>49343945
>>49343951
Don't give a shit about the cards, but love the design for the gremlins art they are going with.
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>>49343945
>>49343951
LOVE the design for the gremlins! Any other Gremlin card spoiled yet?

Now I wanna make a vanilla U/R Gremlins deck.
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>>49346528
Gremlins have been mostly generic limited fodder. There was one gremlin that got +1/+1 or something whenever you gained any amount of energy but its potential was killed by counting each instance you gained energy versus the amount of energy you gained.
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If wizards hates spell decks, why do they keep printing cards for pyromancer's ascension?
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>fabricate mechanic

It's finally my time to shine! Get your playsets NOW!
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>>49345546
Into my Training Grounds deck this goes. This + Intruder Alarm + Training Grounds x2 = Bananas
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>>49346729

Fuck off DesolatorMagic, it's not Cryptolith Rite is not going to be a thing
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>someone somewhere will open a pack containing both chandra and a pimping mox opal
>I'll buy a couple packs and get a bunch of shitty cards
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>>49346787
so it has always been for the accursed unlucky
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>>49346747
it's really great with Kiora, Master of the Depths, another card that will skyrocket in value


like holy shit, tap your guys and lands for mana, +1 kiora and tap them again for even more mana
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>>49346804

FUCK

OFF

DESO
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>>49346117
Just houserule her in as the commander.

They should have been designing them for this anyways after Commander 2014, when it proved that it could be done and was powerful without completely breaking the format. I know the walkers aren't the most popular around here, but a lot of people really like them and would love to use them as the commander.
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>>49346880
A walker good enough for multi is too good for single player
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>>49346902
Lucky for us that they're printing garbage ones then

Yeah I know, it's a mixed bag if the rules were to change now, but there are some really weak walkers who could probably only shine as a commander in EDH.
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>>49346915
It's my time to shine!
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>mfw my RW control/Artifacts deck will finally be viable with all the control white is getting and the artifact love red is getting
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>>49345656
>Trash. doubling the cost of Pacifism isn't worth the second effect.

People still played suppression bonds in limited. No one ever played in pacifism in constructed

>>49346948
I like it. Nothing on, say Etherium sculptor, but still interesting
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>>49345656
No one gives a fuck about your opinion, kill yourself m8 :)
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>>49346990
>I like it. Nothing on, say Etherium sculptor, but still interesting
>No blue, 1 more generic mana, 2 more power
They are equal in my book
Fuck blue
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>>49347035
Oh hey maro didn't expect to see you here.
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>>49345532
dat ass

>>49346932
so cute
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>>49346117

So why make it a planeswalker instead of a legendary? Its not like we desperately needed a new walker on the roster, Kaladesh is damn near drowning in walkers right now between half the gatewatch, Tezzeret, and Ajani.
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>>49347048
>hey maro
I'm pretty sure this is the worst insult anyone said to me
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>>49346932
Is it holding the hilt of the sword of fire and ice?
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>>49346932

That's adorable.
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>>49346804
I was really surprised that Kiora wasn't a thing in standard. I always kind of chalked it up to there not being any good dorks in standard but still.
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>>49346904
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
Bring back the red haste lord and whirler rogue too
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>>49347109
Her +1 just doesn't really do anything to the board
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>>49347109
I think she would have been a thing in Bant memes if there weren't just too many ridiculously good options for walkers in those decks.
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>>49347066
That and we already have two UR walkers, and one sort of was artifacty already. Really weird decision, but she does fit in the story. I don't see why they couldn't trade the colors of the UR and UG around though and switch their roles.
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>>49343945
>a 3/3 for 3 with haste is worth an uncommon slot

KEK
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>>49347173
Uh... yeah. It is. am I being memed?
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>>49346936
That Nissan was bad. Up is middling ramp at a point where it doesn't matter. (Or an extra 5/5, which isn't really grand either way.

her down is alright, since it's "target permanent" rather than a specific thing. Recursion is always nice.

And Cantripping landfall is alright.

But at 5CMC, its overall weak.

And it's all down to that up making a 5/5 that she costs 5.
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>>49347173
Do you want Zendikar 2.0. Because at Common thats how you get Zendikar 2.0

Be glad its not a Rare with some gimmicky artifact themede line of text and 4cmc
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>>49347190
Compared to Toyota, Nissan is pretty good
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>>49347035
I mean, 2 mana is better than 3.
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>>49347184
If it's going to be uncommon it need a bit more then that

Especially if it has restrictive RR casting cost
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>>49347226

>Nissan
>Not Mitsubishi

get_a_load_of_this_pleb_cam.webm
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>>49347261
3/3 for 2M is a rate that only green (and I guess white now with that Fabricate dwarf) gets at common.
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>>49347066
color balance
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>>49343945
how about you not start a thread titled "mtg spoilers" with baby-ass cards.
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>>49347339
>>49347316
>>49347303
We already know those cards, anon.

Also, as a Limited player I'm more interested in commons and uncommons.
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>>49343951
Why do they reprint this card so often? Who even plays it and in what format? It's strange to me imagining R&D having a meeting and concluding "yeah let's print demolish again".
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>>49347303
at least OP isn't a week old
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>>49347359
>Why do they reprint this card so often?
Because they doesn't print core set anymore.
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>>49347359
I'd mainboard it if I was playing red in Sealed or Draft.
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>>49347359
It makes more sense in an "artifacts matter set" where it's at least good limited sideboard card
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>>49347359
it's safe. it's mostly so limited players can have a sideboard answer to artifacts or utility lands in a pinch. it's not meant to be exceptionally playable, just to prevent an environment from having no real outs.
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>>49347383
It could have been a Mecha Titan, instead we get Gearhulks.
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>>49347383
>each player chooses
Oh fuck, I always assumed it was a creature tragic arrogance. Less powerful than I thought it was.
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>>49346990
>People still played suppression bonds in limited. No one ever played in pacifism in constructed
Captured by the Consulate is Rare, and is significantly worse than Suppression Bonds
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>>49343951
WHERE IS MY SMASH?
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>>49347394
Its overcosted because of the land option.

Because they're terribly afraid of giving red any temp control from land destruction. But they can't get rid of it entirely, because certian lands always need to be gotten rid of.

So, they make it retardedly expensive.
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>>49345532
If I cast this on a creature with protection from red, then my opponent casts Shock, what happens?
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>>49347458
It's 3R because 1R Instant Shatter would be entirely a first pick in this format. Also, having artifact destruction for two mana in there would make artifacts too weak.
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>>49347484
You can't change the target of Shock.
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>>49347484
i'm pretty sure the trigger tries to redirect it, but can't because of protection and so nothing happens to the shock
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>>49345532
Tezzeret just turned into a saturday morning cartoon villain.
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>>49347437
It's a cataclysm variant
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>>49345631
It's like a bad Rhys.
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>>49347717
>made with soulcalibur character editor
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>>49347739
>enters the battlefield
>ENTERS THE BATTLEFIELD
>at common
Holy shit, burning people to death will never be easier. This is perfect for purph.

>myr battlesphere hits the field
>this asshole and purpheros are already out
>15 damage every single time it's flickered/reanimated/whatever
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>>49347797
HUGS
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>>49347739

Well, this I like. The body is pretty nice for it's cost and it's going to do some wonderful things in red artifacts.
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>>49347964
Look, if Triumph of Ferocity had been in a panel in a Heavy Metal comic it would have been 100% guaranteed those poses were used to signpost some rape. The tumblr response was exaggerative and melodramatic, but there's a grain of reason.

>>49347997
Have they gone and explained it with some sort of meme bit in her history that burned all of her melanin off, or something? I always assumed it was going to happen but I have no idea if they did.
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>I just now realized that vehicles count for the colossus
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>>49347797
Ironically useful in Feldon EDH, where Feldon is guaranteed to never meet his lost love.
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>>49347797
Makes me happy.
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>>49348026
as far as I'm aware there's no in universe explanation for the indian ginger. they may take this set as an opportunity to explain that natural mages on kaladesh have weird shit going on, assuming the revelation that baral is a mage in the recent story leads somewhere narratively (assuming narrative relevance in magic writing is always a crap shoot though)
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>>49347797
Straight into mama Wort conspire shenanigans it goes!
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>>49346915
Neat, that's actually cool in pauper tron.
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>>49348085
>as far as I'm aware there's no in universe explanation for the indian ginger.
It's called fucking genetics people.

Just because someone has an Indian parent doesn't mean they have to come out dark as night.

Why is everyone so fucking stupid.
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>>49348125
She could be pretty white and not have this problem. She just happens to be a red-headed Irish teenager who bears no resemblance to anybody from the same plane. I don't consider it a race issue since like, Chandra is older than Kaladesh, we can get the fuck over it. But it is a bit retarded.
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>>49348119
Is it that guy who constantly cries about kaladesh on his blog because of
>muh indian culture
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>>49346880
>Just houserule her in
>implying people here are players of Good Magic aka kitchen table vanilla mtg and not disgusting tournament-scene grognards

Wish I could houserule her in, anon. Wish I could.
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>>49348103
I don't actually care all that much for races since wotc out and out said they don't care about their characters at all, but it is really stupid how they retroactively made Gidoen black

At least Nissa being all for dindus is technically possible.
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>>49348183
All of his art looks the same shade of "vaguely mediterranean" to me, so idk.
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>>49348125
both if her parents also have darker hair than chandra. I'm not even expectin her to look some shade of brown, but she seriously doesn't look related to either if her parents, at all.
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>>49348204
Look at Gideon Jura and then look at baby Gideon (or his oath).
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Chandra is Raiden
It's time for JACK... TO LET ER RIP
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>>49348179
The very same.
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>>49348218
They're different, but like, I have to squint a bit for it to look really "black" to me. He's got big lips but a Euro nose
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>>49348173
What they had to do was print more white people in Kaladesh, and they are actually doing that, two of the pilots are white, one is a redhead.
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>>49348218
Well, yeah, he's mediterranean. So are literally all greeks. They needed to make him greek in order to have a walker from Theros. So there you go. Stop your moral panic.
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>>49348256
Pretty disgusting actually, dunno how old he is but he shouldn't be crying like a child because a card game company doesn't cater directly to him.
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>>49348303
Except he wasn't Greek until development for Origins started.

I'm more just confused as to why they're ok with race-shifting Gideon but not Chandra.

If anything, they're making her whiter.
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>>49348267
ally of zendikar easily got it the worst with his weird gorilla/neandertal brow.
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>>49348218

He doesn't look black.
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>>49348328
Because dark skinned people don't have red hair, and that's way more marketable than brown skin.
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>>49348328
I think that's because 1) Saheeli and 2) she looks great. Gideon looks generic af even after they tried changing him into Jacetice League's token black friend.

Chandra's image is far more "unique-ish" and marketable, and her place in lore and the history of mtg is much much much more important (she was one of the first five walkers, or am I going crazy here?). A change with her character would be much higher stakes to play with, and desu would be stupid anyway
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I'm much happier with this set, considering some of the more playable commons and uncommons.
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Soo is the spoiler discussion over and we /pol/ now? can I finally play my all wall deck ?
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>>49348469
>she was one of the first five walkers, or am I going crazy here?
yea she was there

ajani, jace, lili, chandra, garruk

they axed ajani and made garruk evil to replace them with beefslab and dudeelveslmao
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>>49348492

Only if you want to Make Walls Great Again.
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>>49348533
I think all masterpieces have been unveiled already, and next set won't have any. Maybe we get an equivalent in Amonkhet tho
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>>49348328
I think gideon had green eyes at the beginning, less beard, and almost a model face.
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>>49348593
>and next set won't have any.
We're getting exactly 24 of them in Aether Revolt and there's no way in hell they aren't printing the other 2 swords.

There might be something in the set itself like the gearhulks but I don't know if it'll be a full cycle, so there'll most likely be ~20 reprint masterpieces
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>>49348593
All of this set Masterpieces have been revealed
There will be 24 more in Aether Revolt
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>>49348533
For the Aether revolt masterpieces I'm hoping for Ravager, the other swords (though fuck 'em), null rod, metalworker, and lodeston golem.

>>49348544
>>49348566
>calling black people "super predators" is not racist
She also used to oppose gay marriage, that bigot.
>lobbying your country club to accept black people and Jews, staffing your campaign team with minorities, and being a longtime supporter of gay rights is now intolerant
Good dubs, though

>>49348574
MISHRA'S FACTORY IN AETHER REVOLT????

>>49348593
Aether Revolt has masterpieces, dingus. Amonknet probably will have its Expeditions/Masterpieces equivalent, though.
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>>49348576
That's the distinction, I guess. Aren't 'African-Americans' mostly descended from West Africans, though? The Gold Coast at all that?
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>>49348624
>Amonknet probably will have its Expeditions/Masterpieces equivalent, though.
It WILL have
They said it in their Masterpieces introduction article
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>>49348593
>Amonknet probably will have its Expeditions/Masterpieces equivalent, though.
>Maybe we get an equivalent in Amonkhet tho
Do you people just blatantly ignore everything he says?

I know he says some dumb shit sometimes but come on.
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>>49347725
I've always liked gravedigger, but this card blows it away.
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>>49348642
They outright said yes? I wonder what card type it'll be this time. Sorceries or enchantments will be my best bet.

>>49348640
Probably. West Africa is the closest part to Americas and thus was the easiest to export slaves from.

>>49348660
Not really. Gravedigger is only one color.
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>>49348624
>calling black people "super predators" is not racist
Taken out of context
>staffing your campaign team with minorities
Yeah like that ONE latino who doesn't even work for him anymore because how disgusted they were with his racism? Also being part of a country club is pretty good indicator of being racist on itself.
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>>49348677
>I wonder what card type it'll be this time. Sorceries or enchantments will be my best bet.
I don't think it'll always be a specific card type. It'll just be something that "fits the plane".

"A shit ton of fancy artifacts" perfectly matches Kaladesh.
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>>49348677
>They outright said yes? I wonder what card type it'll be this time. Sorceries or enchantments will be my best bet.
Did you actually read the article ?
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>>49348659
As awesome as masterpieces are, I hope they don't just print modern/legacy stapples at masterpieces and say "here are the reprints that you wanted. :^) "
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>>49347739
FabricateWeaverClues.dec?
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>>49348660
One extra color for +1/+1 and increased versatility seems about fair; that's the sort of advantage that being an extra color should give.
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>>49348678
>being part of a country club is pretty good indicator of being racist on itself
Great bait, my friend! Here, have a (You) on me! Take it, I insist.

>>49348697
No. I probably should. You mind posting it?

>>49348696
Well yeah, but I think they'll do permanent types for now.
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>>49348677
>West Africa is the closest part to Americas and thus was the easiest to export slaves from.
That is not even close to being the reason. West African slave trade was extremely active at the time being conducted by both countries like Benin and arabs. East Africa like Ethiopia didn't had that problem becouse they were able to resist muslim conquest.
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>>49348697
>Did you actually read the article ?
Did you?

>>49348704
Well it's a good thing I could not possibly care less about modern/legacy/vintage/standard.

~50 extra cards with gorgeous art every block is pure upside for me.

I'm also pretty autistic and want all the "important" cards in a modern frame. The force of will and wasteland reprints were very nice.
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>>49348724
>No. I probably should. You mind posting it?
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/masterpiece-series-2016-09-12
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>>49348709
this agreed.
Especially at lower cmc, where splashing is harder.
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>>49348704
I think that's exactly the plan from now on.
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>>49347756
So cute! The little thing he made is pretty great too.
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>>49348730
That too, of course. But just logistically speaking that's a simple reason to import slaves from there to the Americas.

>>49348740
Thank you.
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>>49348756
>>49347756
How many categories do you think there are in the inventor's fair?

He won the "small creature" division but is there an overall creature division?

Will Rashmi win the whole thing for her portal?
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>>49348624
>MISHRA'S FACTORY IN AETHER REVOLT????

To be honest, it would make for some very interesting implications if they just included Mishra's Factory in Kaladesh without any other direct commentary about Mishra elsewhere.
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>>49348739
I usually go for the artwork I think looks the nicest, like modern masters sword of fire and ice and æther vial, old force of will, new wasteland.
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>>49348801
They should just put it in with no explanation whatsoever, no flavortext, no article, no anything. Just to mess with people.

>>49348797
Tezzy's probably going to say "U R WINRAR!!!" to Rashmi so he can grab the portal and take it to Bolas.
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Fancy.
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>>49348797
The most coveted award is probably swirliest.
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>>49348753
If that's the plan then why do we get Modern Masters 2017?
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>>49348892
The intention might be to stop doing Masters from now on.
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>>49348906
Except they don't. There are new reprint sets coming out even with masterpieces.
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>>49346117
Could still happen in Aether Revolt, but who knows.
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>>49348797
What's the deal with Rashmi and her portal anyway?
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>>49348906
I think the last modern masters set was a bit of a flop. Sure, a few nice things were in there, but in general it was rather underwhelming. I think it did almost nothing to resale values on staples, unless someone has any data to prove me wrong.
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>>49348939
For wizards, i'm guessing it was considered a success, seeing as how it sold out instantly.
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>>49348839
What would Bolas want with a Planar Portal though? It's not like he's suddenly in need of mechanical means to traverse the Blind Eternities.
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Is the mana vault description a hint towards karn or something?
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>>49348976
>lob a phyrexian through
>plane destroyed over the next two years
It's a sort of superweapon.
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>>49348971
Really? I found eternal masters sold way faster. I could buy MM15 packs 6 months after the release, but two months after eternal masters, they were next to impossible to find. MM15 sold well at the beginning, but I think it ran out of steam.

That being said, it did set precedent that rereleased kick ass cards will continue to have more or less the same resale value.
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>>49348338
Ally of Zendikar just had bad art
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>>49348939
I hate that they keep increasing the prices of the packs while making almost all the good stuff mythic. 6.99 was reasonable, 9.99 unreasonable and if the next set costs 12.99 a pack you're better off buying singles already.
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>>49348993
>tries to get elesh norn through the portal
>she doesn't get through because of her head
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>>49348892
>>49348906
or having speciality sets focused more on giving fun draft environments, with reprints added when they fit that rather than picking ones people want reprints of.

IMHO the main reason MM1 was so much more of a success than MM2 was because MM1 was way more fun to draft and play. I'd hop in on drafts of that, and I don't collect for modern at all.
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>>49348923
Post yfw they have Masterpieces in the next Modern Masters.
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>>49348809
Yea I think the new swords look nice and fancy, but I think their modern masters printing looks the best, honestly.
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>>49348936
Like everyone on Kaladesh, she invents for the sake of invention. It turns out that the invention that she latched on to was a portal, something capable of moving things from one location to another.

The issue is, the Mending was meant to not only change the nature of planeswalkers and weaken them but to disable all forms of 'real' summoning and teleportation for non-walkers. If someone isn't a planeswalker, they are bound and stranded on their plane forever, unable to explore the great beyond.

If she has found a way to make functional portal technology, then she has found a way to overcome those rules and allow planeswalkers to transport real, genuine armies from plane to plane. Suddenly the multiverse stops being countless isolated worlds unable to touch one another and starts being a single world of thousands of islands that are ripe from domination.
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>>49349047
Most probably not. Commissioning new art is quite expensive and MM makes enough money already when needing not that many new printing sheets. Also, it doesn't even get printed enough to warrant translations. Same with Conspiracy.
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>No Languish replacement
>Duress may not get a reprint

Is black kill?
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>>49349008
This is how I feel. I may buy a couple mastercraft cards, but after being a dedicated pack consumer for the last few sets, I've taken EM off. It just... wasn't good. I didn't really want anything and everything that I wanted really wasn't worth the "chase".

I think eternal masters is the straw that broke my back. I played in 3 drafts, opened a shitload of packs, cracked a couple mythics, and do you know what they were? Enchantress, Sphinx of the Steel Wind, and that Dragon. While I did crack two tops and a sink hole, I came nowhere close to getting my money back.

Shadows over innistrad seemed to have good value for the price, but EM strikes me as temperamental bullshit. Cards I thought would be valuable are cheap, and that stupid liliana is far more expensive than her play-ability dictates.

It just strikes me as more and more of a scam. Why would I buy packs that are balanced for limited, when I can just buy the cards I want for less than half the price?
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>>49348873
Nah, that's too easy. The real prize is the award for "Most Filigree by Proportional Weight."

>>49348854
Why was this deleted?

>>49348892
To milk more shekels from the goyim.

>>49348936
What do you mean? She's just an artificer that made a portal that can teleport nonliving matter and that can potentially get stuff between planes.

>>49348939
It was fucking awful in every way. The only value was in about half of the Mythics and a few rares. The draft environment was awful (DAYBREAK CORONET IN A SET WITH ONLY TWO OTHER NON REMOVAL AURAS, ONE OF WHICH WAS SPLINTER TWIN). It was basically Wizards testing the water to see how far they could go in terms of printing shit value, and they found they could do bad and people would lap it up.

>>49348976
It lets him get other stuff from plane to plane without having to do it himself. It would also benefit the Infinite Consortium (is Bolas or Tezzeret still involved in that?) in that they could ship goods to and from planes more easily. Also as a nuke launcher as >>49348993 said.

>>49348981
Why would it be?

>>49349008
Why did they even rack up the set's price? Would they not benefit more from printing more and selling more at a fair price rather than selling less, but more inflated packs?

>>49349034
Conspiracy 2 was great at that.

>>49349047
>Modern Masterpieces
>all the good cards are SUPER RARE rarity
Don't temp them

>>49349079
Ues.
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>>49349079
>still 1/3 of the set to be spoiled
do you have a quote from wizard saying these things, or are you jumping the gun like most doomsayers?
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>>49349047
Mfw we will have a modern masters set involving BFZ someday
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>>49348873
SWIRLY THING ALERT

(all jokes aside i want a plane where the catfolk are like Cat from Red Dwarf)
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>>49347797
>I don't even know this kid
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>>49349099
I feel you with eternal masters, whenever I want to buy a pack of it I just realize that I probably won't get the card that I want and hold off on buying because spending money just to get disappointed isn't worth it.

There is a trick to getting the card you want easier in eldritch moon tho, atleast if that card is mythic: almost every liliana pack contains a mythic from what I've seen.
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>>49349150
No, that will be Eternal Masters 2.
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>>49349061
You could have just abbreviated it to "it exists to let phyrexia in"
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>>49349150
Doubt it, even Wizards didn't like BFZ. It'll probably be swept under the rug
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>>49349189
Maybe they'll just reprint the new ulamog and call it a day.
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>>49349185
But anon, I don't really want the mythics in that set. Sure, maybe Emrakul would be nice, but I'm just not interested in a pile of limited garbage.

>look up prices of cards on starcity
>see that basically everything is worthless
>liliana is still $50 for no apparent reason
I'm so glad I didn't waste my money on this stupid set.
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>>49349188
There are more potential interplanar threats than Phyrexia.

Let's face it, as much as oldfags fanboy over Phyrexia, the only person in R&D who has any interest in them is MaRo and like it or not, he doesn't have any power in the company. He's just its face and the community punching bag.

If anything, they'll come up with some sort of not!Phryexian faction and use that instead and laud themselves of being masters of originality.
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>>49346787
It will be the guy who sits next to you in the sealed event for the pre-release. In the seat where you almost sat, but you got sidetracked with some trades and he sat down there while you were busy.
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>>49349268
>Opened a lili and a foil lili
>Sold them to my friend
>He won't shut up about how much they're worth
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>>49349099
I buy packs for two reasons, I like limited and I like owning lots of cards, commons and uncommons included. And pulling a pricey card that I can trade away or build a shitty deck around is a nice bit of gravy.

Otherwise, you are just playing the lottery.
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>>49346932
Fetch me my fancy ice cream scoop.
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>>49349268
I see. I wanted the liliana and gisela for my casual decks, and the emrakul just because it's emrakul and I wanted to have all six eldrazi. cracked a couple of packs, didn't get them, said fuck it and ordered them online, before lilianas ridiculous price spike.

I don't know what happened either, maybe because black white control won a big tournament or something.
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>>49346948
is that robit wearing cute glasses and is holding a gong?
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>>49346932
That thing is damn cute.
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>>49349079
Well, if those don't get reprinted or get a least a replacement I'm afraid yes.
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>>49347717
Isn't he just holding a pair of Bunsen burners that are used by children on that plane?

How is that meant to be threatening at all?
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>>49349382
>yfw Damnation reprint in Hour of Devastation
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>>49349290
I feel you.

>cracked a foil Nahiri
>sold it for $50 bucks a couple weeks after launch
>right now that card is over $100

>>49349291
But, if I was playing a lottery with good odds, I wouldn't mind. Consistently losing every single time isn't worth my effort, and when this set inevitably tanks in price, like it's already started to do, basically everything is going to be worthless. How in the fuck is Grim Flayer, an entirely garbage card, worth 8 bucks more than Tamiyo, who is also the same price as that stupid unplayable spider commander. It's just nonsense at this point.

>>49349312
I think it's speculative investors. It really isn't good, people just don't want to accidentally trade away their precious LotV which might be worth money some day, so the price is falsely inflated. I can't stand that shit. If a card is good, make it expensive. If a card is shit, make it cheap. If a card is kind of good, but not really format warping, it should be cost effective instead of this bullshit.
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>>49348328
>I'm more just confused as to why they're ok with race-shifting Gideon but not Chandra.
Because Gideon was a fucking white male and Chandra is the waifu of a large percentage of their target market and therefore receives protected status.
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>>49349405
They're a relatively new invention, it appears, so it's really more like wielding lasers or something
I mean I don't think they give kids personal lasers in school these days but there's no real great comparison to be made here
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>>49349405
A modified bunsen burner could really fuck up a person
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>>49349407
Maybe as a masterpiece.
>>49349341
It's a clock.
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>>49349405
I fucking hate Shitsplitter.
I've build an equipments deck and that's the only thing I get from fucking Kaladesh!
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>>49349285
If Whirler Rogue doesn't come back with him I will be highly upset.
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>>49349435
>was
Argentina please, Greece is white
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>>49349456
WR Artificer-Equipment is always a possibility.
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>>49349420
I believe Ishkanah is actually seeing play in Standard.

Anyway, playing the lottery is dumb no matter the prize. Personally, I didn't mind opening a Worldgorger Dragon, because I made the most fun limited deck ever. If you are only looking for 2-4 cards for a deck in something like legacy or high power EDH it is pretty obviously stupid to buy hundreds of cards of a set.
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>>49349405
look closer, look how heavy duty the metal housing on his are, how they have a punch-dagger configuration, and how it seems they are mainlining aether straight from him.
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>looking through prices of Kaladesh spoilers
>literally only the planeswalkers are expensive
>chandra is already $60
>nissa is $25
>masterpiece sol ring is $150
Oh gee, I wonder what's ruining magic.
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>>49349456
I imagine we will get one or two rare equipment that's good.
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>>49349520
Mark Rosewater is!!1
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>>49349520
masterpiece sol ring isn't even that good

I was highly suspicious of them being able to make a better art than this, and of course it wasn't.
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>>49349435
I don't get this meme. Gideon is pretty white, he's probably the only White-Cis-Male in my Standard Allies deck. And I'm using the flip one.
You guys don't have reason to look into Kaladesh or Theros, look for Allies from BFZ and Oath, try to find a human white male. There you may have a point.
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>>49349452
>It's a clock.

But why?
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>>49349520
Yeah because Wizards really has to worry about the secondary market that earns them nothing.
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>>49349586
because he's an inspector

>Ensure that the consulate's stringent standards for mass production are upheld
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>>49349586
To keep track of time to make sure production is flowing smoothly.
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>>49349567
Eh, I think both arts really suck. I just don't understand the pricing at all. I would buy a few of these cards, but lightning greaves is $50 fucking dollars. What's the point? I hope the OG versions become much more cost effective, but the way this is being handled, it seems like they're going to get MORE expensive.
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>>49349567
But that art is digital shit. Volkan Baga is a much better artist.
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>>49349620
The original versions of Expeditions didn't go up, why would these?
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>>49349603
>>49349612

so he just goes around to everybody showing them his big bronze clock?

what a trooper
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>>49349567
>digital shit vs real art done by a real artist
tg has shit tastes
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>>49349653
Wouldn't you?
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>>49349648
Expeditions are funny. They were super expensive, then moderately prices, and now they're creeping their way back up again as fewer packs are opened. Also, idiots undervalue lands all the time.

Now, the second someone cracks a draft playable sword, or a sol ring, that idiot is going to know that card is worth a shitload of money. Every idiot seeing that card is going to want one, and thus demand will increase, increasing the price of the original commodity.
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>>49347756
Tiny deer!
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How to kill the secondary market, and make standard and modern affordable
>You can order playsets of a set at the cost of something like 10-25 cents per card.
So a Kaladesh playset would be 1056 cards, at about $105,60 to $264.
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>>49349672
Well, it is a pretty spectacular clock, i probably would
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>>49349567
>best Sol Ring art
>anything other than the OG
You are no son of mine.
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>>49349620
Lightning greaves are pretty good

I hope we get swiftfoot in aether.

>>49349627
>>49349654
I'm not shitting on the artist or anything.He makes good art. It's just most likely impossible to make better art for sol ring than the current art.

Even the masterpiece art is pretty much just a yellow version of it.
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>>49349685
>Now, the second someone cracks a draft playable sword, or a sol ring, that idiot is going to know that card is worth a shitload of money. Every idiot seeing that card is going to want one, and thus demand will increase, increasing the price of the original commodity.
That's pretty fucking stupid.
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>>49349708
Original is still pretty good.

>>49349719
I never noticed that there's most of a head there, I had always just thought it was a barren skull.
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>>49349689
Also, now Wizards doesn't have money for illustrations, templating, and creative team. Also, who needs playtesting? :^)
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>>49349752
Same, >>49349719 I always thought it was just a skull, never noticed it had skin.
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>>49349764
Forgot to add; you can only order playsets. But this would artificially cap prices at least. And the pricing was an example.

Alternatively, kill the entire fucking reserve list and make it possible to order a boosterbox of sets that are no longer in print.
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>>49349719
They're good, but not $50 good.

>>49349721
Doesn't change the fact that it's true. Have you played commander? It's basically one big circlejerk over who has the fancier things in casual playgroups. And now those casuals will crack a Sword of Fire and Ice, use it in an underpowered draft environment to show it off, and laugh at all their friends who don't have one.
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Chandra's always had an Indian first name.

... A first name used by white trash, as well, but always Indian.
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Robowaifu when?
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>>49349790
This would kill the game. You would have your playsets but no one to play with.
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>>49349801
Yea but she was a white girl from some noname plane with abusive parents before.
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>>49349689
You know, they could just stop giving a shit about standard and stop being so sensitive about it and just reprint the highest demand cards. People would crack packs like nothing else, wizards would make money and with the rise of supply the prices would go down so modern for example would be more affordable. Wizards is happy, modern players are happy and legacy players would be happy to an extent too.
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>>49349834
B-BUT MUH SECONDARY MARKET, MUH HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS VALUE CARDS.
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>>49349689
>>49349790
>Make mtg a ccg instead of a tcg
I mean sure I'd love to have a playset of chandra the firesculptor but that's incredibly retarded.

They want to have people by packs, anon.

Do fuck the reserved list though, literally no one but 30 year old jews who don't play the game even care about it.
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>>49349778
It has eyes too.
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>>49349834
>People would crack packs like nothing else

Like 2% of all the people who buy cards.
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>>49349853
Shoo to those people, noone guaranteed them that their cardboard would hold it's value except for the retarded reserved list.
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>>49349420
>opened 3 Nahiris in total
>sold them when she was worth about 10$
>that feel when she hit 50$ for about a week
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>>49349834
Wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense. You're saying that people would crack more packs to open expensive product, at the same time the same expensive product they're trying to open is depreciating in value dramatically? You're contradicting yourself.
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>>49349834
And yet, Standard players get fucked by modern staples for 2 years. And Wizards isn't willing to ruin their precious new players with modern shit.
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>>49349520
It's so nice.
All the pieces for my RDW brew are cheap as shit
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>>49349905
>traded a Stony Silence for a Nahiri
>I got the short end of the trade by 2 dollarios
>feel a bit dumb
>only for about a week, though
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>>49349909
Maybe it was badly written basically I just want more reprints. Not super mythic flashy 150$ reprints or reprints in a set that cost 9.99$ per pack. Just plain old reprints of cards that have reached prices that no printed piece of card board should. If for example scalding tarn gets a reprint as rare and falls to like 30$ to 20$ people would still open packs trying to find one, wouldn't they?
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>>49349979
>"I know nothing about the whole process of printing Magic cards but I just assume Wizards doesn't reprint the cards I really NNNEEEEDD! out of pure spite!"

;^)
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I've always felt that the secondary market prices of cards are dictated by the large sellers (Starcity and such) deciding that this is the cost for each card that will cover their costs of cracking open product and sorting it to ship out. Their projections for feasibility don't really factor into it because it's just hard to know what is good or not without testing.

Everyone just follows suit. If you price your card too low, the Starcity people will just buy you out and put it in their own store at their higher price.

In that way, I don't fault them for pricing singles like that.

It's just the thing is, I'm not willing to pay $20 for a playset of some fucking cardboard anymore. It's not that I can't afford it, it's just outright stupid to do.

I wish that the majority of product opened was actually done during Limited. I wish that everyone at the store just bought a box and when someone says, "Let's draft" it just happens as easy as taking a shit. But it's not like that, it's outright fucking impossible to get 8 people together and have a draft go off without a hitch. There's always some asshole who is poor, doesn't have packs, doesn't fucking remember how to draft, or just does the douchebag thing of just leaving in the middle of it that fucks with everyone. That and people just don't have the $100-150 dollars to drop once every three months on a box.

And that's the problem. Players are both useless people and poor. I can call 7 people at any given time and we can plan a hike, hit the gym or go to a restaurant. In Magic and only in Magic are the people too useless to get anything done. And if the secondary market preys on the fact some people have money and some don't, then that's just the way it is, because the vast majority of players can't do the responsible thing to balance those fucking natural market forces that drive the secondary market.
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>>49350015
I'm not assuming that but right now they are extremely careful with reprinting right ?
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>>49350015
They're not doing it because there's no profit to be made. They literally don't even have to make new art, a new "set" symbol at best. With the exception of a few sets (Looking at you, portal), pretty much every set would be a decent sell.
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>>49350034
You know that every set for the next year is entirely finished, right? They only get so many sets. Standard is the format that makes most of the money and they don't want the format being wrecked by too powerful reprints. Heck, even Thoughtseize dominated the format. They only get so many sets to put reprints in.

Also, why didn't you get playsets of all the Modern cards in the first place? Bad planning? Tough luck. New player? Get a job or get in line. It's not Wizards's job to make sure you play in old formats they don't even design cards for.
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>>49348704
>"here are the reprints that you wanted. :^) "
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>>49350089
Yeah, I know. Heard that people complained about thoughtseize.

Semi-new player. Started three years ago, build my first modern deck 2014, affinity, second end of 2015, g/r tron, third this year, suicide zoo, so I have some of the lands and stuff. due to physical sickness I can't really work right now but I'm trying to get a job as soon as I can. but it's kind of shitty to look at a card you really want and see it being like 100$ a piece isn't it?
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>>49350159
Yeah but they haven't confirmed that those have no impact on whether or not they will be reprinted. We've seen in the past that things printed as promos which really aren't enough to drastically change supply they will say in response to "why hasn't this been reprinted" "it has here in this promo".
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>>49349512
>The aetherborn is using his own life essence to fuel his stabby lasers
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>>49350175
You can apply that same thought process to any luxury novelty item.
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>being poor
lol. shouldn't have dropped out of elementary school, dumbasses
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>>49349801
Chandra is also a male name.
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>>49350337
That is true, most hobbies and most things aren't cheap, sadly.
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>>49350175
>but it's kind of shitty to look at a card you really want and see it being like 100$ a piece isn't it?

No. I've been playing this game now for 16 years and I never spent money on singles.
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>>49350159
FoW could have been reprinted at anytime, it still took 15 years.
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>>49350429
How exactly? Just luck with packs, lots of trading or both?
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do you guys ever erp as characters from magic? my bf and I like pretending to be koth and venser :3
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>>49350483
Or you could just not be autistic and play magic how it's intended
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>>49350429
I don't get your point. buying cards as singles is by far the cheapest way to build constructed decks, so congrats on either not playing constructed or being inefficient with your money I guess.
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>>49346948
This plus Herald of Kozilek can make Artifacts cost 2 less, right?
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>>49350513
I don't think there is a "intended" way, otherwise Wotc wouldn't have formats. some people enjoy magic your way, others enjoy it in another way, live and let live.
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>>49350548
think so
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>>49350548
Or you could just have two of them. Or two heralds of kozilek. Retard.
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>>49350483
>>49350536
Packs from Drafting and trading, yes.
It also helps not wanting to play the best possible deck ever in Constructed formats. Or not to play Constructed at all. I usually just ask friends for a deck on Game Day.
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>>49350509
No. I did play Strip MTG once. I felt bad for winning so hard. She wasn't having fun and got cold.
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>new aether revolt masterpiece
> creature karn
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>>49350018
>it's the players fault that there's a predatory secondary market
And yet you wonder why nobody wants to drop hundreds on cardboard to play with your elitist ass.
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>>49350583
Oh dude I played strip mtg once too. I lost on purpose because my bod is amazing and showing it off gets me really excited
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>>49350429
I think we all know that standard is the way Magic is "intended" to be played (or at least what current magic design is based on), so either you're implying otherwise or you claim that you can somehow play standard -successfully- while never spending money on singles.
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>>49350509
I've played five man planechase a couple of times

>koth and venser
>not venser and karn
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>entire plane is artificers and artifacts in a way only matched by esper and mirrodin
they gonna get phyrexian love, aren't they?
how did tezzeret got out of phyrexia without being anally raped by the praetors? what's bolas agenda in kaladesh?
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>>49350602
>free market is bad for the little guy
LOL sure it is :)
There's nothing wrong with elitism. Most people are worthless, the thing that amazes me is how magic players seem to exclusively be worthless, poor, and entitled fucks who don't even deservete air they breathe
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>>49350582
Magic is intended to be played by borrowing decks from people who bought them? Someone payed the money either way dumbass.
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>>49350636
Current Magic design is based on Draft and Sealed. Standard is just the second important thing they design for.
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>>49346932
first hedron crawler, now this.
maximum cute
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>>49350667
you mad that you "payed" the money for worthless cardboard, dumbass?
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>>49350661
I think you need this ifyou can't figure out that r comes before t.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetical_order
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>>49350667
>Magic is intended to be played by borrowing decks from people who bought them?

I never said that. I just said whenever I want to play Constructed I borrow a deck. It's not like people don't WANT to borrow me decks. Sometimes they even ask what I want and I get really cool Standard decks for Game Day.
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>>49350703
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>>49350706
Yes
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>>49347797

This seems very eligible for Modern Dredge.
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>>49350709
Yeah, I just had a brainfart or something there, only realized after I posted it
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>>49349520

Masterpieces are going to sink the prices of everything else in the set, which is great for Standard players. Walkers have been horribly inflated in the pre-order phase ever since Jace was crazy overpowered and ended up getting banned. No one wants to miss another potential Jace situation, and Chandra is doing a lot to remind people of him by being 4 CMC and having 4 abilities.
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>>49350636
Magic at its core, is intended for people who have about a fat pack or two's worth of cards to build decks with. Essentially sealed where your limit is human decency and common sense in regards to what is worth spending money on cards.

Limited and Standard are the primary focus for card shops because they don't require you to have a bunch of cards already out of print to play.

Sure, you won't be able to win a decently sized tournament in constructed without spending ludicrous amounts of money. But you can at least play.
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>>49348574
>a creature type with a dash in a typeline (with a built in dash)
>this much complexity at common
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>>49350820
But it is a common.

Not everything can be glorious German, though, with its Artefaktkreaturenspielsteine.
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>>49350857
Is "speilsteine" german for assembly worker?
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>>49349593

See, this is complete bullshit.

Secondary market vendors keep shops open, sell sealed products, manage judges and other event personnel, record game results, sell singles, run concessions, etc., etc. No one else is as responsible for MTG events as the secondary vendors. Not only is SCG the largest online secondary vendor, they operate large competitive events.

WOTC does, in fact, make money from secondary vendors. They couldn't run MTG without them. Secondary vendors have close relationship and special status. They receive special consideration when new products are being developed.
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>>49350875
nah, spielsteine can be seen as token.
basicly its artifact creature token.
I love being German
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>>49350875
It is token. Game rock.
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>>49350602
I want to play Magic with people. Not online. I want to be able to sit down and get it done. Or plan ahead and get it done.

And I can't have that. I can't have a draft go off without a hitch because everyone has so many fucking personal problems.

At least one person always fucking says at the very last minute:
- I have no money
- I have no packs
- I can't make it
- I have to go half way through
- I have no sleeves
- I have no basics
- Do we leave the basic/token in the pack
- Are we rare drafting
- Which direction we going
- I don't want to sit beside X player because they're too good
- I suck at draft and all of you are too good, how is this fair
- What colors are good
- What does *keyword* mean?

Just fucking no sense of preparation at all. Just fucking great when we're down to 7 people and shit can't happen so the cell phones come out and some poor bastard gets the call, "Hey, last minute, sorry we didn't invite you initially but we need an 8th or this shit doesn't happen, sorry to guilt trip you like this", which is the most inconsiderate thing on the planet if it wasn't for the fact that THE most inconsiderate thing on the planet is the asshole who decided to leave into Pack 3 or Match 1 or decided not to show up with packs.

Everything bad in this game stems from a gross lack of competence from the player base. And I don't blame any business for gouging the fuck out of people like that when priorities stand at bitching and moan about black people in my card games or their lack of WRB Planeswalker when you can't even get a in-life draft firing on a regular basis without the store holding your fucking hand through it all.
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>>49350896
Bausteine instead of modular is great too. And schlüpfriger butz is like the best cardname.
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>>49350896
You must be loving the current set then.

What's lupine prototype's type line for you?
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>>49350913
Just go to draft at a store. They have events regularly.
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>>49350928
>>49350933
Artefaktkreatur - Wolf, Konstrukt

Indeed I really like it :D
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>>49350928
>schlüpfriger butz
Red's had some pretty great card names lately.

Harmless Offering, Start your Engines, think there was another one too
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>>49350875
I was talking about our old friend the Wurmspiralmaschine. Assembly-worker is "Montagearbeiter".
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>>49350018
>>49350913
Hey man my draft didn't fire off today either. You don't have to be sad about it.
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>>49350965
>Commas separating the sub types
savages
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>>49350965
Don't forget the theros golems
>Verzauberungsartefaktkreatur
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>>49350756
Yeah, this card is going to do things. In multiple formats.
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>>49350734
im making a cute creatures only standard deck, here's my list so far:

4x Hedron Crawler
4x Workshop Assistant
4x Filigree Familiar
4x Thriving Grubs
4x Bomat Courier
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>>49350984
>Wurmspiralmaschine
That's a fucking riot

Did other languages get the un sets?
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>>49351018
As some of the jokes are language-specific and translating a tiny supplemental set would entirely raise the costs over their budget - no.
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>>49351018
No because most of the cards are puns or other untranslateable shit.
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>>49350984
Do you think they have to worry about fitting in text for other languages when designing shit?

"Todesberuhrung" and "Lebensvenknupfung" don't exactly fit as neatly as "lifelink" and "deathtouch"
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>>49351065
Yes. It affects English templating because they have to worry about it gaining more size in French and German.
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>>49351065
Jin-gitaxias name was cut in all languages right? Wasn't he supposed to be named jin-gitaxias augur of the core or something?
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>>49351104
close enough
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Piece of shit, or Delver / Prowess COTYAY?
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>>49351125
Kumar / 10
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>>49351118
Nah, but they already had to think of the name length when mentioning him in flavor text at the beginning of the block.
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>>49351125
Not great. Sorcery. And you don't get to cast the card if you want it to kill something.

So, it'll almost always be either the world's worst Flame Slash or a shitty cantrip.
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>>49351174
Is German usually the language of text bloat on cards?
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>>49350913
So this means that they can't print good cards? Because they have to cater to your fake format that by your own admission no one plays?
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>>49351192
Usually, yes. But French can have really long titles, too.
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>>49351233
jesus christ
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>>49351233
I really don't get this shit, the name means nothing, so why don't they just change it to something that's not wordy as fuck?

It's not like in Yugioh where changing the name means they have to errata shit onto the card to make it clear that it fits into X designated archetype, who gives a fuck if the French/German/Whateverthefuck name isn't 100% the same as the English name?
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>>49351186
>Sorcery
Normally, I'd see the point, but in this case I don't think it's that big of a handicap considering you might also want to cast the card instead of using it for damage.
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>>49350913
play pauper faggot
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>>49348070
I will play Cathartic Reunion in Feldon EDH.
It will get countered and Feldon will settle for building sad robots Pia and Kiran Nalaar.
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>>49351233
>French uses and to separate sub types and uses colons instead of hyphens
>German uses commas

Is this some cultural thing because this really annoys me
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>>49351349
This thing >>49350965 could have been "Artefaktkreatur - Wolfkonstrukt" but that wouldn't have been the clearest solution. You'd get people arguing over whether it is a "wolf" at all. Or people choosing "Wolfkonstrukt" as creature types and shit.
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>>49351382
he's right, wolfskonstrukt would be a different single creature type instead of the pair wolf and konstrukt
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>>49349420
>How in the fuck is Grim Flayer, an entirely garbage card, worth 8 bucks more than Tamiyo, who is also the same price as that stupid unplayable spider commander. It's just nonsense at this point.

what

Are you seriously asking why Modern and Standard playables are worth more than a planeswalker with no use in constructed?
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>>49351349
French here, this annoys me on french magic cards (I just buy in English because of the translation).

Especially with multiple types
It should be: x, y and z. But they do: X and Y and Z.

Atrocious.
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>>49351349
As a French, using hyphens there seem weird and colons serve that exact purpose. So yeah, I guess?
Using "and" to separate sub types may be unnecessary: "guerrier humain" would work fine too.
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>>49351278
It is a sorcery for good reason, but it doesn't help it much in terms of being playable as either a bit of removal or a decent cantrip (seeing as instants are a thing).
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>>49350647
>how did tezzeret got out of phyrexia without being anally raped by the praetors?

he... is a planeswalker?
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>>49351535
>It should be: x, y and z. But they do: X and Y and Z.

So you want "Human, Zombie, and Rogue" to be the type line?
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>>49351535
>X and Y and Z.
Shit, I forgot about that. That was shit. Fortunately that's pretty rare, I know allies tend to have 3 types but what else?
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>>49351588
Seton's Scout has my favorite creature type line. Hasn't been printed with the oracle text, but some day.

Coiling Oracle is a common threefer.
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>>49351575
>So you want
I'd ratter have them like this guy said >>49351538

But IF they put "et" which is basically "and", it should only be for the last one. But there's really no need for any of that.
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>>49351641
Yea I was wondering why they had and there.

Glad that actual French people think it's just as stupid.
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>>49351632
> Centaur Druid Scout Archer
That's a mouthful in English, let alone French
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>>49351575
>"Human, Zombie, and Rogue"
That example doesn't really work since there is two races, but if take for example Ondu War Cleric (Human Cleric Ally) I would want to say: Clerc humain allié. But it's humain et clerc et allié.
Maybe they wanted to keep the order : race, class, other?
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New card spoiled. Enchantment that costs 1u, whenever a creature or artifact ETBs under your control, you can pay 1 to get two energy, you can also pay 6 energy and sac it to draw 3 cards.
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>>49351680
> centaure et druide et éclaireur et archer
The only time you would talk like that would be as a stylistic device to insist on how long the enumeration is!
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>>49351810
Yea it was just the first thing I thought of, and I forgot that human zombies are just called zombies and not human zombies.
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>>49351856
Shit, does that mean Underhanded Designs is a cycle, at least partly?
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>>49351936
New Thread
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>>49351903
yeah, probably means the sacrifice ability requires you to have two/maybe more artifacts
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is kozilek the biggest creature in standard?
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>>49351962
He's a big guy
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>>49351971
is there a bigger guy for you (me) or is kozilek the biggest of the biggest bigs
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>>49351962
Emrakul is a 13/13
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>>49348976
Anon, that's like asking what God would want with a spaceship. It's a stupid question.
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>>49350083
Why would you single out portal, a set with some single print cards as well as a number of tutors and natural order, when you have Homelands and Fallen Empires?
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>>49352515
Fallen Empires wasn't THAT bad, they just printed 200x too much of it.
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>>49347739
R/W looking strong as usual. Fabricate/clue time.
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