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Why do Western tcgs have such toned down art. Art from Vangaurd

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Why do Western tcgs have such toned down art. Art from Vangaurd and Duel masters is fucking insane.
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>>49308674
Insanely shit, maybe.

>anime squiggles with oversaturated colors on some generic foil backing

WOW MASTERPIECE
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Prepare for

>opinions

Bonus points for if they are stated as fact.

It's about art trends and taste
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>>49308674
Because this makes my eyes bleed.
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>>49308674
Because western tcgs are not backed by a cabal of eye glasses and lenses industry magnates.
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>>49308674
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>>49308740
But look at this sexy beast

All of the World, Supreme real Dragon Church
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>>49308791
I can't even tell what I'm looking at.
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>>49308674
It's not BAD, but I personally find it way too over the top, that much colour ruins an otherwise great drawing and overly complicated design like these >>49308811 >>49308791
have great detail, but bad proportions and way too many things in it; that makes it definitely not pleasing to the eye since the drawing has no focus and no personality
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>>49308674
It's a clusterfuck to look at.
Look at this. Lady with a sword. Bing boom done
Look at >>49308791. Visual clusterfuck robot dragon angel with big ass building pauldrons and like eight different weapons.
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Less is more
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>>49308951
.neon laser devas with planet buster weapons and six heads have no personality

for gods sakes, even the NAMES in DM ooze with style

Supernova_Venus_la_Saint_Mother
Supernova_Mercury_Gigablizzard
Supernova_Pluto_Deathbringer
Supernova_Mars_Disaster
Supernova_Jupiter_King_Empire
Q.E.D._Plus,_Final_Dragon_Logic
Evidegoras, Dragon Sonic Aircraft Carrier
Dolzabard, Superior Dragonic Phoenix
Death Arcadia, Devil Saint.
Supernova Apollonus Dragerion
Supernova Black Hole Thanatos
Supernova Bigbang Anastathis
Violence Heaven

Violence Creator
Perfect Heaven
Bolpheus Heaven, Holy Super Dragon.
Handsome
Bolbalzak "Sword Flash" Dragon, Blue Divine Dragon
Codename Sword-Flash Ragon
SwordFlash Galaxy, Super Champ
Perfect Galaxy, Spirit of Immortality
Bolmetus Steel Dragon
Progre Sapphire, Divine Blue Brightness
Valkyrias Musashi, Ultimate Battle Dragon
Greatest Caesar, the Dark Kaiser
Master of Destiny, the Spirit Wolf Phoenix
"Galaxy Blade - THE FINAL
"Galaxy Shot - HELL"
White Knight HEAVEN, Lord of Spirits
: Romanoff Kaiser NEX, the Super Enlightened
Black Ganveet, Legion of Demise
Storm Double Cross, Blastdragon
Storm Kaiser Double Cross, Temporal Kamikaze.


Final Storm Double Cross NEX, the Miracle Awakened.

Crimson GENJI Double Cross, the Swordmaster Awakened
Blazing Boss! Vals Kaiser
Gaial King Dragon, Raging Dragon Lord.
Shan Bell, Light Weapon

Thunder Blade, Wolf Tiger
Aqua Attack (BAGOOON Panzer)
Aqua Cascade (ZABUUUN Cruiser)
Aqua Jet <BOOON Sky>
Mother Alien <Gladly>
Alien Father (Just 1 Song?)
Volg Thunder
Geo Rebirth Universe
Cosmo Cebu Lambda
Gaial Ryusei Dragon, Star Dragon King,
Infinite Orchestra of Love
Intense Boiling! Hot Spring Gallows
Intense Sumo! Thrust Wrestler
Intense World! Shachihoko Kaiser
Gallows Hellish Dragon, Brink of Despair
No Arguments! Onimaru Boy
Ogre Warrior Kaiser "Win"
Onimaru "Explosion", Golden Age
Forever Princess, An Eternity to Rule Them.
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Regardless of whether you like the weeb art or not, whoever is responsible for formatting those cards should be drawn and quartered
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>>49308997
Wedding Zenith of Celebration
Suspense Zenith of Curse
Guillotine Charger
Codename iFormulaX
Excavator MS, Fused Giant Soldier
King Command Dragons
Ogre Warrior Kaiser "Win"
Kokushimuso Kaiser "Sho x Katsu
Onimaru "Head", Victory Rush
Zeta-File, Zenith of "Mystery"
Truename White of Lionel
Lionel Finale, Zenith of "Lion"
Cosmo Cebu Lambda, the Super Electromagnetic.
Shangri-La, Climax of "Cruelty"
Utopia Ever, Zenith of "Destruction"
Kiramaru Great Miracle
Onimaru "End", Grand Finale
Zorro A Star, Mantra's Prison Break
Ultra Knight Punk, Shentury
Stroganoff, Mantra of Flashing Seal
Frill, Mantra's Compassion
Carina, Izanai's Mantra
Yomi,Humanity God
Humanity, Nameless God
Izumo Returns,. Counterattckl God
Spice Queens, Inga's Holy Evil
Wendigo Apache, Izanai's Blank
Shiranui, Mantra's Roaring
Kinako, Familia's Defenseless
British ROCK, Shentonginus
Ginger,_True_Flash_Believer
Neo Wave Catstropher
Go To Hell, Annihilator Blade
Evidence, Truth Gun
Perfect, Immortal Lance
Multiply, Double Dragon Gun
Discald, Misfortune Demon Sickle
Discald, Misfortune Demon Sickle
Gaial, Leader Dragon Sword
Diabolos, Prison Dragon Blade
Gaiohburn, Head General Sword
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>>49308997
>>49309007
>Those names
What a clusterfuck of a clusterfuck
Overly stylistic names are okay and even cool in anime, but for fuck's sake, it shouldn't be on a card, much less a card with overly detailed full art
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>>49308980
You can be streamlined and not boring

for example

Leo the World, Zenith heavenly Saint
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Goddamn, I wish Duel Masters was still alive in the West. Fuck WotC for killing it twice here.
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>>49309042
>Not fucking your opponents shit with a card literally named Go to hell.
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>>49309007
I like this guy becomes of his flavortext

>The thing that isn't obtained, speaks silence, and unexpectedly gives voice to feelings.
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>>49309060
That's still an eyesore. Less is more.
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>>49308791
full art

Anon posting Tierese art; her shit is so good BECAUSE she istn dull and goes full ham on details and shit.
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>>49309060
Is that guys dick a church?
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>>49309169
>The thing that isn't obtained, speaks silence, and unexpectedly gives voice to feelings.
The fuck does that mean?
Nice art, though
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>>49309225
When you acheive nothing it doesn't mean anything, and yet it gives you feelings.

Like if I want to be champion and I dont get the win, the cup isnt sayings hit because i dont have it; but I still feel horrible.
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>>49308997
These are the kind of names me and my friends would come up with as kids. long names or smashing words that make no sense together.
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Because westerners like different things. They also like to pretend that they have good taste.
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>>49309007
Chuuni as fuck.
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>>49309323


nice art, but its a shame that magic's art on the cards is about the size of 2 postage stamps.

shame they need to waste more than half the card on a pointless black border and big white text boxes that are rarely filled even halfway.
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I will admit Japanese based card games do have more color to them. MtG is guilty of doom and gloom sets that force their artists to use limited color palettes and conform to a more uniform style to give their worlds consistency.

Kaladesh definitely helps with that open, cheerful look they have going on, so you get more colors.
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>>49308674
That art looks like the musical equivalent to someone screaming their high school poetry into one of your ears while drilling into your other ear.

Insane is a good word to describe it. Trash, horrible and ugly are others.
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>>49309253
They do make sense but just in a more abstract sense.

Go to hell kills shit , Ogre warrior kaiser "win' is an Ogre, a warrior and a kaiser who wins Shangri-La is truly a climax of cruelty (when it attacks it send a creature into the deck and when its tapped your opponents cant attack at all) Forever Princess would rule for an eternity given she is forever and so on.

Like Supreme Real Dragon Soul, All Over the World
Supreme: It's the ultimate weapon(look at those stats)
Real: It's Real as fuck
Dragon :It's a dragon
Soul: It is literally made out of churches, that combine together like Voltron (see pic realted)
All of the World: It's literally all of the world because its the size of the planet see

>>49309197
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looks like a retard slapped his dick on a canvas
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>>49309451
This is from cfv
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>>49309457
Even mtg characters look based in dm

this is nciol Bolas
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>>49309395
But you can easily name something with less words. Over descriptive names are retarded
>>49309416
Look at this. It's called The Mimeoplasm. That's all you need to know.

Look at these two. They're Gisa and Geralf. You don't need to be told that they are Necromancer Gisa and Stitcher Geralf, Supreme Zombie Resurrecting Cecani Twins. You can tell that by the card itself.
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>>49309490
>>49309500
Supreme Real Dragon Soul's primary theme is being huge and big as fuck; the long name just drives that home.

It's a giant dragon robot made from five carsd stuck together in a V with stats that are physically impossible for most games. Subtlety is not its string suit

But it's not like most of them have a lot of words; they are basically using the "Name, title" format of mtg legends in a more fun way.

Like Utopia Ever, Zenith of '"Destruction" (yes the quote are in the name)

thats basically the same set up as say 'Momir Vig, Simic Visionary" or 'jace, the living Guildpack"
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>>49308674
>Art from Vangaurd and Duel masters is fucking insane
>Both sell like shit compared to Magic
>"Why do Western tcgs have such toned down art?"
Because it sells
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>>49309500
>Gisa CROSS Geralf, Twin Rhapsody in Death
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>>49309595
Duelmasters is the biggest selling card game in japan by massive margins
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>>49309595
And just looking it up Yugioh is still the best selling card game in the world.

They have more cards in circulation that most world currencies.
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>>49308674
>Specifying TCG so you can't get blown the fuck out by Netrunner

Very smart OP.
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>>49309658
>he actually thinks that looks good
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>>49308674
Insanely bad, you mean?
Not being this eye-searingly candy-vomit-Technicolor oversaturated isn't "toned down".
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>>49309681

It's not a matter of good, it's a matter of "crazy mess of detail with bright colours" like OP wants.
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>>49309751
nah ur trash lmao
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>>49309860
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>>49308791
Is this like the Exodia of Duel Masters?
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>>49309948
keep proving me right;)
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What is it with MTG these days and their not 100% fixed art style but the vast majority of cards seem to be of a similar style.

The concepts for the art is often good but something just feels, off about certain bits of some pictures.

Blood Artist here is a good example. The backgrounds is great but the character who is the focus just looks so ... I'm not sure. Too clean maybe? Something just isn't right with him.
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>>49310260
At least I can tell that he's a fucking vampire making a painting with a person's blood
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>>49308674
Card game art is pretty shitty if you need to read the name to understand what it is.
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>>49308674
>>49308791
>>49308811
>>49308825
>>49308840
>>49309060
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>>49309428
>>49309451
Duel Masters actually has(had?) good art, but these are not examples of it. It can be more explosive and dynamic than magics more painterly style without degenerating into rainbow light effects and shit. Design is fun too, representative magic creatures are white angel, red dragon, black zombie, green elf, blue wizard. Representative DM creatures are white evangelion angel, red cybernetic tank, black zombie chimera, green humanoid vegetable, blue sentient water people.
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>>49310389

Oh totally, didn't mean to relate it to the OP just when looking at some of the art above then looking for more to post I noticed a lot seemed, odd slightly.

I've not played MtG in years.
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>>49308674
Being contrarian to most other people on a specific board or 4chan in general, simply for the sake of being contrarian, is a long standing tradition. Glad to see it's still around.
But let's not forget that's how the alt-right (or at least /pol/itics) got started
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>not posting best art
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check out this sweet duel masters art, it's called "Lord of the Jungle IceMane - Final Pearl Tiger"
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>>49308674
>Japanese """"""art"""""""
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>>49309751
And it does 'crazy mess of detail with bright colors' without me needing to vomit in a bucket, unlike most of the vanguard art I've seen in the thread.
Still not my preferred style, but nice to show counter-examples.
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>>49311553
Netrunner also manages to mostly not use card names that sound like something a twelve year old would think sounds cool.
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>>49309975
no. it's like meld.

but each of the five pieces is an artifact with and etb ability and nothing else

they don't go in main deck and can only be summoned from the extra deck/sideboard by a subtype of creatures that get one out when they etb (the biggest one gets 2 out and costs 9)
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>>49311604
>Not liking VIOLENCE HEAVEN
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>>49310876
why didn't mtg do this joke for its unset
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>>49311173
kek'd
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>>49312671
But it did
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>>49312722
>>49311173
I want

'if this card was in duelmasters" name jokes to become a thing
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>>49308997
>Supernova_Jupiter_King_Empire
Is his... NAME Empire?
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>>49313204
What the fuck is Dragon logic?

Why is Bolbazak a dragon twice?

Whats a geo Rebirth Universe, how is that a creature?


Galxy Blade ZA FINARU sounds cool as fuck thouh
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>>49308674
Because those are fucking unreadable.
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>>49313187
I want this more than I've wanted anything else
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>>49313547
Jace Prodigy, Illusion Mind Sculpt
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>>49313680
Master Prodigy of Vryn, Illusionist Jace Mind Sculpter Savant EX
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>>49313933
Nah still too coherent, its not just random words, they even do weird shit like using plurals as proper nouns or having entire phrases as someones name or stuff that while grammarlyc orrect, seems weird and off

Shangri-La, Climax of "Cruelty"
Utopia Ever, Zenith of "Destruction"
Spice Queens, Inga's Holy Evil

wait

British ROCK, Shentonginus

no fucking way thats a card
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Yugioh art is nice sometimes. Picture may or may not prove my point.
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>>49313997
Yu-Gi-Oh art is pretty good. It does the high-detail colorful designs like Duel Masters but not as extreme and much cleaner and elegant.
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I really enjoyed vanguard while I was playing it.

The problem with vanguard is that it was horribly misrepresented. The majority of the people that played it took one look at the trigger mechanic and said "shitty luckhax game."

People have a psychological bias toward familiar risks even if they are much worse. This is part of the behavior of people who are abuse victims.

Died to mana screw? That's part of the game, whatever.
Died because the game snowballed out of control because your opponent drew the necessary kill spell or ridiculous early threat? Whatever.
Died because you bricked hard, and your hand didn't do anything? Part of the game.
Died because your opponent special summoned a huge field and one-shot you? That's just part of the game.

None of those kinds of variance are a major part of vanguard. Vanguard doesn't have a significant amount of screw, bricking, or early kill combos, and it has mechanics that heavily mitigate those effects. Died because you refused to guard with one more card in a game where you easily draw 4+ cards a turn? Shitty luckhax game.

The lesson we learn from the design of vanguard is that people are not rational creatures.

Another reason why vanguard isn't one of the big TCGs is because it puts you under constant pressure. Many TCG players like to live in an illusion of safety in a tabletop fight to the death and they dislike a game where you have an average of six turns to live, and it's possible to die unexpectedly. A lot of card games go through a great deal of effort to design an environment that hides variance, rather than putting it on display.
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>>49314236
Why did that game peter out again? I liked it as a whole (Played Bermuda) but it seems to have dissipated in favor of FoW. Didn't Bushiroad have distribution problems?

While I definitely agree with you in terms of how luck worked, I think that the exact opposite can be as bad. Weiss Schwarz for example was railroaded and uninteresting.
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>>49311553
>unlike most of the vanguard art I've seen in the thread.
>all the "Look how colorful and detailed this Jap art is!" in thread is Kaijudo/Duel Masters
Vanguard can actually look pretty decent when it isn't a mega-ultra-rare card getting foiled to hell and back while losing the bottom half of its art to the text box.
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>>49314289
The fundamental marketing issue of vanguard is a culture difference.

In Japan, children in primary school mostly live within walking distance of their FLGS, and they have multiple anime TV channels. Japanese currency is also often handled in orders of magnitude, and their language handles nasty numbers like 40,000 in a pleasing way.

Vanguard is going stronger in Europe at the moment, but the USA is a country where the drive to your FLGS can be equivalent to traveling to another country in other parts of the world. As a result, the TCG market in the USA is older because everybody needs a car.

Bushi basically makes very little money off vanguard in the USA. They have no advertising, their tournament structure is designed to appeal to a market that doesn't exist in the USA, and the print runs of English-language cards can only sustain card shop microcosms and ebay-scalpers.

Vanguard isn't dead in the west, but small TCGs live and die by local communities. Your region might have 50 person tournaments or 16 or even 0. It's just like playing any other niche scene, like fighting games that aren't melee or SF.
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>>49309357
Ancestral Recall guy is framed on the wall

Goddamn that's a good easter egg
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>>49308997
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>>49308811
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>>49308840


jesus fucking christ those are deviantart OC tier
>obnoxiously long nonsense names
>giant swords and excess wings

what game is this? im gonna have a seizure just looking at this shit
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I tend to think that, outside of the mandatory derp-face per set, Force of Will is pretty good with detail and color.
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>>49314405
>attack and defense are not placed next to each other
>defense is just hanging out sideways on the edge of the card
I'm just gonna assume you place the cards sideways for 'defense' mode as the only explainable reason for that formatting

>flavor text above rules text
>rules text above card name
>stats have full names AND symbols next to their numbers
>number bloat
I don't care that Japanese are used to doing math with arbitrarily large numbers, it takes up a stupid amount of card space
>Grab Hand Gorilla, a Grade 1 Normal Unit Link Joker Cyber Beast
just fucking kill me. Japanese card games are ugly on a conceptual level
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>>49316801
>I'm just gonna assume you place the cards sideways for 'defense' mode as the only explainable reason for that formatting
You discard dudes sideways from your hand to block attacks, so yes, that's what's going on. The side placement makes it easy to stack a bunch of cards up and still have the shield values visible, just in case you want a ridiculously large number for some reason.

>I don't care that Japanese are used to doing math with arbitrarily large numbers, it takes up a stupid amount of card space
>He says of a card with art stretching three quarters of the way down, four fifths if you don't count the tiny semi-transparent text boxes

>just fucking kill me. Japanese card games are ugly on a conceptual level
>he's never seen a creature in M:tG with a name, casting cost, and race and class keywords
>or ICE in Netrunner with a name, rez cost, and more than one type keyword
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>>49316801
The defense, or rather "shield" value is on the side because you need to see the shield value of each card in your hand when it is held as a fan.

>Grab Hand Gorilla, a Grade 1 Normal Unit Link Joker Cyber Beast
just fucking kill me. Japanese card games are ugly on a conceptual level
Elvish mystic, a one-G creature spell elf shaman is the same amount of labels.

The only real criticism you touched on is that the gorilla doesn't make it very clear where it belongs. Link joker is printed above cyber beast, which indicates significance, but the clan should really be more prominent. At first glance, the card appears to have two creature types and belong to a "star-nation flag" deck.
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>>49316414
duelmasters.

Think mtg's candyflipping little brother
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>>49314236
the issue with vanguard is, it is heavily luck based because triggers exist, and it requires you to ride(upgrade) at a similar pace to your opponent which requires you to actually have a correct graded card, both these mechanics suffer the same problem lands do in mtg and that is you can get screwed on the draw/check, not only that but damage depleting your deck work in a game like zatch bell where your deck is ordered for it but in vanguard its shuffled so it is possible all copies of a key card can end up as damage.
you can get fucked by luck way more in vanguard than any other game.
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>>49318102
cfv is built on cardcounting, testing,probaility algorithms and decision trees
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>>49318579
This.

There's actually quite a bit to it.
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>>49318102
Grade screw is unlikely in vanguard due to
#1: Ratios.
#2: You draw more cards in vanguard
#3: More lenient mulligans.

>so it is possible all copies of a key card can end up as damage
That's HIGHLY unlikely. You can have five damage at most and you end up drawing over fifteen cards on average at about turn 6 in vanguard. Poor analysis.
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Guess what game this is from.
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>>49318579
This, and that's actually the real problem with the game.

I haven't played for a few years but when I left off, every meta came down to a very small subset of extremely optimized decks that auto-piloted themselves. The irony is that the game gives off the appearance of too much variance when it doesn't have nearly enough.
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readability. and I don't just mean being able to read the card text. I have no idea what's going on in the art either.
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>>49308674
Because too much detail on a piece makes it hard to figure out where to focus. Paintings and photography follow a 3x3 grid for positioning for a reason.

See: >>49308791
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>>49314453
>melee
>fighting game

Now I know how /k/ommandos feel when someone says clip instead of magazine.
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>>49319054
Mitos y Leyendas?
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>>49319494
I've heard this meme ever since the melee boards opened on gamefaqs and I've never seen a real explanation for why melee shouldn't be considered a fighting game that didn't reduce to SF2 and GGXX^core dickwaving. The clip/magazine thing is a technical distinction, not a salty community.

Melee defeated airdashers in the west, it's a long lost battle. Deal with it.

~a man who prefers airdashers to melee
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>>49319593
Nope
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>>49316526
FoW is usually pretty good at being vibrant while not being too gaudy and still being pretty nicely drawn. It varies from artist to artist, but the fact that there are multiple artists each drawing the same characters in their own way instead of one uniform style is just another thing I like.
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>>49316526
These new borders are literal shit tier though. I have no idea who okayed P/T on the side like that and whoever picked the name font needs their eyes checked.

Granted it's not a big deal to me because I got out of that game as soon as it became obvious the devs had no idea what balance was, but I always thought the card layouts were the strongest thing about the game art-wise.
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Thoughts on this upcoming archetype
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>>49320351
It's going to be broken for a month, have cards that were obviously designed by a dartboard, completely invalidate every previous archetype with similar abilities. At the end of the month, konami will hit one of their boss cards, then they will be less broken for a little while longer. Finally, a new archetype will come along that will make them obsolete. When that happens, the old one will be thrown into the pile with the rest of the 100 archetypes in yugioh to never get support again.
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>>49320305
I hope the banning of R/R is a sign of better balance to come. Still a little salt over TaFT though.
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>>49309395
You say it makes sense in an abstract way, but I can't think of a more literal way to put it.

How about we take that long, literal description of what it is, and turn it into... Oneoth, the Hegemon (or, the Godhead, or Thrice Blessed, or whatever). Sounds like a proper name, instead of "ah dangs, it's like a... Supreme... Real Dragon Soul, but like, all over the world"
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>>49321614
I'm pretty sure it's the japanese that's making it sound retarded in english, the actual official english names of the cards that were released outside of japan all sound okay.
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>>49320351
What is it based of? Chinese Zodiac?
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>>49308674
I like it but I feel like Hiroshima is going on in my head looking at.
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>>49308674
Because 'Western' cards concentrate on being readable and those three simply aren't readable.
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>>49321850
That's a good point.
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>>49321958
Yes
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>>49320351
Yugioh gets way to linear now.

#Bringbackthebattlepack
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>>49321614
Good point; I kinda like that literalism; its an extension of the fun of fantasy characters named shit like HELLSCREAM or MINDBREAKER or DEATHTHRASHER or BREAKER OF CHAINS and shit
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>>49321850
But this is what the English set names were:

DM-02: Evo-Crushinators of Doom
DM-03: Rampage of the Super Warriors
DM-04: Shadowclash of Blinding Night
DM-05: Survivors of the Megapocalypse
DM-06: Stomp-A-Trons of Invincible Wrath
DM-07: Thundercharge of Ultra Destruction
DM-08: Epic Dragons of Hyperchaos
DM-09: Fatal Brood of Infinite Ruin
DM-10: Shockwaves of the Shattered Rainbow
DM-11: Blast-O-Splosion of Gigantic Rage
DM-12: Thrash of the Hybrid Megacreatures
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>>49321614
DM has a bunch 'Name,title" cards like that too.

Like

British ROCK, Shentonginus
Ginger, True Flash Believer
Evidence, Truth Gun
Multiply, Double Dragon Gun
Discald, Misfortune Demon Sickle
Gaiohburn, Head General Sword
Gaial, Leader Dragon Sword
Diabolos, Prison Dragon Blade
Spice Queens, Inga's Holy Evil
Wendigo Apache, Izanai's Blank
Shiranui, Mantra's Roaring
Kinako, Familia's Defenseless
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>>49324452
Someone on their localization team is getting paid to have the time of his life naming this shit.
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>>49324603
It's funny because even though its a japanese game; its made by americans in washington.

So that means these guys have to come up with crazy ass names to suit japanese tastes, and THEN back translate them to english
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>>49324715
Well, I've found my dream job.
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>>49308811
>>49308791
>>49308674

because i can't tell what the fuck is going on. is it a dragon? a mech? a guy in armor? i have no fucking clue.

it looks like someone drank colors and threw up on a card. its shit kid, absolute shit.
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>>49308674
This is some real goddam Lisa Frank bullshit.

What is even happening on these moon speak cards?
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>>49324471
I love how they name there cycles

for example:

Ultra Knight Punk, Shentury
British ROCK, Shentonginus
Bhutan POP, Shenton

or

Noble Adele, Light Weapon
Patti Smith, Light Weapon
Perfect Madonna, Light Weapon
Spark Beyonce, Light Weapon

Or how every god Nova was a band reference

Libertines, Fuuma Left God
Justice, Lord of Spirits Left God
Pearljam, Faerie Left God
Square Pusher, Fantasy Left God

Daft Punk, Lord of Demons Right God
Massive Attack, Battle Attacking Right God
Nirvana, Spirit Knight Right God
Strokes, Explosive Right God

Bloody Valentine, Holy Princess Left God
Jesus Mary Chain, True Flashing Right God

Devo, Twin Demon Left God
Pearljam, Faerie Left God

Kraft Werk, Twin Heaven Right God
Nirvana, Spirit Knight Right God

Vitalic, Sword Flash Left God
Humanity, Nameless God
New Order, Demonic Eye Right God
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>>49324992
>Detroit techno, Sacred Demon
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