Where did the entire "single demonic arm" fantasy gimmick

>>49292439
It shows up MUCH more in Japanese-inspired works then American ones, especially the type you're talking about where the limb has actual superpowers the rest of the body has not.
The earliest example in Western fantasy that I can find is the comic Claw the Unconqured, in which the Conan-knockoff hero has a deformed, claw-like left hand that otherwise functions exactly like his other arm.
The examples you cited are all from the late 00's, which while some time ago now is well over seven or eight years after anime increasingly became consumed by the American public.

I don't know exactly where the Japanese thing for it comes from, beyond a desire for artists to draw their character's differently.

>>49292439
>Where did the entire "single demonic arm" fantasy gimmick start?

Pirates.
Later picked up and expanded on because it provides and interesting asymmetry.

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>>49292439
>>49292501
In the west the weapon is seen as tool of the warrior. In eastern literature it is an extension of his honor, soul or will, in a way an integral part of the warrior. Thus combining depiction warrior and weapon is the next step in this philosophy. Another usage of the motif is piloting giant robots.

>>49292439
My uneducated guess is that the Japanese do it because some kind of Japanese folklore (a lot of anime is full of references to Japanese culture, folklore and history, and a lot of their special weapons are named after Japanese historical artefacts) and the West more or less mindlessly copied it because it's "cool".

Kind of like how in anime loads of characters wear crucifixes even though only a minority of them are actually Christian. A crucifix is just "cool" to them. Or how the Nips think Marie-Antoinette was cool and classy and charming, while in France she's the symbol of a decaying and corrupt monarchy.

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>>49292439

Crabs with one giant claw and one regular claw, also Baseball Pictures and their one giant glove.

>>49292439

A really cute Sci-Fi take on the thing is Parasite, where the arm is actually a shapeshifting alien

The arm may or may not shift into a giant penis during the manga

>>49294960

Errr.

The English translation uses Parasyte.

... And made the alien a lefty.

Alien hand syndrome

>>49292501
I'd say that Corum predates Claw the Unconquered by a decade.

Partly inspired by Nuada of the Silver Hand, I believe, but with a dark Moorcockian twist.

I can't remember the exact movie, but I believe it was Strangelove that had the hand that tried to murder people.

>>49292439
I'd always assumed it was some kinda chuuni bullshit. Just like characters who have demons sealed into them, or some other kinda unholy power they don't like using.

>>49295401
Dr Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb; 1964

The character was the eponymous Dr Strangelove, a former Nazi scientist and polymath working as an advisor for the US government, whose hand exhibits evidence of being outside his conscious control. It snaps off Nazi salutes, and at one point tries to strangle him in apparent retribution for him trying to stop it from doing a Nazi salute.

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Does the Hand of Vecna count? It's not quite an arm, but it's close.

>>49294919
>Baseball Pictures
I'm going to assume that was an awesome autocorrect fail. Because that is awesome.

Can it ever be a fae arm and not a demon arm?

>>49297371
avoiding touch of iron would be quite a challenge

>>49292439
In addition to what a lot of people have already said, where -else- are you going to seal a demon, exactly?

I mean, for one, think about it. The more space a demon takes up, logically, the more powerful it seems. Having a demon locked away in my ring finger or left testicle isn't going to be intimidating, cool, or really much of anything.

So, what does that leave? Can't be the head- it's awkward and implies that the human isn't actually in control or having any struggles containing the demon, so that's no good. Can't really be the body, that's also inconvenient to show off and implies a wicked core.

That leaves arms and legs. Which one are you -really- going to pick? Especially for asymmetry?

The arm's really just the best choice if you're going for a visual representation of sealed demons attached to an otherwise human host.

>>49297907
>where -else- are you going to seal a demon, exactly?

Anus.

>>49297907
I'm a fan of an eye myself.

But the arm does lead in nicely to the back if you want to get any kind of wing mode going on.

>>49297907
A toenail clipping.

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>>49298089
>I'm a fan of an eye myself.

Summon up the power of the God Hand!
(God Hand!)

>>49297907
>Having a demon locked away in my ring finger or left testicle
I've read that porn.

>>49298136
Dragon kick your ass into the milky way!
(Milky way!)

>>49298172
Damn good porn, too. With a good story that goes beyond excuse plot.

>>49298212
Don't act like you don't like the ball buster!
(Ball buster!)

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D&D 3.5 also let you have a demonic/draconic/warforged/aberrant/whatever arm through grafts.

Am I misremembering?

>>49298261
Yes, and there is an entire PrC dedicated to grafts.

>>49297907

You know, I think it would be cool to have a demon or something bound into your leg(s) so you can have awesome kicking skills

>>49298404
Wasn't that part of the plot of Shaolin Soccer?

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>>49298637
>>49298404

>>49298172
>>49298218
Oretama, yes?

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>>49298685
Keijo is surprisingly fun.
>>49297907
Fan of the eye, personally though I do also like the arm. In the simplest sense, I'd say arm for blaster caster and eye for a more save or suck character. Getting a big ole demon in the eye generally gives far less immediate powers.

>>49298685
What the fuck man?

>>49292757
Source/examples?

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>>49300181
Look man, weird shit lie ahead. Tread no further.

>>49294919
>>49296770
> THIS UNENDING POWER SURGES THROUGH MY PITCHERS HAND
> SHATTERING SPACE, SHATTERING TIME
> ROCKET FORTH, AND SPIN TOWARDS DESTINY
> SUPAH
> TORUNADO
> PITCHA
> https://youtu.be/i4HC4amBQJU

>>49300072
Eyes also have the "window to the soul" angle, so while a demon arm is scary, a demon eye implies something "else" going on (even if it's not). Also the slightly more "subtle" options than "MY ARM IS NOW SUPER DEMONIC!"

The only Western media where I remember there being a possessed/demonic arm was Evil Dead, where Ash is forced to cut off and kill his hand because it keeps trying to kill him.

>>49300681

Unless it pops out and starts slapping against people.

>>49300783
> Knifeeyeattack.jpg

>>49300783
>Demonic eye that can be removed and turns into a demonic flail weapon.

Sounds awesome to me.

>>49298333
>>49298261
There's also the Renegade Mastermaker for robot arms.

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>tfw you remember how you used to claim to have a demonic left arm in middle school.
THANKS A LOT /tg/ I TRIED TO BURY MY AUTISITIC ADOLESCENSE FOR A REASON!

>>49302640

Yhat wasn't Autistic.


That was tryhard young scrub.

>>49302640
Don't worry, because you still have that Soul of an Eldritch mutated Dragon sealed in your kidneys, right? You didn't let yours escape, did you?

>>49292788
Funny you mention that, because often times those giant robots are piloted with his honor, soul, and will.
Not to sound weebish, but it is a great philosophy; it takes basis from ways of life and thinking that have existed for thousands of years, and applies it in new and interesting ways.

>>49300292
>Fucking DM can't keep his fetishes out of our games

>>49292788
>In eastern literature it is an extension of his honor, soul or will, in a way an integral part of the warrior.

In one part of Asia anyway.
This may come as a shock to you, but there actually were no samurai at all in China or any other part of mainland Asia, and the Hagakure wasn't a particularly big seller there either.

>>49292439
Funny enough, I could use more art of characters with demon-arms like that. Any have more?

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Another example is Princess Mononoke, and one guy in Puyo Puyo has a single demonic arm.

>>49304790
Only one I have.

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>>49304790
Here's one.

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>>49292439
>Where did the entire "single demonic arm" fantasy gimmick start?

Evil Death. Some people probably also read a lot into the bible quote about one hand being unaware of the other hand's actions.

>>49305032
I find it funny that a phrase which means "Do not seek fame by being charitable" was twisted into "You have no fucking clue what's going on"

>>49304120
Nobody really cares about China, dear.

>>49305059
From the same book "Make people who disagree with you commit a crime so that you can sue them" was turned into: "tolerate everybody's opinions"

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>>49298136
>>49298212
>>49298233

>>49305149
The USA cares enough to dispute claims China already rightfully had 200 years before the US was founded.

>>49302937
>Sealing a demon in your liver
>It takes revenge by never letting you get drunk again

>>49300783
https://youtube.com/watch?v=P99bYXNBAhQ

>>49304999
Is that some Ikusa Megami shit I see?

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>>49292501
>It shows up MUCH more in Japanese-inspired works then American ones, especially the type you're talking about where the limb has actual superpowers the rest of the body has not.

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Victarion Greyjoy in aSoIaF basically gets one of these.

>>49305463
Folks getting one hand cursed to rot away was an element in celtic legends, I think.

One of their legendary kings had somebody craft a replacement hand for the one he lost, so that his pretty stat wouldn't drop below what is required for kingship. Apparently the hand was so fancy that he became the prettiest and the goddess who owns all of Ireland made him her husbando and king of Ireland forever.

>>49302640
Pffft, please.

My Childhood Chuunibyou gimmick was that I thought I was a regeneration of The Doctor.

>>49292439
Celtic myth.

Look up "Nuada of the Silver Arm" why don't you.

>>49302640
I uh.... hi everyone, I'm anon and I did the L from death note thing as a kid. I've been clean for eight years, but some of the newer anime that's out has me on the edge or relapsing.

>>49305577
Hello anon.

>>49305577
Ah, Hello Anon. Perhaps you could assist me with a little mystery case?

Here, have some music to help you relax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTGlrcReWrk

We've got sweets available.

>>49305306
I was just on my way over to the tubes to listen to this band.

Then I saw this. Nice.

Not demonic, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tz_von_Berlichingen

>>49305597
There are many types of monsters in this world. Monsters who will not show themselves, and who cause trouble. Monsters who abduct children. Monsters who devour dreams. Monsters who suck blood. And monsters who always tell lies. Lying monsters are a real nuisance, they are much more cunning than other monsters. They pose as humans even though they have no understanding of the human heart. They eat even though they've never experienced hunger. They study even though they have no interested in academics. They seek friendship even though they do not know how to love. If I were to encounter such a monster, I would likely be eaten by it. Because in truth, I am that monster.


... where are my shoes?
Why do I have all 25 episodes of the series out again?
Light damn it.

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>>49304790

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>>49305714

>>49305597
I reckon L's theme was a missed opportunity. If you're going to make a piece that's obviously based on Tubular Bells, then you might as well use more than just the first part of it.

>>49305727
>L's theme is based on Tubular Bells
How did I not realize this until now!?

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>>49305725

>>49305733
Because you're unobservant

>>49302640
>There are people ITT who didn't believe they had magic powers when they were chuunis

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>>49305753

>>49299020
Yes, senpai.

>>49305777
I'm able to run my hand along a wall and tell where its solid cement and where its hollow. I can also identify various woods and metals by touch. This is especially useful at work as I work with a lot of wood and a lot of it has dark stains making it unidentifiable at a glance.

I have the superpower of perceiving density with a glancing touch.

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>>49302640

Wait kids actually do that shit outside of Nippon?

I FEEL THE CRINGE OVERTAKING ME,

IT IS A GOOD PAIN!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>49302640
No man, that's just being a teeny-weeny weebling.

Autism is when you spend hundreds of dollars on books so you can study to become a real motherfucking wizard, with like, salt and fire and shit.

>>49305777
Magic? Not probable, but when all other possibilities are eliminated than what remains no matter how unlikely must be the truth. Honestly though, that's kind of the boring answer. Who needs boring abilities like that when you could have superior perception and a rival?

It seems like nobody has addressed the most important question: If you jack off with your demonic arm is it technically still masturbation, or is it the demonic spirit giving you a handy?

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Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

>>49305828
>Wait kids actually do that shit outside of Nippon?

Kids will be kids. Some of them grow up to believe in conspiracy theories.

>>49305877
Hi Siegfried. You're a little late to the party here, aren't you?

>>49305911
Siegfried is dead!

Only the Azure Nightmare remains!

There is... no going back.

>>49305925
B-but you posted SC2 Nightmare, senpai...

>>49305934
The spoiler is a quote from him.

...I think, It's been like a decade since I played that. Which is a pity, arguably best game in the series.

>>49300248
>Source/examples?
Captain fucking Hook you dumbass.

>>49305945
It was a good game, but honestly I preferred 3. Good story mode, and I actually enjoyed Chronicles of the Sword.

>>49305945
You mean Soul Calibur 3, right?

>>49305970
He said arguably. Either way, wrong board for this conversation.

>>49305959
>>49305970

Regarding gameplay, 3rd was a lowpoint of the series. Everything else was top notch.

Although, 2 probably also had the best character designs, or at least the ones I like the most.

>>49305980
>Regarding gameplay, 3rd was a lowpoint of the series.
I'd honestly say 4 was. I can't remember what it was, but something about 4's gameplay really rubbed me the wrong way to the point where I just went back to playing 3 when I felt like playing a Soul Calibur since I didn't own 1 or 2 at the time.

>>49306008
>Input lag
>Online lag
>shit online system anyway
>costumes affect stats

On the other hand, 3 had dick-tier AI that was either goldfish simple or would constantly guard impact you.

>>49305898
I just never encountered stuff like that in my schools, mind you I and others I knew did plenty of dumb shit to try to look cool or fit in, but claiming/believing they were magic in some way never really happened, so I assumed the trope was almost purely a nippon thing. You know, due to the nips being all weird and regimented with their children/schools, more crazy outliers occur, like the catholic schoolgirl meme/reality (every girl I have ever met with a virtue name has been a slut, and god help her if her name is 'Chastity').

>>49292439
I'm going to guess, at least for some Eastern Cultures, it is related to Chakra (or equivalent term/system). Your Dominant Hand Chakra is related to Using/Giving Energy whilst your non-dominant hand is related to receiving energy.

So, sealing a demon in your dominant hand/arm makes sense as you would be able to channel that energy and use it.

>>49306008
Could be what >>49306032 says. I never really got into 4 or 5.

>>49306032
>On the other hand, 3 had dick-tier AI that was either goldfish simple or would constantly guard impact you.

While true, I personally like SC because of the competitive element, so it didn't affect me much.

The really bad balance, gamebreaking bugs, and just all around fucking stupid frame data and movelist changes did tho.

Goddamn, Only one mention of Nuada.

You people disgust me.

>>49306069
Two, actually, you dumbfuck.

>>49306069
>Physically perfect silver arm
>having no magical properties other than being a functional prosthetic
>in any way at all related to Nipwad Demon Arm cliche

>>49305181
All pre-1900 claims were voided when you failed you keep your citizens from getting hooked on the opiums. And doublevoided when you thought the Boxer's magic shirts would protect them from my great-great-grandfather's 8mm Mauser

>>49292439
If you see a player or a DM who talks about "loli", report him to the police because he's definitely a pedophile.

>>49306206
Wrong thread there, friendo. /pfg/ is that way:
>>49302705

>>49306180
>All pre-1900 claims were voided when you failed you keep your citizens from getting hooked on the opiums.
The War on Drugs in the US failed, Anon.

>And doublevoided when you thought the Boxer's magic shirts would protect them from my great-great-grandfather's 8mm Mauser
I should really look up that book some US dude wrote about his tours in Iraq. He spent a chapter on discussing how most of the men in his unit carried magical amulets to protect them from bullets.

Time to pack up and see if the English want you back, I guess.

>>49305181
That was old China. It's a new country now, remember? A great communist one. Nothing at all like that corrupt and despotic old China.

>>49292439
It came from combining the idea of magic prosthetics (an idea so old the celts and norse were into it) and "dude demon powers look edgy and sick as fuck how do we give a good guy some of those" discussions being thrown at the wall. The ideas met and stuck.

Besides, if you're gonna have to sacrifice a piece of yourself to keep a demon sealed away, why not make it a part you can weaponize? You get to beat up other baddies with your cool hellfire technique and simultaneously repeatedly smack the demon around by making him crash head-on into everything that pisses you off.

>>49306391
>That was old China. It's a new country now, remember?
Using such old documents is the regular way of making such claims while having a third party sue at a random international institution not even in charge of these matters is highly irregular and bogus.

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You Edge levels are pitiful witness my power of true demon arm edgyness!

>>49302640
Heh, please, step it up, anon.
I used to believe that I was basically Haruhi, myself.
Another very interesting example was when I decided I was going to be a ninja when I grew up, and all my friends were going to as well. Mind you, this was before Naruto and all that bullshit, I wanted to be just the shuriken-throwing ninja wearing those kabuki outfits.
So I created the "Ninja Club", and proceeded to get EVERY SINGLE GUY IN MY CLASS TO JOIN IT AND BECOME A NINJA TOO. Then we'd spend the interval doing "ninja stuff". Oh boy.

>>49306575
>So I created the "Ninja Club", and proceeded to get EVERY SINGLE GUY IN MY CLASS TO JOIN IT AND BECOME A NINJA TOO. Then we'd spend the interval doing "ninja stuff".
This sounds amazing.
I was also a ninja.

>>49306263
>The War on Drugs in the US failed, Anon.
The War on Drugs was a pretense for the US government to crack down on the hippie and black empowerment movements.
If you are going to use shit as examples, at least be right about them.
>He spent a chapter on discussing how most of the men in his unit carried magical amulets to protect them from bullets.
Those men still wore body armor and carried rifles. That's like saying it's the same thing as soldiers who carry a keepsake from a loved one on them.

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>>49306567
My sword has a motorcycle handle built into so I can wind it up it to light in ON FIRE! Cause that's how edgy I am!

>>49306575
Oh please.

I took ACTUAL ninjutsu training. I mastered the art of stealth, of the silent assassination, and of a variety of ranged weaponry.

I was always shit at hand-to-hand combat and melee weaponry though. I have this weird thing where when I'm fighting or sparring I start laughing uncontrollably.

>>49306550
Anon, you should drop the mudslinging unless you come from a position of something approaching righteousness, and China lost that almost a century ago.
They are, and have always been, no better than literally anyone else.

>>49306604
Is that edgy? I thought it was just delightfully over the top for the sake of fun.

>>49306604
No one thinks Nero is "edgy", because he's a goddamn kid and his attempts at edge as straight up laughable by design.
He's a punk kid and nothing else.

You can't have any discussion in /tg/ without /pol/, /his/, and /sjw/ coming in and shitting it the fuck up anymore.

>>49306097
Except as a source for "not your normal arm" which is what the thread is about, dumbfuck. Did you not know most Jap shit is based on European myth and legend yet?

>>49306602
>The War on Drugs was a pretense for the US government to crack down on the hippie and black empowerment movements.
Doesn't change the fact that the US can't stop the drugs from flowing in. And unlike the Chinese, they aren't even up against an Empire while dealing with a civil war killing millions of their citizens there.
>Those men still wore body armor and carried rifles.
They obviously didn't believe in body armor, just like the Boxers.
>That's like saying it's the same thing as soldiers who carry a keepsake from a loved one on them.
No, because they wore those too, as mementos but they explicitly accepted the amulets as something that would protect them from bullets and explosions.

Really, just get on the boat, the USA is over.

>>49306623
>They are, and have always been, no better than literally anyone else.
They at least are nice enough to fill the shallow graves of their Empire with their own first and foremost.

There's also Hellboy. Ahh. 90's.

>>49306604
I thought the engine sword was an awesome concept, not that it made any sense or needed to. Only Nero and Kyrie dragged down all the fun.

>>49306604

I do enjoy how Dante makes fun of him by "revving" up his sword the first time he fights him.

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>>49302640
>tfw you never had any delusions like demon arms or magic eyes because even as a kid, you knew you weren't special
I don't have any cringe stories but man I was sad all the time.

>>49292439
a demon sealed in the arm is pretty convinent and often allows it to be utilized in a direct , aggressive combat-related way.
on the other hand (no pun intended) , it can also stand for a horrible curse by taking a limb of its host for itself.
and it is easy to show off, since you often make gestures and use your hands for stuff.

in my current campaign i have homebrewed a demon arm perk that allows a character to use it to shoot fireballs or put more strength into blows, but gives heavy decreases in precision when doing things with it or both hands.
two-handed weapons/ archery and many tasks like crafting come close to impossible

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>>49307581
which one's better? Having cringeworthy stories that made your life hell and then the reality slap in the face? Or being a shitty normie who had nothing interesting going on and just played video games?

>>49307894
>which one's better?
I dunno. I guess I'm glad I never had any cringe, I guess.

Chunnis get into some fun, albeit cringe worthy shit.

I occasionally indulge this chunni girl I'm dating. Spent last weekend tailing a potential vampire. Turns out it was just some dude who enjoyed heroin in his spare time.

Up until we saw him buy the drugs, it was pretty fun playing along.

>>49296634
You can't mention the Hand of Vecna without mentioning the Head of Vecna

>>49292439
I think it started with this one germanic knight that lost his hand and got a mechanical one. Used to scare the crap out of people with it.

>>49308207
Götz von Berchelingen is the guy you're thinking about. Had a few plays written about him, most notably one by Goethe.

I think there's also a somewhat recent movie.

>>49305181
Nobody gives a shit about a communist's "rights" or "claims"

>>49310181
Rigth now, that "communist" nation offfers people actual chances to rise socially and economically through hard work, creativity and daring and doesn't nanny and coddle its population or its rich.

D&D had replacement limbs.
AD&D had replacement limbs.
Hence J AD&D got replacement limbs.

Whats Japan original is demon eyes and eye transplants.

>>49310766
Except that it's ideological state apparatus is too tight. By restricting free speech China has ultimately handicapped it's own development. Problems are being ignored and resentments are festering. The government will start crumbling under the strain of adapting to new technologies. Suppressing these technologies would put themselves behind more libertarian nations. Already, we see China suffering from previous mistakes. The one child policy has resulted in a shortage of women and the Yangtze is still fatally poisonous in some regions.

>>49310948
So long things are fine enough, China won't ever collapse.
Free speech really doesn't change that.

>>49305533
Yes. The mark of the supernatural has been widespread has existed longer than writing has.

The mark can be an actual mark, or it can be a deformed/altered body part. Even an additional body part that doesn't come standard.

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.