Warhammer 40k General

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Let's star this thread off with some bingo!

Anyone got traitors hate in PDF?

>>49284734
Revenge of the nerds you are not. Just tell them you're looking for a casual game if they ask you to play. Simples.

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Post cool conversions and models.

How do you guys feel about using 30k Legion Models but using 40k Marine rules? Is it terribly un-fluffy to run an Iron Hands army in 40k where they are all in stuff like MkIII or MkIV armour? I love the Iron Hands Legion models, but I don't really care for the Heresy Period of the fluff.

>>49284923
It's fine, just as long as everyone's not carrying around Volkite weaponry. Armor marks shouldn't really matter

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>>49284834
For every good looking Ork looted moble there's a thousand bad ones unfortunately.

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>Love summoning as daemons but every games ends with a crushing victory on my end
Just want to have an endless horde thats fair...

>>49284923

Why not run the 30k rules? They do a much better job of representing Iron Hands. And it nerfs the list a bit, making it easier to go against chaos and orks.

>>49284923
>Ship jumps in the warp
>Warp time fucks it
>30k marines come out in 40k
>They have spent 1 year their time for 10k years outside

There. Same reason Chaos has older tech. Warp time fucks.

>>49284970
>Armor marks shouldn't really matter
If you're being fluffy they should.

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>>49284834
>>49284993
Ill post some of my own terrible conversions

>>49285079
But yeah this here >>49285042

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>>49284834
Model I made for a friend awhile back, because he wanted a 'kustom mega choppa' from the space 0din dex.

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>>49285080

>>49284923
Bro, if you're playifg Iron Hands then just say they're using Relic armor. Heck, fluff-wise a lot of the richer chapters still use MkIII and IV.

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>>49285108

>>49285030
I haven't looked at the 30k Rules themselves much, but I may. I'm just trying to make sure the fluff of my army of MkIII Power Armour Iron Hands coming in to throw down with Tyranids and Necrons isn't going to be majorly fluff breaking.

>>49285042
This may be the solution I go with.

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>>49285125

>>49285124
Didn't the Iron Hands get most of their Heresy Era stuff shot to hell during the Drop Site Massacre?

>>49285125
Was that a Hess truck originally?

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>>49285138
And a bomb i made for an apoc game

>>49285079
I play Raptors. Fluffy armour marks for me is mixing and matching literally everything with no respect as to what goes where and with what. Because neither me or my chapter gives a fuck about tradition or the codex.

> Chapter insignia on the wrong side?
> MkVIII torso modified to accept MKVI helmet?
> MkIII armour with corvus helmets?
> Corvus helmets on literally everyone?
> Carving shit on the armour
> Removing the aquila on MkVII to accept a fucking MOLE PACK.
> Attaching MOLE Packs to every conceivable surface
> Giving absolutely zero fucks about squad organization.
> All sergeants are unmarked, because snipers.

>>49285167
Well, that's Raptors. So it jives.

>>49284774
Yeah, but shit like this>>49284627 happens - to some people, 'casual' means 'waac'. And they must be dealt with.

>>49285167
>Removing the aquila on MkVII to accept a fucking MOLE PACK.
>> Attaching MOLE Packs to every conceivable surface
How can one chapter be so /operational/?
How can Minotaurs compete?

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>>49285154
Oh, and my warboss

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>>49285193
But brother, how else do we Operate Operationally in Operational Zones?

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>>49285199
Blasta bommer

>>49285143
Nah. They just got most of their dudes dead. And their dad.

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>>49285108
>>49285125
Noice tanka.

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>>49285221
And a battlewagon landing craft

done

>>49285229
If most of their dudes died, it follows that the stuff they were wearing would stay on the battlefield, right?

>>49285167
Raptors anon, I no longer have any respect for you. I now hate you with the fury of a burning star. Go and die for your grand heresy of mixing armor.

REEEEEEEEE

MKVIII CANNOT ACCEPT PARTS FROM ANY OTHER MARK EXCEPT VII

MKII AND MKIII ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH OTHER MARKS WITHOUT EXTREME SKILL, SUCH AS FROM AN IRON-FATHER

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>49285188
>Crisis Suits are WAAC

>>49285264
Nah, a dude can die, but armor is easily replaceable/recoverable.

Plus later on they decided to go full tech-heresy and use the stuff Ferrus warned them to NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE and brought a bunc of dudes back as cyber-zombies.

>>49285005
>summoning
>fair
Pick one.

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>>49285265
Kekest of keks. Also paint is nigger, and cannot into smart-fill for a stupid red surface.

>>49285199
That's good looking. All of your stuff looks good.

>>49285317
They weren't easily recoverable from that battle, thats for sure.

>>49285321
Limit yourself in Psychic dice?

>>49285005
Houserule a summoning points pool from your list total.

So your main is 1700, with 300 points worth of summoning to use for that or something.

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>>49285265
Only the skills of an Iron Father you say? Really all we did was just take an apothecary's carnifex and chop open a gate in the MkVIII's gorget. That wasn't so hard! And now the corvus helmet fits!

>>49285330
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOUR MODELS GO AGAINST ALL FLUFF KNOWN TO MAN!

"FLUFFY" ARMOR FOR RAPTORS WOULD BE MKVI, JUST LIKE THE RAVEN GUARD!

YOU EVEN USE THE RG ONLY STUFF FOR YOUR ARMY IN GAMES, USING A READING THAT GOES BEYOND RAW ITSELF! SO RAW, IN FACT, THAT IT IS STILL BREATHING!


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49285385
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

MKVIII CANNOT SUPPORT THE SYSTEMS IN MKVI! IT IS ONLY COMPATIBLE WITH MKVII BECAUSE OF THIS! WHICH IS WHY CHAPTERS LIKE THE RAVEN GUARD REFUSE TO ADOPT IT!


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

you have no idea how much fun it is to sperg out like this.

>>49285375
Summoning isn't even overpowered unless you're playing against shitty opponents. Daemons are so fragile that you need to keep summoning new units just to survive the absurd levels of shooting other armies can put out. If you want to impose a handicap on yourself, don't bring additional units to summon, just keep bringing back stuff your opponent kills.

>>49285138
Oh shit nigga, the Chinork.

How did you make it?
I don't wanna pay forge world prices but I want to base my list around Vietnam era air assault infantry orks.

Me and a couple friends have decided to get into 40k so we can play against each other and I am proving to be bad at building an army. One is making a Tau army while the other is doing Necron. I was considering Tyranids but it sounds like they are mediocre so now I don't know what to use. Was also considering Nurgle themed CSM army or Blood Angels. I am looking to have an army that can do work but would rather avoid something completely cheesey since we are just playing for fun. Anyone have anything similar that can tell me if I am looking in the right direction or have some sort of recommendation?

>>49285422
Could you stop fucking up the thread like a faggot? No one cares about your stupid autistic whining. Just be quiet and go back to jerking off to wikipedia pages.

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>>49284834
Finished this about a month ago.

>>49285395
Except that shit happens, armour breaks, forgeworld's stop producing for your chapter for a variety of reasons, or you're out operating operationally for a long period of time with no access to resupply. The only ammo you have comes from whatever the fuck you brought, so you're forced to make every shot count, and rely only on your knife for whatever kills you think you can make without a shot, just to save ammo. You have no grenades, and the last sentry you knifed had a buddy watching him. Now you're out a shoulderpad and a helmet.

The techmarine assigned to your operator group only has spares of MkIII shoulderpads taken from the iron warriors you've been fighting, and a few MkVII helmets leftover. He chops open your MkVIII gorget and hands you a corvus helmet, then bolts an iron shoulderpad onto your armour.

You took the cultist's grenades at least, so you can take out another tank.

Welcome to the Raptors, have fun smearing mud on your armour and welding the fire selector to SINGLE SHOT despite carrying 500 bullets on you.
>>49285422
Your sperging amuses me endlessly. I can't stop laughing.

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Space Marines, Iron Hands Chapter Tactics

Terminator Captain-130
Relic blade
Captain-140
Power Axe, Power Sword, Artificer armor

Tactical Squad-165
10 marines, Combi-plasma, Plasma gun, The Imperial Space Marine

Tactical squad-85
5 marines, power sword

Dreadnought-120
Assault cannon, flamer fist

Dreadnought-100

Ironclad dreadnought-145
heavy flamer

Ironclad Dreadnought-145
Heavy flamer

+++Librarian Conclave-220
3 librarians
1 ML 2 librarian

1250

Might go into a 40k tournament with this list at my FLGS. Listed under "bad idea but fucking awesome"

>>49285494
Those BRRRRTS are so cute. :3

>>49285502
Loyalists can't use traitor stuff no matter what. I'm doing a similiar army concept but doing it Chaos Tzeench. It'll be fun.

>>49285422
>you have no idea how much fun it is to sperg out like this.
But we do know how much it shits up the thread.
Acting like a frogposter is never a good thing. Please stop.

As a Nurgle CSM/Daemon player do I really have any chance against my friend's "Super Friends"List?
I could grab a second Heldrake as fliers seem to be his most glaring weakness and does well against his Ravenwing star.
He brings the Start Collecting Space Wolves formation (10 Man Grey Hunter unit in a Drop Pod and five TWC with a TWClord, a Ravenwing Strikeforce with two HQs the command squad and a Darkshrouds with a Grav biker squad and finally three White Scar Librarians in a conclave.

My Daemon Prince in the Allied CAD holds its own and draws a fair amount of attention. it seems winning the mission may be my best bet and playing the long game would appease the God of Decay but both of our last two games have been really brutal and mostly wiped me completely out.
Still toying with a second daemon Prince but in the CSM list.
He used to just play Space Wolves with more troops, HQs and Dreads but since the shop has a tournament coming up he has been playing this new list.

>>49285541
> Loyalists would never use traitor stuff
So long as our chaplain verifies that shit isn't daemonically possessed, bolter mags are just bolter mags.

I will say that I would never use a traitor's BOLTER, but I sure as shit would steal the bolts from his mag to keep for myself. My precious scope is very important to me anyway, and I like the feel of my own heavily customized bolter. We're a very practical chapter anyway. I would take my chances if I was operating in the field for over a decade without resupply.

>>49285502
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>taken from the Iron Warriors you've been fighting
EXCOMMUNICATE TRAITORIS

>He chops open your MkVIII gorget and hands you a corvus helmet,
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THE SYSTEMS IN THE MKVIII ARMOR IS NOT BACKWARDS-COMPATIBLE

>then bolts an iron shoulderpad onto your armour.
Just fluff it as bonding studs/extra shoulderpad armor instead of actual MKIII and it's all cool man.

>You took the cultist's grenades
DOUBLE EXCOMMUNICATE TRAITORIS

>>49285558
>As a CSM player, can I hold my own against top-tier Imperial builds?
No. 40k is hilariously imbalanced.

>>49285594
Doesn't matter what a chaplain says, traitor equipment is completely off limits without question.

>>49285598
You're the reason why everyone thinks 40k players are scum. kys

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>>49285239
I did the exact same thing but with a leman russ.

>>49285558
It will be really hard for you. I'd suggest getting a couple renegade knights and stomping him to death.

>>49285598
Good luck sending inquisitors to my ass when I'm in the ghoul stars hunting down renegades and XENOS UNKNOWN. I have yet to meet an inquisitor that would be willing to travel 50,000 lightyears through the warp just to search a toxic jungle infested hell-hole for some random operator that's probably been crawling through the mud for a year just to get into the PERFECT sniping position on an enemy base. All because he took a pair of frag grenades from a traitor sentry, which he then used to kill six more traitors.

>>49285594
>So long as our chaplain verifies that shit isn't daemonically possessed, bolter mags are just bolter mags.

Nah mate, ALL traitor gear is always off-limits 100% of the time. If a Chaplain of all things is saying it's cool, then he's already been Corrupted and the =][= and/or GK will be showing up soon to purge your chapter.

It's like the Relictors all over again, Excommunicate Traitoris after deciding to use Daemon Weapons and convincing everyone it's all cool.

>>49285678
Nah mate, the =][= would purge the whole chapter to be sure. Not just a single dude. Chaos/Traitor gear is a big no-no even for the chapters that think rules are for losers.

Also, that sounds like something the =][= actually would do.

>>49285642
>>49285650
No one really uses Lord of Wars where I play besides guys like Dante and Imotekh.

In general could a second Demon Prince be a nice addition or are they only really worth taking from the Daemon Codex.

I tried running Daemons as my main with allied CSM before but I prefer my Space Marines more.

How are Great Unclean Ones? I'd rather that or a second Prince than another Heldrake.

>>49285723
Well just look at the space wolves! They're also starch loyalists that do not give a fuck about rules, and probably use the codex astartes as toilet paper for all we know. The inquisition doesn't give a fuck about them.

And yes, rules are inconveniences that should be abandoned the moment they impede the mission.

>>49285780
>The inquisition doesn't give a fuck about them.
>He doesn't know that they and the Grey Knights have tried multiple times to kill all of them
Plus the Space Wolves don't use Daemon/Chaos/Traitor gear either. Which makes them still better than what you said earlier.

>>49285780
The Space wolves are constantly watched because they don't follow the codex. Shit will hit the fan when the Black crusade Wulfen are revealed to the inqusition though.

It's likely that the Imperium will self destruct sooner rather than later at this point

>>49285813
Wulfen did before they froze time

>>49285813
We don't use chainaxes or bolters, or really anything that could be daemonically posessed for that matter. I still don't see what's the problem with taking someone's ammo, or harvesting scrap from their shit so you can effect repairs in the field.

>>49285813
Also forgot to add that since they're a First Founding chapter they do get more than a bit of leeway when it comes to stuff.

>Wulfen did before they froze time
Did they? Huh.

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Impromptu 1250 local tourney, bringing CSM to see how it goes, what think /tg/?

+++ New Roster (1250pts) +++

++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Chaos CSM Black Crusade Detachment) (560pts) ++

The Lost and the Damned (411pts)
··Rules: A Tide of Traitors, Prophet of the Gods
··Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 15x Cultists]
··Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 15x Cultists]
··Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 15x Cultists]
··Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 15x Cultists]
··Dark Apostle [Bolt Pistol, Gift of mutation, Power Maul, Veterans of the Long War]
····Rules: Champion of Chaos, Demagogue, Independent Character, Veterans of the Long War, Zealot

+ Auxiliary (149pts) +
Veterans of the Legions (149pts)
··Noise Marines [4x Noise Marines, Replace Boltgun w/ Blastmaster, 3x Replace Boltgun w/ Sonic Blaster]
···Rules: Fearless, Mark of Slaanesh
·Noise Champion [Bolt Pistol, Power Sword]

++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Formation Detachment) (315pts) ++

Cyclopia Cabal (315pts)
··Rules: Black Legion, Shroud of Deceit
··Sorcerer [Additional Mastery Level, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]
··Sorcerer [Additional Mastery Level, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]
··Sorcerer [Additional Mastery Level, Power Armour, Spell familiar, Veterans of the Long War]
·Rules: Champion of Chaos, Independent Character, Psyker, Veterans of the Long War

++ Chaos Renegade Knights (375pts) ++
Renegade Knight (375pts) [Avenger Gatling Cannon and Heavy Flamer, Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chainsword]

>>49285763
Daemon Princes are good. I'd run another Daemons one though. The ID sword will be very useful against multi-wound death stars.

GUO are kinda finnicky. They really, really, really want to get Iron Arm and Warp Speed, and they're so slow that Deep Strike is the only option. If you're going to deep strike, however, you're going to want at least two units in reserves with him with Musicians to get him in as early as possible, and you're also going to want some sort of advance guiding unit to ensure that he doesn't mishap.

Could you post the rest of your list and available models? I'm off to work, but I'll be able to give a more comprehensive list analysis/unit recommendations in a few hours.

>>49285848
Noise Marines without a Rhino are dead meat.

I'd rather have more, smaller squads of cultists due to the respawn rule.

>>49285558
Nurgle daemon princes with wings and the instant death sword gift. Wack hard, the unit will die.

>>49285836
>harvesting scrap
>taking ammo
Mate, that's literally the first step to finding out on if it's Heresy.

The answer is yes. Both of those especially, as the ammo would have already become corrupted to be used in a Daemonized Bolter, and the scraps and armor would definitely have been corrupted, and simply filing off the chaos bits to make them look appropriate doesn't mean they're not corrupted.

If anything, that guarantees a visit from the =][=/Red Hunters/Grey Knights/Exorcists.

>>49285907
Wouldn't that mean you couldn't retrieve geneseed from marines shot by chaos forces?

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>>49285907
This is fascinating. I'll have to start doubling the ammo I bring in that case.

Maybe if I strap MOLE packs to my MOLE packs, I can try to bring a thousand bolts with me, or get somewhere around that mark.

>>49285931
No, that's perfectly fine. It's using chaos stuff because they've already been corrupted from time in the warp/from embracing chaos.

>>49285893
They're just my tax for the detachment

>>49285938
what the fuck is that stupid looking mess supposed to be?

>>49286120
They're my scouts, wearing helmets from a third party manufacturer, and using scopes/grenade launchers/laser designators from the same group, as in Anvil Industries.

Also using home-made camo cloaks made from aluminium foil.

>>49286120
kek

>>49286148
They look terrible. The foil looks awful, they're bland as fuck and the paint job on the glass looks like you slapped some blue paint on it and called it quits.

Seems like you're trying to turn it into Halo and failing badly.

>>49286208
#absolutesavage

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>>49286208
Okay.

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>>49285938
Y'know, Raptors anon, you're not such a bad guy. I still hate that you don't know your armor fluff because innapropriately mixed armor triggers my autism, and you not knowing that Traitor gear is always off-limits even if Chapter Master said ot's cool is kinda weird.

But I like that you like Operator Marines. I also like that you've got like what, 7/10 Companies? That's crazy.

But you know what? We can be Operator buddies, man. My Emperor's Warbringers and your Raptors? We'll be unstoppable camouflaged dudes in power armor. With my dudes having +1BS all the time and Tank Huntin' Devastators, and your dudes having Rending if they stand still? Cool.

>>49286120
>>49286208
They don't look too bad. But I'll agree and say they're meh.

>>49286208
Anon, first rule of criticizing other paint jobs is to post your own.

>>49285938
Interesting. Ignore these fucks.>>49286120
>>49286189
>>49286208
Carry on, looks good. I can see what you're going for.

>>49285494
wow you got the rust in all the right places. That thing is beautiful.

>>49285494
'Tis the Macharius Megadakka! And it's a beautiful thing indeed!

I love it anon. Why no Heavy Stubber sponsons though?

>>49286259
Ayy, you're cool too then. Maybe I am messing with people somewhat by suggesting that I take armour from traitors. Really its just a stock of random bits and pieces taken from everywhere.

I'm trying to mix up my companies, get a good stock of a good bit of everything. I've abandoned the idea entirely of just getting 10 battle companies, and buying whatever the fuck I want and following whatever whims or fancies I think could be useful.

I guess the chapter really works well with how I play. I never use the same list twice, and I never write my lists down ever, I just make the list ON THE SPOT whenever I get to the table, with whatever I think will be good. Lately I've been trying shennanigans where the Chapter Master Lias gives outflank to a shitload of combat squads, and just have scouts supporting on high places to strategically remove things. The Raven Guard decurion is cool, and is amazingly fun to play, so sometimes I have scout squads escort other things onto the board with Wayfinders.

>>49286208 >>49285938

argh i thought halo aswell. I can see what anon was going for, but it just doesnt fold together nicely. Keep trying man! I 100% appreciate trying something interesting and colorful then something thats just grey.

>>49286399
>I never write my list down

Are you fucking retarded? This is outright cheating unless you're using lists without any upgrades. You can claim whatever you want without any way to prove or disprove it.

>>49286399
>I never use the same list twice, and I never write my lists down ever,
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>49286399
Also, Valentine is finally getting his own Command Squad for the first company. Soon he will be followed around by a Leviathan, a Pair of Contemptors, and a Chaplain Dreadnought.

This to go alongside his own personal honour guard, techmarine enquery.

So now my first company consists of the following:
> A deredeo as a captain
> Chaplain dreadnought
> Mini-honour guard(4 guys), plus a techmarine
> 2 Contemptors
> Leviathan
> 40 Scouts
> 10 Sternguard Veterans
> 5 Cataphractiis,
> 5 Hammernators.
> 2 tactical squads, both led by some named veteran sergeants

>>49286460
Except I pull out my phone and will gladly add up absolutely everything, and point out exactly what everything has before the game starts. I then keep everything absolutely wizzywig, so there's nothing to question.

>>49286399
Forget Horus and Abbadon. You're the real fucking Arch-heretic, anon.

>>49286399
Im assuming you have a good amount of trust with the people you play with because that sounds like an easy way to cheat.

>>49286118

isn't one aux a single spawn?

>>49286399
>I never write my list down
While I wouldn't say it's outright cheating. That's really bad form, anon.

I play with a super casual group and I always make sure to have my upgrades listed just in case it comes up. God knows it's easy to sneak in upgrades and your response being "oh uh, nah guys it's cool just trust me"

>>49286460
Unfortunately, it's really really common to run into local groups in which writing down all of your list isn't considered mandatory.

It can work fine, sure, but given that there's virtually no cost to creating a physical list, everyone really should provide a list before the game starts.

Besides, it helps you remember what's in your actual list.

>>49286505
takes like 2 minutes to battlescribe the list up anon. no excuses!

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>>49285167
>>49285130
>>49285395
>>49285422
>>49285502
>>49285598
>mfw my army's theme is vikings using whatever equipment they can get their hands on
>mfw my army's been making their own armour deviating from common patterns for ages
>mfw my army mixing up armour marks is actually fluff supported

>>49286505
It's not about adding points up it's about being able to hot swap wargear

>Oh shit my marines on the right are being shot at by plasma guns, I guess they have the mark of Tzeench now
>Oh no my marines on the left are being shot at by plasma guns, I guess they have the mark of Tzeench now

Both of these are 100% valid statements at the same time while paying for a single unit to have the mark because there is no way for an opponent to validate which unit has the mark so both have it until other wise stated.

It's Schrodinger's cat in list form. Every unit both has and doesn't have every option a unit of the same type and size has.

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>>49286399
>I never write my lists down ever

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>>49286561
>>49286537
But what if i dont write down my list so i can cheat and sneak in upgrades if theyre relevant?

>>49286537
>>49286534
Again, I maintain that all my armies remain 100% wizzywig. Also my gaming group is all close friends that play casual games for fun. We play shit like herohammer and heralds of ruin, while avoiding tournaments like the plague.

>>49286537
I memorize my lists? I'm pretty good at that.

>>49286600
Me and my friends both go over each other's armies in their entirety before games start. We clearly state what everything has, and make sure it's all wizzywig so no questions need to be asked mid-game. If a veteran sergeant is in a tactical squad and is carrying a power sword with a melta bomb, it's because there's a dude in there with a white stripe on his helmet, carrying a power sword, and having a melta bomb strapped to his armour.

>>49286505
I shouldnt have to pause the game so my opponent can add up his army to ease my suspicions. I come prepared with an army list out of respect to my opponent, I already know my army, ive used it a fuck ton of times already.

If you were to make new psychic powers for CSM that WEREN'T the ones they got in TH, what would they be?

>>49286646
Yeah if you're doing it with friends it's not an issue, of course. I bring physical lists to casual games because I need to know what I spent my points on, but it's not like I ask to see my bff's list before we start to make sure he's not cheating.

>>49286646
I've played enough games to know that's bullshit. No one remembers their opponents army or even their own army that perfectly.

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>>49286650
It also helps that when I pull out my models to assemble my army, I have my phone and calculator out. I put models on the table, and add their points cost to the calculator total, in full view of my opponent. I generate warlord traits only when I know my opponent is paying full attention so he knows what's going on, and I even generate psychic cards by physically holding out the cards themselves, and let my opponent pick two from the hand(which neither of us can see).

A casual gaming group should be about trust. The lot of you seem to not be able to trust your fellow gamers.

>>49285484
Thats a hard match up, in my meta tau and necrons dominate every other army. I've seen space wolves fair very well against my Tau, especially drop pod armies that can nullify my gunlines (plus if you make it to assault range against them Tau WILL die; even the riptide can easily be taken out by elite infantry). I've only played eldar once, and both myself and the necron player steamrolled him, but he was also an idiot that had bad placement/use of his troops.

>>49286676
Expand the unique god disciplines to full 6 powers + primaris, redo most of them to be actually good (nurgle thing doesn't give shrouded, tzeentches firestorm has good AP, boon of mutation changed to bolt of change...)

>>49286676
>Traitoris- powers to manipulate enemy units, not as outrageous as the Cyclopian Cabal, but definitely harkoning to it
>Sacrificious- deal wounds to allied units to gain buffs/ deal debuffs. Basically barter up your allies and even your own psykers wounds for potentially greater rewards.

>>49286598
NO IT ISN'T!

>>49286789
http://www.westernvalleymodels.co.uk/ekmps/shops/western10/images/games-workshop-warhammer-40000-40k-space-wolves-pack-grey-hunters-blood-claw-53-06-[2]-946-p.jpg
LOOK AT THEM. LOOK AT THEIR LEGS. ARE THEY NOT MIXING MK 6 AND MK 7?

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I was reading through some of the old White Dwarf pdfs, and I saw this (from WD #303, March 2005) and it looked cool so I thought that I'd share.

I'd like it if WD published stuff like this these days.

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>>49286810

>>49286676
Warpism - powers dedicated to warp storms, and general over all battlefield effects. Utilizing lots of blast templates as well.

Ritualism - sacrificial powers that require both psychic dice and sacrificing some units for some very power summons and spells.

Domination - powers revolving around converting/controlling enemy units and misdirecting them

Doomology - inflicts single target damage, various fear/status effects, and removal from play

>>49286806
MKVI and MKVII are compatible though.

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>>49286823

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>>49286718
That's how it usually goes down when a bunch of boyz
charge my guardsmen.

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>>49286845

aight i need ideas. I havent played 40k since 3E and recently decided to get back into the hobby. I was space marines before, but i decided to go fresh with something more interesting like Tyranids. I picked up the start collecting bundle but not sure where to break out from there. I like the idea of a few gaunts and venomthropes for shroud and making a living wall that cushions my important units until they can engage ( because everything looks so damn shooty these days ). However i dunno if thats viable. Im not looking for the best list possible, i just want to play space bugs and not get completely crushed by my opponent.

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>>49286868

>>49286881
If you're playing tyranids you need flyrants.

>>49286839
http://pro.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Banner_SpaceWolvesUpgrades.jpg
Teaser for wolves heresy upgrades.
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-PL/Space-Wolves-Task-Force
Same upgrades mixed with MK 4.
Pups make their own armour and have been since the Crusade.

>>49286901
about 4 or 5 of them

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>>49286894
And that's all.

I kind of like the beastmen ones. There's something interesting about mutants fighting for the Imperium (besides Sanguinius)

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>>49284834

>>49286901
yeah i heard those were incredibly good. Is getting a second one pretty critical? Also are hive guard any good? They look incredible and would love to paint / field some but ive heard some not so great things about them

>>49286905
Nah, FW put all the upgrade sets on MkIV because they sold them as a bundle with BaC.

Besides, you can just claim that they're up-armored MkIV, seeing as the Power Weapon pack for MkIV comes with a MkII like torso, with some notable differences.

>>49286270
No. This is the worst logic.

You can't call food bad unless you're a talented chef?
You can't judge a book unless you're a professional writer?
You can't criticize a movie unless you're a filmmaker as well?

>>49286946
I'd say a second one is pretty critical.

>>49286960
If this were a chef's forum where everyone was a hobbyist chef, or a writer's forum where everyone was a hobbyist writer, then it would actually be reasonable to inquire as to what people can do when they're dumping on others.

>>49286868
>codex: alien hunters (when it is written)
Well, it took them long enough, but I guess that means no afriels can be fielded with deathwatch?
Anyways, thanks for the dump anon.

>>49286954
MY PUPS WEAR SUPERIOR HOME MADE RUNE ETCHED ARMOUR AND YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS THAT RUSS AND THE ALLFATHER HAVEN'T BLESSED YOURS AS MUCH AS MINE.

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>>49286942
HNNNNNNNGH

>>49286905
Bruh, SW aren't the only ones who's armor is mixed on those upgrade sets. Forgeworld just used the BaC marines on all of them, which annoys me because MkII and MkIII is not compatible with MkIV.

>>49286960
I think it's less that you're criticizing his paint job and more that you're just a tremendous asshole

Besides, it's hard to offer any opinion his paint job when he took such an awful photo.

>>49286987
it would if this wasn't an anonymous forum. But lo and behold, this is what anonymous forums allow us to do. State our opinions. You think GW's artwork sucks? Say it. You think their rules suck? Say it. You don't need to be a artist or rules creator to criticize.

>>49287019
BUT-
BUT-
MUH VIKING N RAMSHACKLE ARMOUR

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>>49286960
sounds good to me tbqh, too many of these "critic" folks waltzing around crying about everything like anybody cares.

Oh god I am criticizing the critics.

I have been infected.

>>49287005
that's a good catch!

I do miss the more complex allies table from the past, though. Like when Black Templars couldn't ally with anyone using psykers.

>GW can't make sisters and prices have to be so high because plastic moulds are expensive!
>so expensive that GW can keep making space marine kits that are literally only sold in one or two stores across the entire planet!

How can anybody defend this?

>>49285855
On my mobile so can't post my list however my collection is as follows:

>2 Nurgle Start Collecting boxes (Herald, Nurglings, Plague Bearers and Plague Drones)
>Daemon Prince
>Five Obilteratora
>10 Bikers
>Chaos Lord and Chaos Sorcerer on Bikes
>A Soul Grinder
>A Heldrake
>10 Plague Marines
>Chaos Rhino
>20 Cultists

We mostly play around 2000pts and I use mostly all my CSM and most Daemons besides the troops.

>>49286935
A more modern way of playing Beastmen would be to run Imperial Cults and Militia. Taking a 50 point Force Commander HQ, followed by the 35 point provenance "Abhuman Helots". It makes you desperate allies with all loyalists(armies of the imperium when converted to 40k allies chart), and gives +1 toughness, and -1 initiative to all infantry models in your commander's detachment.

There, you have a whole army of abhumans. For an 85 point tax. Tax is higher, but for obvious reasons it's a better ratio when you can then put 300 models on the table that all benefit from said tax equally.

>>49287027
Yea, the photo I took was pretty fucking aweful, and does the models no justice. I took it at the geedubs where I painted the scouts, because I just wanted to show it to my friends initially.

>>49287027
>>49287057
>>49286960
To be fair you all have a good point. Honestly I don't care at all that someone doesn't like my models, because I like them. I painted them myself, and I spent months learning and practicing the techniques used, so I could properly utilize my 300$ worth of shitty paint.

>>49287010
>>49287056
Nah.

>>49287080
Can't, but you also can't ignore they've been attempting to listen to us more. They're not perfect by any means, but we're definitely wayyyy better off than we were few years ago.

>>49287087
>armies of the imperium when converted to 40k allies chart
Mate, you know that the 30k rules explicitly state that they may not take any allies nor be allies with armies from 40k?

>>49287091
BUT MY ARTIFICER ARMOUR COMES WITH A 6++

>>49286598
>yfw your system is on fire and the mutant will be burned.

>>49287014
I know its like a prefect iteration of a guard tank. It looks like a vanquisher turret with malcador infermus sides and dracosan armored transport front. it is so sexy but so expensive.

>>49287120
This is when playing 30k armies in 30k campaigns. There's seperate rules for playing your 30k armies in 30k, versus in 40k.. Honestly who doesn't mind playing against 30k armies? They're objectively worse than 40k armies in every possible way, because of the multitudes of taxes everything has.

>>49286935
Hm.

These gave me an idea for any army. R&H abhumans/mutants that go futher than this WD suggested (e.g. he said no cloven hooves or horns or else the Imperium wouldn't take them, so they get those conversions).

They'd be led by warbands of Iron Warriors and Night Lords who follow Curze's whole "vengeful vigilante" deal and go around attacking Imperial worlds they deem corrupt or unjust.

And of course they go completely over the top with numerous human rights violations. Or do they?

>>49287127
>mfw it was a good 4 legged run while it lasted

>>49287132
That and the whole green brown and grey death korps aesthetic its just so good

>>49287080
>GW can't make sisters
they CAN make sisters

But there's really no reason why they SHOULD, since unlike blue/green/red/black/silver/evil space marines people don't fucking buy them. They've never fucking bought them.

It's almost like a company concerned with earning loads of dosh is justifiably wary of investing in something that doesn't see much of a return.

>>49287125
That's because those runes are just fancy duct-tape laced with dog treats.

>>49284755
Missing the vocal minority Chaos Players that whine endlessly about Drop Pods and the lustfull need to use their beloved (vanilla ) Chaos Space Marine to footslog all across the table and shoot the enemy with bolters.

Does anyone know some information on the new blood angels book or the box sets?

>>49285494
That pet fur on the back tho...

>>49285005
Renegades.

Orks.

You're welcome.

>>49285042
but that'd make them 30k marines, not 40k marines - logically they would then use the 30k rules

>>49287165
that is true. I would love to have like three of these and a fourth one with a hull mounted demolisher cannon like a WW2 french tank

>>49285005
Imperial Cults and Militia. Your basic infantry squad is 2 points per model, and can be up to 50 models. They are equipped with shitty flintlock guns. You can have 800 fucking guys in an 1850 point game. That's literally so many dudes that they won't fit on a standard table, and will possibly invade other tables just so you can store all of your reserves.

>>49287176
The only ranting about CSM access to drop pods has been from the ones who claim CSM players rant about wanting drop pods.

>>49287027
Not the same guy.

>>49287168
>It's almost like a company concerned with earning loads of dosh is justifiably wary of investing in something that doesn't see much of a return.
>so expensive that GW can keep making space marine kits that are literally only sold in one or two stores across the entire planet!

>>49285264
that is what happened, and then the SoH, EC, WE etc stuffed everyone elses stuff in their own armories, repainted the armors and were fat and happy.

>>49287248
shit m8, it's almost like space marines actually sell

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>>49287239
Oh yeah

>>49287270
Are you seriously this retarded?

>>49287289
maybe

>>49287289
because I disregard your ridiculous hyperbole as the nonsense that it is?

>>49287275
Have you read the rules for the forgeworld tanks? there are slight but noticeable upgrades. I found out today after buying a forgeworld vanquisher turret at a model market day at my FLGS. The turrets with co-axle guns can use them to give the main gun twinlinked if the co-axle hits the target first.

105 ork boyz cast, 195 to go

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I'm trying to see if I can justify using the Chaos Warband formation for a Nurgle army. The main hurdle for me is the need to field at least 2 units of vanilla Chaos Space Marines. I'm trying to compare Nurgle-marked CSMs with Plague Marines by building the two units as identically as I can.

[120] Plague Marines
[120] +5 models
[030] 2 plasma guns
[025] power fist
[010] combi-plasma
[305] TOTAL

Raw advantages: Fearless, Feel no Pain, Poisoned (4+) melee, defensive grenades

[075] Chaos Space Marines
[065] +5 models
[018] 9 close combat weapons
[030] 2 plasma guns
[025] power fist
[010] combi-plasma
[030] Mark of Nurgle
[010] Veterans of the Long War
[263] TOTAL

Raw advantages: +1 initiative, 42 points saved

I really want to try out a Black Crusade list, but I've been playing with a focus on Nurgle since 2nd edition, so that's what my collection is. Otherwise I may just go with Typhus and a Lost and the Damned formation to get endless hordes of zombies.

Thoughts?

>>49287488
A guy at my flgs made a 2000 point army list that was basically only guardsmen. I think he totaled at like, 300 guys and when he went to battletest it his opponent flooded the board with tanks so that he couldn't beat him.
But just imagine a 300 model army, how hilarious that's gonna be to fight with and how awful it will be to paint.
Anon you have made a terrible mistake

>>49287389
You mean your ignorance of the various exclusive space marine kits in the last few years.

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>>49287481
Holy shit Forge World rules.

>>49287549
Even 300 Guardsmen can hack apart AV10 and 11, anon.

>>49286536
I sadly don't own any Spawn models

>>49287488
How's the quality so far?

>>49287604
>sculpt a bunch of greenstuff tentacles
>put them on a base

there u go

>>49287549
yeah datz cuz he took 300 'umiez

Anyone know how to unbend the tip of your brush bristles? I got this Windsor Newton one and have only used it on my squad of Pathfinders and it's already bending.

>>49285836

Logan Grimner has a warp tainted axe actually. Wolves are hilariously heretical.

>>49287646
synthetic? those tend to bend a lot more than the series 7

don't jab it at things

Anyone know when the wulfen pt.2 book comes out and if Grey Knights are getting anything?

>>49287604
Try this: Get a ping-pong ball and and bin of assorted bits of miniatures. Coat the ball in glue and drop it into the bits. Shake that shit around. When it dries, remove the ball. Glue your new spawn to a base.

>>49287616
pretty ok, im having a problem with bubbles in the toes and heels, but i can cover that with green stuff and basing material

>>49287186
Box sets are here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-40-000?N=102352+4294965067&Nu=product.repositoryId&searchTerm=&sorting=rec&categoryId=cat440130a-flat

I don't know what the rules will be but I've read some of it will be an update to the current rulebook. Rumors are we may be getting grav weapons and centurions but "rules update" could mean as little as the scout and dreadnought FAQ changes being printed in the book.

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I'm trying to put together a Khorne Daemonkin army and I'm confused about whether or not I can use the gorethunder battery with the Khorne Daemonkin faction.

the formation (Top) lists that it requires a herald in a chariot and three skull cannon. Since KDK can field these units, and there is nothing in the Restrictions section that says that these units need to have the Chaos Daemons faction, can I field this formation with their KDK versions so they get Blood for the Blood God?

For contrast I listed another formation from the Blood Oath supplement (Bottom) where it is specific that the units need to have the KDK faction in order to qualify for use in the formation.

>>49287942
(before that guy comes saying contrary)

Accepted opinion is that formations have factions (backed up by the numerous GW FAQs on the matter)
So the Gorthunder Battery is printed in the Chaos Daemons (campaign) book, with a Chaos Daemons faction symbol, meaning its a Chaos Daemons only formation.

>>49287860
The changes implied in the description of Angel's Blade are for Termie Captain, Chaplain (phrased as "Death Company Chaplain"), Assault Squads, and Dev Squads.

I wouldn't be surprised if Devastators got Grav-Cannons (personally I'd really like it if they got access to Heavy Flamers or the new DW Frag Cannons because they'd fit with the BA ethos more -- don't really care about bringing Grav weapons).

Centurions are possible but eh I dunno. Kind of doubt it. Also don't care about them.

>>49287860
like Tau, Daemons, and Chaos before, your getting your original codex + the campaign book addons with changes to bring you up-to-date with other similar unit entries/kits (so evicerators on assault marines, grav cannons on devs)

>>49287812
Are you casting whole boyz or just sprues?

>>49287991
>evicerators on assault marines
Oh yeah that would make sense.

Kind of makes me regret chopping up the eviscerator for other stuff now. Oh well. Can always get more. And I like my assault sarge's double inferno pistols anyways.

>>49288003
bodies, arms and heads

I dont thing recasting whole sprues is possible with a garage setup

>>49287970
Okay, thanks. This is really annoying since the only way to bring skull cannon for KDK in the Blood Host detachment is through Charnal Cohort, which has five other mandatory units in it.

>>49285125
shiny and ch..i mean green

>>49287535

Without t5 and fnp your csm champ will probably die before he gets to swing his fist. Also both the listed plague and csm squads you listed are too expensive for what they do. I'd stick to a max of 7 plague marines in their squad and pick just one upgrade for the csm. Not sure that your plague marines get obsec in a black crusade detachment either so you might be better off in a cad. I'd also drop the combi weapons on both champs, you don't really need them because you already have two plasma guns in both squads.

>>49285125
>no red
It's like you want to be slower

>>49287942
Any Chaos Daemons detachment can be made into a Khorne Daemonkin detachment.

>>49287970
Supplemental factions are in all other ways still the base faction.

Supplemental faction is a buffed variant of the original faction, not a unique separate faction.

>>49288224
can you explain more or tell me where I can verify this?

>>49288167
>Also both the listed plague and csm squads you listed are too expensive for what they do

Welcome to the CSM Codex :^)

>>49287186
Grav cannon devestators
Return of deep strike no scatter and immediate assualt

>>49288258
>Return of deep strike no scatter and immediate assualt
But judging from Traitor's Hate, that's probably going to be via formation, and might involve making a disordered charge

>>49287662
Gauntlets of ultramar taken from a chaos champion

anyone recall the name of the warhammer 40k story with a marine from like the 30th millenia that is flung into 40k..i think he was from a traitor legion but he was still loyal and he ends up running a planet or something.

>>49288287
The only non-heretical chapters are BA, White Scars, and Fists.

Those are also the legions that fought at Terra. Coincidence? I fucking doubt it.

>>49288278
No it's vampire version of the c:sm formation

>>49288277
>never buy anything new ever again
>sweatingtomkirby.jpg

>>49288249
In the rules where it tells you how you can field KHorne Daemonkin detachment at all. Right where it also tells you how what the special rules for the Khorne Daemonkin detachments are.

You aren't fielding a new army, but an existing army with new rules.

>>49288343
Unless I'm thinking of Crimson Slaughters. All Skub Marines look the same to me.

>>49288251

Yep such is the morbid reality. I meant to say his squad lists are more than just the standard run of the mill csm overpricing; they are extremely overpriced

>>49288343
I keep rereading pages 68 and 69 of my codex to see what you're talking about, but the only line that stands out to me is "This section will enable you to forge your collection of Chaos Space Marines and Chaos Daemons miniatures into a Khorne Daemonkin army ready to fight battles in your games of Warhammer 40,000."

But page 70, when describing the faction symbol at the header to the datasheets says "...this symbol, which includes all the units described in this book, have the Khorne Daemonkin Faction."

Maybe I'm missing something very obvious, but it isn't clear to me at all.

What units would best compliment 180 boyz at 2000 points?

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Im enjoying making these storm troopers enough that I'm considering going whole hog with them... long ago I dreamed of having an air cavalry army and now there's totally a formation for it. If I went for it (airborne assault formation) would there be any good way of including vendettas (or even a vulture)? Cause the smaller squad size seems to lend itself to msu special weapon caddies.

...also what if any is the proper loadout for these planes? I know nothing of V-plane-based tactics.

I was thinking of using my fists as allies with a bastion to hold the field turn 1.

>>49288321
>The only non-heretical chapters are BA, White Scars, and Fists.
>Those are also the legions that fought at Terra. Coincidence? I fucking doubt it.

>Half of the white scars turned traitor siding themselves with Horus, conspired to turn the khan to the war master side, killined the last of those that survived the purge of Isstvan remained loyal to the Emperor from the traitor legions
>Loyal
This is a DA tier level of betrayal
>Bangles are one step removed from khornites
Truly the only loyal son of the Emperor was Dorn.

>>49288494
>Bangles are one step removed from khornites
Nope, because they are gifted with the Flaw, which keeps them humble, thus avoiding corruption by the ruinous powers.

Dorn achieved the same result by being a weirdo masochist.

>>49288510
>Bangles
>humble
Bitch those of the line of sangüinius were weren't humble in the slightest, they were the proudest assholes around and the successor chapters are no better, the flesh tearers are the worst of all, cold steel level of edginess

>>49288560
They are so humble that you can't even see it. It's a pretty amazing trick, actually. I'm not surprised that it's lost upon you.

>>49277496
Hey, I use Firefox too, but I don't have my head stuck so far up its ass that I wouldn't just download Chrome and use it solely for Readium anyway. I actually already had Chrome installed for web development anyway, it has its uses. Besides, once you get it and install Readium you never actually have to open Chrome again, Readium can be searched for and opened in your start menu.

>>49288479
moar boyz

>>49288618
Why would you respond to something from thirteen hours ago?

>>49288625
In case he's still around? C'mon, don't act like you don't monitor thread after thread over long periods.

>>49288640
>In case he's still around?
Why did you state this as a question? Are you not sure?

>>49288480
>gave the Taurox wheels
>didn't bother to move the guns pointing at the side hatches

One step forward, two back.

>>49288480
Where did you get the wheels from anon?

>>49288646
So you have no legit reply to that, you're just going to nitpick huh.

>>49288661
Shouldn't there be a question mark after "huh?"

>>49288671
No, because I'm making a statement.

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Alright, what's the deal with all the frogposting? Its not off topic (some of the time) or always really shitposting, it just seems like there's an inordinate amount of "REEEE"-ing going around.

Is this just Traitor's Hate buzz or what, I get some people think it's funny but it's not a thing here any more please god don't ruin the general more than it already is

>>49288684
Nah, I just did it earlier as a joke.

>>49288027
have you considered a combined arms detachment?

>>49288681
Then why did you add "huh"? That's an inquisitive exclamation.

>>49288242
But Khorne Daemonkin is its own faction?

>>49288693
It doesn't have to be, no.

>>49288690
Nah, I wasn't really referring to that. It pops up as a joke every now and again, it's pretty entertaining from time to time

I was just lurking through the archive and noticed a lot of angry, continuous frogposting across the last dozen or so threads, got me wondering. Usually people call it out or something

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>>49288575
Oh silly me, I guess you're right.

Do the events of Traitor's Hate happen before or after the events of Shield of Baal?

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How's this scheme look, lads? They're an Ultramarrines successor, playing with the Ossifiers as a chapter name.

>>49288803
Looks fine. Keep in mind that white can be tough to do if you're a beginner.

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>>49288803
Change the eyes to green, use a white color, and you've got 30k World Eaters scheme.

>>49288691
I have now

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>>49288649
Im mediocre with magnets, anon. Im sorry. I don't like jagdtiger tier design flaws either.

>>49288652
The brand is blood and skulls. Very clean conversion kit. They have an ebay store.
I wanna paint the wheels but I havent decided how to do my bases yet.

>>49288845
Shit. Too similar?

>>49288845
Fuck. Too similar?

>>49288862
>>49288889
>>49288845

Stupid glitch, make me look like an idiot. Didn't post the first until I posted the second.

>>49285199
Is that a Daemon Prince chest?

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New to the tabletop here. Is it viable to fulfill my dream of running infantry blob guard with Commissars and shit?

>>49289026
yes you just need hundreds of guardsman.

>>49289026
Its possible but easily countered. You'll need something to provide anti-tank power, and Heavy Weapon Squads arent always the best. This all, of course comes down to the people you'll play against, whether theyre pretty casual or competitive

>>49288901
Oddly enough, no.

First there's just the simple reason that a lot of marine color schemes are pretty similar. So it's not a big deal.

The second reason is that there's reason to believe that many loyal elements of the traitor legions joined up with the Ultramarines during the heresy, and then afterwards split off into their own chapters, usually claiming Ultramarines descent.

So if you wanted, it could be a deliberate similarity, and they could be descended from loyalist World Eaters.

Or just leave it ambiguous.

>>49289026
Consider getting a space marine librarian formation as ally and having the librarians join your blob. Then your entire blob gets And They Shall Know No Fear, and their psychic powers can buff the entire blob

So how broken can you make a cabal star now with the new CSM spells?
I'm sure we cant get close to sw runepriest barkbark broken, but what's possible?
can we hit 2++ rerollable with fnp?
Herald on steed with cursed earth and grimoire in a pack of tzeentch disc sorcs. T7 nurgle sorc bikers with rerollable 3++?

>>49289351
>Herald on steed with cursed earth and grimoire in a pack of tzeentch disc sorcs
Herald can't join the unit thanks to Daemonic Instability, and the Sorcerer don't benefit from Cursed Earth. Marking them for Tzeentch also eats a spell.

Nurgle Sorcerers can't really go beyond a 4++, and they're unlikely to get their majority toughness over 6.

>>49289530
>>49289351
Daemon kin dogs + cabals with the new spells means you can get 2++ 4+ FNP death stars but lets face it CSM had alli access for this shit anyway.

Best thing about the new formations is the amount of objective secured you can get. ITC format will make sorc supported objective secured MSU usable

>>49289555
>several hundred points in tax to get a couple ObSec Nurgle Biker squads
It's not viable. We've had access to ObSec MSU Rhino squads the whole time, and they suck.

>>49289624
Who said anything about obsec Nurgle bikes?

At least the contents of the rhinos are less shit but not as good as loyalist I sense a trend. My CSM will remain my secondary army I use when people bring shit like DE and Sisters

>>49289530
ah yea daemonic instability, true.
But iron arm, plus the +1 toughness spell, and the 3++ spell that hits a sorc and you can have majority T10 actually. But requires a lot of luck in the rolls. And no ablative wounds ofc.

>>49289555
oh our own bark bark perhaps, that's interesting.

obsec overpriced junk wont win any tourneys...

>>49289757

What made the shit less shit? i dont get it

>>49289773
The actual CSM are less likely to run away

>>49289761
Do you play in tournaments? And if you did why are you playing CSM?

>>49289773
People are pretending that gaining ObSec on a couple ancillary units and free VotLW are going to be a game-changer for CSM.

Traitor's Hate changes nothing in terms of the army's status. We're still better than Orks and still roughly equal with Dark Eldar.

So hey, fluff question. I see people talk about the 13th Black Crusade and shit around it every so often.

But I just found out yesterday that apparently a couple of dudes tried to one-up Abaddon and Stole the Fist's giant space fortress while it was in the Sol system and are trying to fucking drop it directly on the Big E.

Like, that's actually a thing. There's a group of people in a massive Space Fortress they stole from a first founding Chapter trying to Extermanatus Terra from low-earth orbit. I discovered this on accident trying to figure out how big the Phalanx is.

Dis anyone else know this was a thing? Incidentally, does anyone know the size of any damn ship in 40k? I swear to god, the size charts contradict themselves every other line.

>>49285080
that panzer 4 has seen some shit

Sorry if this has been brought up before, but someone on my book of face posted an article on why space marines are the worst thing in the 40k universe. The main reason being women can't be space marines.

Next thing you know there are 20 people circle jerking over other mini games that offer stronk independent wimminz that don't need no men.

1 is it true about the no women space marines, and is it really that big of a deal?

2 why is the /tg/ hobby filled with the worst kind of people who can't take something make believe and just accept it and leave it the fuck alone like they want all their lives and needs

>>49289832
you mean we can have fearless obsec units? we could always have that.
no i dont play in tourneys but it might have been fun if csm could compete in itc at least. its interesting to see in any case

>>49289988
space marines ARE the the worst thing in the 40k universe regardless of that and that's all i feel the need to say

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>>49289988

>Bringing shitty fb drama here

>>49289988
>1 is it true about the no women space marines
yes
>and is it really that big of a deal?
no, women have historically accomplished nothing of note in the fields of warfare, science, art, philosophy, or much of anything else for that matter. you should remind the retards on your facebook of this undeniable fact.

>>49289988
nice bait
but sm are asexual anyway so dont know why it would even matter.

>>49287168

Surely the fact that nobody buys sisters might have something to with the fact that their models are old, expensive, and ugly?

>>49290144
it would be a great time to reintroduce sisters into the hobby, there's a lot of basement dwelling women around these days, pretty sure they'd sell decently.

>>49285080
What scale Pz.IV kit did you use? 1/48?

>>49289988
pretty much all the old lore around space marines is really stupid

actually the new space marine lore is really stupid too

>>49288861
Not sure what magnets have to do with it, you don't have to magnetise everything...

>>49289988
>but someone on my book of face posted an article on why space marines are the worst thing in the 40k universe. The main reason being women can't be space marines.

you should remove that person from your facebook you faggot.

>your hobby is bad because it does not cater to me!

Fuck off feminazi shits

>1 is it true about the no women space marines, and is it really that big of a deal?
Yes

>2 why is the /tg/ hobby filled with the worst kind of people who can't take something make believe and just accept it and leave it the fuck alone like they want all their lives and needs

Why can't you speak English?

I wanna get some some scouts for my Blood Angels, maybe making a kill team, but the fact that it's two different kits for the same unit is giving me a headache.

Cool tacticool sniper scouts or CQC scouts? I really wish I could put camo cloaks on the close combat scouts; I want to paint "urban digital" camo on them.

>>49290514
>I wanna get some some scouts for my Blood Angels

Why?

>CQC scouts

Why?

>>49290529
Cheap troops option, fun modeling opportunity, potential kill team.

16 S5 I5 attacks, 4 at AP3.

>>49289026
Yes, a 50 man blob with a commissar will take whatever objective you throw them at. Throw in a primaris and they'll even take some shit sown.

>>49289988
>1 is it true about the no women space marines, and is it really that big of a deal?
This smells like bait, but yes and no respectively. Space Marines are all male because the process to become one pushes the human body beyond it's natural limits, to a level that only the peakest of peak men can withstand (because feminazi bullshit aside, there definitely are physiological differences between men and women resulting in men having a higher peak of strength, endurance etc.).

It doesn't matter however, because despite these two all-male factions (SM and CSM), you then have...

>an all-female faction
>7 completely mixed gender factions - one of which even has exclusive positions of power for females
>4 factions which have no gender at all
So it's a complete non-issue if they even looked beyond the Space Marines. They just want something to complain about.

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Excuse me but I'm a bit of a dummy and still didn't manage to find a download for watchers in death even though the next installment is already out, can anyone help out a bit?

>>49287535
Don't you get free VotLW if you take the warband?

>>49288167
You can include the Veterans list entry to the detachment to gain ObjSec with your cult marines. The problem is you can't use your cult marines in place of regular troops, the warband still demands 2 CSM squads as tax.

>>49290514
> I really wish I could put camo cloaks on the close combat scouts
Since when have camo cloaks been a sniper only upgrade for scouts?

>>49290610
>Exclusive position of power
Eldar? Cause even Farseers and Banshees can be dudes.

>>49290637
They aren't. The issue is that the camo cloaks are physically modeled to the sniper scouts, which are in a completely different kit, and are monopose modeled into holding rifles.

Don't tacticals get the same shit with 3+ instead of 4+ save for only then you can add a heavy flamer and 2 hand flamers for an extra 30 points?

>>49290653
Dark Eldar - Wyches and Succubi dude.

>>49290671
>>49290581

This might be a ridiculous question but i'm looking for part 4 in this series of writefaggotry

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/14084160/
It's about a guy from the DAoT who gets lost in a warp storm and ends up in 40k. I think the later parts might not have been archived but i thought i'd ask

>>49290671
With the same loadout, tacticals would have 4 fewer attacks for 15 points more.

>>49287125
Sellotaping dogs to your armour as ablative puppers does not give you an invulnerable save Russ.

>>49290445
Why are Drumpfs the worst of falling for bait?

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What do you guys think of my first Hormagaunt for Kill Team?

>>49290696
Why?

And that's on the assault

For the 15 pts and 4 attacks you get two str 3 ap6 flame templates and 1 s5 ap4 flame template that ignore cover.

>>49290724
and the 3up saves instead of 4up which means the unit has better odds of shooting and assaulting again.

>>49290674
Aren't Wyches MOSTLY females? Even some of the models are male.

>>49290748
From what I remember they were all female, but I haven't kept up with DE lore/models at all.

>>49284834
Is there any tutorial on how to make this convertion? I see lots of people doing it but i still dont know how

>>49290776
Going by the models, there are male wyches.

>>49290827
To be honest, I think that's a move from them to make the Wyches less cheesecake, and more gender mixed then.

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>>49290107
>women have historically accomplished nothing of note in the fields of warfare, science, art, philosophy, or much of anything else for that matter

>who is Marie curie
>who is Florence nightingale
>who is margret thatcher
>ect

awkward m8

>>49290936
Not him but 3 people versus what is probably in the hundreds of thousands. Even if you name a huge list of hundreds, it is but a fraction of what men have contributed.

That said, that doesn't make the women's contribution any less vital and laudable, though I'd struggle to put thatcher there since she's a politician and didn't achieve much but make a nation very grumpy.

>>49290936
>>who is Marie curie
>>who is Florence nightingale
>>who is margret thatcher

I don't know lad, maybe they should have done something worthwhile.

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>>49290954
Sure, i woulde never claim that men havent contributed so much more, but that was not what was claimed but that chuckle head.

>>49290972
Dont try bantz m8, when you clearly are just stupid

>>49290936
Ordering the military to go and recapture the Falkkands and being partially responsible for Mr Whippy are not giant achievements in the fields of warfare or science.

Hi /tg/, I've got a Tau army but want to include a psyker, any suggestions? Just playing at home with a friend so doesn't need to be too strict on lore and allies.

>>49290999
Could just go unbound and take a psyker of your choice.

>>49290999
Taudar is everyone's favourite.

>>49290999
Furioso librarian

>>49290992
Its true, she was mealy a great politician with an iron willpower whos main achievements werent being a human with a vagina.aka, how to do being a female politician right, which is more than can be said for the modern feminist

also
>not seeing mr whipping for the fucking genius it is
>we will take icream, and replace 90% with air and sugar
>people love it more than proper ice cream

>>49290999
The Tau get on real well with the grey knights. probably.

or chaos

>>49290999
Look for any formation that lets you take either a single psyker or close to it, like a Cyclopia Cabal or Librarius Conclave.

Do up a Kroot Shaman model with two retainers or something. There's your counts-as.

Any documented cases of Alpha-Plus psykers not getting executed by the Inquisition and used to great effect?

>>49290999

Small deathwatch squad with a librarian in it

Take advantage of the fact that deathwatch can be equiped with whatever, it'll compliment your tau nicely

>>49290936
>3 people
so thats what, .000000000000000001% of anything?

just confirmed what i said, theyve done nothing of note.

>>49290863
Lol when the lightweight loses your tears will be delicious

>>49291059
Most inquisitors and grey knights you dumb bastard

>>49291162
There's no way in hell most Inquisitors and Grey Knights are Alpha-Plus level trained to the extent they don't go batshit or get possessed. Tigurius is like 2 levels BELOW Alpha-Plus.

>>49291152
Trump sleeps like an hour a day and has been campaigning for a year and a half nonstop.

Hillary gets raped by blunder after scandal after more leaked emails after blunder after drinking her own vomit all while the media vehemetly defend her as they shit on Trump and she decides to slumber for a week to make the bad things go away.

We are at about 300 days without a press conference.

>calling trump a lightweight

When Crooked Hillary gets raped on stage and has another stroke and dies I will cry tears of joy.

>>49291135
>so thats what, .000000000000000001% of anything?

Naw, scientists estimate only about a hundred billion people have ever lived.

So your figure is off by a factor of a million.

>>49291183
>Naw, men estimate only about a hundred billion people have ever lived.
ftfy

>>49291222
So that mean you are a woman for being so bad at numbers then.

>>49291237
>lack of basic reading comprehension
>weak, emotion based argument
stop bleeding all over yourself and go make a bunt cake or something

>>49291135
>he thinks that they are the only 3 people who have every contributed anything
christ man, you are dumb as shit. the OP also claimed that no women had done anything, which is untrue.

>>49290936

All you could come up with was 3 people, one of whom is reviled?

>>49291253
>emotion based argument
It seem you are the one mad about being proven wrong.