Malifaux General - Dat Ass Edition

>What's your terrain mix?
I assume this is asking theme, and our group has a bunch, we have a casino/boom town, now a "eastern" board, a carnival board, a desert board, and a derelict ship board.
>how much terrain?
a lot, and it's gonna be even more when I finish up the forests, graveyard, hanging trees, and victorian buildings I have in store. and all of that is if I decide not to do some vegetation like bushes and some green area cover (considering I had a player bitching at me and our lack of forests last week)
>Do you base your models based off what would look cool on your model or to match the playmat you normally play on
Depends usually whatever looks cool.

>>49144381
There's apparently a modest Malifaux scene nearby me. Can you give me a rundown on the rules, or an example turn of play?

>>49144472
https://temp-share.com/f/wktjomdiqw/4523669ae2b9d0b11121b51252b3dc093a7e2f6c5858b5dabc0709faced7fef3

You flip to see who decided who starts the turn, then you take turns activating models, spending 2 AP (3 if they're a master) and one 0 action, then everything ends and you score points and the next turn starts.

Duels are either against each other or a TN. For a TN you need to reach a target number with your Ml/Sh/Ca + your flipped card, for opposing duels you need to get the same or a higher total than the defender. If there's funny little faces on the card you get a nice little bonus if your card has that face too.

>>49143931
Having played against 10T brothers frequently I'd say they are the thing I most envy in the 10 Thunders. A cheep hard to kill scheme runner that protects scheme markers? Holy shit, at least Performers are mercs so anyone can hire them.

what do you guys feel about the crossroads 7?

viable pick for games or just a silly gimmick?

>>49145239
All of them are viable for certain crews.

The "entire crossroads" is a mid tier crew if you take i pay better and the +1 to auras in outcast.

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Reposting from the previous thread.

Is a Child good with 'On The Clock' Guild McMourning?
I had the idea of making a little surgeon assistant that Douglas has taken under his wing in lieu of the Chihuahua.
Plus I think them pulling rank on the Guild with 'On Order of the Governor’s Secretary' would help out.

>>49145865
Can they give out Precise? I think that would be pretty scary, the interacts sound okay but being able to give out precise without wasting doug's precious AP is pretty awesome.

>>49145939
It's a (1) Ca action, so yeah no reason they can't (aside from the TN, I guess. I think the Child needs an 8+).

>>49144381
After months of searching I picked up that alt Lady J sculpt, it's shit. Don't be fooled.

>>49145865
That could work. The chihuahua doesn't get much use besides a cheap abdication since Guild don't play the poison game very well.

Does McCabe dismounting summon Killjoy?
I'm certain it doesn't but I just couldn't be bothered arguing by that point.
I had a shit day at work then this guy is trying every single dodgy trick like he could only have fun whilst cheating, I was on the ropes and he would have won with or without killjoy anyway, all it did was mince my remaining blood wretch.

>>49148097
Just checked the wording, mounted McCabe is removed from the game, not sac or killed so no Killjoy.

>>49147444
>>49146792
>>49145939
Thanks.

>Precise
I totally overlooked that. I was more weighing up the use and humour of a child ordering people about vs a Poisoned doggie.
Thanks for reminding me.

>>49148534
You could also do up the Brutal Effigy in scrubs.

>>49144848
So with that being said would you run 1, 2 or 3 of them?
Which masters do they work best with? I would assume Lynch right out because of your ability to hold aces.

>>49149284
I was thinking the Carrion Effigy with a head swap and probably have the mask around their neck or pulled to the top of their head.
Also alter the staff.

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Here's my Sim29 guys.

>>49149384
Well as mentioned last thread one is useful to any master and also not bad for denying hunting party/make them suffer.

I would only take two in pools with lots of schemes that use markers, protect territory, breakthrough, etc. Though some of the gaining ground schemes can be stopped without removing the marker, convict labor and leave your mark come to mind. It would be rare that three would be worth it over other options.

As far as synergy goes:
Lynch -- has ace in the hole for their dance and for going defensive. They add a few free flips to fish for said aces.

Shenlong -- lets them go defensive as a 0 action or focus which is good with their wide damage spread.

McCabe -- always likes good minions and his Saber makes them hit hard on top of being tough.

Asami -- she already likes scheme marker strategies and the brothers help there plus the focus thing mentioned before

Brewmaster, Yan Lo, Misaki, Mei Fang -- no particular synergy just if you need what they bring to the table

>>49138326
>Brewmaster vs McMourning would be a clusterfuck of a matchup.
The guys playing before my game today did that match-up.
It was indeed a clusterfuck.
There was about +40 Poison on the table at one point. Nightmare.

Then I played the McMourning player and Gotrek'd - I think the final score was 8-1.
It was, to be fair, a pretty killy scheme pool, and a lot of his shit was very resilient. I also misplayed several key activations, and forgot a bunch of pushes and places that would've given me much more advantageous positioning.

Nonetheless, the McM pushes, poison auras and condition stacks were absolutely crazy.

So, any tips on the McM Vs Colette matchup?
I am new and not very good.

>>49146897
Shit how?
What's wrong with it?

>>49150031
>Sim29
What is it?
Ze goggles do nothing, I don't have my books handy, all I can tell is that it's McMourning related.
His Avatar form? A mega-Flesh Construct?

>>49150562
Typically, you are not going to beat colette at the scheme game. Destroy her beaters, then spend the rest of the game going for your schemes and the strat. An ugly win is always better than a pretty loss.

>>49150562
Well if he was using the Transfusion upgrade(I think that's what it's called) to move poison from his models to yours get performers in there to use their Sip of Wine trigger first. Nothing like a flesh construct stripped of poison and damaged in the process. Beyond that focus on schemes, maybe get a few more killy things to help out in the more killy pools.

What do you have for Colette?

>>49150615
It's the avatar for McMorning

>>49150615
McMourning's avatar. Good Carrion Emissary or Archie proxy.

>>49150615
1st ed Avatar. McM would summon a super monster call Simulacrum 29.

>>49150617
I was playing Colette.
He did pretty much exactly that to Joss - Poisoned, Paralyzed, more Poison and then a couple of prods to put him in the death-zone.
Then he did it to Cassandra too.

35ss.
Scheme-wise, it was (from memory):
Reckoning
Murder Protege
Assassinate
Bodyguard
Frame for Murder.
& Line in the Sand

I took Line and Frame.
Colette (Trapdoors and Dove-summoning), Cassandra (Df trigger), Joss, Performer, Freikorps Trapper.

>>49150788
>Cont.
He was running a hospital crew - McM box plus the Starter box models.

I deployed foolishly, then moved foolishly, and pretty much got tied up in the middle and let him load poison on Joss and then Nurse Heartsbane got Conulsions(?) off on Cassandra to drag her though his lines after she'd activated and put her down to a couple of wounds.

Virtually everything ended up dying because of the Aura triggering Poison at the start of the activation, except the things that Grimwell decapitated.

I got thoroughly outplayed, only a small part of which was because I didn't understand how his crew worked.

>>49150934
gremlin arcanist dual faction fucking WHEN

i want some alcohol gamin

>>49151289
I just want Gremlin/Resser. And instead of a crazy witchdoctor just have it be Dracula or something.

>>49151357
I would like to see a gremlin/guild hybrid where there is a gremlin master thats like a smaller lenny; strong, but stupid. There would be 3 totems that he takes, each one has a different ability that pisses off their master where you can call him names or fat or the like. each time that happens it would piss him off / damage him / make him faster or stronger that turn. the fluff around him being that the master just thinks he is a tough guy the its really the totems that are leading the crew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG8dgN6x2EA

>>49150031
Noice!

When is Wyrd gonna update their promotions page? I wana know if I am buying stuff this month for a free model

>>49151289
Ew, don't touch my faction, it's bad enough that we had to get the token TT dual master.

>>49151892
you will take it and you will love it

Does /tg/ or the thread have a good spot to post trade requests/fodder? Or is using the Wyrd forums better?

>>49152141
We only dual with real factions.

>>49151357
I like that idea. Fake vampire teeth and"mesmeric" eyes.

Alternatively a master taxidermist would be cool.

>>49152269
What are your looking for?
Wyrd might be a better bet.

>>49152269
I'd use the "wyrd trades and off-topic" facebook group.

>>49153595
I didn't know about that one. Thanks anon!

What's the average SS count in crew boxes? + / - how many additional models should be bought to have 50SS worth of minis?

>>49150562
It only looks good from the pictured angle. Once you deviate, it's flat as hell, has terrible anatomy, and looks more like an eldritch attempting to impersonate a physical three dimensional being.

>>49155311
So it'd make a good Viktoria proxy?

>>49155347
Heh, I wish.
Comparing this to the Vik alts would be a disservice to the concept.

>>49152269
Gadzooks man, they sell singles.

>>49155163
I think the average is around 35SS. Some are way low (Kirai is like 12SS) and others are high (Perdita can hit 50SS easily)

Typically, a crew and either another crew or 1-2 boxes can get you set up.

>>49156131
I know, but if I can get rid of stuff I'll never use for rare stuff that I'd like or multiples than whatever it's a better deal.

>>49156370
My bad, misunderstood.
>>49155163
Here's some data.

>>49156474
Wow, forgot the link.
>http://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/117589-crew-boxes-total-ss-per-box-plus-averages-and-other-data/

>>49156474
No worries man, I do appreciate the suggestion. But with luck I can roll the die and not pay $20+Shipping for Papa Loco's plastic.

Took about five minutes for someone to start negotiating for the Vintage Rasputina.

>>49156632
Yea, some of their prices can be a bit ridiculous. I just get cheap duplicates.
You have any vintage outcasts, preferably non dual factioned?

>>49156726
Sadly no. But my plan is to get the Vintage Hamelin next when I get enough guilders. I have no interest in the rat man but I'll gladly trade and only ask that my tourney fees be at least partially recouped. I like the game, so fuck scalping stuff that I'm going to earn anyway.

>>49156726
Oh and let me be smart and list what I have if folks are interested.

>Miss Terious (Built and painted by a local professional. I do not have the card.)
>Miss Fire (Unbuilt and still on the sprue with a card in poifect condition)
>Alternate Francisco (built and painted by me so it's rookie work. But all parts are there so the paint can be stripped. I do have the card)
>Limited Edition Katanaka Sniper (Pack in from Jorogumo. Card was curved on the edges but it is legible and model on sprue)

>>49156781
I'm looking for a Hamelin or primarily a 300-900dpi scan of the card.
What are you looking for?

>>49156890
Well I don't have one right now and it'll be some time before I get more guilder (With Nova season not sure when the next tournaments will be). Are you looking for the new stat card with the vintage face or just a regular one? If I win the stat card/model I'll be glad to trade either. I'll talk to my TO's about the card.

I'm looking for
>Sensei Yu or a built/painted Yan Lo for my >Papa Loco (New Plastic),
>Lazarus for Vanessa Shenanigans, >Abominations and Mindless Zombies/Seishin for Rusty and Anna summons
>Viktoria's avatar because I can't bring myself to buying old dude on donkey.

Money is always nice

>>49157203
>Lazarus for Vanessa Shenanigans
Campaign Anon here. What sort of shenanigans? I know our viks player is going to be getting Vanessa soon, and I'd love to point her int he right direction from there.

>>49157690
Vanessa can use command construct to make Lazarus take 1 actions. So free walks, focus, or shots are sexy. Plus they help fill the Viks void of a lack of ranged.

So I've been considering my crews and options, and I'm at a loss. I'm trying to give a short description of what each of the Masters I own does, and from there I was going to write a list of what schemes and strats they're good at, so I could peek at it during the list building phase. What I have so far:

Mei Feng: Anti-ranged, melee beater, mobility (Constructs).
McCabe: Minion Support, Speed, AP Control (Slow/Fast).
Yan Lo: Durability (Ascendants), Repositioning, Melee Beater
Shenlong: ??????

I'll admit I've only played with the man once, but how do you qualify what he does? What would you say he even does? Specifically, what would you use him for in schemes and strats over others, and what would you use others for instead of him?

>>49158059
Shenlong: Everything

>>49158059

Flexibility and support.

His ability to stance dance lets him change to the match the situation, and he let his crew rack up huge amount of Focus just by spending 0 actions which most minions don't normally have.

>>49158158
>he let his crew rack up huge amount of Focus just by spending 0 actions
I've managed to miss this. How?

>>49157203
Yup, I assumed so. Just trying to hop in queue early.
Really just the stat card, and even then I'd only want it to scan it in 900dpi myself.
Only ones I can trade are Lazarus and Viks Avatar, otherwise money is preferred.

>>49158059
Also, I'd sooner classify Yan Lo as disruption rather than melee beater. He's pretty much made for throwing a wrench into the enemy's plans, getting into the thick of it not to kill things but simply to tear their group apart.Counterscheming or whatever.

As for Shenlong, he goes well with everything except purely killy schemes, and even there he's still an okay choice. He's a all-round flexible buff and even debuffer, healer, and can dish out huge counterattacks once in a while.

Lynch is damage damage damage. Also card advantage* (*damage) and more damage.

Misaki is a sideline harrasser who can at any moment turn into a scalpel that dives in and kills out whatever you want.

Mei Feng is more of a Brawler than a beater, and isn't really designed to take on big targets, more groups of targets.

McCabe is support for everyone. The minion thing only applies for Black Flash. And his AP control is more of a Slow-debuffer. He can't hold a candle to Shenlong for overal AP control.

Brewmaster is Debuffer. That's it. Don't bother with the poison and focus on how easy it is to kill something with a - to everything/drain their hand 5 cards per activation and likely kill/paralyze it while you're at it.

>>49158222
Well I'll see what I can do. I'll shoot out a message to the local Henchies or facebook group after Nova weekend. Cause no one's paying attention right now. All I got is the normal Hamelin card and I could mail that to ya.

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>>49158222
>>49157203
Yes, the m2e vintage specifically. I have the m2e regular version.

>>49158300
With that in mind, would you mind listing what schemes and strats you think they're best at? Specifically for Yan Lo, SHenlong, Mei Feng, and McCabe.

>>49158309
Is that what it looks like? Dammit Wyrd, make a vintage vikky so I can get on that!

Anyway, If I win my next two tournaments I'll order this up and get back to you

>>49158314
Without going into all schemes individually...

Yan Lo is ideal for anything that requires control of board regions. He can so casually tear group structures apart and occupy large groups of units (never bother with the Kakkura, take Misdirection instead), and combined with Relinquary basically capitalize on the fact that neither Yan nor any of his crew are even worth the effort it takes to kill them, since they'll bounce right back up again in seconds.

McCabe, especially if you have some guild hounds, is the best schemer TT has. He can get across the field in an instant, and lets his crew follow suit. His upgrades make it so that any model in his crew can double as something to occupy the enemy. Basically anything that relies on your crew being apart, he can do really well in.

Mei Feng is a Brawler. What that basically means is that she's essentially designed to take the heat off her team. With the - to Ca/Sh, large engagement range and incredible speed, she can tie up swaths of models while her crew gets on with whatever it is they're doing. From what you have she's the best at killing, though the three remaining masters are all better at it than she. I'd say she's more a pick for when the opponent is bringing a large amount of models and challenging that (Arcanists/Ressers with a schemepool that rewards bringing more models), rather than scheming herself. Despite being so fighty she's not ideal for fighty schemes.

Shenlong is almost like McCabes close-range counterpart in what you take him for? Amazing at scheming and counterscheming with his Wandering River Style, brings huge control over your and your opponent's models and placement, and is really just a great pick at almost any kind of scheme. Even fighty schemes he does well at as, like McCabe, he's basically a force multiplier for his crew. Except Shenlong brings amazing healing to boot. And free focus for everyone.

>>49158314
>>49158567

As for crews, Yan and Mei are very tied to a specific core of models and printed synergies, while the rest of TT basically consists of a master that does whatever it is he does and a crew that might capitalize on that, but never has to rely on it. McCabe might want a huge minion, Lynch might like people who discard or gain +++, but in the end you can essentially make a list that's good at the schemes you want to do, and then paste a master on top of it.

>>49158664
>you can essentially make a list that's good at the schemes you want to do, and then paste a master on top of it.
So Infiltration isn't worth considering?

Shock treatment

>>49160464
Infiltration is great. You can include models you normally couldn't either as standalones or to complement your master.

Mei loves metal gamin and the golem, McCabe is great with hounds or any Guardsmen, Lynch loves depleted and stitched, and even Yan Lo might hire an onryo now and again.

Book 4 adds great stuff to infiltrate, namely Wokou Raiders for Misaki and Goryo for Yan Lo.

>>49160464
>>49164227
>Infiltrate
What is?
How does it work?
Or does it just mean dual-faction Masters can still take TT units in the 'other' faction?

I don't have my books available to me.

>Playing Collodi last night for one of the first times
>Playing with Coryphee
>Lililth pulls one of them in with her stupid BS spell, fails to kill. Collodi My Wills it twice, chain activates it, it kills Lilith
>The Coryphee (pair) then proceed to kill a Teddy, Mr. Graves and others

Those things are fucking ridiculous. Good God they're good.

>>49164849
I am and idort, found my .pdfs, never mind.

>>49164879
>The Coryphee (pair)
You don't mean a Coryphee Duet, I assume, because they can only Dance Together in Arcanist crews.

But yes, they are great surgical strikers.

>>49164911
Nah I meant just two individual Coryphee

And even tanking they seemed ok. Hell they get positives to pretty much anything. Of course, Collodi makes them kind of bonkers.

This did come up though just to make sure this is right:

My Will states the Minion can make a 1 action that gets positive flips to any duels. The Coryphee 1 action MI also naturally gets a positive flip to any duels.

That means if Collodi My Wills the Coryphee it gets a double positive on that attack right?

Also--if it states "Within 6 inches.."....it doesn't require LOS right? So you can My Will around a corner?

>>49165165
That's right the Coryphee will get [+][+] and flip three cards for the attack/

As for My Will it says "Target minion within 6 inches", the use of 'target' means you need line of sight.

>>49165242

Ahh ok, well I screwed that part up then. I My Willed through a forest...

>>49156474
>>49156501
Thanks Anon. Couldn't get a more detailed info.

>>49156501
>Kirai
>14 SS
What?
I was planning on getting Kirai as my first crew because of the entire mythology aspect but if her box is worth so little then what would I have to buy just to get to 35ss or even 50?
Is she a horde force or something?

>>49165995
Don't get a summoner as your first master. To be effective they all need a huge amount of extra models.

>>49165995
Almost all Ressers are summoners, venturing into them you are looking at something like 150+ as a starting point. Some models are more useful than others though, so you can pick those up first. In my experience though other than the seishin and maybe one onryo you won't bring the rest of the box. Kirai wants a datsu ba for more seishin, a box of gaki, a box of drowned, maybe jaakuna umbae depending on how you want your list, one hanged at least for summoning, izamu, and some shikome. She doesn't really use totems that much, some people rave about the gravyard spirit but I've never gotten a ton of use out of it.

>>49166048
Is it just the model count that's an issue? Because coming from 40K, Malifaux looks rather cheap by comparrison.

>>49166118
Thanks the the advice.

>>49167077
Yeah, basically. If you dont have any limits on your wallet you can start with whatever.

>>49165995
It's not that she's a hoard so much that most of the stuff in her box she'll get for free. The ikirio is summoned not hired, same with seishin. Then the Lost Love and Onryo are just cheap.

>>49166118
That is a good summery of what she'll need. I'll just add in that Philip and the Nanny from take back the night is also very good for the card draw they can give and the Crooligans in there are also quite good as scheme runners.

>>49167162
With 40k I tended to buy one thing a week or fortnight. Less no limits and more collected at a slow pace

>>49167281
> free
that explains it.

>>49167379

Not a bad plan of attack really.

Most of the things she needs can retail for less than $20 if you do it right, so she won't be too bad to slow build.

>>49167077
>Because coming from 40K, Malifaux looks rather cheap by comparrison.
It is. You can buy a crew box for about what you'd pay for a single tank for 40k.

I probably could have bought all the models for a faction for less then i spent on my 1500pt guard army.

>>49166118
I thought lost love was pretty much an auto include.

>>49167808
I think it depends on who you ask. He's a bit pricey, so I could see leaving him out. I almost always run him.

>>49144381
>What's your terrain mix?
I've actually been attempting to replicate vassal maps to sort of establish standard terrain. I use templates as the functional terrain, but attach 3d representations to reach for looks. Very nice for ease of play.
>how much terrain?
1/3 or 3 cubic gets worth.
>Do you base your models based off what would look cool on your model or to match the playmat you normally play on
I base on clear acrylic, only plebs or competition modelers go scenic. :^)

Today I learned I get tumblr-tier triggered about people pronouncing Ml (ml) as MI (mi).

>>49170381
You're not alone, anon. I get triggered by people saying "Ml" as "emm eye"

>>49170381
>>49170463
Isn't that short for melee? I always thought it was M, lower case L.

>>49170509
It is

>>49170509
Exactly. I can see how Ml is visually the same as MI but OH WHO AM I KIDDING Sh IS RIGHT THERE, SECOND LETTER LOWERCASE, ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND OR FUCKING RETARDED when they make that mistake I try to correct them politely.

>>49169998
>clear acrylic
That actually sounds pretty cool. Where do you get clear bases?

Guild won US Nationals for the 2nd year in a row!

>>49170381
>>49170463
>>49170935
>>49170939
Huh. All this time I was wondering why the hell they'd use mi as an abbreviation for melee.

>>49171960
Nellie?

>>49172014
Wave 4 wasn't legal for this one. If last year was any indication, he probably ran Sonnia all the way through.

>>49170381
>>49170463
>>49170509
Why would you not just say melee?

>>49171960
Interesting.
I thoguht Guild were typically not that strong, by general opinion, due to the less-than-excelletn Scheming capabilities.

>>49172520
I think the guy plays by the 3rd secret win condition. They can't score VPs if they're all dead turn 3. Guild is great at that.

>>49171960
Any additional details or link?
>>49172520
That's what I say, but I started doubting my reading of Ml so had to verify. I'm guessing the "m i" people say goofy shit because they don't want to ask what that "i" stands for.

>>49172698
Nothing yet, they just finished.

Played my lilith grow list vs a perdita crew today. finished 9/1 in my favor, Dude couldn't stop me from make a mature and nekima proceeded to eat through several dudes.

>>49173043
Did you learn anything, is there anything he could have done better be out crew build or play?

>>49173079
I gave him a few pointers on how he could better run astringers, as he seemed to want to run them out into the middle when he should have held back. I also recommended to him that he hold abuela back as she was the first thing I gibbed to make a young nephilim.
I think it was kind of a poor matchup for him to be honest because I proceeded to lure in and then conga-line his crew. Each death just meant I could control the board a little bit more. He did well on turns 2-3 killing off two tots and a young, but I dunno what he could have done to stop me from getting into melee with him.

He was hyped after the game though, he had never seen a grow list and told me he really enjoyed playing against it even after I tabled him.

>>49173043
How do you play Nekima effectively? I've faced her a bunch of times and every single time I just wiped her off the table turn 2-3 without much casualties.

>>49173317
as someone who uses nekima a lot i'd like to know this too.
I just tend to use her as a massive distraction that my opponents can't ignore.
I've been running her with titania a bit recently and queens champion makes nekima scary.

>>49173317
I play her with true mother and I set up a slingshot with Lilith usually keeping nekima as the last thing in the crew that I move on the first turn so I know she will connect with something.
Once nekima has made combat you wanna bury that bitch in combat every turn. If you kill something have something else that can push you into combat or make Damn sure you can win init next turn. once nekima has killed 2 things and possibly made you a mature nephilim he job is done, you can let her die. She's a scalpel with a fair amount of wounds but she's no tank, let her deal her parting blows and don't worry when she eventually goes down. also remember that Blood for blood is an amazing ability that is a final "Fuck you" to hard to kill models that can net you a terror tot in the process.

>>49173417
I want so badly to try this out but no one wants to sell me their titania box around here.

So I own the dreamer but I have yet to play him, how does one build a shooty list with him?

So question for the thread.

I want to use I Pay Better and just realized that it's an aura so the hench wielding it can benefit if they're a merc.

Sooo...who would you use this on in a viks list? I was thinking Anna Lovelace.

>>49174488

Lazarus could be neat.

dice+4d6

>>49174606
dice+2d6

>>49174578
For sure! But I was asking who should hold it. I'd prefer not to throw it on either Vik since they'll likely die and Lazarus can't hold it himself since, I believe, he's an enforcer.

Mostly pondering whether Envy or a hench with IPB is better.

>>49174684

Sorry, I spaced on IPB's requirements.

Off the top of my head Wrath, Taelor, Anna, and Hannah are the only merc Henchmen I can think of. Anna probably is still the best bet since she has a solid ranged attack and can stop things from placing near her. Taelor could also be neat if you can keep her alive.

Wrath is probably too fragile and Hannah doesn't really do much for a Viks crew since there aren't a lot of casting actions.

>>49174872
I came to the same conclusion actually. Though IPB with a nearby Big Jake is fantastic. Such a fun model.

Just don't be dumb like me. I was not using his consult the ancestors every turn so in a ramos vs Viks game the mech rider basically rubbed Big Jake's hips for whatever the 2016 distract is.

>>49174488
Grimwell for a focused lobotomy.

>>49175866
*starts to raise an objection*

*blinks*

Ah hell he is a merc isn't he? Dammit! Good catch anon!

>>49155163
http://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/117589-crew-boxes-total-ss-per-box-plus-averages-and-other-data/

>>49174131
Widow Weaver, Stitched, Insidious Madness, Emissary, Doppelganger, Angel Eyes, Tuco, Envy, Lazarus

The big hit besides retribution's eye on Lazarus would be Dreamer hitting somebody surrounded by nightmares. Managing your Chompy can be tricky, so Scion of Black Blood might be needed.

If I use Mei Feng's 'jackhammer kick' for a disengaging strike and fail, I'm still pushed into contact with the target as it attempts to leave my melee range. If it attempts to leave my new melee range from that spot, do I get another disengaging strike?

Can "Numb to the World", the Guild upgrade, allow you to ignore getting Distracted/Tagged/etc? Also, could someone post Nellie's upgrades? They aren't in the OP links.

>>49179564
it's in the FAQ. You place but the target has already declared a successful disengaging strike so they get to walk after Mei Feng gets placed

>>49172980
Any updates on the list or games?

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>>49179829

>>49180118
Sonnia in all but one game, Perdita in the other.

>>49182520
Sonnia with flame walls, papa box, Emissary, Austringer, Francisco, watcher (I think) and 3 expert sleuths for +6 to initiative on a crucial turn.

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>>49182749
Final standings and factions. Apart from 10T, every faction was in the top 8.

Man, I wish we could get better tourney coverage.

>>49179829
>Can Numb to the World..yaddayadda
I'm leaning yes because those are actions from other models. Would like official word though.

>>49179829
>>49183311
>Numb to the World
Well Distracted and the other conditions from schemes are still conditions given out by enemy models so unless an FAQ says otherwise then you can.

>>49183735
The trick is whether "may choose not to gain" is different from removing the condition. Mark, Tag, and Exhaust specify that no action or ability may remove them.

By RAW I'd say they're different wordings so Numb would prevent it, but I'm not sure.

>>49184089
>they're different wordings
Exactly, Malifaux is pretty straight forward and exact when it comes to wording. Not gaining a condition is different from removing it so the specification that they can't be removed never applies.

If they had wanted it to work differently they could have worded it something like: "When this model gains a condition from an action or ability of an enemy model it may immediately remove that condition without applying it's effects." That would then leave conditions on that could not normally be removed.

>>49184280
>>49184089
Fair points. Looks like that's a handy upgrade.

I'm not a guild player but is Curfew simply good for anti-ressers? When would you use this upgrade before other things and on who?

>>49184482
>When would you use this upgrade before other things and on who?
Thematic Ortegas love it. The Family all has Companion, effectively letting you cut your number of activations in half in return for being able to pound on you with double-activations.

>>49182922
> 10T highest is #16
Have I made a mistake in choosing this faction?

>>49182922
Winner's crew for 5/6 games

50 SS Guild Crew
Sonnia Criid + 4 Pool
- Cherufe's Imprint (1)
- Counterspell Aura (1)
- Expert Sleuth (1)
Malifaux Child (3)
Francisco Ortega (8)
- Wade In (1)
- Hermanos de Armas (1)
Papa Loco (7)
Death Marshal (6)
Guild Austringer (6)
Guild Austringer (6)
Brutal Effigy (4)
Watcher (4)

(exported from CrewFaux)

For the one game he went Perdita w/ trick shooting, os veo, no hermanos on Frank, and the nephilim

>>49184532
It might have been a terrain thing. The top factions all have a very strong ranged game (Guild was apparently playing Sonnia and Perdita, for example), while 10T, NB, and Resser crews are often pretty biased towards Ml.

I know literally nothing about the event except for what's in this thread, however, so that's entirely speculative. 10T have at least three very solid masters, though, and to my knowledge only one of them is really considered sub-par (Hi Mei!). I'd take it the rankings as an unfortunately odd quirk rather than an indicator that something's wrong with the faction.

>>49144381
>What's your terrain mix?
Generally a bit of everything. Our group has a small pool of assorted terrain and we'll pick and mix what we want or are planning to use.

>how much terrain?
Depends on the theme. City will have up to half the board in buildings, fences, walls the the like.
Wasteland may have as little as a sixth in rocks, dead trees, hills and lonely, forgotten graves.
My favrioute set-up is the 'High Noon' board a friend made with buildings seperated by narrow allys flanking either side of a nice wide central road, some trees and a small grave yard at the edges behind the buildings.
Most people tend to be less focused on winning on this board and more on having fun. You tend to get the the theme to 'The good, the bad and the ugly' whistled at least once during a game.

>Do you base your models based off what would look cool on your model or to match the playmat you normally play on
What I think looks good.
I use themed inserts or full resin bases for my guys. after custom-making craftworld bases for my 40k Eldar, I have been rather fed up with it all and take the easier way.
I'm putting together a Dora and friends crew though specifically for a tournament coming up early next year and thanks to >>49169998 I know know how I'll base them. It'll keep things nice, clean and conservative.

>>49184532
There's always a dearth of 10T players, so poor representation is the likely culprit.

10T can do all kinds of crazy shit, I wouldn't worry.

>>49184517
....ok that's actually solid and I'm mad at you for pointing it out to me. I have a guy I'm giving the upgrade cards to and he loves the family activation rush....he'll love it even more now.

>>49171923
Not who you are asking but Wyrd makes coloured, translucent bases in each factions colours. I'm assuming this is what they meant by 'clear'.
For actual clear bases, I don't know if anyone makes them.
One idea is get in touch with a perspex supplier and see if you could commission disks cut to the right diameter.

>>49184655
>>I'd take it the rankings as an unfortunately odd quirk rather than an indicator that something's wrong with the faction.

Seconded

>>49184517
Holy alpha strike batman!
Goes for guild rifleman/hounds as well

>>49184790
The moment I hit send, I remembered this
http://www.delviesplastics.com/p/Laser_Cut_Clear_Acrylic_Discs.html

I haven't bought from them personally. I had them book marked for a crafting idea that never panned out so I don't know what they'll be like.

>>49184731
How do you look at something that wants the fewest activations possible and not immediately think "Ortegas"?

>>49184831
You might've thought about a high-end hoffball or some gimmicky Lady J list with Sidir + promises + a bunch of beater henchmen.

>>49184831
Only one guy plays Ortegas in my local meta and he's a for funsies player who throws Francisco at beaters claiming that "He's too sexy to be hit by melee".

Thanks to him I have a headcanon where my Viks cannot kill him because they love that man's mustache. (Seriously, flips even with focusing protects that man and I've not yet killed him).

>>49182520
>>49182749
>>49182922
>>49184626
Thanks for the updates, man.

In preparation for our next local tourney, I've been putting up the strat and schemes of each round 1 week at a time, hopefully to give folks a little extra practice and to make things go a bit more smoothly the day of.

Here's this week's

Strategy: Turf War
Deployment: Standard
Schemes: Convict Labor, Take Prisoner, Exhaust Their Forces, Public Demonstration, Inspection

Entirely nonviolent pool, how would you play it?

>>49187691
I'd probably take collodi, wreck face in the middle of the board with a puppet related murderball

>>49187691
Somerteeth jones summon engine with show off on lenny and probably mancha roja if I have the points.

>>49187747
That sounds delightfully brutal. Which schemes would you pick?

>>49187691
I'm still learning Sandeep, so I'll stick with him. Paralyze on the Gada is a must, probably Valedictorian, Howard and/or Joss to keep the middle clear. I'll throw in a performer or two to dictate positioning. With all my summoning and mobility, Inspection and Exhaust seem like the best options. Convict Labor is easy with practiced production on Cassandra, too.

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What expectations does this general of for the Other Side?

>>49187691
Take Seamus, make it violent. Might not be a bad time to use the Mad Bomber Seamus build.

>>49188410
Not terribly excited.

>>49187691
Ten Thunders player. Either grab Shenlong or Yan Lo, and shove their troops away from the turf marker. A single Sniper to disable any enemy support pieces, and grab Exhaust their Forces (Free Interacts from Shenlong and Yu) and Take Prisoner. If they make it a fight, both of those can fight fairly well, but they don't want it to be. Very minion-light, Quality heavy - I'm thinking Sidir for AoE damage with the machine gun's tactical action, Yin for General Goodstuff, and a thunders brother because that's just what you do.

I'm a neverborn player and I really struggle dealing with Sidir whenever people take him against me. my normal method of dealing with ranged stuff is to pull it towards me with beckoners and then just kill it but I can't do that with him, I know he's pretty short range but it's just frustrating trying to deal with him.

>>49188410

In theory it sounds need, but I don't think there's enough information about it for me to form an opinion.

>>49188977
He's not very tough and his gun doesn't do a ton of damage. If you can't move him around, move one of your models up to him. A Tot could hold him up pretty well.

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Hi. I'm new, and I have some questions about colette and Malifaux;

1; if colette prompts a performer and uses the final act trigger, and is within 3" when the performer is sacrificed at the end of the turn, thus giving colette reactivate from precious, does colette reactivate imediately, or the next turn, or is the reactivate condotion wasted?

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>>49189125
Also, do you want to see my arcane emissary that I just painted?

>>49188410
Meh. I love wyrd, but this seems like they're stepping in thier own toes.

Part of the attraction of Malifaux is that you get the wargame itch scratched with a low model count. Adding squad based combat doesn't seem to add much depth to me for the increased cost of entry.

I'm still interested in the fluff. And some of the models might work for cross over stuff which would be cool.

Can't be worse then 40k.

>>49189348
I'd say the same thing. I got tired of 40K and to an extent Warmachine's bullshit as they constantly push giant centerpiece kits rather than practical gaming pieces. Having a game where the absolute largest figure sits on a 50mm base is nice.

I definitely will look for conversion material myself. Now that Dashel can summon guild guards, having more sculpts to avoid identical twins will be nice.

>>49189408
It was nice going transitioning from 40k. It was nice moving tens of models instead of hundreds.

For the same price of a 40k army I can get a crew, pay someone to paint it, buy all the stuff for a nice board, and still have money left over. Maybe even grab a second crew for a friend to play.

>>49189125
I'm not sure. I'd have to check the wording on reactivate.
>>49189170
Post it.

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>>49189556
>>49189614

>>49189348
>>49189408
Well it seems like that's why they are making them different systems. Keep Malifaux as the low model skirmish game and make The Other Side for larger scale and we don't even know how much bigger that scale is.

>>49189125
Like most conditions Reactivate is removed at the end of the turn (unlike slow and fast), so the question is are conditions removed in the end phase when that's the phase they are ended in. I lean towards still having Reactivate on the next turn but I might get removed.

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>>49189651

>>49189614
>>49189634
>>49189651

Slip a white piece of paper behind your minis friend.

I can't see shit.

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>>49189666
Check'em

I saw this on the official Wyrd forums and nobody there had an answer: What happens if you have to flip a card (say, for a defense duel, or attacking someone) and you have no cards in both your deck and your discard?

>>49190408
You pick your deck up from off the floor, shuffle it, then flip. But seriously, how would you be in a situation where you have nothing in your deck and discard simultaneously. Was your deck stolen?

>>49190541
Som'Er Teeth Jones, Family Tree, 12 Bayou gremlins, and Pere Ravage. You draw 2 cards whenever a bayou gremlin dies in range of Som'er, so if you've successfully summoned maximum (Which is theoretically possible over the course of a game), you could be drawing 48 cards, plus the 6 you started your turn with, when Pere pops.

This is obviously extremely theoretical, but it's possible within the rules of the game, and it fits into 50 stones.

>>49190408
I have no idea how you have a hand that consists of your entire deck but at that point I guess you go straight to cheating. Because as far as I know there are only three places for cards to be. Deck, discard, or hand.

>>49189680
lookin good, needs some brighter eyes

>>49190765
Cards can also be in the process of being flipped, but I'm not sure how you'd manage to flip 40+ cards at once.

Lightning Jump with the crow trigger into the world's biggest pile of rats?

>>49191605
film it

>>49189680
Try filling in the gap on his shoulder

Otherwise I think that it is OK

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Are these the current university of transmortice cards? They do not seem to match up with pull my finger. If not where do I get updated ones?

>>49195379
At a glance they look right.
They're in the OP if you wanna double check.

>>49195379
Those are the original ones before they got reworked in wave 2.

>>49195594
Alright. How do I get the updated ones?

>>49195379
>>49195639

Those are the old ones. If you want the real cards wargamevault offers print on demand for them but you need to order a minimum of 10 cards for an order

http://www.wargamevault.com/

>>49195639
If you can find the wave 2 resser deck they should be in that.

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Ugh, I hate regretting not buying something. Wish I had picked up the Titania box at the Gencon sale.

Anyway happy Monday to you all, What do you hope/ plan to work on or play in the coming week?

>>49196093
Seamus crew for my brother once it arrives and then a bunch of teaching games so he can finally learn how to play.

>>49196093
Going to Thorsday this week (I think it's this week) and I"m hoping to get my Parker crew on the table. Wanna try them out at last.

>>49196207
Cool, after I get done with my firearms test tomorrow I'm gonna work on a commission of a perdita crew. Dude wants it done in coal black and green. If I finish that asami crew is in the future. I may end up playing some more lilith this week as everyone who saw my grow list is now lining up for a piece...it's pretty funny actually.

Hey, how expensive ist his game to get into?

I'm kinda looking at some victorias for entry level murdering and gangstering. Or parker barrows because he look hilarious when he comes out.

>>49196824
100 bucks can typically get you a full crew with strong options. But if you'd like two suggestions for the Viks check this out.

https://schemesandstones.wordpress.com/2016/08/27/building-on-a-budget-outcasts/

>>49196824
https://schemesandstones.wordpress.com/2016/08/27/building-on-a-budget-outcasts/

>>49196824
I'd suggest getting 2 crews and a small bunch of models that fit well with those masters. I can't think of a set of schemes that Parker and the Viks can't do. Should run you for about 100-150 dollar.

>>49196871
>>49196824

Goood to know. I was eyeing victoria of ashes and blood with hannah and Lazarus - what other kind of mercenary constructs are out there?

That's fairly cheap all around for a 'complete' entry list.

any advice for lilith since everyone seems so helpful tonight? i have her box so far. i really like the look of waldgeist

>>49196824
A full crew is like 8 models, so not too much compared to other games. Get the Viks crew box, buy some of the Outcasts staples, and when Parker's box comes out buy that as well. That would be all you would ever really need. Summon spam masters are a different story, but with Viks and Parker you should be fine.

>>49196914
>>49196940
I main viks and am thinking of kicking Jack out my list to play Parker since he's more my style. So I'm biased in saying you made the right choice.

Far as merc constructs...unless I'm mistaken Lazarus may be the only one.
>>49196949
According to this https://schemesandstones.wordpress.com/2016/08/21/building-on-a-budget-neverborn/ Lynch's box is useful but there's also a solo LIlith list posted.

The big thing with her is to use the forests and remember she doesn't really care about terrain for pulling things around.

>>49197134
>Far as merc constructs...unless I'm mistaken Lazarus may be the only one
Manikins irrc.

>>49196940

Also note that the Schemes and Stones guy is using Wyrd's store prices for all of those. If you shop around you can easily score most crew boxes other than the Wave 4 prerelease masters for around $35 or less.

>>49197254
>other than the Wave 4 prerelease masters
Related: Does anyone know someplace selling those?

>>49197219
>>49197134

Yeah, basically i was trying to think of ways to combo lazarus and hannah with other masters.

I kinda want Ashes and Dust because the core has the ability to make Lazarus fast.
Whats an easy/cheap way to sacrifice Ashes and Dust in outcasts?
Also, how do totems work? You only get one of each kind, or one of each per list, or what? I'm wondering if i go for a student of conflict if it locks me out of other totems, or what. I think i've seen net lists using more than one, so does it have interactions with mercenary?

>>49197416
You can only have one totem in play. A few masters can summon their totems and they always say stuff like "Sacrifice any other totem in play first". Far as the student of conflict, I don't really use her. I like the Malifaux Child in Viks.

Anyway, most totems tend to say (Totem (MASTERNAMEHERE) ) meaning that you can only hire them if you're using that master. Student of Conflict, Malifaux Child, and the generic totems in other factions don't have that restriction.

I don't use A&D so I'm not sure about that.

>>49197488
Why the child?

>>49197416
>>49197488
You can normally only hire one totem, a few let you hire additional of the same totem.

>>49197416

Leveticus can sacrifice A&D as a zero action in exchange for drawing two cards for a free 10 inch placement.

Plus A&D are thematic with Levi's crew.

>>49197557
The child can cast whatever spell Vik of Ash is holding once per turn saving an AP. So have the child cast Sisters in Fury to grant +2 melee damage or Synchronized Slaying so Vik of Ash gets a positive to shoot things (one or the other). It's super good.

He can also throw a heal at Vanessa to heal blood and Ash, but it requires a high ram.

>>49197638
Huh. It can target enforcers, not just your one Leader?

>>49197683
Just like you can only target the leader. The heal action can target anyone. So once I get him in a good spot I usually end up just casting one of Ash's spells and then throwing a heal if needed.

I'll admit I usually just hide him wayyyyy in the backfield behind terrain.

>>49196093
I have a Titania and her totem I don't care for, but keeping the hench and minions.

>>49196093

Just built up and primed Rogue necromancy, Tara box, graveyard spirit totem, death marshals and university of transmortis. Now to start painting.

Been working on getting all the ressurs stuff. I need Kirai and Reva for masters plus a good chunk of non master stuff. Mostly spirits. Yan Lo is in the mail. Will prolly need some more 10T stuff for him.

>>49199167
Really just Komainu. And even that only if you also have Toshiro and do a fair amount of summoning with him.

What are typical SS points values played in this game?

>>49199338
35 or 50, with 50 being the most common

>>49199338
It's balanced for 50. If you go lower you should expect some masters to quickly become far more powerful.

>>49199321
I have Toshiro so might be useful. Do they come in any masters box or just on their own only?

>>49199807
They're just in their own box, thankfully

I would like to run full (or mostly) robot crew.
I see that guild and arcanist have starter box with guy suited for my idea: C. Hoffman and Ramos.

Which one would be better for newb in Mallifaux?

>>49188410
It's gonna be something brand new and wicked fun.

Can't say anything more.

>>49199398
Same if you go higher.

Folks with large scale area buffs get better with more to buff, and area attacks get stronger with a more cluttered board

>>49200433
Either are fine starting places. Hoffman is probably a little more complicated, but not terribly so.

My usual recommendations for Ramos is another box of spiders, an Electric Creation, and Johan. Colette's box is also good if you're looking for a second master.

I honestly forget what's in Hoffman's starter, but there's probably two or three other robots you'd want to pick up plus maybe some guild staples like Stalkers. He also has the option to take some of the Arcanist constructs, so he's a bit more expensive to fill out all your options.

The other options for robot masters are Mei Feng, who loves robots because of her rail walk ability, Collodi since all his puppets are constructs (though maybe not robots, technically) and Leveticus who can take an upgrade to hire any non-Gremlin construct in the game.

>>49200639
Saved your post, thanks a lot anon.
I'll go with Ramos.

>>49167077
I started Ressers with Kirai and all I can say is don't. Shes in a weird place where she doesn't have as many points as other starters but at the same time Ikiryo just utter fucks other starters if you play her correctly.

I actually stopped playing Kirai until the other guys I started playing with got a bit more because starting crews generally can't deal with her crew too well.

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Bumpan so i can reads!

I run the Viks but gonna be jumping to Shen Long when payday comes!

>>49196093
Finishing up some assembly, and cleaning up some priming I fucked up on the Carrion Emissary. I swear priming is the toughest thing for me for reasons I don't fully understand. This time I was doing it when it was too humid outside and so none of the primer is sticking and it's cracking/peeling off.

>>49202522
I like the terrain.
What the fuck is going on with that color scheme?

>>49200681
Keep in mind that you can use most of Ramos's stuff with Hoffman if you ever feel like branching out

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Which master makes for the best Street Fighter crew?
I've been told Misaki, Toni, Viktorias and Mei of different people and Shenlong looks like a contender also.

I was wondering what everyone's own thoughts were about them.

I'm looking mostly for who would make for the best melee focused group with a nice and varied assortment. Like how many fighting games have an eye-catching eclectic cast.

>>49204691
Toni Ironsides is a Mortal Kombat character. Mei Feng is a Tekken character. None of the others are properly fighting game characters.

>>49203909
The tables missing its lamps so sorta extreme osl.. not a great painter so didnt fancy proper painting!>>49203909

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I've been personally leaning towards Mei or Toni, mostly from the art and minis, but I haven't a clue about them.

>>49204839
They like to punch shit.

Mei punches with fire and robots while Toni punches with wizards

>>49204839
Toni Ironsides builds up adrenaline as she gets hit and depending on how many people she's in combat with, and can spend it for more punching, healing, and stuff like that. She's basically pure fists in combat style.

Mei Feng has tiger claws and a jackhammer kick at her disposal, and has the ability to infinitely combo if you get the right cards and have enough enemies around. However, if you don't get the miracle, she can't just spend a point to do it again. She also has the ability to leap through constructs to get up in your shit - There's a certain level of comedy to turn one, being in the opponent's deployment zone and kicking shit in the face

>>49204918
Toni isn't a beater. She is a control master fluffed as a beater. If you expect her to be all punchan dicks you'll be disappointed.

She takes a hell of a beating though, has the best buff in the game in hand picked men, and is an area denial beast

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>>49204787
>>49204880
>>49204918
>>49205328
Thanks for the advice everyone.

>>49144381
Is Von Lynch + Leviticus Boxes a good place to start or have I dun goofed?

Probably will get a Lazarus next because of his synergy with both.

>>49205902
I think that both of those are good choices. Both have staples for the entire outcasts faction, so you can expand easily. That said Levi is almost a faction unto his own with how large his hiring pool is.

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>>49206443
whats this from?

Hey I'm looking for the new Arcanist cards in RoF, link in OP isn't working for me. Could someone post a new link / pics? Especially interested in Amina, Carlos (and upgrade), and the Shastar Guard.

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>>49206562
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>>49206562
3

>>49206665
>Showgirl
>It's a guy
I imagine that he will thematically fit in with the nightmare Colette.

>>49206519
Fanmade.

>>49206717
The actual fluff justification is that there's more and more young women coming to malifaux these days, and Colette feels like she has to keep up with the times. Cassandra hates him for existing.

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>>49206562
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>>49206717
Yes, fluffwise he was hired by Colette's theater to pull in female audience.

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>>49206562
mmm what was supposed to post? the Sikhs?

>>49205987
Is there any obvious additions I should make to hep both Lynch and Levi. Maybe scheme-runners or something big and scary in close range?

>>49206798
Psst. It's Von Schill. Lynch is someone else.

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>>49206562
Sikh freaks

>>49206813
Fuck, I keep doing that and I have no idea why.

>>49206820
And that's the stats, don't have upgrades so bug someone else.

>>49206841
Cool, thanks

>>49206820
That Chakram looks annoying.

>>49206443
Thanks! An interesting read overall to an unexperienced player.

>>49204834
>not a great painter so didnt fancy proper painting!
iktf.
I've been painting for 10+ years and my work still looks like finger painting on anything smaller then a tank.

I have to bribe my friends to paint my stuff.

>>49188410
All I really care for right now is the gibbering horde models. Fishmen are awesome. As for the game itself, have to see some more about the rules first.

>>49206723
any other masters?

>>49188410
i expect local hype, people will buy stuff and start playing. me and my autism of not wanting to play with unpainted models will finish painting my force just around the time people stop wanting to play the game

>>49207350
Gaslight brits are pretty cool too.

From the pics it looks like they're going to have Big stuff on 50mm+ bases which seems cool.

>>49207607
>any other masters?
Pull My Finger has some stuff.
It's not the greatest but they've got a tactica for pretty much every model through book three iirc.

>>49207699
Yeah, but it's outdated as fuck. Most of the shit there came from a contest that Wyrd put on before book 3 dropped, and hasn't been touched since.

>>49207845
Yeah.
I think the biggest problem isn't that it's outdated, but that every article lets you know how every model is the best thing since sliced bread.

>>49207894
>every article lets you know how every model is the best thing since sliced bread.
THANK YOU. I've been trying to put this into words. To hear the wiki put it, there are no bad models, and if you can't win with Mei Feng and a crew of Wastrels and High River Monks, you're the problem.

>>49207643
They look like they are on the 120mm bases that Warmahordes uses for their stuff.

>>49207937
It's a bit of a problem trying to figure out what really is good when some of the best minions in the game, like nurses as belles, get the same hype as guild guardsmen.

>>49208045
Pretty stoked for it. I don't know that I'll ever play, but more fluff on earthside stuff would be cool.

I tried my first real game today, 50ss, Colette vs Perdita. My coryphee's did well, killing franscisco, and prompt-sacrificed to kill loco. They're fast and blendery, and being swift, they can charge when summoned, loved em. Angelica was good to, won me the game. Cassandra did some good, her smoke and mirrors when surrounded by 5 fellows worked wonders with plant explosives, but retard-charging with her was less successful. The Arcane emissary only looked menacing, but got killed first, and didn't do much. Colettes upgrades where a waste of points, but her now you see me saved the day when she junped up on a roof and hid behind an old day cowboy style storesign. Only colette survived, and I won 6-5. Not bad for a first game.

Lesson for next time; less retard charges.

>>49208648
>Only colette survived, and I won 6-5.
Sounds about right.

>>49208737
Is it typical for a colette game or just for a first game with colette?

>>49208204
Some of the other factions they mentioned sounded interesting, would enjoy seeing more.

>>49209163
No, that's typical. Expect better margins later on though. Colette is very much about being shot up by more aggressive masters, only to end up on top because you happened to have interacted more.

Lads.

What's the opinion on Hamelin?

Is he enjoyable to play (with and against) assuming there is egregious activation control faggotry going on?

Is he awfully difficult to learn to play?

I've got the opportunity to buy his starter and Brotherhood of the Rat half price.
I'm not fantastically excited about him, but it'd be nice to have another crew in another faction, and it would play pretty differently from my Arcanists (who tend to be pretty elite and activation-light).

>>49209236
Hamelin has complete and undisputed control of the bottom of the turn. Top of turn, shit might go wrong, but after activation 6-7, Hamelin's actual crew starts doing shit (and remember, you can hire any outcasts with him) and your opponent has no recourse.

>>49209163
Collette tends to win the game by winning on schemes and strategies, not killing your opponent's crew.

>>49209265
Right.
I'm not really looking particularly at expanding into Outcasts just yet - I'm still pretty new, quite a small, almost strictly Arcanist collection so far.
I do have a Freikorps Trapper though.

I was mostly wondering whether Hamelin with just the contents of the two aforementioned boxes would actually be an interesting and enjoyable alternative crew to Colette?

Or if he'll just lead to unnecessarily long grindy games.

Crew would be:
Hamelin
Nix
Obedient Wretch
3 Stolen
2 Rat Kings
2 Rat Catchers
Holy Shit Twelve God Damned Rats.

>>49209265
Make sure to assemble that magic thing that is normally attached to Hamelin's staff separately, as another rat king.

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>>49209236
What happens with Killjoy in a Hamelin crew Re: Rac-cycling?

I've managed to get another couple of games in with Titania, I love this new quite tanky Neverborn playstyle, that and it's incredibly satisfying to flood to the board with scheme markers.

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>>49189170
>>49189125
Could do with a little more highlighting in places.
Nice feather boa though.

>>49189348
It looks like the unit interactions and turn set-ups will be very different.
Similar but different.

>>49200500
>Same if you go higher.
>Folks with large scale area buffs get better with more to buff, and area attacks get stronger with a more cluttered board
I know it says to play 36"x36", but does Malifaux work on bigger boards?
A lot of the zones and measurements are constructed around the intended size, but is there a reason it can't work bigger?

I know the game loses some of the snappy play and turns into a bit of a grind much past 50ss, but if you're going to do that, could/should you adjust size accordingly?

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>>49202522
>5k by 3k
>3.5MB
>Completely out of focus.
Damn it guys...

Are you the guy with the sort-of source-lighting maximum-contrast black and yellow paint job?

If you can take some not-shit pictures, I wouldn't mind a looka t your crew - I don't think I like it, exaclty, but it is an interesting style.

>>49206751
>The actual fluff justification is that there's more and more young women coming to malifaux these days, and Colette feels like she has to keep up with the times. Cassandra hates him for existing.
That's pretty cool.
I look forward to reading the new fluff when I acquire a copy.

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>>49206966
Annoying, but not much more than that - the looooow damage is hardly exciting, and the repeater trigger (I would expect) is of limited use since it's only 2", and it's still a shooting attack (so no firing into a scrum).

The cheap Focus and range of triggers on the melee look good, but 8ss is pretty fucking steep.
Solid damage output though.

>>49208648
>Colettes upgrades where a waste of points
!?
What did you take?
I don't have my cards handy, but I've always felt that she has two clearly great ones and a couple of mediocre options.
Trapdoors and (to a slightly lesser extent) Trick of the Hat are just bloody great, even in non-marker schemes, for shenanigan-maximisation.

>>49206820
>>49206966
>>49210402
Hold up, there's no pistol/Shooting icon on the Chakram attack.
It is a Sh duel though.
DO you have to randomise into engagements?

>>49210429
no gun icon no randomizing

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>>49210446
Well, that's a bit less flat than it first looked.
Still not terribly exciting, but good for clearing out piles of Hamelin's Rats or prepping some pigs or Gremlins for slaughter.

Does anyone know when the Titania box set is coming out?? Do want

>>49211068
No actual release date yet, none of the new masters are even on the upcoming releases section of their website yet so November at the very earliest.

>>49210598
Nice. Great job on that.

>>49211068
Sorry for my ignorance but i'm lurking since couple of days.

Titania is not released yet? I've seen people painting her already, as well as some post battle excitment comments about her.
Please clarify to a newb.

>>49212353
There was a prerelease sale for GenCon and some people jumped on them.

Speaking of which, thursday is my first Parker game. I am committed to two...mayyyybe three games using at least one of all the models in the box.

Any tips?

>>49209167
Other then Brits and fish people, what other factions did they mention?

>>49209526
He can pop out whenever a rat dies or is sacrificed, which happens a lot. Could make the opponent think I'd every time the squashed a rat there was a chance of Killjoy popping out.

>>49213227
None. There are a bunch of different nations passingly mentioned in the fluff, but until the Kickstarter nothing is confirmed except for Earthside Guild and Neverborn.

>>49213227
Only the Brits and fishes are confirmed, but they make mention of the Cult of the Burning Man and the African nation of Abyssinia.

>>49212401

are rules for his box out? where can i get em?

>>49209526
>>49213320
I have one friend who does this.
Generally she aims for a first turn Killjoy to tear into everyone but a few times he just sat next to the board, every time another rat dies her grin grows just a little wider.

>>49213919
Only in the gen con sale. But the ripples of fate book is seeing release this month I believe. At least according to the release calendar.

Parker/Jack anon from last week, first game with Parker coming today. I'll post up tonight when I get back from the LGS how it goes, probably up against Nellie or McCabe

>>49213821
>Abyssinia
Ah. I remember that.
It got really /pol/ when someone brought it up.
All We wuz Kingz and black people can't have functioning countries.

>>49213469
>Kickstarter
Fuck. I thought I was going to be able to get clean.

How do I into Molly? I've just put my hands on her metal mini.

>>49215459
time to start stockpiling cash

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Got Henchmen Hardcore next week.

I made two lists, which one should I do?

Francois Lacroix cache 6
dirty cheater 1
Burt Jebson 7
Rami Lacroix 7
Slop Hauler 5

or

Old Major Cache 4
Gracie 10
Wild boar 6
Piglet 4

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>>49216785
Definitely the Old Major list.

>>49210190
Was a quickie taken midgame.. will grab a better pic when i'm home!

Quick new player rule question: what does it mean when there is an initial AP cost to some actions and then the action specifies again how many APs are used. f.e.x. Guild Peacekeeper flurry:

TACTICAL ACTIONS
(2) Flurry: This model may discard a card. If it does, this model may make 3 Ml Attack Actions with an AP cost of 1 against a single target.

>>49218736
It means you can use the flurry ability to make 3 attacks instead of 2 so long as they fit the requiements

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My friend is moving overseas and to help fund his venture he's selling pretty much everything he owns.
I now have his Levi, Ramos and Hoff crew boxes, most still in sprues and all unassembled as he never got around to his 40k Ad-Mech robot army idea.

So why not try playing them.

Is it possible to make a 50ss crew with just these three boxes?

>>49218898
Ah, now that I read it again it makes perfect sense. I blame the flu.

>>49216785
Francois is a terrible leader for hardcore. He's free assassinatin points

>>49218921
Several.
Ramos is 50ss on his own. Hoff borrows everything Ramos has. Leve steals everything the others use.

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>>49219122
That's nice to know I'll have a few options available.

>>49216241
Buy the Seamus, Nico, and Transmortis boxes (you only really need Punks from Nico's box, but hey why not pick up another master along the way).

Hire the Belles, summon the Punks and Students, draw cards with Phillip, reposition Molly with Sybelle, and use Crooligans to be annoying little twerps like they were made for. Hire the Valedictorian too if the objectives are killy.

Additional options for expansion include the Rogue Necromancy for another horror beatstick, Drowned and Doxies for additional summons, Yin, Chiaki, or Nurses 'cause they're almost always good, the Carrion Emissary if you're fancy, or Killjoy if even the idea of your opponent possibly having fun deeply offends you.

There's also Spirit Molly, who ought to follow basically the same purchase advice as Kirai, but why would you do that when Punk Zombies are horrors?

>>49219510
Beacause the carrion emissary makes them horrors too

>>49219574
Carrion still doesn't let Spirit Molly summon Punks, and Punk Zombies are easily one of Molly's best summons.

>>49210402
I took trapdoor on Angelica which was great. I took A ladys secret and cabaret coreography on colette, and didn't get much use of them. Shouldv'e taken arcane reservoir and a second pidgeon.

>>49219717
I feel like the go to upgrades on Colette are Cabaret Choreography for summoning Doves, and Shell Game for the extra trigger on prompt and because occasionally an extra 4" on a Dove lets you trapdoor a marker in the right place.

Practiced Production itself usually goes on Cassandra or Angelica (or now Carlos, I guess) to give you a little more flexibility in your activation order.

>>49214354

Won my game, played 50SS against Guild Lucius. Played Reconnoiter, with Assassinate and Vendetta, opponent using Assassinate and Frame for Murder. Lost Vendetta, because I chose Captain Dashel with Mad Dog, who got gunned down real quick by Guild Riflemen, but killed Lucius and got 1 point from Reconnoiter before his hand started drawing a line of 1s and 2s and called it because he couldn't come back from it

Parker is really fun, amazingly versatile with his upgrade cycling too. I'm really liking how he plays cause he feels different to Jack Daw to me as well

>>49219772
I need Parker's crew just for the interaction between all the Drop It! triggers and his Crate of Dynamite upgrade.

Oh, you dropped something? And it was dynamite? How amazingly convenient.

>>49219944
I'm waiting to use that upgrade, haven't used it yet because I've found the others more useful. I feel like he has to always have one of his limited upgrades against any guns, because bulletproof, but all of them have their merits

>>49219965
My dream is to blow up dynamite to draw cards with Highwayman, then discard Highwayman and change plans for a five finger discount into Black Market to also get soulstones for blowing up dynamite.

I guess Stick Up and probably Hail of Bullets are the major work horses though. Free walks and making your own hazardous terrain seem good.

Human Shield seems a little bit more situational, and Coordinated Heist looks amazing on the first turn and possibly with Undead Outlaws, but I imagine it gets dropped eventually for something else.

Also, has any of Parker's crew been scanned? His card, his upgrades, and the Undead Outlaws are in the imgur gallery but I didn't see the rest of his crew box.

>>49219007
With Lenny a slop hauler and dirty cheater, he can be really durable.

>>49220945
So you're spending 15 of your 20 points making your suicide damage machine almost resilient instead of just hiring him for seven points and letting him do his job?

There are better ways to do things that don't involve handicapping yourself to be contrary

>>49221077
I tend to think of Lenny and slop haulers as an auto include in most gremlin lists. Guaranteed dumb luck and heals is amazing.

Even with just a slop hauler Francois is amazing. He can burn wounds and heal back up unless they commit to melee, which he can squeal away from if it looks too tough.

>>49221243
Except in henchman hardcore you burn through a couple wounds and die. He's the secondary win condition. I don't care that the bads you play with do t know how to deal with him, I'm not going to recommend to anyone having him lead a henchman hardcore team.

You're giving bad advice. Stop.

>>49221243
At def 4 and at best 8 wounds anything with half a damage flip can kill him. If you get the first attack, reckless, and dumb luck once he's down to seven.

You're pairing him with willpower 1 Lenny and a five wound five point model. This leaves about five points left for your last model, and you've got nothing to help force engagement on your own terms, which is the only way Francois has a chance of surviving retaliation.