So, the armor's original designs were made in the Dark Age

>>49091890
Not really sure on that, but I believe dark age wasn't really that cheerful and peaceful either. Humanity was still fighting with many alien races, so good arms and armours were needed, it just that everyone was more or less reasonable instead of 40k grimderp.

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>>49091890
Does this look remotely close to "peaceful" anon?

>>49091890
The original armor's design was to operate in active plasma reactors, not outright warfare.

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>>49091890
Terminator armor was a new creation, from the middle of the great crusade.

The ornamentation might not necessarily have a whole lot to do with the original design. They probably just stick a bunch of skulls and spikes on that stuff when they're done
Also I don't think it was necessarily all that peaceful.
>>49092014
That doesn't look like the Dark Age. Well by some definition it kind of does, but not the one the OP is referring to

>>49092014
Does that look remotely like "The Dark age" to you anon?

Terminator armour was a really M31+ creation. The base design is DAoT but it was a hardcore HEV suit designed for working inside active reactors and high impact void EVA.

It was repurposed into Tactical Dreadnought Armour as a stopgap for boarding actions and evolved from there.

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>>49092014
>'Dark age'
>pic has riptides
Christ you are thick

>>49092072
Uh, yes? All Imperial Knights were made during the Dark Age of Technology.

>>49092072
>>49092069
Anon may be referring to the imperial knights, not the setting of the illustration.

>>49092133
They may have been made in them, but that one certainly isn't fighting in the Dark Age of Technology.

>>49091890
Power armor wasn't made until the great crusade. Terminator armor is a glorified hazmat suit with more armor strapped on it.
>the Irom Men raped them
They didn't, psykers and demons all over the place did. Most AIs were pretty chill, except some of the military grade shit going full terminator mode.

>>49091890
The Dark Ages were horrifying anon. The Iron Men and the robots were horrifying machines of war.

>>49092072
>>49092123
>>49092149
Jesus Barnaby Christ, the lack of reading comprehension here is staggering.

Why does it have to be in the actual DAoT?

He's clearly referencing another piece of DAoT machinery that is horrifying looking.

>>49092152
Actually, no.

Pretty much every Man of Iron went full rebellion and turned on the humans because either a) chaos or b) they realised they were doing everything for humans.

>>49091890
I don't get why, in the 40K-verse, the "Dark Age" is the time when humanity was at its technological and logistical peak. That wasn't the case in the real world's Dark Ages (such as they were), so why is that the case in 40K?

>>49092014
What happens when the knight falls over?

>>49092165
>posts a picture of the 41st millennium
>Asks if the dark ages look horrifying to you
>uh, actually nah, it was meant to show the imperial knight guise!
Yeah, nah, that was you being retarted, stop backtracking and trying to save face

And if that really was your intention, make it clear so you don't get pissy when people call you out for being a retard.

>>49092171
Because most of the technology and stuff in general from that age has been lost to 40k men. It's not dark because it was shitty, it's dark because it's basically a lost period of history.

>>49092180
>>49092123
>MFW people are actually this fucking stupid and autistic
If you knew a damned thing about Knight lore you wouldn't look so fucking stupid anon

>>49092269
Didn't you know? Any remote mention or depiction of Tau will incite full autism, and trigger full sperg mode.

>>49092195
Ah, fair enough.

>>49091890

> I though dark age man were all peaceful cucks and thats why the Iron Men raped them so hard.

> peaceful cucks.

You realize there's a page in the rulebook that talks about how DAoT routinely exterminated sapient aliens to take their land like some HFY fantasy? Rise and Fall of Alpha Salish, or however it's spelt.

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>>49092014

Better example. Actual Dark Age combat automata. Very peaceable looking.

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>>49092269
Wow, nice back tracking you fucking tard brain

>>49092410
>MFW this is another anon calling you out on your shit but lack the intelligence to figure that out

Please show me on the model where the Tau touched you

>>49092133
Weren't imperial knights originally large utility vehicles for new colony worlds in the fluff?

>>49092503

Yes, the Imperium's vehicles tend to be dual-role or non-combat focused machines from the Dark Age; the land raider was originally for survey teams (the original pattern discovered by the Imperium is the Proteus, which has enhanced sensors and no assault ramp) while the RH1N0 Rhino-precursor was a hostile terrain (deathworld) transport for colonists, not a serious-business combat machine.

Knights were for killing megafauna in the early DAoT 'Long March' colony expeditions, and the models are designed with the notion that their arms could be swapped out for tools to help erect buildings, dig ditches, etc. to protect colonists.

>>49092503
Yes and no, they had utility in mind (that's why they have their Reaper Chainsword) but they are certainly designed for defense as well (all the rest of their arsenal). I might just not be seeing it yet but I can't believe there was anything other than combat in mind when the Knight-Lancer was designed, forgetting the fact that the throne mechanicum reinforces the ideal of protecting their subjects with their lives

>>49091890
I always thought the dark age stuff was just a general guide line on how to build things, how exactly you decide to shape stuff like chest pieces or helmets, or what bits and pieces you decide to strap on them is up to the manufacturers to decide

there is like at least 3 different looks of terminator armor but they are all based on the same tech and ideas, just a question of some finer details

>>49092410
Really? I understood he was talking about Knights being from DAoT and I'm actually an aspie.

>>49092371
They got their shit stomped in by PDF.
>>49092539
Any other examples of utility vehicles turned into military hardware, other than the Leman Russ, a tractor turned into a tank by adding a turret and weapons?

>>49092123

Knight titans are lumberjack/mining machines from the DaoT. Next time know what the subject matter is before posting something so fucking stupid.

>>49092171
>>49092195
Even today we refer to the Dark Ages of our history because eearlier historians knew very little about that time, not because it was shitty.

>>49091890
>peaceful cucks

I want /pol/ to leave.

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>>49092868
You realize you're literally getting triggered over a word, right?

>>49092613
REEEEEEE I HATE THIS MEME THE CENTAUR WAS A TRACTOR NOT THE LEMAN RUSS.

And the baneblade was a scout or light tank if I recall

>>49093683
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49093291
And using the word cuck has become unavoidably childish.

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>>49092613
The fuck are you talking about, the only conflict mentioning them was with Ibram gaunt and Tanith's first. And the robot facilities weren't even up to full production yet.

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>>49094144
>Those last panels
I've seen enough mechanicus dataslates to know where this is going.

>>49091890
It's heavily implied that mankind was a bunch of warmongering assholes during the DAoT. This is why they built the Iron Men in the first place, and why so many aliens were quick to attack them when their psyker problem started fucking them over.

Humans are just naturally shitheads in 40K.

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>>49093745

and the Rhino was a tractor

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>>49094492

AND THATS THE WAY WE LIKE IT

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Personally, I always imagined the Dark Age of Technology was like a grimdark version of Star Wars. Mostly because the robot in the bottom left corner of >>49094144 looks vaguely like the medical droid from the Empire Strikes Back.

But anyway, Terminator armor was actually developed during the Great Crusade. Power armor was developed from techno-barbarians, and had long been used in warfare, which is likely part of why the Emperor chose to equip the Space Marines with such suits - they had more or less been field tested for thousands of years on Terra. If they ever had a peaceful purpose, it had long been forgotten, and the brief period of actual technological development during the Great Crusade made the more original armors all but forgotten.

>>49094492
>in 40K.

>>49092613

Arbites, not PDF. See the picture posted by:
>>49094144

>>49093626

There's a very nice excavator conversion of a Russ in GW HQ, though, I like the idea of the Russ as an excavator.

It's not a tractor though.

I thought that Dark Age stuff was all modern looking and sleek instead of being Grimderp. Basically a classic version of how we envision future humans.

>>49096397
Maybe until the Rebellion. After that it was servitor time.

>>49096397
Well, according to Sentinels of Terra the Dark Age of Technology had warlords with huge spaceships the size of Phalanx.

Clearly there was some warring going on. Also the Leman Russ was a battle tank in the DAoT, but there is fluff of a Necron being impressed with the advanced systems the Imperials are wasting through lack of understanding. I imagine they were often armed with some esoteric energy weapon like the 30k ones can be, AI-aided, grav vehicles maybe, some form of shielding I imagine. It's interesting.

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>>49097084
>>49096872
I didn't mean to imply the technology wasn't horrifying, I meant that it was all sleek looking.

>>49097084
>Imperial Guard literally building tanks with components they don't even know how to use

This is what I mean by Grimderp. This is fucking stupid.

>>49092133

It was my understanding that only MOST Imperial Knights were made during the DAoT, and that some Forge Worlds still produced the rare Imperial Knight.

>>49092539
>megafauna
Knights vs dinosaurs when

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>>49094506
CAN I GET A "PRAISE THE EMPERAH?!!!?!??!"

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>>49099559
"DUDE, THIS TANK MADE OF STEEL BLOW UP WITH A FRAG MINE, THIS OTHER ONE MADE WITH FANTASYMATERIAL DIDNT, WHAT SHOULD WE DO?"

>>49099559
>>Imperial Guard literally building tanks with components they don't even know how to use
>This is what I mean by Grimderp. This is fucking stupid.

Putting the component on the tank is one thing. This can often be done in many cases.

Maintaining that component throughout the lifetime of a vehicle, however, is an entirely different story. The capabilities of the tech-priests and crew who operate the vehicle may not be up to par with what the component needs to function in a high-intensity and demanding environment with little supplies.

What a Forge World can put on a vehicle and what a Tech-Priest or vehicle crewman can repair and operate on are RADICALLY different things.

Grav-plates are a good example. They can actually be produced by many different Forge Worlds - the only problem is:

A. They are difficult to miniaturize. Larger vehicles are typically relatively easy to manufacture, but things like suspensor-webs are significantly more difficult to make.

B. Grav-tech is finicky and relatively fragile compared to traditional wheels and treads.They are also significantly more affected by weather and environmental factors that traditional methods of locomotion, meaning they often can't operate in many environments that normal vehicles could.

>>49094053
''Faggot'' is childish too, but I don't see you crusading against our abuse of that, faggot.

>>49102128
Faggot has almost become a term of endearment in some cases, like how you can call someone a drawfag or a writefag.

Cuck is a term lifted straight out of Shakespeare, and barely recognized outside of bad internet jokes and that. It just sounds out of place.

>>49092014
I wish someone could explain to me why that is only considered a 'heavy stubber' when it is literally 5-8x the size of an autocannon...

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Do we know that the armor based on the STCs is exactly the same as the originals? Couldn't the 41st millennium version of this technology just be simplified versions of it?

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>>49104227

ah shit, wrong pic

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>>49100990
> "I DON'T KNOW! BETTER SEND MORE MAN!"

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>>49092165
>>49092180
>>49092269
Why are you guys so fucking sensitive?

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>>49100946
PRAISE THE EMPERAH!

>>49096397
God no, the Dark Age of Technology is where shit like the Hive Worlds, Navigators, Gellar Fields and so on comes from. The DAoT was weird and the major thing that set it apart from the grimdark 41st millenium was that they weren't running on malnourished slave labor.

>>49108464

>making combat landings on fucking tyranids

Balls of pure fucking adamantium.

>>49092171
I think it's because not enough light of the emporer is the in between the lines meaning

>>49101901
Gravity affected by weather???

>>49109428
The device itself.

>>49109428
Just wow. That's like grade 3 level reading comprehension. Astounding.

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>>49111717
>anon thinks a grade 3 level of reading comprehension is astounding

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>>49111917
>this anon does not have even a grade 3 level of reading comprehension necessary for recognizing sarcasm

>>49091890
Terminator armour is based on plasma reactor maintainance suits from pre-Old Night humanity. It turned into heavy assault armour during the Great Crusade.

Horrifying is relative.

Iron Men fucked them because it was unexpected, not because humans weren't powerful enough to stop them.

>>49108464
>>49109223
>Nids running away from them
Don't mess with Tempestus.

>>49099559
It's not that they just have no idea how it works because they're dim, it's that the STC construction machines are limited, and so dismantling and reverse-engineering of them has to be restricted, as if something goes wrong during the reverse-engineering process you end up with a useless pile of scrap and fewer leman russes. Nevermind the fact that there isn't much incentive to figure out how they work anyway, as innovation is prohibited by the cult mechanicus, as nobody wants a repeat of the men of iron. The AdMech don't know that their leman russ technology is crazy good tech because they've never investigated it, because it could lead to some very bad things happening.
TLDR: Preservation of existing tech>innovation of new tech

>>49100299
Literally any fight between Knights and Tyranids

>>49108464
I really dislike the look of the skions.

>>49113908
Yeah, i prefer the Stormstooper look. Gritty, basic and very, very mean.

>>49092171
It's like humanity recorded everything on Blu-ray but then the Age of Strife fucked everything up so much they had to go back to using vhs and eventually forgot Blu-ray was ever a thing.

I like to imagine a lot of the information from the Dark Ages still exists but no one knows how to read it or even that it can be read. Archives full of the secrets of the universe ignored or labeled "ancient relics, purpose unknown. Possible ceremonial use"

>>49092195
No because it was secular technology and it went to dark places like excessive use of warp tech and ai that went sky net - check out the short story myriad about an ai made from inter dimensional cogs its plan was take over Mars take over solar system take over Galaxy take over universe in that order
But it could purge a cyborg of scrapcode and mutations