>GW sneaking this shit out on us >£40 for a full game

>>49018628

>£40 for 10 space marines and 10 Tau Fire Warriors

Isn't that cheaper than buying them seperately?

>>49018931
It is. The question is if they come with gear options or are monopose.

GW are really pushing death watch now

They that pissed FFG beat them in that department

>>49018948
It's just the ordinary sprues. So they do come with options and are poseable. Like the majority of these things.

>>49018961
Kirby whored the brand left and right.
No surprise Roundtree is now trying to consolidate the monopoly back together.

>>49018985
Good, good.

Necromunda when?

>>49018628
>Militarum Tempestus box costs the same as the Start Collecting Box
>Start Collecting Box has two units instead of 1, the same vehicle and a commisar

They didn't think this one through all that well.

>>49018961
it's raven guard...

>>49019284
Thats not a box, usually if its a box you can see a picture of the packaging. Which gives you a discount. If you only see pictures of models together its a one-click bundle, which saves you nuffin, except time.

The Getting Started deals are sometimes so good they should simply take the individual things out of the sortiment.

>>49019300
Wait


I thought death watch operate in kill teams

>>49019318
kill team has been the name for a 40k game with only a handful of minis for a long time.

Only until today it was hidden in whitedwarfs or some ebook nobody would find without looking for. Now it is prominent.

>>49019001
YFW when the remake Necromunda but it costs £100...

>>49019350
If the starter gangs are Redemptionists vs Escher I'd buy it.

>>49019350

Oh god I hope they don't do that with Titancus. Necromunda with Titans scratches an itch I didn't know I had until now.

>>49018628

The question is: will this be played, or is it DOA? Back in late 90ties I was playing some 40k, but I gave up when they started to push bigger and bigger armies.

>>49019430
The box will sell because it's a budget deal on the miniatures for people who already play 40k.
As for the game system, it's GW cautiously testing waters for hypothetical "Age of Emperor" (giving 40k similar rule overhaul / simplification that was done for Warhammer Fantasy -> Age of Sigmar). I think no, the Kill Team will not be played as a stand alone game.

>>49019483
Wouldn't an "Age of Emperor" overhaul be more akin to the old Rogue Trader game?

>>49019506
From what I've seen of old Rogue Trader (aka 40k 1st edition) it was incredible clusterfuck of a rules (by today's standards).
I imagine that "Age of Emperor" would be more towards shrinking core rules to 10 pages or less and overall simplification of the game.

>>49019483
Kill Team is a thing that has existed for like, a decade+.

A new Kill Team release is not a sign of The End Times.

>>49019506
Rogue trader had fucking gamemaster, it was rpg and not mess with plastic toys.

>>49019578
Damn, sorry, I was thinking Deathwatch: Overkill.

>>49019315
The other one click bundles have models that are outside of their relevant Start Collecting boxes though, this one doesn't.

>>49019584
We practically never played it with GM. And we had a fair chunk of plastic, but since metal minis were cheaper back then, we also had plenty of meddle. Enough of both to clog the battlefield.

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So are they updating the Kill Team rules or just re releasing them?

>>49019584
rogue trader wasn't that bad

inquisitor absolutely required a GM, and was basically just a tabletop RPG

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$110 dollarydoos. Interesting pack. I like Skirmish-level games. Shame no one will play this as its own thing. Will have to wait for Necromunda.

>>49019941
>£40
>£1 = $1.74 in AUD
>£40 = $69.75 in AUD
>They still charge $110 AUD
Cheeky buggers.

>>49019950
Something something shipping costs. Also they know Australians are easily ripped off because of the shipping costs being an actual thing they can point to.

>>49019941
What's the average Aussie wage?

>>49019994

Which is absolute shit, but businessmen gonna business

They charge it because they can get away with it

>>49020007
Rather than giving you the average Australian wage, and then talking about the cost-of-living, and comparing it to the British wage and contrasting that with the British cost of living, I'll just say this:

Your Ausfriend across the sea is only 11c better off than you per dollar. As such, this thing should only cost $65.60 in Australian currency adjusted for cost of living and average wage. Giving GW some leniency for shipping, the markup is still about $35 too much.

>>49018628
>Almost makes up for Grombindal
whats happening with Grombrindal?

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>>49020610
Dont ask

>>49020667
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!

>>49020667
this has to be a joke

>>49020667
That's really lazy.

>>49020068
I vaguely remember reading that there's some super retarded EU law or something that's at least partially responsible for GW's ridiculous Australian pricing.

>>49020667

meh, fuck the white, mines going to be full Gotrek

supposed the first *4* issues of the new format will have gifts. doubt it'll be more minis though.

>>49021081
So you are going to paint it in its original colours then?

Just so you know, they aren't giving this one away. They are selling it. They are selling an old model with different packaging as a limited edition White Dwarf model.

>>49021108

really? lol. I knew about it being an existing model so wasnt bothered because its free on a magazine.
but yeah, also sticking it in a new box and selling it as something else is .. err.. odd.

>>49021150
Same price though, at least they didn't charge for changing a cardboard piece and base.

>>49021179

hang on i might be a complete spaz. I thought the new white dwarf *model* was going to be free with the magazine.
looking at the front cover image it says 'free gift - citadel slaughterpreist'
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1063

hurr durr.

>>49021212
Yeah no. The dwarf has RULES in the new mag for both silver tower and AoS. The priest is the actual mini that comes with it.

Wow 23 models for $109.99!?

>DID YOU SAY 23 MODELS FOR $110?!
WOW THEY LOOK LIKE REALLY UNIQUE MODELS THAT CAN BE USED IN SKIRMISH GAMES!

>>49021273
are you retarded?
Its 110 AUSTRALIAN dollars, which is worth shit.
Game sells for 50 Euro in the eurozone, so its going to be around 60 bucks in the end.

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>>49021357
Boy I sure do love Unique looking xenos models I can use for a skirmish game. If only there was a board game full of imperial assassins or dishonored supermen in tights I could purchase. I suppose there aren't any. Back to cutting up 5 stealth suits, 2 crisis suits to make my Tau commander from soul storm :^)

>>49019483
>it's a budget deal on the miniatures for people who already play 40k
Only for those who specifically want spess mehreens and fire warriors, which I'd think is a relatively small number of people.

>>49020667

is this real

>>49021503
>which I'd think is a relatively small number of people
Roughly half the armies in existence is some variety of spes muhreens and Tau are tie1 for competitive play (mostly the heavy suits, but you need some chaff too)

It looks like BL is in fact updating my existing copy of Kill Team for me on the 3rd. Remember that's the stroke of zero bongs. If they fail to fix the obnoxious parts of old kill team, or if it is as hard to open as the 30k stuff, I am uploading it here for everyone. When BL provides digital products that are both good and easy to open I will cease doing this.

I am an aussie, i earn $22 an hour, average is about $18. I pay $1100 in rent a month for a studio apartment. Average cost of groceries month is $250.
Mini's are pretty damn expensive here, but then so is everything. Shit like alcohol and electronics are double the price of other countries for no discernable reason other than "shipping"

>>49021857
Even purely digital services are a rip off for us, shit's fucked.

>>49021910
Yea for whatever fucked up reason. So bullshit

>>49018628
Based new CEO strikes again.

And yet some shitposters will still say that he's the same as Kirby.

>>49018628
I'd be more excited about this if Inquisition and Sisters were allowed for Killteams

>>49021357
You can simply order it in GB for less than 40€ with 5€ shipping

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/warhammer-40000-essentials/33932-warhammer-40000-kill-team

You'd be stupid to buy it directly in an EU-country for 50€ instead of taking advantage of the low pound course.

>>49019916
>inquisitor absolutely required a GM, and was basically just a tabletop RPG
Eeeeehhh...
Ish.
I've played it many a time with no GM, it just requires reasonable players there for narrative rather than winning.
But if you want some WHAT A TWEEST scenarios in there, obviously it does need a GM.
And everyone wants a tweest.

>>49022507
Stop posting this in every thread you faggot. Go shove some rad grenades up your dainty arse.

>>49020667
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS THAT?
Because it sure as fuck ain't Grombrindal.

>>49021081
I want to hear more about that though...

>>49021108
>They are selling an old model with different packaging as a limited edition White Dwarf model.
You are fucking kidding me...
GW have gone far beyond the realm of self-parody at this point.

>>49022731
>WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS THAT?
generic Slayer Lord (whatever they are called now)

>>49021212
I can't quite make it out, what's the US price on that?

>>49021857
Australians still have the best bantz and nobody can take that away from you.

>>49021857
>>49021910
Why don't you make your own miniatures game? Are there no decent Australian miniatures companies?

>>49022784
Eureka Miniatures is awesome and there is also Victoria who makes non-imperial-guard

>>49022813
Why don't one of them make a game? It seems like they could get a big chunk of the Australian market based purely on the selling point of "not sutpid fucking expensive"

>>49022864
I don't know, i'm not only from australia.

>>49022864
Well how big is wargaming there in the first place?

>>49022864
Oh shit, I want to use Vic's rail cannon in a game! (A real WW1/2-esque naval-gun-size train cannon, not sci-fi railgun)

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>>49023492
Pic btw

>>49023549
How cool would it be if there was a game where those Victoria miniature WW1 looking dudes fought, I dunno, an army made up of some Australian monsters. Immigrants, I guess

>>49018961
Kill Team is a game mode, you twat.

The best game mode. 40K for 60 euros, no warlords, no LoWs, no formations, no fliers, none of that bullshit!

>>49024097
Are they gonna release a separate rule book?

>>49019430
Why not? People play Heralds of Ruin Kill Team, so why not play the "official" version?

IT'S 40GAY FOR 60 EUROS/BUX.

200pts of Elites/Troops/Fast attack. Used to be 0-1, 0-2, 0-1, but the Ork KT is 2 elite choices...

New codex comes out, full of BS characters and formations? Lol, don't care, I play kill team.

Formations getting you down? Kill Team.

Tau supersuits everywhere? Kill Team.

Formations/detachments? Kill Team.

Strength D? You break Eldar player's legs, then Kill Team.

Haven't been that excited about GW releases in ages, and that's because the latest Herald of Ruin update was done by the players, not Blessed Tom Meer, and because I have some faggy friends who wouldn't play "unofficial" rules.

This is the first 40k release to interest me in a while, the Fire Warriors and basic marines are both cool models and Kill Team was always the best mode.

I always thought it would be cool to have two kill teams with the same objective on a map with NPC tyranids/orcs/rebels. Anybody remember that WD article with stats for boss enemies in Kill Team?

>>49024309
...4th edition rulebook?

>>49024193
Wraithguard don't have 3 wounds or a 2+ save, D is still there.

>>49024193
The idea of Kill Team is that it's a game that can be played with just a box of troops as your army, right? Does it expand a little? I'm a fan of the smaller 40k robots, so could I add Stealth suits and Centurions to the teams in the Kill Team box?

>>49024353
>Centurions

I hate you. The HoR one allows you to have a team of three as your Kill Team. Not likely to have enough points in the GW version for it.

>>49024346
hence the leg breaking
>>49024353
"just a box" might not work with all armies (IG, for example), but yes.

I think it might be my excuse to get the metal guard ranges (Steehl Legion, Vostroyans, maybe even Mordians) or go FW. Two boxes and I'm done!

>>49022578
Only if you're buying 2nd hand from a private seller, GW has a condition on their supply that you can't ship to a different region. It's even in the fineprint on the page you linked. More cancerous than even video games.

Not that I will ever buy GW when chinaman exists.

>>49019941
>wait for scans
>buy used minis

That would cost 40 dollars, tops. 110 is fucking robbery.

I actually have enough marines and tau to fill that list already so for me it's free

>>49024873
Which chinaman is best?

So when are we actually going to see the rules?

Wouldve been nice if they gave some terrain as well given that Kill Team requires a lot of it to be tactically satisfying .

>>49025142
Miranda. Easiest to find, too. Free shipping on everything and great quality.

Just don't get things that are too fragile or spiky.

>>49024873
>what is free movement of goods in EU

>>49025749
>UK
>EU
you don't watch news very often

>>49025778
You don't read the news beyond the headline, do you?

>>49025778
You realize that process will take a year or two to get completed?

>>49026149
A year or two to be completed? It'll be a year before it even gets started.

>>49018961

Doesn't FFG still have the rights to make the 40k RPGs? Why would GW want to kill one of their most consistent outside sources of income?

>>49024138
It already exists.

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Is this like the legit awesome old school Kill Team with XP, alarms, stealth missions with the "OH SHIT THEY SAW US, GO LOUD", individual models, guards and shit or just the
>"HAY GUZY, ERRYBUDY BRING ONE ELITE AND DEN U FITE EM!1 lol XD"

>>49026726
the latter

>>49026532
Literally all of FFG's 40k books are currently out of print and have been for months.

>>49026800
Fucking. Retarded.

>>49026532
Why get royalties when you can have all the monies?

>>49018628
If by some MIRACLE the rules turn out to be better than the currently available from fan creators people will just download the PDF or buy the rules from someone that bought it only for the minis and is selling the book.

>>49027065

Because GW has no knowledge in making video games or writing RPGs?

>>49027153
Neither does Bethesda and it doesn't stop them.

>>49018931

And you get a mini version of the full 40k rulebook plus additional kill team rules. It's a good deal if you need the models.

>>49022578
I knpw Eu based sellers that sells it for 30% discount with zero to almost none shipping.
but that was not the pojnt of my post, it was just a reply to that guy who tought the game cost was 110 USD and not Ausd.
>>49022689
I miss inquisitor.
miniatures still makes me hard, and the game was a blend of rpg and classic tabletop. My memory of the rules is a bit foggy tho, i mostly remember how the Latex Sisters gave me an incredible boner. are the miniatures still around for a reasonable price? how about the rulebook?>>49024193
>Haven't been that excited about GW releases in ages, and that's because the latest Herald of Ruin update was done by the players, not Blessed Tom Meer, and because I have some faggy friends who wouldn't play "unofficial" rules.
I know that feeling, and I REALLY hope the rules are good.
I almost bought "old" kill team rules(how many years agoi was that? 5?)and oh boy, how much shitty they are.
basically it was a "play everything, 250 points, no vehicles 12 armour or more", which was too generic and prone to be breaked by waac(or even by accident)to be decent.
this one is so cheap(I mean, the fucking 40k rulebook alone was around 30 bucks alone)I might get it, just to convert some Taus to Nurgle and maybe to play 40k again.
i miss playing 40k but by the state it is now its absoluetely unplayable and I cant find any joy playing it(hint: I play non-flying tyranids).>>49024193
>You break Eldar player's legs, then Kill Team.
this made me chuckle.
>>49027030
>>49026800
>>49026726
We still don't know.
I hope so at least.
>>49027079
HoR is really good on concept(limited codices, constantly updated)but so poor in execution.
i still manage to have fun with it but it can be broken almost as easily as the main game.
Special gear is fun tho.

>>49019365
last word frpm FW was that titanics wasn't going to get a box. just rulebook and single minis.
Probably still pricey, meant too be 8mm scale with a warlord 6 inches tall.

>>49027153
Yeah, because so far they've sold their products purely on their quality.

Also, daily reminder that the Dark Heresy was originally made by Black Industries, part of GW.

HA

Fucking ravenwing will almost be fully playable in Kill Team, I'll probably get 2+ re rolling jinks on all my bikes with a darkshroud. Harlequins and Eldar are also looking cheesy as fuck.

>>49019889
^My question also

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>>49018628

Could be cool

Honestly though like other people have the said the main thing it has to do is make people interested in wanting to play this all the time and not just having it be a once in a blue moon affair or something you play because someone has only just started playing.

Hopefully the General's Handbook for AoS is a sign that Kill Team rules or rules for much smaller games will be in the 8th Edition 40k rulebook.

>>49022765

WD is $9

That Slaughterpriest goes for $30

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>>49030748
Kroot Hounds aren't a unit choice.
>durrr Kroot Hounds must be--
You don't fucking understand, we already have preview images that state part of the army construction. You buy squads like in normal 40K and then split them into one-man units. Also note the use of the phrase "Pathfinder Team" in the same column. EVERY OTHER CHOICE in this list is by squad except kroot hounds. Common sense dictates that the designers would not make you choose between AN ENTIRE FUCKING SQUAD of pathfinders or drones, or a single kroot hound bought as part of another squad to fill your Fast Attack slot(s). I haven't even gotten to the fact that Deathwatch Vanguard Vets are an Elites choice.

>>49020886
I guess there must be equivalent laws across asia, america and whatever moon colonies they're apparently shipping it all from. I like to think of it as a tax to cover injuries and damage from the sharks, crocs and other sea monsters that guard our great southern land.

But hey maybe after Brexit we can get some favourable commonwealth prices going huh? Of course not, they'll raise the prices if anything

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>>49027207

>>49020667
I don't know what this signifies, who is he and why has he rustled so many jimmies? Is it just the model?

>>49018628
The GW boxes and games are pretty amazing. Execution Force comes with all four assassins, a customizable Chaos Sorcerer, three Chaos Marines, and a bitch load of Cultists, for the same price it would cost to buy like three of the Assassins on their own.

Dark Vengeance is the come all, be all of starter sets if you wanna play Chaos. Just paint the Dark Angels bits up as Chaos, and suddenly you have a VERY respectable Chaos army, a full rulebook, the three basic templates, scatter die, and a few dice to start with.

>>49032432
An important Dwarf to the lore getting a model which is an already existing model just painted and packaged differently as opposed to getting its own unique model.

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>>49032432
Grombrindal is THE White Dwarf and has always been an excuse for GW to produce fun little special models. This is a big slap in the face for the character itself and the tradition of releasing white dwarf minis.

>>49019889
>>49030107

Update

If you already own them you get the update for free.

>>49028646

I recall them saying that Titanicus wouldn't have any models, but it'd have the rules and terrain.

>>49022731
>WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS THAT?
>Because it sure as fuck ain't Grombrindal.
AoS man, not even once.

>>49027207
oooh, snap
>>49027079
why... would you... buy it for vanilla tacs and firewarriors? It's literally the only GW box to buy for rules (well, maybe that and Lost Patrol if you like to measure for anal circumference)

>>49026726
I hope I can rope my friend into playing it. I mean, I can still use grunt lists like in vanilla, the game hasn't been that unballanced since 4th ed... right?

Oh, who cares, I know it's going to be my Marines against his guard, since we have nothing else.

>>49036535
Huh, I played a kill team game event at my GW last year with that same break test rules, nice.

>>49020667

Seems to me someone at the office forgot they had a job to do. Fucking up, and doing a emergency course of action. Ether that, or they still think the majority of "players" (which, by their own admission is the smaller part of customers supporting them) are only kids of 10-14 years of age and don't know better.

GW needs to learn that there comes a price tag of being the top-dogs of this market. They need to learn that people expect better of them, than from any other brand out there, when they claim they make the markets best models. And they fucking need to learn that this model is "endtimes-new", and not really even that old, but its not Grombrindal, how much they twist and turn it.

>>49036525
Y'know warp talons would actually be pretty awesome in kill team games.

>>49036980
Boyz are surprisingly good in KT too, if the enemy doesn't castle up that is.

>>49021857
Mate how the fuck are you only spending $250 on groceries? Legit question; I spend almost twice that

>>49037072
Dude probably has some self control, fatty.

>>49036535
>units can never be part of a squad

dammit this is the only thing I dislike. Squishy armies like IG really need the ablative wounds to keep special weapons alive. Even just 5 man fire teams would help

>>49037072
I live in Germany, cook daily and work out, so I eat quite a lot and I'm fine with about 50 to 60 per month, used to be less but as I got better at cooking and started working out it increased

Vegetables are cheap, a kilo of minced meat is about 5 euros, how the fuck do you manage to spend so much?

>>49037350
Euros that is, used to be 40

Don't you have Aldi or Lidl or another cheap but good market like that?

>>49037350
Probably eat outside and only buys processed food. Ingredients are relatively cheap and cooking is fun.

>>49022784
Same problem of Australian vidya developers, there's just no industry.

>>49037350
Britbong here. 60 Euros a month would be about 2 a day, which seems pretty damn cheap if you're eating properly. Even when I was a cheap-ass student I don't think I got my costs down quite that far, although it was close.

>>49037387
>cooking is fun.
why would you lie like that
>>49036720
Mothafucking break tests/bottling rules. Man, I love those, they save game from becoming acade-y grindfests,

>>49024193
>You break Eldar player's legs
Really, this is the key to a healthy metagame.

>>49037412
2,50 for 500g of minced meat, you only need half of that to cook pretty much anything
So 1,25, add vegetables, spaghetti and ground tomatoes and you're at around 2,50 or so, maybe 3 and you can easily eat from that for 2 days, maybe 3

>>49037447
Seriously it's fun and eating healthy and good feels nice as well
Plus, britches dig it

I think I'd rather just play 4th ed Kill-Team .

Anyone have a PDF up of the new rules yet?

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>>49037501

Whats amusing is /ck/ is one of the worst boards to go to for a rational discussion on cooking. Hell the other week or so /g/ had a rather educational thread about cast iron pans until a mod declared NO FUN ALLOWED and moved the thread to /ck/ where it promptly died.

One day I will make /tg/'s meatbread though (possibly to go along with unholy amounts of rum or vodka).

>>49037501
>eating healthy and good feels nice as well
I'm not saying that eating healthy and good is bad (though I'm of the opinion that anything that tastes good isn't healthy), I just hate cooking. My britch is cooking dinner right now!

>>49037515
Same, but my friend is bitching, and I'm too shy to push it on some other people in my FLGS

>>49037533
waiting for that, too. Someone must have got them from Black Library by now!

>>49037543
I've never been to ck but considering every other board that sounds reasonable

>>49037663
>(though I'm of the opinion that anything that tastes good isn't healthy),
>I just hate cooking
These two are connected

>My britch is cooking dinner right now!
>not freeding your britches
dris is why you're frat anron

Can anyone confirm if the new rules are worth using or are GW asking us to pay for something that is less complete than HoR?

>>49037693
I think the rules aren't out until next month. Unless they released the new rules ahead of the box set.

>>49037501
>and you're at around 2,50 or so, maybe 3 and you can easily eat from that for 2 days, maybe 3
Seems optimistic to stretch 250g of meat over three meals, and it would seem to leave you about 0.75 for breakfast and lunch.

I don't know, I'm probably just spoiled. My wife's an excellent cook and likes to do interesting stuff, so there's no way I'm going to say 'let's cut back'. She might make me cook

>>49037780
Vegetables and porridge.

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>>49036535
>Doctrina Imperatives special rule is not used in Kill team missions

then why the fuck should i play skitarii then?

>>49021857
>I am an aussie, i earn $22 an hour, average is about $18. I pay $1100 in rent a month for a studio apartment. Average cost of groceries month is $250.
How does that even work ?

>>49037810
It's not like their troops aren't extremely good even without them.

>>49037912
Well at 56 hours a week, he gets $1232 a week.

Obviously he might have less hours per week, but it's still multiplied by four for a month, so logically he's got enough for that and amenities.

>>49021857
>Shit like alcohol and electronics are double the price of other countries for no discernable reason other than "shipping"
Well in the case of alcohol it's excise. The excise tax on grog is unbelievable.

>>49038007

This is why you brew it yourself.

>>49037973
Yeah but at that point the rent sets him back of one third of his salary.

>>49024873
But thats not true, people in the EU buy from Wayland and etc all the time

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>>49037350
>a kilo of minced meat is about 5 euros
How nice for you.

>>49038103
The only reason I'm not gonna buy hams off Wayland is because my local hobby store gives me a bargain that's almost better if not actually better

>>49037810
Considering how they fucked up admech with the split dex, really no reason there

>>49037687
>These two are connected
Hey, that works for all of the food out there. I've yet to eat a tasty broccoli. Or tofu.

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>>49030748

Proof that GW don't care

>>49038103
It's absolutely true. I get that you're probably too young to remember the old video regions (1,2,3,4) but that's how GW divides up their sales. A shop in Region 1 (USA) cannot sell to a shop in Region 2 (Europe) or they risk being banned from selling any GW merchandise.

As such, Wayland (region 2) cannot sell to Australia (region 4) which forces Australian's to buy the same product at the ridiculous markup. It's the GW Embargo, friend. Circa 2011 it started. A dark day for us all.

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>>49038142
For the record, that's 5.44€.

>>49038165
Except GW can't do that in EU, you dingus. It's against international trade agreements and such a small player can't do ahit about it.

So, do Deldar just die horribly in KT?

>>49037780
>Seems optimistic to stretch 250g of meat over three meals, and it would seem to leave you about 0.75 for breakfast and lunch.
That's just the main meal for the day and if you use vegetables and ground tomatoes to make a sauce and boil spaghetti on the side 2 meals are easily possible and 3 shouldn't be too hard either if you actually try
Happens to me sometimes even if I don't try

>I don't know, I'm probably just spoiled.
Wimp! Though all of my weight data was supposed for one person only of course (though I cooked every time for my ex and we always went over 2 days with that recipe)

>>49038142
>44 cents more
innit?

>>49038145
>. I've yet to eat a tasty broccoli. Or tofu.
Tofu is disgusting
If you want nice broccoli, throw em in a pan with a little bit of oil, salt, pepper, after a minute or two add some water so that the bottom of the pan is barely covered and add a lid to steam it (you can also add some broth in the form of a crumpled of broth-cube or some powder here)

Most people boil broccoli but that's idiodic and disgusting (and not as healthy)

>>49038235
Also, if you used the pan before to fry some chicken or turkey or shit like that, don't wash it
it'll add to the taste of the broccoli
Only takes a few minutes as well , never go crazy with the time vegetables spend in heat unless you specifically want them to be soft and soggy

Welcome to /tg/, your source of tips how to cook on a budget in Australia!

>>49038213
ffs that's not even the point jesus

>>49038235
>>44 cents more
That's 500g. For 1kg the difference is 5.13 Euro Symbol.
>>49038191
>3 star beef
Yeah that's probably still only about 500g beef

>>49038093
>but at that point the rent sets him back of one third of his salary
Where do you live? I don't think that's unusual in a lot of places. It's definitely not in southeastern England.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/londoners-now-spending-two-thirds-of-average-income-on-rent-a3154141.html

>>49038434
Come for the editionwars and listwriting shitflinging, stay for home economics and international trade!

If only Heralds of Ruin didn't exist.
And wasn't free.
Why would anyone want to play this shit over HoR

>>49038801
Some people don't like playing homebrew.

>>49022706
Not the same guy, but as an abused housewife SoB players we get used to get the short end of the stick.

But being an army that has existed since RT times seeing marines get new stuff every time, bloody meka animu robotos and other stuff.

Getting squat on spinoff game is hard. Even for the abused housewife.

>>49038929
Yeah, weirdo gits!
>>49038801
I'm mistrustful of the new community edition... and the slapshod editing. LOL GUYZE LETS ADD NEW UNITS

>>49038163
No SoB or Inquisition

YES we are getting squat yay! Also Immolators are no longer sold.

>>49038494
My rent is 350€ month and I make 3000€, living in the city centre of a 400k inhabitants city.

It wouldn't be one third even if I were on minimum wage.

>>49018931
>>£40 for 10 space marines and 10 Tau Fire Warriors
And a 40K rule book.
And the kill team rules.

>>49038572
Orks are a melee race!
Tips on brewing your on alcohol for our budget minded Aussie friends!

>>49038801
Can't play fan rulesets in a GW proper, and the GW proper is the only game store you have nearby.

>>49039474
Apple Juice + Juice Concentrate + Champagne Yeast + Yeast Nutrient + 2 weeks = delicious apple wine

>>49020667
I did not know of this. Fuck.

FUCK.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK

>>49039608
Hey! It comes with EXCLUSIVE PACKAGING! Don't you save your packaging so you can brag with it later?

>>49039474

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-cider/

>open kill team thread
>Most of it about food

WTF

>>49039543
If this shit explodes or produces mustard gas I'm not going to be best pleased anon

>>49040911
Welcome to tg.

Also don't forget to buy local food, and avoid supermarkets, farmer markets are usually cheaper.

>>49041063

Post the screencap then.

>>49038165
Oh. I'm from Europe and a lot of us are getting things through wayland and others now that the pound is down. Didnt know about the other places.

(Yeah, I know the UK is still Europe, you guys know what I mean)

>>49022507
Wait, they aren't?

Why the fuck not?

Why do I even have sisters or play 40k?

>>49020667
I don't get the outrage it just looks like a dwarf?

>>49020667
Wait, that is a pretty old mini

>>49030748
>Mutilators
>DW Vanguards in FA and not Elite
>Commissars in Elite

Yeah, I'm calling BS on that one

>>49018628
>All the newfags thinking this is just another random boxed game
>so many people who have no idea kill team was a game mode

Goddamn no wonder I could never get a Kill team league going before, everyone was too damn new to know what it was.

>>49026402
Last news (about a week old) were saying they were thinking about invoking article 50 of the TFEU in 2019. Then it's 2 years max, but knowing the brits, they'll do some backdoors negociations and will trigger everything is ready.
I hope the Leavers are patient.

>>49037810
Guess i'm not playing Kill Team then

>>49044070
>>49037810
you can infiltrate with the whole army, you have a decent base infantry at a reasonable price whihc can both spam a lot of attacks at medium range or even shoot at long range, good c/c units and super cheap walkers that will tear apart everything in close combat.
No idea why are you whining but I can see skitarii as a pretty solid choice in KT.

>>49044843

Kill team in general favours any army that can bring cheap specialists as offense > defence in 40k until you hit high wound and high toughness models.

>>49018628

Can you make them any chapter or does it have moulded shoulder pads?

Also does it give you the rules to have any faction kill team? e.g. CSM for example.

>>49045098
>Can you make them any chapter or does it have moulded shoulder pads?
Its literally the tactical squad standard sprue with all the options.
>>49045098
>Also does it give you the rules to have any faction kill team? e.g. CSM for example.
Its like the "old" kill team: its base 40k with less points with individual models acting as units. We don't know yet the upgrades they did to the ruleset but to play csm you will need-as usual-the csm codex.

>>49045437

Cheers. That's good to know.

>>49044843
Infiltrate how? Only sicarian can do that.

>>49046290
Never played GW kill team, so, quick question: can you use FOC in KT? if you can i guess you can give scout to the whole army using the standard skitarii one.

>>49027153
they are pretty awful at writing core rules as well, m8

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>>49046410
No KT has its own FOC

>>49022507
they are.

>>49039489
Are they literally going to watch over your shoulder as you play?
You using their fucking models right?
You could be playing chess with them as long as they are GW models. And if they ask, just lie.

>>49046598
Meh, I thought it was gonna be something new, not this shitty-easy-to-exploit-using-grey-knights-jetbikes-or-screamers game...

>>49022507
Random fag posts something with no context, people take it as god.

You can play your sisters. Nothing says you can't.

>>49046598
I don't see any rules regarding unit sizes.

Time for Conscript spam.

>>49046598
Is the book out? Any links up?

>>49047209
>40k chess.
That sounds awesome.

>>49036535
>Psychic Solitude
For what possible purpose? Why not just make it so that one model from the unit is treated as a psyker per turn? This rule might as well just state "you can't play with Pink Horrors or Zoanthropes."

>>49047574
It looks like its real tough to bring Psykers, so that's just there to prevent GK and Daemon players from bringing an entire team of psykers. I see no problem with that.

>>49047574
you can play with then. they just act as independent psykers so things don't get weird with brotherhood because all the members of the unit are now acting independently.

>>49047630
No, they don't do anything. They just lose BoS/P, turning them into hideously overpriced cannon fodder.
>>49047607
Yeah, because GK psyker-spam and Tzeentch Daemons without summoning are such powerful and oppressive lists. Don't worry, fun and balanced lists like Scatbike spam are still totally legal.

>>49047223
>>49047310
>>49047312
These are the old rules i was just answering >>49046410

>>49038215
No, because jetbikes are super great

>>49047661
It sounds like you intend to power game Kill Team anon.

>>49047630
Naw, it means that anyone who gets their psyker-ness from the 'Brotherhood of Psykers' rule, is no longer a psyker.

>>49047675
Are you legitimately retarded? Pink Horrors without Warpflame Host and/or Summoning are mediocre at absolute best. Taking away their psychic powers completely strips them of their purpose.

>>49047661
don't brothehood units still also have the psyker rule. or am i just being dumb.

>>49047741
So, 100% of things need to be competitive or viable? If pink horrors suck (in a game where you're only running a handful of models anyway), then don't use them.

>>49047747
Just checked, they don't. Brohood gives psyker.

>>49037731

They won't be available until next Saturday, only chance of them getting revealed sooner is if someone gets to open the Kill Team box.

Suppose there is the possibility GW may show off some stuff as well, but Traitor's Hate is also going up for preorder next week so they may decide to preview that instead.

>>49038145

I think they handled the Mechanicus situation well considering it's a body made of so many parts. The Cult and the Skitarii are quite different and being stuck together would mean either one of them or both would get skimped on lore.

>>49043831

Problem is that for years and possibly even before then that GW hasn't treated these as serious games and instead things you do once in a blue moon or while you're waiting to build a bigger army.

I've rarely seen people on /tg/ talking about playing Kill Team or its Fantasy equivalent.

>>49046598
Aren't those the old rules ?

>>49048259
>I've rarely seen people on /tg/ talking about playing Kill Team or its Fantasy equivalent.

Thats just because people want to have big armies, its why Apocalypse and Knights was so popular and WHFB ended up requiring too many units, the problem is that while people want BIGGER armies they dont have the budget so they end up complaining about it rather than playing smaller games and GW wants to sell those big armies.

>>49041255

don't parade your ignorance if you know nothing

>>49048987
Sometimes I feel like the only person who wants small skirmishes with 40k dudes.

The big armies can look cool and all, but fuck I don't want to spend all day on one game.

Helping my wallet out is just a bonus.

>>49048984
Yes I said so here:
>>49047664
As far as I know the new rules aren't out yet.

>>49049294
Im the original anon who asked about FOC
thanks for answering buddy, here's your (you)
>>49049089
You are not.
problem is, 40k works horribly bad at 750 points, has a "decent"cap on 1500 and is just straight retarded 1850+, which for some reason is the standard game size now. If GW KT becomes a thing I can start thinking about playing again, in most lgs people straight up refuses to play anything that is not official.

>>49049089
You're not alone Anon. Thankfully, I know some folks who are going to enjoy Kill Team (even its existed for a while, and had a few really great homebrew versions).

The problems lie in how 40k works. Its not a game that functions well at small scale. Simply having all models become independant units does indeed fix many things, but its still designed from the ground up to work large scale.

>>49023549
Best add-on pledge i could have made.

>>49048987

I get the impression that Apocalypse wasn't popular and that is why GW made LoW a thing.

>>49049089

I would not mind if they fixed things so that the game scaled well to smaller levels and this was something actual supported like it is in the General's Handbook for AoS where the three points levels given are 1000, 2000, and 2500.

So, you can field HQ units, right? The 'Ork list' on the site has a Mek. If so, I'm totes down.

>>49049981
LoW were a thing long before apocalypse but was only seen with FW stuff just like flyers used to be.

Apocalypse was very popular as now people got to use their big FW models.

It just didn't get played as often because you had to set aside an entire weekend to get through even a moderately sized game.

>>49046598
holy shit skitarii dragoons would wreck shit in that format.

>>49050561
Mobility would be an issue i think

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>>49022289

>>49020667

Isn't this shit just the slayer model painted white?

lol

>>49039001
The immolator sprue got rolled into the Exorcist box.

>>49050354

It being hard to play is kind of what I was getting at, people would buy these models they could only use in Apocalypse and yet rarely play because the games were prohibitively big.

I wish they would remove some of the limitations that would allow fielding Terminators and Dreads. But I forsee bike dominantion.

>>49047331
http://store.steampowered.com/app/322910/

you're in luck.

>>49049024
>hurr hurr dont ask questions
Faggot

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>>49030748
>>49047282

Which of these do I trust.

Because I see 9 human factions on that chart and none of them are Sisters or Inquisition. I checked it several times because I could not believe it. My only hope is that the chart is either not complete or not official.

I need to know if I should be angry, and if so, how angry.

I promised I would make a SoB army if they ever got a codex and they got a digital only one so I went halfway and built a Kill Team with a hundred bucks. If Kill Team is official now but sisters are not in it then I feel the mode will be more popular and yet my odds of playing it with my army specifically built for it are lower.

Just give me a re-release of Necromunda for fucks sake, plus the individual gangs in glorious plastic. Is it really that much to ask for?

>>49056070
Oh, you'll get your gangs alright... IN FINECAST!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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>>49056119
>This is how it feels to receive Finecast

>>49049089
You'll never be alone friend. I like Warhammer, but between time, money, and space, I don't want a large army. Besides, having to model and paint only squad leaves much more room for really making them your own.

I used to own Tau, Necrons and Chaos Marine armies when I was a teenager. Now I just have a single squad of Iron Warriors for this exact reason.

>>49055994
Dude we get it no SoB's now calm down. There's already been like 8 other posts of it.

>>49056889
There are posts saying you can so I just want to know which side is uninformed.

>>49055994
sisters wil be in killteam.
like last time its going to be modifications for the core rules and as such all factions are in.

that list is clearly not from an official GW thing. Kroothounds aren't fast attack for example. Its just someone trolling with a blurry image from some fan ruleset.

>>49039004
where do you live and how can I ...immigrate

>>49019578
Only since Battle Missions actually.

>>49057036
Ironstrider Ballistarii are listed as fast attack instead of heavy support. I just assumed they shifted a couple specifically for the format.

if GW squatted Sisters, would it be MORE or LESS of a /tg outrage shitstorm than the destruction of WHFB has been?

>>49057831
It'd be like 5 anons shouting. So roughly about the same.

>>49057831
>>49057853

Nothing they would bitch and moan and then just run them as marines or veteran Imperial Guard.

Pissing off the players. Part of me would be happy sisters got squated.

>>49057036
The scanned page doesn't mention any modifications to their core rules, which makes me skeptical, as it would mean that every model has access to AoF separately.

>>49057831
They won't get squatted. That would require GW to acknowledge their existance.

>>49056119
GW doesn't do finecast anymore.

We'll just get a £100 starter set with some models and £30 individual model packs.

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>>49058073

I wish. I'm getting tired of the same 1 or 2 guys making up 50% of a 40k general posting their crap SoB armylists or pretending to be a new SoB player that doesn't know how their army works and asking 'how do I SoB?"

>>49058764
Are you mad they are not talking about SM, Eldar or Tau?

Actually curious

>>49058826

All of those things are more relevant to 40k.

>>49058764
It's a conspiracy, I tell you. No one could possibly like the SoB.

>>49058975
Hey swiss army guard is kind of a cool idea.

Saddly GW does not care any more.

>>49058907

So in other words if you don't play SM, eldar or tau you aren't relevant to 40k? Christ I knew /tg/ was bad at warhams but thats straight up dakkadakka level of idiocy.

>>49059087

>things I didn't say for 500, alex

Your reading comprehension is at dakkadakka levels of idiocy. You must be one of those sob posters.

>>49055994
>>49057036
That 'leaked list' (Which I will point out again, was posted with no context) doesn't include Meks, which one of the example kill teams includes. Probably something from some homebrew ruleset.

>>49059087
He said nothing of the sort.
You sisterfags keeping shitting up the general with barely on topic bitching about how your shitty faction that nobody plays doesn't get any support. Nobody gives a ahit, whining about it hear doesn't get GW to adress the issue, and all it does is turn away people from possibly agreeing with you, as they become weary of your bitching.

>>49038801
some people would rather play the real game over some pdf made by internet people

>>49059733
Beside the GW stamp rules are just as bad as any GW rules.

But that is a personal opinion so take it with a grain of salt.

>>49059684
Oh lord of bitching please guide every single people bitching about GW to the GW forums oh wait they are gone. Facebook page? twitter? Mail?

Where shall we send our concern.

Honestly I'd love to see a Dark Eldar treatment for SoB and Inquistion bunch of plastic.
If memory does not fuck me over, Dark Eldar were pretty much dead before they got an update.

>>49059781
>Where shall we send our concern.
Anywhere but here.
I'm legitimately curious: what do you think constant complaining here accomplishes?

>>49060084
Nothing but venting.

Maybe piss off someone and have an internet fight.

I know its a pretty good deal considering the cost of buying seperate but this also applied to Death Masque, and the Storm of Sigmar box:

i wish they would put some basic TERRAIN in the box.
even 2e folded card ruins would be better than nothing
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>>49059781

>Dark Eldar were pretty much dead before they got an update.

Depending if you count the reprint of the 3rd ed codex DE went the longest without an update than any other factioon from both 40k and fantasy. That said bretonians might've beaten their record before fantasy was replaced with age of sigmar.

In fact to date SoB have had more updates than DE have.

>>49059684
To be fair, nobody plays them because nobody wants to spend 2 million dollars per unit of models with out of date rules.

>>49060605
Bretonians. Another army GW killed.

Chaos Dwarfs? Gone!
Bretonia? Gone!
Squats? Gone!

If I was /pol/ I'd suspect GW actually looks up what army I'm using and nuke it.

>>49060896

On the other hand after best part of 20 years they did in fact give harlequins their own codex to stand proud with. The last standalone harlequin rules were the citadel journel rules. Amusingly enough to the line of conversation at the time the citadel journel harlequins were broken as fuck except against SoB due to flamers not giving a fuck about harlequin shenanigans.

>>49055994
the list is obviously a fake, it has several screwups, omissions, and just straight up stupid things in it.

Like mutilators. Who the fuck would honestly believe you could take immolators in kill team?

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>>49020667
GW you fucking hack

>>49057575
GW have never done that before for kill team.

>>49019345
In my day it was in the core rule book.

>>49021910
Remember that using proxies to evade regional pricing is not only legal but was recommended by our current PM.

>>49065517

>4th
>he doesn't play the abomination that was 3rd

Ah, the days when if you fell back through terrain you could test to regroup. Or when supporting models in close combat were limited to a single attack.

I actually played a 3rd ed game recently for nostalgia sake (using 3rd ed codices and all) and fuck me its a bad version of 40k. Though my opponent nearly ragequit because he forgot firing boltguns and then charging was a thing.

Side note: all hail true grit.