Could we talk about ADB? I know he used to be /tg/s favorite

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He'd be average-tier in any other community but is top-tier for 40k because most others are so terrible

>>48924559
Has ADB ever really been good? I dropped the HH series thanks to his work in it. I propose that James Swallow replace him in the holy trinity of BL writers.

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>>48924584

Wasnt Firewarrior something like a doom novel

>Khorne himself somehow gets a tau firewarrior under his influecne
>I MUST KILL THE SPACE MARINES

>>48924559
Eh, I enjoyed the book more when I realized it was basically a Black Crusade campaign, from the party being made of a face, a mage and a warrior, down to the moment when Khayon rolls a crit multiple times and psionically tows a starship before tossing it at a city.

You know whats a book I really hated

"Death World"

I dont understand why you would call Catachan the deadliest deathworld that produces the best jungle fighters in the planet only to have half a squad die to some random ass death world

He's too biased. Almost all of his books are pretty much these:

> Cool, edgy totally-not-corrupted-Chaos-fanatic protagonist who has a daddy issue.
> Have valid reason to oppose the Imperium and it's all the Emperor's fault.
> Chaos will win and it's inevitable
> Emperor's a shit fucking bloodthirsty tyrant bitch whore etc etc

>>48924736
yes Fire warrior was an amazing book

Water Caste tried to dress up like Imperial but they clearly have no ideal what is what so they just wore a mess of gear like gasmask with dress uniform and stuff

>>48924689
First Heretic was good

I really haven't read too much of his stuff really

Also the Emperor's Gift was terrible it was just Space Yiff wank

>>48924847
I absolutely loved that moment towards the end. Also, Khayon's sister and DE pet were enjoyable.

>>48926248
First Heretic was where ADB committed to 'winning the argument.' Making his side look good while making the other side look bad. I suppose the technical writing was good.

>>48924584
Dead Men Walking was stellar desu

Abnet is my favorite.

>>48926248
The Emperor's Gift is about Gray Knights dumbass

I liked that Book

"Xeno hunters"

but it was a bunch of different authors.


One story had Cursed 21st in a kill team though

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ADB is a fucking god amongst men.

I, for one, welcome our ADB overlords.

>>48926291
Well I be fair I read Know No Fear first so I knew the Word Bearers were a bunch of assholes

Its kinda why I like Word Bearers really
same with iron warroirs

>>48924885

That's actually most of the squad. And being 40k, it was inevitable that they would drop into some sentient world that ups the difficulty with each cycle.

One meh book isn't enough to dethrone him. I'm eager for when he finally finishes Master of Mankind. That's the book that will make or break him. I'm sure I'll love it or hate it.

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>>48926520
In First Heretic on Istvaan V the Iron Warriors were shooting down loyalist dropships and they were crashing into Word Bearer lines. When the Bearers voxxed the Iron Warriors telling them to stop firing the Iron Warriors respond "we're all bleeding today, have faith Word Bearer" the IW then laugh, hang up on the Word Bearers and keep shooting down dropships

>>48926585

Fuckin "Lowrun" Lorenzo


I wish Catachans got more books

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>>48924584

>tfw no Ciaphas Cain book in forever


I need Cain adventures and dicking eldar

>>48926656

His given name was "Long Run", but I'm with you. The Catachans need more books.

That said, I really like "One Hate", his short story about the Crimson Fists. I felt it was a really punchy short story, full of what makes a Space Marine a Space Marine.

>>48925106
Three of those are literally in every single 40k core rules since second edition.

>>48924689
I mean, as a DA fan, he's written the only not-completely-shit story for us.
But I suppose if you put anyone up against Thorpe/Kyme-tier they look like wordsmiths of the highest caliber.

>>48927513
>DA fan
Why?

>>48924584
What's wrong with the Bastion Wars series? I liked them fairly well.

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>>48924559
>It's like a picture frame without a painting in the middle

You just don't understand TRUE ART.

>>48926681
I think he got captured by some DEldar once. I don't think we've seen it on-screen though.

>>48926681
Ciaphas Cain was the shit.

>Smooth talks into an Inquisitor's pants
>Shouts down a bunch of drunk russian assholes having a food fight
>Fights Necrons and Nids even though he afraids of everything

All it was lacking was Eldar bitches.

>>48926681
>>48927577

Plus Eldar would kill Jurgen since they dont like Tana and sandwiches

>>48927601
I wonder if they'll be too busy freaking out over the blank.

>>48927580
Which Hive was Cain from anyway?

>>48927535
Because unlike Curze, the lion actually dealt with the problem on his homeworld.

I mean, also because I'm probably a masochist who likes space arthurian knights in space, but that's beside the point.

>>48927722
Not sure. AFAIK even Vail doesn't really know. Cain has lied about it since he hit the Schola.

>>48927737
Hey! Konrad-senpai totally dealt with the problem on his homeworld! True, his solution was to blow it all up, but that technically counts, right?

>>48927722
it's kept a mystery. people have to have some secrets.

>>48927780
could have done better. Like, a lot better.

That said, horrible agonizing death and disproportionate retribution are viscerally satisfying.

>>48927780

Well, there is that old saying about explosives and problems.

>>48927780
I'll give him half points for eliminating the problem, but the damage had already been done.

I mean, a similar thing happens later for Lion, so I guess in the end they end up being pretty equal.

Lets let bygones be bygones then?

>>48927835
>horrible agonizing death and disproportionate retribution are viscerally satisfying.
Why do you think we like Night Lords?

>>48927865
speaking of which, does anyone have a pdf of their omnibus or something?

>>48927580

your forgetting

>Being best bros with a Vallhallan
>Fucking a Tech priestess
>Being considered a saint
>went into a fucking space hulk came out unharmed

>>48927897
why no third cain omnibus? why?

>>48927897
I wonder if Cain is really buried with full honors. Given how belief works in 40k, maybe there's a zombie Cain walking around somewhere.

>>48927933

Sandy is a lazy guy.

You even saw that in the books already

>>48927984
I wonder how much rambling Cain's notes had pre-Amberley edit.

>>48928102
weren't they all edited by Amberley?

>>48928176
I mean pre-edit. I remember some parts implied Cain slept with Amberley before Amberley cut those parts off. Given Cain's appreciation for the female form, I can only imagine Cain writing a fapfic.

>>48927942
>Given how belief works in
Is this a meme? I've seen it incorrectly applied to dozens of series.

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>>48929002
>dis humie finks beliefz don' work like dat

>>48927513
>>48927737
Am I the only one that actually liked Descent of Angels?

>>48924559
/tg/ is a fickle mistress, and far too prone to turning on authors

>>48929016
I thought it was mediocre. The best book for the faction so far(not saying much).

It was fun hearing about pre-discovery Caliban and some of the early interactions with the Lion were cool, but it quickly became a bit hamfisted with the themes(Look at my special powers, kinda stupid emperor-assassination plot, and the Lion getting progressively more stupid as the story goes on). It just feels like so many words without any clear meaning towards the end.

It's not as bad as the later books, but it still takes a dive from an ok story about a pre-discovery world that has a decent focus to a lukewarm one with a clusterfuck of ideas and meaningless foreshadowing in the second half. 5/10.

Are his Night Lord novel actually good?

What about Lord of the Night?

I dig the paint scheme and motifs but the lore always bugged me. I don't wanna prey on easy foes and wear shitty skins all over my armor like every other chaosfag.

>>48924584

I wish they would stop giving James Swallow all of the Blood Angels material. He's not completely awful but he's not great either. Stunningly mediocre in his execution of ideas.

Anywhere know where I can download HH stuff? Looking for the Long Night eshort in particular. I need more Sevatar in my life.

>>48924736
>>Khorne himself somehow gets a tau firewarrior under his influecne


You are a cunt that deserves to get shot in the dick. Khorne had nothing to do with Kais. People like you just pick up any random wrong thing that has been said and parrot it to infinity instead of reading the books and getting the right information.

>>48926225
>yes Fire warrior was an amazing book

Don't pretend you read it. If you did, then you would have corrected the other guy on his bullshit.

>>48929394
This.

Rafen is a blatant fucking self-insert and it's horrible. He's so mediocre with giving character's personalities, he made the Blood Angel's into absolute jobbers and turned Dante into an absolute push-over with a crush on Gabriel Seth.

Andy Smilie did a better job of characterizing a BA successor (Flesh Tearers) than Swallow could ever hope to do, and even then it's really hit or miss.

Gav Thorpe has fucking ruined Dark Angels for me, and the fact he's writing for that Deathwing game is worrying.

>>48924584
What didn't people like about The Macharian Crusade? Seeing how Macharius always had an Alexander vibe in the lore, I liked the set up of a guardsman narrator on the periphery of Macharius' total vision. The second book has a pretty good portrayal of Dark Eldar, casually flaying guardsmen in the middle of combat.

>>48925106
Is there anything wrong with any of what you said? Giving Chaos characters that aren't one dimensional psychos is a good thing imo

Also, that bit in Talon of Horus where they talk to an Imperial Daemon was cool af

Anyone know what is happening to all the big name Bl authors most haven;t published any new materials in years I Know abnett has;t written anything new in ages and sandy mitchel author comissar cain has;t written anything lately either.

>>48929670
Except he explicitly did. Kais in the end goes insane and screams BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.

>>48924584
What the fuck is wrong with Bastion Wars? The series was awesome, fuck everybody who bitches about plagiarism.

>>48931490
Again, you confirmed that you didn't read the novel.

That happened at the LAST PAGES OF THE BOOK, during the last fight. When the Tzeentchian Daemon Lord, who was manipulating Kais the whole time, pleaded with the Khornate shrine for help against Kais and his Utramarine ally.

Khorne responded by turning the Tzeenchian daemonlord into a massive Khornate daemon. The Khornate daemon used his rage aura to infect Kais and to draw him out of cover so that he can torture and kill him.

The daemon's influence over Kais lasted for 2 minutes before Kais regained his focus and defeated the daemon by blowing up the last shrine.

You're a worthless reader or a brainless parrot.

>>48929683
I'm looking at my copy right now

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>>48924584
This list is utter dogshit.

>Ciaphas Cain
Meme-tier dogshit books, only the first three were alright, everything after the first three is completely repetitive to the point of being redundant. There's no point in even bothering to read past the third book because "Sandy" is the definition of a hack.

>Storm of Iron
McNeil is also a complete hack incapable of writing any good characters like Rob Sanders or Dan Abnett. Storm of Iron is his best work, but it's only acceptable at best. All of McNeil's work is painfully two dimensional and he is very much the definition of "BL Filler".

>Andy Chambers Dark Eldar
Why the fuck is this not top-tier? Andy's Dark Eldar is among the best 40k books ever written as characters are actually something greater than a cardboard cutout.

>Soul Drinkers
Seriously? The fucking Soul Drinkers, the most retarded characters in any 40k book, so mentally challenged it's astonishing they weren't aborted in their first generation is remotely close to the word 'good'? The Soul Drinkers is one of the WORST 40k book series simply because the characters are written like utter fucking stooges and there's no way the Soul Drinkers would have gone that far without getting their asses purged. Spider leg mutation a gift from the Emperor my ass.

>Salamanders by Nick Kyme
Either it's the best book written for the Super Saiyan Space Marine, or the absolute worst for the Super Saiyan Space Marine

>Space Marine Battle Novels
>Heresy
Disregarding the fact that lumping dozens of books written by a shitload of authors into a single tier is fucking stupid, the Space Marine Battles Series includes some of the BEST 40k books yet written (Legion of the Damned, Rynn's World).

>The Unforgiven
Dude putting that book on the same tier as CS Goto novels is insulting to CS Goto.

>>48931566
That other anon is a brainless parrot. You appear to be worthless reader. Scroll to this excerpt.

>‘I sensed you this morning, when you set down on this world. I’ve had millennia to prepare, little tau. Millennia of oozing myself into the minds of mortals. I’ve whispered and hissed into more brains than I can remember, through the years. I tasted your species this morning, like a fine wine, and found it wanting…’

>‘So disappointing, I thought. An incorruptible race. No psychic powers. No dark desires or secret horrors… Hmm… On that count, at least, I was wrong. You merely keep them well hidden…

>‘But you… alone among thousands. I could taste you! Such bitterness! Such shame!

>‘You’re strong, there’s no doubt about it. You’re skilled at your craft. You cut a bloody swathe to me like a knife through the warp, but not because you could…

>‘Because I made you want to…

>‘And now you seriously think you can cast off my gift and kill me? Little tau, you have a lot to learn.’

-From "Fire Warrior"

A Tzeentchian Daemon, who happens to be the BBEG, was the guy who was pushing Kais to continue. He didn't do that by empowering him with daemonic power or anything. He simply made him not give up and die by mentally manipulating him through his doubts and daddy issues.

No Khorne was involved until the very end of the novel where the same daemon drew upon the Khornate shrine for aid to kill Kais. Now transformed into a Khornate daemon, the BBEG used his Khornate aura to twist Kais's mind and bring him into the open. Like i said, this lasted a short time before Kais purified his mind and blew up the Khornate shrine.

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>>48924689
He gave us one of the few non shitty Dark Angel stories, so he's bro tier for that alone. Gav Thorpe, please go die in a fucking fire.

>>48925106
Actually he did a good job portraying the Dark Angels as noble. ADB's Lion is practically Bretonnian in nature, apologizing for running Curze through with his sword.

>>48926425
>>48927535
>>48927780
Don't you have a scheduled anal-rape-by-the-lion to attend, delivered by your deity ADB?

>Tarkh’ax scrabbled for vengeance. Its formidable manifestation was denied it. Each in turn, its dark gods had turned their unkind faces away, disappointed in its performance.

>Only one remained, now. One last chance at revenge. One last chance to crush the fleshy maggots that had brought it so low.

>“Mighty Khorne!” the daemonlord raged into the warp, sensing the bloodlust rising in its consciousness, feeling the fleshshape coalescing around it. “Deliver me into form!”

>And Khorne delivered.

The Tzeentchian Daemon Lord asking Khorne for help.

>>48924689
Has James Swallow ever posted here or mentioned /tg/, though?

>>48931702
(Its avian features twisted apart, horned and leering, eyes and beak and nostrils blazing with inner fire. It rolled its head loosely, spine-pillared shoulder-guards shrugging.)

>(It was an armoured slaughterer, wings shedding the last of their coloured feathers to reveal the black-leather folds of batflesh beneath. It curled its vast knuckles, blood patina’d chainmail wrapped and stapled to its very flesh, around an axe that dribbled red fluids, threw back its head, and roared.)

>(It bled. It bled a sticky crimson carpet from every joint in its armour, from every chain mail link and every jagged connection of chains and spines and ancient skulls. It was a blood monster. A gore-ogre. A butcher-giant.)

>(When it moved, striding forth and raising up that sickly slick blade, as big as Kais himself, the red mist of heat and vapour rising off its gory surfaces followed it like a shroud. A blood veil.)

The Daemon Lord who was a Lord of Change was transformed into a Bloodthirster and he gained a Khorne Rage Aura.

>>48931737
>The butcher daemon cocked its head at the tiny thing before it, stretched out a hand, and let its bloody aura, its dark mantle of shadow and gore, slip out of its fingers and into Kais’s mind. The Mont’au devil came slinking out of its mental shadows. Kais couldn’t resist it now. His consciousness rolled over, his rationality dissolved away into the bloody mire trickling through it, and he surrendered himself utterly, without regret or hope of salvation, to the rage.

>His lips had parted before he even knew what he was saying. The air was rising in his lungs. His tongue formed the words without his bidding.

>And all he could see in his mind was his father, staring down from his moral highground, spewing his expectations and judgement upon the youth before him.

>Shas’la T’au Kais threw back his head, choked on bitterness, opened his mouth, and screamed: “BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!”

The only created Bloodthirster sent out its aura to infect Kais's mind. Kais was too mentally exhausted to resist the auras influence.

>>48931756
The newly created*

>>48931756
>''The daemonlord sensed something was wrong. The bloodlust it had gifted to the tau creature was waning. It evaporated like water, unclouding the tiny morsel’s mind and leaving it cold and sharp: a dagger of focus that no amount of insidious corruption could ever penetrate''

>''It didn’t matter. A pure tau died just as easily as a tainted one''

-Fire Warrior

And two minutes later, Kais broke free from the daemons aura of rage and became pure. He went on to blow up the Khorne shrine which weakened the daemon enough for the Crisis team to finish it off.

Now can you guys drop the bullshit about Kais being controlled by Khorne or that Khorne took an interest in Kais?

Kais got out of this alive thanks to a lot of dumb luck, some skill, and a Tzeentchian daemon who acted as a cheerleader. That's it.

>>48929376
The night lords are the closest thing to reasonable marines in 30k, and only intelligent chaosfags left in the 41st millenium. They don't fight unless they know they can win, they remove communications, power and command asap with decapitation strikes, then terrify the populace into compliance. They prefer not to do astartes-on-astartes stand-up fights, and if forced to they prefer to have numerical advantages. You can have completely insane psychos who flay babies to get new armour coverings, or you can have your betrayed sons who raid to survive. And by 40k they havnt changed overmuch, since they scattered throughout the entire northern quadrant of the galaxy in the Heresy and therefore many didnt squat in the Eye and mutate horrifically

>>48931888
Except they aren't at all. When it comes to power the Night Lords are in fact one if, if not the single weakest legion of them all. They are completely unable to fight other Astartes, and when they do they tend to get slaughtered (like when the First Legion raped them hard, or the Ultramarines completely shattered them). Reasonable marines are Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Raven Guard, and the Alpha Legion. The Night Lords are far from it because their entire strategy depends on the opponent being weaker than they are, meaning they fold completely when fighting peer or superior enemies. Which is fucking important when they're one of the weakest forces after the Horus Heresy.

Likewise the entire point of the Night Lords trilogy by ADB was to show the consuming hypocrisy of the Night Lords, and how Talos still believed himself on some level to be a noble being on a quest that meant something instead of a mindless rampaging murderer with no purpose or cause to fight for. Competent Chaos Space Marines remain the Alpha Legion (who are so fucking good they wiped out an entire Ultramarine's successor Chapter, a thousand marines, without losing a single man), Iron Warriors (to a degree, attrition warfare is a losing game for Astartes but Iron Warriors supplement their forces with hordes of cloned/bred slave fodder), Fallen Dark Angels (who at times single handily corrupt entire planets), and some elements of the Black Legion, YMMV. There also should be credit given to the Death Guard, who are pretty good at getting shit done in the name of Chaos.

>>48932019
>in the name of Chaos
>reasonable
wut. NL are not doing it for chaos, and i said they prefer not to fight other astartes. If avoiding fighting other eight-foot tall killing machines is unreasonable, then i dont want to be reasonable. I'm not saying they're a strong legion, but as far as being rational astartes, they're about as good as you'll get-loyalists are mostly religious zealots or tradition-bound to the point of uselessness, and traitors are either serving the gods (rational? nope), dying in corpsegrinders or being memes.

>>48932178
And that's not reasonable. Reasonable is being tactically competent and having a mastery of logistics so you can ENGAGE peer opponents and win. Night Lords don't do this, they're cowards who flee at the sign of anything going south. They almost never dig in and hold a position, in fact they never hold anything. They also suffer greatly from constant backstabbing, looting, and realpolitik in the middle of fucking battle, the first Night Lord to die in the Drop Site Massacre was shot in the back. Night Lords are only "reasonable" if you think real military forces are retarded fuckwits who flee at the first sign of danger and sort out their unit relations by shooting each other when they can blame it on enemy fire.

Also, Night Lords fight for Chaos like everybody else regardless of what they have deluded themselves into thinking. They're led by a god damn Daemon Prince, many of them are mutated, Raptor cults all worship chaos, and the end result of a Raptor Cult is Warp Talons, daemonically possessed super assassin marines.

BROTHERS, THY CHOLER IS UP
CEASE THIS WET LEOPARD GROWLING AND LET US SWEAR AN OATH OF MOMENT

>>48931614
You, my dear friend, have a good taste and I totally agree with you. The Souldrinkers books were some of the worst I ever had to read.

>>48924584

Inquisition War deserves to go up a tier, if only for that fucking amazing Emperor monologue and the Callidus waifu. Path of the Eldar was mediocre as hell. Horribly paced and not a single likable character to root for.

>>48925106

There's nothing wrong with having Chaos be more than 1 dimensional baddies. And the entire series ends with the warband having the utter shit kicked out of them with the only consolation prize being a vague prophecy. Hardly mary sue.

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What do you boys think of Dead Men Walking? I absolutely loved it

>>48931489
Abnett got a major contract writing comics
McNeill is moving to USA to do the same - plus the series is starting to insert actual gods and he is a dickhead fedora atheist

>>48934290
Top tier

>>48934290
I thought it had some good parts, and good potential, and was still pretty interesting to read. The way the Guardsmen fight the Necrons is pretty cool as well.

>>48934290
Good action, mostly meh plot and Death Korps wankery.

Any idea when the next Abbadon book will be released?

I liked Talon of Horus but there was too little of the big guy himself.

Also Sigismund BTFO

>>48934620

>Hot potato melta gun

metal as fuck

>>48925106
I think that's just because he gets put on Chaos books, man. He writes for the subject he's writing about, and for Chaos books, that means sympathetic Chaos guys and the Imperium portrayed in a more negative light.

>>48927942
>implying he didn't fake his death and isn't living with Amberly right now

>>48924559
The First Heretic is one of the best of the Horus Heresy novels, and his short stories for HH are also pretty baller.

Talon of Horus is shit though. The whole book is just filler, and whatever editor approved all those sections of Khayon telling the inquisition that everything is going according to keikaku needs to be fired.
>>48924584
French's Ahriman series is fantastic. His phrasing and descriptions for warp shit is great, he manages to make Ahriman sympathetic while still clearly being a bad guy, and the supporting characters are fantastic. The short story anthology with Ctesias is ace as well.

>>48934739
Hell yeah.

>>48924584
Iron Guard should be somewhere on that list. Good, if not better.

I'd put Salanders lower than Redemption Corps.

How the hell is anything The Beast related in Acceptable tier?

>>48933862
Wasn't the plan mostly for them to die like Marines in the defense of their last real home and not like the monsters they grew into?
Everything else was just a bonus.

>>48934290
It wasn't bad. It tried too hard to be a bit of a tearjerker near the end, and focused a bit too much on everyone thinking the Kriegers were weird. Yes, I get it, they're weird and don't act like normal people. But in the context of the story, it doesn't make me feel sorry for them, it just makes me feel like everyone else is wimping out or dying needlessly.

>>48929376
Night Lords trilogy is a great read, but Lord of the Night is miles better.

>>48932178
>>48931888
You mean the First Claw is all those things. And even then half of the PoV characters and most of their warband has fallen. It's true that the Night Lords are less trusty of Chaos than the other Legions, but that doesn't mean much really. And they are one of the most fractured Legions which only gets together to either kill Eldar, cry about their daddy issues or bicker about who should lead them, just to fuck off once again.

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>>48931614

>>48924584
This list is wrong as 'The Beast Arises' and 'Soul Drinkers' should be bumped down to Heresy Tier.

>>48936313 What's wrong with beast?

It's a pretty fun series, and really shows off what the Orks can do.

>>48936361
Some people find the Fists being knocked down to only one man to be rather disturbing. I am one of those, but maybe if it wasn't in one book and a gradual thing throughout the series it would okay.

>>48931450
that is like saying that having non hot chilly is good, because chilly doesn't have to be hot.
Chaos dudes are crazy, the way dwarfs have beards and elfs are cunts.

>>48936361
It's just terrible with Vulkan returning, the Imperial Fists nearly getting destroyed, Ork battle-moons, and rest of the stupidity found in the Beast Arises series.

>>48936452
Hey, it's short enough after the heresy that there are still marines around from the original legion. Is it such a weird thing that a chapter recovers thanks to the help of their successors? It's not like the fists aren't the chewtoy of 40k.

Yeah, I agree it sucks in that aspect, but the rest of the series is really good.

>>48936472
Vulkan returns, does some pretty awesome things, and then dissapears around the same time that he did in normal 40k.

Ork battle-moons showed up before during the Great Crusade, they're just really oversized space hulks.

>>48936472
The battle moons aren't that bad. Just get a couple workaholic Mekz and material and you probably either get a battle moon or a slugga that will open a portal to the Warp.

>>48927780
>Konrad-senpai

Please kill thyself

>>48931450
>Also, that bit in Talon of Horus where they talk to an Imperial Daemon was cool af

Come again?

>>48926681
I'm glad it seems to be over. You could tell Sandy Mitchell wasn't as into it with the last three books. Especially since those three were commissioned after the original ending.

>>48932019
>Dark Angels
>Reasonable

Yeah because packing up, leaving a war zone and leaving your allies to die because someone in the next sector whispered "fallen" is reasonable...

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>>48931688
>Curze almost throttled Lion to death
>Only saved by one of his boytoys LITERALLY backstabbing Curze
>Couldn't even kill Curze when he had backup from Big Roboute

>>48936869
As a DAfag, I want to admit that the Dark Angels aren't fully reasonable, but they never left allies hanging. Worst they did (aside from possible teamkilling) is clearing two out of three planets they were supposed to clear because a Fallen showed up.

Now the Angels of Redemption, those guys are the most fucked of the Unforgiven. Blamming allies and leaving friendlies behind. While the DA try to keep their Fallenboner hidden under their robes, the Angels of Redemption don't give two fucks and start swinging theirs around and screaming. The only reason they haven't been reported is probably that they don't leave anyone to report, either in the way of remaining allies or teamkills.

>second bequin book never

ABNETT

>>48936916
Is there a Space Wolf version of this?

According to the Beast Arises, the Beast is nothing compared to the original Krork from the war in heaven. What do you think the original Krork were like?

>>48937125
Orks but with Eldar-style armor and weapons.

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>>48937112
No, I've got a few saved, none space wolf

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>>48937112

Kinda. I don't think it's supposed to be but if someone just plasters the SW icon on the mug it should work.

>>48936467
Khayon and Talos are crazy, just in a different way to say, Kharn the Betrayer.

>>48936798
While traveling through a warp storm a guy with a golden mask called Imperius appears on the bridge of Khayon's ship. Think he was a personification of the Astronomicon or something.

>>48937191
Unrelated, but what was the Golden being that led Abaddon to his daemon sword?

>>48937293
IDK, was that in Talon of Horus?

>>48931688
Which Dark Angels stories had ADB written?

>>48938912
Savage Weapons. One of the stories in the Age of Darkness Anthology.

Nice story. Corswain is a bro of the highest caliber.

>>48937293
Sounds like the deceiver, at least that's who supposedly guided Abbadon to Drach'nyen back in the EoT days.

>>48937293
Sigmar.

>>48936472
>>48936519


>orks managed to make the fucking Iron Warriors say "man that shits fucked"

>>48925106
don't forget the mandatory female character the protagonist marine admires/protects

>>48936916
the Lion fucked up Curze in their second fight (prince of crows) and he Bane'd him in Angels of Caliban

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>>48939363
"fucked up in their second fight"

so badly that he had to go around looking for him in his basement and then got egg on his face when curze made a cockhead out of him on macragge by launching every drop-pod out of his ship onto said planet?


>he actually read angels of caliban

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>>48931614
>Spider leg mutation a gift from the Emperor my ass.

Fool!

BEHOLD YOUR GLORIOUS EMPEROR

>>48924584
I don't think I have ever seen anyone else who thought the Word Bearer omnibus was good

>>48924559
>implying Talon was bad
What's your malfunction?

>>48939983
I liked it

If only because it actually expanded upon the Word Bearers and made them not Saturday Morning Cartoon villains, and accurately portrayed their internal power structure and the fact that some CSM actually do legitimately feel kinship with other Marines and can respect them as individuals

It does have the recurring BL problem of not knowing how to do religion right, though.

>>48940567
I agree.
Plus it has lots of fantastic moments, the Dark Eldar jail break and every slave scene in the first book.