Warcraft Lore and RPG Discussion

Arakkoa Sunwalkers.

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Illidan didn't deserve to come back. Garrosh does.

>>48906342
Makes more sense than tauren sunwalkers

>>48906424
Sunwalkers make plenty of sense. They're arguably some of the most justified race/class combination additions in Cataclysm.

>>48906424
sunwalkers being paladins are about as close as you can get to sun druids without adding another spec

they had to add another paladin race, and it doesnt make sencse for trolls, orcs, goblins, and i would say that undead / tauren are about as reasonable.

Racial Ability Ideas That Don't Suck, go.

>>48906507

I don't see why they didn't just make Paladin classes for anyone that had priests. Since Paladin orgins were just priests/clerics trained for war, or knights trained to use divine magic.

Any other race could do that.

>>48906582
Every Meme For Memeself
your gear scales to the max PvP item level no matter what level or equipment you have

Who Argent Dawn here?

>>48906625
>Undead, Orc, Worgen, Goblin, Night Elf and Pandaren Paladins

NOPE

>>48906625
cos gnome, troll, goblin, nightelf, and pandaren priests make no sense

>>48906507
I kind of wish they did Forsaken instead. I feel like it would've been easier to justify and feel incorporated within the world, having it be Forsaken who use a power that makes them feel uncomfortable while doing it for the greater good. Change Guard "Where's My Trainer" dialogue to reflect on the fact that the Forsaken as a whole don't -love- Paladins, and that'd pretty much be all you need.

Like how Spell Breakers in Silvermoon tell Hunters that their backwoods asshole trainers are in the Farstrider Lodge; and how you should join a proper profession.

Have a Forsaken Guard make the assumption that you're a fallen Scarlet Crusader or Knight of the Silver Hand, make a mockery of you "Light certainly saved you didn't it? Pathetic how you cling to it even now" type of remark, and then point you towards your class trainer. Give a Sir Zelik type order character for Forsaken alongside Leonid for the Argents, and you'd have a decent addition that doesn't look out of place in every single paladin outfit.

>>48906671
There's a few Forsaken Paladins.

>>48906673
Pandaren Shadow Priests probably do.

gas the forsaken race war now

>>48906699
Gas the Horde.

>>48906710
sup Mal'ganis

>>48906673
>troll
Same deal as with tauren sunwalkers, no race-specific thematics

>nightelf
They have priestesses out the ass, technically they should be channeling Elune

>>48906732
Knights of Elune would be kinda cool.

>>48906684

I can only think of one in the Argent Crusade, and he's not actually a Paladin.

Who are the others?

>>48906673

Troll priests who channel the Loa train to wreck face. Fluff 'em differently and they're mechanically paladins.

Night Elves worship Elune, and Tyrande was already a priestess that was in battle. Call 'em sentinels and you have NE Paladins.

Not much different from Blood Knights and Vindicators.

>>48906684
There's Sir Zeliek (who had no control over his own body and was barely more than Kel'Thuzad's puppet, spent every single second in horrible agony, and actually thanks the players when he is killed in Naxx), and that's it. The Argent Crusade has a few undead in its rank (like Leonid Barthalomew), but they're warriors, not paladins.

>>48906732
>>48906745
>Knights of Elune

There's one in Legion, she's a Holy Paladin. One of the Pallies' Champions.

>>48906851
Yeah, but she's probably overshadowed by the fact that pallies also get a holy dreadlord.

>>48906791
tauren druids, who wear plate armour and channel the power of the sun to fuck shit up

tauren druids. realise just doing stuff with the moon is exactly balance, wear plate armour, channel the power of the sun to fuck shit up

This is why I take a 'you can play any race/class combination, but you better have a damn good reason for being an ogre paladin' stance for campaigns.

But the advantage of tabletop games is that I can tailor NPC interaction to the party in ways a videogame never could. So being a statistically improbable combination won't go without comment.

>>48906264
>What's the issue?

The issue is that they look nothing like a goblin on steroid.

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>Tauren Paladin discussion
Last time I thought about them was this comic.

>>48907053
I think "alchemically mutated" is several steps above "on steroids"

>>48906671

There's a night elf pally in legion if I'm not mistaken.

>>48907101
I think being a fat ogre copycat with a uglier aesthetic to fit the goblin's starting zone theme is not what the goblin alchemists wanted

>>48907141
Importing workers is expensive and they can't rely on trolls for all their muscle.

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>>48907169
Hobgoblins are not workers, their only use is being bodyguards or your personal bank bitch.

They could've used ogres for that, like, you know, they used to fucking do.

Instead the art department of blizzard had a shitfit and wanted some snowflake ogre variant.

>>48907283
You think ogres are cheaper to import to an far away island?

Think like a goblin, not a player.

>>48907283
>industrial pizza cutter

Ogrimmar Style is objectively the best pizza

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>>48907283
Eh, I'd hardly call the giant, fat Jew look "snowflake ogre"

>>48907338
>Orgrimmar style
>not Silvermoon style

When you've had pizza come straight out of an Arcane-burning oven... mm. There's just nothing like it. Thin crust, olive oil, fresh ingredients, and magic.

>>48907383
Can't be worse than Zul'Aman style. The cheese is great but elf-fingers? C'mon, those don't go on a pizza and you know it.

>>48907338
>not based 'ge 'za

>>48907408
And don't even get me started on Ironforge Deep Dish. Don't get me wrong - hearty, thick sauce, great cheese, but you can never finish one in the right amount of time and either it gets cold or you get full.

>>48907448
>Crossboard shitposting

Go home /ck/, you're drunk.

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>>48907496
But I don't want to go

>>48907469
Plus the guys cooking it never wear beard nets.

>>48907408
I dunno, Tinkertown Experimental can get weird sometimes.

One time I found one rigged with a mind control device. To this day, I still sing that dumb song whenever I encounter a Naga.

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>>48907515

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>>48907625

>>48907621
I don't go there for the pizza. I go there for the gnome serving girls.

>>48907659
I'm okay with peanut butter and banana. I'm okay with deep fried peanut butter and banana.
But just the thought of mayonnaise and banana makes my stomach churn.

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>>48907515
>>48907625

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>>48907714
>>48907720
Just for you two.

Anyway, on the actual topic of WoW lore, some of the lore that legion is bringing seems fun. Aldrachi seemed pretty cool, shame they're all extinct.

>>48907741
Aldrachi? Was there a realm where they could only be truly killed, too?

>>48907757
No, they were just that badass.

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>>48907757
No, but it took Sargeras to actually kill their king so that's pretty fucking rad.

>>48907515
>>48907659
>>48907741
This is why you don't eat goblin cooking!

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>>48907775
>Goblin cooking
>No explosives

This is more like murloc cooking

>>48907772
I've seen Jack's cooking get posted a lot. Is he genuinely autistic or something? It's hard to imagine someone who does as much cooking shit as he does STAYING that utterly horrible at it.

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>>48907800
Don't know, but I consider myself an amateur chef and watching him is inspiration. To never cook like that.

So since we're on a /ck/ tangent, who's the best at each kind of dish in Azeroth?

I imagine Trolls are great at seafood, but Orcs are better with red meat.

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>>48907954
Perhaps it's due to them looking like goats and whatnot but I always imagined Draenei make some amazing bread.

>>48907954
Trolls do red meat better, being cannibals, Orcs do pork the best.

>>48907954
pandaren have spent 10000 years perfecting their cooking. They're probably best at most things

>>48907976
>goats
>being good at making bread
[desire to know more intensifies]

Take a movie scene and substitute in appropriate Warcraft characters.

>>Jaina: You know how I feel about this. They're animals.
>>Khadgar: There is an historic opportunity here.
>>Jaina: Don't believe them! Don't trust them!
>>Khadgar: They are dying.
>>Jaina: Let them die!

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>>48907515
It just gets more and more horrifying the longer it goes on. I couldn't finish watching it.

PLEASE tell me no one actually eats that!

>>48907954
>Orc
Roasts and barbecue
>Tauren
Game in general, pine and cornbread
>Troll (Darkspear)
Seafood
>Undead
N/A
>Blood Elf
Hipster/gimmicky food
>Goblin
Fast food bursting with calories
>Pandaren
Noodles
>Human
Lamb dishes, salads, cheese
>Dwarf
Hearty stews and soups, brewing
>Gnome
Molecular cuisine
>Night Elf
All natural non-GMO organic superfoods
>Draenei
Dumplings and hard candy
>Worgen
Yorkshire pudding, crown roast

>>48908067
Someone made it for someone to eat. Someone paid to eat this.

People like this are the reason everyone thinks all of us in Burgerland are insane.

We are, but it's the wrong reason to think that.

50 countries can only pretend to be one country for so long.

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>>48908049
I have a friend who raises goats and apparently they eat a shit ton of grain since I help him haul the stuff around at times.

>>48908091
>>Undead
>N/A
More like Fear Factor. Do the cooking dailies in Undercity.

>Pandaren
Pandaren love food so much that there are entire sub-skills to represent them.

>>48908112
goats have a reputation to be biological lawnmovers.

>>48908091
>Old Gods and/or their servants
>the less said about what condiments they prefer to put on souls, the better

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>>48908139
I know they eat everything, but I just connotate grains and goats after hauling heavy ass bags around for those cunts.

We use them to get rid of Kudzu as well.

>>48908154
>get rid of
>implying the Evergrowing Blight can be destroyed or even contained

Submit to your new lords. It will hurt less, in the end.

>>48908091
>>48908118
>Undead

>Some chefs complain that our beloved Undercity doesn't boast the ingredients to create truly fine fare.
>Such mewling little cretins. Delicious delights abound!
>Gather some of the rank, slimy Sewer Caps growing in Undercity's northwest sewer line and return them to me.

>These smell absolutely wretched. Perfect!

>>48908112
What in the nigger fuck christ was that black thing?

>>48908233
A fly, most likely.

>>48908233
you don't want to know.

>>48908064
>a real human bean, and a real hero
-Warden Stillwater

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>>48908064
Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey to the Dark Side of the Force shall be complete!

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>>48908064
It's got electrolytes!

>>48908327
It's what Botani crave.

If you where to make WoW 2 with only AU Draenor factions, what would they be and what are the divides?

>>48908502
Like the people on AU Dreanor itself? Easily the Horde vs Draenei all over again. Make the Arakkoa a neutral race with the ability to either befriend the shadow or the sun ones.
Everything else is just kill trash that do dick things like Saberon and Gronns. Have rising Ogre Kingdom be the big bads.

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>>48907515
It started bad and then it just got worse and worse...

>>48908589
I'd suggest botani somewhere in there, but I must face the fact that they're all pretty mindless.

>>48908502
Breakers vs Primals

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Which Warcraft race would be the most open to racemixing?

>>48908769
Elves. They're near humans and all the Windrunner sisters have been HUMANED at some point or another.

>>48908769
>>48908795
Don't Orcs have the highest number of named half-breeds, though?

>>48908769
orcs

>>48908769
Orcs so far. Half Dranei and Half ogres are already running around.

>>48908829
I think the question was 'open to', not necessarily how often it happens, meaning how accepted the offspring are. I'm pretty sure mok'nathal are outcasts when it comes to orcs and ogres like real life halfbreeds are.

>>48908860
>outcasts when it comes to orcs and ogres like real life halfbreeds are.
When the fuck did real life half breeds become outcasts? We elected one president.

>>48908902
Politics is a different game. I'm mixed and both sides of your family treat you very differently, even contradictory at times.

>>48908902
And his hair's grey twenty years early.

Being Obama is suffering.

>>48908860
>Leoroxx, Rexxar's father, states that "being born a half-breed does not make you Mok'Nathal"

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>Devote your life to TEH LIGHT

>Defeat Arthas the Lich King

>Die after BBQed by Gul'dan despite begging The Light to save you

>Get turned into a DK, the very thing you spent your life fighting

Why is The Light such an asshole /tg/?

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>>48908931
It's a stressful job no matter who you are.
And you can't say or do anything without some pundits intentionally misrepresenting it and saying you're a disgrace to America.

>>48908964
Didn't the DKs fail to resurrect him?

>>48908986
Dat holy ground.

>>48908964
Because the light is retarded
>forsake arthas when he was purging stratholmes

>>48908964
>>Light...grant me this final blessing...to shatter these bonds!
It was in WoTLK. Still a better fate than the last two wielders of the Ashbringer.

>>48908964
>Tirion: Light, grant me one final blessing! Give me the strength to shatter these bonds!
>Light: Sure, man.
>Tirion: The Light will protect me!
>Light: Dude, we had an agreement. That was the last time!

>>48908971
>Clinton looks aged normally
>Obama looks like he's just stoned and really tired
>Bush looks like he has an aging curse on him
knowing the secrets behind 9/11 is one hell of a drug

>>48908964
>ask the Light for one final blessing
>it doesn't give you more blessings
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>48909006
>implying the Light didn't think there was another way to cure/save them

The Light is merciful, and it is kind. It is only swift to judge that which is irredeemably evil.

Had he only destroyed those who had already turned, the Light would have been with him.

>>48909042
>>48909006
I thought that Arthas was the one who lost his faith, not the Light forsaking him. He did what he thought was right but couldn't stomach the slaughter of innocents. It's the same reason why the Scarlet Crusade, an evil organization that feels like they're doing good, can still wield the Light. It's all about conviction, and Arthas' faith wavered.

>>48909077
That's really what it was. Arthas is a Paladin falling due to his own failings of faith.

>>48909042
>>implying the Light didn't think there was another way to cure/save them

There is no cure to undeath but death itself.

The citizens would become mindless zombies in the next hours after the purge began.

>>48909077
>>48909042
I think the Light was kinda odd at times with it's actions, like it's a force that relies on your own belief, not in the Light itself, but of yourself. So in a way, the most self deluded person who believes that they are the greatest thing to walk the planet would make for a rather powerful Light user.

Which is off set by the rules that the Light seems to preach with that three rule from way back when; Tenacity, Respect and Compassion.

Rather liked the Light as a lore thing just being a different colored version of magic to be honest. Like purple= Arcane, light green= Nature, red=Fire, blue=Frost, black/purple/green=Fel infused shit and so on. Made the whole theme of the reality Azeroth lived in was just bursting with energy ready to be tapped into, hopefully the mortals wouldn't try to kill themselves.

Hypothetical Question Anons; You've been jerked into the Warcraft Universe; it's about five years or so before the Purge begins with Stratholme, you wake in the woods in Silverpine Woods. What do you do to not be anally devastated?

>>48909528
Head south. Crash in Khaz Modan.

>>48909528
There's nothing I can do.

I don't even have the will to thrive here, there'd be no surviving in Azeroth.

>>48909528
Move to Ironforge, preferably somewhere furthest away from the high seat, and then hang out for the next decade. Nothing attacks there, and if I live away from the PvP central that would be the throne room, I'll be fine.

>>48909528
I doubt the Light itself preaches those virtues. That's the humans interpretations of the Light.

So long as you believe what you are doing is right then the Light will empower you. Turalyon found his faith again when the orcs said they were not of Azeroth, Arthas lost his during the Cull, it's all about feeling right in your actions.

>>48909528
Find a serviceable weapon and figure out how to use it, then see what, if any forces will grant me power.

Failing that, join a church and expect the worst.

>>48909528
Become incredibly famous for discovering a whole other continue a few weeks west

>>48909770
or going southwest

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>>48909528
Go seek out Uther and join the Silver Hand. When Arthas tries to cull Stratholme, I'll stab him in his fucking throat.

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>>48909528
shoot Kel'Thuzad
corner the wheat price fixing market
introduce Noh theater to the masses

>>48909528

Find Kel'thuzad, become an acolyte, wait until Arthas merges with LK, and use my future knowledge to help him not be a fucking retard.

Scourge pride worldwide!

>>48909881
no no no just make sure Arthas's horse stays alive

>>48909528
>Five Years Before the Culling of Stratholme.
Move on down to Loch Modan as quickly as possible. Claim to be a prophet, inform the Alliance of what's coming their way as best I can so they can put together a nice Seal Team 6 to deal with shit.

Definitely make the Gnomes aware of Thermoplugg so he can get got ahead of time. Probably alert the Elves of what is going to happen, because preventing the loss of the Sunwell really hampers Kel'Thuzad from being able to bring in Archimonde.

Get a job working as a papers guy for the Explorer's League, so I can inform people of what they'll be facing but still give them the full thrill of enjoying what's coming their way.

Maybe if I can learn magic, learn magic and find a path to immortality.

Worst case scenario, shack up with the Legion tell them how everything is going to go; get infinite demonic powers and go hang out in space as the one demon guy who allowed Sargeras to fuck his loli-earth soul waifu to death. I mean, the guy is a huge asshole but if you're gonna be a chump who dies for the Legion or the guy who lets the head of the Legion achieve his dreams; I'd go for the second. Especially if I can have a demon harem and I don't have to get involved in doing any greater evils than what I've already done.

Maybe make it clear that the proper way to win over Azeroth is to explain that the Titans are dead and that we need to join his army to destroy the Void Lords. Offer up proof of that.

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>>48909881
Daily reminder Arthas did nothing wrong. Strat was necessary.

>>48910309
Arthas held the Scourge in check but he's still in the pain dimension and Sylvanas managed to get free to become Warchief.

>>48910621
Wait for the resurrection you know is coming. Once and future king and all that.

>>48910689
wait is Arthas coming back?

>>48910704
No.

>>48910689
I honestly hope he comes back, even if it's just as a spirit of Arthas that once was telling Jaina to calm down just a little bit. I'm a big fluff guy so I like things like that.

>>48910716
I'd be really excited for it, more than Illidan in anycase. Hell the pieces are there if Kel decides he wants his bro back because Boliver is so dull.

Still I suspect it may be because I played WC3 so often when I was a kid.

>>48910749
I honestly think a lot of old heroes and raid bosses will be back. Legion feels like an apology expansion after the mess that was Warlords.

>>48910704
Yes.

>>48910689
An karanir thanagor. Mor ok angalor. Mor ok gorum pala uh'm, ravali ah'm.

We all know we'll hear those words again soon. Not in fear, but in triumph.

>>48910704
Maybe, I don't know.

>>48910749
God I really want Kel'Thuzad to show up. He wouldn't work well as the leader of the Forsaken though, given he shit in the Sunwell and caused the whole Blood Elf thing.

Maybe a Kel'Thuzad working in a shitty Putrice type situation where the Undercity is under lock and key by the Blood Elves (who are the most upset about all of this) and KT is able to prove himself as a capable leader by being free from the command of the Lich King and the Legion. Build some bridges back.

Plus a great reason to keep up faction conflict with Genn.

KT: "I did not kill your son, Greymane."
Genn: "Well you bloody well killed everyone else!"

>>48910784
Quite looking forward to it to be honest. Just hope he comes back with the wit rather than the retard he turned into with Ner'Zul.

It bother's me that Mal'Gannis is back too, the ending of the campaign was great with Mal'Gannis dead but Arthas sacrificing everything up to an including his principles and humanity before becoming something worse than Mal'Gannis. Now it's just a case of what was the fucking point?

It feels like it lost a lot of its significance.

>>48910841
Just shows how worthless Arthas really was.

>>48910841
>Now it's just a case of what was the fucking point?
ask Mal'ganis when we fight him in Siege of the Ruins of Theramore

Excuse the slight /pol/, but it's too funny.
>be Moira;
>have daddy issues;
>fall in love with a dark skinned dude that tells her he loves and respects her, baby;
>get knocked up with mixed kid;
>get back to Ironforge and start being a spokeswoman for the interests of your son's clan;
Fuck it, i'd still be disappointed in the bitch if i was her dad.

>>48906671
Night elf Paladins make more sense than Sun Druids and other recent class combos.

>>48912150
>Excuse the slight /pol/,
Blizzard brought it on themselves when they made the black version of every race evil

>>48912178
#darklivesmatter.

>>48912178
What about trolls and elves?

>>48912307
there are no black trolls and the Nightbourne are evil

>>48912319
Dark trolls

The trolls that were in WC3 and removed in WoW for reasons unknown, who assisted at the battle for mt Hyjal and were probably the ancestors to night elves

>>48911305
I don't know if he was worthless so much as felt he always had to try and measure up to Uther and his father, and never felt anything he did was good enough.

Then you have the campaign where things get progressively shitter and Uther only shows up to then basically say what a shit leader Arthas was and how lucky he is Uther decided to show up.

Not that he's wrong, but he could have phrased it better considering he's had years to know what Arthas is like and knowing that he's been fighting off an undead assault for several days by that point.

All of which culminated with the events at Stratholme, which combined with Jaina pulling out, lead to Arthas eventually going fuck it and going full Death Knight.

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Your main goes back to the war of the ancients through the caverns of time.

They're assigned to stay in deep cover.

They're given a night elf disguise for the duration.

What is your characters cover identity (and their real identity) and how do they manage?

>>48912529
>frost DK
I'm just a really tough mage, nothing to see here

>>48912529
>Forsaken Brewmaster

h-hey kids want some saronite dust?

>>48912564

Not a warrior?

>>48912712
well I figure the magical scythes and enveloping myself in the icy winds of Northrend would be more conspicuous than hitting things good

>>48909094
Except that didn't happen. Arthas didn't lose his paladin abilities after the culling, and he never lost conviction.

He kept on paladining while murdering mercenaries, lying to his men and letting Muradin get killed.

Even after taking Frostmourne, he keeps his paladin abilities for a little while.

>They're given a night elf disguise for the duration.

FETISHFAGS GO BACK TO /D/ PLEASE

JUST LEAVE

FUCK OFF

>>48912529
>gnome fire mage

I guess he just pretends to be a really clumsy mage

Because going from 3 feet tall to 8.5 feet tall instantly has got to fuck with your coordination

>>48912796
that's what happens in the CoT Well of Eternity instance though...

>>48912824

it's still a fetish

back to /d/ with you

>>48912813

get another gobbo and ride on their shoulders

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>>48912973
People complaining about fetishes is my fetish.

So The Light willingly allows Scarlet Crusaders, and Forsaken Priests to use its Holy Powers but witholds it from Broken Draenei? What a shitty God.

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>>48912824
What happens in the CoT Well of Eternity stays in the Well of Eternity.

>>48913270
no uggos allowed

>>48913289

Wait are you saying a dungeon party go in there and then just get lewd in their nelf disguises?

...I'm okay with this.

>>48913270
Broken draenei believe themselves to be broken

This is why they can not use the light

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>>48907515
No more!

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>>48913320
You never know, in your last moments on a world that is getting invaded by demons, lewding it up with other night elves doesn't seem so bad.

>>48910309
This.

Arthas literally did nothing wrong.

Stratholme was a degenerate cesspit that needed purge.

He is the only one keeping the scourge in check and the only one who can fight the (((legion))).

Fordring is controlled opposition and Wrynn is a legion puppet.

Lordaeron is Human!
One Kingdom, One People, One King!
Hail Arthas!
14/88

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>>48908064
>Varian: Master Taran Zhu, I'm Alliance.
>Bain: he wasn't alone
>Varian: uh, you don't get to bring friends
>Bain: they are not my friends
>Varian: and why would I want them?
>Bain: they were trying to grab your bell, they work for the warchief, the ork-man.
>Varian: Garrosh?
>Baine: aye
>Varian: alright, bring him to the court, I'll call it in!

>>48913362
if you lose against the Queen Azshara fight she mind controls you into a sex slave

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>>48913386
Fuck Arthas!

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Are you ready For WoWDrow this 30th /tg/?

>>48913450
the Nightbourne bosses in the Nighthold all look fun as fuck, hopefully everything else about them is as good

>>48913415
>>48913362

>bronze dragons tell you to go back to well of eternity
>get cute nelf disguise
>kinda awkward at first but you get used to it
>fight your way through demons and other crap
>reach Azshara
>confront her over the demon soul
>she smirks and stares you deep in the eyes
>suddenly you find you love and adore her beyond everything else
>no more interest in the mission or anything else
>you just want to please the light of lights
>start to strip out of your armor with a content grin

>>48913450
Will they worship spiders? Use spider mounts? Have half-spider hybrids? Be matriarchal?

Already they have no red eyes.... Also skin color should be more black.

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>>48913489
And where is a write-fag when you need one.

>>48913528
Drunk, even though it's morning.

>>48913528
Carpal Tunnel is hitting hard this morning.

>>48913528

TG or no TG?

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>>48913576
I'll give you something hard to hit.

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>>48913528
Being Forsaken is fun! Don't you want to have beach parties with Our Lady? Death isn't the end, it's just the beginning of eternal service to Sylvanas of fun times! Bungee jumping without a rope, magician's tricks without the tricks, Russian roulette and more! #SylvanasForWarchief2016

>>48913591
TG

So what about Anduin being an old manand still wearing the same clothes at the end of all things? What do you expect him to fight? Will the rest of us be with him?

Will the Forsaken be the same?
oh god being immortal sucks why do we still have to work with others

>>48913528

FETISHFAGS LEAVE

>>48913492

NotDriders are in the expansion IIRC

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>>48913639

>will the Forsaken be the same in far future?

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>>48913432
>>48913600
>>48913615

Fucking Sylvfag CTRs. Arthas is the future. We are going to build a super huge ziggurat and the Horde is paying for it.
#MakeEasternKingdomsGreatAgain
#UndeadForPlayableFaction2016
#ArthasForEverKing

>>48913617

Alliance or Horde

and to you or anyone else interested, any particular race/class characters you'd want to see?

Please chime in now with any opinions.

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>>48913734
>pauldrons THAT tiny

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>>48913803

Can someone make a warcraft version?

>>48909528
Ironforge.

That fortress goes so deep that all three dwarven clans can hide in the damn thing for years. I'm moving there and becoming a blacksmith.

>>48913744
human or orc warrior preferably, for the full lesbian emasculation

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>>48912334
Considering zandalar trolls use the nelf skeleton and are described as more or less troll-elves, Blizz probably did some retconning as to who got got mutated into nelves.

>>48913998
These crystal saytrs from legion too?

>>48914035
WotLK, Crystalsong Forest

>>48913998
Fucking driders now? No. The Broken Isles are getting BTFO. They can save themselves, I'm not showing up.

>>48913998
>drow varguls
has corruption gone too far?

>>48908091
>Troll
Troll.

>>48913998
>elven crypt fiends

Will they ever make unique skeletons again ?

>>48908964
Tirion is a retard so I can't muster much sympathy for him.

>MUH HONOR

>>48913998
Say what you will about wow but the writing is definitely taking a dive if they are just straight up adding Driders now,

>>48913998

The new big storybook postdates the Zandalari model updates and says NE's were descended from Dark Trolls.

>>48914183
So...what, they forgot how to walk upright and needed a giant well of magic to remember how?

>>48914211

You should ask how all non-zandalari trolls forgot their posture. The well addiction only happened to those dark trolls that turned into Night Elves.

>>48914211
They're still dumbshit trolls, so yeah.

>>48914211
We don't actually know what the Dark Trolls really looked like. But a lot of troll sub-species are degenerate versions of Zandalari.

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>>48914138

Why is this so unexpected? They put Beholders into the game and proceeded to forget about them. I'm amazed they haven't ripped off more stuff from D&D at this point.

>>48914309
they're a damage cooldown for demolocks now

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>tfw fel Kilrogg didn't get demony enough to end up in the Nether when we killed him

>>bronze dragons tell you to go back to well of eternity
>>get cute nelf disguise
>>kinda awkward at first but you get used to it
>>fight your way through demons and other crap
>>reach Azshara
>>confront her over the demon soul
>>she smirks and stares you deep in the eyes
>>suddenly you find you love and adore her beyond everything else
>>no more interest in the mission or anything else
>>you just want to please the light of lights
>>start to strip out of your armor with a content grin

MORE

>>48914370
>Green kool-aid made him grow an extra beard-skull

>>48914640
that's what happens when you drink expired pit lord blood. Why do you think the draenic fel orcs are all grey?

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>>tfw Varien is gone

>>48914697
How can we ever find a big enough chin to replace him?

>>48914719
We never will.

>>48914719
Is Deathwing's corpse still lying around?

>>48914795
Thrall used it to plate his balls to mate with Agra.

>>48914292
>>48914211

All non-zandalari trolls are descendants of lower caste trolls that said "fuck this caste shit, we make our own empires, with mojo and hokers" and left.
Because of that they were not as close to most of their gods who lived in and around zandalar.

Makes sense that they are less magical charged, which could have changed them.
Or they adapted to the conditions in the massive forests at their time.

>>48913998
>Driders
Aw FUCK yeah!

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>>48914697
He was the best of us all. May he rest by the Emperor's right hand, as his true warrior.

>>48915358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THVYI-PyIag
>>tfw Varien died a true heroes death
>>tafw Vol'jin was thrown in a ditch

>>48915390
To be fair, I'm about 90% certain Blizz is using his death as a platform from whichto launch his mew story arc. I mean, death for a troll is about as ssignificant as Sylvanas dying at this point. It's just a notch to add to their belt.Darkspear nevah die, mon. And Bwonsamdi even said back in SoO that Vol'jin will die soon. Mark my words, we've not seen the last of our late Warchief.

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>>48915390
>Vol'Jin
>"They are coming from behind!"
>gets shanked by a trash mob in the front.
>dies
Truly, the most worthless warchief.

>>48915521
It fits seeing as the majority of the cutscene is about Varien. Vol'jin wasn't interesting enough to warrent time past a stabbing.

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>>48915558
Nah it's typical Blizz human bias. Ooh look at me, I'm a human, I have four fingers and thumbs, allowing me to use tools and I can communicate even complicated concepts with my fellow humans. Big whoop! Trolls get 10% regeneration.

>>48915817
Vol'jin was Warchief but did nothing beyond promote your character. No emotion was felt during his death aside from annoyance.

>>48915521
Poor Vol'jin

Given the title of warchief, but never given a chance to do anything with it

He really got the shaft didn't he? I wonder why the writing staff hated him so much?

>>48915922
People had trouble understanding his accent.

>>48915922
His accent was the only thing interesting thing about him.

>>48915936
Really? THAT was hard to understand? Step it up
https://youtu.be/brWB8ivjjJA?t=10s

>>48913489
YOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>48914331
It's also the only warlock pet that can actually explain what the hell that tome that starts that chain to get green fire is.

Horde are literal dindus.

>Tfw I could have killed Gul'dan in WoD but I didn't (thanks Khadgar)

>Tfw my character is responsible for the death of Tirion, Varian and Vol'jin as well as countless others

>Tfw I didn't die a hero so I ended up living long enough to be the villain.

>>48916535
>>Vol'jin
>>literally nobody claps

>>48912529
>lowbie Tauren Monk disguised as a NElf drood

This won't end well.

>>48913492
I heard that one of this expansion's money sinks is a spider mount.

>>48916974
I thought the black market thing was a money sink

>>48916974
Yep. 2 Million gold, from a vendor that appears at random.

>>48916996
The Black market will still exist, now at the Dalaran Sewers/Underground.

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>tfw no idea what to do with the week and some odd days until release

I suppose I can power level my warlock since she's 91, but fuck these invasions and all the instant death I have to deal with.

>shit hitting me for 100k+ damage
>40k health

>>48917526
I'm just levelling up my pirate. I'm hoping I can win the STV tournment since the Salty title is the best thing I can get for him alongside that heirloom ring.

>>48917554
Are you a pleb? You need to get Bloodsail Admiral. Though my panda rogue loses a lot of his luster when I can't have a piratical coat and a dark hat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opKwsJfvG-E

>>48912319
The Nightborne are more desperate than evil. There's even a rebellious faction aiding players in Legion.

>>48916996
I've had the black market vendor in my garrison for ages but she never has anything for sale.
What is supposed to be there?

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>>48917554
I might make a caster alt to fuck with but I dunno which kind.

Are druids locked into chickenbear form for casting or is there still a way to appear humanoid?

>>48917674
Considering that they literally can't survive without turning into zombies without the nightwell's energy, and the ones controlling the supply are power-tripping maniacs...

>>48917899
what the fuck is it with elves just being general fuckups in WoW? Can they do anything right?

>>48917802
The Garrison one just listed what was available that day, you still had to fly to Nagrand to buy things. And the BMAH was temporarily closed when 7.0 was launched, it should be back when Legion launches.

>>48917914
That's what you get for being trapped in a city with a corrupted font of energy

>>48915390
I wish the way it ended was instead that Vol'jin's half-dead body is dragged next to Varian, and instead of just Varian saying, "For the Alliance," they both say in unison, "For Azeroth," and are both cinematically disintegrated by Gul'dan.

>>48917933
No. fuck you. Make the alliance great again.

>>48916884

Well at least droods were predominantly male so you have that excuse

>>48917899
>Considering that they literally can't survive without turning into zombies without the nightwell's energy
Yes, desperate.

>and the ones controlling the supply are power-tripping maniacs...
They didn't seem particularly insane or power-tripping in the comic in which they were introduced.

>>48917953
Screw that. The Alliance has always been greater, in its resources and population numbers, than the Horde.

So, wonder what someone who's only contact with warcraft lore is orcs vs humans, would say, when they found out about all the ancient aliens who are connected to magic(which is math, actually, in-universe) the last of whom is the genius locci of the world the game is set in, time travel, alternative dimensions, elves(which are mutant trolls) being divided into magical crackheads and treehuggers+all the mythological creatures being the degenerate derivatives of those+all the magical mutation and speciation, the alien world the orcs come from, the satanic crusade of irradiated demon aliens, the apexis civilisation, the singing windchimes that derive from the cosmic primal energy that was God in warcraft 1, which is in direct relationship with something that creates horrible lovecraftian beings, etc.

>>48918506
Honestly, I kind of doubt such a person exists.

>>48917890
There's still a glyph
>hating moonkin form
stay away from my class pleb

>>48918541
thought experiment.
And there are circumstance in someone's life which can cut him off from a previous passion, so he's off the loop.
Even Bush was a vanilla wow player, but had to say goodbye to his guild when he became president.

Did they completely remove glyphs? What's replacing them?

>>48918667
>Even Bush was a vanilla wow player, but had to say goodbye to his guild when he became president.
Now I know that's bullshit, because WoW came out in 2004, and Bush became President in 2001.

>>48918667
>Bush was a Vanilla WoW Player.
Seriously?
I mean, I can see that.

>>48918691
Almost completely and nothing.

>>48917625
My pirate is his own man. He don't take orders from scallywags like them Bloodsail dogs. Salty Stolzbecker will plunder than booty all on his own.

>>48918506
I actually have something relevant. My uncle played orcs vs humans and loved it. Didn't really play anything after that. He recently found out about watercraft 3 and tried it. He still liked OvH better. He played a little vanilla wow but only to level 20 or so. I told him about all the retcons and some of the lore now and he just kinda stared at me with a concerned look and said nothing beats the original.

>>48918692
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2004

>>48918691
Cosmetic glyphs still exist, and you can have as many as you want instead of just three total. Though only one per spell.

Major glyphs got removed entirely, but you get an artifact talent tree in Legion to sort of replace them.

>>48918775
in the immortal words of 1d4chan:
>where time traveling immortal dragons are fighting with bugs created in the image of space bugs by an ancient deity while dimension-faring demon look-a-likes are furious that space-faring blood elves stole a creature of positive energy and are channeling its powers so that they can become paladins and so on and so on.

>>48918775
>He still liked OvH better

You found it. The man who claims OvH is better lore-wise than ToD. The chain is complete.

>>48917636
Fuck you, I just spent 2 hours watching blacksmiths make fantasy weapons because of this.

>>48919493
have some DOOMHAMMER bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNORIg5FWAg

Goddamn Varian last stand is awesome. Shir gave me chills again as I did the Broken shore scenario.

Also,

>Azeroth is a Titan
Say what?

>>48920390
>Say what?
Cocaine.

>>48920390
Why did you think everyone wants it so badly?

>>48920390
Everyone wants to rape the female titan baby

>>48920390
>Say what?

Some planets are Titan eggs. Azeroth is one.

>>48920559
IT'S AWWWWWRIGHT.

>>48920390
Basically, all the titans were born from various planets. Not all planets are titan-fetuses, but Azeroth is, which is why the Titans went to such effort protecting it, and why the legion trys so hard to conquer it.

>>48918691
major glyphs got removed, and Blizzard replaced them with a retarded talent system that depends on inscription so the profession wouldn't be useless

>>48920785
>Not all planets are titan-fetuses,
and when the titans find a planet without a babby titan inside, they turn it into a death world for fun

>>48921889
Like Draenor?

>>48921987
yeah. The Breakers v. Primals war was all them

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WE

>>48922074
GONNA

>>48922127
FUCK

>>48920390
>Goddamn Varian last stand is awesome.
Yet Vol'jin last stand was.... there was no Vol'jin last stand. I find it highly unjust. Varian was human king since.... WotLK? And he went down as a badass. Zul'jin was a warchief since the end of MoP, he did nothing in WoD (same as Varian) and went down like a noob.

>>48922152
Vol'jin never earned the mantle. He went down as he deserved.

Varian went through a lot and earned the Alliance's respect.

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>>48910309
>tfw the DK quests were the best quests, but then you just got shoved into choos da hord or da alliance instead of just annihilating both with spooky scary skellington dragons

>>48922263
m-muh light

>>48922263
>>tfw playing intro sequence for ten hours and death knight just isn't funt

>>48922196
He took down Garrosh, that was something.
Also being the most level headed leader of Horde factions.

>>48922332
death knights won't be fun until 110 because having haste passives doesn't fit the class fantasy so they have to be shit until they get current content raid gear

>>48922263
>tfw harvesting human skulls for delicious dk cola

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>>48922420
>>48922263
>mfw slaughtering for my Eternal King

>>48922565
>tfw Tirion ruins it like everything else

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THEY'RE.......BEASTS!

>>48923716
Why do the humans look more goofy than the orcs?

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>>48923716
You got that right, mate.

>>48923784

Welcome to Warcraft.

>>48923784
Because wow armor on an actual human is goofy as fuck

>>48923784
because WoW humans are mutated robot vikings and irl humans are... human

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>>48923716

BE FEL OR BE FUEL!

>>48923911
Growth stunted mutated enchanted metal vikings, if you wanna be technical.

>>48923940
I still can't believe they cut out fucking Ner'zhul and made Gul'dank some fucking snowflake warlock

>>48923989
Gul'dan had long leading the Horde from behind the throne by the time they entered Azeroth. Ner'zhul was some has-been moping in his village in Shadowmoon Valley.

>>48923940

They should have used that voice actor to do WoW Gul'dan. WoW Gul'dan sounds so cartoonish.

>>48923989
They have been trying to bury ner'zhul ever since wotlk and the only reason he even was in wod was because the outcry would be too bad if they didn't include him.

>>48924181
Ner'zhul started the Horde

>>48924599
Yeah, and he was basically irrelevant by the time the orcs drank the Mountain Dew.

>>48924216
He sounds fine though most of his dialogue takes two hours to complete.

>>48924217
Well they need to try harder if that's what they're doing, Cus I could swear you have a 2v1 cage match against him and what's left of Arthas in Legion.

>>48924217
>AU Gul'dan was never an apprentice to Ner'zhul or from Shadowmoon clan
>Instead, he was a literally fucking special snowflake cripple of some village "no one living knows of", and got abandoned by everyone but the Legion in his most desperate time

>>48924697
I'm surprised they even bothered considering they made wotlk feel like you were against arthas the lich king and not the lich king.

Fucking hated everything about arthas supressing ner'zhul

>>48924732
And Ner'zhul gets booted down to instance boss and is acting against his wife

>>48924732
Gul'dan was the worst Harbinger episode. It stressed the 'village' part for no reason to the point where it sounded try hard.

>>48925213
Gotta establish how evil our already established evil warlock is!

>>48925520
Bitch can't even make death knights, he ain't no evil, he a faker

>>48925757
nigga has burning legion! he does not need death knights!

>>48925774
>Not using your enemy's warriors against them like some walking head-on-a-spike
>Atomizing the Stormwind's king instead of making him a puppet
This ain't no evil, this a pussy with strong friends

>>48909042
well met

>>48914465
>that one guy in the party who doesn't get mind-controlled 'cuz he was AFK and staring at the sky

How ruined is the moment?

>>48913489
oh yes I know exactly why I have this boner

>>48927290
>>48927290
>>48927290
>>48927290

New thread.